Name the SG's today who has surpassed MJ in speed and athlethic

[juju151111]

Base on new era advance players this should be easy

[PistolPete44]

Kobe Bean Bryant
he could jump high and drive past defenders

[bwink23]

Base on new era advance players this should be easy


Do they get penalized for being floppers?? :lol

[LoneyROY7]

Kobe, Gordon, Wade, and Monta.

[bwink23]

Kobe, Gordon, Wade, and Monta.



:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[Alamo]

Russell Westbrook. He's a SG in most people's eyes.

[juju151111]

Kobe, Gordon, Wade, and Monta.
Kobe isn't has fast or has athletic has 87-90 MJ. The only person on that list who makes sense is Wade pre sergery. He was slightly quicker. I am surprise all starting SG of this era can't beat out a weak era SG. Does this mean this era is garbage? I mean they do have new technology :facepalm

[bwink23]

Russell Westbrook. He's a SG in most people's eyes.


Let's see Westbrook dunk from the FT line....:lol

[LoneyROY7]

Kobe isn't has fast or has athletic has 87-90 MJ. The only person on that list who makes sense is Wade pre sergery. He was slightly quicker. I am surprise all starting SG of this era can't beat out a weak era SG. Does this mean this era is garbage? I mean they do have new technology :facepalm

Eric Gordon is significantly faster then Jordan. He ran a 3.01 3/4 court sprint...faster then Rose, Rondo, Westbrook, and Wall.

[Eric Cartman]

Derrick Rose, Wade.

[alwaysunny]

Base on new era advance players this should be easy

Terrible example since you're comparing one guy who just happens to be the GOAT. Why don't you compare ALL SGs from one era to another?

[juju151111]

Derrick Rose, Wade.
Derrick Rose is a 6'3 PG. I agree with Wade Pre injury was more quicker

[SCdac]

He's a couple years removed from the league but AI was always one of the fastest and most athletic

http://phillysportslive.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/iverson-jordan.jpg

[LoneyROY7]

Derrick Rose is a 6'3 PG. I agree with Wade Pre injury was more quicker

Eric Gordon is a 6'3 SG, and he is quicker.

[nbacardDOTnet]

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/Michael%20Jordan/VS/Whole%20Team/1-2.gif


He's a couple years removed from the league but AI was always one of the fastest and most athletic

http://phillysportslive.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/iverson-jordan.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/Allen%20Iverson/VS/Michael%20Jordan/iversonjordanvz1-1.gif

[juju151111]

Terrible example since you're comparing one guy who just happens to be the GOAT. Why don't you compare ALL SGs from one era to another?
They said Mj is weak weak and players today with their robotic bodies are too much for him

[juju151111]

Eric Gordon is a 6'3 SG, and he is quicker.
Gimme a clip of Eric Gordon. From wat I have seen he not quicker. I am talking about with the ball nobody cares about draft camp.

[thelucifer69]

If you mean speed and athleticism combine the answer is no

[LoneyROY7]

Gimme a clip of Eric Gordon. From wat I have seen he not quicker. I am talking about with the ball nobody cares about draft camp.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_h95ikI2h4

Check it. Gordon chasing down the ball at an ungodly speed.

[alwaysunny]

They said Mj is weak weak and players today with their robotic bodies are too much for him

You've been trolled my friend

[NinjaSeal]

the closest player in terms of athelticim and speed and shot ect. without mimicking jordan like kobe is mcgrady

[DonDadda59]

This dude:

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/6687/154390-144255-cyborg-superman_super.jpg

To hear Beaners (as in Kobe Bean Bryant fans, not the derogatory term for those of Mexican descent) tell it, that's the prototypical SG playing in today's NBA.

[andgar923]

Kenny Smith said it best...

There's never been a player that's as quick, could jump as high, be as strong etc.etc.

Sure there's players that could jump higher (few), some that may be faster (all under 6'4 may I add) but NONE have the combination that MJ did.

As mentioned above, sure there's players that either match him or surpass him in certain aspects, but don't have the entire combination.

[juju151111]

If you mean speed and athleticism combine the answer is no
Yes that's wat I mean. I should of added body control too. The answer can't be no, but but the advance diet and machines

[j3lademaster]

Derozan probably comes the closest in terms of speed, agility and hops; but I'm not sure if he surpasses MJ in any of those categories(maybe leaping:confusedshrug: ). But Derozan is too weak. Maybe a closer comparison would be a more athletic Iggy.

[LoneyROY7]

Oh, and if you want more recent, check out the highlights of the Hornets-Jazz game yesterday: http://www.nba.com/video/games/hornets/2012/04/13/0021100881_uta_noh_recap.nba/index.html

[juju151111]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_h95ikI2h4

Check it. Gordon chasing down the ball at an ungodly speed.
Noting special show me something else

[WillyJakk]

Speed, MJ was fast but there are a only slight few who are faster in NBA history.

Athletically, no one.

/ thread.

[detroitdogg]

Wade is the closest with all the combined skills, nobody else comes close. Matter of fact, Wade has SO many highlights that look exactly like something Jordan did I dont see how anybody in this thread could bring up somebody else. Its Wade, by far, and nobody else is close.

[Deuce Bigalow]

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/Allen%20Iverson/VS/Michael%20Jordan/iversonjordanvz1-1.gif
owned by a rookie

[bwink23]

owned by a rookie


Jordan was 34 dog....most aged players would get owned by one of the fastest players to ever play....

Just STOP IT Kid....Just, STOP> :facepalm

[Deuce Bigalow]

Jordan was 34 dog....most aged players would get owned by one of the fastest players to ever play....

Just STOP IT Kid....Just, STOP> :facepalm
You Mad?

Allen toyed with him like he was a high school kid.

[dunksby]

Randy Foye

Ask CF86

[juju151111]

Oh, and if you want more recent, check out the highlights of the Hornets-Jazz game yesterday: http://www.nba.com/video/games/hornets/2012/04/13/0021100881_uta_noh_recap.nba/index.html
29 year old Mj http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usS0bF9V8j8 not his prime in terms of speed. Here he stls avoids stepping out of bounds and still beat everyone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuwIlcVsHmU

[Living Being]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_h95ikI2h4

Check it. Gordon chasing down the ball at an ungodly speed.
Fake.

[bwink23]

You Mad?

Allen toyed with him like he was a high school kid.


Kid...get a job, grow a brain....just stop....just, STOP...look in the damn mirror, and understand you're a D-bag, and try to improve upon it.

I can see your not gonna amount to shit in life if you don't change your ways.

[kurt_rambis]

end-to-end speed? a lot of players, probably. mostly PG/SG hybrids

complete athleticism? can't think of any

[LoneyROY7]

29 year old Mj http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usS0bF9V8j8 not his prime in terms of speed. Here he stls avoids stepping out of bounds and still beat everyone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuwIlcVsHmU

Number 10 was running step-for-step with MJ in the 2nd clip.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Kid...get a job, grow a brain....just stop....just, STOP...look in the damn mirror, and understand you're a D-bag, and try to improve upon it.

I can see your not gonna amount to shit in life if you don't change your ways.
Me get a life?

lol all you do here is obsess over Kobe

[pauk]

Nobody really......

[bwink23]

Me get a life?

lol all you do here is obsess over Kobe


Just step back, take a breather and find your path grasshopper. You're going down a slippery slope. I worry about you sometimes i really do...I understand you're trying to live up to some trolling internet persona, but someday your ass is gonna have to put on your big boy pants.

[LoneyROY7]

Fake.

I know, right? It's that fast.

[CelticBaller]

I have

[juju151111]

Number 10 was running step-for-step with MJ in the 2nd clip.
First of all Mj had the ball in his hand. The guy he stole the ball from swiped at him and he had to avoid stepping outside. They still couldn't beat him down

[LoneyROY7]

First of all Mj had the ball in his hand. The guy he stole the ball from swiped at him and he had to avoid stepping outside. They still couldn't beat him down

Number 10 slowed down at the end in order to avoid fouling him. Jordan was fast, but not as untouchable as you're trying to insinuate.

I also noticed you had no commentary about the Gordon highlights from last night.

[juju151111]

Number 10 slowed down at the end in order to avoid fouling him. Jordan was fast, but not as untouchable as you're trying to insinuate.

I also noticed you had no commentary about the Gordon highlights from last night.
Show me on YouTube I am on my phone NBA.com vids don't wrk. Lol I can post 80s Mj highlights too.

[LoneyROY7]

Show me on YouTube I am on my phone NBA.com vids don't wrk. Lol I can post 80s Mj highlights too.

Here's a youtube clip of the highlights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsN9B8pK1yU

Watch the full clip, but especially check out his acceleration after a crossover beginning at the 1:44 mark.

[juju151111]

Here's a youtube clip of the highlights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsN9B8pK1yU

Watch the full clip, but especially check out his acceleration after a crossover beginning at the 1:44 mark.
He is pretty quicknot going to lie. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f_yFTKx-24

[LoneyROY7]

He is pretty quicknot going to lie. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f_yFTKx-24

I can't deny MJ's athleticism. Some of those posters were pretty epic.

[juju151111]

I can't deny MJ's athleticism. Some of those posters were pretty epic.
Look at 2:03

[LoneyROY7]

Look at 2:03

The one on Malone? Pretty sick.

[kumquat]

Wade is the closest i've seen, but he doesn't have the same agility in the air and is a couple of inches shorter. Kobe also has the same type of athletic attributes but is a couple of rungs below Jordan in each category.

[yanix]

Stephen Jackson

[PickernRoller]

Kid...get a job, grow a brain....just stop....just, STOP...look in the damn mirror, and understand you're a D-bag, and try to improve upon it.

I can see your not gonna amount to shit in life if you don't change your ways.

The irony :rolleyes: :pimp: Can't handle being trolled clown?....get a new job instead. Talk about ph@gg0ts, deuce taking you for a ride I see....:oldlol: :oldlol:

[LAClipsFan33]

Eric Gordon as fast as Jordan ?

:oldlol:

:roll:

:lol

[Cali Syndicate]

You Mad?

Allen toyed with him like he was a high school kid.

And AI is what? Some scrub? Dude toyed and crossed up the best of anyone and everyone.

Can you say Romel Beck? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60mujyOj2_4)

[inclinerator]

the only player thats a better athlete today is lebron

[Punpun]

You want a more athletic SG than MJ ? Just based on this criteria ?

Vince Carter.

[eliteballer]

Its not about Jordan...its about his competition.

and every player looks more athletic/quick in highlights/recorded footage. Go watch highlights of any player from 5+years ago(or younger versions of current ones), they will look more athletic than you remember them.

[detroitdogg]

You want a more athletic SG than MJ ? Just based on this criteria ?

Vince Carter.
LMAO, this dude has no idea what actually goes on in the NBA, every post you have made shows me you dont watch basketball at all.

Vince had no speed with the rock, could not dribble in iso situations, slow as hell in the open court with the rock, no change of direction, ect. But he had more hops, hangtime, and more explosive off the ground. This shyt is about the "combo" of all the skills you fukkin dummy, please actually go and watch basketball over the next week so you can know what the fukk you are talking about.

[Punpun]

. This shyt is about the "combo" of all the skill.

Title: Name the SG's today who has surpassed MJ in speed and athlethic


Your post: This shyt is about the "combo" of all the skill.

Athleticism isn't the same thing as skills. From asole ahtleticism point of view Vince Carter is way better than Jordan.

It's Carter who dunked over a 7"2 guy (http:// http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91PHBZOIYOs). Like literraly over. Not Jordan.


God, can you read or what ? :biggums:

[detroitdogg]

Title: Name the SG's today who has surpassed MJ in speed and athlethic


Your post: This shyt is about the "combo" of all the skill.

Athleticism isn't the same thing as skills. From asole ahtleticism point of view Vince Carter is way better than Jordan.

It's Carter who dunked over a 7"2 guy (http:// http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91PHBZOIYOs). Like literraly over. Not Jordan.


God, can you read or what ? :biggums:Dude, god damn you are one dumb mothafukka. So out of all athletic qualifications, you are going to ignore everything that happends on the floor for things that happen in the air, you fukkin idiot. Vince cant even compete in anything else but jumping, he is not even top 50 in any other athletic necessity, how the fukk you gone look at jumping only and say VC was more athletic than Jordan, athleticism includes more than jumping you fukkin fool. Damn, go watch hockey, punkass whiteboy. Your idiocy has me wanting to punch the shyt out of somebody.

[Punpun]

Oh god, why are you so butthurt over this ? Jordan was the better player. Carter made a living from his insane athleticism. There is a difference.

If there is one SG who was more athletic than Jordan it's Carter. And in no way it's disrepectful for your idol.

Oh and you were wrong in your first attack as I've already pointed out.

[detroitdogg]

Oh god, why are you so butthurt over this ? Jordan was the better player. Carter made a living from his insane athleticism. There is a difference.

If there is one SG who was more athletic than Jordan it's Carter. And in no way it's disrepectful for your idol.

Oh and you were wrong in your first attack as I've already pointed out.
Mannnn, im tired of trying to explain all this simple shyt to you dog. If you are going to be arrogant to the point where you dont listen to shyt when you are 100% wrong, then I cant help you lil whiteboy. Go ahead and continue to embrass yourself in numerous different subjects and expose the fact that you dont even watch basketball.

"Vince is the best jumper and dunker of all time, BY FAR", however, he is nowhere near the complete athletic package like Wade, Bron, and Kobe".

[Hittin_Shots]

Mannnn, im tired of trying to explain all this simple shyt to you dog. If you are going to be arrogant to the point where you dont listen to shyt when you are 100% wrong, then I cant help you lil whiteboy. Go ahead and continue to embrass yourself in numerous different subjects and expose the fact that you dont even watch basketball.

"Vince is the best jumper and dunker of all time, BY FAR", however, he is nowhere near the complete athletic package like Wade, Bron, and Kobe".

I agree with you that put pun is a moron but why do you keep using white boy as a derogatory phrase...?

[detroitdogg]

I agree with you that put pun is a moron but why do you keep using white boy as a derogatory phrase...?
Its nt in a deragotory way my dude, im from Detroit, the city where a lot of whiteboys cross 8 mile and do a lot of the things we do in the hood. We joke with them all the time and call them whiteboys, its not to insult, its the same as how we let some of them slide with saying nygga. Its not to disrespect the person, its just a agressive way of communication lol. My fault if I disrespected anybody.

[Hittin_Shots]

Its nt in a deragotory way my dude, im from Detroit, the city where a lot of whiteboys cross 8 mile and do a lot of the things we do in the hood. We joke with them all the time and call them whiteboys, its not to insult, its the same as how we let some of them slide with saying nygga. Its not to disrespect the person, its just a agressive way of communication lol. My fault if I disrespected anybody.

Figured it was derogatory due to being directed at pun pun, carry on.

[AceManIII]

Let's reiterate the fact that Pun Pun is an idiot though :oldlol:

[Punpun]

Damn ***** stop ur crazy talk. the correct expression you want to use when talking about MJ or Kobe is the total package. As in both athelticism AND skills. There is a clear difference you don't seem to see.

Not my fault.

Words have propers meanings. Just google those words if ya want their meanin.

:biggums:

--

Geez, I wonder who the "moron" is. The one who thinks athleticism entails dribbling with the ball or the one who doesn't. :oldlol:

[Calabis]

You Mad?

Allen toyed with him like he was a high school kid.

Much rather have probably the quickest guy to play in the NBA, cross me up, instead of some no name Mexican in the Olympics with a and 1:roll:

[juju151111]

Its not about Jordan...its about his competition.

and every player looks more athletic/quick in highlights/recorded footage. Go watch highlights of any player from 5+years ago(or younger versions of current ones), they will look more athletic than you remember them.
The **** are u smoking? U so called new breed of SV can't beat out MJ in athletic ability or speed