Kobe "centric" offense is destroying the Lakers

[gengiskhan]

Kobe is NOT Michael Jordan
Kobe is NOT Larry Bird
Kobe is NOT Magic Johnson
Kobe is NOT Charles Barkley

Fact 1: When Kobe is gunning for 40+ pt game in POs, the whole offense stagnates & rest of the 4 starters become spectators looking for Kobe shoot 27 feet 3 pters.

Fact 2: Kobe's 30+ pt games never come within the flow of the offense. That means if Kobe scores 43 pts, Bynum has 8 FGAs.

Fact 3: Denver is extremely poor defensively in a defeseless era to begin with. If before series started some one said Kobe will have 31.5 ppg ave in 1st round, I would say LA wins in 5 games or even sweep. This garbage Nuggets team which plays 1-on-1 against Kobe under legendary coach George Karl has taken a seasoned veteran team with all-star big men to game 6.

Fact 4: Kobe'tards say LA lack PG. My pt to these self obsessed morons is. A seasoned 33 yrs old vet still cannot play leader & "play maker" with most skilled big men in his team & pick up easy assists. Why must he shoot shoot shoot & wait for Bynum or Gasol to tip in his misses?

Fact 5: Even when MJ played outside the flow of the offense, his 50+ pt PO game resulted in 2-3 pts thriller that bulls barely escaped winning. Kobe's inefficiency is POs is considerably lower than MJs, you will always see a 3 pts margin defeat against weakest opponent despite 43 pts game.

[RazorBaLade]

Jeff please ban him.

[Mr. Jabbar]

Jeff please ban him.

This. Pretty please.

[Batz]

Ban.

[Miserio]

He's right, but he's too annoying and repetitive.

[gengiskhan]

Jeff please ban him.

If I were you. I'll read all the 5 facts one more time & self ban myself till LA escapes out of Round 1 if that is even possible.

[BlueandGold]

The way he posts reminds me a lot of bwink23, is gengiskhan one of his other accounts or no?

[gengiskhan]

He's right, but he's too annoying and repetitive.

I maybe repetitive no doubt. I'm calling it as I'm seeing it.

Can Kobe go into Halftime with 4 pts & 9 assists. & turn it on in 2nd half with 10 pts in each quarter & give you solid 25pts/11 assists

LA easily win by 8 pts margin against defenseless nuggets.

this is whats needed. Kobe to "play make" up front & not depend on sessions or blake.

Can he force Bynum-Gasol to become 1a/1b option in 1st half.

NEVER!!! That would never be a "hero" ball.

[Godzuki]

if anything this place needs more posters critical of kobe instead of so many riding his nuts while blaming everyone else.

mods need to stop banning based on homer lynch mobs asking them to :facepalm

[RazorBaLade]

If I were you. I'll read all the 5 facts one more time & self ban myself till LA escapes out of Round 1 if that is even possible.

If I were you I'd kill myself.

[matts290]

I maybe repetitive no doubt. I'm calling it as I'm seeing it.

Can Kobe go into Halftime with 4 pts & 9 assists. & turn it on in 2nd half with 10 pts in each quarter & give you solid 25pts/11 assists

LA easily win by 8 pts margin against defenseless nuggets.

this is whats needed. Kobe to "play make" up front & not depend on sessions or blake.

Can he force Bynum-Gasol to become 1a/1b option in 1st half.

NEVER!!! That would never be a "hero" ball.

No he can't because 4 +10+10 doesn't equal 25. :hammerhead:

[sagr32]

Even if it is killing the offense Why are you so concerned about it when you are not even a Lakers fan?

[Batz]

if anything this place needs more posters critical of kobe instead of so many riding his nuts while blaming everyone else.

mods need to stop banning based on homer lynch mobs asking them to :facepalm
No no, he's actually an awful poster.

[Calabis]

Kobe is NOT Michael Jordan
Kobe is NOT Larry Bird
Kobe is NOT Magic Johnson
Kobe is NOT Charles Barkley

Fact 1: When Kobe is gunning for 40+ pt game in POs, the whole offense stagnates & rest of the 4 starters become spectators looking for Kobe shoot 27 feet 3 pters.

Fact 2: Kobe's 30+ pt games never come within the flow of the offense. That means if Kobe scores 43 pts, Bynum has 8 FGAs.

Fact 3: Denver is extremely poor defensively in a defeseless era to begin with. If before series started some one said Kobe will have 31.5 ppg ave in 1st round, I would say LA wins in 5 games or even sweep. This garbage Nuggets team which plays 1-on-1 against Kobe under legendary coach George Karl has taken a seasoned veteran team with all-star big men to game 6.

Fact 4: Kobe'tards say LA lack PG. My pt to these self obsessed morons is. A seasoned 33 yrs old vet still cannot play leader & "play maker" with most skilled big men in his team & pick up easy assists. Why must he shoot shoot shoot & wait for Bynum or Gasol to tip in his misses?

Fact 5: Even when MJ played outside the flow of the offense, his 50+ pt PO game resulted in 2-3 pts thriller that bulls barely escaped winning. Kobe's inefficiency is POs is considerably lower than MJs, you will always see a 3 pts margin defeat against weakest opponent despite 43 pts game.

Suns series two seasons ago he played his best playoff Basketball imo. Was a beautiful series and he did just that, within the realm of the offense.

But I don't blame you for going at his "merry" men, who flood this board with Kobe nonsense daily

[gengiskhan]

if anything this place needs more posters critical of kobe instead of so many riding his nuts while blaming everyone else.

mods need to stop banning based on homer lynch mobs asking them to :facepalm

we all know Mike Brown is hired to please Kobe. easy to criticise.

we all know Bynum's antics & theatricals is easy to criticise.

we all know Gasol's softness is easy to criticise.

why cannot Kobe'a lack of leadership & playmaking ability be criticized. He can neither put the game away with bulk scoring nor bring the team back with 2-3 pts lead.

Bring team witnin 3 pts of trailing isnt the answer & expect big men to take over since they havn't touched the ball for good 5 mins.

Kobe's leadership & being the cornerstone of a franchise offensively has never been fully criticize because of the 5 rings.

I dont mind if LA is playing game 6 in first round against Defending champs Mavs.

But Nuggets, they should've been swept long time ago. they just suck. :biggums:

[AirTupac]

Statistics:

-- Kobe has scored 40+ points in 110 regular season games & 11 playoff games for a combined 121 games.

-- Lakers have a combined 87-34 winning record for 72% win rate both regular season and playoffs.

-- When Kobe scores 40+ points going 1875/3343 he is currently making them at a combined .515 FG% rate.

Regular Season:

-- When Kobe scores 40+ Lakers in those games have a 77-33 winning regular season record good for a 70% win rate.

-- An 82-game season would equate that as a 57-25 regular season record.

-- Kobe has made 1703/3328 shots good for a .512 FG% for the season.

Playoffs:

-- When Kobe scores 40+ Lakers in those games have an 10-1 winning playoff record good for 91% win rate in the playoffs.

-- Kobe has made 172/315 shots good for a .546 FG% in the Playoffs.

Credit to Jordan-esque from a different forum

[G-train]

If I were you I'd kill myself.

You and others should be perma-banned for comments like this.

[G-Funk]

Ban

[RazorBaLade]

You and others should be perma-banned for comments like this.

Kill yourself too buddy.

[gengiskhan]

Statistics:

-- Kobe has scored 40+ points in 110 regular season games & 11 playoff games for a combined 121 games.

-- Lakers have a combined 87-34 winning record for 72% win rate both regular season and playoffs.

-- When Kobe scores 40+ points going 1875/3343 he is currently making them at a combined .515 FG% rate.

Regular Season:

-- When Kobe scores 40+ Lakers in those games have a 77-33 winning regular season record good for a 70% win rate.

-- An 82-game season would equate that as a 57-25 regular season record.

-- Kobe has made 1703/3328 shots good for a .512 FG% for the season.

Playoffs:

-- When Kobe scores 40+ Lakers in those games have an 10-1 winning playoff record good for 91% win rate in the playoffs.

-- Kobe has made 172/315 shots good for a .546 FG% in the Playoffs.

Credit to Jordan-esque from a different forum

Oh please!!! save this deceiving list for some other thread.

we all know Kobe played tons of POs when Lakers were Shaq's team.

Shaq's triple teaming in POs on every play resulted in some really overblown Kobe statistics & dominating series by kobe as "left wide open" scorer.

There is still Shaq in the combo of Gasol-Bynum that Kobe can benefit from today's Lakers if he allows the combo to become legit offensive threat.

[SwayDizzle]

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm so tiring....

[G-train]

Kill yourself too buddy.

A terribly evil comment. You obviously aren't aware of the seriousness of such an event. Unfortunately, I am in recent times.
Enjoy your ban.

[krazymofo]

op needs to admit he's a Kobe fan in denial.

[RazorBaLade]

A terribly evil comment. You obviously aren't aware of the seriousness of such an event. Unfortunately, I am in recent times.
Enjoy your ban.

To be serious for a moment,

Anyone who is in such a dark place that a comment over the internet by someone they've never seen would send them over the edge is ultimately heading down the same path no matter what. Unless you propose telling someone loves you bro, you dont know what they'd miss to every single person you ever encounter then I think telling someone to kill themselves over the internet will most likely be taken as, at the very most, a mere suggestion and not an evil statement.

To be less serious, honestly, kill yourself for defending OP.

[L8k3r5]

Kobe is NOT Michael Jordan
Kobe is NOT Larry Bird
Kobe is NOT Magic Johnson
Kobe is NOT Charles Barkley

Fact 1: When Kobe is gunning for 40+ pt game in POs, the whole offense stagnates & rest of the 4 starters become spectators looking for Kobe shoot 27 feet 3 pters.

Fact 2: Kobe's 30+ pt games never come within the flow of the offense. That means if Kobe scores 43 pts, Bynum has 8 FGAs.

Fact 3: Denver is extremely poor defensively in a defeseless era to begin with. If before series started some one said Kobe will have 31.5 ppg ave in 1st round, I would say LA wins in 5 games or even sweep. This garbage Nuggets team which plays 1-on-1 against Kobe under legendary coach George Karl has taken a seasoned veteran team with all-star big men to game 6.

Fact 4: Kobe'tards say LA lack PG. My pt to these self obsessed morons is. A seasoned 33 yrs old vet still cannot play leader & "play maker" with most skilled big men in his team & pick up easy assists. Why must he shoot shoot shoot & wait for Bynum or Gasol to tip in his misses?

Fact 5: Even when MJ played outside the flow of the offense, his 50+ pt PO game resulted in 2-3 pts thriller that bulls barely escaped winning. Kobe's inefficiency is POs is considerably lower than MJs, you will always see a 3 pts margin defeat against weakest opponent despite 43 pts game.
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[G-train]

To be serious for a moment,

Anyone who is in such a dark place that a comment over the internet by someone they've never seen would send them over the edge is ultimately heading down the same path no matter what. Unless you propose telling someone loves you bro, you dont know what they'd miss to every single person you ever encounter then I think telling someone to kill themselves over the internet will most likely be taken as, at the very most, a mere suggestion and not an evil statement.

To be less serious, honestly, kill yourself for defending OP.

You are a fool.

[RazorBaLade]

You are a fool.

Your ass is in pain.

[longtime lurker]

I wonder if the OP is gonna disappear like the little cockroach that he is once the Lakers beat Denver. I'd love to see the Lakers win a championship I bet this guys head would explode :lol

[RaininTwos]

Kobe is NOT Michael Jordan
Kobe is NOT Larry Bird
Kobe is NOT Magic Johnson
Kobe is NOT Charles Barkley

What an astute observation:coleman:

[Calabis]

I wonder if the OP is gonna disappear like the little cockroach that he is once the Lakers beat Denver. I'd love to see the Lakers win a championship I bet this guys head would explode :lol

Why is that some major accomplishment?

[SwayDizzle]

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:lol :lol :lol :lol This cracked me up

[longtime lurker]

Why is that some major accomplishment?

No it's not, but posts like this always come up when the Lakers lose a game. And apparently a Kobecentric offense is killing the Lakers(this is bs) yet if they win I'm sure the OP will either STFU or come up with a thousand excuses.

[DMAVS41]

No it's not, but posts like this always come up when the Lakers lose a game. And apparently a Kobecentric offense is killing the Lakers(this is bs) yet if they win I'm sure the OP will either STFU or come up with a thousand excuses.

Of course that is an overstatement....

But does anyone here think that taking 27 shots on 42.9% from the field is ideal?

[longtime lurker]

Of course that is an overstatement....

But does anyone here think that taking 27 shots on 42.9% from the field is ideal?

No one does but there is a root cause of the Lakers offense and it has less to do with Kobe's shot selection. I'd talk about it but the OP is an idiot and troll so why bother.

[G-train]

Your ass is in pain.

:facepalm

[stallionaire]

OP is right.

[DMAVS41]

No one does but there is a root cause of the Lakers offense and it has less to do with Kobe's shot selection. I'd talk about it but the OP is an idiot and troll so why bother.

Well certainly. Its by no means all on Kobe or anything like that. Although I do think he could always do a better job attacking and creating...rather than just attacking pretty much solely to shoot.

He's a scorer through and through. Nothing wrong with that, but he's also quite easily the most selfish great player in the league. And so for me its really either make more shots...or pass more.

Takeing 27 a game at 42.9% might get it done against the Nuggets, but not against elite teams.

[G-Funk]

I wonder if the OP is gonna disappear like the little cockroach that he is once the Lakers beat Denver. I'd love to see the Lakers win a championship I bet this guys head would explode :lol
:oldlol:

[gengiskhan]

I wonder if the OP is gonna disappear like the little cockroach that he is once the Lakers beat Denver. I'd love to see the Lakers win a championship I bet this guys head would explode :lol

damb a$$

the only reason why this thread is created is a garbage trashy superstars less team called denver nuggets with pathetic defense have forced Lakers to play game 6.

We're not talking about Mavs as opponents where despite being the mere shadow of their past season, they still have Dirk & Kidd. Playing game 6 against them is always possible.

Faaking Denver Nuggets. :lol :lol

Lakers should have put them away by game 4 in all honesty. :lol
they're not even Knicks calibre of team defensively or talent wise. :lol

[Doctor Rivers]

damb a$$

lol

KOBE

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

the problem has been the same all season...the offense is going thru the bigs first, they don't do anything, and then the ball ends up in Kobe's hands with 4 seconds remaining and, thus, a chuck.

Gasol has been failing. plain and simple.

the OP is also a FAIL because he clearly doesn't know jack shit about what the Lakers have been doing.

[OldSchoolBBall]

No he can't because 4 +10+10 doesn't equal 25. :hammerhead:

I have to admit, this made me laugh my ass off. :oldlol:

[gengiskhan]

the problem has been the same all season...the offense is going thru the bigs first, they don't do anything, and then the ball ends up in Kobe's hands with 4 seconds remaining and, thus, a chuck.

Gasol has been failing. plain and simple.

the OP is also a FAIL because he clearly doesn't know jack shit about what the Lakers have been doing.

dude please!!!

Can Kobe trust Gasol in 1st quarter & establish his play as offensive force?

Can Kobe trust Bynum in 2nd quarter & establish his play as offensive force?

Can Kobe go in the locker room with 6 pts & 9 assists of Bynum-Gasol at the Half time (pretty easy to get against garbage opposition with all-star big men on your team)?

Can Kobe starts shotjocking not earlier than middle of 3rd Quarter?

Can Kobe trust himself of hitting 25 pts PO average with strictly distributing the ball in 1st half & not shotjocking?

There is only one answer.....

NO

[TheFan]

Lakers would work better if Kobe played a more team oriented style, similar to Allen/Pierce for the Celts, but its not entirely Kobe's fault... Its also the way Lakers are built...

Artest has to go... I think the reason he changed his name was to kill any trade discussion including his name...

Also, one of the two, Gasol or Bynum has to go, with both inside, there is little room for Kobe to work on the post.

They have terrible spacing for team that play half-court.

Perfect line up for LA...

C:Bynum
PF:Jump shooting, good rebounder PF, similar to Garnet.
SF: Young, Athletic fowards with great three point range, similar to Ariza(2009).
SG:Kobe
PG: big guards with three point range.

[Coffee Black]

Can't tell if OP thinks he is truly right....or doing it for attention.

[chazzy]

op's "awful" posts are destroying the board

[SlayerEnraged]

Maybe Kobe shoots that much cause every1 else sucks or isn't playing well? Bynum doesn't know how to handle doubles

[longtime lurker]

damb a$$

the only reason why this thread is created is a garbage trashy superstars less team called denver nuggets with pathetic defense have forced Lakers to play game 6.

We're not talking about Mavs as opponents where despite being the mere shadow of their past season, they still have Dirk & Kidd. Playing game 6 against them is always possible.

Faaking Denver Nuggets. :lol :lol

Lakers should have put them away by game 4 in all honesty. :lol
they're not even Knicks calibre of team defensively or talent wise. :lol

:lol The OP posts his heavily biased opinions as unsubstantiated FACTS and he expects posters not to clown this weak thread :roll:

[Dictator]

OP:lol JUST STOP.:coleman:

[ZaaaaaH]

we all know Mike Brown is hired to please Kobe. easy to criticise.

we all know Bynum's antics & theatricals is easy to criticise.

we all know Gasol's softness is easy to criticise.

why cannot Kobe'a lack of leadership & playmaking ability be criticized. He can neither put the game away with bulk scoring nor bring the team back with 2-3 pts lead.

Bring team witnin 3 pts of trailing isnt the answer & expect big men to take over since they havn't touched the ball for good 5 mins.

Kobe's leadership & being the cornerstone of a franchise offensively has never been fully criticize because of the 5 rings.

I dont mind if LA is playing game 6 in first round against Defending champs Mavs.

But Nuggets, they should've been swept long time ago. they just suck. :biggums:


This kid still around with his whack ass knowledge about the game.:facepalm

Denver is not a bad team retard its called match up something we do in sports.

Lakers would of ended Mavs in 5

Lakers are also weak against fastbreak/transition team which Denver is great at and even got better by adding mcgee.

This kid spends all his free time hating kobe. :oldlol: sad

[DMAVS41]

This kid still around with his whack ass knowledge about the game.:facepalm

Denver is not a bad team retard its called match up something we do in sports.

Lakers would of ended Mavs in 5

Lakers are also weak against fastbreak/transition team which Denver is great at and even got better by adding mcgee.

This kid spends all his free time hating kobe. :oldlol: sad

Maybe less sadly...:facepalm

[longtime lurker]

we all know Mike Brown is hired to please Kobe. easy to criticise.

we all know Bynum's antics & theatricals is easy to criticise.

we all know Gasol's softness is easy to criticise.

why cannot Kobe'a lack of leadership & playmaking ability be criticized. He can neither put the game away with bulk scoring nor bring the team back with 2-3 pts lead.

Bring team witnin 3 pts of trailing isnt the answer & expect big men to take over since they havn't touched the ball for good 5 mins.

Kobe's leadership & being the cornerstone of a franchise offensively has never been fully criticize because of the 5 rings.

I dont mind if LA is playing game 6 in first round against Defending champs Mavs.

But Nuggets, they should've been swept long time ago. they just suck. :biggums:

I just noticed another gem from this guy. Lakers hired Mike Brown to please Kobe even though they didn't even consult or tell Kobe about the hire? The unintentional comedy from this guy keeps on coming. :roll:

[gengiskhan]

I just noticed another gem from this guy. Lakers hired Mike Brown to please Kobe even though they didn't even consult or tell Kobe about the hire? The unintentional comedy from this guy keeps on coming. :roll:



Mike Brown's greatest statement in 2012 season:

"Kobe has to be considered for season MVP"

Here is kobe shooting 43% FG with shotjocking ballhogging on the road mostly responsible for Lakers' poor road record. Played only 60 games out of the possible 66 games. Yet, he is the MVP in mike brown's system.

LBJ was never promoted for MVP by coach Eric despite shooting 53% FG

Durant was never promoted for MVP by thunder coach.

Mike Brown is only interested in being Kobe's good book from the day 1 he got hired, hence kobe shotjocked to 24 FGA, something he can never do in Phil Jackson's triangle offense system.

[Dictator]

^^^:roll: :oldlol:

[The Iron Fist]

Well certainly. Its by no means all on Kobe or anything like that. Although I do think he could always do a better job attacking and creating...rather than just attacking pretty much solely to shoot.

He's a scorer through and through. Nothing wrong with that, but he's also quite easily the most selfish great player in the league. And so for me its really either make more shots...or pass more.

Takeing 27 a game at 42.9% might get it done against the Nuggets, but not against elite teams.
What credentials do you have that will allow a five time champion to listen to your advice? Ex player? Coach? GM? Owner? Couch potato with hours upon hours discussing a mans game you don't even like?

[N0Skillz]

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Learn The Definition

[LakersReign]

The way he posts reminds me a lot of bwink23, is gengiskhan one of his other accounts or no?


That should be obvious by now. The idiot says and does exactly the same things with his "sock puppet" accounts as he does with the bwink one. I just find it sad that he's so delusional, he thinks people on here can't read to realize it's basically the same person. But with a different account. Admin needs to ban this fool along with all his other accounts as well.

[DMAVS41]

What credentials do you have that will allow a five time champion to listen to your advice? Ex player? Coach? GM? Owner? Couch potato with hours upon hours discussing a mans game you don't even like?

What? What relevance does that have.

Does it matter the source? What credentials does a GM have to make all that absolutely idiotic decision they make? Or coaches for that matter.

I played in college and was an assistant coach in college. I used to be a high school coach.

But what would that matter? I'm simply giving my opinion. Attack the opinion...do not attack me. I'm nothing.

I like Kobe. Hate his fans.

Has it really gotten to the point where saying taking 27 shots on 43% from the field and 52% TS is not what you want...is somehow hating?

Hilarious. I didn't know I needed to post about my credentials. Something is either smart or dumb or in between on the merits of itself...not on who says it. Does that also need to be explained?

I could quote Phil Jackson on the importance of fg%....LOL

[N0Skillz]

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[LakersReign]

What? What relevance does that have.

Does it matter the source? What credentials does a GM have to make all that absolutely idiotic decision they make? Or coaches for that matter.

I played in college and was an assistant coach in college. I used to be a high school coach.

But what would that matter? I'm simply giving my opinion. Attack the opinion...do not attack me. I'm nothing.

I like Kobe. Hate his fans.

Has it really gotten to the point where saying taking 27 shots on 43% from the field and 52% TS is not what you want...is somehow hating?

Hilarious. I didn't know I needed to post about my credentials. Something is either smart or dumb or in between on the merits of itself...not on who says it. Does that also need to be explained?

I could quote Phil Jackson on the importance of fg%....LOL

The real reason why you can't and won't post anything other than "oh...well...I coached this place and supposedly played here and there" is cuz you can't since you're CLEARLY making all that up. Anybody who's really played or coached anywhere on the planet, wouldn't be ashamed to flat out say it, unless they're making it up. It's as pathetic as coming online claiming to be a neuro-surgeon. but when asked where you went to medical school, your response is, "oh...well I don't have to prove anything to you." Which means you're lying. Simple as that.

[DMAVS41]

The real reason why you can't and won't post anything other than "oh...well...I coached this place and supposedly played here and there" is cuz you can't since you're CLEARLY making all that up. Anybody who's really played or coached anywhere on the planet, wouldn't be ashamed to flat out say it, unless they're making it up. Simple as that.

Ok. Lets say I'm making it all up. What relevance would that have to my opinions.

Are you telling me that if I say something as a coach it means more than if I say something as someone that hasn't coached? That all of a sudden something idiotic is smart because a player/coach says it. Or that something smart is no longer intelligent because a non player/coach says it.

You need to go back to school or find a proper education. I feel sorry for you. I really do.

And I would lose all respect for any coach saying that they thought a player taking 27 shots at less than 43% from the field 52% TS is optimal. Nobody is going to say that given the current situation of the Lakers. Maybe if we are talking Iverson on some of those inept Sixers teams or something.

You act like this is Kobe specific. Dirk shot 44% from the field against the Thunder. Hardly optimal. If he had shot 50%....that series would still be going on right now.

Again. I feel sorry for you. Not only do you misunderstand the game so badly, but wherever you were educated has failed you miserably.

[LakersReign]

Ok. Lets say I'm making it all up. What relevance would that have to my opinions.

Are you telling me that if I say something as a coach it means more than if I say something as someone that hasn't coached? That all of a sudden something idiotic is smart because a player/coach says it. Or that something smart is no longer intelligent because a non player/coach says it.

You need to go back to school or find a proper education. I feel sorry for you. I really do.

You for real? I mean seriously...do you even read the crap you post? So...what you're saying is that even though you've never caoched or played professioanl sports. Your opinion is on par with those that have? Which explains why they're in the NBA and what not and you aren't....right?:facepalm

Seems like the clowns are in for the night. Let's all enjoy the show:roll:

[DMAVS41]

You for real? I mean seriously...do you even read the crap you post? So...what you're saying is that even though you've never caoched or played professioanl sports. Your opinion is on par with those that have?:facepalm

Seems like the clowns are in for the night. Let's all enjoy the show:roll:

So the Hawks GM that gave Joe Johnson a max contract knows more than me about that situation because he's the GM?

You can't be this stupid.

Michael Jordan knows more than me about evaluating talent? Bullshit. Just because you are a great player does not mean anything other than you were a great player.

MJ has been a disgrace since as a GM/Owner...etc. Does he know more than everyone else because he was so great? Please answer.

Sam Presti played D3 college ball. MJ is the greatest NBA player ever....arguably the greatest athlete ever.

Presti >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MJ as a GM...

[LakersReign]

So the Hawks GM that gave Joe Johnson a max contract knows more than me about that situation because he's the GM?

You can't be this stupid.

Michael Jordan knows more than me about evaluating talent? Bullshit. Just because you are a great player does not mean anything other than you were a great player.

MJ has been a disgrace since as a GM/Owner...etc. Does he know more than everyone else because he was so great? Please answer.


AND.....what they all have in common....is way more credibility than you, a CLEARLY delusional nobody on the internet. Who's opinion nobody cares about cuz you're a legend in your own mind. Then, he tries to call other people stupid.:facepalm

[DMAVS41]

AND.....what they all have in common....is way more credibility than you, a CLEARLY delusional nobody on the internet. Who's opinion nobody cares about cuz you're a legend in your own mind. Then, he tries to call other people stupid.:facepalm

You are calling me stupid. I am simply defending myself. I never said I am right about everything. I've been wrong about this stuff way too many times to even count.

But me saying something about inefficient high volume scoring just isn't controversial at all. Its really close to a fact.

I don't know how many people there are in the basketball world that think taking 27 shots on 42.9% from the field is good for a team trying to win the title.

And I must ask. What are your credentials? Why should we even allow you to post here?

[LakersReign]

You are calling me stupid. I am simply defending myself. I never said I am right about everything. I've been wrong about this stuff way too many times to even count.

But me saying something about inefficient high volume scoring just isn't controversial at all. Its really close to a fact.

I don't know how many people there are in the basketball world that think taking 27 shots on 42.9% from the field is good for a team trying to win the title.

And I must ask. What are your credentials? Why should we even allow you to post here?

Clown please. You being delusional and thinking you know more about basketball than people working in the NBA, is your problem not mine. Normal, thinking, rational people will never believe a word you say, if you can't back it up with something more than "uh....cuz I said so." Speaking from a position of authority you CLEARLY...DO NOT...have just makes you stupid, so continue talking about all these IMAGINARY credentials you supposedly have and can't prove they really exist. You're so willing to boast about them, but when asked to show them, you come up with all kinds of excuses. Which to normal, thinking rational people means you're OBVIOUSLY lying:facepalm

Oh and by the way, the biggest difference between me and you, I DON'T come on here acting like I'm the only person on the planet who knows anything about basketball the way you do.:no:

[DMAVS41]

Clown please. You being delusional and thinking you know more about basketball than people working in the NBA, is your problem not mine. Normal, thinking, rational people will never believe a word you say, if you can't back it up with something more than "uh....cuz I said so." Speaking from a position of authority you CLEARLY...DO NOT...have just makes you stupid, so continue talking about all these IMAGINARY credentials you supposedly have and can't prove they really exist. You're so willing to boast about them, but when asked to show them, you come up with all kinds of excuses. Which to normal, thinking rational people means you're OBVIOUSLY lying:facepalm

Oh and by the way, the biggest difference between me and you, I DON'T come on here acting like I'm the only person on the planet who knows anything about basketball the way you do.:no:

I have never acted nor said I am the only person that knows something about basketball. This forum is for people to talk about and debate basketball.

If you don't like something I say...attack what I say. When you choose to attack me instead, it means 1 of 2 things. The statement I made can't be attacked...or you are too stupid to form a post attacking my assertions. So you go on about how stupid I am and how I have now credibility.

And again. I'm essentially stating a fact.

Lets try this example. Phil Jackson comes on here. We know 100% for sure its Phil Jackson. He makes the following statement:

Kobe should never take more than 10 shots per game no matter what. In crunch time, he should always look to pass. He should only shoot when he must. That is the only way the Lakers can win.

Would you disagree with him? Keep in mind that this is arguably the greatest coach in NBA history. Would you consider that statement to be intelligent because it came from him? Would you consider that statement the same way if it came from me?

You do not judge an assertion based on who says it. Smart people say and do dumb shit all the time. Stupid people are more than capable of having great insight into certain things. The notions or assertions should always be judged on their own merits.

[The-Legend-24]

Op is a fakkit.

[LakersReign]

I have never acted nor said I am the only person that knows something about basketball. This forum is for people to talk about and debate basketball.

If you don't like something I say...attack what I say. When you choose to attack me instead, it means 1 of 2 things. The statement I made can't be attacked...or you are too stupid to form a post attacking my assertions. So you go on about how stupid I am and how I have now credibility.

And again. I'm essentially stating a fact.

Lets try this example. Phil Jackson comes on here. We know 100% for sure its Phil Jackson. He makes the following statement:

Kobe should never take more than 10 shots per game no matter what. In crunch time, he should always look to pass. He should only shoot when he must. That is the only way the Lakers can win.

Would you disagree with him? Keep in mind that this is arguably the greatest coach in NBA history. Would you consider that statement to be intelligent because it came from him? Would you consider that statement the same way if it came from me?

You do not judge an assertion based on who says it. Smart people say and do dumb shit all the time. Stupid people are more than capable of having great insight into certain things. The notions or assertions should always be judged on their own merits.


This from the same guy who just a few posts ago, says he hates on Kobe fans? But then says don't attack people, attack what they say. You don't like Kobe so what? Who the **** do you think you are to dictate to people who they should and shouldn't like in the NBA? Everybody has the power of choice and if you don't like that choice, too bad. But to sit there behind a computer on the internet thinking you can look down on people who don't agree with you simply tells me, you have some serious issues. The very act that you're trying to insinuate that people should ignore the opinions of CREDIBLE people in the sport. In favor of yours, when you claim you supposedly know more than they do, but can't prove it. simply tells us your real age and maturity level.

You're OBVIOUSLY some 13 - 17 year old no life outside of the internet stat geek, who's CLUELESS about how things in the real world work. Nobody with an ounce of common sense is just gonna believe what you say, simply cuz you said it. Believing you're some self appointed guru who supposedly knows more than everybody else. Yeah....you're supposedly some great basketball expert. But when asked to prove it you can't. You're CLEARLY delusional. GTFOH!!!!

Oh, and by the way, of Phil were to come on here, and we were 100% sure it was him. I'm pretty sure when asked to verify how he knows what he knows, he wouldn't hesitate to do so. Simply cuz people who know their sh*t, don't haul a** when asked to back it up. You on the other hand, being delusional as hell, want to try to compare yourself to people like Phil. But when asked to prove how you know what you know, you have no answer. All you can do is post a bunch of ranting rambling nonsense in response. hoping to fool people into agreeing with you, simply cuz they don't want to read your wall of text. Who do you think more people would believe?

THE PROSECUTION RESTS, YOUR HONOR!!!!:applause:

[rfoster24]

This from the same guy who just a few posts ago, says he hates on Kobe fans? But then says don't attack people, attack what they say. You don't like Kobe so what? Who the **** do you think you are to dictate to people who they should and shouldn't like in the NBA? Everybody has the power of choice and if you don't like that choice, too bad. But to sit there behind a computer on the internet thinking you can look down on people who don't agree with you simply tells me, you have some serious issues. GTFOH!!!!

Holla back when you're ready to practice what you preach

Perfect example why people hate Kobe fans...lame as hell

[LakersReign]

dmavs got hit so hard with the truth on that last post, even you felt it....huh?:lol

Oh, and by the way, lame is, hating on Kobe fans for having their own minds to like Kobe. Lame is OBVIOUS no life outside of the internet clowns like you hating on other people for having the power of choice. Cuz you're way too stupid to understand that's NOT how the real world works:hammerhead:


THAT'S LAME!!!!:facepalm

[Lebron23]

Op is a fakkit.


OP is a Bladers.

[I<3NBA]

OP is a Bladers.
:lol True. one of the worst poster on this site. someone just bumped his ******ed thread prediction saying Spurs and Heat will be upset :lol it's a wonder this clown still posts around here after all the humiliation his ******ry brought.

[D-Wade316]

Op is a fakkit.
Nice to see you back.

[hooops1]

dmavs got hit so hard with the truth on that last post, even you felt it....huh?:lol

Oh, and by the way, lame is, hating on Kobe fans for having their own minds to like Kobe. Lame is OBVIOUS no life outside of the internet clowns like you hating on other people for having the power of choice. Cuz you're way too stupid to understand that's NOT how the real world works:hammerhead:


THAT'S LAME!!!!:facepalm

Dude he just said Kobe should improve his efficiency or decrease his volume and that the statement stands by itself... You're the one who went off on some strange tangent.

[Doctor Rivers]

This from the same guy who just a few posts ago, says he hates on Kobe fans? But then says don't attack people, attack what they say. You don't like Kobe so what? Who the **** do you think you are to dictate to people who they should and shouldn't like in the NBA? Everybody has the power of choice and if you don't like that choice, too bad. But to sit there behind a computer on the internet thinking you can look down on people who don't agree with you simply tells me, you have some serious issues. The very act that you're trying to insinuate that people should ignore the opinions of CREDIBLE people in the sport. In favor of yours, when you claim you supposedly know more than they do, but can't prove it. simply tells us your real age and maturity level.

You're OBVIOUSLY some 13 - 17 year old no life outside of the internet stat geek, who's CLUELESS about how things in the real world work. Nobody with an ounce of common sense is just gonna believe what you say, simply cuz you said it. Believing you're some self appointed guru who supposedly knows more than everybody else. Yeah....you're supposedly some great basketball expert. But when asked to prove it you can't. You're CLEARLY delusional. GTFOH!!!!

Oh, and by the way, of Phil were to come on here, and we were 100% sure it was him. I'm pretty sure when asked to verify how he knows what he knows, he wouldn't hesitate to do so. Simply cuz people who know their sh*t, don't haul a** when asked to back it up. You on the other hand, being delusional as hell, want to try to compare yourself to people like Phil. But when asked to prove how you know what you know, you have no answer. All you can do is post a bunch of ranting rambling nonsense in response. hoping to fool people into agreeing with you, simply cuz they don't want to read your wall of text. Who do you think more people would believe?

THE PROSECUTION RESTS, YOUR HONOR!!!!:applause:

You need help.

[LakersReign]

Dude he just said Kobe should improve his efficiency or decrease his volume and that the statement stands by itself... You're the one who went off on some strange tangent.

Uh huh:rolleyes:
I was responding to this post:

Perfect example why people hate Kobe fans...lame as hell

with this:

dmavs got hit so hard with the truth on that last post, even you felt it....huh?:lol

Oh, and by the way, lame is, hating on Kobe fans for having their own minds to like Kobe. Lame is OBVIOUS no life outside of the internet clowns like you hating on other people for having the power of choice. Cuz you're way too stupid to understand that's NOT how the real world works:hammerhead:


THAT'S LAME!!!!:facepalm

:facepalm

[knicksman]

kobe really is overrated. Shaq can win with him as the 6th man. Hes just so lucky to play with him and then the 2nd part is he had 2 big men approaching superstar status. Hes really lucky that hes in Lakers. But he only had one ring as the man. Coz the other one was with the help of the refs trying to give pjax his 11th ring.

[LakersReign]

You need help.

Yes....you(doctor rivers) do since you're the one who believes some moron practicing medicine on an NBA forum.:hammerhead:


What? What relevance does that have.

Does it matter the source? What credentials does a GM have to make all that absolutely idiotic decision they make? Or coaches for that matter.

I played in college and was an assistant coach in college. I used to be a high school coach.

But what would that matter? I'm simply giving my opinion. Attack the opinion...do not attack me. I'm nothing.

I like Kobe. Hate his fans.

Hilarious. I didn't know I needed to post about my credentials. Something is either smart or dumb or in between on the merits of itself...not on who says it. Does that also need to be explained?http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=262850&page=4

Just gotta love it how he claims to have played and coached in college. But then turns right around and says he doesn't have to prove anything. To CONVENIENTLY avoid telling us exactly which college he supposedly played for and coached:roll:


So the Hawks GM that gave Joe Johnson a max contract knows more than me about that situation because he's the GM?

You can't be this stupid.

Michael Jordan knows more than me about evaluating talent? Bullshit. Just because you are a great player does not mean anything other than you were a great player.

MJ has been a disgrace since as a GM/Owner...etc. Does he know more than everyone else because he was so great? Please answer.

Sam Presti played D3 college ball. MJ is the greatest NBA player ever....arguably the greatest athlete ever.

Presti >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MJ as a GM...http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=262850&page=5


Ok. Lets say I'm making it all up. What relevance would that have to my opinions.

Are you telling me that if I say something as a coach it means more than if I say something as someone that hasn't coached? That all of a sudden something idiotic is smart because a player/coach says it. Or that something smart is no longer intelligent because a non player/coach says it.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=262850&page=5

But I'm supposedly the one who needs help? Please continue listening to people stupid enough to be practicing medicine on an NBA forum. Since it's obvious they have absolutely no clue of what they're talking about. So, I'd shut the hell up about all that, if I were you:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[hooops1]

Yes....you(doctor rivers) do since you're the one who believes some moron practicing medicine on an NBA forum.:hammerhead:


Just gotta love it how he claims to have played and coached in college. But then turns right around and says he doesn't have to prove anything. To CONVENIENTLY avoid telling us exactly which college he supposedly played for and coached:roll:


But I'm supposedly the one who needs help? Please continue listening to people stupid enough to be practicing medicine on an NBA forum. Since it's obvious they have absolutely no clue of what they're talking about. So, I'd shut the hell up about all that, if I were you:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Everything you bolded from DMAVS made perfect sense... awkward:(

[mehyaM24]

Everything you bolded from DMAVS made perfect sense... awkward:(

clowns do what clowns do. ive been lurking this site for a couple years and there is no poster spewing the same OLE hot garbage that lakersreign does...LOL!

[Doctor Rivers]

Yes....you(doctor rivers) do since you're the one who believes some moron practicing medicine on an NBA forum.:hammerhead:

huh?

[The Iron Fist]

Everything you bolded from DMAVS made perfect sense... awkward:(
Except for the fact that the Lakers win considerably more when he scores forty. So no, nothing he said makes sense.

[LakersReign]

Except for the fact that the Lakers win considerably more when he scores forty. So no, nothing he said makes sense.

hooops1 and mehyaM24 are some idiots alternate account, probably dmavs or some other clown, so pay no attention to anything they say.

The fact that he completely ignored how dmavs believes his nobody on the internet hater opinion should be on par with those of coaches and GM's in the NBA. Simply cuz he supposedly coached and played in college. But CONVENIENTLY can't tell us which college. The still says EVERYTHING dmavs says makes sense, is truly a dead giveaway. Stay practicing medicine on an NBA forum.:roll:

Try harder:sleeping

[D-Wade316]

You need help.
+1

[mehyaM24]

hooops1 and mehyaM24 are some idiots alternate account, probably dmavs or some other clown, so pay no attention to anything they say.

The fact that he completely ignored how dmavs believes his nobody on the internet hater opinion should be on par with those of coaches and GM's in the NBA. Simply cuz he supposedly coached and played in college. But CONVENIENTLY can't tell us which college. The still says EVERYTHING dmavs says makes sense, is truly a dead giveaway. Stay practicing medicine on an NBA forum.:roll:

Try harder:sleeping

of course i am, of course i am :facepalm

haters just cant accept the fact lebron is gonna get his third MVP and eventual championship. stay thirsty haters, stay thirsty! :mad:

[LakersReign]

Try harder:sleeping

[mehyaM24]

Try harder:sleeping

Notice the cryin' little b***h(LakersReign)? :lol

[LakersReign]

Try harder:sleeping


So the Hawks GM that gave Joe Johnson a max contract knows more than me about that situation because he's the GM?

You can't be this stupid.

Michael Jordan knows more than me about evaluating talent? Bullshit. Just because you are a great player does not mean anything other than you were a great player.

MJ has been a disgrace since as a GM/Owner...etc. Does he know more than everyone else because he was so great? Please answer.

Sam Presti played D3 college ball. MJ is the greatest NBA player ever....arguably the greatest athlete ever.

Presti >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MJ as a GM...http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=262850&page=5:facepalm

[mehyaM24]

Try harder:sleeping

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=262850&page=5:facepalm

All they can do is repeat like a pathetic bunch of parrots. Kobe fans have NO REASONING CAPABILITIES!!!!

Try again :no:

[LakersReign]

Try harder:rolleyes:

[Calabis]

Try harder:sleeping

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c245/DelVoire/Yoda.jpg

Much Anger in this one, mad he is

[mehyaM24]

Try harder:rolleyes:

PROVING once AGAIN Kobe fans have really NOTHING to say and shouldnt be taken seriously!!!!!!

GTFO...!!!

[LakersReign]

Just gotta love it how he came in here, with yet another "sock puppet" account, repeating like Forrest Gump. And now he's mad cuz he made himself look stupid. Stay mad as hell, "playing doctor" on an NBA forum. Cuz if you went on a REAL medical website with that delusional b.s, they'd see how completely full of sh*t you truly are.:lol
http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx150/cousin_e/OHDAMNLOL.gif




http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c245/DelVoire/Yoda.jpg

Much Anger in this one, mad he is

So....I'm supposed to be mad that dmavs is CLEARLY delusional to think that people will take him seriously when he says he's a better judge of talent than MJ? And, since that has absolutely nothing to do with me, why exactly am I supposed to be mad about that again?:confusedshrug:

Sure seemed like a good idea at the time, didn't it?:facepalm

Try harder next time:rolleyes:

[The Iron Fist]

All they can do is repeat like a pathetic bunch of parrots. Kobe fans have NO REASONING CAPABILITIES!!!!

Try again :no:
Reason this. Lakers win at very high rate when Kobe scores forty. Why is that a bad thing?

[gengiskhan]

Reason this. Lakers win at very high rate when Kobe scores forty. Why is that a bad thing?

reason this. If shaq is in the line up triple teamed every play in every kobe 40 pts wins, you have lot more to reason about.

[The Iron Fist]

reason this. If shaq is in the line up triple teamed every play in every kobe 40 pts wins, you have lot more to reason about.
First of all, shaq hasnt been a Laker for eight seasons. Second of all, Kobe scored more whenShaq left so your tangent about triple teams holds no weight. Third of all, you dlnt even watch basketball to know that. Lastly, Kobe>>>>>>>>>>shaq.

[gengiskhan]

kobe really is overrated. Shaq can win with him as the 6th man. Hes just so lucky to play with him and then the 2nd part is he had 2 big men approaching superstar status. Hes really lucky that hes in Lakers. But he only had one ring as the man. Coz the other one was with the help of the refs trying to give pjax his 11th ring.

I've always said this.

Kobe is the product of Lakers' system that is general managed by Jerry West.

Duncan & Shaq were not. They made the system in SA & LA respectively.

Lakers system realised long ago that Kobe cannot win being 6'6" Iverson, one trick pony. shoot shoot ballhog, shotjock, ballhog,shoot, shoot.

eventually Bynum-Gasol-Odom three towers were brought to immitate Shaq's all-star paint presence.

Kobe had some success no doubt as being the man with tons of all-stars big men help.

Where as AI being a 6'0" version of Bryant did not as sixers were just content with him making it to one finals & loosing it.

If you give AI, Bynum+Gasol+Odom trio with Phil as coach, dont be surprise he'll have the same success as kobe did in LA.

[DMAVS41]

http://insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=262850&page=5

You made it about yourself when you decided to post asinine assertions like that. That's the same tried b.s. Lebronytes have been using to try and discredit Jordan, ever since he came out and dissed Lebron leaving Cleveland the way he did. Don't try and backpeddle now cuz you realizing just how moronic you sound. Jordan's legacy on the court and his GM decisions have absolutely nothing to do with each other. People only try to connect the 2 cuz they have an agenda like you always do. Magic was a great Laker, but sucked as a coach. So....by your logic that means cuz he sucked at coaching, somehow means that "Joe Nobody" ArmChair Quarterback Extraordinaire, is a better coach than Magic? As usual your logic doesn't make any sense.:facepalm

What the **** are you talking about? How have you not been banned. You are by far the worst poster on this website because not only are you a terrible troll, but you lack the intellect to even counter a simple statement.

I never said MJ as a players was connected to him being a GM/Owner. I simply said he's done a shit job and done some idiotic things. Which is just accepted at this point by everyone in the basketball world. Sorry...deal with it.

Again. Presti has done a much better job. But if, according to you, that playing in the NBA makes one smarter and better....then how is that possible?

Who cares the source of anything...you should always evaluate what someone asserts....not evaluate the person.

A person with a degree from Harvard could state a truly idiotic statement and some moron like you would give it credence over a brilliant notion asserted by a community college graduate.

The real world doesn't work like that you ignorant ****. Its about what you do and how good you are....

No owner in the league would hire Jordan over Presti or Buford as their GM....LOL

[LakersReign]

Michael Jordan knows more than me about evaluating talent? Bullshit. Just because you are a great player does not mean anything other than you were a great player. MJ has been a disgrace since as a GM/Owner...etc. http://insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=262850&page=5

Just gotta love it how he now wants me to get banned so he can hide just how delusional he truly is.:roll: