Is Kevin Hart a Legend Yet?

[Timmy D for MVP]

I was watchin his newest set, Laugh at my Pain, and thought it was pretty good. But I was thinkin, has he done enough to be considered legendary. I mean lets look at it like this:

Grown Little Man- Legendary set. One of the best of this generation.
Seriously Funny- Really really good, possibly great set. Extrememely quotable.
Laugh at my Pain- Pretty good set. Not his best, but some hilarious moments.

Then he has his scene stealing in pretty much every movie he's ever been in. He has one of the best youtube channels of any comedian (I'm overlooking the fact that his rapping shtick is a poor man's Deshawn Raw Supa Hot Fire bit). He's constantly cracking up the funniest of people in interviews (I like to watch comedians with other comedians. I feel like they try to one up eachother and eventually someone gives in. With Hart someone else is almost always giving in because they're laughin).

And of course we'll always remember the AS Celebrity game. :oldlol:

Here are the things that I think might be keeping him back: the biggest is lack of work. He is still young, he needs to build a bigger resume. He hasn't had his own major movie, even though he's smashed it in everything he's been in (that I've seen). Also his 3rd set was a good 3 notches below his first two. Idk why but I doubt he's running out of material.

What do ya'll think? In my book he's on the cusp of being a legend, but Grown Little Man is already legendary as far as I'm concerned.

[flipogb]

1 big movie and stop laughing at himself during the show, do that and he would be a legend

[andgar923]

Wow standards have severely dropped.

[JtotheIzzo]

I checked him out a couple of years back because I read a lot about him in the OTC, likely from Kizzle or one of the other Jet Magazine editors that post here, and I hate to be 'that guy', but Kevin Hart sucks. Flat out unfunny and boring shit.

[SunsCaptain]

White people have to like him for him to be a legend.....lol jk

Legends to me as a cracker:

Chris Rock
Dave Chappell
Keegan and Jordan Peele
Bernie Mac
Eddie Murphy

Wasnt old enough for some of the other legends...not into the big mama stuff dont like all that tyler perry stuff or w/e i dont even know... not a fan of that 30 rock guy....although that cop movie he was in was funny as shit....hes okay just compared to the list above....noooo way.

As for kevin hart? the guy just annoys me and pissed me off not funny at all!

[TylerOO]

Overrated.

[RaininTwos]

Yes.

I don't see why anyone would say otherwise.

[CLE[216]]

He's the Chris Tucker of our generation.

[andgar923]

I checked him out a couple of years back because I read a lot about him in the OTC, likely from Kizzle or one of the other Jet Magazine editors that post here, and I hate to be 'that guy', but Kevin Hart sucks. Flat out unfunny and boring shit.

This.

He's like a less talented black version of Jack Black.

[donald_trump]

This.

He's like a less talented black version of Jack Black.

his comedic style is about as similar to jack black as strawberries are to a left footed shoe. not very.

[andgar923]

his comedic style is about as similar to jack black as strawberries are to a left footed shoe. not very.

Not really referring to style, mostly referring to how overrated and annoying they both are.

Although Jack is more talented then he is.

And you're kinda wrong as well....

Both Jack and he have played that annoying/loser friend, the comedic sidekick in which they overact and want to emphasis everything they do. So actually they're not so different.

[flipogb]

not enough marijuana jokes for you guys I guess

[andgar923]

not enough marijuana jokes for you guys I guess

Not enough good jokes period.

[joe]

He damn near killed me in 2002 or so.... watching scary movie 3 in theaters. Funny as hell man.

[Saintsfan1992]

Not really referring to style, mostly referring to how overrated and annoying they both are.

Although Jack is more talented then he is.

And you're kinda wrong as well....

Both Jack and he have played that annoying/loser friend, the comedic sidekick in which they overact and want to emphasis everything they do. So actually they're not so different.


You're ****ing crazy.

[flipogb]

Not enough good jokes period.
sucks to be you

[EnoughSaid]

So are you guys now judging how he makes you laugh? If someone makes me laugh until my stomach hurts and I'm almost crying, I find that guy to be hilarious. :confusedshrug:

[Timmy D for MVP]

This is interesting actually. I have a theory, let me ask you, to those who dislike him, who DO you like?

[SCREWstonRockets]

Legend? Seriously? Name all the "legends" and say to yourself, "Does he belong with them?" The answer is no. If we're talking just black comedians, Pryor, Murphy, Rock and Chappelle. Hart is just not on their level. He is not even on the Kings of Comedy level as far as success goes. Don't get me wrong, the guy is funny. But I dont think he is a legend.

[Stuckey]

nikga aint even funny

[G-Funk]

not in my book

[ace23]

I didn't know people debated things like this.

[NuggetsFan]

You're ****ing crazy.

Kevin Hart is hilarious, love his little roles in movies. I don't watch any stand up really but I'll watch some of his because dude just cracks me up.

That being said Jack Black is far more talented than Kevin Hart IMO :confusedshrug:

[B-Low]

I wouldn't call him a LEGEND but to say the guy isn't funny is just insane. I saw Think Like a Man a few weeks ago and he was hilarious in that.

[RoseCity07]

The guy isn't even funny at all. He tries way too hard to make people laugh. The guy just appeals to the lowest common denominator. People who will laugh at anything. He is not talented at all.

[RoseCity07]

This is interesting actually. I have a theory, let me ask you, to those who dislike him, who DO you like?

Dave Chappelle, Louis CK, Chris Rock, Robin Williams. There are many more comedians out there that are better than this guy.

Lewis Black is better. Stephen Colbert is funnier. Eddie Griffin and Martin Laurence are better than this guy.

Kevin Hart is just corny.

[RaininTwos]

Dave Chappelle, Louis CK, Chris Rock, Robin Williams. There are many more comedians out there that are better than this guy.

Lewis Black is better. Stephen Colbert is funnier. Eddie Griffin and Martin Laurence are better than this guy.

Kevin Hart is just corny.

Not one dude you named has less than like twice the experience of Hart. Can we stop being uber critical of the dude already?

[RoseCity07]

Not one dude you named has less than like twice the experience of Hart. Can we stop being uber critical of the dude already?

Ok. I thought he was good in Soul Plane. That's about it.

[RaininTwos]

Ok. I thought he was good in Soul Plane. That's about it.
OPINION INVALIDATED FOREVER!:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[L.Kizzle]

Kevin Hart is funny. but he is not a legend.

If he is a legend, than so is Mike Epps.

The only posted who thinks he's a legend is Saints Fan 92. He thinks Hart is better than Bill Cosby.

[Timmy D for MVP]

Dave Chappelle, Louis CK, Chris Rock, Robin Williams. There are many more comedians out there that are better than this guy.

Lewis Black is better. Stephen Colbert is funnier. Eddie Griffin and Martin Laurence are better than this guy.

Kevin Hart is just corny.

See I saw Griffin and Laurence do some sets and didn't laugh more than a few times.

Chappelle, C.K., CR, Williams I will absolutely give you. Granted of the sets I've seen only Chappelle, and Rock have sets better than Grown Little Man.

Lewis Black has real good sets, good books, and does great work on t.v. But his career has been longer, I wouldn't say he's a better comic. Colbert is a different beast.

And thank you for actually listing some guys.

He has great set up, great timing and that leads to great delivery.

[Myth]

Never heard of him before this year. Hard for me to call somebody legendary if he is just now popular. Lets see if we still care about him in 5 years.

[Timmy D for MVP]

Kevin Hart is funny. but he is not a legend.

If he is a legend, than so is Mike Epps.

The only posted who thinks he's a legend is Saints Fan 92. He thinks Hart is better than Bill Cosby.

Mike Epps?!

Name one Mike Epps set that sniffs Grown Little Man.

[L.Kizzle]

See I saw Griffin and Laurence do some sets and didn't laugh more than a few times.

Chappelle, C.K., CR, Williams I will absolutely give you. Granted of the sets I've seen only Chappelle, and Rock have sets better than Grown Little Man.

Lewis Black has real good sets, good books, and does great work on t.v. But his career has been longer, I wouldn't say he's a better comic. Colbert is a different beast.

And thank you for actually listing some guys.

He has great set up, great timing and that leads to great delivery.
Griffin and Lawrence are funnier, and I like Kevin Hart. Have you ever seen any of Eddie's stand up specials?

Cheppelle is very good but also very overrated at the same time. No one cared about him before Chappele's Show, lol.

CK, Rock and Williams, great comics. Lewis Black is cool too.

[L.Kizzle]

Never heard of him before this year. Hard for me to call somebody legendary if he is just now popular. Lets see if we still care about him in 5 years.
He really blew up after his set on Shaq's All Star Comedy Jam in 2009.

[L.Kizzle]

Mike Epps?!

Name one Mike Epps set that sniffs Grown Little Man.
I never said that, though Underrated, Faded, and X-Rated is pretty funny.

I was saying that if Kevin Hart is considered a legend than so should Epps, considering Epps has a slightly longer career in the spotlight.

[andgar923]

Challenge....

I want to like the dude, I do. He seems like a cool dude, but like somebody mentioned, he tries too hard to be funny.

I can't recall ever laughing from anything that I've seen him in. I must confess, my experience with him is limited. So can somebody prove me wrong and post shit that'll make me laugh.

Maybe it's something I've been missing, maybe I haven't seen enough... I dunno... somebody re-introduce me to him. I have no problem in taking back everything I've said about the dude.

But even then... "Legend" is HUGE label.

[L.Kizzle]

Challenge....

I want to like the dude, I do. He seems like a cool dude, but like somebody mentioned, he tries too hard to be funny.

I can't recall ever laughing from anything that I've seen him in. I must confess, my experience with him is limited. So can somebody prove me wrong and post shit that'll make me laugh.

Maybe it's something I've been missing, maybe I haven't seen enough... I dunno... somebody re-introduce me to him. I have no problem in taking back everything I've said about the dude.

But even then... "Legend" is HUGE label.
Check out his set from Shaq's Comedy Jam in 2009. That's what really put him on the map. He had a TV Show, and starred in movies before, but this put his name out there.

[L.Kizzle]

Nick Cannon is a legend.
Nick Cannon is not that bad. Did you see his recent special Mr. Entertainment? It wasn't half bad.

[Go Getter]

:facepalm
I checked him out a couple of years back because I read a lot about him in the OTC, likely from Kizzle or one of the other Jet Magazine editors that post here, and I hate to be 'that guy', but Kevin Hart sucks. Flat out unfunny and boring shit.


Dude you are one pretentious, jaded individual.


Kevin Hart does suck though.

If guys like Foxx
Carlin
Pryor
Murphy
Dangerfield

are legends then Hart does not deserve to be in their company.

[andgar923]

Check out his set from Shaq's Comedy Jam in 2009. That's what really put him on the map. He had a TV Show, and starred in movies before, but this put his name out there.
sorry, but I aint gonna look for it.

Can you or somebody else, post a specific performance?

[Go Getter]

Ok. I thought he was good in Soul Plane. That's about it.
:facepalm

[L.Kizzle]

Is Tommy Davidson considered a legend? If not, than Kevin can't be.

[Alamo]

Pineapples, i don't like it

[L.Kizzle]

Pineapples, i don't like it
Say it wit ya chest!

[Alamo]

alright alright alright!


Kevin Hart is funny but he can't be considered a legend yet, he's still in his prime.

[RoseCity07]

See I saw Griffin and Laurence do some sets and didn't laugh more than a few times.

Chappelle, C.K., CR, Williams I will absolutely give you. Granted of the sets I've seen only Chappelle, and Rock have sets better than Grown Little Man.

Lewis Black has real good sets, good books, and does great work on t.v. But his career has been longer, I wouldn't say he's a better comic. Colbert is a different beast.

And thank you for actually listing some guys.

He has great set up, great timing and that leads to great delivery.

I threw Griffin and Laurence in there, I was actually thinking about not putting them in there. The reason I put Eddie Griffin is because of his part in Duce Bigalow. I liked Martin Laurence in Blue Streak. I haven't watched their stand up.

[Timmy D for MVP]

Maybe I'm putting too much stock into stand-up in comparison to you guys.

And Kizzle yes I've seen plenty of sets from Griffin and Martin and a great many others. I was really into stand up.

Only a handful match Hart's first two.

[G-train]

Hart aint even on Chevy Chase level yet.

[jdm_dc_fan]

Paul mooney. so under rated.

[chairman]

Yes he is probably the greatest black comedian of all time. Am I the only one who can't stand Chris Rock though? I think he is terrible :facepalm

[Go Getter]

Yes he is probably the greatest black comedian of all time. Am I the only one who can't stand Chris Rock though? I think he is terrible :facepalm

Probably?

:confusedshrug:

No. He does not have an iota of Pryor's funny.

[chairman]

Probably?

:confusedshrug:

No. He does not have an iota of Pryor's funny.
Him and Dave Chappelle are the only black comedians that are actually funny

[pauk]

Yes he is probably the greatest black comedian of all time. Am I the only one who can't stand Chris Rock though? I think he is terrible :facepalm

Richard Pryor? Dave Chappelle? Eddie Murphy? Bill Cosby? Chris Rock? They all had more innovative and funnier standup material.... hell you could even argue Katt Williams, Martin Lawrence and Chris Tucker were funnier than Kevin Hart...

[L.Kizzle]

Dave Chapelle is "so" overrated. Nobody was checking for him before Chappelle's Show, now all of a suden he's the next Richard Pryor. I remember him from Woo, haha.

[Tarik One]

He's a hella lot funnier than Seth Rogen

[RaininTwos]

He's one of the few black comedian that can make stadiums laugh without spewing a million race/stereotype jokes so I guess I give him major credit for that. The subject matter he jokes about is diverse but yet still somewhat personal and just like OP, listening to him in interviews he makes everyone else laugh as well. I've seen him kill on The Breakfast Club, The Foxxhole and other radio shows that are tough environments.

Why is the term legend used so selectively here anyways? You don't have to be a top ten comedian ever to be a legend. Paul Mooney is a legend to me and no one has even uttered the dude's name here. Does that mean that his impact in the comedy game wasn't immense? Hell no. Does that mean that he wasn't funny? Hell no.

Kizzle must be trolling to compare Hart to Mike Epps. I like Epps, but get the f*ck out because you and I both know that isn't an accurate comparison at all. Hart is really carrying the torch for black comedians these days because all of the other major, high level ones have been on a hiatus or retired. That's a lot of pressure but he's got a plan and has been handling it well while making me laugh like a retard.

Props to him.

[NotYetGreat]

I'm not a stand-up kinda guy but when my friends show me something, I can't refuse. My friend showed me one set of Katt Williams with Li'l Jon in it and I barely chuckled to be honest. Now, when my friends downloaded Laugh At My Pain and Seriously Funny, damn, I couldn't stop laughing, even if I was watching by myself. I've seen a lot of Katt too on shows like Wild'n Out, and he was easily one of the best there, but I honestly find Kevin Hart loads funnier than him.

[Saintsfan1992]

The guy isn't even funny at all. He tries way too hard to make people laugh. The guy just appeals to the lowest common denominator. People who will laugh at anything. He is not talented at all.

:biggums:

If I laughed at everything, I would laugh at Dane cook.

:facepalm

[Saintsfan1992]

Kevin Hart is funny. but he is not a legend.

If he is a legend, than so is Mike Epps.

The only posted who thinks he's a legend is Saints Fan 92. He thinks Hart is better than Bill Cosby.
sdfu i didn't say he was a legend and Bill is Not funny at all. :pimp:

[Saintsfan1992]

alright alright alright!


Kevin Hart is funny but he can't be considered a legend yet, he's still in his prime.

This :pimp:

[Saintsfan1992]

And Chris rock is overrated, he relies to much on race and sex jokes.

Chris rock's voice>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>His jokes. :pimp:

[Tarik One]

And D.L. Hughley is overrated, he relies to much on race and sex jokes.

Fixed

[Saintsfan1992]

Fixed

Naw D.L just not that good. :pimp:

[Knicks101]

Nick Cannon is not that bad. Did you see his recent special Mr. Entertainment? It wasn't half bad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfKn2IXI4Yg
:durantunimpressed:

[L.Kizzle]

He's one of the few black comedian that can make stadiums laugh without spewing a million race/stereotype jokes so I guess I give him major credit for that. The subject matter he jokes about is diverse but yet still somewhat personal and just like OP, listening to him in interviews he makes everyone else laugh as well. I've seen him kill on The Breakfast Club, The Foxxhole and other radio shows that are tough environments.

Why is the term legend used so selectively here anyways? You don't have to be a top ten comedian ever to be a legend. Paul Mooney is a legend to me and no one has even uttered the dude's name here. Does that mean that his impact in the comedy game wasn't immense? Hell no. Does that mean that he wasn't funny? Hell no.

Kizzle must be trolling to compare Hart to Mike Epps. I like Epps, but get the f*ck out because you and I both know that isn't an accurate comparison at all. Hart is really carrying the torch for black comedians these days because all of the other major, high level ones have been on a hiatus or retired. That's a lot of pressure but he's got a plan and has been handling it well while making me laugh like a retard.

Props to him.
I compared them by how long they have been out in the spotlight not by material?

I like Hart, but he is not Eddie Murphy 80s' huge, hell not even Arsenio early 90s's huge.

He is, like I said Mike Epps huge. HE's never reached the popularity of a Damon Wayans, Martin Lawrence, even Mark Curry from his Hangin with Mr. Cooper days.

[L.Kizzle]

sdfu i didn't say he was a legend and Bill is Not funny at all. :pimp:
You don't know a thing about comedy, if you don't think Bill Cosby is funny.

[RaininTwos]

I compared them by how long they have been out in the spotlight not by material?

I like Hart, but he is not Eddie Murphy 80s' huge, hell not even Arsenio early 90s's huge.

He is, like I said Mike Epps huge. HE's never reached the popularity of a Damon Wayans, Martin Lawrence, even Mark Curry from his Hangin with Mr. Cooper days.

I dont know why I read your posts anymore.

[L.Kizzle]

I dont know why I read your posts anymore.
Am I wrong?

Like I said before, no where did I say Epps was funnier than Hart, but they are about even in popularity. Do you know a lot of folks still don't know who Kevin Hart is?

Kevin Hart is about as popular as prime Joe Torry circa 1993-1997.

[RaininTwos]

Am I wrong?

Like I said before, no where did I say Epps was funnier than Hart, but they are about even in popularity. Do you know a lot of folks still don't know who Kevin Hart is?

Kevin Hart is about as popular as prime Joe Torry circa 1993-1997.
Keep posting nonsense.

[L.Kizzle]

Keep posting nonsense.
You don't even know. Joe hosted Def Comedy Jam and starred in four movies during that time.

[Bucket_Nakedz]

Dave Chapelle is "so" overrated. Nobody was checking for him before Chappelle's Show, now all of a suden he's the next Richard Pryor. I remember him from Woo, haha.
Ive been following chappelle since i first saw him on robin hood: men in tights. chappelle should never be labeled as overrated. He never wanted to be famous and left.on his own terms. it took chappelle.show for people.to.recogjize his genius.

[L.Kizzle]

Ive been following chappelle since i first saw him on robin hood: men in tights. chappelle should never be labeled as overrated. He never wanted to be famous and left.on his own terms. it took chappelle.show for people.to.recogjize his genius.
Not in comedy, just in people on his nuts? Chappelle is one of the best. He actually made his TV debut 2 years earlier on MTV Half-Hour Comedy.

[RaininTwos]

You don't even know. Joe hosted Def Comedy Jam and starred in four movies during that time.
Kevin Hart was just in two movies LAST MONTH, like I said before, stop it. You are just posting garbage.

[L.Kizzle]

Kevin Hart was just in two movies LAST MONTH, like I said before, stop it. You are just posting garbage.
Stand up comedy is totaly different in 2012 than it was 20 years ago. Think of the top comics back then and think of the top today? CK and Rock were openning acts and now are the biggest. Seinfield, Jim Carrey, Damon Wayans, Martin, Kinison hell even Dice Clay. The 80s comedy explosion was still alive. Steve Martin, Robin Williams, Whoopie, Billy Crystal, ect were all huge.

[RaininTwos]

Stand up comedy is totaly different in 2012 than it was 20 years ago. Think of the top comics back then and think of the top today? CK and Rock were openning acts and now are the biggest. Seinfield, Jim Carrey, Damon Wayans, Martin, Kinison hell even Dice Clay. The 80s comedy explosion was still alive. Steve Martin, Robin Williams, Whoopie, Billy Crystal, ect were all huge.
Rock was huge in the 90's. He really hit his stride after getting his HBO show. Chris Tucker went on to become part of the 20 million dollar per movie club.

What did Guy do in the same decade? Starred in four movies? That's crazy.:rolleyes:

Like everything else, it takes time to develop a fanbase and perfect your craft. I understand that. Hart has been in the comedy game for a while as well, so what is your point? You are merely stating the obvious and providing irrelevant information that everyone already knows.

Oh and I knew that you were comparing Mike Epps and Hart's popularity because we all know that Hart has way better material. Either way you are still trolling. Saying that their popularity was the same at any point is ridiculous. One person got typecast into funny roles and rode the wave during their peak. The other is Kevin Hart.

[DeuceWallaces]

I find him funny at times, but he's barely a well known comedian outside of black audiences, yet alone a legend.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Mitch Hedberg >>>>>>

[L.Kizzle]

Rock was huge in the 90's. He really hit his stride after getting his HBO show. Chris Tucker went on to become part of the 20 million dollar per movie club.

What did Guy do in the same decade? Starred in four movies? That's crazy.:rolleyes:

Like everything else, it takes time to develop a fanbase and perfect your craft. I understand that. Hart has been in the comedy game for a while as well, so what is your point? You are merely stating the obvious and providing irrelevant information that everyone already knows.

Oh and I knew that you were comparing Mike Epps and Hart's popularity because we all know that Hart has way better material. Either way you are still trolling. Saying that their popularity was the same at any point is ridiculous. One person got typecast into funny roles and rode the wave during their peak. The other is Kevin Hart.
20 years ago, Rock was not huge. In 1992, he was barley gettin sketches on SNL. Chris Tucker was never huge in the stand up field. Why can't you understand Hart is not huge. He's as popular as Mike Epps or 90s Joe Torry.

[L.Kizzle]

If he can stay somewhat relevant for a few more years, then yes.

Right now, he's still behind D.L. Hughley and Bill Bellamy.

[flipogb]

Hart is a black guy who doesn't use race jokes, thats impressive

[oh the horror]

Hart is a black guy who doesn't use race jokes, thats impressive



Agreed. Very tired of that shtick.

[stallionaire]

Agreed. Very tired of that shtick.

Even when dave chappelle does it? as a black dude I love racial commentary by intelligent dudes like Chappelle. Makes living in this world more bearable.

I can understand why it makes white people uncomfortable.

[oh the horror]

Even when dave chappelle does it? as a black dude I love racial commentary by intelligent dudes like Chappelle. Makes living in this world more bearable.

I can understand why it makes white people uncomfortable.



Well, I liked it at first. When Dave hit the scenes are really blew up he came at it in his own hilarious nature, and pulls it off well. Im Puerto Rican so I can relate to it, but after awhile of seeing this for the past 15 years or so, its kind of rubs the raw for me.

[L.Kizzle]

He's almost there.

[dazzer87]

Hes the black version of a Dane Cook.