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1987_Lakers
04-13-2012, 03:29 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/Cesareborgia.jpg/457px-Cesareborgia.jpg

Son of Pope Alexander VI.


http://www.macquirelatory.com/False%20Images%20of%20Christ.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesare_Borgia

LBJMVP
04-13-2012, 03:30 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/Cesareborgia.jpg/457px-Cesareborgia.jpg

Son of Pope Alexander VI.


http://www.macquirelatory.com/False%20Images%20of%20Christ.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesare_Borgia

you left out a bracket.

1987_Lakers
04-13-2012, 03:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKpIkOXgAmg

The white image of Christ is really Cesare Borgia
N' uh, the second son of Pope Alexander
The sixth of Rome N' once the picture was shown
That's how the devils tricked my dome

Lebron23
04-13-2012, 03:48 PM
http://dreamerlove.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/jesus_bbc.jpg

http://www.catholica.com.au/ianstake/images/RealJesus_500x320.jpg

http://www.roadjunky.com/images/526.jpg

Real Jesus.

Lebron23
04-13-2012, 03:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKpIkOXgAmg

The white image of Christ is really Cesare Borgia
N' uh, the second son of Pope Alexander
The sixth of Rome N' once the picture was shown
That's how the devils tricked my dome

http://machiavellitheprince.blogspot.com/2010/12/cesare-borgia-jesus-christ-why-are.html

http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/561288-Cesare-Borgia-was-the-model-for-White-Jesus-Forums

http://www.zimbio.com/Conspiracy+theories/articles/_oFGzgWor57/Image+Jesus+actually+image+Cesare+Borgia

Legend of Josh
04-13-2012, 03:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKpIkOXgAmg

The white image of Christ is really Cesare Borgia
N' uh, the second son of Pope Alexander
The sixth of Rome N' once the picture was shown
That's how the devils tricked my dome

Well, if Killah Priest says so, it must be true.

-p.tiddy-
04-13-2012, 03:54 PM
NB4 DonDadda

Lebron23
04-13-2012, 03:57 PM
Borgia and his followers destroyed the original image of Christ because he looked like a middle eastern man. They had a war against the Muslims and Islam during his time.

AirGauge23
04-13-2012, 04:00 PM
Who?

-p.tiddy-
04-13-2012, 04:05 PM
Who?
:oldlol:

Lebron23
04-13-2012, 04:09 PM
Who?


:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

KevinNYC
04-13-2012, 05:12 PM
Lots of other dumb shit on that site

Including some horrible anti-semitism

KevinNYC
04-13-2012, 05:15 PM
Also they don't seem to get to the movies much


For instance with Facebook, it is said to be conceived by Mark Zuckerberg, but whats kept from mainstream is that he stole the concept of creating a social network aimed at college students

DonDadda59
04-13-2012, 05:24 PM
NB4 DonDadda

http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt344/charmaymc/Macros/fry.gif

In b4 my foot in your ass

:oldlol:

But to the OP... yes, the popular image of 'Jesus' is based on the paintings commissioned by Pope Alexander (you ever see 'The Borgias' on Showtime? Decent show, wonder if they'll bring this up) painted by Da Vinci. The Borgias were some corrupt f*ckers if you study up on them, Machiavelli based some of 'The Prince' on the family, especially Cesare.

1987_Lakers
04-13-2012, 10:51 PM
http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt344/charmaymc/Macros/fry.gif

In b4 my foot in your ass

:oldlol:

But to the OP... yes, the popular image of 'Jesus' is based on the paintings commissioned by Pope Alexander (you ever see 'The Borgias' on Showtime? Decent show, wonder if they'll bring this up) painted by Da Vinci. The Borgias were some corrupt f*ckers if you study up on them, Machiavelli based some of 'The Prince' on the family, especially Cesare.

Crazy stuff.

Dictator
04-13-2012, 10:55 PM
Yes

dunksby
04-13-2012, 10:56 PM
Everybody knows Jesus was black.

DonDadda59
04-13-2012, 11:02 PM
Crazy stuff.

Yeah, Cesare and Da Vinci were actually really good friends and Cesare hired him as his personal military architect and engineer. In turn, Da Vinci turned Cesare's likeness into a God worshiped by millions. Nice tradeoff I think.

Loneshot
04-13-2012, 11:33 PM
I believe it

ace23
04-13-2012, 11:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKpIkOXgAmg

The white image of Christ is really Cesare Borgia
N' uh, the second son of Pope Alexander
The sixth of Rome N' once the picture was shown
That's how the devils tricked my dome
Best song on the CD.

gigantes
04-14-2012, 12:06 AM
jesus' image is not any one image. it's been widely conceived, probably starting as early as the 4th century. no one image could replace that AFAIK, not even one of the very first mafioso's (borgia).

having said that, it's possible that many of the images out there could indeed have been patterned after cesare's. if so, that's pretty interesting.

aside from that, nobody knows for sure what jesus specifically looked like. jacob-whatever has obviously been trying to change that recently, but the body of scientist-scholars have not been persuaded AFAIK.

Myth
04-14-2012, 12:21 AM
Everybody knows Jesus was middle eastern

fixed.

The one thing people agree on is that Jesus was not a ginger. Or was he?

nek1477
04-14-2012, 02:59 AM
Best song on the CD.
are you serious bro?

Shadowboxin, labels, gold, swordsman?

Legend of Josh
04-14-2012, 04:57 AM
are you serious bro?

Shadowboxin, labels, gold, swordsman?

He could have been referring to Liquid Swords or Heavy Mental.

kNIOKAS
04-14-2012, 05:11 AM
http://beatlesnumber9.com/John_Lennon_040407_490938_full.jpg

pauk
04-14-2012, 05:24 AM
Yeshua Ben-Yosef is his actual name..... and as far as i know there is no official picture of him to show you details of his facial structure and nobody knows how he looked like.... but he was middle-eastern.. so its very simple... a typical middle-eastern has dark hair - brown eyes.. natural light brown to maybe darker skin and middle-eastern type facial structures... shall not even be confused with a white guy from South Europe (natural pale/white skin, dark hair / brown/green/blue eyes)...

he for sure didnt had blondish/reddish hair / blue eyes and ultra pale skin and a nice ripped body with a six-pack like many damn churches try to portray... nor was he African... he most likely looked something like that picture LEBRON23 showed...

gigantes
04-14-2012, 08:17 AM
he for sure didnt had blondish/reddish hair / blue eyes and ultra pale skin and a nice ripped body with a six-pack like many damn churches try to portray... nor was he African... he most likely looked something like that picture LEBRON23 showed...
that's a pretty interesting face. not a modern semitic face (either arab or jew) from the pool of faces i've seen in my lifetime. the hazel eyes and vaguely 'caveman' features come off as either ancient or maybe specific to a certain region.

if i saw that face today i'd definitely guess somewhere in western / southern europe rather than the israeli or arabic region.

dunksby
04-14-2012, 08:22 AM
that's a pretty interesting face. not a modern semitic face (either arab or jew) from the pool of faces i've seen in my lifetime. the hazel eyes and vaguely 'caveman' features come off as either ancient or maybe specific to a certain region.

if i saw that face today i'd definitely guess somewhere in western / southern europe rather than the israeli or arabic region.
You do know Southwestern Europeans look like that because they got mixed with Middle Easterners right?

gigantes
04-14-2012, 09:01 AM
You do know Southwestern Europeans look like that because they got mixed with Middle Easterners right?
yep- the moorish conquest. although i wasn't referring to the iberian peninsula specifically.