How is home court tiebreaker in the NBA finals determined?

[Westbrook0]

If both the teams have the same record, and they split the head-to-head series, what's the next tiebreaker in the finals?

Also can you cite a source, please? I've seen so many different answers to this question and everyone seems to be pulling stuff out of their ass.

[taucesays]

I'm going to go ahead and guess it's record vs own division.

[Deuce Bigalow]

TIEBREAKER BASIS:
(-) Tie breaker not needed (better overall winning percentage)
(1) Division leader wins tie from team not leading a division
(2) Head-to-head won-lost percentage
(3) Conference won-lost percentage
(4) W-L Percentage vs. Playoff teams, own conference
(5) W-L Percentage vs. Playoff teams, other conference
(6) Net Points, all games

http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Cnf.html

[DMV2]

Conference record

Deuce beat me to it.

[Westbrook0]

I'm going to go ahead and guess it's record vs own division.

:facepalm

Man are you just a troll or what? Read my damn message and it says don't pull shit out of your ass and present it to me. And here you are posting a message saying you are GUESSING?

:biggums:

[Westbrook0]

TIEBREAKER BASIS:
(-) Tie breaker not needed (better overall winning percentage)
(1) Division leader wins tie from team not leading a division
(2) Head-to-head won-lost percentage
(3) Conference won-lost percentage
(4) W-L Percentage vs. Playoff teams, own conference
(5) W-L Percentage vs. Playoff teams, other conference
(6) Net Points, all games

http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Cnf.html

This is for determining seedings within your own conference for the playoffs. It says nothing about the Finals.

[Westbrook0]

Conference record

Deuce beat me to it.

I think it's still wrong though.

[Deuce Bigalow]

This is for determining seedings within your own conference for the playoffs. It says nothing about the Finals.
It's the same thing.

If both teams in the Finals have the same record, the team that gets homecourt is the one with the better record head to head, if their head to head record is the same, then it's the better conference record team that gets HC.

[Westbrook0]

It's the same thing.

If both teams in the Finals have the same record, the team that gets homecourt is the one with the better record head to head, if their head to head record is the same, then it's the better conference record team that gets HC.

Then why do these sources say otherwise?

http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2011/03/29/home-court-in-finals-up-for-grabs/

http://lakers.ocregister.com/2011/03/23/lakers-own-tiebreaker-vs-celtics-likely-not-bulls/51343/

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"Should the Bulls and Spurs finish the season with the same record and the same record against the opposite conference, the tiebreaker for home-court advantage in a prospective Finals matchup would be determined by a random drawing. That would make for an interesting scenario. But what are the chances the Bulls and Spurs meet in the Finals?"

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"The Bulls (51-19) are a half-game ahead of the Celtics (50-19) and Lakers (51-20). Because the Lakers split the regular-season series with both Chicago and Boston, the next tiebreaker for NBA Finals home-court advantage is each team

[Deuce Bigalow]

[QUOTE=Westbrook0]Then why do these sources say otherwise?

http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2011/03/29/home-court-in-finals-up-for-grabs/

http://lakers.ocregister.com/2011/03/23/lakers-own-tiebreaker-vs-celtics-likely-not-bulls/51343/

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"Should the Bulls and Spurs finish the season with the same record and the same record against the opposite conference, the tiebreaker for home-court advantage in a prospective Finals matchup would be determined by a random drawing. That would make for an interesting scenario. But what are the chances the Bulls and Spurs meet in the Finals?"

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"The Bulls (51-19) are a half-game ahead of the Celtics (50-19) and Lakers (51-20). Because the Lakers split the regular-season series with both Chicago and Boston, the next tiebreaker for NBA Finals home-court advantage is each team

[Westbrook0]

that's why.
if they have the same record, head to head record, and same conference record.

No, listen to me.

Your original link was talking about conference record in their own conference.

These two links talked about the team's record in the OPPOSING conference.

They are two different things.

I'm trying to figure out which one is correct?

[Westbrook0]

Well I guess it remains a mystery then!

We'll just have to wait for the Finals and see what happens when the time comes! Maybe the NBA will just make up the rule on the spot!

[28renyoy]

I would assume it's record vs the opposing conference

[DMV2]

No, listen to me.

Your original link was talking about conference record in their own conference.

These two links talked about the team's record in the OPPOSING conference.

They are two different things.

I'm trying to figure out which one is correct?
Own conference for conference playoffs. Opposing conference for the Finals.

The random drawing or coin flip isn't crazy, I heard commentators mentioning it a bunch of times before.

[LABean]

Tiebreaker:

(-) Tie breaker not needed (better overall winning percentage)
(1) W-L Percentage, other conference
(2) Random drawing




Source: None. :D
I'm sure it's this.

Here's some info:

2000-01
PHI @ LAL

Same record.
PHI 16-12 vs other conference (40-14 vs own conference).
LAL 22-8 vs other conference (34-18 vs own conference).


1989-90
CHI @ UTA

Same record.
CHI 20-8 vs other conference (42-12 vs own conference).
UTA 24-6 vs other conference (38-14 vs own conference).


1997-98
POR @ DET

Same record.
POR 18-8 vs other conference (41-15 vs own conference).
DET 19-9 vs other conference (40-14 vs own conference).


Own conference record has nothing to do with HCA in the Finals.

[Westbrook0]

Tiebreaker:

(-) Tie breaker not needed (better overall winning percentage)
(1) W-L Percentage, other conference
(2) Random drawing




Source: None. :D
I'm sure it's this.

Here's some info:

2000-01
PHI @ LAL

Same record.
PHI 16-12 vs other conference (40-14 vs own conference).
LAL 22-8 vs other conference (34-18 vs own conference).


1989-90
CHI @ UTA

Same record.
CHI 20-8 vs other conference (42-12 vs own conference).
UTA 24-6 vs other conference (38-14 vs own conference).


1997-98
POR @ DET

Same record.
POR 18-8 vs other conference (41-15 vs own conference).
DET 19-9 vs other conference (40-14 vs own conference).


Own conference record has nothing to do with HCA in the Finals.

And did all those teams split the head-to-head during the regular season?

[LABean]

And did all those teams split the head-to-head during the regular season?

All, but the Bulls. They lost the regular season head-to-head 0-2. They didn't get HCA though.
I'm guessing due to the vs other conference record.
The rest split it (1-1).

The Bulls won the regular season against the Spurs (1-0), and yet, it says, "Should the Bulls and Spurs finish the season with the same record and the same record against the opposite conference, the tiebreaker for home-court advantage in a prospective Finals matchup would be determined by a random drawing."

So I'm guessing head-to-head doesn't count.
Shit's confusing.

I'd stick with the layout I provided.

[ArbitraryWater]

that's why.
if they have the same record, head to head record, and same conference record.

You were wrong you know... its record vs opposite conference

[Westbrook0]

Jesus, I made this thread two years ago - are we still trying to figure this out?

And I was apparently really pissed off when I made this.