Will Dark Knight Rises break Avengers recently set box office record?

[Clippersfan86]

Thoughts? Just read this very interesting article/insight and got me thinking.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2012/05/07/why-the-dark-knight-rises-may-not-break-the-avengers-opening-record/

People are hyping up Avengers record but remember Dark Knight as article says is a much more mature film and parents are far less likely to let kids see it. Then you factor in that 3D was available for Avengers, which none of Batman movies offer. Both of which factor GREATLY into sales.

Think Rises can overcome lack of young kids+lack of 3D to re-set the record? I think it will break the record TBH. Mainly because I think hundreds of millions world wide missed DK in theaters only to hear hype and watch later, realizing it was one of the greatest movies of all time. They won't let that happen again. Everybody is going to see Dark Knight Rises.

BTW newest trailer looks A LOT better than other ones I saw. They may be using the camera angle trick for Bane because in one particular clip he looks a lot bigger than Christian Bale. If they can pull it off without CGI I'm all for it.

[El Kabong]

Nope and I dare say it'll do slightly less than Dark Knight did. Doesn't have the big Heath Ledger/Joker hype going into it.

[brantonli]

I don't think it will break it. Avengers was helped by the fact that the international release was over a week before the US release, which meant that word about the Avengers could spread on the internet and on reviews everywhere, and so everybody in the US tried to go and see it on the weekend. The Dark Knight will be released on the same day everywhere.

And also repeat viewings.

[rezznor]

yea, i don't see as many repeat viewings for dkr as there were for avengers. i'm sure dkr will be a great movie, but i doubt it will be as fun. it won't beat out the avengers.

[DeuceWallaces]

I doubt it will break DK's records. Will be a good movie, but I know I'm not as excited for it. Second one was pretty ridiculous at the end anyway.

[rezznor]

also, there's not nearly as much hype for this one as there was for tdk

[DeuceWallaces]

Maybe Ann Hathaway can OD or something.

[Nanners]

i think DKR has a good chance to beat the avengers, even without kids, parents and 3D. the batman films have an absolutely rabid fanbase, my friends have been talking up this movie in anticipation for years. if i had to guess, i expect more people will go see DKR than did avengers, and i expect DKR is more likely to attract repeat viewers. Also DKR has a better release date imo (july 20th is perfect blockbuster season)

[DeuceWallaces]

There's no way it makes up 30 million, when it has half the hype of the 2nd one and a villian/actor that casuals will not get excited for. The internet and media in general was in a frenzy for months leading up to the release of DK due to Heath's death and his virtuoso performance as the Joker.

[Alamo]

Maybe Ann Hathaway can OD or something.


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[Skywalker]

Yes it will.

[Nanners]

There's no way it makes up 30 million, when it has half the hype of the 2nd one and a villian/actor that casuals will not get excited for. The internet and media in general was in a frenzy for months leading up to the release of DK due to Heath's death and his virtuoso performance as the Joker.

you may be right, i am definitely not an expert when it comes to predicting how a movie is going to do in the box office.

that said, from what i can tell, the hype for DKR is much greater than the hype for Avengers. no doubt heath was the reason that DK shot into the stratosphere. im thinking that due to the success of DK, and the sheer popularity of batman and power of the brand (look at the success of the batman video games), the next movie can kill at the box office without a masterpiece performance from a recently deceased actor.

[Alamo]

I honestly don't see how it could. People of all ages loved Avengers, kids would probably fall asleep watching Dark Knight. Also, almost everyone I know went back to see Avengers a second time. I just don't think people will be that excited about TDK. There's no way Dark Knight rises even tops the first one.

[DeuceWallaces]

I'm no expert either, but the current hype does not exceed the Avengers, it's not as kid friendly, and it's not 3d. I would be surprised if it beats DK's 172.

I mean, If DKR's hype is not as big as DK's hype, and Avengers crushed DK...

[Nanners]

I'm no expert either, but the current hype does not exceed the Avengers, it's not as kid friendly, and it's not 3d. I would be surprised if it beats DK's 172.

I mean, If DKR's hype is not as big as DK's hype, and Avengers crushed DK...

maybe its just where i live or the people i hang out with, but i have seen an insane amount of hype for DKR. thats the main reason I think it will come out on top in the first place, to me it seems hyped beyond belief and the batman brand is unstoppable.

[Jordan-esque]

What fans realize is that Chris Nolan's first Batman film, "Batman Begins" did just okay.

In fact, "Batman Begins" came behind (yes, behind) both "Fantastic Four" and "Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer". Crazy.

At that time most projectionist foresaw "The Dark Knight" as making around or even less than "Spider-Man 2" type of money based on "Batman Begins" performance.

But before TDK came out, most of the generated buzz coming in was the death of Heath Ledger months before the release. Basically TDK was his last film which caught audiences all over to check it out, statistics even had over 50% of the audience being female, I think still the highest in a comicbook movie. The fact that TDK was a good film too gave it real good legs for people to check it out.

[Saintsfan1992]

Batman>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the gay ass avenger league.

:pimp:

[Jordan-esque]

Batman>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the gay ass avenger league.

:pimp:
But, according to DC... it's the other way around.

Batman is actually the Gay one!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/26/batman-gay-grant-morrison-superhero-comics_n_1456878.html#s515732&title=Alicia_Keys_


Is Batman, one of the world's most iconic superheroes really a gay man?

http://www.toplessrobot.com/dark-knight-rises-movie-Bat-Bane-Showdown-550x382.jpg

Batman writer Grant Morrison, who is best known for revamping DC Comics' family of Batman titles, spoke at length about comic superheroes in an interview with Playboy magazine, confirming maybe those Batman and Robin rumors aren't so far-fetched after all, because the title character is "very gay" says Morrison.

"There’s an aspirational quality to him—he’s an outlaw and he can buy anything. He’s a rich man who beats up poor people. It’s quite a bizarre mission to go out at night dressed as a bat and punch the hell out of junkies. And then he goes home and lives in this mansion. He has a new Batmobile every movie. He’s very plutonian in the sense that he’s wealthy and also in the sense that he’s sexually deviant."

"Gayness is built into Batman. I’m not using gay in the pejorative sense, but Batman is very, very gay. There’s just no denying it. Obviously as a fictional character he’s intended to be heterosexual, but the basis of the whole concept is utterly gay. I think that’s why people like it. All these women fancy him and they all wear fetish clothes and jump around rooftops to get to him. He doesn’t care—he’s more interested in hanging out with the old guy and the kid.”

Morrison added that this was part of the appeal: "I think that's why people like it."

Batman’s next big screen outing The Dark Knight Rises is released this summer.

Sorry but your post was just asking for it though.

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Ok back on topic...

Before Avengers came out, I actually thought TDKR had a shot in surpassing The Avengers because I didn't think the Avengers would even surpass "Harry Potter: Deathly Hollows 2".

Now I don't know.

But TDKR still has a lot of things going for them:

- It's the end of a Trilogy (they tend to always outdo their prequels)

- People know this is Nolan's final Batman film

- TDK had the record for most female attendance for a cbm (thanks to Heath Ledger), will they still be interested to see Rises?

- WB have theaters under contracts and always tend to open in more theaters than any other studios (TDK opened to 20 more theaters 4 years ago than The Avengers even did today; going by today's inflation at ~ $18,000 per theater, that's an extra $1.05 million more for a WB film for the weekend).

- July is a more favorable release date (school's out for the summer meaning higher morning totals, no Mother's Day, no NBA Playoffs)

- Lesser competition in cinemas to deal with (no Battleship, no Prometheus, no Men In Black 3, no Amazing Spider-Man, etc.)

[Alamo]

I think the Avengers will hold this record for years to come. At least until Avengers 2 comes out.

[Saintsfan1992]

But, according to DC... it's the other way around.

Batman is actually the Gay one!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/26/batman-gay-grant-morrison-superhero-comics_n_1456878.html#s515732&title=Alicia_Keys_



Sorry but your post was just asking for it though.

**** DC

Batman always have bad woman.

If anything Superman
is a homo

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Batman >>> entire Avengers cast

[Timmy D for MVP]

I doubt it. From my perspective the Avengers was the most hyped movie coming into this year.

Re-watchability is another issue. For me I've seen TDK about 5 times. I will likely have seen the Avengers 3 times before it even exits theaters. It's just different.

Finally I just have a feeling that this movie is going to be a dissapointment. Not that it'll be bad, but that it won't match TDK and it'll settle into a "well that was pretty good" zone.

I've said this before, Batman is largely a product of his rouges gallery. I'm not sure Bane is going to be able to carry this one. Ledger made TDK, it would take one hell of a performance to carry that into DKR.

[niko]

From what i've seen of Bane i'm not hopeful of this one. Hope i am wrong.

[DonDadda59]

I doubt it. From my perspective the Avengers was the most hyped movie coming into this year.

Re-watchability is another issue. For me I've seen TDK about 5 times. I will likely have seen the Avengers 3 times before it even exits theaters. It's just different.

Finally I just have a feeling that this movie is going to be a dissapointment. Not that it'll be bad, but that it won't match TDK and it'll settle into a "well that was pretty good" zone.

I've said this before, Batman is largely a product of his rouges gallery. I'm not sure Bane is going to be able to carry this one. Ledger made TDK, it would take one hell of a performance to carry that into DKR.

Bane is one of, if not the, most formidable foe in Batman's rogues gallery. I mean he broke the legends back, even though he caught him slippin. Don't let Schumacher's campy Bane or other cartoon incarnations of the character taint your judgment, Bane is just as mentally imposing as he is physically. Plus, think back to when Ledger was first announced as the Joker- everyone was crying and whining about how they f*cked up by casting the gay cowboy from brokeback as Batman's archnemesis.

Nolan has yet to disappoint and Gary Oldman is on record that he thinks Rises will eclipse TDK because the story is that epic.

[sunsfan1357]

Bane is one of, if not the, most formidable foe in Batman's rogues gallery. I mean he broke the legends back, even though he caught him slippin. Don't let Schumacher's campy Bane or other cartoon incarnations of the character taint your judgment, Bane is just as mentally imposing as he is physically. Plus, think back to when Ledger was first announced as the Joker- everyone was crying and whining about how they f*cked up by casting the gay cowboy from brokeback as Batman's archnemesis.

Nolan has yet to disappoint and Gary Oldman is on record that he thinks Rises will eclipse TDK because the story is that epic.
If we're just talking what gets people to the box office, I don't think Bane is going to do it. I've had to explain to loads of people about who Bane is. Maybe its just where I live, but I don't believe the general public has a good idea of how formidable a foe he really is.

[Alamo]

I doubt it. From my perspective the Avengers was the most hyped movie coming into this year.

Re-watchability is another issue. For me I've seen TDK about 5 times. I will likely have seen the Avengers 3 times before it even exits theaters. It's just different.

Finally I just have a feeling that this movie is going to be a dissapointment. Not that it'll be bad, but that it won't match TDK and it'll settle into a "well that was pretty good" zone.

I've said this before, Batman is largely a product of his rouges gallery. I'm not sure Bane is going to be able to carry this one. Ledger made TDK, it would take one hell of a performance to carry that into DKR.


You saw the TDK 5 times in theaters? I watched it one time on blu ray and that was enough for me :lol

[DonDadda59]

If we're just talking what gets people to the box office, I don't think Bane is going to do it. I've had to explain to loads of people about who Bane is. Maybe its just where I live, but I don't believe the general public has a good idea of how formidable a foe he really is.

I could care less what this does at the box office, has no bearing on quality. All I know is if Nolan's Bane is anything like the comic book version ('Revenge of Bane' and 'Knightfall') than he's going to be a legendary movie foe, and we still don't know what role Ras Al Ghul will play (I know they will at least have a younger version of him, although I've seen some reports that Liam Neeson has a cameo). The general public is ignorant about a lot of things, shouldn't be surprising that they would be about a comic book character. But once the reviews come out, we'll see what critics think of Bane and the movie as a whole.

I remember that people had the same questions about Ledger paying the Joker until Kevin Smith came out with a review calling TDK 'the Godfather 2 of comic book movies' then they hype machine took over from there.

[sunsfan1357]

I could care less what this does at the box office, has no bearing on quality. All I know is if Nolan's Bane is anything like the comic book version ('Revenge of Bane' and 'Knightfall') than he's going to be a legendary movie foe, and we still don't know what role Ras Al Ghul will play (I know they will at least have a younger version of him, although I've seen some reports that Liam Neeson has a cameo). The general public is ignorant about a lot of things, shouldn't be surprising that they would be about a comic book character. But once the reviews come out, we'll see what critics think of Bane and the movie as a whole.

I remember that people had the same questions about Ledger paying the Joker until Kevin Smith came out with a review calling TDK 'the Godfather 2 of comic book movies' then they hype machine took over from there.
That's the point of this thread though :confusedshrug:

[DonDadda59]

That's the point of this thread though :confusedshrug:

No one here will see a dime of any box office revenue whether it does $20 or $200 million in its first weekend. Don't see why that should matter to anyone here. What affects us is our viewing experience.

[sunsfan1357]

No one here will see a dime of any box office revenue whether it does $20 or $200 million in its first weekend. Don't see why that should matter to anyone here. What affects us is our viewing experience.
I agree. I think people just want to be in a competition over which movie they think is better. People in the Avengers thread are saying its the best superhero movie ever, TDK fans are saying the opposite so this is where they're going to decide for good I guess.

[fos]

Maybe. Why doesn't a smart Hollywood producer come up with a superhero movie called The Dark Night Rises and try and cash in?

[Upgrayedd]

I think so. Look at the success of the first two.

[IGOTGAME]

No one here will see a dime of any box office revenue whether it does $20 or $200 million in its first weekend. Don't see why that should matter to anyone here. What affects us is our viewing experience.

some people like to predict outcomes of future events.

[L8k3r5]

Without a doubt yes

[Kensta]

No.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

No, the movie is geared towards adults.

[Lebron23]

No

[flipogb]

Maybe Ann Hathaway can OD or something.
or grab a video cam in the bedroom

[bada bing]

it will not set the BO record but it will definitely be a better movie. I have no doubt about that. The DKR will not be 3D based and does not target audiences of all ages.

[flipogb]

it will not set the BO record but it will definitely be a better movie. I have no doubt about that. The DKR will not be 3D based and does not target audiences of all ages.
Avengers wasn't shot in 3d

[Myth]

I don't expect Dark Knight Rises to make more money, but I expect to like it more (And I loved Avengers).

[DeuceWallaces]

I could care less what this does at the box office, has no bearing on quality. All I know is if Nolan's Bane is anything like the comic book version ('Revenge of Bane' and 'Knightfall') than he's going to be a legendary movie foe, and we still don't know what role Ras Al Ghul will play (I know they will at least have a younger version of him, although I've seen some reports that Liam Neeson has a cameo). The general public is ignorant about a lot of things, shouldn't be surprising that they would be about a comic book character. But once the reviews come out, we'll see what critics think of Bane and the movie as a whole.

I remember that people had the same questions about Ledger paying the Joker until Kevin Smith came out with a review calling TDK 'the Godfather 2 of comic book movies' then they hype machine took over from there.

:oldlol:

[EnoughSaid]

Nope. I heard people going like WTF in the movie theater after the Dark Knight Rises trailer. People just don't like those types of movies. I don't know man.

[Timmy D for MVP]

Bane is one of, if not the, most formidable foe in Batman's rogues gallery. I mean he broke the legends back, even though he caught him slippin. Don't let Schumacher's campy Bane or other cartoon incarnations of the character taint your judgment, Bane is just as mentally imposing as he is physically. Plus, think back to when Ledger was first announced as the Joker- everyone was crying and whining about how they f*cked up by casting the gay cowboy from brokeback as Batman's archnemesis.

Nolan has yet to disappoint and Gary Oldman is on record that he thinks Rises will eclipse TDK because the story is that epic.

I'm not denying that Bane is formidable.

I'm saying he isn't as good a character as the Joker. And I doubt anyone surpasses Ledger's performance in this film. Those two things made TDK.

Well all of that and the Harvey Dent saga but that got kinda lame at the end too.

[Timmy D for MVP]

You saw the TDK 5 times in theaters? I watched it one time on blu ray and that was enough for me :lol

No I mean once in theaters. 4 times since.

[DonDadda59]

I'm not denying that Bane is formidable.

I'm saying he isn't as good a character as the Joker. And I doubt anyone surpasses Ledger's performance in this film. Those two things made TDK.

Well all of that and the Harvey Dent saga but that got kinda lame at the end too.

We haven't seen the movie or had any reviews out yet, a bit premature to say that. Everyone who was involved in the project who has spoken out about it is raving about the film, especially Gary Oldman:

"We're going out with a bang" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoDXiL-Dcbc)

"Epic story... it has to be to top TDK" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoxiVUltGes&feature=relmfu)

I've had my theory for how it ends for a while and if I'm right, a lot of minds will be blown. But I have patience, I'm sure Nolan and co. won't let us down :cheers:

[JustinJDW]

No, it won't. It probably won't even out do TDK at the box office.

But Dark Knight Rises will be better than both. Watch.

[blacknapalm]

best thing it has going for it is that it's a summer movie and tons of families will be off work/school.

DKR doesn't have the various cast that all types of people can latch onto one way or another. when it comes to the more hardcore comic books types, DKR is catered much more to that group with subject matter. so it will alienate some with the fact it is not as 'mainstream'.

it won't have the same heath ledger buzz behind it but i think after such strong movies to start the series, many will be just as excited. tough to call...i say it's at least close, but probably not

[mehyaM24]

We haven't seen the movie or had any reviews out yet, a bit premature to say that. Everyone who was involved in the project who has spoken out about it is raving about the film, especially Gary Oldman:

"We're going out with a bang" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoDXiL-Dcbc)

"Epic story... it has to be to top TDK" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoxiVUltGes&feature=relmfu)

I've had my theory for how it ends for a while and if I'm right, a lot of minds will be blown. But I have patience, I'm sure Nolan and co. won't let us down :cheers:

how do you think this ends?

[bada bing]

We haven't seen the movie or had any reviews out yet, a bit premature to say that. Everyone who was involved in the project who has spoken out about it is raving about the film, especially Gary Oldman:

"We're going out with a bang" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoDXiL-Dcbc)

"Epic story... it has to be to top TDK" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoxiVUltGes&feature=relmfu)

I've had my theory for how it ends for a while and if I'm right, a lot of minds will be blown. But I have patience, I'm sure Nolan and co. won't let us down :cheers:

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[KevinNYC]

I think Batman and The Dark Knight have much greater name recognition with the general public, due to decades of Batman Movies and the success of The Dark Knight on video.

I worked in a comic book store in college and I had trouble remembering who was in The Avengers, the first time I heard about the movie.

[rezznor]

Prometheus will be better then both :pimp:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Bump.

I'd like to hear DonDadda's theory for TDKR's conclusion. :cheers:

[Myth]

Prometheus will be better then both :pimp:

Yep, but not in the box office.

Avengers brings in Hulk fans, Iron Man fans, Thor fans, and Captain America fans. If you are a fan of any one of those, you will go see Avengers. Dark Knight Rises pretty much only brings in Batman fans (and Nolan fans). Batman probably has more fans than any one of those other superheroes, but not collectively, and that is the main reason why it won't bring in as much money (lack of 3D also hurts box office wise)

[Story Up]

Avengers was no where near as good as the DK, who cares about box office? Avengers I believe is for more age groups so therefore naturally more people can see it.

It was a slightly better version then the transformers, not as polished as the DK was. I am hyped as shot for the "return".

[DetroitPiston]

Doubt it and I'm a huge Batman fan. Agree that Bane as a villain won't have the same appeal, unless it's the Bane from the Knightfall saga.

Marvel's been a lot better at marketing their stuff than DC has, too.

[Jordan-esque]

Bump.

I'd like to hear DonDadda's theory for TDKR's conclusion. :cheers:
You really want spoilers?

From going through a lot of Nolan/Batman sites and from all the facts and inside info gathered this is likely the ending (again it's speculation but it's as close as how it may really end based on all the facts they gathered).


Batman supposedly perishes during his fight (Bane is either arrested or likely gets killed accidentally or by his own stupidness - how Batman's villains normally kick the bucket). But of course the truth is, Batman never really dies, instead he will make it look like he did (the same way "Bourne Ultimatum" ends with people believing Jason Bourne is dead, but isn't).

From there, John Blake takes up Batman's place as Gotham's new white knight - something Batman wanted from TDK with Harvey Dent. Film ends with Bruce Wayne basically retiring, and Gotham having a new protector no longer needing Batman.

Oh yeah Bane breaks Batman's leg, not his back.

Again, that's all their speculation based on what they've gathered.

[Myth]

Doubt it and I'm a huge Batman fan. Agree that Bane as a villain won't have the same appeal, unless it's the Bane from the Knightfall saga.



Even Bane from Knightfall isn't enough. Hardcore Batman fans are going whether it is Joker, Bane, or Ventriloquist. The issue is that casual fans know who Joker is but have no idea who Bane is.

[DonDadda59]

Bump.

I'd like to hear DonDadda's theory for TDKR's conclusion. :cheers:

POSSIBLE SPOILERS (Just my personal theory, no insider info whatsoever...) (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=235324) :cheers:

(More possible spoiler) *Also add the part of the latest trailer where Catwoman says something along the lines of 'You don't owe these people, you've given them everything', Batman responds 'not everything... not yet' :D

[imdaman99]

i saw the dark knight movie in theaters about 4 times... just saw avengers tonight and will prob see it again at least once more. that being said, i will likely watch the dark knight returns twice in theaters and i dont see it breaking the last batman movies opening weekend, but its not as if 150 mill opening weekend is bad or anything :confusedshrug:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

POSSIBLE SPOILERS (Just my personal theory, no insider info whatsoever...) (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=235324) :cheers:

(More possible spoiler) *Also add the part of the latest trailer where Catwoman says something along the lines of 'You don't owe these people, you've given them everything', Batman responds 'not everything... not yet' :D

Good stuff my dude. Verrrrry interesting. Have you seen the latest spoiler/speculation vids on Youtube? A lot of what you're saying is being said in them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04spBKS05fY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVUZHGhFr30

One thing we do know is that Bruce is gonna be imprisoned/look weak for much of the movie - this sets up for an epic change of course........and ending.

[cteach111]

It's so strange to me that so many people saw the Dark Knight for the Joker. I saw it cause I thought the first one was damn good :confusedshrug:

[DeuceWallaces]

We haven't seen the movie or had any reviews out yet, a bit premature to say that. Everyone who was involved in the project who has spoken out about it is raving about the film, especially Gary Oldman:

"We're going out with a bang" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoDXiL-Dcbc)

"Epic story... it has to be to top TDK" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoxiVUltGes&feature=relmfu)

I've had my theory for how it ends for a while and if I'm right, a lot of minds will be blown. But I have patience, I'm sure Nolan and co. won't let us down :cheers:

Couldn't even touch Avengers with a 10' pole.

[DonDadda59]

Couldn't even touch Avengers with a 10' pole.

Rises had its issues, but much better than the Avengers. That was an average movie at best, Transformers with cheeseball superheros. Thor(the movie)>Avengers.

[DeuceWallaces]

Lol. It's your story you can tell it anyway you want. Avengers killed GKR and it's one of, if not the, greatest action movie of all time. DKR is an afterthought compared to Avengers.

[Lakers Legend#32]

TDKR owns the Avengers.
There was never any sense of real danger or threat in the Avengers. You knew nothing bad was gonna happen to them, the rest of the movie was just going through the motions.
Rises on the other hand, had many several scenes where it looked like not only Batman would meet his demise, but Gotham as well.

[DeuceWallaces]

TDKR owns the Avengers.
There was never any sense of real danger or threat in the Avengers. You knew nothing bad was gonna happen to them, the rest of the movie was just going through the motions.
Rises on the other hand, had many several scenes where it looked like not only Batman would meet his demise, but Gotham as well.

You could say the same thing about the first two Batman movies. No threat. Only massive pre-filming speculation on the death of Batman in the final part of the trilogy led to any sense of danger for the protagonist.

[ZeN]

Neither one does what the other one does.. These films are polar opposites and are proficient at what they intended.. Seems trivial to try to anoint one as superior when they are such polar opposites.

[DonDadda59]

Lol. It's your story you can tell it anyway you want. Avengers killed GKR and it's one of, if not the, greatest action movie of all time. DKR is an afterthought compared to Avengers.

Nah son :oldlol:

It was no better than your average Michael Bay film. Lots of explosions, maybe some aliens, corny one liners, predictable. The only reason people like you thought it was anything special is because it was hyped up since the first Iron Man movie and Sam Jackson making a cameo at the end.

[NuggetsFan]

I know I'm in the minority but it blows my mind how much people like these comic book movies. I get their popular and fun to watch but they get insane ratings\reviews and somebody just throws out the Avengers could be the best action movie of all time, that to me is wild. Iron Man getting like an 8.0 on IMDB and people trying to call Dark Night one of the GOAT movies just doesn't make sense to me.

Guess it's all subjective and everybody has an opinion and there's different types of movies so not trying to say those movies suck or anything, actually thought the Dark Night was really well done. Seeing it ranked 8th of All-Time on a site like IMDB makes me think I'm crazy tho :oldlol:

[ZeN]

Maybe Ann Hathaway can OD or something.
:biggums:

[red1]

Avengers had the potential to flop on multiple levels but instead, we got a movie that was balanced and fun.

If anything tdkr was corny what with that whole scene where a prepubescent little girl is able to complete a longjump that grown men have been failing at for years. Smh

[no pun intended]

The Avengers appealed to a wider range of audience, especially younger kids. Plus, it sold 3D tickets, which are more expensive.

[red1]

I know I'm in the minority but it blows my mind how much people like these comic book movies. I get their popular and fun to watch but they get insane ratings\reviews and somebody just throws out the Avengers could be the best action movie of all time, that to me is wild. Iron Man getting like an 8.0 on IMDB and people trying to call Dark Night one of the GOAT movies just doesn't make sense to me.

Guess it's all subjective and everybody has an opinion and there's different types of movies so not trying to say those movies suck or anything, actually thought the Dark Night was really well done. Seeing it ranked 8th of All-Time on a site like IMDB makes me think I'm crazy tho :oldlol:
It's nostalgia homie, amazing to see these childhood fantasies brought to life. Not to mention that these recent comicbook movies have been high quality productions that stand on their own as action movies.

[brantonli]

I know I'm in the minority but it blows my mind how much people like these comic book movies. I get their popular and fun to watch but they get insane ratings\reviews and somebody just throws out the Avengers could be the best action movie of all time, that to me is wild. Iron Man getting like an 8.0 on IMDB and people trying to call Dark Night one of the GOAT movies just doesn't make sense to me.

Guess it's all subjective and everybody has an opinion and there's different types of movies so not trying to say those movies suck or anything, actually thought the Dark Night was really well done. Seeing it ranked 8th of All-Time on a site like IMDB makes me think I'm crazy tho :oldlol:

It's not really like that. Internationally, you have a LOT of people who have never ever read the comics, they go to watch Batman or Avengers because it's a good film. The comic book aspects comes very little in it.

[NuggetsFan]

It's nostalgia homie, amazing to see these childhood fantasies brought to life. Not to mention that these recent comicbook movies have been high quality productions that stand on their own as action movies.

I agree. They are really well done, well acted etc. Nolan killed it with the Batman series. I guess I just don't see anything more than a fun well done movie, where as alot of people think they are amazing. I just don't see the whole one of the best movies of all time, but like I said it's subjective so whatever.

[Meticode]

I prefer The Dark Knight Rises over The Avengers. I liked The Avengers, but I felt personally it got better reviews than what I saw when I watched it.

[Timmy D for MVP]

I agree. They are really well done, well acted etc. Nolan killed it with the Batman series. I guess I just don't see anything more than a fun well done movie, where as alot of people think they are amazing. I just don't see the whole one of the best movies of all time, but like I said it's subjective so whatever.

They are great movies based on beloved stories that are modern versions of mythology.

[BEAST Griffin]

I ****ing hated the conversations in Avengers. Cheesy and dull. And the movie destroyed my sense of them being superheroes that's how stupid they seemed to act....more worried about elementary school issues at times than the real task...

Batman Begins > Avengers
The Dark Knight > Avengers
Dark Knight Rises > Avengers
Green Lantern > Avengers
Thor > Avengers
Captain America > Avengers
Ironman > Avengers
Ironman 2 > Avengers
etc. etc. etc.

One of the worst modern comic adaptions I've seen if not the worst.

[NotYetGreat]

I ****ing hated the conversations in Avengers. Cheesy and dull. And the movie destroyed my sense of them being superheroes that's how stupid they seemed to act....more worried about elementary school issues at times than the real task...

Batman Begins > Avengers
The Dark Knight > Avengers
Dark Knight Rises > Avengers
Green Lantern > Avengers
Thor > Avengers
Captain America > Avengers
Ironman > Avengers
Ironman 2 > Avengers
etc. etc. etc.

One of the worst modern comic adaptions I've seen if not the worst.

:biggums:

[oh the horror]

I ****ing hated the conversations in Avengers. Cheesy and dull. And the movie destroyed my sense of them being superheroes that's how stupid they seemed to act....more worried about elementary school issues at times than the real task...

Batman Begins > Avengers
The Dark Knight > Avengers
Dark Knight Rises > Avengers
Green Lantern > Avengers
Thor > Avengers
Captain America > Avengers
Ironman > Avengers
Ironman 2 > Avengers
etc. etc. etc.

One of the worst modern comic adaptions I've seen if not the worst.


If you honestly believe its the "worst" adaptation then you need your head checked


Green Lantern was beyond bad. Lay off the drugs dude.

[B-Easy8]

I ****ing hated the conversations in Avengers. Cheesy and dull. And the movie destroyed my sense of them being superheroes that's how stupid they seemed to act....more worried about elementary school issues at times than the real task...

Batman Begins > Avengers
The Dark Knight > Avengers
Dark Knight Rises > Avengers
Green Lantern > Avengers
Thor > Avengers
Captain America > Avengers
Ironman > Avengers
Ironman 2 > Avengers
etc. etc. etc.

One of the worst modern comic adaptions I've seen if not the worst.

:biggums:

[B-Easy8]

:biggums:

:roll: :roll:

I read his post and was so shocked that I had to Biggums it straight away. After replying I look one post down and you had beaten me to it.

[NotYetGreat]

:roll: :roll:

I read his post and was so shocked that I had to Biggums it straight away. After replying I look one post down and you had beaten me to it.

Same here, man. Same here. I mean, sure, it was entertaining (plus Blake Lively looked great in it :hammerhead: ) but if you're talking about cheesiness, no doubt, GL was way more hackneyed than Avengers.

[The Ownage]

I ****ing hated the conversations in Avengers. Cheesy and dull. And the movie destroyed my sense of them being superheroes that's how stupid they seemed to act....more worried about elementary school issues at times than the real task...

Batman Begins > Avengers
The Dark Knight > Avengers
Dark Knight Rises > Avengers
Green Lantern > Avengers
Thor > Avengers
Captain America > Avengers
Ironman > Avengers
Ironman 2 > Avengers
etc. etc. etc.

One of the worst modern comic adaptions I've seen if not the worst.
http://i.imgur.com/OdLFM.gif

[BEAST Griffin]

That's just how little I think of Avengers.

[DeuceWallaces]

Nah son :oldlol:

It was no better than your average Michael Bay film. Lots of explosions, maybe some aliens, corny one liners, predictable. The only reason people like you thought it was anything special is because it was hyped up since the first Iron Man movie and Sam Jackson making a cameo at the end.

Says the guy with the butt-hurt-itis and a Bane avy.

[BEAST Griffin]

but but... green lantern was.... really bad :(

Not bad enough not to be entertaining. I waited for Avengers to finally start and the credits started rolling before it ever did.

It was like eating wrinkly dried up french fries that look like stretched nipples.

[DonDadda59]

Says the guy with the butt-hurt-itis and a Bane avy.

http://r12.imgfast.net/users/1217/23/58/92/smiles/4293613521.gif

[DeuceWallaces]

http://r12.imgfast.net/users/1217/23/58/92/smiles/4293613521.gif

Smiley's will definitely get your point across.

Keep up the great work.

[DonDadda59]

Smiley's will definitely get your point across.

Keep up the great work.

It was the best rebuttal I could think of to the brilliant 'butt-hurt-itis' argument you crafted.