View Full Version : MJ playoff points record is going to be shattered
Punpun
05-09-2012, 05:09 AM
Don't you see it guys ? The Lakers are going to play 28 games those playoff. Kobe is currently averaging 31.4 PPG. But for the sake of the discussion let's round it out to 30 PPG. 24x30=840 Points.
Kobe currently has 5393 Points scored in the PO (before the PO started apparently). MJ has 5987 Points. 5987 - 5393 = 594 Points.
In other words, with those measly 840 points, Kobe will have scored 6233 points.
Record Shattered.
Or if my numbers are already up to date, that's 156 (44+43+38+31) less points, thus scoring 6077 points. Record shattered.
5,436 according to Deuce. That's 551 points left for him to pass MJ. Or 19 games left when Kobe will pass Jordan if averaging 30 ppg.
Source : http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/pts_career_p.html
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/110/kobe-bryant
maybeshewill13
05-09-2012, 05:26 AM
Except for the fact the Lakers aren't making the finals..
gengiskhan
05-09-2012, 05:29 AM
Except for the fact the Lakers aren't making out of first round..
corrected.
gengiskhan
05-09-2012, 05:37 AM
The modern day 7-games 1st round series is invented so that MJ all time playoffs scoring record is shattered at some point.
Greatest aspect of MJs all-time PO scoring record is he did it in '80s & '90s when players couldnt score in POs against the "jordan rules", knicks D, Heat D, Pacers D etc etc.
Kobe can score all he wants by pusing First round series to 7 games against defenseless denver & boost up his scoring ave to 31.5 ppgs.
reality is no one cares, He seriously lacks playoffs cinematic moments like GOAT has given us.
Kobe also missing POs in his peak & exiting early after 3-1 lead against Suns in prime peak yrs will cost him dearly as LBJ is on his heals ready to break all the all-time PO scoring ever gonna be set by Kobe.
Durant is heading in same direction too.
Punpun
05-09-2012, 05:40 AM
So much mad from that gengis dude. Good thing I've got him on my ignore list. :oldlol:
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@Maybeshewill, dude with a guy sporting such a nickname, I'd think you would be wiser.
maybeshewill13
05-09-2012, 05:45 AM
So much mad from that gengis dude. Good thing I've got him on my ignore list. :oldlol:
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@Maybeshewill, dude with a guy sporting such a nickname, I'd think you would be wiser.
I can't help the truth :rockon:
chazzy
05-09-2012, 05:49 AM
The modern day 7-games 1st round series is invented so that MJ all time playoffs scoring record is shattered at some point.
You've finally figured it all out
Punpun
05-09-2012, 05:51 AM
Dude. 2 more games means nothing in the grand scheme of things. At best 20 more games in a player career. Which never happen. :oldlol:
bwink23
05-09-2012, 05:52 AM
Don't you see it guys ? The Lakers are going to play 28 games those playoff. Kobe is currently averaging 31.4 PPG. But for the sake of the discussion let's round it out to 30 PPG. 24x30=840 Points.
Kobe currently has 5393 Points scored in the PO. MJ has 5987 Points. 5987 - 5393 = 594 Points.
In other words, with those measly 840 points, Kobe will have scored 6233 points.
Record Shattered.
Or if my numbers are already up to date, that's 156 (44+43+38+31) less points, thus scoring 6077 points. Record shattered.
Source : http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/pts_career_p.html
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/110/kobe-bryant
Jordan NBA-record 33.4ppg in the playoffs....34.7ppg from 85-93. Kobe with another "longetivity" record that will be broken by Lebron James and Kevin Durant at some point.
:rolleyes: .......but, you can wallow around in second-rate records if you like.
Punpun
05-09-2012, 05:55 AM
Dude, nobody hates on KAJ for his "longetivity" record. Why are you hating ? Plus "longitivity" is a great sign of greatness. No idea what you are on.
bwink23
05-09-2012, 05:56 AM
Dude, nobody hates on KAJ for his "longetivity" record. Why are you hating ?
Not hating....great longevity accomplishment from Kobe.
Punpun
05-09-2012, 05:58 AM
You called it second-rate dude. That's clearly hating. Why are thou hating on KAJ ? JJust because he was a muslim ? Dude, you're racist as ****.
bwink23
05-09-2012, 05:59 AM
You called it second-rate dude. That's clearly hating. Why are thou hating on KAJ ? JJust because he was a muslim ? Dude, you're racist as ****.
It is second rate. :confusedshrug:
Punpun
05-09-2012, 06:04 AM
Muslims are second-rate ? :biggums:
thelucifer69
05-09-2012, 06:05 AM
I think he better improve his shooting efficiency
.307 FG% .333 3P% 24.3 PPG Vs OKC this season
There is good chance he will struggle in Round 2
maybeshewill13
05-09-2012, 06:06 AM
You called it second-rate dude. That's clearly hating. Why are thou hating on KAJ ? JJust because he was a muslim ? Dude, you're racist as ****.
:roll:
chains5000
05-09-2012, 06:07 AM
Kobe will break the record, but not this season.
N0Skillz
05-09-2012, 06:08 AM
Muslims are second-rate ? :biggums:
Shaq is Muslim too, he's definitely not second rate on anything except acting
bmulls
05-09-2012, 06:09 AM
You called it second-rate dude. That's clearly hating. Why are thou hating on KAJ ? JJust because he was a muslim ? Dude, you're racist as ****.
You are retarded dude, stop posting.
Brett Favre has every QB record known to man because he played forever. He also has the most interceptions and most fumbles. Same as Kobe needing 2000 more shots to pass Jordan on the single franchise scoring list, or how ever many more playoff games he's played than Jordan to get the playoff scoring record.
You play long enough and you will rack up records. Thing is, while he is great, nobody is ever going to say Brett Favre was a better QB than Dan Marino, Joe Montana, etc just because he has the records.
It is a second rate record.
Punpun
05-09-2012, 06:12 AM
Why are you hating on longetivity bro ? Longetivity while dominating is one of the greatest mark that you're an all-time great instead of a fluke.
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Oh I see, you are putting it as a MJ vs Kobe thing. It's not. :oldlol:
maybeshewill13
05-09-2012, 06:12 AM
You are retarded dude, stop posting.
Brett Favre has every QB record known to man because he played forever. He also has the most interceptions and most fumbles. Same as Kobe needing 2000 more shots to pass Jordan on the single franchise scoring list, or how ever many more playoff games he's played than Jordan to get the playoff scoring record.
You play long enough and you will rack up records. Thing is, while he is great, nobody is ever going to say Brett Favre was a better QB than Dan Marino, Joe Montana, etc just because he has the records.
It is a second rate record.
Soo.. What you're saying is Muslims are second-rate? :biggums:
Punpun
05-09-2012, 06:13 AM
They are freaking racist dude. I'm shocked.
maybeshewill13
05-09-2012, 06:17 AM
The nerve of ISH.. What have Muslims ever done to America?
Punpun
05-09-2012, 06:18 AM
They sell oil to America. No idea where the hate comes from.
maybeshewill13
05-09-2012, 06:22 AM
They sell oil to America. No idea where the hate comes from.
Really? I thought America just invaded their countries and took it? Learn something new every day!
Punpun
05-09-2012, 06:26 AM
Those were bad muslims.
PyrrhusX
05-09-2012, 07:12 AM
Kobe will break it in a few years, no way he makes the finals this year.
HylianNightmare
05-09-2012, 10:03 AM
corrected.
:wtf:
Michael Jordan:
179 playoff games
5943 points on 33.4 ppg @ 49% FG average
highest - 43.7 ppg
lowest - 29.3 ppg
Kobe Bryant:
213 playoff games
5436 points on 25.5 ppg @ 45% FG average
highest - 32.8 ppg
lowest - 8.2 ppg, as a starter 19.8 ppg
When Kobe played equal amount of playoff games as Jordan (179 games) he had only 4381 points to Jordans 5943...
Jordan needed only ~120 games compared to Kobes 179 get 4381 points...
Jordan needed only ~160 games compared to Kobes 213 to get Kobes current 5436 points...
Kobe needs 23+ more playoff games at his current scoring rate to match Jordans 5943 points and considering Kobe has played an average of 7 games these past two seasons in the playoffs it will take him an estimated 3-4 years (when he is 36-37 years old) to match Jordans career playoff points...
Just saying....
A longevity record for Kobe, thats all, which will probably be destroyed by Lebron & Durant anyways....
I know its fun as a Kobe fan to compare him to Jordan.... but i hope you understand that Jordan was just on a whole different level....
maybeshewill13
05-09-2012, 11:24 AM
Michael Jordan:
179 playoff games
5943 points on 33.4 ppg @ 49% FG average
highest - 43.7 ppg
lowest - 29.3 ppg
Kobe Bryant:
213 playoff games
5436 points on 25.5 ppg @ 45% FG average
highest - 32.8 ppg
lowest - 8.2 ppg, as a starter 19.8 ppg
:bowdown:
Punpun
05-09-2012, 11:26 AM
>I know its fun as a Kobe fan to compare him to Jordan.... but i hope you understand that Jordan was just on a whole different level....
Nobody gives a shit son. Did your jimmies get rustled, son ? A record is on the verge of getting broken, I simply pointed it out. Stop being a stan and putting everything on a confrontational stage.
Try loving the Game of Basketball instead of wanking to whatever is your crusade bro.
Odinn
05-09-2012, 11:28 AM
Jordan's playoff ppg; 33.4
Kobe's playoff ppg; 25.5
Jordan's playoff ppg until his first retirement(in his prime); 34.7
Kobe's playoff ppg in his prime(01-10); 28.9
Kobe has already played 34 more playoff games. Yet he still needs 552 points to surpass Jordan.
Fail thread.
maybeshewill13
05-09-2012, 11:29 AM
http://i48.tinypic.com/iyh6l5.gif
Punpun
05-09-2012, 11:29 AM
Another butthurt stan. Lay off the haterade guys. :oldlol:
maybeshewill13
05-09-2012, 11:30 AM
Another butthurt stan. Lay off the haterade guys. :oldlol:
Racists, the lot of em'.
Punpun
05-09-2012, 11:31 AM
Dude totally. It's like those guys like KAJ and Kobe fukced their father in front of them.
:oldlol:
Glide2keva
05-09-2012, 12:08 PM
Dude totally. It's like those guys like KAJ and Kobe fukced their father in front of them.
:oldlol:
What are you 12?
The Iron Fist
05-09-2012, 12:09 PM
The modern day 7-games 1st round series is invented so that MJ all time playoffs scoring record is shattered at some point.
Greatest aspect of MJs all-time PO scoring record is he did it in '80s & '90s when players couldnt score in POs against the "jordan rules", knicks D, Heat D, Pacers D etc etc.
Kobe can score all he wants by pusing First round series to 7 games against defenseless denver & boost up his scoring ave to 31.5 ppgs.
reality is no one cares, He seriously lacks playoffs cinematic moments like GOAT has given us.
Kobe also missing POs in his peak & exiting early after 3-1 lead against Suns in prie peak yrs will cost him dearly as LBJ is on his heals ready to break all the all-time PO scoring ever gonna be set by Kobe.
Durant is heading in same direction too.
I guess it cancels out the league going to a best of five format so Jordan could break the record.
Punpun
05-09-2012, 12:21 PM
What are you 12?
Feeling insecure ? :biggums:
dude77
05-09-2012, 01:03 PM
this thread here .. :oldlol:
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/steelermia/56.jpg
Michael Jordan:
179 playoff games
5943 points on 33.4 ppg @ 49% FG average
highest - 43.7 ppg
lowest - 29.3 ppg
Kobe Bryant:
213 playoff games
5436 points on 25.5 ppg @ 45% FG average
highest - 32.8 ppg
lowest - 8.2 ppg, as a starter 19.8 ppg
When Kobe played equal amount of playoff games as Jordan (179 games) he had only 4381 points to Jordans 5943...
Jordan needed only ~120 games compared to Kobes 179 get 4381 points...
Jordan needed only ~160 games compared to Kobes 213 to get Kobes current 5436 points...
Kobe needs 23+ more playoff games at his current scoring rate to match Jordans 5943 points
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/steelermia/michael-jordan-laughing-0310-200-1.jpg
Punpun
05-09-2012, 01:05 PM
Anything relevant to say ? :oldlol:
bmulls
05-09-2012, 01:08 PM
Anything relevant to say ? :oldlol:
I give your trolling a 6.5/10, you had me going at first
Punpun
05-09-2012, 01:13 PM
Where did I troll son ? I didn't make ONE comparison between Kobe and MJ. Not ONE. Just talked about the milestone that will be cracked this post-season.
DTreats
05-09-2012, 01:15 PM
Like it or not Kobe will pass MJ for most playoff points.
I can't believe the racist pigs who called KAJ a raghead son of allah.
You guys are despicable.
Cali Syndicate
05-09-2012, 01:25 PM
Muslims are second-rate ? :biggums:
Wow...that was an elite level deflection. Crazy.
Punpun
05-09-2012, 01:33 PM
U jelly ?
Cali Syndicate
05-09-2012, 01:38 PM
U jelly ?
Me? Naw.
How bout you? You peanut butter?
Punpun
05-09-2012, 01:47 PM
WHat's that ?
Deuce Bigalow
05-09-2012, 01:48 PM
correction: Kobe currently has 5,436 playoff points
Punpun
05-09-2012, 01:50 PM
correction: Kobe currently has 5,436 playoff points
I posted the links where I got my stats dude.
Deuce Bigalow
05-09-2012, 01:52 PM
I posted the links where I got my stats dude.
Yes I know, but you posted that he has 5,393. He scored 43 yesterday. So he currently has 5,436, not 5,393.
Punpun
05-09-2012, 01:54 PM
I don't know if Basket-ball reference is up to date or not. I edited my initial post to take in account what you said.
Deuce Bigalow
05-09-2012, 01:56 PM
I don't know if Basket-ball reference is up to date or not. I edited my initial post to take in account what you said.
It's not according to me. It's according to the link you posted :D
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/pts_career_p.html
Deuce Bigalow
05-09-2012, 01:57 PM
Michael Jordan:
179 playoff games
5943 points on 33.4 ppg @ 49% FG average
highest - 43.7 ppg
lowest - 29.3 ppg
Kobe Bryant:
213 playoff games
5436 points on 25.5 ppg @ 45% FG average
highest - 32.8 ppg
lowest - 8.2 ppg, as a starter 19.8 ppg
When Kobe played equal amount of playoff games as Jordan (179 games) he had only 4381 points to Jordans 5943...
Jordan needed only ~120 games compared to Kobes 179 get 4381 points...
Jordan needed only ~160 games compared to Kobes 213 to get Kobes current 5436 points...
Kobe needs 23+ more playoff games at his current scoring rate to match Jordans 5943 points and considering Kobe has played an average of 7 games these past two seasons in the playoffs it will take him an estimated 3-4 years (when he is 36-37 years old) to match Jordans career playoff points...
Just saying....
A longevity record for Kobe, thats all, which will probably be destroyed by Lebron & Durant anyways....
I know its fun as a Kobe fan to compare him to Jordan.... but i hope you understand that Jordan was just on a whole different level....
lol no
Jordan's first playoffs were when he was 21. Kobe's was when he was 18.
Jordan's playoff total from age 21-32: 4,717
Kobe's playoff total from age 21-32: 4,952
Punpun
05-09-2012, 01:57 PM
Oh they updated it. Damn. Now they ruined my calc. I'm going to have to redo them all.
dude77
05-09-2012, 02:37 PM
lol no
Jordan's first playoffs were when he was 21. Kobe's was when he was 18.
Jordan's playoff total from age 21-32: 4,717
Kobe's playoff total from age 21-32: 4,952
jordan playoff games from age 21-32 : 121
bryant playoff games from age 21-32: 180
you kobe stans must love embarrassing yourselves .. keep it comin' :oldlol:
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/steelermia/michael-jordan-cigar.jpg
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
05-09-2012, 02:40 PM
Yeah, shattered with far less efficiency on more volume. :oldlol:
juju151111
05-09-2012, 02:40 PM
jordan playoff games from age 21-32 : 121
bryant playoff games from age 21-32: 180
you kobe stans must love embarrassing yourselves .. keep it comin' :oldlol:
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/steelermia/michael-jordan-cigar.jpg
Pwned
Deuce Bigalow
05-09-2012, 02:41 PM
jordan playoff games from age 21-32 : 121
bryant playoff games from age 21-32: 180
you kobe stans must love embarrassing yourselves .. keep it comin' :oldlol:
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/steelermia/michael-jordan-cigar.jpg
Jordan jockers :facepalm
I was just saying when you compare the ages, they aint that far off. It wasn't until Kobe was 21 until he was developed, his stats before that lower his averages.
Punpun
05-09-2012, 02:46 PM
To all Jordan stans. I, in no way, endorse this sterile fight as we all know within us who the best player is. So cease this ******ry.
Deuce Bigalow
05-09-2012, 02:46 PM
Yeah, shattered with far less efficiency on more volume. :oldlol:
far less efficiency?
Jordan - .503 eFG%
Kobe - .481 eFG%
so "far less"
more volume?
Jordan has taken more FGA than Kobe, despite playing 34 less games
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
05-09-2012, 02:55 PM
far less efficiency?
Jordan - .503 eFG%
Kobe - .481 eFG%
so "far less"
more volume?
Jordan has taken more FGA than Kobe, despite playing 34 less games
Kobe has already taken 100+ shots this series alone. He needs exactly 165 more FGA to tie Jordan.
In the playoffs:
Jordan - 49%FG / 57%TS / 50%eFG - 33 ppg
Kobe - 45%FG / 54%TS / 48%eFG - 26 ppg
It's not even close. :oldlol:
Legends66NBA7
05-09-2012, 02:56 PM
Some of you guys in this thread... :facepalm
Deuce Bigalow
05-09-2012, 02:59 PM
Kobe has already taken 100+ shots this series alone. He needs exactly 165 more FGA to tie Jordan.
In the playoffs:
Jordan - 49%FG / 57%TS / 50%eFG - 33 ppg
Kobe - 45%FG / 54%TS / 48%eFG - 26 ppg
It's not even close. :oldlol:
Kobe has played in 34 more games, yet needs 165 more FGA to tie Jordan in FGA. Jordan has taken so much more FGA than Kobe
25.1 FGA average in the Playoffs
20.3 FGA average for Kobe
50 eFG% for MJ, 48 eFG% for Kobe. Not that far away in efficiency.
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
05-09-2012, 03:03 PM
Kobe has played in 34 more games, yet needs 165 more FGA to tie Jordan in FGA. Jordan has taken so much more FGA than Kobe
What does it say when Kobe's career PPG average is 7 less than Jordan's yet he is nearly equal in points with WORSE efficiency (that's still dropping)?
:oldlol:
Punpun
05-09-2012, 03:08 PM
That the league has become way better. Now stop polluting my thread.
swi7ch
05-09-2012, 03:10 PM
If Jordan came out of high school AND didn't have his 2 year absence, he would shatter every offensive record and no one would be touching his scoring records.
Sucks Kobe can beat him in an unfair way.
Punpun
05-09-2012, 03:11 PM
That's named Uchrony swi7ch. That's not a logical argument. It's the contrary actually. Don't be a foul.
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
05-09-2012, 03:13 PM
That the league has become way better. Now stop polluting my thread.
Right, well, when Jordan was winning championships your boy couldn't crack the Lakers starting lineup.
:bowdown:
I'll be on my way though...
Legends66NBA7
05-09-2012, 03:13 PM
Where did I troll son ? I didn't make ONE comparison between Kobe and MJ. Not ONE. Just talked about the milestone that will be cracked this post-season.
It should be noted that you bring up Jordan in something and say Kobe will surpass it, it will automatically mean a "debate".
It happens a lot on this site.
Deuce Bigalow
05-09-2012, 03:15 PM
Right, well, when Jordan was winning championships your boy couldn't crack the Lakers starting lineup.
:bowdown:
I'll be on my way though...
And at that same age Jordan wasn't good enough to be on a NBA roster
Punpun
05-09-2012, 03:20 PM
It should be noted that you bring up Jordan in something and say Kobe will surpass it, it will automatically mean a "debate".
It happens a lot on this site.
Dude, is it my fault there is Jordan's name there ? And that another player ihas the possibility to pass his record ? Is that my freaking fault ? Seriously ?
OldSchoolBBall
05-09-2012, 03:22 PM
Funny how his playoff scoring average isn't even close to being broken, however. Gotta love how Kobe fans always harp on longevity-based numbers rather than actual impact numbers. :oldlol:
Punpun
05-09-2012, 03:25 PM
Funny how his playoff scoring average isn't even close to being broken, however. Gotta love how Kobe fans always harp on longevity-based numbers rather than actual impact numbers. :oldlol:
Dude, go spout your drivel of hate elsewhere. THat's not the topic of the thread. I'd like you to delete this drivel of hate.
Calabis
05-09-2012, 03:26 PM
Kobe has played in 34 more games, yet needs 165 more FGA to tie Jordan in FGA. Jordan has taken so much more FGA than Kobe
25.1 FGA average in the Playoffs
20.3 FGA average for Kobe
50 eFG% for MJ, 48 eFG% for Kobe. Not that far away in efficiency.
That may have to do with Kobe struggling far more often, with far more 40% FG series. I like how people always say....look how many more FGA he has than Kobe...huge difference and prime example was last night....Jordan didn't shoot his team into not wanting to play, because he shot 50% more than not(early on Jordan did)...Bynum quit and was pissed, watching Kome jack 32 shots, last night.....people act like Kobe doesn't shoot as much as MJ, because "he isn't as selfish" :roll: He doesn't because he's less efficient and it will hurt his team far more. Jordan shot far more within the realm of the offense, while Kome plays one on one far more
chazzy
05-09-2012, 03:28 PM
.Bynum quit and was pissed, watching Kome jack 32 shots, last night.....
Yeah.. you didn't watch the game last night
chips93
05-09-2012, 03:28 PM
Kobe has played in 34 more games, yet needs 165 more FGA to tie Jordan in FGA. Jordan has taken so much more FGA than Kobe
25.1 FGA average in the Playoffs
20.3 FGA average for Kobe
50 eFG% for MJ, 48 eFG% for Kobe. Not that far away in efficiency.
eFG% is bullshit
TS% is a much better indicator of shooting efficeincy
Calabis
05-09-2012, 03:29 PM
What does it say when Kobe's career PPG average is 7 less than Jordan's yet he is nearly equal in points with WORSE efficiency (that's still dropping)?
:oldlol:
This is why I laugh at how guys, act like 50% is not much different than 45%
RazorBaLade
05-09-2012, 03:34 PM
This is why I laugh at how guys, act like 50% is not much different than 45%
Its one shot per game.
Deuce Bigalow
05-09-2012, 03:35 PM
This is why I laugh at how guys, act like 50% is not much different than 45%
Kobe 3pt attempts: 858
Jordan 3pt attempts: 446
Legends66NBA7
05-09-2012, 03:37 PM
Dude, is it my fault there is Jordan's name there ? And that another player ihas the possibility to pass his record ? Is that my freaking fault ? Seriously ?
I didn't say it was your fault. It was just going to happen, no mater who the poster was.
I wouldn't really care either if LeBron James or Kevin Durant broke the record one day either... I would probably see the same thing happen, but to a lesser degree.
Legends66NBA7
05-09-2012, 03:37 PM
Its one shot per game.
No... stop it.
Stop making this more of Jordan vs Bryant debate than it already was forced to be.
RazorBaLade
05-09-2012, 03:40 PM
No... stop it.
Stop making this more of Jordan vs Bryant debate than it already was forced to be.
The difference between 50% and 45% on 20 attempts is one shot per game. I'm just talking math here, nothing attached to names.
:)
Legends66NBA7
05-09-2012, 03:42 PM
The difference between 50% and 45% on 20 attempts is one shot per game. I'm just talking math here, nothing attached to names.
:)
Okay... as long as we can keep it that way.
Calabis
05-09-2012, 03:45 PM
Yeah.. you didn't watch the game last night
Yes I did watch the game, I think Kobe should shoot, but his style of shooting at times makes guys quit or "stand and watch" way more than MJ, (except Jordans early days...he was the same way). Kobe is in season 16...shouldn't he be more selective by now?
Calabis
05-09-2012, 03:46 PM
Its one shot per game.
yup and over a career is 7 less ppg
Calabis
05-09-2012, 03:47 PM
Kobe 3pt attempts: 858
Jordan 3pt attempts: 446
:facepalm
Jordan now sucks because he had better shot seletion than Kobe....Kobe was forced to chuck those threes....which still result if less ppg
OldSchoolBBall
05-09-2012, 03:50 PM
Amazing that these stans can act like Kobe is anywhere near the playoff performer Jordan was. :oldlol:
MJ's playoff numbers through his first retirement (111 games, 24 series):
34.8 pts/6.7 reb/6.7 ast/2.4 stl/1.1 blk/51.5% FG. Yeah, that's basically 35/7/7/2+/1+/51% FG over 111 playoff games. Unreal that anyone thinks Kobe compares when he's had maybe - MAYBE - a half dozen series in his ENTIRE CAREER that are even ON that level, and probably only 2-3 that are clearly superior to it.
chazzy
05-09-2012, 03:51 PM
Yes I did watch the game, I think Kobe should shoot, but his style of shooting at times makes guys quit or "stand and watch" way more than MJ, (except Jordans early days...he was the same way). Kobe is in season 16...shouldn't he be more selective by now?
He had around ~22 shots going into the 4th and shot 7 or 8 down the stretch when he got them back into the game. His shooting isn't an excuse for Bynum's body language throughout the game.
RazorBaLade
05-09-2012, 03:51 PM
yup and over a career is 7 less ppg
nvm. respecting Legends66 wishes.
Calabis
05-09-2012, 04:21 PM
nvm. respecting Legends66 wishes.
Yes, nevermind me and you have done this before..its pointless :cheers:
Punpun
05-09-2012, 04:52 PM
I'm in despair. Thanks for trolling me and ruining my thread.
The Iron Fist
05-09-2012, 05:18 PM
Yes I did watch the game, I think Kobe should shoot, but his style of shooting at times makes guys quit or "stand and watch" way more than MJ, (except Jordans early days...he was the same way). Kobe is in season 16...shouldn't he be more selective by now?
What exactly are your credentials to determine how a five time champion should approach the game?
Calabis
05-09-2012, 05:43 PM
What exactly are your credentials to determine how a five time champion should approach the game?
I think Kobe approaches the game fine, he's also a great playoff game performer.....but when you start comparing him, too arguable the best playoff performer, he comes up short period. Kobe in my mind tends to try to force the memorable moment too often....two seasons ago against the Suns, dude played brillant basketball, it was pure art watching him play that series. He played in the frame of the offense, took high quality shots, took what the defense gave him...therefore outstanding series performance.
Legends66NBA7
05-09-2012, 05:46 PM
I think Kobe approaches the game fine, he's also a great playoff game performer.....but when you start comparing him, too arguable the best playoff performer, he comes up short period.
To be honest, I don't think that was the OP's intention.
PTB Fan
05-09-2012, 05:46 PM
I'd be disappointed if he doesn't considering how many more games he has played.
Calabis
05-09-2012, 05:49 PM
To be honest, I don't think that was the OP's intention.
I don't either, but any Kobe/MJ thread, one or the other is brought up and comparison is made
Doctor Rivers
05-09-2012, 05:50 PM
To be honest, I don't think that was the OP's intention.
this
NumberSix
05-09-2012, 05:56 PM
To be honest, I don't think that was the OP's intention.
Dude, OP is a notorious Kobetard/troll. It was clearly his intention to imply Kobe>MJ purely to start trouble.
Legends66NBA7
05-09-2012, 05:58 PM
I don't either, but any Kobe/MJ thread, one or the other is brought up and comparison is made
Good point.
This is why I even told the OP, that things, like the comparisons on ISH, will be inevitable. Not his fault.
Punpun
05-09-2012, 06:00 PM
Not at all son. Though I'm notorious, now that's funny. :oldlol:
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Please, the only, I thought, thing susceptible to cause bs like that in my opening statement was me flat out writing the Lakers would make the finals.
Turns out, simply saying some player is going to break some other guy record is enough to turn a HIM vs HIM. Which really show you guys would talk about anything.
Legends66NBA7
05-09-2012, 06:00 PM
It was clearly his intention to imply Kobe>MJ purely to start trouble.
I didn't think he was trying to compare, at all, or even say Kobe > MJ.
If that was his intention, then really... we should already know by now who's better, anyways.
Punpun
05-09-2012, 06:01 PM
Dude, am I notorious ? :biggums:
Legends66NBA7
05-09-2012, 06:02 PM
Dude, am I notorious ? :biggums:
:confusedshrug:
gengiskhan
05-09-2012, 06:05 PM
To be honest, I don't think that was the OP's intention.
thats exactly OPs intention was.
There is a 8 ppg Playoffs difference btw Kobe & MJ.
Something Kobe can never think of overcoming.
Kobe is a "good" playoff performer not "great" & OP knows that.
MJ is not just "great" but "the greatest" playoffs performer ever.
Punpun
05-09-2012, 06:07 PM
Guys, Kobe is also going to shatters KAJ's record. Oh my god, am I impling something here too ?
:biggums:
bwink23
05-09-2012, 06:19 PM
The difference between 50% and 45% on 20 attempts is one shot per game. I'm just talking math here, nothing attached to names.
:)
NO IT' IT'S NOT....
If i take 20 and hit 10 for 50%...you take 20 hit 9 for 45%....you have to hit your next to shots to hit 50%.
You're 2 shots off pace. That adds up majorly over the course of a season.
Let's put it this way....if it was essentially just "1 shot", and it's so damn close. Then how come Kobe hasn't had add least ONE DAMN SEASON of 50%FG ?? If it was close, the odds would have swung in favor of 50%FG at least once.
Don't bring "3-pointers" into the argument either. Kobe's had a few seasons taking just 2-3 attempts from 3 and still never came close to 50%FG
maybeshewill13
05-09-2012, 07:09 PM
Guys, Kobe is also going to shatters KAJ's record. Oh my god, am I impling something here too ?
:biggums:
:biggums:
So you want Kobe to shatter KAJs record so a muslim doesn't hold the records?
Fckin' racist.
Punpun
05-09-2012, 07:16 PM
And proud of it. Wacchu gonna do ? :coleman:
The Iron Fist
05-09-2012, 07:17 PM
I think Kobe approaches the game fine, he's also a great playoff game performer.....but when you start comparing him, too arguable the best playoff performer, he comes up short period. Kobe in my mind tends to try to force the memorable moment too often....two seasons ago against the Suns, dude played brillant basketball, it was pure art watching him play that series. He played in the frame of the offense, took high quality shots, took what the defense gave him...therefore outstanding series performance.
Nobody is comparing them though. It was simply pointed out that a recored will be broken.
Calabis
05-09-2012, 07:22 PM
Nobody is comparing them though. It was simply pointed out that a recored will be broken.
I know the OP's intention was not to compare, I simply replied to Deuce Bigalow who was doing exactly that
lilgodfather1
05-09-2012, 08:51 PM
This thread is awfully premature. I will say I believe that it will happen, but all it takes is one injury and that hope is gone. If the Lakers play 12 games this playoffs, and he gets injured next year then he may never play another playoff game in is life.
I wish him the best of health though, and I want to see him hold that record. Just one more cherry on the sundae that is Kobe Bryant's NBA career. Truly one of the greats.
Duncan21formvp
05-09-2012, 09:34 PM
The amazing thing is that MJ is the only player to even average 30+ ppg in the playoffs for a career. In fact he is basically 4 ppg higher than anyone else. Not to mention Kobe has already played 34 more playoff games than MJ due to him going to a winning organization from the get go with a guy in his prime who was top 3 in the league from the get go.
bwink23
05-09-2012, 09:53 PM
The amazing thing is that MJ is the only player to even average 30+ ppg in the playoffs for a career. In fact he is basically 4 ppg higher than anyone else. Not to mention Kobe has already played 34 more playoff games than MJ due to him going to a winning organization from the get go with a guy in his prime who was top 3 in the league from the get go.
Jordan dumped 49 and 63 in the second playoff series he ever played against the eventual NBA champion Boston Celtics on their NBA-record 40-1 home floor. :wtf:
Just a sign of things to come....:pimp:
Deuce Bigalow
05-09-2012, 09:56 PM
Jordan dumped 49 and 63 in the second playoff series he ever played against the eventual NBA champion Boston Celtics on their NBA-record 40-1 home floor. :wtf:
Just a sign of things to come....:pimp:
and got swept
bwink23
05-09-2012, 09:57 PM
and got swept
Yes....his sorry ass team got swept by the NBA Champion Celtics. Jordan didn't have the luxury of coming to a team that won 56 games the year prior like someone we both know....:lol
Doctor Rivers
05-09-2012, 10:49 PM
Yes....his sorry ass team got swept by the NBA Champion Celtics. Jordan didn't have the luxury of coming to a team that won 56 games the year prior like someone we both know....:lol
KOBE
Da_Realist
05-09-2012, 11:14 PM
34 more playoff games and still has 62 fewer rebounds, 11 fewer assists, 75 fewer steals and 15 fewer blocks than MJ.
MJ took 166 more shots than Kobe, but incredibly Kobe has already missed 83 more field goals. :hammerhead:
RaininTwos
05-09-2012, 11:16 PM
PPG>>>>>>>>>>>Total points when you have a decent sample size.
The Iron Fist
05-10-2012, 12:06 AM
Yes....his sorry ass team got swept by the NBA Champion Celtics. Jordan didn't have the luxury of coming to a team that won 56 games the year prior like someone we both know....:lol
And what championship does that 56 win team have?
bleedinpurpleTwo
05-10-2012, 12:23 AM
Probably wont happen this season, but maybe next, if he can stay healthy and play at a high level.
lakerspng
05-10-2012, 02:34 AM
Why would anyone for any reason try to diminish this accomplishment? Simply put of all the great players who ever played this game, Kobe will have more career points in the playoffs than any. That's damn amazing. Cant we just say thank you for the effort, it's been an honor watching you perform.
gengiskhan
05-10-2012, 06:39 AM
PPG>>>>>>>>>>>Total points when you have a decent sample size.
These are kobe'tard we're dealing with here.
Full Retards dont understand "sample size" definition.
Just some heads up. :coleman:
Doctor Rivers
05-10-2012, 06:39 AM
These are kobe'tard we're dealing with here.
Full Retards dont understand "sample size" definition.
Just some heads up. :coleman:
KOBE
TheWINdyCity
05-10-2012, 02:14 PM
kobe kobe kobe kobe kobe kobe kobe kobe kobe kobe kobe
:coleman:
D-Wade316
05-10-2012, 03:25 PM
PPG > Points Total
Punpun
05-10-2012, 03:46 PM
Hmm not really. You're offtopic though.
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