LeBron Stands in the Corner..

[AirTupac]

Doesnt even wanna look at the ball :lol :lol :lol

[Velocirap31]

They should have ran the play for him and not Wade. He's the reason they were so close at the end.

[HB40TheNextStar]

He could have moved better, but that was all on Wade. He wasn't even facing the basket with like 2 seconds left.

[LoneyROY7]

Dude was scared shitless.

You could see him trembling.

[Mr Clutch Melo]

:coleman:
Blame SPO, not Lebron

[rs98762001]

I'm not sure why this is a surprise to anyone anymore. It's as predictable as the sun rising in the east.

[truhooper]

what does that have to do with wade missing the shot fakket :coleman:

[Velocirap31]

This forum is now at a crawl....

[kurple]

thats on the coach and not lebron

[OmniStrife]

He could have moved better, but that was all on Wade. He wasn't even facing the basket with like 2 seconds left.
This. A terrible play by Wade.

[RaininTwos]

Dude was scared shitless.

You could see him trembling.
Scared shitless?

Dude just hit a huge clutch three point play and a huge clutch three pointer....gtfo here.

[LoneyROY7]

Scared shitless?

Dude just hit a huge clutch three point play and a huge clutch three pointer....gtfo here.

:facepalm

[Flagrant 2]

I can't say that I'm surprised Lebron didn't take the final shot.

[Mr. Jabbar]

:roll:

[lakerspng]

Weirdest sh1t I seen in a while. Do something. Even if they call the play for wade get involved slide to a passing angle or set a screen for him. Be involved. He should have bad the ball in his hand, he was hot. Bad decision by the coach but also shows a lack of maturity in his off the ball game. Just cause you don't have the ball doesn't mean you can't get in and do something to help. Ther bet player was a spectator on the biggest play of the game. Just terrible

[KDTrey5]

OP is retarded. if lebron got the ball and missed, the thread would be LECHOKE smh fkin idiot

[The Ownage]

Lebron was very clutch in the end but Wade couldn't give up the ball. Credit to Stoudemire for playing tight defense on him.

[Indian guy]

Pretty inexcusable play drawn up by Spoelstra. Going by body language, LeBron seemed sulky and pissed the entire time Wade was dribbling the ball. Even more after the buzzer.

Although I'm glad Wade, for once, got to take a last shot with his team down. It's always with the score tied otherwise, an opportunity LeBron NEVER, EVER gets.

[Heavincent]

Is anyone really surprised?

[AirTupac]

OP is retarded. if lebron got the ball and missed, the thread would be LECHOKE smh fkin idiot


Yeah its a lot better to have your best and hottest player (no homo) stand in the corner and watch the game :facepalm

[thelucifer69]

March 11 2011 Andrew Bynum made Clutch Jump Hook over Kevin Garnett LAL beat Celtics

Kobe stand still watch the play beyond the 3 point line :rockon:

[Velocirap31]

Have some of you ever played basketball before? Lebron isn't going to sabotage the last play by getting involved. The play was an iso for Wade being guarded by Amare. An iso means you stay far away and give room for Wade to maneuver. Seriously, the hate is retarded on this site.

[AirTupac]

March 11 2011 Andrew Bynum made Clutch Jump Hook over Kevin Garnett LAL beat Celtics

Kobe stand still watch the play beyond the 3 point line :rockon:

Difference is Kobe knew Bynum was hot and let him have it and they also won. :oldlol: :oldlol:

[pauk]

What was he supposed to do? The play was drawn for Wade.... and when its drawn for Lebron then it is Wade standing in the corner instead in those situations.....

I didnt like the coach decision tho, considering Lebron was hitting all types of clutch shots just before that.... bad decision by Coach Spoelstra....

[KDTrey5]

Yeah its a lot better to have your best and hottest player (no homo) stand in the corner and watch the game :facepalm
hhow many times has lebron choked (After getting them back into the game too) and everyone said wade should have taken it??

[I.R.Beast]

They should have ran the play for him and not Wade. He's the reason they were so close at the end.

I agree, and i despise james.

[RazorBaLade]

March 11 2011 Andrew Bynum made Clutch Jump Hook over Kevin Garnett LAL beat Celtics

Kobe stand still watch the play beyond the 3 point line :rockon:

Kobe passed it to him you moron. Lebron came out of the time out into the corner and then turned to look once at the rim to see if it went in. That was all he did that play

[Oositdwn]

I blame spo 1st since he was the stupid one who drew up the iso for Wade. Bron had some space to catch a pass from wade but wade had already turned his back to the basket and settled for a bailout fadeaway.

This is the only rare time I will say bron didn't do anything wrong.

[RoseCity07]

Dude was scared shitless.

You could see him trembling.

Kind of like Melo with those 3 free throws at the end which he didn't deserve.

[RazorBaLade]

What was he supposed to do? The play was drawn for Wade.... and when its drawn for Lebron then it is Wade standing in the corner instead in those situations.....

I didnt like the coach decision tho, considering Lebron was hitting all types of clutch shots just before that.... bad decision by Coach Spoelstra....

Coaches don't get to tell lebron james to stand in the corner in a playoff game.

[LABean]

Horrible play. :facepalm
Wanted to see a sweep.
LeBron should have demanded to run the last play. He was playing pretty good near the end.
But you know LeBron. :lol

[LoneyROY7]

Kind of like Melo with those 3 free throws at the end which he didn't deserve.

:facepalm

[rodman91]

That reminds me Kukoc over Pippen choice. :oldlol:

[Tenchi Ryu]

OP is retarded. if lebron got the ball and missed, the thread would be LECHOKE smh fkin idiot
Why you mad tho?

[O_City_Thunder]

I wish the coach would let LBJ take the last shot sometimes. I could be wrong, but it seems like Lebron is okay with not having the ball in that situation and that kinda bothers me.

[lakerspng]

I just don't understand why lebron doesnt walk into that huddle and say coach I want the ball. He deserved the opportunity to win that game

[Velocirap31]

Kind of like Melo with those 3 free throws at the end which he didn't deserve.

True, Battier didn't touch him. Refs seemed a little towards the Knicks this game, but it is what it is. Congratulations on not getting swept New York fans.

[thelucifer69]

March 11 2011 Andrew Bynum made Clutch Jump Hook over Kevin Garnett LAL beat Celtics

Kobe stand still watch the play beyond the 3 point line :rockon:



Kobe passed it to him you moron. Lebron came out of the time out into the corner and then turned to look once at the rim to see if it went in. That was all he did that play

MWP make the pass :roll:

Andrew Bynum Clutch Jump Hook over Kevin Garnett vs.Celtics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZVkKiTOu6Q&feature=related)

[raid09]

Weirdest sh1t I seen in a while. Do something. Even if they call the play for wade get involved slide to a passing angle or set a screen for him. Be involved. He should have bad the ball in his hand, he was hot. Bad decision by the coach but also shows a lack of maturity in his off the ball game. Just cause you don't have the ball doesn't mean you can't get in and do something to help. Ther bet player was a spectator on the biggest play of the game. Just terrible

So... I'm guessing you don't know what a designed play is? It broke down because Wade lost the handle, not because LeBron's off the ball play is "so immature" that he couldn't involved in a play where his only purpose was to clear out a defender.

[Tenchi Ryu]

I have a VERY hard time believing Spo made Bron sit in the corner and do NOTHING in the final seconds of a game where you could SWEEP and WIN the series.

The play might have been drawn for wade, but sitting in the corner? REALLY?

[dude77]

of all shots to take, wade takes that heaping pile of shit .. and with stoudemire guarding him no less .. utterly disgusted right now .. and miami has to wait until wednesday for game 5 ? wtf ? should be monday to get this over with

[LoneyROY7]

That reminds me Kukoc over Pippen choice. :oldlol:

Yup, the Heat need their Jordan. They don't have one right now.

[pauk]

Coaches don't get to tell lebron james to stand in the corner in a playoff game.

But they do tell him its "Wades play"....

Wade took the ball and immediately drived in and went to the completely opposite side of Lebron at the 3PT line.... Once again, what were you expecting Lebron to do? Jump over everybody from the 3PT line and go for a rebound or a alley-oop or something? :biggums:

Battier lost this game with his horrible defense on Melo and then a bad coach decision lost the game officially by giving it to Wade when Lebron didnt even freakin miss a shot in the clutch just before that...

[Velocirap31]

So... I'm guessing you don't know what a designed play is? It broke down because Wade lost the handle, not because LeBron wasn't involved in a play where his only purpose was to clear out a defender.

This this this. Thank god everyone here isn't retarded.

[Tenchi Ryu]

Do you guys seriously think that Spoelstra told Lebron to stand in the corner and do nothing on the last play?
At least a fukkin screen or something....jesus christ.

[pauk]

So... I'm guessing you don't know what a designed play is? It broke down because Wade lost the handle, not because LeBron's off the ball play is "so immature" that he couldn't involved in a play where his only purpose was to clear out a defender.

They know this... this is just a pathetic attempt by lebron haters, they will try anything throwed at them.... they aint that stupid in reality or maybe they are... who knows...

[KDTrey5]

Why you mad tho?
aalways makes wack threads

[madmax]

Honestly, this was such a letdown ending after very entertaining 4th quarter...:facepalm
Anyone sane knows that Wade was never clutch and all this myth of him being the "closer" is just retarded talk by LBJ haters. Spo should have ridden hot hand by Lebron and let him do his thang on the last possession...as it stands, coach screwed up again. I'm dissapoint:banghead:

[lakerspng]

If his job was to clear out a defender they should have set up lebron and wade on the same side and have lebron screen for him which would have either set up a clear path for wade to drive or him to pass to lebron for a better look off the roll. Either way he is involved in the play and your two best players have the chance to create the best look possible. When they passed it in to wade I thought that's what they would do but instead wade ran tr other way and lebron just stood there. Terrible play

[thelucifer69]

How dump is Lakers Fan




March 11 2011 Andrew Bynum made Clutch Jump Hook over Kevin Garnett LAL beat Celtics

Kobe stand still watch the play beyond the 3 point line :rockon:



Kobe passed it to him you moron. Lebron came out of the time out into the corner and then turned to look once at the rim to see if it went in. That was all he did that play

MWP make the pass :roll:

Andrew Bynum Clutch Jump Hook over Kevin Garnett vs.Celtics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZVkKiTOu6Q&feature=related)

[pauk]

So... I'm guessing you don't know what a designed play is? It broke down because Wade lost the handle, not because LeBron's off the ball play is "so immature" that he couldn't involved in a play where his only purpose was to clear out a defender.

This post really ended this thread...

Nothing else to see here folks...

Another failed attempt by Airtupac and his many accounts...

[Tenchi Ryu]

This post really ended this thread...

Nothing else to see here folks...
Yes it is, commence the thread.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Well they aint supposed to be down 4pts entering the last minute, this is no excuse. The heat is still playing, but they look done when it comes to the champion hope.

[Heavincent]

Honestly, this was such a letdown ending after very entertaining 4th quarter...:facepalm
Anyone sane knows that Wade was never clutch and all this myth of him being the "closer" is just retarded talk by LBJ haters. Spo should have ridden hot hand by Lebron and let him do his thang on the last possession...as it stands, coach screwed up again. I'm dissapoint:banghead:

mad

[Heavincent]

Why do people want Lebron taking the last shot anyway? He would have missed.

[Simple Jack]

Why do people want Lebron taking the last shot anyway? He would have missed.

And you think Bron stans are bad.

Like I said a few days ago...it wasn't even a bad game for Bron and there's a bunch of threads on it. Kobe has a 7-23 game and not a single thread was made.

[lakerspng]

Hit or miss doesn't matter. The desire is what matters. Willing to fail if it means the chance to succeed. I wanted him to take that shot because I love to see players go for it. If you miss you miss. I thought he was going to win, he was in a groove. I would have been surprised if he missed honestly.

[Oositdwn]

Why do people want Lebron taking the last shot anyway? He would have missed.
Well that's the mystery isn't it. Nobody knows if he'll make or miss it, since Bron hasn't taken a game winning shot in decades.

[tmacattack33]

Summary of events:

- Lebron beasts it with under 2 minutes remaining. Hitting a huge three at the 2 min mark and then an And 1 with 40 sec left.

- Spoelstra makes a bad decision (actually Stoudemire ended up on Wade which is a huge mismatch, so it wasn't really a bad play) and draws the play up for Wade. Lebron does what he is told.

- Some idiot makes a thread about how Lebron failed


The End.

[RazorBaLade]

How dump is Lakers Fan







MWP make the pass :roll:

Andrew Bynum Clutch Jump Hook over Kevin Garnett vs.Celtics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZVkKiTOu6Q&feature=related)

because kobe told him to.......

[ihoopallday]

Lol damn LeBron is always in a lose-lose situation. If he takes the shot and misses he's a choker. If he passes the ball, he's scared. If he doesn't even touch the ball, he's also scared. If your not a LeBron fan, then why spend so much of your energy hating. Just doesn't make sense.

[coin24]

How awesome is it on here when the heat choke:oldlol:

Can't wait for the finals:rockon:


Close game=heat shook.. When is lebron going to take that shot?:confusedshrug: He should have told spo to stfu he's taking it!!!
Grow some fkn balls..

I'd rather see lebron attempt it than wade brick another one..

[Oositdwn]

Summary of events:

- Lebron beasts it with under 2 minutes remaining. Hitting a huge three at the 2 min mark and then an And 1 with 40 sec left.

- Spoelstra makes a bad decision (actually Stoudemire ended up on Wade which is a huge mismatch, so it wasn't really a bad play) and draws the play up for Wade. Lebron does what he is told.

- Some idiot makes a thread about how Lebron failed


The End.
He was told to stand in the corner?? :biggums:

[AirTupac]

Summary of events:

- Lebron beasts it with under 2 minutes remaining. Hitting a huge three at the 2 min mark and then an And 1 with 40 sec left.

- Spoelstra makes a bad decision and LeBron lets Wade take the shot and doesn't even show the desire to win it

-LeBron stands in the corner like a dummy

-Poster is mad

The End.

:kobe: fixed

[RazorBaLade]

Summary of events:

- Lebron beasts it with under 2 minutes remaining. Hitting a huge three at the 2 min mark and then an And 1 with 40 sec left.

- Lebron realizes its the 4th quarter

- Lebron goes to stand in the corner after asking to not be the one to take the last shot


The End.

i agree.

[Velocirap31]

Summary of events:

- Lebron beasts it with under 2 minutes remaining. Hitting a huge three at the 2 min mark and then an And 1 with 40 sec left.

- Spoelstra makes a bad decision (actually Stoudemire ended up on Wade which is a huge mismatch, so it wasn't really a bad play) and draws the play up for Wade. Lebron does what he is told.

- Some idiot makes a thread about how Lebron failed


The End.

:applause: and that is that.

[RazorBaLade]

Lol damn LeBron is always in a lose-lose situation. If he takes the shot and misses he's a choker. If he passes the ball, he's scared. If he doesn't even touch the ball, he's also scared. If your not a LeBron fan, then why spend so much of your energy hating. Just doesn't make sense.

uhh no. If he takes the shots and makes a decent amount of them, he will go down as one of thebest to ever play the game. I dont think thats a lose lose situation.

[Simple Jack]

If people really think he's unclutch and unable to make a clutch shot (he made a bunch tonight), then why do you blame him for not taking the shot or missing it? I don't get it. You'd think if he's that bad in those situations, then you wouldn't want him taking it thus he's doing the right thing. Or is there some agenda I'm missing :banghead:

[Mr. Jabbar]

LePassive with premium spectator seat for crunch time

[winwin]

I just don't understand why lebron doesnt walk into that huddle and say coach I want the ball. He deserved the opportunity to win that game
this

infact he walked into that huddle and said: coach I don't want the ball

Lefail is a *****

[Blue&Orange]

Kind of like Melo with those 3 free throws at the end which he didn't deserve.
http://www.nba.com/games/20120314/PORNYK/gameinfo.html#nbaGIboxscore

:lol :lol


Didn't deserved? Foul couldn't have been more clear, obvious touch on the elbow shooting arm.

[Tenchi Ryu]

If people really think he's unclutch and unable to make a clutch shot (he made a bunch tonight), then why do you blame him for not taking the shot or missing it? :
Because he was LITERALLY clutch as fukk just 2 mins ago, in the 4th quarter of all times.

[RoseCity07]

Heat up 3-1 heading back to Miami. If Lebron is being passive then the Knicks are worse than I though.

[ihoopallday]

LePassive with premium spectator seat for crunch time

Wow, surprised it took you this long to make an appearance in this thread. Lol damn you must have an orgasm when the Heat lose. I've never seen you give them ANY credit when they win.

[pauk]

Hit or miss doesn't matter. The desire is what matters. Willing to fail if it means the chance to succeed. I wanted him to take that shot because I love to see players go for it. If you miss you miss. I thought he was going to win, he was in a groove. I would have been surprised if he missed honestly.

I agree... thats why i was pissed about that play by Spoelstra... i have nothing against Wade taking it, absolutely not... but Lebron had it going...

he took the lead with 1-2 mins to go..
then Melo made a shot..
then Lebron made a shot..
then Melo made some FTs..
then Lebron hits a shot
then Melo hits a shot...
then all of the sudden... Wade.. is given the last shot...

Lebron deserved to take that last shot.... very disappointed on that decision by Spo...

[jstern]

Was Lebron supposed to make Wade pass it to him with his telepathic powers? :confusedshrug:

[ihoopallday]

uhh no. If he takes the shots and makes a decent amount of them, he will go down as one of thebest to ever play the game. I dont think thats a lose lose situation.

He did it last year before reaching the finals. Of course he didn't in the finals, but after that people make it seem like he was a scrub his entire career. That's what I mean by lose-lose situation. No matter what he does, people will always over emphasize the failures and never give him credit for his accomplishments.

[TheNaturalWR]

How you guys blame Spo is beyond me. That was an EXCELLENT play from Spo. He drew up a play that would set up a mismatch for Wade. Wade just didn't come through.

[NumberSix]

Lol. This is truly hilarious. Wade bricks the final shot... and it's somehow LeBron's fault. :roll:

Yes, you're right. LeBron should have ran over to Wade, knocked him the fck out and taken the ball. OBVIOUSLY!!!

[Kiddlovesnets]

Lebron stands in the corner with the frustration look on his face, staring at the trophy that he will never get in his career.
:cry:

[kingkong]

he's the best player in the game and he should do what every other best player does and tell people to give him the ball

Wade can go ahead and pretend he's the "closer" or whatever, but it's just sad to see him take the worst shots in the world to prove something

[tmacattack33]

He was told to stand in the corner?? :biggums:

Yes, probably.

And he was able to keep a defender glued on him, helping to Wade the space necessary to take Amare Stoudemire (one of the best defenders in the league... lol yeah right) off the dribble in an iso situation.

[Kingwillball]

lebron not getting the last shot is inexcusable.. I am tired of Wade be looked at as the closer. Lebron is the best player who time and again puts heat in situation to win by hitting big shots only to have final shot drawn up for Wade who doesn't deliver. This shit has to change. Worst part is media will have field day on lebron once again which won't help his confidence in those scenerios..

[Tenchi Ryu]

I'm sorry, but I absolutely REFUSE to believe Spo just made Lebron sit in the corner and do absolutely nothing. NOTHING, not even at least find himself some possible space for a bailout 3 pointer. Not even a screen to help Wade. Not even to act like a decoy and run to the basket....

And if all this is true, Lebron deserves just as much blame. He has to man the fukk up and start demanding shit, NOW. Fukk what Spo says, if you are feeling it, and have been hot all night, you HAVE to go for it.

[lakerspng]

Not blaming lebron for anything. Just mystified by his lack of participation. Wade was a mess on that last play, had total tunnel vision. But even if wade had decided to pass to another player for the final shot lebron would not have been available because he didn't move to make himself available. And he didn't move to get in position for a rebound or putback either in case wade missed. Two things he could have done. Either way I wish he would have just told the coach, let me win this game.

[NumberSix]

Not blaming lebron for anything. Just mystified by his lack of participation. Wade was a mess on that last play, had total tunnel vision. But even if wade had decided to pass to another player for the final shot lebron would not have been available because he didn't move to make himself available. And he didn't move to get in position for a rebound or putback either in case wade missed. Two things he could have done. Either way I wish he would have just told the coach, let me win this game.
Looks like a pretty makable pass to me. :confusedshrug:

http://s7.postimage.org/99n7qphjd/Wade_Miss.png

[RazorBaLade]

He did it last year before reaching the finals. Of course he didn't in the finals, but after that people make it seem like he was a scrub his entire career. That's what I mean by lose-lose situation. No matter what he does, people will always over emphasize the failures and never give him credit for his accomplishments.

Well thats the problem. The only way to succeed is to actually completely succeed. Not go 10% of the way there. Not go 70% of the way there. 90% isnt good enough either. 100%. Multiple times, like every other great player has. Then we can never take it away from him. He shouldn't receive credit for almost doing it.

[madmax]

Lol. This is truly hilarious. Wade bricks the final shot... and it's somehow LeBron's fault. :roll:

Yes, you're right. LeBron should have ran over to Wade, knocked him the fck out and taken the ball. OBVIOUSLY!!!

:lol

[gilalizard]

Horrible play. :facepalm
Wanted to see a sweep.
LeBron should have demanded to run the last play. He was playing pretty good near the end.
But you know LeBron. :lol

That's pretty much it really.

Ultimately, LeBron is not true leader. A true leader would of demanded the ball and made the decision whether to shoot it himself or dump it off.

LeBron meekly went along with the plan to coddle dwhistle's ego.

Which will be his legacy with the Miami Heat.

[Blue&Orange]

Lebronsexuals trying to pin the blame on Spo.

I would love to see Spo draw a play for Wade with Michael Jordan accepting to stand in the corner :lol

So the play was Wade trying to deceive Knicks players trying to score 2 points to only then go for the three?

Wade looked at Lebron just after he got the ball, but Lebron didn't want anything to do with that play :roll:

[arifgokcen]

How you guys blame Spo is beyond me. That was an EXCELLENT play from Spo. He drew up a play that would set up a mismatch for Wade. Wade just didn't come through.

Thats not the problem.The problem is lebron scored 6 points on and one and very clutch three point shot.Spo doesnt run a play for him.Especially this season i have never seen him involved in last second shots.He is much better shooter and finisher.He could basically get by anyone on knicks and finish over anyone.Thats what he used to do in cleveland.He gained that back in last year playoffs he lost it again in finals.

[madmax]

I'm sorry, but I absolutely REFUSE to believe Spo just made Lebron sit in the corner and do absolutely nothing. NOTHING, not even at least find himself some possible space for a bailout 3 pointer. Not even a screen to help Wade. Not even to act like a decoy and run to the basket....

And if all this is true, Lebron deserves just as much blame. He has to man the fukk up and start demanding shit, NOW. Fukk what Spo says, if you are feeling it, and have been hot all night, you HAVE to go for it.

so what are you saying is he should essentially start sabotaging his coach and start running things on his own? Is that how all the superstars in history operated their teams too?

[ihoopallday]

Well thats the problem. The only way to succeed is to actually completely succeed. Not go 10% of the way there. Not go 70% of the way there. 90% isnt good enough either. 100%. Multiple times, like every other great player has. Then we can never take it away from him. He shouldn't receive credit for almost doing it.

I like that perspective and completely agree. Thanks for actually not being a hater and making a good argument with my original post. :cheers:

[Kingwillball]

I wouldn't be as pissed if Lebron didn't score 6 points i n final minute..put them in position to win and he stands like statute in corner on final play..still shaking my head.

[gilalizard]

Thats not the problem.The problem is lebron scored 6 points on and one and very clutch three point shot.Spo doesnt run a play for him.Especially this season i have never seen him involved in last second shots.He is much better shooter and finisher.He could basically get by anyone on knicks and finish over anyone.Thats what he used to do in cleveland.He gained that back in last year playoffs he lost it again in finals.

Sure, but this relegates Wade to roleplayer status.

That's going to be the issue. Can Wade's ego accept being carried to a second title even if he pretends to be the most important player on the team?

And if he does pretend at certain moments, can LeBron's ego accept going down in history as a GOAT-level talent who accepted being a 2nd option when everything was on the line?

[TheNaturalWR]

Thats not the problem.The problem is lebron scored 6 points on and one and very clutch three point shot.Spo doesnt run a play for him.Especially this season i have never seen him involved in last second shots.He is much better shooter and finisher.He could basically get by anyone on knicks and finish over anyone.Thats what he used to do in cleveland.He gained that back in last year playoffs he lost it again in finals.

Did you watch the game? LeBron couldn't get ****ing past Tyson Chandler with 5 fouls. LeBron hasn't beaten anyone off the dribble since forever. And I'm not even hating on him because he's by far the best player in the league but the fact that he struggles to get past people with his athleticism is ridiculously disappointing. I don't think he's gotten past Melo off the dribble more than twice this whole series. Whenever there's a mismatch he always struggles to get past his defender and almost 90% of the time settles for a pull-up. Wade had Amare on him who he would beat off the dribble 9 out of 10 times if you gave him another opportunity. Wade just didn't come through, THAT IS ALL.

[Tenchi Ryu]

so what are you saying is he should essentially start sabotaging his coach and start running things on his own? Is that how all the superstars in history operated their teams too?
Kobe blatantly went into override mode and told Gasol to fukk what Brown said, and it got them the win.

Lebron has WAAYYYY more power to this Heat franchise than Spo EVER will. Do you seriously think Lebron would have gotten penalized for that shit? PLEASE

[Velocirap31]

I wouldn't be as pissed if Lebron didn't score 6 points i n final minute..put them in position to win and he stands like statute in corner on final play..still shaking my head.

That is what he was told by Spo to do. Keep distance from Wade to keep his defender away from Wade. If he approaches Wade, his defender follows which ruins the isolation play. The iso should have been ran for Lebron, but the coach makes the decisions, not the players.

[DuMa]

Knee jerk threads yay

[Velocirap31]

Kobe blatantly went into override mode and told Gasol to fukk what Brown said, and it got them the win.

Lebron has WAAYYYY more power to this Heat franchise than Spo EVER will.

Lebron obviously respects Spo more than Kobe respects Brown. If you have faith in your coach to make the best decisions, than you do what they tell you to do.

[Tenchi Ryu]

Lebron obviously respects Spo more than Kobe respects Brown. If you have faith in your coach to make the best decisions, than you do what they tell you to do.
I would be willing to agree with that if I haven't see Lebron on multiple occasions flat out have fall outs with his own coach when things weren't going their way. How many times have we seen Bron visibly pissed at Spo, and Spo acting like a confused child.
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[Velocirap31]

I would be willing to agree with that if I haven't see Lebron on multiple occasions flat out have fall outs with his own coach when things weren't going their way.

Yeah, but at the end of the game, he still trusts his coach to make the right play.

[lakerspng]

Lebron has to want it. That's all there is to it. Greatness is not handed to you, you have to take it. I will never blame someone for trying and failing, I will blame them for not trying. He needs to tell coach to put t on his shoulders in that situation, he's the best player in the game he has to want to be the greatest as well

[Tenchi Ryu]

Yeah, but at the end of the game, he still trusts his coach to make the right play.
I just fail to see how anyone can refuse to feed the hot hand, and think that was the right play. Lebron was on fukking fire, and to completely not even get near the ball cause he was told to? I'm calling BS.

[Kingwillball]

[QUOTE=TheNaturalWR]Did you watch the game? LeBron couldn't get ****ing past Tyson Chandler with 5 fouls. LeBron hasn't beaten anyone off the dribble since forever. And I'm not even hating on him because he's by far the best player in the league but the fact that he struggles to get past people with his athleticism is ridiculously disappointing. I don't think he's gotten past Melo off the dribble more than twice this whole series. Whenever there's a mismatch he always struggles to get past his defender and almost 90% of the time settles for a pull-up. Wade had Amare on him who he would beat off the dribble 9 out of 10 times if you gave him another opportunity. Wade just didn't come through, THAT IS ALL.[/QUOT bull Lebron to the hole like for most his points this series forget gm 2 he had 4 or 5 and ones..open your eyes or stop with the selective memory

[madmax]

Kobe blatantly went into override mode and told Gasol to fukk what Brown said, and it got them the win.

Lebron has WAAYYYY more power to this Heat franchise than Spo EVER will. Do you seriously think Lebron would have gotten penalized for that shit? PLEASE

well, he's not Kobe...
He is a team player, who also happens to be the biggest talent the league has seen in years. And he doesn't have oversized ego to derail team interests from his personal glory. If you salute shotjackers like Kobrick, who play and win rings with stacked teams, then maybe Lebron is not a guy for you:cheers:

[TheNaturalWR]

@Kingwillball not gonna read that garbage. How you **** up quoting is beyond me.

[BallsOut]

Lebron obviously respects Spo more than Kobe respects Brown. If you have faith in your coach to make the best decisions, than you do what they tell you to do.

:oldlol: at this Lebron homer talking out his ass. Did you start watching the Heat this season or something?

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[Tenchi Ryu]

well, he's not Kobe...
He is a team player, who also happens to be the biggest talent the league has seen in years. And he doesn't have oversized ego to derail team interests from his personal glory. If you salute shotjackers like Kobrick, who play and win rings with stacked teams, then maybe Lebron is not a guy for you:cheers:
Please, GTFO with that ass kissing shit.

CP3 was just in the SAME fukking situation last week, told his coach to STFU and let me handle this, and got the job done.

[lakerspng]

well, he's not Kobe...
He is a team player, who also happens to be the biggest talent the league has seen in years. And he doesn't have oversized ego to derail team interests from his personal glory. If you salute shotjackers like Kobrick, who play and win rings with stacked teams, then maybe Lebron is not a guy for you:cheers:

All the greats who have rings have been of that mentality including magic who was the greatest teammate in the history of the game. In my mind that's the last thing lebron needs to take it to put himself in the legend status and get himself the rings. He needs to want it and take it. Like Jordan like Kobe like shaq like Kareem like magic like bird, etc.

[pegasus]

I love the fact that Miami still doesn't know who should be their closer even after two years of playing together. That's gonna be their downfall, again.

IMO, they should play a pick and pop game with Wade & Bosh, or Lebron & Bosh if Lebron feels confident enough to participate.:lol

[Kingwillball]

wr, posting from droid not home shits quirky

[pegasus]

well, he's not Kobe...
He is a team player, who also happens to be the biggest talent the league has seen in years. And he doesn't have oversized ego to derail team interests from his personal glory. If you salute shotjackers like Kobrick, who play and win rings with stacked teams, then maybe Lebron is not a guy for you:cheers:
Yep, just an oversized "Chosen One" tattoo on his back.

[ihoopallday]

All the greats who have rings have been of that mentality including magic who was the greatest teammate in the history of the game. In my mind that's the last thing lebron needs to take it to put himself in the legend status and get himself the rings. He needs to want it and take it. Like Jordan like Kobe like shaq like Kareem like magic like bird, etc.

True that. That first ring is the hardest. If he gets it, then I'd be scared if I was the opposition. A confident LeBron James would be scary.

[Heavincent]

Lol damn LeBron is always in a lose-lose situation. If he takes the shot and misses he's a choker. If he passes the ball, he's scared. If he doesn't even touch the ball, he's also scared. If your not a LeBron fan, then why spend so much of your energy hating. Just doesn't make sense.

Uh, how about he actually makes it?

[lakerspng]

True that. That first ring is the hardest. If he gets it, then I'd be scared if I was the opposition. A confident LeBron James would be scary.

Agreed. The guy is ridiculous. Only person in the league that can stop him right now is himself.

[Velocirap31]

:oldlol: at this Lebron homer talking out his ass. Did you start watching the Heat this season or something?

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So that proves he doesn't respect Spo now? No, obviously not. I'm not a Lebron homer, but a Raptors fan. I just get annoyed by his haters who make baseless statements and one-sided arguments.

[tmacattack33]

Please, GTFO with that ass kissing shit.

CP3 was just in the SAME fukking situation last week, told his coach to STFU and let me handle this, and got the job done.

I don't know what situation you're talking about, but the Clippers don't have D-Wade.

Overriding your coach when he tells you to go to Blake is different than overriding your coach when he tells you to go to D-Wade.






Which brings us to something very hysterical in this thread. And that is that hateres are acting like Lebron should have done anything possible to keep the ball away from D-Wade, as if Wade were some scrub and getting him a mismatch on Stoudemire was a horrible play.

And I guarantee you if you traced back the posts of some of these posters, they likely posted in other threads about how great D Wade is and how lucky Lebron is to be on the Heat.

LOL.

[tmacattack33]

Uh, how about he actually makes it?

Skip Bayless (and the haters) would say "it was game 4, and they were up 3-0. That was not a high pressure situation"

[Tenchi Ryu]

So that proves he doesn't respect Spo now? No, obviously not. I'm not a Lebron homer, but a Raptors fan. I just get annoyed by his haters who make baseless statements and one-sided arguments.
You are in denial if you honestly feel this is a one time deal. This is just one of the main ones made into a gif. This kind of stuff has been going on ALL season. Its common knowledge Spo is not respected by his superstars the way Thibs, Pop, Doc, and Brooks is.

[Tenchi Ryu]

I don't know what situation you're talking about, but the Clippers don't have D-Wade.

No, you don't know what you're talking about. The hell Clippers would need Wade for when they have CP3, which some of you claim is the best closer in the league. He basically didn't go with his coaches original plan, and decided to put the issue on his shoulders. And it got them the win.

[Velocirap31]

You are in denial if you honestly feel this is a one time deal. This is just one of the main ones made into a gif. This kind of stuff has been going on ALL season. Its common knowledge Spo is not respected by his superstars the way Thibs, Pop, and Brooks is.

I don't follow the Heat, so I wouldn't honestly know the inner workings of the organization. So basically you guys argue that Lebron doesn't respect his coach just like Kobe. Okay, lets say that's true, Lebron had faith in Wade to make the shot then. Apparently, he isn't supposed to trust any of his team mates.

[bdreason]

They have to give Wade the last shot opps.... or else he's pretty much worthless.

[Tenchi Ryu]

I don't follow the Heat, so I wouldn't honestly know the inner workings of the organization. So basically you guys argue that Lebron doesn't respect his coach just like Kobe. Okay, lets say that's true, Lebron had faith in Wade to make the shot then. Apparently, he isn't supposed to trust any of his team mates.
More like not having trust in yourself. People have already posted this in this thread. Winners have shown that they want to be winners, they wanted that opportunity.

[madmax]

I don't follow the Heat, so I wouldn't honestly know the inner workings of the organization. So basically you guys argue that Lebron doesn't respect his coach just like Kobe. Okay, lets say that's true, Lebron had faith in Wade to make the shot then. Apparently, he isn't supposed to trust any of his team mates.

I think haters are pretty much drowning in their own hypocrisy here:lol
One moment they talk how Wade should always be the closer, but when he fails in the clutch, it's of course Lebron's fault for not "wanting to be the man"...nothing new to see here - just the usual LBJ haters *********ion session

[Tenchi Ryu]

Lebron just said on the post interview that "I would love to have the ball". That right there shows he needs to man up and tell Spo I got this. He's being too passive.

[LBJMVP]

Lebron just said on the post interview that "I would love to have the ball". That right there shows he needs to man up and tell Spo I got this. He's being too passive.

it sounded like he was about to break down and cry....

but yah, he needs to demand the ball. he is way better than wade and should have the ball in his hand on the last play every single time.

also, lebron's hairline looks good done. props for getting that fixed. :applause:

[lakerspng]

Yeah just saw that interview. He looked pretty morose. You can't be meek like that. If you want it tell coach give it to me. Grab opportunity and be great.

[bdreason]

Lebron just said on the post interview that "I would love to have the ball". That right there shows he needs to man up and tell Spo I got this. He's being too passive.


He followed that with, "but we knew we had a better matchup on a switch with Wade and Amare".


They obviously felt taking Melo out of the play on defense was better than LeBron having the ball. Stop using LeBron's quotes out of context.

[LBJMVP]

He followed that with, "but we knew we had a better matchup on a switch with Wade and Amare".


They obviously felt taking Melo out of the play on defense was better than LeBron having the ball. Stop using LeBron's quotes out of context.


yeah, since melo is known for his great defense :rolleyes:

[bdreason]

yeah, since melo is known for his great defense :rolleyes:


LeBron vs. Melo

or

Wade vs. injured Amare


Which ISO is better?

[Tenchi Ryu]

He followed that with, "but we knew we had a better matchup on a switch with Wade and Amare".


They obviously felt taking Melo out of the play on defense was better than LeBron having the ball. Stop using LeBron's quotes out of context.
No, its called reading between the lines.

I would love to have the ball - What Lebron wants

But we knew we had a better matchup on a switch with Wade and Amare- That tells me it was a group decision (with SPO), as in it was something that had to be made in agreement. The fact that we saw Lebron yelling something at Wade right before the last play doesn't help ease the situation at all.

[lakerspng]

LeBron vs. Melo

or

Wade vs. injured Amare


Which ISO is better?

I would take lebron against anyone on the Knicks. And THT includes that DPOY

[Tenchi Ryu]

LeBron vs. Melo

or

Wade vs. injured Amare


Which ISO is better?
That injured Amare was playing grade A defense all game though.

[tmacattack33]

No, you don't know what you're talking about. The hell Clippers would need Wade for when they have CP3, which some of you claim is the best closer in the league. He basically didn't go with his coaches original plan, and decided to put the issue on his shoulders. And it got them the win.

?

What?

Apparently you are saying that there was a situation in LAC where Del Negro drew up a play for somebody else. And then Paul decided not to listen to that play and took the shot himself.

I'm saying if the Clippers also had Wade, i doubt Paul would have decided to take the ball out of Wade's hands and go against Del Negro.

So, like I said, taking the ball out of Blake's hands (or whoever Del Negro drew the play up for) is a little different than taking the ball out of Wade's hands.

[LBJMVP]

LeBron vs. Melo

or

Wade vs. injured Amare


Which ISO is better?

i would take lebron every single time...

especially after how well he was playing in the final 2 minutes.

[bdreason]

No, its called reading between the lines.

I would love to have the ball - What Lebron wants

But we knew we had a better matchup on a switch with Wade and Amare- That tells me it was a group decision (with SPO), as in it was something that had to be made in agreement. The fact that we saw Lebron yelling something at Wade right before the last play doesn't help ease the situation at all.


He was responding to the question, "why didn't you have the ball on the last play"?


What is he supposed to say?


It's not like he just started talking about it. If you're going to use quotes, use them in context.

[Tenchi Ryu]

?

What?

Apparently you are saying that there was a situation in LAC where Del Negro drew up a play for somebody else. And then Paul decided not to listen to that play and took the shot himself.
OMFG :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
Thats EXACTLY what HAPPENED. HAVE YOU BEEN PAYING ATTENTION to television?

Negro made CP3 SIT for the remainder of the game. He didn't want him to play at ALL. CP3 DEMANDED that he be put back into the game, cause he wanted the chance to make a come back. He DEFIED his coaches original plans to do what he wanted to do, and it worked.

[bdreason]

And I would rather LeBron have the ball too... but they way you kids try to pick apart his every response is retarded.

[Tenchi Ryu]

He was responding to the question, "why didn't you have the ball on the last play"?


What is he supposed to say?
He said exactly what he should have said, and what I wanted to here. That he has had plans of taking these shots, but apparently he's not being allowed to. Or at the most not being trusted enough with the play to do it.

And that's what needs to be fixed.

[bdreason]

And let's not act like the Heat won't handle NYK at home next game. Overreaction of a team that was able to win one game in a series at home. Props to Knicks for not completely rolling over.

[lakerspng]

If I'm a Miami fan I'm not worried about the Knicks. I'm worried about the fact that maybe lebron is still not ready to take the final step And carry his team to the championship.

[Draz]

Honestly he looks more intense and shit doubt one game makes them scared

[gilalizard]

If I'm a Miami fan I'm not worried about the Knicks. I'm worried about the fact that maybe lebron is still not ready to take the final step And carry his team to the championship.

This.

LeBron took a step backwards by going to Miami and playing with dwhistle. It was an admission he wanted to have it easy on the road to rings, more than he wanted to prove himself worthy of those rings.

[bwink23]

This.

LeBron took a step backwards by going to Miami and playing with dwhistle. It was an admission he wanted to have it easy on the road to rings, more than he wanted to prove himself worthy of those rings.

More like he wanted some damn help.

[Celtics4ever]

LeBron is a weak minded overrated joke. I dont get all the hype on him. He wont be higher than a top 60 player after he retires.

[Celtics4ever]

I don't follow the Heat, so I wouldn't honestly know the inner workings of the organization. So basically you guys argue that Lebron doesn't respect his coach just like Kobe. Okay, lets say that's true, Lebron had faith in Wade to make the shot then. Apparently, he isn't supposed to trust any of his team mates.

You dont follow the heat?! I hope you were being sarcastic because you're the biggest LeBron c0ck sucker around here next to Pauk and LeBron23 and their numerous alternate accounts.

[LBJMVP]

LeBron is a weak minded overrated joke. I dont get all the hype on him. He wont be higher than a top 60 player after he retires.

:lol come on now.

[Doranku]

:roll: Some of you are really dense. Blaming Spoelstra? If LeBron wanted that shot, it would have been his. The problem is that he doesn't WANT to take the last shot. You're telling me that if LeBron says, "Yo Coach, give me the ball. I just hit that three and the and-1 and I'm feeling it right now. I can bring us home", Spoelstra is going to say no? :oldlol:

That dude has about as much control over his team as we do. Like I said, if LeBron wants the ball in that situation, it's his. But he doesn't want these opportunities for whatever reason.

[Whoah10115]

:lol come on now.




Did he say top 60?

[Mr. Jabbar]

Wow, surprised it took you this long to make an appearance in this thread. Lol damn you must have an orgasm when the Heat lose. I've never seen you give them ANY credit when they win.

I've been busy but ill get back on schedule later tonight

[Nick Young]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[RaininTwos]

:roll: Some of you are really dense. Blaming Spoelstra? If LeBron wanted that shot, it would have been his. The problem is that he doesn't WANT to take the last shot. You're telling me that if LeBron says, "Yo Coach, give me the ball. I just hit that three and the and-1 and I'm feeling it right now. I can bring us home", Spoelstra is going to say no? :oldlol:

That dude has about as much control over his team as we do. Like I said, if LeBron wants the ball in that situation, it's his. But he doesn't want these opportunities for whatever reason.
:facepalm

[ihoopallday]

I've been busy but ill get back on schedule later tonight

Lol sounds good. :cheers:

[Simple Jack]

LeBron is a weak minded overrated joke. I dont get all the hype on him. He wont be higher than a top 60 player after he retires.

And you said you like LeBron...

[Simple Jack]

:roll: Some of you are really dense. Blaming Spoelstra? If LeBron wanted that shot, it would have been his. The problem is that he doesn't WANT to take the last shot. You're telling me that if LeBron says, "Yo Coach, give me the ball. I just hit that three and the and-1 and I'm feeling it right now. I can bring us home", Spoelstra is going to say no? :oldlol:

That dude has about as much control over his team as we do. Like I said, if LeBron wants the ball in that situation, it's his. But he doesn't want these opportunities for whatever reason.

He got the ball against Utah + Clippers + GSW in big time situations like this. Obviously it wasn't the playoffs but the ball was in his hands late in the game to make decisions. This is the problem with having 2 great players on one team that are more than capable of taking and making these shots as well as running plays at the end of games.

[NumberSix]

LeBron is a weak minded overrated joke. I dont get all the hype on him. He wont be higher than a top 60 player after he retires.
And yet, that's far beyond anything you could even dream of ever accomplishing in your life.

[gilalizard]

And yet, that's far beyond anything you could even dream of ever accomplishing in your life.

lol lebron's major asset is his physical gifts

he was born with that, thats nothing earned

being an incredibly gifted athlete in itself is no accomplishment, it's what you do with it against your rivals

[NumberSix]

lol lebron's major asset is his physical gifts

he was born with that, thats nothing earned

being an incredibly gifted athlete in itself is no accomplishment, it's what you do with it against your rivals
Yes, because between games, LeBron just chills at home, watching TV and eating doritos. Being tall is all it takes to be an elite athlete.

[KingBeasley08]

LeBron is a weak minded overrated joke. I dont get all the hype on him. He wont be higher than a top 60 player after he retires.
Lebrons already top 20 all time.. idiot :lol

can't say the same for your butt buddy Rose tho. looks like he'll be retiring soon :lol

[tmacattack33]

lol lebron's major asset is his physical gifts

he was born with that, thats nothing earned

being an incredibly gifted athlete in itself is no accomplishment, it's what you do with it against your rivals

LOL. Lebron came in with a pretty weak jump shot and has improved highly in that regard. Same goes for his defense. And he's now getting a little better in the post.

He also makes great decisions and is a great leader which is all mental.

[jlip]

When there is an isolation play called for a player, aren't the other teammates supposed to stand on the perimeter such as to open the floor giving the player with the ball room to operate? Isn't that the whole reason the play is called an "iso"?

[gilalizard]

Yes, because between games, LeBron just chills at home, watching TV and eating doritos. Being tall is all it takes to be an elite athlete.

hard work is not an accomplishment in itself

nobody athletes can work as hard as GOATs, but not see same results because their body is not as good. That's got nothing to do with heart, leadership, mentality, etc. It's simply how they're built.

LeBron is gifted athletically. That in itself is no accomplishment. It's what he does with being so gifted that counts.

So far, he has chosen to be a 2nd to one of the main rivals of his era, so he can have easy victories. That's not the mentality of a GOAT. That's about choice, not gifts.

[Simple Jack]

lol lebron's major asset is his physical gifts

he was born with that, thats nothing earned

being an incredibly gifted athlete in itself is no accomplishment, it's what you do with it against your rivals

He's been referred to as a gym rat by none other than Kobe Bryant.

Where did the whole "LeBron is nothing but athletic" bullshit come from? Does the hate for the dude extend that far that you buy into that garbage?

[swi7ch]

Too bad Spoelstra can't be fired. :( He'll be the Heat's coach for at least 8 more years.

[Simple Jack]

hard work is not an accomplishment in itself

nobody athletes can work as hard as GOATs, but not see same results because their body is not as good. That's got nothing to do with heart, leadership, mentality, etc. It's simply how they're built.

LeBron is gifted athletically. That in itself is no accomplishment. It's what he does with being so gifted that counts.

So far, he has chosen to be a 2nd to one of the main rivals of his era, so he can have easy victories. That's not the mentality of a GOAT. That's about choice, not gifts.

LeBron being a "2nd" :roll: :roll: .

We all know only a poor leader could win 66 games and be the favorites to win the title in back to back years with the likes of Mo Williams as his 2nd option.

[gilalizard]

He's been referred to as a gym rat by none other than Kobe Bryant.

Where did the whole "LeBron is nothing but athletic" bullshit come from? Does the hate for the dude extend that far that you buy into that garbage?

Again, you're equating hardwork with god-given talent.

LeBron is a step above anyone else simply from his natural physique.

Being a gym-rat has zero to do with it.

[gilalizard]

LeBron being a "2nd" :roll: :roll: .

We all know only a poor leader could win 66 games and be the favorites to win the title in back to back years with the likes of Mo Williams as his 2nd option.


LeBron has willingly chosen to be a 2nd. He has chosen to have it easy by letting someone else be alpha when it counts.

Can you imagine MJ ever accepting the role LBJ accepted in crunch-time of the last Knicks/Heat game?

[Simple Jack]

Again, you're equating hardwork with god-given talent.

LeBron is a step above anyone else simply from his natural physique.

Being a gym-rat has zero to do with it.

There are a lot of players who are absurdly athletic. I'm not quite understanding your point.

Look at him since he's entered the league; you think those changes occurred simply because of his natural physique which you seem to think took no hard work to maintain/develop?

[Eat Like A Bosh]

Who would've thought? :oldlol:

[Simple Jack]

LeBron has willingly chosen to be a 2nd. He has chosen to have it easy by letting someone else be alpha when it counts.

Can you imagine MJ ever accepting the role LBJ accepted in crunch-time of the last Knicks/Heat game?

Unfortunately, no one who is expected to be taken seriously sees it that way. Wade has openly admitted who the best player on the team is; the media, who absolutely hates LeBron, has also made it clear.

Having another top 5 player in the league who was also great in the 4th quarter take a shot sometimes in the clutch, doesn't make you a 2nd option.

Can you imagine Magic letting Kareem/Worthy....oh wait.

Was Wade accepting his role as the "2nd option" in every game that LeBron took the final shot or was creating the plays in the 4th quarter with the game close?

[red1]

LOL at all of you nerdy f*gg*ts who somehow managed to make a 12 page thread about the final play of the game. The heat went to wade for the final play and he managed to fumble and overdribble, and you geniuses have somehow managed to come to the conclusion that lebron was scared of the final shot. You not see how he carried the team in the 4th?

Do any of you even play basketball? It's like you want some childish athlete-hero fantasy to be fulfilled, where the best player has to take and make every big shot. Wade is a proven play-maker, if he didn't fumble the shot he could've easily hit lebron for the game-winning three, he fumbled and thats all there is to it. LoL at all you f*gg*ts playing sherlock holmes and overanalyzing

With the expectations you put on lebron, you are indirectly acknowledging that he is one of the GOAT, if these are the main gripes you find with his game

[gilalizard]

There are a lot of players who are absurdly athletic. I'm not quite understanding your point.

Look at him since he's entered the league; you think those changes occurred simply because of his natural physique which you seem to think took no hard work to maintain/develop?

Apparantly.

[Simple Jack]

Apparantly.

Apparently*.

And it would help, I think, if the point you were trying to make actually made sense.

[All Net]

In fairness as much as it is Lebron's fault it is down to the coach as well. Thing is he sees Wade as the closer as he has done it before for years in Miami. It's an odd situation.