Current Kevin Durant vs. Prime Tracy McGrady

[tmacman]

Who's Better...?

I say Prime T-Mac. Dude was just explosive as fcuk, and had the touch that nobody else in the league besides Kobe had. Was arguably the best all-around player at the time as well. Crazy how so much talent can go to waste in a matter of a couple years....

[StateOfMind12]

I'll take the one that got his team out of the 1st round and isn't a choking cancerous loser. If you didn't know the answer by now, the answer is Kevin Durant.

[Bigsmoke]

tough one.

i would ride or die with KD.

[tmacman]

I'll take the one that got his team out of the 1st round and isn't a choking cancerous loser. If you didn't know the answer by now, the answer is Kevin Durant.
:confusedshrug:

Looks at title of thread*....

Talking about "Prime" here genius. Not his Houston, New York, Detroit, Atlanta days. :oldlol:

[Dbrog]

mmm...both can score at bunches. TMac is better slasher/playmaker while KD is better shooter/off-ball player. Both can play elite defense at times. I give TMac the edge for being a better overall player. Hell, he acted as PG on some of those teams.

[Punpun]

One NEVER went out of the first round. The other went to the WCF. All is said.

[StateOfMind12]

:confusedshrug:

Looks at title of thread*....

Talking about "Prime" here genius. Not his Houston, New York, Detroit, Atlanta days. :oldlol:
Lets see, Tmac still didn't get past the 1st round in his "prime" and he was still a choking loser that was a locker room problem. I don't know why people think this is close, it isn't.

Tmac was better than Durant at like two things, ball-handling and playmaking. Durant was better than Tmac in everything else and by a lot.

[D-Wade316]

Prime T-Mac would shit on KD.

[tmacman]

Lets see, Tmac still didn't get past the 1st round in his "prime" and he was still a choking loser that was a locker room problem. I don't know why people think this is close, it isn't.
Locker room problem? Where did you get that from? Your ass? I thought so. Funny thing is...he should'nt have even made the playoffs with that Magic team, but he single handedly carried those scrubs. Guys like Andrew DeClerq, Gordan Giricek, Drew Gooden, Darrell Armstrong, Overweight Shawn Kemp, Horace Grant even? :oldlol:


Tmac was better than Durant at like two things, ball-handling and playmaking. Durant was better than Tmac in everything else and by a lot.
Hmmm.. lets see.

Scoring = McGrady
Rebounding = Durant
Playmaking = McGrady
Shooting = About equal, Durant with the edge on 3pt shooting, and Mcgrady on midrange.

By alot? Quit talking outta your ass and face reality. :oldlol:

[SilkkTheShocker]

Prime Tmac was still a loser.

[pauk]

T-Mac

[Bigsmoke]

Locker room problem? Where did you get that from? Your ass? I thought so. Funny thing is...he should'nt have even made the playoffs with that Magic team, but he single handedly carried those scrubs. Guys like Andrew DeClerq, Gordan Giricek, Drew Gooden, Darrell Armstrong, Overweight Shawn Kemp, Horace Grant even? :oldlol:


Scoring = McGrady
Rebounding = Durant
Playmaking = McGrady
Shooting = About equal, Durant with the edge on 3pt shooting, and Mcgrady on midrange.
By alot? Quit talking outta your ass and face reality. :oldlol:

:oldlol:

Thats KD ALL ****ING DAY

[StateOfMind12]

Locker room problem? Where did you get that from? Your ass? I thought so. Funny thing is...he should'nt have even made the playoffs with that Magic team, but he single handedly carried those scrubs. Guys like Andrew DeClerq, Gordan Giricek, Drew Gooden, Darrell Armstrong, Overweight Shawn Kemp, Horace Grant even? :oldlol:
Tmac would quit on his team, blame his teammates for his failures, in his prime and in Houston he would do it.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1105328/3/index.htm


He pauses as if he is hearing his own words. "Some nights I did slack off--and I knew that was a terrible thing to do--and I still was slacking off. That feels so bad. And I'm the leader, these guys are following my lead, so the whole team suffers even worse. That was wrong. Now I would do it differently. I learned. I have to bust my butt no matter what. Last year was the worst experience of my life. And I learned. And believe me, I'm grateful for this opportunity here."

Sounds like a winner.




Hmmm.. lets see.

Scoring = McGrady
Rebounding = Durant
Playmaking = McGrady
Shooting = About equal, Durant with the edge on 3pt shooting, and Mcgrady on midrange.

By alot? Quit talking outta your ass and face reality. :oldlol:
McGrady was a better scorer? :oldlol:

I'll take the guy that can score on similar volume with much higher efficiency. They both score around 27-30 ppg but Durant shoots a TS% over 60% and a FG% of 50% while Tmac shoots like a TS% that is less than 55% and a FG that is less than 45%.

Shooter? :roll:

I love how you ignore defense too, it's not like it is half of the game or something either.

[kenny817]

Prime T-Mac would shit on KD.

this

[Dbrog]

Lets see, Tmac still didn't get past the 1st round in his "prime" and he was still a choking loser that was a locker room problem. I don't know why people think this is close, it isn't.

Tmac was better than Durant at like two things, ball-handling and playmaking. Durant was better than Tmac in everything else and by a lot.

People definitely say he choked against the Pistons after being up 3-1...but look at his roster. Gooden was the 2nd best player by a wide margin. 3rd maybe Giricek or Armstrong :confusedshrug: . I don't remember him and Hill even playing a game in the playoffs together on the Magic. If they did, Hill was not close to 100%. Wasn't like the 2001 roster was much better (a bit more help w/ Outlaw and Mike Miller). I mean, what did you honestly expect from this man? He was averaging Jordanesc playoff numbers. Would you discredit KG for the times he got knocked out early?

[StateOfMind12]

People definitely say he choked against the Pistons after being up 3-1...but look at his roster. Gooden was the 2nd best player by a wide margin. 3rd maybe Giricek or Armstrong :confusedshrug: . I don't remember him and Hill even playing a game in the playoffs together on the Magic. If they did, Hill was not close to 100%. Wasn't like the 2001 roster was much better (a bit more help w/ Outlaw and Mike Miller). I mean, what did you honestly expect from this man? He was averaging Jordanesc playoff numbers.
I don't think you know how Tmac went down in those last 3 games of that series. Tmac after Game 4 said that it felt good to finally get past the 1st round and he cruised for rest of the series. Tmac played poorly in games 5-7, and he went down like a bitch. It is nothing like Kobe in 2006 if that was what you are referring to because Kobe actually did something or tried to do something from games 5-7 when he was up 3-1.

Jordan-esque playoff numbers? Are you ****ing kidding me? MJ shot like 50-55% from the playoffs. Tmac? He shot like 37-42% and I'm not even bringing up TS% yet where it really hurts Tmac.

[ralph_i_el]

pure skills it's almost a wash at this point. Maybe give Tmac the edge by a hair. He was just so amazing to watch

but durant still has a chance to go deep in the playoffs as the man, something Tmac never did. I guess he just didn't have the heart

[tmacman]

Tmac would quit on his team, blame his teammates for his failures, in his prime and in Houston he would do it.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1105328/3/index.htm




Sounds like a winner.
So so so so because he was locker room trouble to a team, we're expected to take that away from what he did individually for that team? It's crazy what some people take into account when comparing individual players. I'm asking who the better player was you dolt. And for the most part, its McGrady. I could care less how he act off the court, and in the locker room. :oldlol:



McGrady was a better scorer? :oldlol:
Easily.


I'll take the guy that can score on similar volume with much higher efficiency. They both score around 27-30 ppg but Durant shoots a TS% over 60% and a FG% of 50% while Tmac shoots like a TS% that is less than 55% and a FG that is less than 45%.
What the ****'s a TS? I'll take the guy that can single handedly take over a game, and also fairly consistant while also operating a team offense.


Shooter? :roll:
Laughing it off like you have something to prove. :oldlol: McGrady is easily the better shooter. Slasher by a wide ass margin.


I love how you ignore defense too, it's not like it is half of the game or something either.
You're acting like KD is some sort of god on D. :oldlol:

[Thechosen1]

tmac was at some point the best scorer (in terms of complete arsenal) since MJ in his prime....tmac is probably the biggest disappointment in terms of superstar legendary potential not met ever...

[StateOfMind12]

So so so so because he was locker room trouble to a team, we're expected to take that away from what he did individually for that team? It's crazy what some people take into account when comparing individual players. I'm asking who the better player was you dolt. And for the most part, its McGrady. I could care less how he act off the court, and in the locker room. :oldlol:
Yes, because intangibles, leadership, etc. has absolutely no importance in the game of basketball or in sports in general. It is all just about talent and skills, something that Tmac doesn't even have over Durant. :oldlol:




What the ****'s a TS? I'll take the guy that can single handedly take over a game, and also fairly consistant while also operating a team offense.
Combines FG%, 3P%, and FT% in one stat. It's not Durant's fault he was an elite FT shooter while Tmac was a below average one. It's also not Durant's fault that he had a much better shot selection than Tmac did.



Laughing it off like you have something to prove. :oldlol: McGrady is easily the better shooter. Slasher by a wide ass margin.
McGrady was a better shooter which is why he never even shot 46% in his career while for the past 3 years Durant has shot a FG% of 46% or higher for the past 3 years. That makes total sense.

Do you even have evidence that backs up Tmac being a better shooter?



You're acting like KD is some sort of god on D. :oldlol:
He is a god on D......compared to Tmac.

[ralph_i_el]

So so so so because he was locker room trouble to a team, we're expected to take that away from what he did individually for that team? It's crazy what some people take into account when comparing individual players. I'm asking who the better player was you dolt. And for the most part, its McGrady. I could care less how he act off the court, and in the locker room. :oldlol:



Easily.


What the ****'s a TS? I'll take the guy that can single handedly take over a game, and also fairly consistant while also operating a team offense.


Laughing it off like you have something to prove. :oldlol: McGrady is easily the better shooter. Slasher by a wide ass margin.


You're acting like KD is some sort of god on D. :oldlol:


Durant is shooting ~50% on deep 2's this season. He's a goddamn shooting savant. Tmac was a better slasher imo, and a much better passer. Not a better shooter

[dunksby]

Stop glorifying TMac, dude was an amazing player to watch in his prime but he has nothin on Durant.

[Velocirap31]

Prime T-Mac would shit on KD.

Agreed. Fans over the age of 18 should know this.

[konex]

T-Mac and it's not really close. Much better play-maker and ball-handler. Better scorer too...

[tmacman]

Yes, because intangibles, leadership, etc. has absolutely no importance in the game of basketball or in sports in general. It is all just about talent and skills, something that Tmac doesn't even have over Durant. :oldlol:
Durant is a more a talented a skill player than Prime T-Mac?

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:



Combines FG%, 3P%, and FT% in one stat. It's not Durant's fault he was an elite FT shooter while Tmac was a below average one. It's also not Durant's fault that he had a much better shot selection than Tmac did.
Below average? Dude was hovering around 80% most of his prime you ****ing idiot. :roll:


McGrady was a better shooter which is why he never even shot 46% in his career while for the past 3 years Durant has shot a FG% of 46% or higher for the past 3 years. That makes total sense.
That doesn't determine the better shooter. Is LeBron a better shooter than Durant because he shoots it at about 53%? Good logic. I guess in your case yes. LeBron > Durant in terms of shooting.


Do you even have evidence that backs up Tmac being a better shooter?
Yeah, if you watched him play, which i assume you havent once, then you'd know he was the better shooter. Every thing revolves around percentages for kids like you. :roll:



He is a god on D......compared to Tmac.
Nice overall argument. Props brah.

Now tell me, did McGrady **** your sister or mother? Which is it? Or was it both?

[tmacman]

And the majority think McGrady was the better player. And they're right. So your opinion isn't valid at all. :oldlol:

[Dbrog]

I don't think you know how Tmac went down in those last 3 games of that series. Tmac after Game 4 said that it felt good to finally get past the 1st round and he cruised for rest of the series. Tmac played poorly in games 5-7, and he went down like a bitch. It is nothing like Kobe in 2006 if that was what you are referring to because Kobe actually did something or tried to do something from games 5-7 when he was up 3-1.

Jordan-esque playoff numbers? Are you ****ing kidding me? MJ shot like 50-55% from the playoffs. Tmac? He shot like 37-42% and I'm not even bringing up TS% yet where it really hurts Tmac.

Jordan also had way more help and thus had more room to work. However, I'm not in any way saying Tmac was on Jordan's level...more like a Jordan-lite.

Also, went down like a bitch? Really? 19/8/4/3, 37/11/5/2, 21/6/5. Those aren't bad games. Yes Tmac struggled a lot going 1 on 5 vs the pistons defense. That's still pretty damn impressive...at least he went down shooting. Btw, what other options did he have? Yes his FG% was low, but look at his team %s for those 3 gms: 32%, 39.5%, and 42%.

Edit: You never answered. Do you also discredit KG for his 1st round failures?

[LBJMVP]

T-Mac. he was my favorite player for for while.... wish he didn't get hurt. he was flat out insane for a while.

[PickernRoller]

As of right now with current KD I'll say Prime Tmac. I don't see this staying true in the next 2-3 years for sure. KD has so much room to improve over what he has already accomplished - top notch potential. Just for that fact you could say KD over Tmac...

[D-Wade316]

Wade, Lebron, Kobe, and T-Mac all have better primes than Durant. It's not really close.

Edit: Nash and CP3 too.

[miggyme1]

Lets see, Tmac still didn't get past the 1st round in his "prime" and he was still a choking loser that was a locker room problem. I don't know why people think this is close, it isn't.

Tmac was better than Durant at like two things, ball-handling and playmaking. Durant was better than Tmac in everything else and by a lot.


JUST SHUT UP CUZ U JUST EXPOSED YOURSELF.TMAC ATTACKS THE BASKET BETTER THAN KD AND I HAVE SEEN TMAC TAKE A GARBAGE TEAM AND ALMOST BEAT A REALLY GOOD PISTONS TEAM IN THE PLAYOFFS BY HIMSELF.DURANT AINT START WINNING AND GETTIN TO THE PLAYOFFS UNTIL HE GOT WESTBROOK AND HARDEN.AND THEY STILL WOULDNT BE ALL THAT GOOD IF THEY DIDNT MAKE THAT BLOCKBUSTER TRADE TO GET PERKINS!SO PLEASE GO CHECK THE FACTS AND STOP LIVING IN THE MOMENT.NEXT U GONNA BE SAYING WESTBROOK IS BETTER THAN AI.ONLY THING I GIVE KD OVER TMAC HIS THE JUMPSHOT AND THATS STILL VERY CLOSE

[Fudge]

Considering that they're my two favorite players atm (yes a washed up T-Mac who get no PT whatsover is still one of my fav players) and im basing this mainly because i've watched a lot of both ever since they came into the league, i gotta go with Prime Tracy. Just one of those players that you had to watch to really be amazed.

[Fudge]

I think Durant's prime will last much longer though. His game is built around jumpers. Dude's still gonna make a living 10 years down. Better prime = McGrady. Better career (already) = Durant easily.

[Dbrog]

I think Durant's prime will last much longer though. His game is built around jumpers. Dude's still gonna make a living 10 years down. Better prime = McGrady. Better career (already) = Durant easily.

Yup, oldman Durant = oldman Ray Allen. They actually have a lot in common. People forget how Ray could cut to and finish around the basket when he was young. Durant obviously has more physical gifts though.

[Velocirap31]

Tmac goes on fire in this game. Brings the magic back from a terrible start.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6ihr-A-6dE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpuQqTHNYOM&feature=relmfu

[blablabla]

T Mac was better

[StateOfMind12]

Also, went down like a bitch? Really? 19/8/4/3, 37/11/5/2, 21/6/5. Those aren't bad games. Yes Tmac struggled a lot going 1 on 5 vs the pistons defense. That's still pretty damn impressive...at least he went down shooting. Btw, what other options did he have? Yes his FG% was low, but look at his team %s for those 3 gms: 32%, 39.5%, and 42%.

What was Tmac's FG% in the 2003 series from Games 5 to 7?

You don't know?

Here...

Game 5 - 8/20 - 40%
Game 6 - 11/28 - 39.3%
Game 7 - 7/24 - 29.2%

Yes, he went down like a bitch. Two of those three games he had more FGA than points.



Edit: You never answered. Do you also discredit KG for his 1st round failures?
Did KG ever blow a 3-1 lead? KG has won every series he was favorite in. The only series Tmac was ever favored in was in 2007, where he choked like a bitch and got shut down by Derek Fisher in that series. He shot like a FG% of 39% and a TS% less than 50% which is horribly inefficient.



Below average? Dude was hovering around 80% most of his prime you ****ing idiot.
He shot 79% from the FT line in two seasons, every other season was worse than that which overall made him a below average FT shooter.


That doesn't determine the better shooter. Is LeBron a better shooter than Durant because he shoots it at about 53%? Good logic. I guess in your case yes. LeBron > Durant in terms of shooting.
No, because LeBron's scored most of his points from transition, attacking the basket, etc. Durant scores most of his points from jump shots so it isn't related.



Yeah, if you watched him play, which i assume you havent once, then you'd know he was the better shooter. Every thing revolves around percentages for kids like you.
Good evidence, I'm suppose to take a pro-Tmac opinion seriously from a kid with a username named tmacman. Sounds legit.


And the majority think McGrady was the better player. And they're right. So your opinion isn't valid at all. :oldlol:
So what was the point of this thread if you already knew the answer to this question? :confusedshrug:

[Scholar]

Wade, Lebron, Kobe, and T-Mac all have better primes than Durant. It's not really close.

Edit: Nash and CP3 too.

Kevin Durant is only 23. I'm pretty sure he's not even in his prime yet. Nice try, though. :rolleyes:

[Dbrog]

What was Tmac's FG% in the 2003 series from Games 5 to 7?

You don't know?

Here...

Game 5 - 8/20 - 40%
Game 6 - 11/28 - 39.3%
Game 7 - 7/24 - 29.2%

Yes, he went down like a bitch. Two of those three games he had more FGA than points.


Did KG ever blow a 3-1 lead? KG has won every series he was favorite in. The only series Tmac was ever favored in was in 2007, where he choked like a bitch and got shut down by Derek Fisher in that series. He shot like a FG% of 39% and a TS% less than 50% which is horribly inefficient.

This is why I posted his team %s. They blew *******. What else was he supposed to do other than go down shooting? Also, prime TMac was NEVER favored in a series so how is that different from KG?

[StateOfMind12]

This is why I posted his team %s. They blew *******. What else was he supposed to do other than go down shooting?
For a guy that is supposedly a better scorer than Kevin Durant, he could make his shots? :confusedshrug: And make them........efficiently? But we all know that isn't possible since Tmac was about as inefficient as they came.


Also, prime TMac was NEVER favored in a series so how is that different from KG?
KG never blew a series lead especially a margin as big as 3-1. Plus, Tmac could have easily won the 2002 playoff series since he played a Hornets team that was without Jamal Mashburn. Tmac just got outplayed by Baron Davis in the clutch. Tmac has had his chances in Orlando and in Houston and he blew all of it.

[D-Wade316]

Kevin Durant is only 23. I'm pretty sure he's not even in his prime yet. Nice try, though. :rolleyes:
He's in his prime. Are you kiddin' me? :oldlol:

[Fudge]

He's in his prime. Are you kiddin' me? :oldlol:
No he's not. The hell.. :oldlol:

[Dbrog]

For a guy that is supposedly a better scorer than Kevin Durant, he could make his shots? :confusedshrug: And make them........efficiently? But we all know that isn't possible since Tmac was about as inefficient as they came.


KG never blew a series lead especially a margin as big as 3-1. Plus, Tmac could have easily won the 2002 playoff series since he played a Hornets team that was without Jamal Mashburn. Tmac just got outplayed by Baron Davis in the clutch. Tmac has had his chances in Orlando and in Houston and he blew all of it.

Since, you know, Tracy shot about 45% in his prime and Durant shoots around 47%. TWO WHOLE PERCENTAGE POINTS :lol

If you wanna talk playoffs, Tmac prime was still around 45% which is about what Durant shot last year. If you wanna bring up Durant's first playoffs, he was at 35% wheras Tmac started off at 38%. ZOMG the efficiency :P

Anyway, I agree with him blowing the Charlotte series. Then again, his team couldn't play defense to save their lives...not his fault. Anyway, I already know there's no convincing you so I'll just stop here...

Btw, Fudge brings up a good point. This is a stupid comparison since Durantula aint even in his prime yet.

[StateOfMind12]

Since, you know, Tracy shot about 45% in his prime and Durant shoots around 47%. TWO WHOLE PERCENTAGE POINTS :lol
Currently Kevin Durant shoots 50% from the field and current Durant would also be prime Durant since this is easily his best season in his career.


If you wanna talk playoffs, Tmac prime was still around 45% which is about what Durant shot last year. If you wanna bring up Durant's first playoffs, he was at 35% wheras Tmac started off at 38%. ZOMG the efficiency :P
If I wanna talk playoffs, I would talk to you about how Durant made it to the WCF in his 2nd playoff appearance while Tmac has still never got past the 1st round for 7 straight post-seasons now.

Durant's 2nd post-season appearance is better than anything Tmac ever did in the post-season.


Anyway, I agree with him blowing the Charlotte series. Then again, his team couldn't play defense to save their lives...not his fault. Anyway, I already know there's no convincing you so I'll just stop here...'
His team couldn't play defense and neither could he but yeah lets give Tracy more excuses, it's not like he has a million of them already. :oldlol:



Btw, Fudge brings up a good point. This is a stupid comparison since Durantula aint even in his prime yet.
Durant is already better than any version of Tmac, so it would only be a joke as Durant improves more and more.

[BoNafidde]

ANYONE that saw TMac play in his prime knows its TMac and its not even close. He was so athletic, explosive and just a great all around player. He was a terrific passer for someone of his size. I remember there was a game in the playoffs against the Jazz when he had 16 assists. Call me when Durant gets his team mates involved like that.

[StateOfMind12]

I remember there was a game in the playoffs against the Jazz when he had 16 assists. Call me when Durant gets his team mates involved like that.
I remember there was a playoff series where Durant won it. Call me when Tmac can accomplish such a feature like that. I also remember there was a playoff series where Durant shot over 46%. Call me when Tmac can shoot as efficiently as that.

[BoNafidde]

:lol Im starting to think you are trolling. Have prime TMac switch with current Durant....You think Durant does better with that Orlando team and Tracy does worst than KD with OKC?

[All Net]

I remember there was a playoff series where Durant won it.

:lol burn..

[StateOfMind12]

:lol Im starting to think you are trolling. Have prime TMac switch with current Durant....You think Durant does better with that Orlando team and Tracy does worst than KD with OKC?
Is hypotheticals the only argument Tmac fans have? :oldlol:

I'll answer your question anyways and the answer is yes to both. I am more confident that Tracy would do worse than KD with OKC than Durant doing better with Orlando than Tracy did though.

[dunksby]

I remember there was a playoff series where Durant won it. Call me when Tmac can accomplish such a feature like that. I also remember there was a playoff series where Durant shot over 46%. Call me when Tmac can shoot as efficiently as that.
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/16j4jyx.jpg1.gif

[ganja0710]

Brah, Tracy McGrady and it's not even close and I'm a big Durant fan. Brah.

[paintingshade]

it's sad that people use the "watch the games" argument, and are completely oblivious to the fact that YOUR EYES LIE TO YOU. OFTEN. there have been numerous studies to that fact. You guys are the type of people that think Allen Iverson was actually good. HE WASNT.

For you ignorant fossils out there, we can actually measure shooting percentages from different areas on the court, where you can easily see that Durant has far better numbers on deep 2s and 3s. We can also measure down to the possession (thanks to tech from companies like synergy) how players fare defensively by points per defensive possession. Durant has some of the best numbers in the league here.

Just because you came every time tmac would hit a contested fade away doesn't mean he was actually a good shooter.

regardless, tmac in his prime was outstanding, and was actually very productive. The comparison is fair to be sure. I'm not saying one is better than the other, but I am saying that people convinced that tmac was a better shooter and better defender are retarded.

[ralph_i_el]

it's sad that people use the "watch the games" argument, and are completely oblivious to the fact that YOUR EYES LIE TO YOU. OFTEN. there have been numerous studies to that fact. You guys are the type of people that think Allen Iverson was actually good. HE WASNT.

For you ignorant fossils out there, we can actually measure shooting percentages from different areas on the court, where you can easily see that Durant has far better numbers on deep 2s and 3s. We can also measure down to the possession (thanks to tech from companies like synergy) how players fare defensively by points per defensive possession. Durant has some of the best numbers in the league here.

Just because you came every time tmac would hit a contested fade away doesn't mean he was actually a good shooter.

regardless, tmac in his prime was outstanding, and was actually very productive. The comparison is fair to be sure. I'm not saying one is better than the other, but I am saying that people convinced that tmac was a better shooter and better defender are retarded.


Then how did the sixers get to the finals?

:kobe: come on man troll harder

[Solid Snake]

I'm the guy that laughs at Mcgrady's inability to get out of the 1st round, and routinely calls him Tree-Sap, but even I can admit that 2003 Tmac violates that stick figure of a human Durant in EVERY facet of the game.

[Smoke117]

I'll take Kevin Durant. I've found there is a lot of nostalgia involved that makes people overrate Mcgrady.

[CavaliersFTW]

I'll take the one that got his team out of the 1st round and isn't a choking cancerous loser. If you didn't know the answer by now, the answer is Kevin Durant.
:lol

[miles berg]

Durant all day.

He is a hybrid of Nowitzki and TMac, leaning upwards toward Nowitzki.

[mark]

Then how did the sixers get to the finals?

:kobe: come on man troll harder


Kevin Durant is a winner, that molded his game to Westbrook, TMac would never do such a thing.

[bizil]

Gotta take T Mac! Scoring wise, both are on the same level. But T Mac's all around game is superior to KD's. Mac could play PG, SG, and SF at high ass levels. He had very good defense in my book as well. The main difference in my book is T Mac's passing ability. I don't think it's any cake walk, but I would take T Mac. Peak value wise, I always felt MJ, Kobe, Wade, T Mac, Jerry West, Gervin, and Drexler were the top SG's of all time in that sense. The only SG's peak value wise I would take over Mac are indeed MJ, Kobe, and Wade. Even Wade is arguable over T Mac though peak value wise.

[DaHeezy]

One NEVER went out of the first round. The other went to the WCF. All is said.

A player shouldn't be faulted for lack of team talent

[bizil]

A player shouldn't be faulted for lack of team talent

Exactly right! It takes a team effort, and the teams T Mac had never seen as potential contenders to begin with. Trust me, if T Mac would have had a healthy Grant Hill like he was supposed to, that team would have done major damage! That tandem is damn near on the level of a Bron-Wade tandem, maybe even just as dangerous. U have two guys 6'8 or 6'9 that can BOTH play three positions at a high level, were alpha dog scorers, and were freak athletes. The only think Bron and Wade would have over them CLEARLY in my book was defense.

Then later in Houston, Mac and Yao both caught the injury bug. When u look at T Mac's resume he possibly has a HOF case:

7 Time All Star
7 Time All NBA
2 Time Scoring Champ
Career averages of 20 points, 5.6 boards, 4.2 dimes
18,333 career points

By no means is he first ballot. But his individual accolades are better than many guys in the Hall currently. Calvin Murphy made the HOF for example. Mac's accolades are better than Murphy's. He made more All Star games and All NBA teams than Reggie Miller. And his peak value had him firmly in the top 5 players in the L.

[Bigsmoke]

Durant

[PsychoBe]

I remember there was a playoff series where Durant won it. Call me when Tmac can accomplish such a feature like that. I also remember there was a playoff series where Durant shot over 46%. Call me when Tmac can shoot as efficiently as that.

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