Jalen Rose: "Kwame Brown Is NOT A Scrub"

[WillyJakk]

Wow...

Jalen Rose is just ugh... used to kinda like the guy but to say Kwame Brown (among others) IS NOT A SCRUB is ridiculous, simply because he's fortunate enough to have lasted 10 yrs and be one of the 450 guys to be employed by the NBA (currently).

Does he have a point?

[Bballfinest]

Watching Stephen A. blow up Jalen right now!

[UtahJazzFan88]

Kwame is definitely a scrub in comparison of 450-500 ballers (including guys trying to make it from the D-League) in the league.

[iDunk]

He really isn't though, he's a serviceable role player. I'd love to have him back Chandler up.

It was Jordan's fault for picking him #1 not Kwame's. He's had a solid career, just not the one everyone visioned he would.

[mjokc]

Kwame is a bust, not a scrub. SMH @ people who don't know the difference.

[Tenchi Ryu]

He really isn't though, he's a serviceable role player.


This is Rose's argument.

[BarberSchool]

Just one more in the plethora of reasons as to why Jalen Rose should be humiliated for the moron he is live on air and subsequently fired. It's almost like ESPN execs secretly are putting him out there just to annoy us.

[BarberSchool]

Kwame is a bust, not a scrub. SMH @ people who don't know the difference.You have a point, but still......f#@k Jalen Rose with an aids-infected d!ldo.

[boozehound]

dude is not a scrub. is he a bust? sure. but hes an effective rotation player everywhere he has been. hes not scal or cardinal or diop. does his game have holes? sure.

[bagelred]

Kwame is a bust, not a scrub. SMH @ people who don't know the difference.

exactly

[Tenchi Ryu]

Jalen does have a point on how Scrub being used as a intentional slander can be wrong, and I can see his point as saying Kwame is not a scrub. He might not have lived up to expectations, but the guy is in the NBA for some apparent reason, and attacking their character is too far.

[scm5]

kwame is not a scrub.

his tenure in LA reminds me of a current player we have right now.

Metta. (Not Ron Artest, I'm talking about since he's changed his name to Metta)

Metta has good games and he has horrible games, but one thing remains solid... his defense.

[JM720]

Watching Stephen A. Coon blow up Jalen right now!

Please write out his full name.

[mattvNJ]

spotty on O, solid D most of the time... Scrub no. I agree with him. He's serviceable to any team thats need a solid defensive presence off the bench. Being drafter #1 and by MJ especially ****ed him up mentally. Hype can make or break a player.

[Fiasco]

Kwame Brown is overrated even as a role player. The man lives to collect fouls. "Defensive presence"? Are you people ****ing serious?

[WillyJakk]

Kwame Brown is overrated even as a role player. The man lives to collect fouls. "Defensive presence"? Are you people ****ing serious?

This personally would be my description of him.

I'm truly trying to understand if peeps are serious or what cause when GS signed Kwame this season, all you saw was "OMG Kwame Brown! Why'd they sign him?! $7M!!!???"

Now he's a good role player.

[scm5]

Kwame Brown is overrated even as a role player. The man lives to collect fouls. "Defensive presence"? Are you people ****ing serious?

He can't be overrated when no one even pays attention to him.

Kwame's defense isn't like DeAndre Jordan's. He's not a help defender, he's a man-defender. The only thing is, there aren't many C's in the league that need to be stopped.

[ihatetimthomas]

This personally would be my description of him.

I'm truly trying to understand if peeps are serious or what cause when GS signed Kwame this season, all you saw was "OMG Kwame Brown! Why'd they sign him?! $7M!!!???"

Now he's a good role player.

I knew they had something up their sleeves when signing him. I think they really wanted the flexibility of using him in a trade. 7 mil expiring contract.

[Reverend Hoops]

Jalen does have a point on how Scrub being used as a intentional slander can be wrong, and I can see his point as saying Kwame is not a scrub. He might not have lived up to expectations, but the guy is in the NBA for some apparent reason, and attacking their character is too far.

By that standard how can you call anyone in the NBA a scrub?

[Tenchi Ryu]

By that standard how can you call anyone in the NBA a scrub?
That was Jalen's point.

[GOBB]

This personally would be my description of him.

I'm truly trying to understand if peeps are serious or what cause when GS signed Kwame this season, all you saw was "OMG Kwame Brown! Why'd they sign him?! $7M!!!???"

Now he's a good role player.

No the reaction was why did they sign Kwame Brown for $7mil. Not so much why did they sign him. Had he signed for half of the $7mil? There wouldnt be much OMG Kwame Brown? Why'd they sign him?!.

You're mentioning the reaction of Kwame being overpaid. Not the reaction of why any team would sign Kwame Brown. Whats not to understand about this?

[hawkfan]

Kwame getting so many minutes over his career is proof of how weak the center position has become.

No way he shoud have started last season for Charlotte and gotten 7 million from Golden State.

[WillyJakk]

No the reaction was why did they sign Kwame Brown for $7mil. Not so much why did they sign him. Had he signed for half of the $7mil? There wouldnt be much OMG Kwame Brown? Why'd they sign him?!.

You're mentioning the reaction of Kwame being overpaid. Not the reaction of why any team would sign Kwame Brown. Whats not to understand about this?

I think if you really look deep w/ in your own post you'd understand the direct correlation in the reaction of people to signing Kwame Brown, a scrub to a $7M contract.

You go on to mention "Had he signed for half of the $7mil? There wouldnt be much OMG Kwame Brown? Why'd they sign him?!".

Now let that sink in and think about it... the reaction was because GS signed a scrub to an inflated contract, they overpaid for him.

[GOBB]

I think if you really look deep w/ in your own post you'd understand the direct correlation in the reaction of people to signing Kwame Brown, a scrub to a $7M contract.

You go on to mention "Had he signed for half of the $7mil? There wouldnt be much OMG Kwame Brown? Why'd they sign him?!".

Now let that sink in and think about it... the reaction was because GS signed a scrub to an inflated contract, they overpaid for him.

How can you tell people what they meant by their posts? You cant.

You feel he is a scrub? Fine, not everyone feels that way.

[WillyJakk]

How can you tell people what they meant by their posts? You cant.

You feel he is a scrub? Fine, not everyone feels that way.

Nice to see we're back on speaking terms!

:coleman:

[Rooster]

Kwame Brown is overrated even as a role player. The man lives to collect fouls. "Defensive presence"? Are you people ****ing serious?


Yes he is. He get confused on rotating on the weakside, not good as a help defender but as far as his one on one defense, he is solid. He is a very good on ball defender per se.

[DKLaker]

Kwame Brown is overrated even as a role player. The man lives to collect fouls. "Defensive presence"? Are you people ****ing serious?

:applause: :applause: :applause:

The guy sucks b@lls and isn't worth talking about!!!!
Geez....even suk @ss Luke Walton still has a job :oldlol:
Sometimes it's just who you know.

[Eric Cartman]

While i understand the argument people make saying that only "450" players are on an NBA roster that means that anyone that makes it is NOT a scrub, i disagree because the terminology with big men can be confusing. Some of these bench warmers/scrub big men are in the league just because of their size, not because they are skilled in the game of basketball. So while i disagree with both counts that Kwame is a scrub, and that are plenty of centers who are scrubs in the league as of today.

[Richesly]

Well, people on youtube videos say the following,


"no worst player next too scalabrine"


Kwame was playing pretty good on the Warriors... and helped Bobcat's defense out a lot.

Kwame would probably be the best player on the Bobcats right now.

[StroShow4]

Kwame is a bust, not a scrub. SMH @ people who don't know the difference.

Bingo. Kwame is a serviceable big man. He plays excellent man defense in the post. He's limited as hell and you'd rather not have him starting, but he can be a useful role player off the bench.

[White Mamba]

jalen rose is in denial:coleman:

[bagelred]

jalen rose is in denial:coleman:

No, you just can't accept the fact sometimes players are just average. Not everyone is great or a scrub. Most guys in the league are just average. He's average.

[MMM]

I would take him on the Celtics

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Kwame is a bust, not a scrub. SMH @ people who don't know the difference.
:applause:

[AAckley1]

If Kwame Brown is a scrub, then 85% of players over 7 ft. are scrubs.

[CLTHornets4eva]

No, you just can't accept the fact sometimes players are just average. Not everyone is great or a scrub. Most guys in the league are just average. He's average.

Exactly. People think he's a scrub because he was a number 1 overall pick and never lived up to the expectations. But he is a solid above replacement big.

[miller-time]

its just too bad that he has become a journeyman. his career would look better if he managed to stay on just 2 or 3 teams.

[AAckley1]

its just too bad that he has become a journeyman. his career would look better if he managed to stay on just 2 or 3 teams.

He's a journeyman because he has an amazing agent who continuously gets his client over-valued contracts which in turn results in him being thrown into trades to make the dollars match.

[magic chiongson]

He can't be overrated when no one even pays attention to him.

Kwame's defense isn't like DeAndre Jordan's. He's not a help defender, he's a man-defender. The only thing is, there aren't many C's in the league that need to be stopped.

this. he mostly shut down amare on those 2 first round match-ups. he is overpaid though

[trig]

bust? yes
overpaid? yes
scrub? no

he's a pretty good defender and rebounder. Just can't catch and finish baskets with those trex hands and mentally weak brain. He's actually got decent agility and quick feet for his size but doesn't know how to use it on offense

[Jasper]

IN - LA his weaknesses were covered up and started getting a feel for the game.
Ironically I think his best year was in Char // playing along side Diap'
He boarded ,plugged the middle , very good out let passer and nice weakside offensive game.

He took Warriors for a ride , with that contract .. and now is in Milwaukee.
I hope he resign's in the off season with Milwaukee ...
But knowing Skiles ... he'll tell hammond that he would rather play under sized PF's at the 5 :facepalm

[NumberSix]

Compared to the very top .001% of basketball players in the world, he's a scrub, but he still IS one of those top .001%.

[knightfall88]

Jalen thinks he can take on Skip and Steven A Smith together. What a moron.

[sodap]

Kwame is a bust, not a scrub. SMH @ people who don't know the difference.


/thread

[White Mamba]

No, you just can't accept the fact sometimes players are just average. Not everyone is great or a scrub. Most guys in the league are just average. He's average.

THX DOCTOR BUT IT DOSEN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT HE IS IN DENIAL, GO WATCH THE SHOW AND LISTEN TO HIM.

[jbryan1984]

He aint a scrub, he just wasn't worthy of being a #1 pick. He has always been a solid center and a very good backup center.

[ILLsmak]

He's a journeyman because he has an amazing agent who continuously gets his client over-valued contracts which in turn results in him being thrown into trades to make the dollars match.

That's true shit.

I'm happy for him that he's making money. If I was Kwame, I'd practice more, though.

It might sound stupid, but I bet he could add some facet to his game to be something more than just a defender.

I'd love to see him as a spot up shooter.

-Smak

[Jasper]

Kwame is a 7' 270 lb 10 year NBA player that according to ISH and the media is a laughing joke of the league.

Kwame as the 001% bottom teer' NBA player would make mins'meat out of 85% non pro players and while the league still pays him that 10 years he has played

He has also earned about 25 million dollars +/-

Who you think will smile in his rocking chair when he gets old :confusedshrug:

If he doesn't re-sign with the Bucks in the off season where do you think he will go ?????

I'd say he has about an 80% or better chance hooking up with a contender :rockon:

[Bandito]

If he doesn't re-sign with the Bucks in the off season where do you think he will go ?????
The Heat?