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TheMan
05-13-2012, 06:31 PM
All the scoring by either Wade or LBJ in the 4th, that'll get you only so far and honestly, Indiana should've won today but regardless, the Heat as a team aren't very good, it's 3 very good players and a bunch of crap. LBJ, Wade and Bosh can only do so much, the scrubs gotta contribute with more than just hustle:facepalm Again, you can get away with that vs the Pacers of the world but not against Boston, OKC, Spurs etc...

Bookmarking this thread to show you guys I wasn't wrong when the Heat eventually lose.

Derka
05-13-2012, 06:34 PM
You know they lost last year, right?

This isn't like...a revelation or something.

bleedinpurpleTwo
05-13-2012, 06:35 PM
nonsense.
3 All-Stars in the prime.
Plus quality role players.
They will be fine.

tpols
05-13-2012, 06:35 PM
All the scoring by either Wade or LBJ in the 4th, that'll get you only so far and honestly, Indiana should've won today but regardless, the Heat as a team aren't very good, it's 3 very good players and a bunch of crap. LBJ, Wade and Bosh can only do so much, the scrubs gotta contribute with more than just hustle:facepalm Again, you can get away with that vs the Pacers of the world but not against Boston, OKC, Spurs etc...

Bookmarking this thread to show you guys I wasn't wrong when the Heat eventually lose.
Cant really do that when Lebron and Wade command the ball so much.. they dont play like a team.

If you were to put this team up against teams in international, real basketball, rules where shooting and playing team ball are the most important things they would get slaughtered.

(e)
05-13-2012, 06:36 PM
They win because Lebron and Wade can live at the line. Plus those guys won't get in foul trouble. Tough to beat a team that can find a rhythm from the line

TheMan
05-13-2012, 06:38 PM
nonsense.
3 All-Stars in the prime.
Plus quality role players.
They will be fine.
NSIS

How many points did the scrubs score again?

EnoughSaid
05-13-2012, 06:39 PM
That's why they were two wins away from it last year, right? :facepalm When Wade and LeBron get going and their intensity is there, this team is very hard to stop.

StateOfMind12
05-13-2012, 06:41 PM
Heat are one of the best 3 point shooting teams in the league with Miller, Chalmers, and Battier in the 3 point line but it seemed like today was not their day. I think it just goes to show you how much better the Heat are than the Pacers which is why I said the Heat will win the series in 4-5. I would say today was probably the Pacers best chance but they blew it due to lack of offensive weapons.

The Indiana Pacers are like the Denver Nuggets on steroids.

TheMan
05-13-2012, 06:41 PM
You know they lost last year, right?

This isn't like...a revelation or something.
I basically made this thread to remind the Heat bandwagon fans that it takes a TEAM to win it all, this 3 man team doesn't have a chance, against the Knicks or Philly or Indy they can get by, but not the elite teams.

r15mohd
05-13-2012, 06:42 PM
1 of 8 teams left, up 1game in the series...I'd think they would have more than "zero chance" at bringing it home

Nash
05-13-2012, 06:46 PM
I agree with this. They are extremely top heavy. But it is what it is, them being top heavy is their strength while other teams having better contributors are their strength.

TheMan
05-13-2012, 06:47 PM
That's why they were two wins away from it last year, right? :facepalm When Wade and LeBron get going and their intensity is there, this team is very hard to stop.
2 wins, 1 win ,7 wins...it don't matter, they fell short and will do so again this year, book it. They aren't very good as a TEAM, it's 3 v 5 and as you get deeper in the playoffsm, you face better TEAMS. The Pacers are not an elite team, they are a very good well rounded team with no elite player and they can't close out games, they couldn't last year vs Chicago and they won't this year vs Miami. They'll battle you to 6 hard fought games but the Heat will prevail but they fall to a team that can close them out.

Sorry kid.

EnoughSaid
05-13-2012, 06:49 PM
2 wins, 1 win ,7 wins...it don't matter, they fell short and will do so again this year, book it. They aren't very good as a TEAM, it's 3 v 5 and as you get deeper in the playoffsm, you face better TEAMS. The Pacers are not an elite team, they are a very good well rounded team with no elite player and they can't close out games, they couldn't last year vs Chicago and they won't this year vs Miami. They'll battle you to 6 hard fought games but the Heat will prevail but they fall to a team that can close you out.

Sorry kid.

It took one of the most remarkable playoff runs in history to beat them. Dirk played out of his mind, every guy on the Mavericks roster lit it up, and LeBron played like absolute shit. Do you honestly believe that something like that would be possible again? No. The Heat can beat every team left in the Playoffs, and if Wade and LeBron consistently play at a high level like they did last year in the Playoffs, I see them winning it all.

catquickspider
05-13-2012, 06:49 PM
Did you forget the refs are on their side? :biggums:

They have the best chance at winning. Now it is just a matter of Lebron pussying out or not in the big game.

outbreak
05-13-2012, 06:50 PM
I don't think their bench and role players are that back tbh, more of an issue that they don't get a chance to get involved in the game because of the coaching style of letting wade and lebron do anything they want on offence.

quick96
05-13-2012, 06:51 PM
TODAYS GAME WAS AN OBVIOUS FIX...

WHAT A WAY TO GIVE UP AND STOP PLAYING FOR THE PACERS.

IT WAS SO OBVIOUS WITH ON 6 DOWN AND 2 MINUTES

TO GO.

PACERS STILL HAD A CHANCE... WHAT A SHOWING OF

LACK OF EFFORT.

IT'S ALMOST AS IF THE PACERS GOT PAID TO LOSE

BY DAVID STERN AND ESPN/ABC.. :eek:

G-train
05-13-2012, 06:54 PM
Garbage thread.... 0% chance?
They were a 5 min Dallas run from the title last season. So they were a high chance last season, with a worse team, against better opposition.

TheMan
05-13-2012, 06:57 PM
It took one of the most remarkable playoff runs in history to beat them. Dirk played out of his mind, every guy on the Mavericks roster lit it up, and LeBron played like absolute shit. Do you honestly believe that something like that would be possible again? No. The Heat can beat every team left in the Playoffs, and if Wade and LeBron consistently play at a high level like they did last year in the Playoffs, I see them winning it all.
Dirk played out of his mind? He's one of the greatest PFs ever, he didn't play out of his mind, he played like he's shown he's can, he's played better in earlier playoffs series:facepalm ...sorry kid but LBJ has a history of checking out in the postseason, his Finals last year were a fraud but what guarantee do you have he won't do it again? But that's not my point, the Heat can't win 3 v 5 forever (well, if the refs keep helping them the way they have, they just might pull it off).

TheMan
05-13-2012, 06:58 PM
Garbage thread.... 0% chance?
They were a 5 min Dallas run from the title last season. So they were a high chance last season, with a worse team, against better opposition.
avi bet

LamarOdom
05-13-2012, 06:59 PM
TODAYS GAME WAS AN OBVIOUS FIX...

WHAT A WAY TO GIVE UP AND STOP PLAYING FOR THE PACERS.

IT WAS SO OBVIOUS WITH ON 6 DOWN AND 2 MINUTES

TO GO.

PACERS STILL HAD A CHANCE... WHAT A SHOWING OF

LACK OF EFFORT.

IT'S ALMOST AS IF THE PACERS GOT PAID TO LOSE

BY DAVID STERN AND ESPN/ABC.. :eek:

In conclusion you were born 1996.

sic
05-13-2012, 08:45 PM
Well the heat have a chance but they still have the 3 big weak spots:

Point Guard - chalmers will be exposed by a good point guard
Center - Always been there
Coaching -- Spoelstra has not seemed anything special to me.

KDTrey5
05-13-2012, 08:46 PM
TODAYS GAME WAS AN OBVIOUS FIX...

WHAT A WAY TO GIVE UP AND STOP PLAYING FOR THE PACERS.

IT WAS SO OBVIOUS WITH ON 6 DOWN AND 2 MINUTES

TO GO.

PACERS STILL HAD A CHANCE... WHAT A SHOWING OF

LACK OF EFFORT.

IT'S ALMOST AS IF THE PACERS GOT PAID TO LOSE

BY DAVID STERN AND ESPN/ABC.. :eek:

:roll: :roll:

RoseCity07
05-13-2012, 08:48 PM
As much as I want Miami to win I gotta admit there are a lot of things that give me doubts. Wade just doesn't take over like he used to if Lebron is not playing well. The Heat bench is really not that good. Hell, Joel Anthony and Chalmers really aren't that good. The Heat need a better rebounding center. If they could get a guy like Gortat and a slightly better point guard I'd think that would make a huge difference.

This current team is really not that good without Lebron.

G-train
05-13-2012, 08:56 PM
avi bet

You are already wrong. They at least a 50% chance at the title. Not 0%.

04mzwach
05-13-2012, 09:16 PM
Yeah, the refs tend to give the Heat too much credit. I saw a 5 and 4 point swing just off of the 2nd half when I couldnt pay full attention. James also got God type of calls at times.

Eat Like A Bosh
05-13-2012, 09:34 PM
They're top heavy, but that's what the playoffs are all about. The Lakers had a shitty bench, but won it in 09 and 10. In playoffs, the rotation goes from a 10 to a 7. They're reaching the Finals even without Bosh.

Alamo
05-13-2012, 09:35 PM
They won't win the championship this year.

The_Yearning
05-13-2012, 09:40 PM
TODAYS GAME WAS AN OBVIOUS FIX...

WHAT A WAY TO GIVE UP AND STOP PLAYING FOR THE PACERS.

IT WAS SO OBVIOUS WITH ON 6 DOWN AND 2 MINUTES

TO GO.

PACERS STILL HAD A CHANCE... WHAT A SHOWING OF

LACK OF EFFORT.

IT'S ALMOST AS IF THE PACERS GOT PAID TO LOSE

BY DAVID STERN AND ESPN/ABC.. :eek:

Seriously. Indiana are scared as hell. Collison is scared to shoot a 3 with LeBron in his face. Granger is scared. George is a choker.

inclinerator
05-13-2012, 09:43 PM
if they nearly won last year why not this year? of course they arent a great constructed team, but they can win it all

westsideozzie
05-13-2012, 09:44 PM
I agree with the OP 100 PERCENT. This Heat team is not better than last years. Against a team like the Spurs who have an inside presence and a wave of shooters and defenders, they are going to get killed.

Shane Battier is a 6"8 Mike Bibby. He's worthless.
Chalmers is a PG that can't finish and penetrate.
You think Anthony and Haslem can play with Tim Duncan?
That being said. I don't see them even getting pass Boston this year..
It's one great player in Lebron, a diminishing All Star in Wade, and a underutilized giant small forward playing the four. They got no shot against any team that will be left in the final four.

Lebron23
05-13-2012, 09:50 PM
The op is a ph@ggot. Miami will beat Boston in 5.

chips93
05-13-2012, 09:50 PM
the thunder have no low post scorer, are mediocre defensively, and have issues in crunch time

the clippers have two guys who can score

the spurs have nobody who can get his own shot whenever he wants

the celtics are straight awful offensively, as are the sixers

the lakers have nobody who can consistently get to the rim

the pacers have no go-to scorer

every team has a flaw, but somebody has to win

westsideozzie
05-13-2012, 09:55 PM
the thunder have no low post scorer, are mediocre defensively, and have issues in crunch time

the clippers have two guys who can score

the spurs have nobody who can get his own shot whenever he wants

the celtics are straight awful offensively, as are the sixers

the lakers have nobody who can consistently get to the rim

the pacers have no go-to scorer

every team has a flaw, but somebody has to win


Try Ginobli, Parker, and somebody named Timmy can bust anyone on the block!

G-train
05-13-2012, 09:56 PM
I agree with the OP 100 PERCENT. This Heat team is not better than last years. Against a team like the Spurs who have an inside presence and a wave of shooters and defenders, they are going to get killed.

Shane Battier is a 6"8 Mike Bibby. He's worthless.
Chalmers is a PG that can't finish and penetrate.
You think Anthony and Haslem can play with Tim Duncan?
That being said. I don't see them even getting pass Boston this year..
It's one great player in Lebron, a diminishing All Star in Wade, and a underutilized giant small forward playing the four. They got no shot against any team that will be left in the final four.

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Alamo
05-13-2012, 09:58 PM
They will win the eastern conference title.

chips93
05-13-2012, 10:00 PM
Try Ginobli, Parker, and somebody named Timmy can bust anyone on the block!

if you think duncan can get a good shot whenever he wants, you are deluded

parker can get a decent look, and ginobili too, but not like kobe, bron, durant, etc. can

westsideozzie
05-13-2012, 10:06 PM
if you think duncan can get a good shot whenever he wants, you are deluded

parker can get a decent look, and ginobili too, but not like kobe, bron, durant, etc. can


The Spurs lead the league in scoring because they play team basketball and lead the league in "great shots" Take that one on one crap and leave it on the playground. Ball movement and stars at every level.. Give the Spurs their due.. Heat are a flawed team that won't get past even Boston.

KingBeasley08
05-13-2012, 10:27 PM
The Spurs lead the league in scoring because they play team basketball and lead the league in "great shots" Take that one on one crap and leave it on the playground. Ball movement and stars at every level.. Give the Spurs their due.. Heat are a flawed team that won't get past even Boston.
they killed boston last year. their style hasn't changed at all since

TrueRob
05-13-2012, 10:30 PM
In my opinion, this is the first time that a LeBron led team is the best team in the league.

2009 - Magic, Lakers, Celtics > LeBron's Cavs
2010 - Lakers, Celtics > LeBron's Cavs
2011 - Mavs > LeBron's Heat
2012 - No one. Heat > all.

The only thing that can stop them is injuries.

Kurosawa0
05-13-2012, 10:31 PM
They're very suspect inside. Everyone likes to hammer Miami for the Wade/LeBron angle, but the true weakness for the team is that they don't have a paint protector and rebounder.

It's a quintessential part of any winning team. Even the Bulls of the 90's had Cartwright and Longely. Neither were great, but Miami would kill to have a player like either of them.

gilalizard
05-13-2012, 10:42 PM
They're super-stacked, have decent roleplayers and get tons of favoritism from the refs.

Anybody playing against them is playing uphill. It will take a team getting hot along with the mental collapse of the Heat (as happened last year) to beat them. As we saw with the Knicks, even a team that is very unlikely to beat the Heat is going to get kneecapped by the refs early on, to put them on notice how difficult it will be made on them if they keep it competitive.

They are, and will be for the foreseeable future, the favorites to win it all easily.

westsideozzie
05-13-2012, 10:53 PM
They're super-stacked, have decent roleplayers and get tons of favoritism from the refs.

Anybody playing against them is playing uphill. It will take a team getting hot along with the mental collapse of the Heat (as happened last year) to beat them. As we saw with the Knicks, even a team that is very unlikely to beat the Heat is going to get kneecapped by the refs early on, to put them on notice how difficult it will be made on them if they keep it competitive.

They are, and will be for the foreseeable future, the favorites to win it all easily.


Heat can't beat the Spurs 4 times. Book it.. They are a donut team..

Kingwillball
05-13-2012, 11:04 PM
Heat can BEAT ANYBODY (as Long as Bosh Returns) if Lebron plays Like he has/is Capable of the Rest of the Playoffs..There Defense at Times can Absolutely Lock teams Down in Stretches and Wade and Especially Lebron can Just take over a Game in stretches on both ends of the floor that make up for any Deficiency the team may have. If Miller, Battier, Chalmers and Haslem make shots this team will win it all. The Spurs for example wont beat the Heat in a series in fact I look at it as the Cavs vs Spurs years ago when Duncan was in his Prime and Lebron was still a pup and Spurs were Too much for Cavs.. Now roles are Reversed as Lebron and Company are in there primes and the OLDER Spurs dont have the Young Legs and athletic ability to Deal with the Heat over course of a series.

Blue&Orange
05-13-2012, 11:05 PM
Heat will struggle to beat the Celtics and will fall to anything coming from the west, unless somehow it's the clippers.

KDTrey5
05-13-2012, 11:11 PM
Heat can't beat the Spurs 4 times. Book it.. They are a donut team..
but they will be losing to okc in the finals

Bandito
05-13-2012, 11:13 PM
In my opinion, this is the first time that a LeBron led team is the best team in the league.

2009 - Magic, Lakers, Celtics > LeBron's Cavs
2010 - Lakers, Celtics > LeBron's Cavs
2011 - Mavs > LeBron's Heat
2012 - No one. Heat > all.

The only thing that can stop them is injuries.
:lol :lol :lol If you think the Mavs were better than the Heat you must be delusional:facepalm The only reason they won was by the pure will to win, something Lebron lacked last year.

westsideozzie
05-13-2012, 11:18 PM
:lol :lol :lol If you think the Mavs were better than the Heat you must be delusional:facepalm The only reason they won was by the pure will to win, something Lebron lacked last year.


I disagree wholeheartedly. Mavs were bigger, had more shooters and penetrators and a deeper bench. Shawn Marion was a good defender who could control Lebron, and guys like Stevenson were great bench players. The Mavs were pretty complete last year.

Bandito
05-13-2012, 11:30 PM
Dude nobody and I said nobody had the Mavs beating the heat last year. Heck they were two more wins of beating the Mavs if not for them going into overdrive and Lebron (not the Heat but Lebron and he only) bending over and chucking like a pornstar.

TrueRob
05-13-2012, 11:38 PM
Dude nobody and I said nobody had the Mavs beating the heat last year.

I picked Dallas to win the Finals last year. I remember other posters picking Dallas as well. Maybe not the majority, but quite a few thought Dallas would take it.

I<3NBA
05-13-2012, 11:57 PM
Heat>Bulls, u mad OP?

Bandito
05-13-2012, 11:59 PM
I picked Dallas to win the Finals last year. I remember other posters picking Dallas as well. Maybe not the majority, but quite a few thought Dallas would take it.
So its you and like two mavs fans.:lol The consensus was that the Heat would either sweep or beat tthe mavs in 5 games.

Kingwillball
05-14-2012, 12:02 AM
Hilarious how Everyone's fans have all this Bravado for Different teams Left in the Playoffs against HEat Until they played them than they will complain when they start losing like every other fan base does something like the HEat get all the Calls, they Heat are Cheap Joining Forces so they SHOULD win, The Refs are Paid off, Stern wants Lebron to get a Title ect..

Blue&Orange
05-14-2012, 12:07 AM
:lol :lol :lol If you think the Mavs were better than the Heat you must be delusional:facepalm The only reason they won was by the pure will to win, something Lebron lacked last year.
Hun? 4-2?

HylianNightmare
05-14-2012, 12:10 AM
they are built fine

K.Koscik
05-14-2012, 01:15 AM
lol at zero chance they went 6 games in the finals their first year together. and im not even a heat fan but comon man :biggums:

Askmeificare
05-26-2012, 11:20 PM
oops

mjokc
05-27-2012, 01:24 AM
oops

oops what? Did the Heat win a championship?

97 bulls
05-27-2012, 01:58 AM
The heat roster is built similar to the second threepeat bulls. And we all know how they faired.

Askmeificare
06-19-2012, 11:52 PM
All the scoring by either Wade or LBJ in the 4th, that'll get you only so far and honestly, Indiana should've won today but regardless, the Heat as a team aren't very good, it's 3 very good players and a bunch of crap. LBJ, Wade and Bosh can only do so much, the scrubs gotta contribute with more than just hustle:facepalm Again, you can get away with that vs the Pacers of the world but not against Boston, OKC, Spurs etc...

Bookmarking this thread to show you guys I wasn't wrong when the Heat eventually lose.


one more game

Velocirap31
06-19-2012, 11:54 PM
Nice find.

D-Wade316
06-19-2012, 11:55 PM
lol

dude77
06-19-2012, 11:57 PM
theman where you at :oldlol:

Lord Leoshes
06-20-2012, 12:47 AM
What idiots.:facepalm

mrclose
06-20-2012, 01:23 AM
theman where you at :oldlol:'THEMAN' be in hiding I'm afraid!

No Wait .. 'THEMAN' be afraid!:roll:

NumberSix
06-20-2012, 01:30 AM
All the scoring by either Wade or LBJ in the 4th, that'll get you only so far and honestly, Indiana should've won today but regardless, the Heat as a team aren't very good, it's 3 very good players and a bunch of crap. LBJ, Wade and Bosh can only do so much, the scrubs gotta contribute with more than just hustle:facepalm Again, you can get away with that vs the Pacers of the world but not against Boston, OKC, Spurs etc...

Bookmarking this thread to show you guys I wasn't wrong when the Heat eventually lose.
failure

Askmeificare
06-21-2012, 11:59 PM
theman where you at :oldlol:

:lol

TheMan
06-22-2012, 12:47 PM
I'll admit I was wrong, I didn't say LBJ wouldn't play great, I thought the role players were not good enough.

LBJ is the reason they won but Chalmers, Battier, Cole and Miller had huge moments this series.

Congrats Heat...I'll have another serving of crow...

BTW, who would've predicted the Heat would struggle a lot more against Boston than OKC, go figure.

Inactive
06-22-2012, 12:53 PM
BTW, who would've predicted the Heat would struggle a lot more against Boston than OKC, go figure.I think it was mostly due to Bosh's injury. Miami didn't have anyone who could guard KG 1 on 1, so they fronted him constantly, and Rondo just lobbed it to him, leading to several easy baskets per game. Bosh can't guard KG strait up, but he has the length to deflect lobs, and make it more difficult for KG to get easy baskets. Their lack of size on the interior also made it easy for Rondo to score off penetration. Once Bosh came back, he altered a lot of those layups.

Human Error
06-22-2012, 01:42 PM
I'll admit I was wrong, I didn't say LBJ wouldn't play great, I thought the role players were not good enough.

LBJ is the reason they won but Chalmers, Battier, Cole and Miller had huge moments this series.

Congrats Heat...I'll have another serving of crow...

BTW, who would've predicted the Heat would struggle a lot more against Boston than OKC, go figure.
OKC is a jump shooting team and the Heat have the best perimeter defense. Actually a lot of posters were saying that OKC could not match up well with Miami. Idiots did not listen of course.

Askmeificare
07-18-2012, 09:43 PM
All the scoring by either Wade or LBJ in the 4th, that'll get you only so far and honestly, Indiana should've won today but regardless, the Heat as a team aren't very good, it's 3 very good players and a bunch of crap. LBJ, Wade and Bosh can only do so much, the scrubs gotta contribute with more than just hustle:facepalm Again, you can get away with that vs the Pacers of the world but not against Boston, OKC, Spurs etc...

Bookmarking this thread to show you guys I wasn't wrong

:lol

Hank
07-18-2012, 10:06 PM
All the scoring by either Wade or LBJ in the 4th, that'll get you only so far and honestly, Indiana should've won today but regardless, the Heat as a team aren't very good, it's 3 very good players and a bunch of crap. LBJ, Wade and Bosh can only do so much, the scrubs gotta contribute with more than just hustle:facepalm Again, you can get away with that vs the Pacers of the world but not against Boston, OKC, Spurs etc...

Bookmarking this thread to show you guys I wasn't wrong when the Heat eventually lose.




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Askmeificare
02-12-2013, 11:27 PM
All the scoring by either Wade or LBJ in the 4th, that'll get you only so far and honestly, Indiana should've won today but regardless, the Heat as a team aren't very good, it's 3 very good players and a bunch of crap. LBJ, Wade and Bosh can only do so much, the scrubs gotta contribute with more than just hustle:facepalm Again, you can get away with that vs the Pacers of the world but not against Boston, OKC, Spurs etc...

Bookmarking this thread to show you guys I wasn't wrong when the Heat eventually lose.

k :lol

MetsPackers
02-13-2013, 12:12 AM
Lmao I had just recently begun realizing what idiots "theman" and "tpols" were, and lo and behold, her they are with a bunch of retarded ass posts in this thread :roll:

Probably just trying to bring down Lebron so they can get some sweet lovin from Kobe. tpols was even quoted as saying "I'd love a big shot of man juice from Kobe any day"

Stay f@ggots my friends :roll:

ihoopallday
02-13-2013, 12:57 AM
At least he came in here and accepted he was wrong.

Anyways, lets be honest here. Before that game 6 in Boston, I thought OKC had the best chance. But after that performance by James, you could just tell he finally got fed up with choking and no one was taking that championship from Miami.

Fudge
02-13-2013, 01:01 AM
Such a random bump. :wtf: