Andrew Bynum is the best player on the Lakers

[StateOfMind12]

Hail to the new king of Los Angeles Lakers basketball

http://kingmayan.mysbrforum.com/photos/l/4bh3Nyyh.jpg

Bynum is the most impactful player on the Lakers. He isn't some shot jacker like Kobe. Bynum actually rebounds and plays defense too while Kobe just guards some guy standing in the corner because he can't and doesn't want to play defense anymore.

Bynum > Kobe, sorry Kobe, the torch has passed even though I know you hate passing.

[Lebron23]

Modern Day Xerxes

http://www.coolorama.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/37c50262a1Xerxes.gif.gif

[Stern]

Cant do sh1t on offense without kobe. But carry on RG.

[Heavincent]

lol at this bipolar kid that has 563 accounts on here.

And Bynum's FG% has plummeted ever since Kobe got injured (37%). Let me guess, just a coincidence?

Bynum's a great second option, but he's definitely not good enough to be a first option yet. But I don't even know why I'm arguing with a kid that changes his mind every 10 minutes.

[LABean]

Russell Westbrick is the best player on the Thunder. :applause:

[RazorBaLade]

Bynum is the most impactful player on the Lakers. He isn't some shot jacker like Kobe. Bynum actually rebounds and plays defense too while Kobe just guards some guy standing in the corner because he can't and doesn't want to play defense anymore.

Bynum > Kobe, sorry Kobe, the torch has passed even though I know you hate passing.

bynum is like 20/60 the last 3 games dude. theres no way u watch bynum play and dont think hes literally from the same school of shotjacking as kobe bryant and they both graduated with honors

[StateOfMind12]

bynum is like 20/60 the last 3 games dude. theres no way u watch bynum play and dont think hes literally from the same school of shotjacking as kobe bryant and they both graduated with honors
:applause: :oldlol: Like I said, Bynum impacts the game in more ways than Kobe does. Bynum is a shot jacker and a black hole like Kobe but at least Bynum plays defense and rebounds. Kobe on the other hand just guards some stand still 3 point shooter because he refuses to play defense and because he sucks at it these days.

Bynum > Kobe, no need to deny the truth anymore.

[KingBeasley08]

lol at this bipolar kid that has 563 accounts on here.

And Bynum's FG% has plummeted ever since Kobe got injured (37%). Let me guess, just a coincidence?

Bynum's a great second option, but he's definitely not good enough to be a first option yet. But I don't even know why I'm arguing with a kid that changes his mind every 10 minutes.
told u nigs that this kids crazy. but when he was riding kobe's dick, yall considered him a genius. :lol

RG GTFO

[RazorBaLade]

:applause: :oldlol: Like I said, Bynum impacts the game in more ways than Kobe does. Bynum is a shot jacker and a black hole like Kobe but at least Bynum plays defense and rebounds. Kobe on the other hand just guards some stand still 3 point shooter because he refuses to play defense and because he sucks at it these days.

Bynum > Kobe, no need to deny the truth anymore.

I don't think bynum>kobe but who cares.. Bynum can't do shit offensively as a 1st option which sucks, but its a hell of a 1-2 punch if they are both playing well or even average. The team looks good.

I don't really value defense and rebounding as much as you apparently do, I'd rather have melo than chandler.... But eh. I am looking forward to getting kobe back so bynum can start shooting 60% again instead of 30%.

[Godzuki]

lol at this bipolar kid that has 563 accounts on here.

And Bynum's FG% has plummeted ever since Kobe got injured (37%). Let me guess, just a coincidence?

Bynum's a great second option, but he's definitely not good enough to be a first option yet. But I don't even know why I'm arguing with a kid that changes his mind every 10 minutes.


lol you're so dumb :facepalm

sure idiot Bynum's missing short J's because Kobe's presence helps his touch how?

and this fool is always talkin down on others when you're reaal dumb. you should free your mind from kobe's nuts fgt.

[RazorBaLade]

lol you're so dumb :facepalm

sure idiot Bynum's missing short J's because Kobe's presence helps his touch how?

and this fool is always talkin down on others when you're reaal dumb. you should free your mind from kobe's nuts fgt.

Kobe's presence gets bynum way more lobs and easy dunks. Are you serious?

[coin24]

Is Kobe back for the nuggets game???
Hope so, I'll be at the game.:rockon:

[Heavincent]

told u nigs that this kids crazy. but when he was riding kobe's dick, yall considered him a genius. :lol

RG GTFO

I thought he was an okay poster before I found out about the trillion accounts he has one here. And then he started changing his mind about everything.

I'm sorry, I just have a distaste for bipolar people due to real life experiences with them.

[PickernRoller]

Kobe's presence gets bynum way more lobs and easy dunks. Are you serious?

He's a massive troll.....so no, he ain't.

[Bladers]

Bynum last 3 game -24/64 (37%)
Barnes last 2 games - 1/7 3PT line, Today (3/6)

Let me ether you.

Gasol always play great without Bynum, He averages 23pts on over 55% shooting.

Without Kobe?

24 pts under 50% shooting taking 24 shots a game.

Same with Bynum, With kobe? 13 shots a game 18ppg on over 58% shooting.

Without Kobe? 18ppg on 37% shooting taking 22 shots a game.

Those are all numbers without Kobe.

Artest have been playing his ass off with kobe the last few games aswell before kobe went out the line up.

He had like 25 vs houston a week ago with Kobe.

lol son you fail, your agenda is so obvious. you so mad right now.

[Stern]

I thought he was an okay poster before I found out about the trillion accounts he has one here. And then he started changing his mind about everything.

I'm sorry, I just have a distaste for bipolar people due to real life experiences with them.
On his other account RG is a Wade and Kobe fan.:facepalm

[Godzuki]

Kobe's presence gets bynum way more lobs and easy dunks. Are you serious?


from what? they aren't doubling Kobe, only in the last minute do they double him...its so overblown and untrue he's always doubled. he might get the other teams best defender but this idea he's so focused on he gets everyone easy baskets, especially the most dominating size presence in the league, isn't true. if anything Kobe will probably take the shot himself instead of passing it to wide open players anyways when he's doubled. his shot selection is so awful sometimes.

it should be easier for Kobe playing with 2 dominating big men, than its easier for them playing with Kobe. kobe's 20+ shots every game regardless of his being hot/cold, is what holds them back. to think of this team without Bynum or Gasol is what would break them.

[StateOfMind12]

Is Kobe back for the nuggets game???
Hope so, I'll be at the game.:rockon:
I hope so too so I can laugh when Kobe ends up getting more FGA than points in that game. :oldlol:

Bynum had to save his ass earlier in the season when they played the Nuggets since Kobe was shooting like 20% in that game. The superior player had to do what he had to do to carry his team to victory.

[RazorBaLade]

from what? they aren't doubling Kobe, only in the last minute do they double him...its so overblown and untrue he's always doubled. he might get the other teams best defender but this idea he's so focused on he gets everyone easy baskets, especially the most dominating size presence in the league, isn't true. if anything Kobe will probably take the shot himself instead of passing it to wide open players anyways when he's doubled. his shot selection is so awful sometimes.

it should be easier for Kobe playing with 2 dominating big men, than its easier for them playing with Kobe.

ban yourself please

[chazzy]

Bynum > Dwight > Prime Yao

[Stern]

Bynum > Dwight > Prime Yao
37% without kobe.:pimp:

[LA_Showtime]

from what? they aren't doubling Kobe, only in the last minute do they double him...its so overblown and untrue he's always doubled. he might get the other teams best defender but this idea he's so focused on he gets everyone easy baskets, especially the most dominating size presence in the league, isn't true. if anything Kobe will probably take the shot himself instead of passing it to wide open players anyways when he's doubled. his shot selection is so awful sometimes.

it should be easier for Kobe playing with 2 dominating big men, than its easier for them playing with Kobe. kobe's 20+ shots every game regardless of his being hot/cold, is what holds them back.

Don't be so stupid and dumb, or else your dumbness and stupidness will overwhelm your shitty posts and no one will understand just how stupid and dumb you are.

[L8kersfan222]

Bladers with the ETHER

[Godzuki]

I thought he was an okay poster before I found out about the trillion accounts he has one here. And then he started changing his mind about everything.

I'm sorry, I just have a distaste for bipolar people due to real life experiences with them.


you serious fool? calling someone else bipolar? :roll: surely you cant be serious :facepalm

man i guess some people don't know themselves too well...

[Heavincent]

kill yourself please

Fixed.

[Godzuki]

Don't be so stupid and dumb, or else your dumbness and stupidness will overwhelm your shitty posts and no one will understand just how stupid and dumb you are.


you should get your kobe lackey's to laugh at that again :lol

better yet you should call it trophy was it? thats sooo clever lmao :roll: :roll: :roll:

:facepalm

[Heavincent]

you serious fool? calling someone else bipolar? :roll: surely you cant be serious :facepalm

man i guess some people don't know themselves too well...

Do you even know what bipolar means? I really don't think you do.

Define bipolar in your own words.

[Godzuki]

ban yourself please


what are you denying? are you saying kobe is regularly getting doubled? since you'd be lying or wrong....

you just can't handle the truth.

[Bladers]

from what? they aren't doubling Kobe, only in the last minute do they double him...its so overblown and untrue he's always doubled. he might get the other teams best defender but this idea he's so focused on he gets everyone easy baskets, especially the most dominating size presence in the league, isn't true. if anything Kobe will probably take the shot himself instead of passing it to wide open players anyways when he's doubled. his shot selection is so awful sometimes.

it should be easier for Kobe playing with 2 dominating big men, than its easier for them playing with Kobe. kobe's 20+ shots every game regardless of his being hot/cold, is what holds them back. to think of this team without Bynum or Gasol is what would break them.

You don't even watch the lakers.

Not only does Bynum get alley ops from drives by Kobe. He also gets DEEEEEEEP positions from him.

Thirdly the Lakers most used play was Kobe/Gasol PnR. Kobe draws the double. Pass to open Gasol. Who draws Bynums man, which leads to an easy alley op to Bynum.

Bynum is shooting 37% since Kobe went out.
Gasol is also shooting under 50%.

You're such a retard. BAN YOURSELF.

[Godzuki]

Do you even know what bipolar means? I really don't think you do.

Define bipolar in your own words.


bipolar = heavincent's projection of himself onto others. explain how you're not...

in your own words.

[Lebron23]

BLADERS - homo alert

[LA_Showtime]

Do you even know what bipolar means? I really don't think you do.

Define bipolar in your own words.

I don't think "bipolar" is the right word for that guy. "Retarded" fits much better.

[Heavincent]

bipolar = heavincent's projection of himself onto others. explain how you're not...

in your own words.

Yep, just as I suspected. You have no idea what it means.

[Godzuki]

You don't even watch the lakers.

Not only does Bynum get alley ops from drives by Kobe. He also gets DEEEEEEEP positions from him.

Thirdly the Lakers most used play was Kobe/Gasol PnR. Kobe draws the double. Pass to open Gasol. Who draws Bynums man, which leads to an easy alley op to Bynum.

Bynum is shooting 37% since Kobe went out.
Gasol is also shooting under 50%.

You're such a retard. BAN YOURSELF.


this is the same kid saying Pau was the only one who played well tonight :oldlol:

you all need to start a forum where you can just lie about what just happened. call it the Kobe forum where you pretend everyone else around him is awful, and make excuses for why they should've lost since Kobe wasn't playing.

thoughts? :confusedshrug:

[Godzuki]

Yep, just as I suspected. You have no idea what it means.


just as i suspected, its hereditary in your family. i knew it :pimp:

[Jameerthefear]

Kobe makes Bynum. And the stats show it.

[Heavincent]

I don't think "bipolar" is the right word for that guy. "Retarded" fits much better.

Who, StateOfMind? He's got to be bipolar. The kid changes his mind every 10 minutes. Or amybe he's just a troll. Who knows.

[PickernRoller]

this is the same kid saying Pau was the only one who played well tonight :oldlol:

you all need to start a forum where you can just lie about what just happened. call it the Kobe forum where you pretend everyone else around him is awful, and make excuses for why they should've lost since Kobe wasn't playing.

thoughts? :confusedshrug:

Kobe was coaching thou....:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: .....clown trying too hard now. :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Godzuki]

I don't think "bipolar" is the right word for that guy. "Retarded" fits much better.


how about 'trophy'? :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Bladers]

this is the same kid saying Pau was the only one who played well tonight :oldlol:

you all need to start a forum where you can just lie about what just happened. call it the Kobe forum where you pretend everyone else around him is awful, and make excuses for why they should've lost since Kobe wasn't playing.

thoughts? :confusedshrug:

That was at halftime you idiot. before Barnes and MWP went bonkers. :facepalm

[Heavincent]

just as i suspected, its hereditary in your family. i knew it :pimp:

Until you define it in your own words, I'm just going to assume you have no idea what it means, even though it's common knowledge to anybody that isn't retarded.

[PickernRoller]

Who, StateOfMind? He's got to be bipolar. The kid changes his mind every 10 minutes. Or amybe he's just a troll. Who knows.

Troll....although I don't mind him. He's straight....now there are the fakes....those are the sh1tty trolls...

[Bladers]

Kobe was coaching thou....:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: .....clown trying too hard now. :oldlol: :oldlol:


Ireland:

"How did you guys do this (win the game) without Kobe Bryant?"

Metta World Peace:

"We did it with Kobe. Kobe was actually out there coaching us. Every timeout, Kobe was out there and making adjustments for us. You know Popavich he's a great coach he made a lot of adjustments, but Kobe was out there with us and we couldn't do it without him."

Trollzuki on suicide watch.

[Stern]

Troll....although I don't mind him. He's straight....now there are the fakes....those are the sh1tty trolls...
:roll: :roll: :roll:

RG has now logged onto his other account.:lol

[Godzuki]

Kobe makes Bynum. And the stats show it.


bynum would have better stats on any other team.

not only would he have better numbers across the board, Kobe's numbers would go down.

not only would Kobe's numbers go down but wherever Bynum went, their other stars other than big men's numbers will go up.

and anyone that went to the Lakers to play with Kobe in exchange for Bynum, their numbers would go down.

the 'kobe effect'

[LA_Showtime]

Who, StateOfMind? He's got to be bipolar. The kid changes his mind every 10 minutes. Or amybe he's just a troll. Who knows.

Nah, Godzuki/Brian.

[clayton]

Bynum putting up Kobe numbers except for rebounds.

[Godzuki]

Nah, Godzuki/Brian.


how about 'trophy'? :roll: :roll: :roll:

[PickernRoller]

bynum would have better stats on any other team.

not only would he have better numbers across the board, Kobe's numbers would go down.

not only would Kobe's numbers go down but wherever Bynum went, their other stars other than big men's numbers will go up.

and anyone that went to the Lakers to play with Kobe in exchange for Bynum, their numbers would go down.

the 'kobe effect'

Kobe's numbers will go down????.....:oldlol: :oldlol: WOW...you mean Kobe's numbers will go UP right? Ever heard of one man army? That's been Kobe without big mans for all of his career...his numbers are generally up without big mans. Just shows how pathetic you're.

Trying too hard now....too desperate you're not even checking the sh1t you're saying. Spouting sh1t now. Just like last time, and last time, and last time....ohh I forgot, and last time.

[Heavincent]

Nah, Godzuki/Brian.

Oh, well that kid is just inbred retarded. My original post was referring to StateOfMind. Godzuki called me out on it even though he doesn't even know what it means.

[LA_Showtime]

how about 'trophy'? :roll: :roll: :roll:

How does that make me retarded? He doesn't have a nickname, and I'm not stupid enough to give him a better nickname that would almost certainly get me banned on here, so I figured why not. At least I didn't call him a former star player, right?

[StateOfMind12]

Who, StateOfMind? He's got to be bipolar. The kid changes his mind every 10 minutes. Or amybe he's just a troll. Who knows.
How do I change my mind every 10 minutes? :oldlol:

When I had praise Kobe and said he was playing MVP caliber, it was in the beginning of the season when he was actually playing like an MVP player.

It is clear that he is no longer that good anymore and he is not even the best player on his own team anymore. I've been saying that for the past 2 months but apparently 2 months ago is the same as 10 minutes ago. :oldlol:

Re-post since this kid wants to ignore me. Maybe this kid just refuses to accept the truth. It would explain why he is so offended when someone says another player is better than Kobe. :oldlol:

[KingBeasley08]

OP is fakkit. Why don't you get laid or somethin, RG? :oldlol: at you posting with your other account

[Godzuki]

Kobe's numbers will go down????.....:oldlol: :oldlol: WOW...you mean Kobe's numbers will go UP right?

Trying to hard now....too desperate you're not even checking the sh1t you're saying. Spouting sh1t now. Just like last time, and last time, and last time....ohh I forgot, and last time.


he'd have much less opportunities with less offensive/defensive boards by his bigs to bail out his missed chucks, AND the other team wouldn't have to worry about collapsing the lane to defend easy lobs.

if you even played an ounce of basketball in your life, you'd know its a whole lot easier for a guard to play with a dominating big man than vice versa.

[KingBeasley08]

How do I change my mind every 10 minutes? :oldlol:

When I had praise Kobe and said he was playing MVP caliber, it was in the beginning of the season when he was actually playing like an MVP player.

It is clear that he is no longer that good anymore and he is not even the best player on his own team anymore. I've been saying that for the past 2 months but apparently 2 months ago is the same as 10 minutes ago. :oldlol:

Re-post since this guy wants to ignore me.
Swagger, IDefend5, DaPercieve, Inception28

What do they have in common? They're all Kobe stans. More than that, they have the same IP as you :roll:

[PickernRoller]

OP is fakkit. Why don't you get laid or somethin, RG? :oldlol: at you posting with your other account

No sh1t? his other acct? Disappointing.....

[Godzuki]

How does that make me retarded? He doesn't have a nickname, and I'm not stupid enough to give him a better nickname that would almost certainly get me banned on here, so I figured why not. At least I didn't call him a former star player, right?


i thought we were trying to be clever... :oldlol:

[Heavincent]

How do I change my mind every 10 minutes? :oldlol:

When I had praise Kobe and said he was playing MVP caliber, it was in the beginning of the season when he was actually playing like an MVP player.

It is clear that he is no longer that good anymore and he is not even the best player on his own team anymore. I've been saying that for the past 2 months but apparently 2 months ago is the same as 10 minutes ago. :oldlol:

Re-post since this kid wants to ignore me. Maybe this kid just refuses to accept the truth. It would explain why he is so offended when someone says another player is better than Kobe. :oldlol:

Sorry, I don't associate myself with bipolar trolls with 729 accounts.

[StateOfMind12]

More than that, they have the same IP as you :roll:
Really? Can you show me evidence of that? I would really like to see it.

[DMAVS41]

Kobe stan: "fg% doesn't matter. its all about the other things you do like defending and rebounding. Like Kobe in game 7 in 2010....15 boards zomg....Goatbe. Oh and Bynum sucks and is a product of Kobe"

Kobe stan: "lol...bynum shot 7-20. efficiency means everything. ignore his 30 boards and great defense. bynum is a product of Kobe"

Did i get that right?

[Godzuki]

Oh, well that kid is just inbred retarded. My original post was referring to StateOfMind. Godzuki called me out on it even though he doesn't even know what it means.


i already told you bipolar = heavincent projecting his own large list of issues onto others....

[KingBeasley08]

Really? Can you show me evidence of that? I would really like to see it.
You didn't guess yet? This is my alternate account.

Me = Jeff

I know everything muthaf*cka

[KingBeasley08]

Kobe stan: "fg% doesn't matter. its all about the other things you do like defending and rebounding. Like Kobe in game 7 in 2010....15 boards zomg....Goatbe. Oh and Bynum sucks and is a product of Kobe"

Kobe stan: "lol...bynum shot 7-20. efficiency means everything. ignore his 30 boards and great defense. bynum is a product of Kobe"

Did i get that right?
:oldlol: this is true

[StateOfMind12]

i already told you bipolar = heavincent projecting his own large list of issues onto others....
:oldlol: He is just an insecure kid who is a fan of Kobe. I would just ignore him. He is too emotional.


Kobe stan: "fg% doesn't matter. its all about the other things you do like defending and rebounding. Like Kobe in game 7 in 2010....15 boards zomg....Goatbe. Oh and Bynum sucks and is a product of Kobe"

Kobe stan: "lol...bynum shot 7-20. efficiency means everything. ignore his 30 boards and great defense. bynum is a product of Kobe"

Did i get that right?
:applause: :oldlol: Efficiency only applies to Kobe stans when Kobe has the upper hand in that department.


You didn't guess yet? This is my alternate account.

Me = Jeff

I know everything muthaf*cka
:oldlol: Yeah, you got nothing.

[Godzuki]

Sorry, I don't associate myself with bipolar trolls with 729 accounts.


ughhh you're bipolar,... stfu idiot :facepalm

[LA_Showtime]

i thought we were trying to be clever... :oldlol:

...? Yes, and I thought that was clever. There's a good chance I actually put you on my ignore list. That in itself deserves a medal, as I have never bothered to do that shit to anyone. :lol

[KingBeasley08]

RG, why dont u screw this woman??

http://images.cinemaring.com/upload/upload_screenshots/images/cr_actors/9/9/9/f37803e96324c22855c77caaee82f728.jpg

[BEAST Griffin]

Kobe stan: "fg% doesn't matter. its all about the other things you do like defending and rebounding. Like Kobe in game 7 in 2010....15 boards zomg....Goatbe. Oh and Bynum sucks and is a product of Kobe"

Kobe stan: "lol...bynum shot 7-20. efficiency means everything. ignore his 30 boards and great defense. bynum is a product of Kobe"

Did i get that right?

Yes. You got that right.

[Godzuki]

...? Yes, and I thought that was clever. There's a good chance I actually put you on my ignore list. That in itself deserves a medal, as I have never bothered to do that shit to anyone. :lol


lol who cares? :oldlol:

not like you ever give me any insight to what goes on in the NBA, let alone laker games, or start a thread i'll ever miss.... by all means put me on ignore :cheers:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Really? Can you show me evidence of that? I would really like to see it.

Damn kid, you just cant help yourself. If you were an actual Bryant fan like you've claimed in the past, you would not be making threads like these. This isn't the first time either. The condensing tone of your posts make it obvious you're just trying to get a reaction from other Lakers fans.

How pathetic does a person have to be to do this constantly...for years. No joke, RG has been pulling this shit since I joined the forum. :oldlol:

[Heavincent]

i already told you bipolar = heavincent projecting his own large list of issues onto others....

Wow.

Hard to believe you're this retarded.

[Tenchi Ryu]

RG, why dont u screw this woman??

http://images.cinemaring.com/upload/upload_screenshots/images/cr_actors/9/9/9/f37803e96324c22855c77caaee82f728.jpg
You say that like its a bad thing...I'd tear her shit up.

[LA_Showtime]

lol who cares? :oldlol:

not like you ever give me any insight to what goes on in the NBA, let alone laker games, or start a thread i'll ever miss.... by all means put me on ignore :cheers:

For someone who gives you no insight, you sure do have a lot of responses.

[Bladers]

Kobe stan: "fg% doesn't matter. its all about the other things you do like defending and rebounding. Like Kobe in game 7 in 2010....15 boards zomg....Goatbe. Oh and Bynum sucks and is a product of Kobe"

Kobe stan: "lol...bynum shot 7-20. efficiency means everything. ignore his 30 boards and great defense. bynum is a product of Kobe"

Did i get that right?


Shooting 37% is shooting 27% for a guard. Thats horrible.

IF kobe was shooting 27% you think people won't be calling for his head? :oldlol:

He has a 3 for 20 game and people made threads saying he should retire. :roll:

[PickernRoller]

he'd have much less opportunities with less offensive/defensive boards by his bigs to bail out his missed chucks, AND the other team wouldn't have to worry about collapsing the lane to defend easy lobs.

if you even played an ounce of basketball in your life, you'd know its a whole lot easier for a guard to play with a dominating big man than vice versa.

You're moron.....you're just calling it on a general sense to wipe your @ss off. This doesn't apply to Kobe and shows the fact that you have never watched the Lakers or Kobe for that matter. Although what you say is true on paper, it doesn't apply to Kobe.

1. He shares the ball more with a dominant big so his field goal attempts go down.
2. Easier to win with less production from Kobe with a dominant big.

That makes his numbers go DOWN, NOT UP! You're still an ignorant fool and clown. Never watched Post SHAQ, Pre Gasol Kobe did you? Although I would expect such a thing from a clown just to make his points. I forgot you were all about "making points".....CLOWN. :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Godzuki]

For someone who gives you no insight, you sure do have a lot of responses.


you responded to me in this thread, and all i've been doing is clownin what you call clever :oldlol:

[DMAVS41]

Shooting 37% is shooting 27% for a guard. Thats horrible.

IF kobe was shooting 27% you think people won't be calling for his head? :oldlol:

He has a 3 for 20 game and people made threads saying he should retire. :roll:

You act like I'm saying Bynum has played really well since Kobe went down or something. Tonight I thought he played pretty awesome...but thats about it.

I just love the double standards.

And Gasol has played really well since Kobe went down.

But you simply can't have it both ways. Either fg% is more important than you claim....or you need to be more consistent.

Especially since guys like Gasol and Bynum impact the game so much in terms of defense and rebounding compared to Kobe.

Just can't have it both ways....sorry.

[Godzuki]

Wow.

Hard to believe you're this retarded.


hard to believe you're so dumb and stupid....and bipolar

[Godzuki]

You're moron.....you're just calling it on a general sense to wipe your @ss off. This doesn't apply to Kobe and shows the fact that you have never watched the Lakers or Kobe for that matter. Although what you say is true on paper, it doesn't apply to Kobe.

1. He shares the ball more with a dominant big so his FA goes down.
2. Easier to win with less production from Kobe with a dominant big.

That makes his numbers go DOWN, NOT UP! You're still an ignorant fool and clown.


only kobe fans :facepalm

kobe takes 20+ shots a game, bynum/pau average what? like 10~?

Sessions shares the ball, Kobe barely...

[PickernRoller]

only kobe fans :facepalm

kobe takes 20+ shots a game, bynum/pau average what? like 10~?

Sessions shares the ball, Kobe barely...

Nice response :oldlol: :oldlol: nothing to do with your claim of Kobe's numbers going down without bigs....good luck kiddo....you're a clown in every thread you're at. Your several accounts including this one have been banned thousands of times and you are still clowning on ISH. Have some self respect whore...

[Bladers]

You act like I'm saying Bynum has played really well since Kobe went down or something. Tonight I thought he played pretty awesome...but thats about it.

I just love the double standards.

And Gasol has played really well since Kobe went down.

But you simply can't have it both ways. Either fg% is more important than you claim....or you need to be more consistent.

Especially since guys like Gasol and Bynum impact the game so much in terms of defense and rebounding compared to Kobe.

Just can't have it both ways....sorry.

Gasol always plays good when he gets more touches and post position.
I already told you that. You don't listen.

His shooting percentage skyrockets without bynum. But goes down (under 50%) without Kobe.
Just like Bynums FG% is 58% with Kobe and 37% without him.
its not a coincidence. Its a fact.

[Godzuki]

Nice response :oldlol: :oldlol: nothing to do with your claim of Kobe's numbers going down without bigs....good luck kiddo....you're a clown in every thread you're at. Your several accounts including this one have been banned thousands of times and you are still clowning on ISH. Have some self respect whore...


is this nickyoung or millwad? got to be nickyoung :roll: :roll: :roll: sounds like 'kiddo' is part of your regular vocabulary in RL i bet too....lol :facepalm it all makes sense now...

i already said opposing teams wouldn't have to worry about collapsing on Bynum so much for ez lobs, and any sane team would give Kobe the 18ft'er over Bynum lob dunk any day of the week.

and without bynum/gasol, all kobe would be is Joe Johnson without JoshSmith/Horford, even worse off...

[DMAVS41]

Gasol always plays good when he gets more touches and post position.
I already told you that. You don't listen.

His shooting percentage skyrockets without bynum. But goes down (under 50%) without Kobe.
Just like Bynums FG% is 58% with Kobe and 37% without him.
its not a coincidence. Its a fact.

Who is saying they are better off without Kobe? Stop putting words into my posts. I have never said that....ever.

All I have ever said is that they are capable players both with and without Kobe....and that Kobe should shoot a little less...between 4 or 5 shots less a game and allow his teammates to get more involved. I say this because his supporting cast is very capable and Kobe uses up too many possessions on the offensive end.

If he gave his supporting cast a few more opportunities a game...I think they would surprise both him and fans with how good they could be.

Basketball has been and will always be a rhythm game. If you don't see many touches...its going to impact your play unless you are just a spot up shooter.

Not one time did I ever suggest that Gasol or Bynum or the Lakers are better off without Kobe. I've repeatedly said the exact opposite. I simply think Kobe needs to share the ball more.

And he does. He's shooting way too much for how efficient he's been this year...especially the last 2.5 months where he is shooting right at 40% over the last 34 games.

Do you really think its such an absurd notion or idea to ask Kobe to take like 19 or 20 shots and shoot higher than 45% from the field? :wtf:

[YAWN]

only kobe fans :facepalm

kobe takes 20+ shots a game, bynum/pau average what? like 10~?

Sessions shares the ball, Kobe barely...

Bynum is top 3 in the league among centers in FGA while taking just 0.6 shots less than Dwight Howard a game... and Bynum is a second option....

Pau is top 10 in the league among PF's in FGA. As the third option....

[Godzuki]

Bynum is top 3 in the league among centers in FGA while taking just 0.6 shots less than Dwight Howard a game... and Bynum is a second option....

Pau is top 10 in the league among PF's in FGA. As the third option....


how many star Centers worth going to are there in the league? that stat is misleading. everyone knows the Center competition these days is awful.

theres no way i'm consistently imagining all of the box scores i've seen of Gasol/Bynum getting around 10~ shots while Kobe consistently had 20+....

obviously not talking about the last few games with kobe on the bench and Bynum getting a lot more.

[Bladers]

Who is saying they are better off without Kobe? Stop putting words into my posts. I have never said that....ever.

All I have ever said is that they are capable players both with and without Kobe....and that Kobe should shoot a little less...between 4 or 5 shots less a game and allow his teammates to get more involved. I say this because his supporting cast is very capable and Kobe uses up too many possessions on the offensive end.

If he gave his supporting cast a few more opportunities a game...I think they would surprise both him and fans with how good they could be.

Basketball has been and will always be a rhythm game. If you don't see many touches...its going to impact your play unless you are just a spot up shooter.

Not one time did I ever suggest that Gasol or Bynum or the Lakers are better off without Kobe. I've repeatedly said the exact opposite. I simply think Kobe needs to share the ball more.

And he does. He's shooting way too much for how efficient he's been this year...especially the last 2.5 months where he is shooting right at 40% over the last 34 games.

Do you really think its such an absurd notion or idea to ask Kobe to take like 19 or 20 shots and shoot higher than 45% from the field? :wtf:

Stop it.

Kobe is averaging 18-19 shots since Sessions got here.

His cast does get opportunities (more than lebrons.) He doesn't dominate the ball like Lebron either.

Lebron holds the ball for 20 secs before passing.

They just suck Barnes was in a shooting slump the last 10-12 games that he overcame today. And he still can't make a layup to save his life

Artest has always been inconsistent always shows up in big games though.

and ofcourse don't get me started with our bench... murphy, blake, barnes.

We suck. WE are the worst bench in the league. Our offense plummet when Kobe goes out the line up, but doesn't change (even gets better) when Bynum goes out.

Your agenda argument is severely flawed.

You pump up Kobe's cast to bring down kobe and put down Lebron's cast to bring up Lebron.

You've been doing that since the dawn of time.

Stop it. You ain't fooling no body.

[Bladers]

Someone ask Gino. How the great Derick Fisher whom he praises routinely and calls a solid PG has done in thunder?

He's shooting 12%. LOL

WE also shipped out Walton (who doesn't see day light) and Kapono (who got cut).

[PickernRoller]

Someone ask Gino. How the great Derick Fisher whom he praises routinely and calls a solid PG has done in thunder?

He's shooting 12%. LOL

WE also shipped out Walton (who doesn't see day light) and Kapono (who got cut).

Same will happen to Blake and Murphy and the scrubs on the Lakers bench...just give it time....

[LA_Showtime]

Someone ask Gino. How the great Derick Fisher whom he praises routinely and calls a solid PG has done in thunder?

He's shooting 12%. LOL

WE also shipped out Walton (who doesn't see day light) and Kapono (who got cut).

Is he really? I bet half of that came against us.

[blacknapalm]

Stop it.

Kobe is averaging 18-19 shots since Sessions got here.

His cast does get opportunities (more than lebrons.) He doesn't dominate the ball like Lebron either.

Lebron holds the ball for 20 secs before passing.

They just suck Barnes was in a shooting slump the last 10-12 games that he overcame today. And he still can't make a layup to save his life

Artest has always been inconsistent always shows up in big games though.

and ofcourse don't get me started with our bench... murphy, blake, barnes.

We suck. WE are the worst bench in the league. Our offense plummet when Kobe goes out the line up, but doesn't change (even gets better) when Bynum goes out.

Your agenda argument is severely flawed.

You pump up Kobe's cast to bring down kobe and put down Lebron's cast to bring up Lebron.

You've been doing that since the dawn of time.

Stop it. You ain't fooling no body.

wrong angle to take. kobe leads the league in usage rate at 33.3 and it's not even close. lebron is 5th at 29.4 (and that's with wade missing games). neither bynum or gasol have missed more than a couple games this season

i won't argue the bench thing too much...though they aren't the worst in the league. they are arguably the worst of the 'contenders' however

[RazorBaLade]

wrong angle to take. kobe leads the league in usage rate at 33.3 and it's not even close. lebron is 5th at 29.4 (and that's with wade missing games). neither bynum or gasol have missed more than a couple games this season

i won't argue the bench thing too much...though they aren't the worst in the league. they are arguably the worst of the 'contenders' however

and whats his usage after sessions came back? what are u ****ing retarded? guy talks about shot attempts for full season he replies but look at shot attempts after sessions and u come back and say look at usage for full season.. u mother****er

this site is ****ing unbearable.. it was a dream the last 2 games , jesus christ but look at it tonight

[blacknapalm]

and whats his usage after sessions came back? what are u ****ing retarded? guy talks about shot attempts for full season he replies but look at shot attempts after sessions and u come back and say look at usage for full season.. u mother****er

this site is ****ing unbearable.. it was a dream the last 2 games , jesus christ but look at it tonight

:lol why are you getting so mad? i was just putting the full season in perspective and making a correction....yes, his usage rate has gone down since sessions. it was around 31%. still fairly high but i think wade and westbrook had higher usage rates during that time period. i'm not really arguing one way or another as most of the posts are troll-ish in nature....

also why are the lakers losing the last two games a dream?

[RazorBaLade]

:lol why are you getting so mad? i was just putting the full season in perspective and making a correction....yes, his usage rate has gone down since sessions. it was around 31%. still fairly high but i think wade and westbrook had higher usage rates during that time period

because its retarded.... you just spew shit that u know has no relevance. The guys point is that once the lakers received a player back for lamar odoms place kobes shot attempts are perfectly normal for a player of his caliber and then you go and list a stat for the full season. I just dont understand. Why?

[blacknapalm]

because its retarded.... you just spew shit that u know has no relevance. The guys point is that once the lakers received a player back for lamar odoms place kobes shot attempts are perfectly normal for a player of his caliber and then you go and list a stat for the full season. I just dont understand. Why?

larger sample size, larger picture = more accuracy. he went from around 33% to 31%, so it's not like it was some drastic fall. his usage rate is the second highest it's ever been in his career. you're getting all mad...why?

[Bladers]

wrong angle to take. kobe leads the league in usage rate at 33.3 and it's not even close. lebron is 5th at 29.4 (and that's with wade missing games). neither bynum or gasol have missed more than a couple games this season

i won't argue the bench thing too much...though they aren't the worst in the league. they are arguably the worst of the 'contenders' however

Do you even know WTF USAGE is? Its not what you think it is son.

Its not the amount of time you ballhog/pound/dominant the ball.

Quite far from it. A player can hold the ball for 23 seconds and pass to you and you get the shot clock violation and the turnover. Therefore he doesn't get accounted for holding the ball for 23 seconds of the offense (which lebron does). but you get penalized for holding it for 1 sec just because you got a turnover and your USG rating goes up.

Usage rating calculates shot attempt, assists, turnovers, etc.

It has nothing to do with ball domination. Which part of that don't you seem to understand?

[RazorBaLade]

larger sample size, larger picture = more accuracy. he went from around 33% to 31%, so it's not like it was some drastic fall. his usage rate is the second highest it's ever been in his career. you're getting all mad...why?

Lmao the circumstances change and he says so what the larger sample size is whats important. Note I'm not even arguing about what usage rate proves, I have no idea what it means, but you're looking at it incorrectly so thats why I'm here.

This is the fact of the matter:

Since the lakers have had a full team, Kobe's usage rate in a small sample size has been 31%. If you want to make any extrapolations based on that, feel free, but to use anything else in any other context is moronic.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

because its retarded.... you just spew shit that u know has no relevance. The guys point is that once the lakers received a player back for lamar odoms place kobes shot attempts are perfectly normal for a player of his caliber and then you go and list a stat for the full season. I just dont understand. Why?

You Kobe fans act like scorned females. Quit getting so emotional over a playground sport. :oldlol:

[blacknapalm]

Do you even know WTF USAGE is? Its not what you think it is son.

Its not the amount of time you ballhog/pound/dominant the ball.

Quite far from it. A play can hold the ball for 23 seconds and pass to you and you get the shot clock violation and the turnover. Therefore he doesn't get accounted for holding the ball for 23 seconds of the offense (which lebron does). but you get penalized for holding it for 1 sec just because you got a turnover.

Usage rating calculates shot attempt, assists, turnovers, etc.

It has nothing to do with ball domination. Which part of that don't you seem to understand?

i know what it is. it's the only metric that comes close to proving or disproving what you say. the higher the player's usage rate, the more possessions the player utilizes. i realize that.

show me the 'ball bouncing time' stat. i'm sure tyreke evans last season had to be in the top 3. i haven't seen lebron hold and dribble for 20 seconds as often as you make it out to be. if he did, his adjusted assists and FGA would be through the roof and thus, his usage rate would be even higher

anyway, we're just gonna go in circles here. i've said multiple times that lebron needs to get better at moving without the ball. hell, most superstars in this league do. i never understood why LA doesn't utilize more screens as kobe is a pretty good catch and shoot player. i also don't understand why they don't run PNR with sessions and gasol more often

[RazorBaLade]

You Kobe fans act like scorned females. Quit getting so emotional over a playground sport. :oldlol:

I would prefer proper discussion on this forum over your gaped anus trolling on here because you miss your daddy. Just stop trolling you ******s. If you have an argument that you personally cannot figure out how to argue against, that you just cannot imagine a logical response, then post. Until then, just talk to yourself.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

I would prefer proper discussion on this forum over your gaped anus trolling on here because you miss your daddy. Just stop trolling you ******s. If you have an argument that you personally cannot figure out how to argue against, that you just cannot imagine a logical response, then post. Until then, just talk to yourself.

:biggums:

Look at you getting worked up like a little bitch. No one wants to hear your m*sturbatory fantasies, kiddo.

[RazorBaLade]

:biggums:

Look at you getting worked up like a little bitch. No one wants to hear your m*sturbatory fantasies, kiddo.

how sad must ones life be to daily troll a basketball forum? Do you have a lot of downtime during your waste disposal collecting route?

[Bladers]

i know what it is. it's the only metric that comes close to proving or disproving what you say. the higher the player's usage rate, the more possessions the player utilizes. i realize that.

show me the 'ball bouncing time' stat. i'm sure tyreke evans last season had to be in the top 3. i haven't seen lebron hold and dribble for 20 seconds as often as you make it out to be. if he did, his adjusted assists and FGA would be through the roof and thus, his usage rate would be even higher

anyway, we're just gonna go in circles here. i've said multiple times that lebron needs to get better at moving without the ball. hell, most superstars in this league do

The whole point is that the statistic metric isn't accurate, scientific or peer-reviewed.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

how sad must ones life be to daily troll a basketball forum? Do you have a lot of downtime during your waste disposal collecting route?

Explain how I'm trolling. Can't wait to hear this one, Kobe fan.

[the_future02]

Hail to the new king of Los Angeles Lakers basketball

http://kingmayan.mysbrforum.com/photos/l/4bh3Nyyh.jpg

Bynum is the most impactful player on the Lakers. He isn't some shot jacker like Kobe. Bynum actually rebounds and plays defense too while Kobe just guards some guy standing in the corner because he can't and doesn't want to play defense anymore.

Bynum > Kobe, sorry Kobe, the torch has passed even though I know you hate passing.

Fukkin Swagg :pimp:

[RazorBaLade]

Explain how I'm trolling. Can't wait to hear this one, Kobe fan.

simply by being a ******

[blacknapalm]

The whole point is that the statistic metric isn't accurate, scientific or peer-reviewed.

fair enough. it's not perfect and it doesn't wholly show ball dominance...but it's the only starting point we have. unless, of course, i'll wait for you to provide me with that 'ball dominance' stat. otherwise, you're just stating mostly conjecture. generally, the top 15 in usage rating are all guys who either hold the ball a lot, pound it around a lot or touch it on every possession

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

simply by being a ******

You're in every thread defending Kobe like your one of his groupies. Grow up, son. It's really not that serious.

[SlayerEnraged]

Big men shooting 45% is like a guard shooting 35%. Bigmen shooting 40% is like a guard shooting under 30%. The fg% stardard for bigmen is and should always be much higher than guards.

[RazorBaLade]

You're in every thread defending Kobe like your one of his groupies. Grow up, son. It's really not that serious.

I defend logic. Would I need to defend logic if you and your kind weren't shitting in every thread?

[Grinder]

this site is ****ing unbearable.. it was a dream the last 2 games , jesus christ but look at it tonight

The Lakers narrowly beating the Hornets and losing to the Rockets is a dream for you? And you call yourself a Lakers fan? :wtf:

[LakersReign]

I defend logic. Would I need to defend logic if you and your kind weren't shitting in every thread?


kuniva is yet another one of 32dayz "sock puppet" accounts. Notice how "godzuki" disappeared and "kuniva" picked up where he left off, even using the word groupies....just like godzuki? The clown's just mad cuz nobody but dmavs ret**ded a** agrees with him. Pathetic as f***:facepalm

[Legends66NBA7]

RG, why dont u screw this woman??

http://images.cinemaring.com/upload/upload_screenshots/images/cr_actors/9/9/9/f37803e96324c22855c77caaee82f728.jpg

Who's this ?

:pimp:

EDIT - Her name's Jamie Chung.

[LakersReign]

Hail to the new king of Los Angeles Lakers basketball

http://kingmayan.mysbrforum.com/photos/l/4bh3Nyyh.jpg

Bynum is the most impactful player on the Lakers. He isn't some shot jacker like Kobe. Bynum actually rebounds and plays defense too while Kobe just guards some guy standing in the corner because he can't and doesn't want to play defense anymore.

Bynum > Kobe, sorry Kobe, the torch has passed even though I know you hate passing.


Spoken like somebody who 1) hates Kobe, and 2) has no clue what he's talking about since he CLEARLY doesn't watch Laker games. Noting to see here:rolleyes:






Movin on:sleeping

[RazorBaLade]

The Lakers narrowly beating the Hornets and losing to the Rockets is a dream for you? And you call yourself a Lakers fan? :wtf:

We were talking about the state of the forum and so my post was in reference to the forum on those days not the games.

[Celtic_Pride]

I think the sheer presence of Bynum intimidates the hell out of point guards to drive to the basket!

Watched some parts of the game, Tony settled for jump shots more often than not

[RazorBaLade]

I think the sheer presence of Bynum intimidates the hell out of point guards to drive to the basket!

Watched some parts of the game, Tony settled for jump shots more often than not

True. They know he's ****ing psycho. I remember some year in the playoffs tony was wrecking us and shaq gave him a flagrant one time and he was never the same and lakers won easily after it.... He doesn't wanna get barea'd

[DMAVS41]

Stop it.

Kobe is averaging 18-19 shots since Sessions got here.

His cast does get opportunities (more than lebrons.) He doesn't dominate the ball like Lebron either.

Lebron holds the ball for 20 secs before passing.

They just suck Barnes was in a shooting slump the last 10-12 games that he overcame today. And he still can't make a layup to save his life

Artest has always been inconsistent always shows up in big games though.

and ofcourse don't get me started with our bench... murphy, blake, barnes.

We suck. WE are the worst bench in the league. Our offense plummet when Kobe goes out the line up, but doesn't change (even gets better) when Bynum goes out.

Your agenda argument is severely flawed.

You pump up Kobe's cast to bring down kobe and put down Lebron's cast to bring up Lebron.

You've been doing that since the dawn of time.

Stop it. You ain't fooling no body.


No...you stop it.

Kobe this season has dominated the ball and offense like no other player in the game. I have no agenda. I am simply commenting on a topic I find interesting.

Kobe needs to either shoot better or shoot less. I really don't care...that is just my opinion. He's shot 40% for the last 34 games and he's taking somewhere around 23 to 24 shots a game. I don't think that makes sense given his situation.

You can disagree...and that is fine....but you'd also just be wrong.

You come on here hammering Bynum and Gasol over fg% these last few games and then you give Kobe a free pass. The difference? Gasol would never jack up 24 shots a game and shoot 40% for two months with the likes of Kobe and Bynum on his team. Why? Because he's not by far the biggest ball hog in the league.

Are you really saying Lebron is a bigger ball hog than Kobe? Do you ever actually watch Lebron play? Do you realize how unselfish he actually is and how willing and great of a passer he is? I thought you said Lebron needs to play more like Kobe....now he's too selfish? Stay consistent.

Only on ISH dealing with Kobe stans could you find anyone thinking that the last two months of Kobe shooting 40% at an absurd volume and usage is optimal given his supporting cast. Its ****ing absurd....sorry.

[Bladers]

No...you stop it.

Kobe this season has dominated the ball and offense like no other player in the game. I have no agenda. I am simply commenting on a topic I find interesting.

Kobe needs to either shoot better or shoot less. I really don't care...that is just my opinion. He's shot 40% for the last 34 games and he's taking somewhere around 23 to 24 shots a game. I don't think that makes sense given his situation.

You can disagree...and that is fine....but you'd also just be wrong.

You come on here hammering Bynum and Gasol over fg% these last few games and then you give Kobe a free pass. The difference? Gasol would never jack up 24 shots a game and shoot 40% for two months with the likes of Kobe and Bynum on his team. Why? Because he's not by far the biggest ball hog in the league.

Are you really saying Lebron is a bigger ball hog than Kobe? Do you ever actually watch Lebron play? Do you realize how unselfish he actually is and how willing and great of a passer he is? I thought you said Lebron needs to play more like Kobe....now he's too selfish? Stay consistent.

Only on ISH dealing with Kobe stans could you find anyone thinking that the last two months of Kobe shooting 40% at an absurd volume and usage is optimal given his supporting cast. Its ****ing absurd....sorry.

Notice this fool didn't address any of the points i made but just spewed more rethoric. You can't even debate with this idiot.

Notice the nice intelligent discussion i just had with blacknapalm about the same topic.

Its that ****ing simple dmavs. Address the ****ing post. Don't go on and on about shit that ain't relevant.

Since me and blacknapalm already discussed this. there's literally no reason to even talk further on it with you.

Everyone who reads our post would understand.

Gosh gino you're an old man filled with regrets waiting to die alone. fcking get over it!

[DMAVS41]

Notice this fool didn't address any of the points i made but just spewed more rethoric. You can't even debate with this idiot.

Notice the nice intelligent discussion i just had with blacknapalm.

Its that ****ing simple dmavs. Address the ****ing post. Don't go on and on about shit that ain't relevant.

Since me and blacknapalm already discussed this. there's literally no reason to even talk further on it with you.

Everyone who reads our post would understand.

Gosh gino you're an old man filed with regrets waiting to die alone. fcking get over it!

What? I did address the points. Comparing Lebron and Kobe in terms of getting teammates involved is absurd. I can't believe even you would try and pretend otherwise. Its both shocking and sad how you clearly have no clue about players or the game.

The Lakers are better than you give them credit for. You made a huge deal out of the Suns loss...and then you just want to sweep two road victories under the rug. 1 of them the Lakers were extremely clutch in a tight game late in the 4th...and the other they trounced arguably the best team in the league right now on the road.

2 of the Lakers like 12 road wins on the year just came without Kobe. You always claim they aren't clutch and that is why Kobe jacks it up so much. Yet all the Lakers have far better clutch numbers than Kobe and just won a tight game without him. Then you say everyone is a product of Kobe and they can't do anything without him. Yet they somehow destroyed the Spurs....and Bynum/Gasol didn't even score efficiently. Could it be that playing inside out is just better? Could it be that actually playing team oriented basketball and hitting open men in rhythm is better?

Could it be? Stop confusing me with one of those morons claiming Bynum is the best player on the Lakers. I've never said that.

How about you just answer me this. Which Kobe do you want in the playoffs?

24 shots on 40% shooting or 19 shots on 47% shooting. Answer the question. Just pick one. Don't try to rationalize your pick. Just pick which guy you want in the playoffs.

[Bladers]

Here is my point.

1. Since Sessions got here. Which have been 12 games. He's averaging exactly 20 shots a game. Which is exactly what you said you wanted.

2. His FG attempts in losses is bloated because he's guaranteed to shoot 3 threes in the last 20 seconds. Because even with 0.5 seconds left losing by 10, mike brown will call a team out to set up a kobe 3.

3. Example of this is clearly seen in the houston game. 16 shots for the first 47 mins of the game. then like 3 in the last 30 secs with the game out of reach and ends up with 21. These things screw his stats because there is an extra 2-3 FG Attempt in each loss column that isn't there.

4. Kobe also takes all the bailout shots for the team, this also adds to his shot attempt.

5. Last of all In the start of the season, for the first month. Kobe was essentially playing point guard and was averaging 6.0 assists while lebron was at 6.5 So at that point even with his sucky three point shooting cast. He had relatively the same assists as Lebron.

I said that to say, If Brown ran the same offense he ran at the start of the year, Kobe would be averaging 6 assists at the moment. Because he dominated the ball at the start. He ran the point guard.

Now he doesn't and his assists took a plunge and people point to USG rating like it means anything.

Coach brown changed his offense and took Kobe off the ball even when Sessions wasn't here. Just like that Kobe's assists went down.

Now sessions is here, he is 100% playing off the ball. and He only averages 3.7 assists since sessions. Which is why his assists is low.


There were the points I'm tryig to make. It doesn't matter whether I agree or disagree with any of your beliefs. This is just the point im trying to make. Bit You insist on posting your stupid old talking points that's gotten old pretty quick. You are so predicable its not even funny.

We had this talk already, I ethered you. Why make a repeat of last time?

[LakersReign]

Notice this fool didn't address any of the points i made but just spewed more rethoric. You can't even debate with this idiot.

Notice the nice intelligent discussion i just had with blacknapalm about the same topic.

Its that ****ing simple dmavs. Address the ****ing post. Don't go on and on about shit that ain't relevant.

Since me and blacknapalm already discussed this. there's literally no reason to even talk further on it with you.

Everyone who reads our post would understand.

Gosh gino you're an old man filled with regrets waiting to die alone. fcking get over it!


dmavs is one of those people who PRETENDS to be smarter than they really are. They use a lot of big words and posts 10 paragraphs long. Hoping that people will simply just agree with whatever he says, based on solely on him saying it. And also to avoid reading his monologues. He can't ever address a point head on, cuz he always takes the position away from public opinion, to seem like he's more intelligent than everybody else. The problem with all that is, it's a harder position to defend. Therefore he has to go make sh*t up to support it. Then when you call him out on it, he throws his pathetic temper tantrums like a child, while still expecting people to take him and anything he says seriously.:facepalm

[Bladers]

What? I did address the points. Comparing Lebron and Kobe in terms of getting teammates involved is absurd. I can't believe even you would try and pretend otherwise. Its both shocking and sad how you clearly have no clue about players or the game.

The Lakers are better than you give them credit for. You made a huge deal out of the Suns loss...and then you just want to sweep two road victories under the rug. 1 of them the Lakers were extremely clutch in a tight game late in the 4th...and the other they trounced arguably the best team in the league right now on the road.

2 of the Lakers like 12 road wins on the year just came without Kobe. You always claim they aren't clutch and that is why Kobe jacks it up so much. Yet all the Lakers have far better clutch numbers than Kobe and just won a tight game without him. Then you say everyone is a product of Kobe and they can't do anything without him. Yet they somehow destroyed the Spurs....and Bynum/Gasol didn't even score efficiently. Could it be that playing inside out is just better? Could it be that actually playing team oriented basketball and hitting open men in rhythm is better?

Could it be? Stop confusing me with one of those morons claiming Bynum is the best player on the Lakers. I've never said that.

How about you just answer me this. Which Kobe do you want in the playoffs?

24 shots on 40% shooting or 19 shots on 47% shooting. Answer the question. Just pick one. Don't try to rationalize your pick. Just pick which guy you want in the playoffs.

Now that I have gotten my point across. Let's address this post.

Lakers the last two games have shot a HORRIBLE percentage. They shot 38% at half time today and was up BIG. Why? Because of their rebounding and Spurs insistance to continue to chuck threes.

You are so full of shit.

Gasol today 9 of 24...

you call that team basketball? That's more shots than Kobe.

Bynum today also 7 for 20. These are kobe numbers on a bad day.

Bynum against Suns 10 for 27.

Gasol against suns 25 shots.

Notice how this is TEAM BASKETBALL to dmavs. Chucking up 27 and 25 shots respectively.

But when Kobe does it... OHHHHHH NO!!!!!!!!!!! HE'S A BALL HOG!!

Team basketball? Go to the Lakersground. The biggest complaint about bynum is that HE IS A BLACK HOLE IN THE OFFENSE!

ONCE THE BALL IS IN HIS HAND, HE IS ONLY LOOKING TO SCORE. HE NEVER PASSES.

lol @ saying team basketball when you have a center trying to chuck up 30 shots a game.

The offense was also completely stagnant against hornets. Why don't you read the lakers blog on ESPN and actually see what the reporters were saying about the game. I will certainly hold them to a hgiher standard than you.


Team basketball? lol... in and out? lol you just got exposed.
Bynum literally never passess and every LA fan in this forum will confirm that. :roll: :roll:
Doesn't matter if its a double triple, or quad team, he will go against the grain again again and again. :oldlol:

[Lebron23]

Thank God someone invented the ignore lists feature. These trolls are the worst posters in this forum. I hope you guys have a different attitude and mindset in the real world.

[NumberSix]

Bladers

[Lebron23]

Bladers


He's a security guard. He will shoot you in the head. I think Bladers looks like Zimmerman.

[LakersReign]

Thank God someone invented the ignore lists feature. These trolls are the worst posters in this forum. I hope you guys have a different attitude and mindset in the real world.




Welcome to my Ignore Lists. Why do you hate LeBron? Did he raped your girlfriend? You are so annoying.


What? They put LeBron on the court when their opponents cut their lead. Just stop posting in this forum. I'll ready put you on my ignore lists. Ok Thanks bye.
http://insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=245407&page=4

Guess we can't all be "good posters" like you who's so stupid, you tell the same pathetic lie over and over again, expecting people to believe it. Yeah....you(lebron23) would know all about being a troll(lebron23)....wouldn't you?:roll:


OOPS!!!!:facepalm

[Lebron23]

Andrew "Da Gawd" Bynum

[DMAVS41]

Now that I have gotten my point across. Let's address this post.

Lakers the last two games have shot a HORRIBLE percentage. They shot 38% at half time today and was up BIG. Why? Because of their rebounding and Spurs insistance to continue to chuck threes.

You are so full of shit.

Gasol today 9 of 24...

you call that team basketball? That's more shots than Kobe.

Bynum today also 7 for 20. These are kobe numbers on a bad day.

Bynum against Suns 10 for 27.

Gasol against suns 25 shots.

Notice how this is TEAM BASKETBALL to dmavs. Chucking up 27 and 25 shots respectively.

But when Kobe does it... OHHHHHH NO!!!!!!!!!!! HE'S A BALL HOG!!

Team basketball? Go to the Lakersground. The biggest complaint about bynum is that HE IS A BLACK HOLE IN THE OFFENSE!

ONCE THE BALL IS IN HIS HAND, HE IS ONLY LOOKING TO SCORE. HE NEVER PASSES.

lol @ saying team basketball when you have a center trying to chuck up 30 shots a game.

The offense was also completely stagnant against hornets. Why don't you read the lakers blog on ESPN and actually see what the reporters were saying about the game. I will certainly hold them to a hgiher standard than you.


Team basketball? lol... in and out? lol you just got exposed.
Bynum literally never passess and every LA fan in this forum will confirm that. :roll: :roll:
Doesn't matter if its a double triple, or quad team, he will go against the grain again again and again. :oldlol:

Are you so dense that you can't realize that the Lakers are currently missing Kobe. Do you really not understand the difference? Kobe is chucking it up there 24 times a game with Bynum and Gasol out there as well.

That is the difference you ****ing ignorant moron. Do Gasol and Bynum take that many shots with kobe in the game? Of course not...that would be absurd. Only Kobe...the biggest ball hog in the world...does that.

Just so you know:

Bynum has taken over 20 shots...only 1 time this year
Gasol has taken over 20 shots...only 4 times this year

Bynum's 1 time was without Kobe....3 of Gasol's 4 were without Kobe

ROFL...Hulk exposed again for being a complete mother ****ing retard. Just another day.

Roasted.....

[rodman91]

Without Kobe.

Gasol : 25.3 ppg 11.0 rpg

Bynum : 19.0 ppg 19.6 rpg

Peace : 17.6 ppg

Sad days for stans. :lol

[blablabla]

Without Kobe.

Gasol : 25.3 ppg 11.0 rpg

Bynum : 19.0 ppg 19.6 rpg

Peace : 17.6 ppg

Sad days for stans. :lol
zomg players average better stats when they have the ball more
yo check boshs and wades numbers without bron
lebron is the worst player ever

[Yung D-Will]

37% without kobe.:pimp:
I love how people are using such a small sample size to determine that Bynum can't be a first option. :oldlol:

[LakersReign]

Without Kobe.

Gasol : 25.3 ppg 11.0 rpg

Bynum : 19.0 ppg 19.6 rpg

Peace : 17.6 ppg

Sad days for stans. :lol

What's really sad here is y'all are the same people who bagged on MWP when he was bricking shots. NOW....he has ONE GAME with 20+ points, and it's "ZOMG....MWP.....BIG 3....DON'T NEED KOBE"!!!!:facepalm

Hilarious:lol


I love how people are using such a small sample size to determine that Bynum can't be a first option. :oldlol:

I like how people who claim to know about basketball want to call a C who doesn't pass or turns the ball over when double teamed, a reliable first option on offense:facepalm

Absolutely hilarious:oldlol:

[Yung D-Will]

What's really sad here is y'all are the same people who bagged on MWP when he was bricking shots. NOW....he has ONE GAME with 20+ points, and it's "ZOMG....MWP.....BIG 3....DON'T NEED KOBE"!!!!:facepalm

Hilarious:lol
But Bynum has like 2 bad games and it's "o he can't score without Kobe, can't be a first option!"

[LakersReign]

But Bynum has like 2 bad games and it's "o he can't score without Kobe, can't be a first option!"

Child please. Like I said before, a lot of y'all were the same ones bagging on MWP for bricking shots in way more than just one game. But he has one good game and all of a sudden the Lakers don't need Kobe....right? GTFOH!!!! Pau had more points than Bynum did the other night, so what's your excuse for that one? Please keep trying to make a point where there is none to be made:facepalm



Try again:no:

[Yung D-Will]

Child please. Pau had more points than Bynum did the other night, so what's your excuse for that one? Please keep trying to make a point where there is none to be made:facepalm



Try again:no:
Excuse? He had a bad game. What's your point?

I'm saying you can't use a small sample size to determine Bynum can't score without Kobe the same way you can't use a small sample size to say Artest is much better without Kobe :biggums:

[LakersReign]

Excuse? He had a bad game. What's your point?

I'm saying you can't use a small sample size to determine Bynum can't score without Kobe the same way you can't use a small sample size to say Artest is much better without Kobe :biggums:

Please keep grasping at straws child. Your supposed logic here, if you can call it that, makes absolutely no sense. MWP has a few good games out of like 30, and all of a sudden, the Lakers don't need Kobe? I guess the thought never occurred to you that if he was this consistent early on in the season, the Lakers wouldn't be the 3rd seed going into the playoffs...huh? GTFOH!!!! You CLEARLY have no clue of what you're talking about. Just on here to hate on Kobe, like all brainless Kobe haters. Stop embarrassing yourself:facepalm

[rodman91]

Stans going mad because all these time they were using Kobe's teammates can't play argument. Now it's proven wrong.

Gasol & Bynum plays like Kevin Mchale & Moses Malone :lol Even Metta World Peace plays like formerself.

[Yung D-Will]

Please keep grasping at straws child. Your supposed logic here, if you can call it that, makes absolutely no sense. You CLEARLY have no clue of what you're talking about. Just on here to hate on Kobe, like all brainless Kobe haters. Stop embarrassing yourself:facepalm
What have I posted that implies I'm a Kobe hater ever on this forum?:oldlol:


I'll break it down simply. Anyone saying players on the Lakers are much more effective without the ball in Kobe hands after a couple of games is most likely basing his thoughts on a small sample size which never works out. Just like people claiming Bynum can't be a first option after a small sample size are equally retarded, same thing with people claiming Artest is much more dominant without the ball in Kobe's hand.

[LakersReign]

What have I posted that implies I'm a Kobe hater ever on this forum?:oldlol:


I'll break it down simply. Anyone saying players on the Lakers are much more effective without the ball in Kobe hands after a couple of games is most likely basing his thoughts on a small sample size which never works out. Just like people claiming Bynum can't be a first option after a small sample size are equally retarded, same thing with people claiming Artest is much more dominant without the ball in Kobe's hand.

Please.:rolleyes:

You CLEARLY don't watch Laker games, and only Kobe haters bring up this ABSURD nonsense about Bynum being a first option on offense when he's CONSISTENTLY shown a pattern of not being able to handle the responsibility. Yeah...a reliable first option who makes stupid fouls(flagrants) for no real reason. Not to mention one who doesn't pass, or makes stupid turnovers when pressured in double teams.:sleeping


Try again:no:

[Yung D-Will]

Please.:rolleyes:

You CLEARLY don't watch Laker games, and only Kobe haters bring up this ABSURD nonsense about Bynum being a first option on offense when he's CONSISTENTLY shown a pattern of not being able to handle the responsibility.:sleeping


Try again:no:

It's amazing how you continue to miss the point of my post.:facepalm


Let me make it simpler.. You can't make major determinations of what a player can or can't do it an extremely small sample size.

:biggums:

[LakersReign]

It's amazing how you continue to miss the point of my post.:facepalm


Let me make it simpler.. You can't make major determinations of what a player can or can't do it an extremely small sample size.

:biggums:

Yeah...an extremely small sample size like MOST of this season and ALL of last season and the playoffs. Where they were eliminated in the second round, cuz this supposed "great" first option you're referring to disappeared? The only person here missing a point is CLEARLY you:facepalm



Try again:no:

[Yung D-Will]

Yeah...an extremely small sample size like MOST of this season and ALL of last season and the playoffs where they were eliminated in the second round. Cuz this supposed first option you're referring to disappeared?:facepalm



Try again:no:

When did I call him a first option? I said people claiming he can't be a first option based on 2-3 games he played without Kobe doesn't make sense.

Lol in your mind you've completely determined I'm an anti-kobe poster because I don't see the importance of small sample size's in determining which players play better with/without Kobe.

[LakersReign]

When did I call him a first option? I said people claiming he can't be a first option based on 2-3 games he played without Kobe doesn't make sense.

Lol in your mind you've completely determined I'm an anti-kobe poster because I don't see the importance of small sample size's in determining which players play better with/without Kobe.


Of course you didn't call Bynum a first option....of course not....of course:rolleyes:

Which means you're admitting to being a Kobe hater posting just to hate on Kobe like I said before. It's either one, or the other. You choose:facepalm



Try again:no:

[Yung D-Will]

Of course you didn't cal Bynum a first option....of course:rolleyes:

Which means you're admitting to being a kobe hater posting just to hate on Kobe like I said before. Can't have it both ways:facepalm



Try again:no:

Please explain this logic to me. Because I'm posting that I don't care about a small sample size makes me a Kobe hater? :biggums:

Yes I can have it both ways. And my both ways is that '
1. I don't think you can determine players on the Lakers play better without Kobe

2. I don't think you can determine players on the Lakers play worse without Kobe


After a small sample size.

:sleeping

[LakersReign]

Please explain this logic to me. Because I'm posting that I don't care about a small sample size makes me a Kobe hater? :biggums:

Yes I can have it both ways. And my both ways is that '
1. I don't think you can determine players on the Lakers play better without Kobe

2. I don't think you can determine players on the Lakers play worse without Kobe


After a small sample size.

:sleeping



I love how people are using such a small sample size to determine that Bynum can't be a first option. :oldlol: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=259307&page=9

But remember now, he just said he never said anything about Bynum being a first option.:hammerhead:


Nice try:applause:

[Yung D-Will]

But remember now, he just said he never said anything about Bynum being a first option.:hammerhead:


Nice try:applause:
That's the same thing I just said.

It's laughable to claim Bynum can't be a first option because of a small sample size.

Which is the same reason it's laughable to say everyone on the Lakers play better with Kobe.

As I just stated.

[LakersReign]

That's the same thing I just said.

It's laughable to claim Bynum can't be a first option because of a small sample size.

Which is the same reason it's laughable to say everyone on the Lakers play better with Kobe.

As I just stated.


I love how people are using such a small sample size to determine that Bynum can't be a first option. :oldlol: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=259307&page=9



When did I call him a first option? I said people claiming he can't be a first option based on 2-3 games he played without Kobe doesn't make sense.

Lol in your mind you've completely determined I'm an anti-kobe poster because I don't see the importance of small sample size's in determining which players play better with/without Kobe.

Contradicting yourself there child.:facepalm



Nice try:applause:

[Yung D-Will]

Contradicting yourself there child.:facepalm



Nice try:applause:

I love how people are using such a small sample size to determine that Bynum can't be a first option.


This is not the same as this


Bynum can be a first option


Reading comprehension.

[LakersReign]

This is not the same as this


Bynum can be a first option


Reading comprehension.


....which you CLEARLY lack...and that exactly why you said this:


When did I call him a first option? I said people claiming he can't be a first option based on 2-3 games he played without Kobe doesn't make sense.

Lol in your mind you've completely determined I'm an anti-kobe poster because I don't see the importance of small sample size's in determining which players play better with/without Kobe.

....contradicting yourself:facepalm



Nice try:applause:

[Yung D-Will]

....which you CLEARLY lack...and that exactly why you said this:



Nice try:applause:


Yes I said when did I call him a first option. Because I never stated he's a first option.


:coleman:

Simple comprehension.

[chips93]

This is not the same as this


Bynum can be a first option


Reading comprehension.

you're wasting your time arguing with this kid.

hes among the densest posters here.

[Yung D-Will]

you're wasting your time arguing with this kid.

hes among the densest posters here.

I've realized

:coleman:

[LakersReign]

Yes I said when did I call him a first option. Because I never stated he's a first option.


:coleman:

Simple comprehension.


....which you CLEARLY DO NOT have since this:

I love how people are using such a small sample size to determine that Bynum can't be a first option. :oldlol: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=259307&page=9

was your first post. Then you contradicted yourself and started flip flopping, when you realized you made yourself look stupid. Further proving you had no real point here to begin with, just like I've been saying the whole time.:facepalm


Nice try:applause:

[rodman91]

Bynum can be first option. He has Dwight Howard stats this year and he is more skilled scorer. 2nd best center in the league for sure.

It's not about Kobe,Rose,Wade or Lebron. If your team has 7 foot monster with such talent, he can be first option. It is franchise/coach's decision.

I like that Kobe can't play now because it made the line between Kobe stans and Lakers fans more obvious.

[Godzuki]

lakersreign is a complete kobe homer moron. if there is a worst of the worst of kobe homers its that fool :facepalm kid sits there refreshing reply every second when you're arguing with him probably frothing at the mouth and shaking he's so pressed, calls people immature and angry when he's as much a bitter lil kid as there is, and does what a lot of kobe homers do in sheltering themselves with other kobe fans to validate their almighty kobe God retard thinking...

its like a cult of kobe worshipping retards, and lakersreign is their constantly buttraped altar boy.

[Godzuki]

you're wasting your time arguing with this kid.

hes among the densest posters here.


i agree with this coattail riding gimp for once ^^

[niko]

He doesn't do this every game and he's a complete immature dumbass. I don't care if people want to call him the best player, he can't be the #1 option and everything run through him till he decides not to be an immature dumbass most of the time.

[Godzuki]

....which you CLEARLY DO NOT have since this:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=259307&page=9

was your first post. Then you contradicted yourself and started flip flopping, when you realized you made yourself look stupid. Further proving you had no real point here to begin with, just like I've been saying the whole time.:facepalm


Nice try:applause:

just stfu idiot :facepalm

[Godzuki]

He doesn't do this every game and he's a complete immature dumbass. I don't care if people want to call him the best player, he can't be the #1 option and everything run through him till he decides not to be an immature dumbass most of the time.


kobe isn't the greatest #1 option either. y'all act like Kobe never misses or had bad games, or doesn't live and die by his mid range J, like an old MJ....where he shoots them out of it WAY more than Bynum ever has. who cares if he hits game winners against the worst teams in the league afterall he's a big reason why the other team came back with his missed chucks.

not saying Kobe can't and shouldn't be a #1 at times when he's feeling it, but to act like Bynum can't ever be, and imply that Kobe is so far above is laughable. this double standard of kobe vs everyone else is so stupid. Kobe has gotten over 20+ shots all season dominating the ball and chucking...3 games of Bynum where he's up and down, and now Bynum can't be #1 option? please :facepalm

oh and Bynum's immaturity is just a part of his personality, you take the good with the bad. just like Kobe and his narcissism where its all about him, not the team, sometimes. its funny how Kobe rarely gets flack for that.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

I defend logic. Would I need to defend logic if you and your kind weren't shitting in every thread?

Defending logic =/= Kobe exempt from criticism?

Like I said, grow the f*ck up.

[Bladers]

Are you so dense that you can't realize that the Lakers are currently missing Kobe. Do you really not understand the difference? Kobe is chucking it up there 24 times a game with Bynum and Gasol out there as well.

That is the difference you ****ing ignorant moron. Do Gasol and Bynum take that many shots with kobe in the game? Of course not...that would be absurd. Only Kobe...the biggest ball hog in the world...does that.

Just so you know:

Bynum has taken over 20 shots...only 1 time this year
Gasol has taken over 20 shots...only 4 times this year

Bynum's 1 time was without Kobe....3 of Gasol's 4 were without Kobe

ROFL...Hulk exposed again for being a complete mother ****ing retard. Just another day.

Roasted.....


Could it be that playing inside out is just better? Could it be that actually playing team oriented basketball and hitting open men in rhythm is better?

I will repeat my post since you didn't address none of it. You change topic faster than people can shuffle a deck. I won't let you get away with it this time. Save your rant for someone else.
Lets discuss this post.


Now that I have gotten my point across. Let's address this post.

Lakers the last two games have shot a HORRIBLE percentage. They shot 38% at half time today and was up BIG. Why? Because of their rebounding and Spurs insistance to continue to chuck threes.

You are so full of shit.

Gasol today 9 of 24...

you call that team basketball? That's more shots than Kobe.

Bynum today also 7 for 20. These are kobe numbers on a bad day.

Bynum against Suns 10 for 27.

Gasol against suns 25 shots.

Notice how this is TEAM BASKETBALL to dmavs. Chucking up 27 and 25 shots respectively.

But when Kobe does it... OHHHHHH NO!!!!!!!!!!! HE'S A BALL HOG!!

Team basketball? Go to the Lakersground. The biggest complaint about bynum is that HE IS A BLACK HOLE IN THE OFFENSE!

ONCE THE BALL IS IN HIS HAND, HE IS ONLY LOOKING TO SCORE. HE NEVER PASSES.

lol @ saying team basketball when you have a center trying to chuck up 30 shots a game.

The offense was also completely stagnant against hornets. Why don't you read the lakers blog on ESPN and actually see what the reporters were saying about the game. I will certainly hold them to a hgiher standard than you.


Team basketball? lol... in and out? lol you just got exposed.
Bynum literally never passess and every LA fan in this forum will confirm that. :roll: :roll:
Doesn't matter if its a double triple, or quad team, he will go against the grain again again and again. :oldlol:

[KingBeasley08]

You say that like its a bad thing...I'd tear her shit up.
Its not a bad thing... Im saying kid needs to get laid

[Godzuki]

I will repeat my post since you didn't address none of it. You change topic faster than people can shuffle a deck. I won't let you get away with it this time. Save your rant for someone else.
Lets discuss this post.


Now that I have gotten my point across. Let's address this post.

Lakers the last two games have shot a HORRIBLE percentage. They shot 38% at half time today and was up BIG. Why? Because of their rebounding and Spurs insistance to continue to chuck threes.

You are so full of shit.

Gasol today 9 of 24...

you call that team basketball? That's more shots than Kobe.

Bynum today also 7 for 20. These are kobe numbers on a bad day.

Bynum against Suns 10 for 27.

Gasol against suns 25 shots.

Notice how this is TEAM BASKETBALL to dmavs. Chucking up 27 and 25 shots respectively.

But when Kobe does it... OHHHHHH NO!!!!!!!!!!! HE'S A BALL HOG!!

Team basketball? Go to the Lakersground. The biggest complaint about bynum is that HE IS A BLACK HOLE IN THE OFFENSE!

ONCE THE BALL IS IN HIS HAND, HE IS ONLY LOOKING TO SCORE. HE NEVER PASSES.

lol @ saying team basketball when you have a center trying to chuck up 30 shots a game.

The offense was also completely stagnant against hornets. Why don't you read the lakers blog on ESPN and actually see what the reporters were saying about the game. I will certainly hold them to a hgiher standard than you.


Team basketball? lol... in and out? lol you just got exposed.
Bynum literally never passess and every LA fan in this forum will confirm that. :roll: :roll:
Doesn't matter if its a double triple, or quad team, he will go against the grain again again and again. :oldlol:

bynum's been passing out a lot more of late than he did earlier in the year. stop BS'ing people fool and dogging your teams players just to prop kobe :facepalm

[KingBeasley08]

Even though Kobe is the best player on the Lakers, I gotta say Kobe stans are pathetic. You'd think everyone on their team other than da Gawd sucks even though they're balling without him

[Son_of_Prince]

Obviously, Kobe is the best player in the league. This thread is just trying to trick people into thinking he's not.

[LakersReign]

It's all they really can do since anybody who really knows anything about basketball doesn't take them or anything they say seriously. All they have against Kobe is nothing but hypotheticals, what if's and innuendo. Mixed with b.s. stats that nobody really cares about. Trying to INSIST on Bynum supposedly being better without Kobe is just the height of stupidity.:facepalm

[rodman91]

Kobe stans accusing Bynum to be ball hog and chucker. God (Kobe) has good sense of humor. :roll:

[Bladers]

bynum's been passing out a lot more of late than he did earlier in the year. stop BS'ing people fool and dogging your teams players just to prop kobe :facepalm

Is that why Mike Brown was barking at him for not passing the ball at the end of the half? Even the spurs commentators said it.

He was like 6 for 17 at half time... on pace for 34 shots. :oldlol:

Guess what? When MB got done with him, the message stuck. He took only 3 shots in the second half

[Lebron23]

All NBA Second Team this season

Next Year All NBA First Team when the Lakers trades the 34 yrs.old ball hog.

[Whoah10115]

OP doesn't like me anymore. But my feelings aren't as hurt as they'd usually be, as the OP...:roll:

[Legends66NBA7]

All NBA Second Team this season

You sure about that ?

He wins that scoring title and he's a lock for All-NBA First Team.

[PickernRoller]

You sure about that ?

He wins that scoring title and he's a lock for All-NBA First Team.

WTF does it matter anyway? When you have a choker winning MVP's who gives a sh1t. The only two trophies that matter in today's league are FMVP and a Championship RING!!!

[StateOfMind12]

You sure about that ?

He wins that scoring title and he's a lock for All-NBA First Team.
He is referring to Andrew Bynum, even your idiot butt buddy RRR3 would have knew that.


He doesn't do this every game and he's a complete immature dumbass. I don't care if people want to call him the best player, he can't be the #1 option and everything run through him till he decides not to be an immature dumbass most of the time.
You don't have to be the #1 option on your team to be the best player on the team.