View Full Version : I just can't see it...
305Baller
04-25-2012, 11:25 AM
The Miami Heat , although favorites, will not win the title this year. The team is a mess, they have regressed again under Spo throughout the season. Right now there is no groove. Bosh had a bad year, Wade had a bad year... the frontcourt and bench have no consistency in their play...
I will be very surprised if they win it all.
They will be out in the 2nd round.
:coleman:
D-Wade316
04-25-2012, 11:30 AM
The Miami Heat , although favorites, will not win the title this year. The team is a mess, they have regressed again under Spo throughout the season. Right now there is no groove. Bosh had a bad year, Wade had a bad year... the frontcourt and bench have no consistency in their play...
I will be very surprised if they win it all.
They will be out in the 2nd round.
:coleman:
:lebronamazed:
Kurosawa0
04-25-2012, 11:32 AM
I just don't know if they have the best team. Bosh has been very underwhelming, Wade has been inconsistent and the bench is completely suspect.
We saw last year that stopping Wade and LeBron for 4 games is tough, but it can be done. I think they'll at least get to the ECF and probably the Finals, but I think San Antonio or OKC could beat them.
My official pick is San Antonio over Miami in 6.
TheAesirsFinest
04-25-2012, 11:35 AM
The defense has regressed as well. A lot of teams have figured out how to take advantage of Miami's reliance on rotations.
They're too volatile to count out on any stage, but it's good to keep your expectations low.
Mamba
04-25-2012, 11:42 AM
im a heat fan.
i can't see it either. they just don't have the full pieces. unless miller, udonis and battier actually play basketball instead of being fillers on the court. then the heat could do something.
other than that they reall need to fire spoelstra and trade mr bosh.
D-Wade316
04-25-2012, 11:45 AM
The defense has regressed as well. A lot of teams have figured out how to take advantage of Miami's reliance on rotations.
They're too volatile to count out on any stage, but it's good to keep your expectations low.
Not so sure about that. Defending the 3 has been Miami's weakness all year long, but the past 5 games they've been holding down the 3 to 26.4%, which is a sign that they're preparing for the playoffs. I'm also expecting teams to shoot less efficiently on the 3 come playoff time. Paint defense have been the same, IMO. Although the double teams coming off screens need to be toned down.
iDunk
04-25-2012, 11:47 AM
The Miami Heat , although favorites, will not win the title this year. The team is a mess, they have regressed again under Spo throughout the season. Right now there is no groove. Bosh had a bad year, Wade had a bad year... the frontcourt and bench have no consistency in their play...
I will be very surprised if they win it all.
They will be out in the 1st round if they play the Knicks.
:coleman:
Fixed my nikkaaa.
NumberSix
04-25-2012, 11:48 AM
I'm 100% certain that the Heat will make the ECF, 80% that they make the finals, 50% that they win the championship.
305Baller
04-25-2012, 11:50 AM
LeBron has been saving the Heat's butts in the stretch run but he will not be able to when the playoff intensity hits, it's the same story as the Cavs... over-reliance on Bron.
LBJDW305
04-25-2012, 11:51 AM
I'm confident they will make it out of the east. If the lakers make it out of the west then we have a problem
Rnbizzle
04-25-2012, 11:51 AM
All hope is gone now.. You don't see it. :cry:
I am kindof 50/50 on it, they dont have the supporting cast/bench to do it (to win a championship).... but i believe still they could win it if Lebron-Wade-Bosh perform up to their standards... all of them 3 will be needed... i doubt also Wades health...
The best team always wins the championship, not the best player afterall........ and the best team reveals itself in the playoffs... thats when weaknesses reveals themselves for all teams...
305Baller
04-25-2012, 11:52 AM
All hope is gone now.. You don't see it. :cry:
let's cry toogether :cry:
DesertCat
04-25-2012, 11:58 AM
So much reverse jinx, the jinx might be jinxed.
I<3NBA
04-25-2012, 11:58 AM
i believed last year, but this year i really doubt it. their bench really leaves a lot to be desired. you saw it in the Celtics game. both benches played that match and the Celtics bench just beat the Heat bench, which struggled to score and only scored 66 points :facepalm
they really need Chalmers to play well and for Mike Miller and Shane Battier to hit their open shots. Haslem needs to hit that jumper as well. if these four play well, they have a chance winning. ofc that takes for granted that Lebron would show up. it doesn't matter if Wade or Bosh are off as long as Lebron and the supporting cast of Chalmers, Miller, Battier, and Haslem are playing great. they will beat anybody.
Whoah10115
04-25-2012, 11:59 AM
You know what...I agree.
Not completely. Unless the Knicks can get the 6th seed and put it together, I don't see the Heat losing in the 2nd round. But they're not good at all. They were better last year. And the Bulls, who I always say are not that great (and they are) make me wanna see them go far.
I like the Celtics. We'll see on the Knicks and Pacers.
All Net
04-25-2012, 11:59 AM
If Miami don't win it all then bulls will IMO... All the concerns about miami are valid. If bulls can get heathly they will be damn tough. So will OKC.
Whoah10115
04-25-2012, 12:05 PM
im a heat fan.
i can't see it either. they just don't have the full pieces. unless miller, udonis and battier actually play basketball instead of being fillers on the court. then the heat could do something.
other than that they reall need to fire spoelstra and trade mr bosh.
This is 100% correct. And it's why Charles Barkley is very wrong on this team. He keeps going on about how Lebron has to do everything and it makes less than 0 sense. The other best player in the league is Wade. He can't just turn it on in the playoffs because the team dynamic will have to change. And his coach doesn't get that. Obviously, neither does Wade.
It would be hilarious if the Heat decided that either one of Wade or Lebron had to be traded (and I imagine it'd be Lebron). That just means 0 titles for the Heat.
305Baller
04-25-2012, 12:08 PM
The Heat's youth movement was a complete failure and it's attempt to upgrade the 5 laughable at best although I liked the desperate move to bring Turiaf. Spo just didnt use the centers he was given at preseason at all... and if you want a microcosm of the Heat's regression just look at Norris Cole.
coin24
04-25-2012, 12:09 PM
Miami (Lebron) blew there golden chance last year. This year the East is much harder to go through, and the top seeds in the west are also better. Spurs take it imo.
I honestly see the heat imploding this year. The bench has been horible all season and Spo's rotations and all around cluelessness are going to hurt them. Bosh has played shit all season, Wade very inconsistent, and you know Lebron will fade when its all on the line....
Titanic cruise:banana:
I agree that right now, they aren't good enough. They are just one of a handful of teams that have a shot.
They really need some production from their role players. It's sad but I wouldn't bet on either Haslem/Joel/Turiaf getting a double-double and either Miller/Battier/Jones getting 15+ points happening 2 or 3 times in a 7 game series.
They are really going to need the Big 3 stepping up.
I<3NBA
04-25-2012, 12:13 PM
i'm still mystified as to what happened to this team post all star break. they were ashing everyone before the all star break. what happened?
All Net
04-25-2012, 12:15 PM
Will be interesting if they can turn it on come playoff time same goes for the other contenders.
305Baller
04-25-2012, 12:16 PM
i'm still mystified as to what happened to this team post all star break. they were ashing everyone before the all star break. what happened?
they hit some kind of wall, maybe fatigue, maybe the laegue was out of shape coming back... i dunno.
:confusedshrug:
Unfortunately as a Laker fan, I can see it.
I can only realistically see two teams winning it this year and those teams are OKC and MIA.
The Bulls looked good with and without Rose, but Rose missing so many games and coming in unhealthy is going to be hard on them in the playoffs. Not sure if they can adjust in time.
SAS looked amazing in the regular season, but I don't see them as favorites to win it. I think they benefited more than anyone in the shortened season because pop is a smart coach and extended his rotation to preserve his starters. So, while other teams were playing beat up and tired, the Spurs were well rested.
I did think the Lakers had a minute possibility at the title until Artest's elbow. Artest doesn't strike me as a mentally strong person and he's going to be ineffective when he comes back. Too bad because he was on a roll and playing extremely well before the incident.
pegasus
04-25-2012, 12:28 PM
Reading this thread almost makes me feel bad for the Heat. Awww, they've got only two superstars, and another all-star. They've got only a handful of proven role players. Their C rotation is not the best in the league; they don't even have a Howard or a Bynum type player.:cry:
Reality:
Wade/Miller/Jones
Lebron/Battier/Miller
Bosh/Haslem
Miami has the best rotations in the league at three positions as shown above, and you guys are gonna cry about the other two? And Chalmers, Turiaf, and Anthony are all capable players, whether it's on offense or defense, or both.
Enough with the excuses. If they don't win it all this year, it's all on Lebron and/or Wade, depending on how certain things play out.
O_City_Thunder
04-25-2012, 12:28 PM
I'm not sure if they will the championship, but I think they will come out of the East. If the Spurs make to the finals I think they will beat Miami in a 7 game series.
nathanjizzle
04-25-2012, 12:29 PM
a heat fan not in delusion:applause:
D-Wade316
04-25-2012, 12:32 PM
Reading this thread almost makes me feel bad for the Heat. Awww, they've got only two superstars, and another all-star. They've got only a handful of proven role players. Their C rotation is not the best in the league; they don't even have a Howard or a Bynum type player.:cry:
Reality:
Wade/Miller/Jones
Lebron/Battier/Miller
Bosh/Haslem
Miami has the best rotations in the league at three positions as shown above, and you guys are gonna cry about the other two? And Chalmers, Turiaf, and Anthony are all capable players, whether it's on offense or defense, or both.
Enough with the excuses. If they don't win it all this year, it's all on Lebron and/or Wade, depending on how certain things play out.
Yeah. Don't know why some are bitching about the lineup. Just compare it to last year
PG: Bibby, Arroyo, House, Chalmers... :oldlol:
SG: Wade, Jones
SF: Lebron, Miller(injured)
PF: Bosh, Howard, Haslem(injured)
C: Anthony, Big Z, Dampier, Big Cat :roll: :roll: :roll:
I'm setting my expectations low, though. I can't be too arrogant with the current lineup.
Dengness9
04-25-2012, 12:39 PM
I don't know who is coming out of the West but here is the reality of the Heat's playoff hopes....
There is only 1 team in the eastern conference that can stop Miami from getting to the finals. That team is the Chicago Bulls.
No way in my right mind can i see the Heat losing to any other team in the east. No one.
I don't know if the Bulls can beat the Heat this year but I want everyone to understand something. Derrick Rose is rusty not hurt or injured. He has 2 more reg season games and at least the 1st round to come back around to his normal style of play. Don't right off the Bulls chances to make noise and/or beat the Heat cuz Rose is "hurt, hobbled, or injured", he isn't.
The major injury concern for the Bulls is Deng's wrist. Deng injuring the wrist any further could really hurt his game. After that, Rip Hamilton's health is the 2nd most important thing for the Bulls. Dude has been playing the way Bulls fans envisioned FINALLY. Scoring in double digits every game for the last 2 weeks at least and going for 15-20+ on a regular basis.
Tmuston Beltics
04-25-2012, 12:41 PM
In the beginning of the season you could get like less than 3 odds for the Heat to win the championship.. Rather took Clippers with 100 to 1 odds. Lol let's go Clippers :applause: :applause:
Funnyfuka
04-25-2012, 12:43 PM
The Miami Heat , although favorites, will not win the title this year. The team is a mess, they have regressed again under Spo throughout the season. Right now there is no groove. Bosh had a bad year, Wade had a bad year... the frontcourt and bench have no consistency in their play...
I will be very surprised if they win it all.
They will be out in the 2nd round.
:coleman:
they wont win.
Bosh + wade+lebron still dont make a good team. You need more. A better coach, better team chemistry, better role players. They didnt change the least, they re still the same with the same problems.
FKAri
04-25-2012, 12:43 PM
i'm still mystified as to what happened to this team post all star break. they were ashing everyone before the all star break. what happened?
Maybe they ran outta steam? :confusedshrug:
I always see people quick to blame Spo or a coach in general when a team's play is difficult to explain. It's kind of silly. I would only blame Spo for playoff struggles because in-game adjustments is the one thing Spo wouldn't be getting much help for. In the regular season I'm sure he's on the phone with Pat Riley all the time when it comes to these kind of overarching team decision making like the center situation. Assistant coaches help a ton with stuff too (not as much in playoff games as things are less experimental and asst. coaches are more inclined to yield to authority).
This team is still volatile. It can go off on anyone and disappoint just as well. I think their struggles are due to several major factors in order of importance:
1. Curry, Pittman, Anthony, whoever else...cannot play C
2. Mario Chalmers losing his 3pt touch just as Mike Miller got hurt. This kills the 3pt shooting which has a domino effect on EVERY ASPECT of Miami's play.
3. Wade has been in-n-out this season
4. Bosh STILL hasn't found his niche (if this is it, he's wasting the team's money and the team is wasting his talents)
HEAT111
04-25-2012, 12:43 PM
I don't know who is coming out of the West but here is the reality of the Heat's playoff hopes....
There is only 1 team in the eastern conference that can stop Miami from getting to the finals. That team is the Chicago Bulls.No way in my right mind can i see the Heat losing to any other team in the east. No one.
I don't know if the Bulls can beat the Heat this year but I want everyone to understand something. Derrick Rose is rusty not hurt or injured. He has 2 more reg season games and at least the 1st round to come back around to his normal style of play. Don't right off the Bulls chances to make noise and/or beat the Heat cuz Rose is "hurt, hobbled, or injured", he isn't.
The major injury concern for the Bulls is Deng's wrist. Deng injuring the wrist any further could really hurt his game. After that, Rip Hamilton's health is the 2nd most important thing for the Bulls. Dude has been playing the way Bulls fans envisioned FINALLY. Scoring in double digits every game for the last 2 weeks at least and going for 15-20+ on a regular basis.
I know what you're saying, as a Heat fan; I'm more worried about the Celtics than the Bulls.
1rkrage
04-25-2012, 12:46 PM
Championship Cruise :pimp:
Alamo
04-25-2012, 12:48 PM
Heat will sweep every single team and then win the championship. :pimp:
All Net
04-25-2012, 12:48 PM
I know what you're saying, as a Heat fan; I'm more worried about the Celtics than the Bulls.
Why worry about a team who You likely won't face?
coin24
04-25-2012, 12:49 PM
Did they even try Curry??:confusedshrug:
You cant complain about the heats role players when they spent there whole cap on 3 guys:facepalm
You need superstars at every position now??
Dengness9
04-25-2012, 12:51 PM
I know what you're saying, as a Heat fan; I'm more worried about the Celtics than the Bulls.
I can understand why you say you are worried about the Celtics, but you really shouldn't be more worried about them than the Bulls.
Celtics won't even play the Heat in the playoffs most likely anyway. If the Celtics beat the Bulls in the 2nd round, then yes, I would say be worried cuz that means the C's are playing out of their minds.
Bulls wouldn't lose a series to the Celtics though. Celts don't matchup well with the Bulls. Bulls are deeper, bigger, younger but experienced nonetheless.
HEAT111
04-25-2012, 12:52 PM
Why worry about a team who You likely won't face?
I know that they have beaten the Celtics, but if anyone noticed Garnett has been playing very well. That did not happen last post-season. Ray Allen may be out. When the Bulls meet the Celtics, it's not going to be an easy grind.
HEAT111
04-25-2012, 12:57 PM
I can understand why you say you are worried about the Celtics, but you really shouldn't be more worried about them than the Bulls.
Celtics won't even play the Heat in the playoffs most likely anyway. If the Celtics beat the Bulls in the 2nd round, then yes, I would say be worried cuz that means the C's are playing out of their minds.
Bulls wouldn't lose a series to the Celtics though. Celts don't matchup well with the Bulls. Bulls are deeper, bigger, younger but experienced nonetheless.
Exactly.
Now, the only reason why I'm not too worried about the Bulls. I know they're a "GREAT" team, but do they have an actual "KNOCKOUT" punch? And what I'm trying to mean by that, they got to hit us harder. We had games last season that Bosh went for 30, in Game 5 Wade and James showed up. When Udonis came back into the rotation, the momentum shifted. Although in this season, CJ Watson, Lucas have been really GREAT Solidly. Now Rip needs it going and once Rose starts DRIVING...ok then, they can beat the Heat.
TheMan
04-25-2012, 01:17 PM
As a Bulls fan, the Heat have as good a shot as any team to win it all this year, sure they are flawed but every team out there has it's flaws. As long as they have the best player in the NBA today, they can win it all, LBJ just needs to step it up in the Finals.
TheMan
04-25-2012, 01:21 PM
This is 100% correct. And it's why Charles Barkley is very wrong on this team. He keeps going on about how Lebron has to do everything and it makes less than 0 sense. The other best player in the league is Wade. He can't just turn it on in the playoffs because the team dynamic will have to change. And his coach doesn't get that. Obviously, neither does Wade.
It would be hilarious if the Heat decided that either one of Wade or Lebron had to be traded (and I imagine it'd be Lebron). That just means 0 titles for the Heat.
The smart basketball move would be to trade Wade for a decent PG/C combo if they can swing that but of course the 7 real Heat fans would go nuts so I don't see that happening.
Mr. Incredible
04-25-2012, 01:24 PM
I can see it. They have LeBron, Wade, & Bosh.
I<3NBA
04-25-2012, 01:35 PM
I don't know who is coming out of the West but here is the reality of the Heat's playoff hopes....
There is only 1 team in the eastern conference that can stop Miami from getting to the finals. That team is the Chicago Bulls.
*looks at name of poster*
:kobe:
inclinerator
04-25-2012, 01:47 PM
im confident they will win it this yr
derb2k2
04-25-2012, 01:50 PM
what in da f*k is going on in this thread? Wade and LBJ won't let us down this year guys! have faith! curses aren't real!
pegasus
04-25-2012, 01:55 PM
what in da f*k is going on in this thread? Wade and LBJ won't let us down this year guys! have faith! curses aren't real!
Someone finally spoke like a true bandwagon Heat fan!! Kudos.:applause:
ihoopallday
04-25-2012, 02:04 PM
Miami had it's best chance last year and blew it :facepalm Sometimes I wonder why LeBron left Cleveland. How can you be that good with mediocre teammates, then have two all stars and not win. He's my favorite player, but damn he pisses me off sometimes.
Glide2keva
04-25-2012, 02:06 PM
Miami had it's best chance last year and blew it :facepalm Sometimes I wonder why LeBron left Cleveland. How can you be that good with mediocre teammates, then have two all stars and not win. He's my favorite player, but damn he pisses me off sometimes.
I said the same thing that last year was their best shot to win it.
LBJDW305
04-25-2012, 02:08 PM
Heat will mae it out of the east...It will depend on Lebron wether he shows up or not tp play in the finals
themurph
04-25-2012, 02:16 PM
The Miami Heat , although favorites, will not win the title this year. The team is a mess, they have regressed again under Spo throughout the season. Right now there is no groove. Bosh had a bad year, Wade had a bad year... the frontcourt and bench have no consistency in their play...
I will be very surprised if they win it all.
They will be out in the 2nd round.
:coleman:
They may not win the championship this year. But it won't be because of Bosh having a bad year (He actually had a pretty good year and came through for the Heat when Wade was injured)...
They simply don't have a bench....And beyond James and Bosh, they have no consistent rebounding.....Add some suspect coaching, and that's the real issue...Not the lazy talking points that seem to be a part of ISH...
And this is coming from a Bulls fan...
FindingTim
04-25-2012, 02:27 PM
I agree. Unless you have Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen, you need low post players to win it all.
(and Horace Grant could play)
Joel "I'm 6'8 and uncoordinated" Anthony and Chris "I shoot 18 foot jumpers" Bosh aren't going to cut it.
It's essentially Lebron and Dwyane vs. all.
They are only two guys. You need a team to win.
They will have to be spectacular every game.
There are more "complete" teams across the league that will give them trouble.
I think Chicago, Boston, LA, San Antonio, OKC, Memphis and even New York have an excellent chance to beat Miami in a series. I really don't feel confident in Miami at all. If Lebron is any less than dominant, they struggle.
The media will emasculate Lebron if he comes up short this year, but I won't hold it against him. People point to Wade and Bosh as sufficient help, but when you scan over the whole roster, it doesn't have the look of a championship team, especially with the inconsistency of Wade and Bosh.
so, to mirror the thread title, "I just can't see it..."
Glide2keva
04-25-2012, 02:29 PM
Now Heat fans please go back to being cocky and arrogant and ttrolling the board. I can't take this woe is us crap.
Championship Cruise remember?
LBJDW305
04-25-2012, 02:36 PM
Now Heat fans please go back to being cocky and arrogant and ttrolling the board. I can't take this woe is us crap.
Championship Cruise remember?
Go back to making yourself believe the knicks will beat the heat :roll:
Funnyfuka
04-25-2012, 02:41 PM
The smart basketball move would be to trade Wade for a decent PG/C combo if they can swing that but of course the 7 real Heat fans would go nuts so I don't see that happening.
my thoughts exactly. Either wade or bosh. They need to get rid of one of them to acquire a better supporting cast in return. LEbron and wade are REDUNDANT, walking on each others toe everytime they re both on the court at the same time, you dont need two michael jordan in one team, even if you have them, you still need a team behind them. Jordan didnt win alone, he had a team behind him. And he had the charisma to lead them, not sure about the "charisma" of those young spoiled immature brats nowadays. They re alrdy multimmilonairs, where could they find the motivation to win a ring? Heat is just a poorly assembled patchwork of great talent that just dont fit together. Real teams with better chemistry still have more chances to win it all when it truly matters. They do well based on youth and explosiveness only, not on team chemistry. And everytime they reach the moment that matters, they lack the steam, they alrdy gave it all. You cant win a chip relying only on muscles, you also need brains.
What wins chips is a good coach that is respected, a great player seconded by a leutnant/second option, and a decent , balanced supporting cast. You need genuine people with genuine friendships.
All Net
04-25-2012, 02:46 PM
I said the same thing that last year was their best shot to win it.
Really? I thought last year was their free pass. First year together, terrible depth, Haslem and miller both hurt.
If anything last year was said to be the year where teams could beat them. This year? No excuses really...
Glide2keva
04-25-2012, 02:48 PM
Go back to making yourself believe the knicks will beat the heat :roll:
You still trolling?
pegasus
04-25-2012, 03:05 PM
Really? I thought last year was their free pass. First year together, terrible depth, Haslem and miller both hurt.
If anything last year was said to be the year where teams could beat them. This year? No excuses really...
In terms of excuses, yes. They had that "It's our first year together" excuse, but the way the things played out, it did wind up being their best chance to win a ring.
Wade breaking Rondo's arm in the second round, facing the inexperienced Bulls in the ECF, and matching up against a weaker-than-usual West Champion in the finals made it a lot more possible for them to win in their first year together.
This year, they are not much better, but the opponents are. It's gonna be more difficult, and the pressure will be higher.
dynasty1978
04-25-2012, 03:07 PM
Heat fans are lowering expectations to soften the fall.
Well played. :lol
EnoughSaid
04-25-2012, 03:07 PM
What the hell man?! Honestly. How can you say that after knowing that LeBron and Wade always turn it up in the Playoffs? The Heat haven't taken the regular season seriously, and are just waiting for the Playoffs. They are much better this year, and wait for it. Just wait until they reach the Finals and then this will be bumped when they are holding up the title.
Stern
04-25-2012, 03:09 PM
Are people still using Rondo's arm as an excuse?:lol
Heat were already up 2-0 at that point. But this year Celtics are marching to the finals to take on Duncan and the spurs.:rockon:
LBJDW305
04-25-2012, 03:11 PM
You still trolling?
You still mad brah?
swi7ch
04-25-2012, 03:16 PM
all of this talk is nonsense as these issues all happened during the regular season. heat are different team once playoff mode is activated. having said that i still think they;ll lose to okc in the finals.
Heavincent
04-25-2012, 04:13 PM
Really? I thought last year was their free pass. First year together, terrible depth, Haslem and miller both hurt.
If anything last year was said to be the year where teams could beat them. This year? No excuses really...
Last year wasn't a free pass. Stop making excuses. They choked. Simple as that. They were expected to win, and they lost. They deserve all of the criticism they got.
305Baller
04-25-2012, 04:22 PM
What the hell man?! Honestly. How can you say that after knowing that LeBron and Wade always turn it up in the Playoffs? The Heat haven't taken the regular season seriously, and are just waiting for the Playoffs. They are much better this year, and wait for it. Just wait until they reach the Finals and then this will be bumped when they are holding up the title.
if you want a longer explanation read THIS (http://heatbball.wordpress.com/2012/04/25/update-4-25-12/)
Glide2keva
04-25-2012, 04:39 PM
What the hell man?! Honestly. How can you say that after knowing that LeBron and Wade always turn it up in the Playoffs? The Heat haven't taken the regular season seriously, and are just waiting for the Playoffs. They are much better this year, and wait for it. Just wait until they reach the Finals and then this will be bumped when they are holding up the title.
Remember they said the same thing last year.
Oh, wait last year doesn't count when it makes the heat look bad.
My bad.
Glide2keva
04-25-2012, 04:40 PM
You still mad brah?
Never was idiot.
Kurosawa0
04-25-2012, 04:46 PM
Really? I thought last year was their free pass. First year together, terrible depth, Haslem and miller both hurt.
If anything last year was said to be the year where teams could beat them. This year? No excuses really...
If they don't win it this year, one of the three has to be moved.
I had the idea of Bosh to Phoenix for Gortat and Frye. I have to believe both sides would do that.
Either way, if Miami doesn't win this year, I'd expect at least some sort of shake up. We all remember what Pat did to the team that lost in 2005.
305Baller
04-25-2012, 04:48 PM
If they don't win it this year, one of the three has to be moved.
I had the idea of Bosh to Phoenix for Gortat and Frye. I have to believe both sides would do that.
Either way, if Miami doesn't win this year, I'd expect at least some sort of shake up. We all remember what Pat did to the team that lost in 2005.
Bosh for Cousins would be a boon.
Glide2keva
04-25-2012, 04:51 PM
Bosh for Cousins would be a boon.
You would curse the day that trade was made.
Kurosawa0
04-25-2012, 04:53 PM
Bosh for Cousins would be a boon.
Don't see either team doing that. Houston obviously seems like a trading partner.
Denver also seems like a team with a lot of assets ready to be moved. Maybe something like Ty Lawson and McGee.
chairman
04-25-2012, 04:57 PM
What the hell man?! Honestly. How can you say that after knowing that LeBron and Wade always turn it up in the Playoffs? The Heat haven't taken the regular season seriously, and are just waiting for the Playoffs. They are much better this year, and wait for it. Just wait until they reach the Finals and then this will be bumped when they are holding up the title.
You're a bandwagon fan that has been watching the NBA for 3 years. Your opinion doesn't mean shit cause you're not a real Heat fan. I respect OP so much more for this thread. :cheers: Heat vs Bulls will be a good series.
305Baller
04-25-2012, 04:58 PM
Don't see either team doing that. Houston obviously seems like a trading partner.
Denver also seems like a team with a lot of assets ready to be moved. Maybe something like Ty Lawson and McGee.
Thats not enough value for Bosh but the 5 at least would be shored up... the frontcourt would lose a ton of offense.
I do like both Lawson and McGee, great young pieces. The 4 would be thin for Miami post-trade...
cteach111
04-25-2012, 04:59 PM
The media will emasculate Lebron if he comes up short this year, but I won't hold it against him. People point to Wade and Bosh as sufficient help, but when you scan over the whole roster, it doesn't have the look of a championship team, especially with the inconsistency of Wade and Bosh.
Wade and Bosh are now inconsistent? wtf is this?
HEAT111
04-25-2012, 05:05 PM
Last year wasn't a free pass. Stop making excuses. They choked. Simple as that. They were expected to win, and they lost. They deserve all of the criticism they got.
"They" didn't choke, LeBron did. These two were really passive during the Finals, I'd have gladly seen Wade taking over but that didn't happen.
As for you, get your facts straight or get banned.
schism206
04-25-2012, 05:22 PM
Not one, not two, not three etc. etc.
Dengness9
04-25-2012, 05:58 PM
*looks at name of poster*
:kobe:
Good post.....idiot.
Never said the Bulls would beat the Heat, just that they are the only team that can.
Who do you think can beat the Heat?
Before you post nothing, and make no point or argument, try and actually have a meaning because you provide nothing on a daily basis as a poster.:hammerhead:
rodman91
04-25-2012, 07:05 PM
Kobe,Rose,Westbrook,Wade will decide for their own teams destiny this season.Wade must play hard like previous years, Kobe & Rose must trust his teammates more. Westbrook should not be loose cannon.
Spurs & Bulls has great team chemistry but matchups can be deadly for them.
Lakers,Mavs,Clippers,Celtics & Knicks still have star powers, they might be very different team in playoffs.
Lakers,Bulls & Heat might struggle because Bryant,Rose & Wade might wanna take more share in offense again.
Almost every team in playoffs seems vulnerable this season. It will be exciting, i guess.
Kurosawa0
04-25-2012, 07:09 PM
"They" didn't choke, LeBron did. These two were really passive during the Finals, I'd have gladly seen Wade taking over but that didn't happen.
As for you, get your facts straight or get banned.
Go back and watch them blow that 15 point lead in game 2. That was completely a "team choke." Every guy on the floor for Miami was afraid to shoot it.
HEAT111
04-25-2012, 07:22 PM
Go back and watch them blow that 15 point lead in game 2. That was completely a "team choke." Every guy on the floor for Miami was afraid to shoot it.
I wouldn't say they choked on that game, its more like a banished.
Kurosawa0
04-25-2012, 07:50 PM
I wouldn't say they choked on that game, its more like a banished.
No, that was choking. Wade, LeBron, Bosh, Haslem etc. All of them looked completely clueless and afraid to shoot. If any one of them knocks down just one more jumper in those last 5 minutes Miami probably would be the defending champs.
lakerspng
04-25-2012, 07:57 PM
hate to say it, but the Heat need to trade Wade. They're redundant in the way they play. They should maximize his trade potential to get a COMPLIMENTARY star for LeBron while he's still in his prime. Wade's seen his best days and will decline far quicker than LeBron will. will not be a popular move until they win a championship.
FindingTim
04-25-2012, 08:32 PM
Wade and Bosh are now inconsistent? wtf is this?
reality.
macpierce
04-25-2012, 08:50 PM
lebron needs hakeem as well........:oldlol:
BallsOut
04-25-2012, 09:19 PM
I just don't know if they have the best team. Bosh has been very underwhelming, Wade has been inconsistent and the bench is completely suspect.
We saw last year that stopping Wade and LeBron for 4 games is tough, but it can be done. I think they'll at least get to the ECF and probably the Finals, but I think San Antonio or OKC could beat them.
My official pick is San Antonio over Miami in 6.
:oldlol: at this bandwagoner. Last year you root for the Heat now this year the Spurs? :facepalm
BallsOut
04-25-2012, 09:19 PM
im a heat fan.
i can't see it either. they just don't have the full pieces. unless miller, udonis and battier actually play basketball instead of being fillers on the court. then the heat could do something.
other than that they reall need to fire spoelstra and trade mr bosh.
You're not a heat fan. You were a self proclaimed Cavs fan not too long ago. Bandwagoners make me sick. :facepalm
BallsOut
04-25-2012, 09:20 PM
they wont win.
Bosh + wade+lebron still dont make a good team. You need more. A better coach, better team chemistry, better role players. They didnt change the least, they re still the same with the same problems.
Yea they need Dwight Howard and Deron Williams
PG: DWill
SG: Wade
SF: Lebron
PF: Bosh
C: Dwight
305Baller
04-26-2012, 01:16 AM
They could always trade Wade and Bosh for A McGee/Cousins frontcourt, a SG and a 6th man (salary dumps).... just sayin.
C McGee/Anthony/Turiaf etc
PF Cousins/Haslem/Turiaf
SF Bron/Battier/Miller
SG Jones/Miller/Harris
PG Chalmers/Cole
Then, add the 2 pieces (maybe Lawson, and some other guy) and thats a deep ass team.
LakersReign
04-26-2012, 03:09 AM
The Miami Heat , although favorites, will not win the title this year. The team is a mess, they have regressed again under Spo throughout the season. Right now there is no groove. Bosh had a bad year, Wade had a bad year... the frontcourt and bench have no consistency in their play...
I will be very surprised if they win it all.
They will be out in the 2nd round.
:coleman:
I've always said the Heat's best chance to win was last year. But they walked into the Finals with "swagga" they never earned and got b***hslapped by the Mavs. Now, teams know their weaknesses and are using them to their advantage. Riley would've been better off re-signing Wade and signing Bosh, letting Lebron got to another team. People said he and Wade would cancel out each other and they were right. Playing 3-on-5 can only get you so far as last years' Finals proved. Riley gambled on signing Lebron and winning a title on name only. They better pray they don't face Boston in the second round.
DTreats
04-26-2012, 03:18 AM
OP is a bitch.
Man up, Fan up!
comerb
04-26-2012, 04:32 AM
They played a stretch of basketball of about 10 games in the first half of the season that was the best I've seen since the 95' bulls. But they have been absolutely carried by Lebron since the allstar break. Bosh hasnt did shit, Wade is inconsistent, and the Heat's bench(and Chalmers) has went full retard in its ability to hit an open basket. It's really a matter of which team shows up.
SpaceJammeR
04-26-2012, 05:35 AM
I just don't know if they have the best team. Bosh has been very underwhelming, Wade has been inconsistent and the bench is completely suspect.
We saw last year that stopping Wade and LeBron for 4 games is tough, but it can be done. I think they'll at least get to the ECF and probably the Finals, but I think San Antonio or OKC could beat them.
My official pick is San Antonio over Miami in 6.
This. Def agree.
They'll either lose in the ECF or Finals. If they win I'll be really surprised. Their bench and front court just won't cut it. Unless lebron and wade plays god mode they won't win it.
Miami2010Champs
06-22-2012, 12:31 AM
bump
LBJDW305
06-22-2012, 05:45 AM
I'm confident they will make it out of the east. If the lakers make it out of the west then we have a problem
:lebronamazed:
I<3NBA
06-22-2012, 06:37 AM
i believed last year, but this year i really doubt it. their bench really leaves a lot to be desired. you saw it in the Celtics game. both benches played that match and the Celtics bench just beat the Heat bench, which struggled to score and only scored 66 points :facepalm
they really need Chalmers to play well and for Mike Miller and Shane Battier to hit their open shots. Haslem needs to hit that jumper as well. if these four play well, they have a chance winning. ofc that takes for granted that Lebron would show up. it doesn't matter if Wade or Bosh are off as long as Lebron and the supporting cast of Chalmers, Miller, Battier, and Haslem are playing great. they will beat anybody.
:lebronamazed:
^ Called it. :applause:
Calling what most people have been saying? :eek: Mind bogglin!
The Miami Heat , although favorites, will not win the title this year. The team is a mess, they have regressed again under Spo throughout the season. Right now there is no groove. Bosh had a bad year, Wade had a bad year... the frontcourt and bench have no consistency in their play...
I will be very surprised if they win it all.
They will be out in the 2nd round.
:coleman:
You just turned in your Heat pass. Fake ass Heat fan.
LBJDW305
06-22-2012, 07:04 AM
Crazy part is...WE WILL BE EVEN BETTER NEXT SEASON. A real training camp this year and our only real flaw is...size so now we know what to look for.
Crazy part is...WE WILL BE EVEN BETTER NEXT SEASON. A real training camp this year and our only real flaw is...size so now we know what to look for.
Miami wont be any better than they have shown the past two seasons. And trying to add players will still be difficult as you search for the clearance rack for good deals and HOPE like Battier did, they help. Even the role players throughout the season werent good, inconsistent etc. Have fun signing Kwame Brown. Miami we see is basically what we'll expect until the Big 3 split or or barring some significant injury (knock on wood)
Calling what most people have been saying? :eek: Mind bogglin!
Whatever, it's just the internet, I was being nice. :oldlol:
I<3NBA
06-22-2012, 08:15 AM
Crazy part is...WE WILL BE EVEN BETTER NEXT SEASON. A real training camp this year and our only real flaw is...size so now we know what to look for.
actually, the second run is harder to win than the first. a lot of players that get their first ring lose motivation the season after. in their eyes, they've already achieved their life goal. be hard to push most of that cast to work harder next season. i'm betting this Heat team would continue partying until a week before tip-off next season. everyone of them except for Lebron and Bosh will come back out of shape.
LBJDW305
06-22-2012, 08:19 AM
This team wasn't built for one championship as Riley said...and lebron knows that.
theaussieguy
06-22-2012, 08:20 AM
Omg Op U Must Be Lyk So Embarrased Right Now Lyk Totally
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