Thunder set local TV ratings record. NBA destroys MLB in TV ratings.

[t-rex]

For Wednesday

[Velocirap31]

Best sport in the world. Too bad it'll never catch football.

[Tmuston Beltics]

Somewhat surprising..

[Sarcastic]

There are only about 500,000 people in Oklahoma City. A 10 rating for that market is only like 50,000.

[DukeDelonte13]

Best sport in the world. Too bad it'll never catch football.


never will until your team plays once a week on a sunday afternoon.

[t-rex]

never will until your team plays once a week on a sunday afternoon.

And only plays 16 games.

[t-rex]

There are only about 500,000 people in Oklahoma City. A 10 rating for that market is only like 50,000.


The Oklahoma City MSA is a little bigger than you think.

Oklahoma City, OK MSA-1,252,987


At 1.2 million people, it is the 43rd largest urban area in the country.

[t-rex]

Best sport in the world. Too bad it'll never catch football.


Young Jedi.... Baseball once thought as you do.


http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070225173459/wikiality/images/4/45/Yoda.jpg

[Sarcastic]

The Oklahoma City MSA is a little bigger than you think.

Oklahoma City, OK MSA-1,252,987


At 1.2 million people, it is the 43rd largest urban area in the country.

Ok, so 120,000 people.

It's still the smallest market in the NBA.

[cteach111]

not surprising. There's no other major sports teams in Oklahoma besides the Tulsa Shock.

[t-rex]

Ok, so 120,000 people.

It's still the smallest market in the NBA.


Good point.

But hey, don't discount 120,000 people.

Baseball only had 443,000 people for the ENTIRE COUNTRY for its Nationally televised baseball game Wednesday. And the MLB game featured teams from Miami and Philadelphia, 2 huge markets!

Plus, the season has just started, you would think baseball would still be new and fresh for the fans.:confusedshrug:

Think about this. The Oklahoma City Thunder draw about a 3rd of the audience (using Oklahoma City only) that a Nationally televised baseball game gets for the entire country, featuring a team from the giant city of Philadelphia!

[Heavincent]

Now lets compare it to the NFL...

Oh wait.

[Cowboy Thunder]

There are only about 500,000 people in Oklahoma City. A 10 rating for that market is only like 50,000.

Speak more derp head

[t-rex]

Now lets compare it to the NFL...

Oh wait.

Agreed. The NFL is tops. I'm not saying its not. But after football, when it comes to sport popularity, the NBA has a case.

[DMV2]

MLB has some weird time schedule on their televised games. During the regular season, they often have games between 1PM to 6PM on TBS or Fox and a few prime time(8PM or later) on ESPN.

And their postseason schedule is even worse. They don't start games until 8:30 or 9 PM on the eastcoast and most of their games don't end until midnight or 1 in the morning.


Agreed. The NFL is tops. I'm not saying its not. But after football, when it comes to sport popularity, the NBA has a case.
That's only in the States. Basketball tops American football and baseball around the world.

[UtahJazzFan88]

Baseball isn't compelling anymore, quite frankly I have no incentive to watch, too slow pace for me to watch consistently.

[TeamLAC]

Baseball isn't compelling anymore, quite frankly I have no incentive to watch, too slow pace for me to watch consistently.
This.

[DuMa]

i struggled with this idealogy for the longest time but baseball isnt a sport to me anymore. its a lot like golf.

[TeamLAC]

i struggled with this idealogy for the longest time but baseball isnt a sport to me anymore. its a lot like golf.
I wouldn't go that far... lol. If I am watching a baseball game for some reason... it's the Yankees. :confusedshrug:

[Sarcastic]

Speak more derp head

The city has 580,000 people.

My sincerest apologies to those 80,000 I overlooked.

[All Net]

Baseball isn't compelling anymore, quite frankly I have no incentive to watch, too slow pace for me to watch consistently.

I have never seen how people can watch baseball. just boring to me.

[nba_55]

MLB ratings are declining as years pass.
NBA ratings > MLB ratings

[DMV2]

I still watch postseason baseball but then again there's not much going on in October other than Sunday football.

The slow pace and little-to-no contact kills it for me. You'll only see home plate collisions once a month. Like DuMa said, it's almost like golf.

[bdreason]

Only watched one full Baseball game last year on TV.


I do like to go to Live games a few times a year though. It's nice just going out to the park and enjoying the atmosphere. The games seem to move a lot faster when you're there Live as well.




I'll be attending the A's @ Angels game next Wednesday. Let's go Oakland.

[Droid101]

I have never watched a baseball game on TV. I have been to one live game in my life (Angels home game in 2008).

I only watch the Super Bowl (or, rather, I attend Super Bowl parties for the free food and to laugh at the commercials) regarding football.

I watch every game I can for basketball. Lakers and Clippers are on local cable, and anytime ESPN, ABC, TNT, or NBATV have games, I'm flipping back and forth. I've been to about 5 Laker games live and 5 or 6 Clippers games live since they moved to Staples Center.

I just don't understand those other sports I guess. Too slow. Too boring.

[dunksby]

Baseball is so pointless but I guess it's better than Cricket :lol

[tmacattack33]

Is this news to you?

NBA has had an advantage over baseball for a while now.

Baseball will always do decent though because its a nice event to take your kids to to hang out in the outdoors and eat nachos.

[(e)]

The city has 580,000 people.

My sincerest apologies to those 80,000 I overlooked.
You're using old population figures fyi. OKC grew like 14% from 2009 to 2010, I really wouldn't be surprised to see the OKC metro area having around 1.5 million people.

Not that really matters though; regardless, it's impressive for the NBA. I really think the shortened season is helping them.

[Zackmorris]

That's only in the States. Basketball tops American football and baseball around the world.

To be fair, no one gives a shit about american football outside of US. Probably little care for baseball but you are right.

Now when it comes to soccer....

[JustinJDW]

I use to think baseball was just a boring sport as well, but then I started watching a little bit and actually started learning about the sport. I began to understand the psychology and chess play behind it all, and now I fairly enjoy watching the sport. The past two years alone I've began watching baseball much more. Basketball and football will always be my top sports of course, but baseball is a nice change of pace, and its really is the perfect summer sport to invest in and enjoy. I encourage others to learn more about the sport as well. I use to think football was lame, and really didn't start watching it until I was about fifteen, and now I love it just as much as basketball.

Hockey however, has been a little bit difficult to get into. I enjoy watching it as well, mostly because of my love for sports period. But the hockey season runs parallel to the NBA, so every time it comes down to watching one of the two at any given night, its no contest really.

[kentatm]

lol at comparing the ratings of a two playoff caliber matchups late in the season to an early season stinker with the crappy Marlins and their awful fan base.

[t-rex]

lol at comparing the ratings of a two playoff caliber matchups late in the season to an early season stinker with the crappy Marlins and their awful fan base.


I disagree.

The baseball season has just started. It should be new and fresh. Plus the TV ratings for MLB included the Philadelphia, which is a GIANT TV market.

On the flip side, the NBA games mentioned in the OP involved Golden State, Portland and Milwaukee. These are not marquee National teams (although NY is) at all. Yet the NBA still stomped MLB.

[t-rex]

On Thursday TNT's Heat/Bulls game drew 3.71 million viewers. It was the second most watched primetime cable program of the night, among all cable programming and stations (not just sports).

[knickswin]

I am a big sports fan in general. I like football and tennis a lot and will even watch soccer if it's the world cup or something. But I don't understand baseball or its popularity. There's nothing to observe. No creativity whatsoever. It's fun to go to the games, but I can't watch it on TV.

Maybe I just don't watch it enough. I read something about how Manny Ramirez would do all this crazy stuff every time he was at the mound to mess with pitchers. If I were to watch him, there's no way I would notice it, though.

[allabouthawks]

To be fair, no one gives a shit about american football outside of US. Probably little care for baseball but you are right.

Now when it comes to soccer....

i care

[miles berg]

Baseball sucks. I havent watched a full game since Juan Gonzalez was the MVP in Texas.

It is just so awful, I dont even really consider it a sport. It is more of a skill demonstration than an actual sport.

NBA & NFL are the only one's I care anything about.

[HEAT111]

I hope it destroys the NFL in ratings.

[magnax1]

Best sport in the world. Too bad it'll never catch football.
Nationally? No. Worldwide, I'd be surprised if it didn't at least come close within my lifetime.

[emaugust]

Nationally? No. Worldwide, I'd be surprised if it didn't at least come close within my lifetime.

The NFL is so goddamn good at what it does, it would not surprise me if they eventually manage to break football globally.

Though, as it currently stands, basketball is doing much better globally for sure.

[t-rex]

The NFL is so goddamn good at what it does, it would not surprise me if they eventually manage to break football globally.

Though, as it currently stands, basketball is doing much better globally for sure.


The NFL ,when it comes to marketing, branding and public relations is so much better than everyone else, I have often thought that there should be college business courses available to study what the NFL does. Seriously. Their business model is that good.

[YAWN]

Some funny posts in this thread...

Golf pulls in massive ratings on Sundays going up against the giants of the NFL when their marquee players are in the hunt (tiger/phil).

And with the baseball comparison in the OP, that was a meaningless EARLY regular season game with one good team vs a mediocre team. ONE of 162 regular season games that they play in 180 days.. You're comparing that to a game with two marquee teams fighting for playoff seeding with only 8 games left in the season... :facepalm

[YAWN]

It is just so awful, I dont even really consider it a sport. It is more of a skill demonstration than an actual sport.


this oughta be good, please elaborate...

[t-rex]

Some funny posts in this thread...

Golf pulls in massive ratings on Sundays going up against the giants of the NFL when their marquee players are in the hunt (tiger/phil).

And with the baseball comparison in the OP, that was a meaningless EARLY regular season game with one good team vs a mediocre team. ONE of 162 regular season games that they play in 180 days.. You're comparing that to a game with two marquee teams fighting for playoff seeding with only 8 games left in the season... :facepalm


Did you read the OP?

Since when are Golden State, Milwaukee and Portland marquee NBA teams?

The MLB game included the Philadelphia Phillies, which is one of the most popular MLB teams in the league and a huge TV market for the league.

Plus, MLB was still in its opening few games. Shouldn't it have a little flash? Your'e not telling me that Baseball gets old and stale for its fans during the first week of the season are you?

[t-rex]

Some funny posts in this thread...

Golf pulls in massive ratings on Sundays going up against the giants of the NFL when their marquee players are in the hunt (tiger/phil).

And with the baseball comparison in the OP, that was a meaningless EARLY regular season game with one good team vs a mediocre team. ONE of 162 regular season games that they play in 180 days.. You're comparing that to a game with two marquee teams fighting for playoff seeding with only 8 games left in the season... :facepalm


Try this.

For the opening night of Baseball, ESPN moved its NBA telecast to ESPN2 to clear the air of its flagship station for the OPENING NIGHT of baseball.

The result?

The OPENING NIGHT of the Baseball season featuring the very popular St. Louis Cardinals and the Miami Marlins scored a 1.8 overnight national TV rating.

Meanwhile the NBA game (Heat/Thunder) which was moved to ESPN2 to make way for baseball scored a 2.1 overnight national TV rating.

Source: ESPN

Are you arguing that fans of baseball are already bored of the sport on OPENING NIGHT?:roll:

BTW... Golf gets absolutely wiped out by the NFL on Sundays. Its not even close.

[YAWN]

Did you read the OP?

The MLB game included the Philadelphia Phillies, which is one of the most popular MLB teams in the league and a huge TV market for the league.

Plus, MLB was still in its opening few games. Shouldn't it have a little flash? Your'e not telling me that Baseball gets old and stale for its fans during the first week of the season are you?

Yes i read the OP. thunder + clippers = two marquee teams jostling for playoff seeding, right?

Phillies versus the awful marlins. Im sure there were still 50,000 people in the stadium, but do you really want Yankees, Red Sox, or Dodger fans to give a shit about that meaningless beginning of the season game?



OPENING NIGHT of the Baseball season featuring the very popular St. Louis Cardinals and the Miami Marlins scored a 1.8 overnight national TV rating.

Meanwhile the NBA game (Heat/Thunder) which was moved to ESPN2 to make way for baseball scored a 2.1 overnight national TV rating.
Are you arguing that fans of baseball are already bored of the sport on OPENING NIGHT?:roll:

BTW... Golf gets absolutely wiped out by the NFL on Sundays. Its not even close.

Again. The god awful marlins vs the cards. Im sure St louis households were glued to the tv, there were probably 40k people still at the game.

Last night I was watching the Lakers play at the same time the Dodgers were playing. If the roles were reversed and the MLB season was winding down.. The Dodgers fighting the Padres for the division, and the Lakers were playing a meaningless regular season game against the Bobcats, id be watching the Dodgers game.

Is it insane to assume the sports fans in Miami decided to watch the heat battle the #1 team in the NBA with the biggest threat to their superstars MVP chances a mere handful of days after being embarrassed by them? Seems pretty logical to me.

In regards to your golf comment...Not when tiger or phil are in the hunt on Sunday as I mentioned in my post. People tune away from regular season NFL games in hordes to watch Tiger play golf. 100% fact. Tiger won a small tournament a couple weeks ago and pulled in a 4. something overnighter. Every time Tiger has been in the hunt for majors on Sunday golf has insane ratings that even beat out those NFL games.

[kurt_rambis]

Is it insane to assume the sports fans in Miami decided to watch the heat battle the #1 team in the NBA with the biggest threat to their superstars MVP chances a mere handful of days after being embarrassed by them? Seems pretty logical to me.


actually, the marlins game drew a bigger rating locally than the heat-thunder game (5.4 rating vs 3.6)

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2012/04/thunderheat-on-espn2-beats-mlb-opener-on-espn-but-marlins-top-heat-in-miami/

there seems to be a trend of MLB get better ratings locally, with the NBA doing a little better nationally. i think these numbers are from 2010, but baseball kills the NBA in the large majority of markets

http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/p/26137758/Local-TV-ratings-MLB-vs-NBA-vs-NHL.aspx

it's probably a bit different now, but i'd be curious to know by how much

[ukfan22]

actually, the marlins game drew a bigger rating locally than the heat-thunder game (5.4 rating vs 3.6)

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2012/04/thunderheat-on-espn2-beats-mlb-opener-on-espn-but-marlins-top-heat-in-miami/

there seems to be a trend of MLB get better ratings locally, with the NBA doing a little better nationally. i think these numbers are from 2010, but baseball kills the NBA in the large majority of markets

http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/p/26137758/Local-TV-ratings-MLB-vs-NBA-vs-NHL.aspx

it's probably a bit different now, but i'd be curious to know by how much

You are right, MLB almost always dominates locally, while the NBA gets better national ratings. Playoffs are about even.

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2010/04/local-on-eights-ratings-for-nba-mlb-and/

[t-rex]

Yes i read the OP. thunder + clippers = two marquee teams jostling for playoff seeding, right?

Phillies versus the awful marlins. Im sure there were still 50,000 people in the stadium, but do you really want Yankees, Red Sox, or Dodger fans to give a shit about that meaningless beginning of the season game?




Again. The god awful marlins vs the cards. Im sure St louis households were glued to the tv, there were probably 40k people still at the game.

Last night I was watching the Lakers play at the same time the Dodgers were playing. If the roles were reversed and the MLB season was winding down.. The Dodgers fighting the Padres for the division, and the Lakers were playing a meaningless regular season game against the Bobcats, id be watching the Dodgers game.

Is it insane to assume the sports fans in Miami decided to watch the heat battle the #1 team in the NBA with the biggest threat to their superstars MVP chances a mere handful of days after being embarrassed by them? Seems pretty logical to me.

In regards to your golf comment...Not when tiger or phil are in the hunt on Sunday as I mentioned in my post. People tune away from regular season NFL games in hordes to watch Tiger play golf. 100% fact. Tiger won a small tournament a couple weeks ago and pulled in a 4. something overnighter. Every time Tiger has been in the hunt for majors on Sunday golf has insane ratings that even beat out those NFL games.


Please read the OP again. Games involving the Golden State Warriors and Portland Trailblazers were out-drawing MLB regular season games.

Plus the NBA games were airing at later time-slots outside of the primetime TV window in the EST. Yet they still outdrew the baseball game. I would add that the baseball game should have been fresh for its fans in that the season was just starting. In addition the Phillies ARE A MARQUEE NATIONAL BASEBALL TEAM.

As for Golf, even with Tiger Woods in contention, the sport doesn't COME CLOSE TO touching the NFL. Nothing does. Tiger pulling a 4.0 rating is nothing for an NFL game. NFL preseason games draw better than that. An NFL regular season game can draw up to 4 times that number. A playoff and/or Super Bowl game is off the charts.

I really think you need to do more home work before addressing this thread again. Google is your friend.:oldlol:


BTW, Tiger Woods first PGA win since since his fall from grace earned a 4.8 overnight rating. Which for Golf is phenomenal! However for the world of NFL football, such a rating is laughable.

Want proof.

The NFL Pro Bowl drew a 7.9 TV rating. Yes, the sorry Pro Bowl drew a TV audience greater than a Tiger Woods victory or even some Baseball and NBA playoff games! That's how big the NFL is. To compare anything to the NFL is foolhardy. Again.... google is your friend. Please use it before responding again.

[t-rex]

Just because I find this stuff interesting, I actually went back and looked at the the TV ratings for the 2011 World Series. I found this interesting nugget.

Game 3 of the World Series (10/22/11) actually only got a 6.6 TV rating.

The NFL Pro Bowl this past year got a 7.9!


Yes, that's right folks, the NFL Pro Bowl, which even by the standards of die-hard NFL fans is a useless activity, actually drew a larger audience than at least one World Series game. Amazing.

BTW.. in case you are wondering, the lowest rated or least watched NBA Finals game of 2011 was 9.0 TV rating for Game 1.

That's pretty sad for what use to be America's pastime.

[NauruDude]

Best sport in the world. Too bad it'll never catch football.

Nothing will ever catch football idiot. By far the most popular sport in the world. Every country except USA, India, China.

[Velocirap31]

Nothing will ever catch football idiot. By far the most popular sport in the world. Every country except USA, India, China.

No one gives a shit about American football outside of North America. If you mean soccer, it'll never catch that. Idiot.

[christian1923]

Just because I find this stuff interesting, I actually went back and looked at the the TV ratings for the 2011 World Series. I found this interesting nugget.

Game 3 of the World Series (10/22/11) actually only got a 6.6 TV rating.

The NFL Pro Bowl this past year got a 7.9!


Yes, that's right folks, the NFL Pro Bowl, which even by the standards of die-hard NFL fans is a useless activity, actually drew a larger audience than at least one World Series game. Amazing.

BTW.. in case you are wondering, the lowest rated or least watched NBA Finals game of 2011 was 9.0 TV rating for Game 1.

That's pretty sad for what use to be America's pastime.

People are idiots is all that tells me. That world series was amazing.

[t-rex]

People are idiots is all that tells me. That world series was amazing.


Fair point.

I'm not disputing what is or is not amazing. Nor am I debating what people should or should not be watching. I am only posting what the numbers tell us.


If i could add my own 2 scents, how anyone could watch the NFL Pro Bowl is beyond me. But for some reason they do... in droves.

[christian1923]

Fair point.

I'm not disputing what is or is not amazing. Nor am I debating what people should or should not be watching. I am only posting what the numbers tell us.


If i could add my own 2 scents, how anyone could watch the NFL Pro Bowl is beyond me. But for some reason they do... in droves.
I cant lie i love baseball but it is konda hard to watch if my team isnt playing. Unless it is anoter big market team is playing or the playoffs, or a nasty pitcher.

Bud Selig needs to find away to bring home run back up.. I miss those days.