I feel bad for NY right now

[RazorBaLade]

They have a normal team with a nice superstar hes doing OK nice balanced attack.. but what can you do against a team with 2? How do you beat a team that has a guy that can go 11-18 for 25 pts in a playoff game, fairly consistently, and hes not even the best player on the team?

I can't wait to see if they manage to lose this year.

[lbj23clutch]

If Dirk can do it, why can't Melo?

[BallsOut]

It's pretty hard to beat a team with 3 superstar players, which is unprecedented in this league. Bunch of cowards banding together to win a ring because they can't take a challenge. That's how I'll remember the Miami Heat.

[28renyoy]

They have a normal team with a nice superstar hes doing OK nice balanced attack.. but what can you do against a team with 2? How do you beat a team that has a guy that can go 11-18 for 25 pts in a playoff game, fairly consistently, and hes not even the best player on the team?

I can't wait to see if they manage to lose this year.

The Spurs are a better team than the Heat and the Thunder are better at positions 1-5 including the bench.

Both beat the Heat, would be surprised if it even made it to a game 7

[DStebb716]

It's just a bad storm for the Knicks. Facing the best team in the NBA. The reffing has clearly gone in the Heat's favor (but it wouldn't matter, Heat still would've won this series in all likeliness).

[RoseCity07]

I don't, overrated team that has a bunch of wannabe thugs on it that can't compete against real talent.

JR Smith is a beast only when nothing is on the line. Amare is a bum, and so is Carmelo Anthony.

[R.I.P.]

If Dirk can do it, why can't Melo?

Because Dirk is much better than Melo. That was easy. :lol

[DStebb716]

If Dirk can do it, why can't Melo?

Because Melo's supporting cast isn't as good as/as fitting as Dirk's. Plus the chemistry there sucks. Melo is better than Dirk, but just can't take over when every ounce of attention is on him. Dirk had a few bad games in the playoffs last year that saw him get backed up by Jet and crew. Melo doesn't have that luxury.

If Dirk had a less-talented and slower version of himself at another position, he would be in the same boat as Melo.

[Draz]

There's nothing to be said about playing this Heat team. Their obviously an elite team and their coming together trusting one another against a team that seem to not know anything and going for the 0-12 playoff record. Hopefully we put up a fight at home, otherwise then that were done. I don't see us winning this series and any Knick fan that see otherwise is obviously delusional.

[lilgodfather1]

How can somene feel bad for that POS city and team?

[BallsOut]

I don't, overrated team that has a bunch of wannabe thugs on it that can't compete against real talent.

JR Smith is a beast only when nothing is on the line. Amare is a bum, and so is Carmelo Anthony.

Sounds like every Blazer team from 99 to 2010, just saying :confusedshrug:

[DuMa]

idiots had their chances of tanking to face chicago instead of this Heat team. they. they blew it

[LABean]

Because Dirk is much better than Melo. That was easy. :lol

:oldlol: :oldlol: :applause:

[MeLO MvP 15]

If Dirk can do it, why can't Melo?
Dirk beat Dwyane Wade and somebody who is nothing like this LeBron right now.

Seriously, comparing LeBron in last years Finals to LeBron right now is like comparing Mario Chalmers to Chris Paul.

[TeamLAC]

Because Melo's supporting cast isn't as good as/as fitting as Dirk's. Plus the chemistry there sucks. Melo is better than Dirk, but just can't take over when every ounce of attention is on him. Dirk had a few bad games in the playoffs last year that saw him get backed up by Jet and crew. Melo doesn't have that luxury.

If Dirk had a less-talented and slower version of himself at another position, he would be in the same boat as Melo.
Then how is he better? :confusedshrug:

[RoseCity07]

Sounds like every Blazer team from 99 to 2010, just saying :confusedshrug:

You means 99-2005. Plus don't ever compare this shit New York squad to to those teams that made it to the Western Conference finals. Knicks can't even get out of the first round.

[chairman]

Refs ruined this series. Terrible calls for bitch ass wade and lebron. :applause: Even if the knicks would've lost both at least make the game watchable. Lost all respect for the whining ass heat

[Trentknicks]

Refs ruined this series. Terrible calls for bitch ass wade and lebron. :applause: Even if the knicks would've lost both at least make the game watchable. Lost all respect for the whining ass heat
This.
Doesn't help that we are missing our starting back court and that Chandler is playing with the flu but the refereeing is a joke. Everyone's going to remember the Heat as a bunch of flopping, whingy b!tches

[RazorBaLade]

Dirk beat Dwyane Wade and somebody who is nothing like this LeBron right now.

Seriously, comparing LeBron in last years Finals to LeBron right now is like comparing Mario Chalmers to Chris Paul.

My thoughts exactly.

Want to beat the Heat?

Meet them in a later round and have enough firepower to keep it close until the 4th quarter. That is your *chance*, because lebron so far hasn't been able to show up. Oh, also have a historically clutch player that is playing incredibly well in those 4th quarters. Thats what it takes, and thats ridiculous.

Theres still some remaining teams that can do it, but damn.. No one is dreaming of blowing this team out though and I don't think thats ever happened in the nba.

[Clutch]

As a Knick fan I finally learned something.
Never hope your team can do anything because you're going to get disappointed.
I hoped last year against the Celtics = sweep
I hoped this year against the Heat - might be a sweep

Just tough to watch. Laugh as much as you want. You have every right to do so. I would probably laugh too if I weren't a Knicks fan.

[Apogee]

Refs ruined this series. Terrible calls for bitch ass wade and lebron. :applause: Even if the knicks would've lost both at least make the game watchable. Lost all respect for the whining ass heat

Im with you that game 1 was lopsided. But come on. When melo is dropping 30 and has no one else to back him up what do you expect. Also knicks defense. :facepalm :facepalm

[D-Wade316]

Melo is better than Dirk
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[d21221hk]

idiots had their chances of tanking to face chicago instead of this Heat team. they. they blew it
this.

[Human Error]

Because Melo's supporting cast isn't as good as/as fitting as Dirk's. Plus the chemistry there sucks. Melo is better than Dirk, but just can't take over when every ounce of attention is on him. Dirk had a few bad games in the playoffs last year that saw him get backed up by Jet and crew. Melo doesn't have that luxury.

If Dirk had a less-talented and slower version of himself at another position, he would be in the same boat as Melo.
Face it. Dirk is way better than Carmelo.

[KingBeasley08]

As a Knick fan I finally learned something.
Never hope your team can do anything because you're going to get disappointed.
I hoped last year against the Celtics = sweep
I hoped this year against the Heat - might be a sweep

Just tough to watch. Laugh as much as you want. You have every right to do so. I would probably laugh too if I weren't a Knicks fan.
Ok.



:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Blue&Orange]

You means 99-2005. Plus don't ever compare this shit New York squad to to those teams that made it to the Western Conference finals. Knicks can't even get out of the first round.
This shit New New York squad shits all over the Blazzers. Still mad with the 40 points spanking i see :lol

[BallsOut]

You means 99-2005. Plus don't ever compare this shit New York squad to to those teams that made it to the Western Conference finals. Knicks can't even get out of the first round.

Oh my bad, I was wondering what year was the last of those jailblazers. Pryzbilla was pretty badass too :lol

[KingBeasley08]

This shit New New York squad shits all over the Blazzers. Still mad with the 40 points spanking i see :lol
:roll: :roll: :roll:
atleast that blazers team won a playoff game

[Celtic_Pride]

The only way to beat the Heat is take it inside and expose Bosh and Haslem!

[DStebb716]

Then how is he better? :confusedshrug:

Because Dirk never got the attention that Melo does. Dirk got a shitload of attention, but not like he is now. Also got a less-focused Heat team.

[Whoah10115]

The Knicks need a PG who is a leader. It is as simple as that. There's nothing else to it. For Lin to work as the starter right now, we have to change things up.

[asd]

The Knicks need a PG who is a leader. It is as simple as that. There's nothing else to it. For Lin to work as the starter right now, we have to change things up.

late in the game, wade was the smallest guy on the floor for the heat

with lin, without lin, what the knicks need doesn't matter

heat > knicks

sorry, knicks fans

[Whoah10115]

late in the game, wade was the smallest guy on the floor for the heat

with lin, without lin, what the knicks need doesn't matter

heat > knicks

sorry, knicks fans




I'm talking about Lin as our starting PG, moving forward.

[DirkNowitzki41]

If Dirk can do it, why can't Melo?

Because Dirk is wayyy better than Melo????

[miles berg]

If Dirk can do it, why can't Melo?

Because Dirk is a whole lot better than Melo.

[ClutchOver9000]

Dirk got consistent help from his supporting cast. Not the same for Melo.

I dont remember a single liability on that Mavs squad last year...

[DMAVS41]

They have a normal team with a nice superstar hes doing OK nice balanced attack.. but what can you do against a team with 2? How do you beat a team that has a guy that can go 11-18 for 25 pts in a playoff game, fairly consistently, and hes not even the best player on the team?

I can't wait to see if they manage to lose this year.


Well, the Thunder have 2....and a 3rd guy borderline as well.

The Lakers have 1 superstar, the 2nd best center, and an elite power forward.

In terms of star power....there are definitely comparable teams.

[BallsOut]

Well, the Thunder have 2....and a 3rd guy borderline as well.

The Lakers have 1 superstar, the 2nd best center, and an elite power forward.

In terms of star power....there are definitely comparable teams.

Let's be honest. The Heat have 3 superstar players. That's unprecedented. What the Mavs did last year to beat them is incredible, but probably won't happen again. 3 superstar players is way too much talent to overcome.

[gengiskhan]

I am Knicks fan forever

& I dont feel bad. I knew this was gonna happen

but Damn do I regret Knicks not staying on 8th Spot.

Imagine how badly knicks could've beaten Bulls without Rose. :facepalm

[InfiniteBaskets]

Let's be honest. The Heat have 3 superstar players. That's unprecedented. What the Mavs did last year to beat them is incredible, but probably won't happen again. 3 superstar players is way too much talent to overcome.

No they do not. I've never heard anyone call Bosh a superstar. I've also heard plenty of people claim that Wade has lost a step and that he's slowing down. I've heard how Wade is not a top 5 player etc... Most people throughout the season ranked LeBron, Dwight, Rose and Durant consistently above Wade. I wouldn't be surprised if most posters would rank CP3 and Kobe above Wade as well.

[Velocirap31]

No they do not. I've never heard anyone call Bosh a superstar. I've also heard plenty of people claim that Wade has lost a step and that he's slowing down. I've heard how Wade is not a top 5 player etc... Most people throughout the season ranked LeBron, Dwight, Rose and Durant consistently above Wade. I wouldn't be surprised if most posters would rank CP3 and Kobe above Wade as well.
Agreed. This team lives and dies with Lebron. Without him, they aren't making it far.

[gengiskhan]

No they do not. I've never heard anyone call Bosh a superstar. I've also heard plenty of people claim that Wade has lost a step and that he's slowing down. I've heard how Wade is not a top 5 player etc... Most people throughout the season ranked LeBron, Dwight, Rose and Durant consistently above Wade. I wouldn't be surprised if most posters would rank CP3 and Kobe above Wade as well.

Heat thought they were 3 superstars team but its LBJ & the a very good player & a good player.

Bosh is no superstar. He is a solid star.

[BallsOut]

No they do not. I've never heard anyone call Bosh a superstar. I've also heard plenty of people claim that Wade has lost a step and that he's slowing down. I've heard how Wade is not a top 5 player etc... Most people throughout the season ranked LeBron, Dwight, Rose and Durant consistently above Wade. I wouldn't be surprised if most posters would rank CP3 and Kobe above Wade as well.

Did you start watching basketball this year? Bosh led the Raptors to the playoffs single-handedly season after season when he was in Toronto averaging 20/10.

Don't downplay all of the talent Miami has. 3 superstars is unprecedented, its sort of sad that that's what it'll take for them to win a ring.

[jalbert009]

Because Melo's supporting cast isn't as good as/as fitting as Dirk's. Plus the chemistry there sucks. Melo is better than Dirk, but just can't take over when every ounce of attention is on him. Dirk had a few bad games in the playoffs last year that saw him get backed up by Jet and crew. Melo doesn't have that luxury.

If Dirk had a less-talented and slower version of himself at another position, he would be in the same boat as Melo.

I feel they have a similar team actually in terms of talent but That Dallas Team had better defense while this NY team has more offense.

Chandler = Chandler
Amare = Marion
Melo = Dirk
JR Smith/Shumpert = Terry
Davis = Kidd

Fields = Peja
Novak = Stevenson
Lin = Barea (but of course lin is injured)

[DMAVS41]

Let's be honest. The Heat have 3 superstar players. That's unprecedented. What the Mavs did last year to beat them is incredible, but probably won't happen again. 3 superstar players is way too much talent to overcome.

Bosh is not a superstar, but yea...they have unreal talent in the top 3. But so do the Thunder right now.

Durant/Westbrook/Harden....its worse, but not by a ton. And the Thunder have a better supporting cast around those 3 than the Heat do.

And the Lakers...Kobe/Bynum/Gasol...its worse as well, but not hugely. Where the Lakers struggle is with the other guys.

[NuggetsFan]

Does NY hold the record now for most consecutive playoff loses? Thought I seen something about them and Memphis now being tied at 12 straight.

Rough go for the big apple.

[Flagrant 2]

I liked the Knicks when Amare was running the show with Gallo.

[ClutchOver9000]

I feel they have a similar team actually in terms of talent but That Dallas Team had better defense while this NY team has more offense.

Chandler = Chandler
Amare = Marion
Melo = Dirk
JR Smith/Shumpert = Terry
Davis = Kidd

Fields = Peja
Novak = Stevenson
Lin = Barea (but of course lin is injured)

Amare = Marion? How? Certainly not on defense or as a rebounder...

JR's too dumb to be like Terry

Davis is not a floor general like Kidd

Fields = Peja??? Hit me up when Fields can hit an open shot...

[knickballer]

I feel they have a similar team actually in terms of talent but That Dallas Team had better defense while this NY team has more offense.

Chandler = Chandler
Amare = Marion
Melo = Dirk
JR Smith/Shumpert = Terry
Davis = Kidd

Fields = Peja
Novak = Stevenson
Lin = Barea (but of course lin is injured)

Horrible comparison.
Dallas had a smart team composed of veterans who weren't total baboons like the current Knicks squad. Both of the Knicks "superstars" are selfish blackholes who don't play any defense and fail to get their teammates involved.

Dallas had Dirk, a potential top 10 player of all time who can carry a team on his back. They also had role players who did their role in spreading the floor, playing defense, making timely jumpers.

[knickballer]

I liked the Knicks when Amare was running the show with Gallo.

Shit, I liked the Knicks when David Lee was running the show. Atleast then I thought we had some future to be excited for...

[lilgodfather1]

Did you start watching basketball this year? Bosh led the Raptors to the playoffs single-handedly season after season when he was in Toronto averaging 20/10.

Don't downplay all of the talent Miami has. 3 superstars is unprecedented, its sort of sad that that's what it'll take for them to win a ring.
I'm sorry but this is just wrong on so many levels. Bosh led his team to more top 10 lotto picks then playoff series. I don't think the Raptors even won a single game during his time as a Raptor, and I know they didn't pass the first round.

[Scholar]

Shit, I liked the Knicks when David Lee was running the show. Atleast then I thought we had some future to be excited for...

****, I liked the Knicks when Stephon Marbury, Steve Francis, Nate Robinson, and Coach Larry Brown were running the show. At least then it made sense why they sucked...

[knickswin]

this amar'e punching the first extinguisher thing might be the straw that breaks the camel's back ... i would not be surprised if he were to be moved this summer.

possibly trading partners:
detroit (gordon and CV?)
washington (rashard lewis?)
philly (elton brand?)

the melo/amar'e experiment has been an unpleasant one. they need to go in a new direction with this team

I'm not so keen on Woodson ... I think the offense lacks consistency and creativity. I'm sick of him letting j.r. and baron isolate so much. too much iso ball with melo too.

[ihoopallday]

Why is everyone acting like we just won this series. Believe me, anything can happen. After last years finals, I've realized not to get excited too early. Anyways, have to feel bad for NY. A lot of things are going wrong at the worst time. However, I don't feel bad for those idiotic fans saying NY would sweep Miami.

[cteach111]

My thoughts exactly.

Want to beat the Heat?

Meet them in a later round and have enough firepower to keep it close until the 4th quarter. That is your *chance*, because lebron so far hasn't been able to show up. Oh, also have a historically clutch player that is playing incredibly well in those 4th quarters. Thats what it takes, and thats ridiculous.

Theres still some remaining teams that can do it, but damn.. No one is dreaming of blowing this team out though and I don't think thats ever happened in the nba.

dawg, its only been one playoffs. You act like Lebron's gonna do this every time.

[Kiddlovesnets]

The Heat is just too good in playoffs, the regular season record is deceptive. Remember how they were 1-3 against Boston and 0-3 against Chicago in last year's regular season but won both playoffs series 4-1. It took a special Mavs team to beat them though.

[ClutchOver9000]

The Heat is just too good in playoffs, the regular season record is deceptive. Remember how they were 1-3 against Boston and 0-3 against Chicago in last year's regular season but won both playoffs series 4-1. It took a special Mavs team to beat them though.

this...

the way they can just turn it on like that once the postseason hits...scary.

[knickswin]

this...

the way they can just turn it on like that once the postseason hits...scary.

it is just very difficult to guard lebron and wade at the same time. then they have shooters like chalmers, battier, and miller who can take advantage of the fact that you have to collapse on lebron and wade.

there are teams that could beat them (grizzlies and lakers have the size, and the spurs have the poise) but the knicks ain't one of them.

[ClutchOver9000]

it is just very difficult to guard lebron and wade at the same time. then they have shooters like chalmers, battier, and miller who can take advantage of the fact that you have to collapse on lebron and wade.

there are teams that could beat them (grizzlies and lakers have the size, and the spurs have the poise) but the knicks ain't one of them.

its demoralizing for me to watch so i can already tell how the players must be feeling.

LBJ/Wade going HAM for stretches...you cut into the lead, actually manage to play very good defense on both guys, only to have Bosh kill you. You regroup, cut into the lead again, bother the big 3, they dish it to Battier or Miller or Chalmers, bang, killer 3 again and again...drowning your hopes of a possible comeback. You go for one last run, they force a couple turnovers from you, and in a blink of an eye, you're down 15 w/ a couple mins to go...

Like you said, we're not the team to beat these guys...we dont have the horses...

I'm just hoping we can get one win.

[Teanett]

Like you said, we're not the team to beat these guys...we dont have the horses...

I'm just hoping we can get one win.

yes we do!
woodson's offense is the problem.
he has the weapons but he cant fire them.

[Mirko Cro Cop]

Because Dirk never got the attention that Melo does. Dirk got a shitload of attention, but not like he is now. Also got a less-focused Heat team.
:oldlol: How were the Heat less focused when they played the Mavs? They were in the FINALS and was two games away from winning a championship. This is an incredibly ignorant thing for you to say and face it, Dirk is a much better player under pressure than Carmelo and has always been.

[swi7ch]

100 million for Amar'e... watta waste! :facepalm

Rashard Lewis 2.0

[TheBluest]

I feel Bad for Shumpert, Lin, and somewhat for Woody. I do not feel bad for the Knicks. They sold their soul to put this mess of a team together

[LT Ice Cream]

Why should I feel bad? That team is like putting a megateam together in NBA2K and expecting to dominate your friends . . . But then it doesn't work out. Nobody feels bad for the guy who does that.

They are in the top 3 in terms of having a talented roster. Their fault they underachieved in the regular season and have to face the Heat now.
The NBA is a joke.

Like the guy above me, I can only really feel bad for Shump and Lin.

[jdm_dc_fan]

This season I have come to realize that most NYK fans/posters are the worst. I feel bad for jeremy lin, novak, and shumpert but other than that everyone else expects games to be handed to them.

[NumberSix]

I don't think any other teams are willing to pay Amar'e $20M per year for 3 years. There is too high of a risk on this guy

[DukeDelonte13]

No they do not. I've never heard anyone call Bosh a superstar. I've also heard plenty of people claim that Wade has lost a step and that he's slowing down. I've heard how Wade is not a top 5 player etc... Most people throughout the season ranked LeBron, Dwight, Rose and Durant consistently above Wade. I wouldn't be surprised if most posters would rank CP3 and Kobe above Wade as well.


Bosh on the Raptors was consistently ranked as one of the best PF's in the league. When you go from the undisputed no. 1 option to essentially a role player when Bron and Wade are out there what do you expect?

[R.I.P.]

****, I liked the Knicks when Stephon Marbury, Steve Francis, Nate Robinson, and Coach Larry Brown were running the show. At least then it made sense why they sucked...

:roll: :roll:

This thread is funny.

[InfiniteBaskets]

Bosh on the Raptors was consistently ranked as one of the best PF's in the league. When you go from the undisputed no. 1 option to essentially a role player when Bron and Wade are out there what do you expect?

A superstar doesn't allow his team to get bounced from the first round time and time again. That's too loose of a definition for me.

And being 'one of the best PF's in the league' doesn't make you a superstar. Otherwise we might as start calling all star weekend, superstar weekend because those players are essentially 'one of the best' playeres in their position.

[InfiniteBaskets]

Did you start watching basketball this year? Bosh led the Raptors to the playoffs single-handedly season after season when he was in Toronto averaging 20/10.

Don't downplay all of the talent Miami has. 3 superstars is unprecedented, its sort of sad that that's what it'll take for them to win a ring.

Wow, such a huge accomplishment, leading your team into the playoffs throughout a stretch when the eastern conference is littered with weak teams.

The fact that you're grouping Bosh as a superstar together with the likes of James, Wade, Kobe, Durant, Dwight, Rose is laughable. Stop telling jokes.

[DukeDelonte13]

Wow, such a huge accomplishment, leading your team into the playoffs throughout a stretch when the eastern conference is littered with weak teams.

The fact that you're grouping Bosh as a superstar together with the likes of James, Wade, Kobe, Durant, Dwight, Rose is laughable. Stop telling jokes.

:oldlol: the authority on the definition of superstar speaks....

:roll: :oldlol:

[returnofthemack]

How can somene feel bad for that POS city and team?

the only POS here is your face.

this coming from someone from miami of all places. i would rather live in north dakota for godssake then miami

[returnofthemack]

A superstar doesn't allow his team to get bounced from the first round time and time again. That's too loose of a definition for me.

And being 'one of the best PF's in the league' doesn't make you a superstar. Otherwise we might as start calling all star weekend, superstar weekend because those players are essentially 'one of the best' playeres in their position.


i agree. bosh is no superstar. hes a great player but not a superstar. hell at this point wade isnt a superstar. look what those fools did when they ran the heat and raptors?

no you cant count the miami championship as wades. sorry wade homers but that was riley and shaqs shits

[InfiniteBaskets]

i agree. bosh is no superstar. hes a great player but not a superstar. hell at this point wade isnt a superstar. look what those fools did when they ran the heat and raptors?

no you cant count the miami championship as wades. sorry wade homers but that was riley and shaqs shits

Nah Wade played like a superstar during the 06 run, he gets the majority of the credit for that title run. But he's slowed down since. He hasn't played like a superstar this season.

Bosh on the other hand, even at his prime/peak, was never a top 5 player in the NBA. A superstar is someone you can build a contender around, but Toronto was never able to build around Bosh.

[InfiniteBaskets]

:oldlol: the authority on the definition of superstar speaks....

:roll: :oldlol:

You probably think Delonte West is a superstar.

[BlackVVaves]

I am Knicks fan forever

& I dont feel bad. I knew this was gonna happen

but Damn do I regret Knicks not staying on 8th Spot.

Imagine how badly knicks could've beaten Bulls without Rose. :facepalm

THIS. THIS. THIS.

I won't agree with badly, but you'd have to think that without Rose (and now with Melo back at the 4 due to Amare's insurmountable stupidity), the Knicks stood a HELL of a lot better in terms of making it to the second round, where they'd meet Boston/Hawks.

The Knicks very well may have found themselves in the ECF. But, they decided not to tank, which is honorable, but now it'll cost them.