Bayern vs Chelsea: The champions league final

[Nick Young]

Predictions?

3-2 Chelsea, David Luiz nets the winner:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
http://bluechampions.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Chelsea-FA-Cup-2012-600x369.jpg

Bayern just lost to Dortmund 5-2 they are getting worse just as we are peaking:rockon:

[CeltsGarlic]

Your prediction is stupid as ****. I also think there will be a lot of goals, but shit is going to penalties!

[niko]

Chelsea 2-1 with Bayern goal coming late.

[knickballer]

Gomez is going to overpower that weak backline for a goal and Robben will score off a set piece.

Bayern 2-0

[Nick Young]

Gomez is going to overpower that weak backline for a goal and Robben will score off a set piece.

Bayern 2-0
David Luiz and Gary Cahill with the best left back in the world and Petr Cech is not a weak backline, sport. It's actually very very good.

Have you seen Bayern's backline without Badstuber?

Boateng and Tyomoschuck or Van buyten and then Rafinha?:lol :lol :lol They are so f*cked against Drogba.

[Ol Dirty Bastard]

Chelsea!

[Skywalker]

Common sense says Bayern but I have this weird feeling.....

[alenleomessi]

meh

[Grinder]

2-1 Bayern

Goals from Robben and Gomez, Drogba for Chelsea

I think they're going to miss Ramires.

[SilkyJohnson]

Neuer, Lahm, Boateng, Schweinsteiger, Ribery, Robben & Gomez would walk into the Chelsea starting eleven, but, as we all know, football isn't decided on paper.

As for the suspensions, I think Badstuber, Alaba, Gustavo & Ramires will be the players sorely missed by their respective clubs. I'd have gone with Cahill & Luiz even if the decling Terry was available. Ivanovic would have been in Ribery's back pocket and the contribution the one dimensional Meireles might have made is moot.

Who wins? Key to Chelsea victory will be how effective Drogba will be against the Bayern defence. And how they can control the midfield. Bayern will get plenty of opportunties against a Chelsea side who will leave spaces, because they're not going to defend like they did against Barcelona, which means the marauding Luiz will leave oceans of space for Bayern attack to roam in. Ashley Cole versus Robben will be a great battle, as will how the Bayern defence react to the ultimate big game player, Didier Drogba. In conclusion, Bayern should dismantle Chelsea, but this is the European Cup Final; anything can happen.

[blablabla]

1:1 after ET
bayern wins in penalties

[Ketchup]

I don't know what to expect with my Chelsea team. Heh.

This has been amazing watching them play over the course of the champions league. Watched every single match live waking up at 4.30am most of the time here in Australia. Even after getting thrashed 3-1 by Napoli I stuck it out... and somehow we got through.
I'm hoping this is our year. Everything somehow fell in place so far, and I'm hoping it happens again. Hoping to catch them on counters and see Drogba net some. We'll also be dangerous off the corners and set pieces. But then again, so will they with a guy like Gomez there.

Just hoping for a early goal for us so we can be in a dominant position from the get go.

[Jasi]

Bayern 2-1

[LJJ]

Bayern 2-1

Robben 2x. :applause:

[bdreason]

If you're going to make an official thread, at least post the time and date of the match.




And I predict a 2-0 Bayern win.

[Nick Young]

Neuer, Lahm, Boateng, Schweinsteiger, Ribery, Robben & Gomez would walk into the Chelsea starting eleven, but, as we all know, football isn't decided on paper.

As for the suspensions, I think Badstuber, Alaba, Gustavo & Ramires will be the players sorely missed by their respective clubs. I'd have gone with Cahill & Luiz even if the decling Terry was available. Ivanovic would have been in Ribery's back pocket and the contribution the one dimensional Meireles might have made is moot.

Who wins? Key to Chelsea victory will be how effective Drogba will be against the Bayern defence. And how they can control the midfield. Bayern will get plenty of opportunties against a Chelsea side who will leave spaces, because they're not going to defend like they did against Barcelona, which means the marauding Luiz will leave oceans of space for Bayern attack to roam in. Ashley Cole versus Robben will be a great battle, as will how the Bayern defence react to the ultimate big game player, Didier Drogba. In conclusion, Bayern should dismantle Chelsea, but this is the European Cup Final; anything can happen.
Too bad Luiz doesn't play like that anymore since the second Napoli game and since AVB got fired. He has since started to produce his best football of his career, is exceptionally fast, keeping his concentration and not making dumb mistakes.

The bayern defense is shattered and will be shit and worse off than ours.

Bosingwa has shown big game ability, able to shackle Messi and other good wingers when he puts his mind to it, and Ferreira has loads of experience on his side if he plays.


Juan Mata is the key man here, without Gustavo there is no one Bayern has to really stop Mata if he's played in the central withdrawn role. If Bayern goes with Schweinsteiger-Kroos and Muller at #10 then Mikel, Lampard and whoever else should be able to control that midfield.

Did anyone not watch Bayern just getting destroyed 5-2 by dortmund in the german cup final? They aren't some amazing invincible team, and apart from their attack and keeper aren't very impressive

[west_tip]

Nerves already going ten to the dozen. Some serious drinking :cheers: in store tomoro hopefully Ill be able to stand up straight by kickoff :lol

Praying for a Chelsea win, definite outsiders without Ramires, Iva and JT but lets prove everyone wrong again

BLUE IS THE COLOUR

[eppelp]

If I'm Bayern I'm throwing in van Buyten if he's anywhere close to matchfit. He can at least somewhat battle Drogba in the air (Drogba will have his chances, their is just no way around this.) and Boateng and Lahm should be quick enough to cover his slow ass (obviously he'd have to play the left cb position). Boateng got abused by Lewandowski and his crappiness in the air sealed the deal against Dortmund. Tymo (I have no idea how he spells afterwards:lol ) won't be able to take Drogba in the air at all and isn't exactly Franz Beckenbauer anyway, so I'd be willing to take the risk with van Buyten. I don't know how fit he really is though, so we'll have to wait and see.

Bayern will probably dominate possession although not to the extend Barca did, probably 60-40 or 55-45. My guess is 2-2 after 90, 3-3 after 120 and Bayern win it on penaltys.

[Nick Young]

Van Buyten is the slowest player in world football at the moment, the queen of england can probably turn faster than him. He's a creaky old dinosaur.

Boateng will get destroyed in the air, Van Buyten Drogba will run by like he's not even there, Tymoschuck would get destroyed in all aspects, Breno could have helped but is injured, Bayern are pretty much f*cked, Drogba will probably target Boateng like he did to Gallas when he destroyed him in the FA cup semi final, or Puyol in the CL semis.

[niko]

My 2 cents...
the second half of that Bayern game, those few yellow cards will really hurt them. Assuming what i read (from all of you) and what they said in the broadcast, Bayern has some real good defenders but not overall good depth in those positions, so the few people that are out will hurt them. (Which is good for Chelsea as it evens up the playing field).

I don't see any 3-3 scores. First goal is key, if Chelsea can score first then Bayern has to commit more players, and makes the counteract easier. If Bayern scores first, Chelsea needs to open up.

[eppelp]

I agree. vBuyten is incredibly slow, that why I said he has to play on the left cb position. Boateng is fast even if he doesn't offer much more and Lahm is smart enough and quick enough to chip in when he's needed. Don't get me wrong, Drogba will have a field day that's for certain, but I think what I wrote above is the best chance Bayern have to at least somewhat limit him.

EDIT: according to German media it will be Lahm-Boateng-Tymo-Contento as the back four. Oh well, it will be fun.

[AllenIverson3]

Bayern playing at home where they've been UNSTOPPABLE this season....No way Chelsea beats them.

Bayern 3-1

It sucks that David Alaba won't be playing. He's one of my fave players right now. SMH!

This yellow card rule is stupid as ****. They need to get rid of them. Even CL commentators don't agree with it. Cuz shit like this happens when young players or any other players have to miss a Final.

Platini gotta do something about it.

[AllenIverson3]

Van Buyten is the slowest player in world football at the moment, the queen of england can probably turn faster than him. He's a creaky old dinosaur.

Boateng will get destroyed in the air, Van Buyten Drogba will run by like he's not even there, Tymoschuck would get destroyed in all aspects, Breno could have helped but is injured, Bayern are pretty much f*cked, Drogba will probably target Boateng like he did to Gallas when he destroyed him in the FA cup semi final, or Puyol in the CL semis.
Stop talking please.

[B-Easy8]

Bayern playing at home where they've been UNSTOPPABLE this season....No way Chelsea beats them.

Bayern 3-1

It sucks that David Alaba won't be playing. He's one of my fave players right now. SMH!

This yellow card rule is stupid as ****. They need to get rid of them. Even CL commentators don't agree with it. Cuz shit like this happens when young players or any other players have to miss a Final.

Platini gotta do something about it.

Yeah Bayern 3-1 for me as well.

Alaba has been playing great lately, I really wanted to see him play the final the yellow card rules are terrible.

I don't see Chelsea being able to stop Ribery, Robben, Muller, Gomez, Kroos and Schweinsteger.

[ballinhun8]

How did England's best team not make this game.......




Bayern 2-1

[dunksby]

We got this, Chelsea does not have anything on Bayern :bowdown:

[Brunch@Five]

Bayern should win this, Both are missing players from their starting XI, but Bayern is playing at home after all. Plus, their attack is probably the only one that can hang with Barca/Madrid.
If Robben AND Ribery have a great game, Chelsea doesn't stand a chance. If only on of them comes to play, it's anyones game.

[iamgine]

Should be the classic Real Madrid vs Barcelona match. Instead, it's Chelsea vs Bayern Munchen. :facepalm

Chelsea wins 2 - 1 via late goal. Man of The Match: Petr Čech.

[chains5000]

Heynckes was coach for us in the past and always speaks well of us, I hope he gets his second CL title.

[Nick Young]

Yeah Bayern 3-1 for me as well.

Alaba has been playing great lately, I really wanted to see him play the final the yellow card rules are terrible.

I don't see Chelsea being able to stop Ribery, Robben, Muller, Gomez, Kroos and Schweinsteger.
Just like we couldn't stop Cavani, Hamsik and Lavezzi? Just like we couldn't stop Messi, Fabregas, Sanchez, Xavi and Iniesta. Please:facepalm

[Mr Clutch Melo]

Just like we couldn't stop Cavani, Hamsik and Lavezzi? Just like we couldn't stop Messi, Fabregas, Sanchez, Xavi and Iniesta. Please:facepalm

You cant possibly have that much luck today.

[soadrules]

I'm thinking Chelsea will win despite being a huge Bayern fan. I don't see how Bayern's defense will be able to contain Chelsea. I think it will be a shoot out though, something to the score of 3-2 or something similar.

[IlliniFan]

Bayern to run train on Chelsea in a few hours. 3-1

[Grinder]

Van Buyten is the slowest player in world football at the moment, the queen of england can probably turn faster than him. He's a creaky old dinosaur.

Boateng will get destroyed in the air, Van Buyten Drogba will run by like he's not even there, Tymoschuck would get destroyed in all aspects, Breno could have helped but is injured, Bayern are pretty much f*cked, Drogba will probably target Boateng like he did to Gallas when he destroyed him in the FA cup semi final, or Puyol in the CL semis.

Gallas and Puyol are both under 6 feet. Boateng is like 6'5" and pretty athletic, why would you target him in the air?



My 2 cents...
the second half of that Bayern game, those few yellow cards will really hurt them. Assuming what i read (from all of you) and what they said in the broadcast, Bayern has some real good defenders but not overall good depth in those positions, so the few people that are out will hurt them. (Which is good for Chelsea as it evens up the playing field).

I don't see any 3-3 scores. First goal is key, if Chelsea can score first then Bayern has to commit more players, and makes the counteract easier. If Bayern scores first, Chelsea needs to open up.

Sure, missing Gustavo and Alaba will hurt Bayern but missing Ramires, Terry, Ivanovic, and Miereles will hurt just as much. Miereles obviously is easily replaceable but Terry and Ivanovic's replacements aren't at full fitness either. Bosingwa is a decent but can he contain Robben/Ribery....doubtful

Should be a great game, I'll be rooting for the Bavarian giants today though. Hopefully it's an open game with a good flow to it. Parking the bus after scoring a goal won't work against Bayern since they've got guys that aren't afraid to and are effective with long shots.

[Nick Young]

Gallas and Puyol are both under 6 feet. Boateng is like 6'5" and pretty athletic, why would you target him in the air?




Sure, missing Gustavo and Alaba will hurt Bayern but missing Ramires, Terry, Ivanovic, and Miereles will hurt just as much. Miereles obviously is easily replaceable but Terry and Ivanovic's replacements aren't at full fitness either. Bosingwa is a decent but can he contain Robben/Ribery....doubtful

Should be a great game, I'll be rooting for the Bavarian giants today though. Hopefully it's an open game with a good flow to it. Parking the bus after scoring a goal won't work against Bayern since they've got guys that aren't afraid to and are effective with long shots.
Boateng is garbage in the air, everyone who watches Bayern knows this, did you not see Lewandowski destroy him last Bayern match? Obviously not

[Ol Dirty Bastard]

**** MY LIFE
I may miss this entire game and need to know where to find it to watch tonight.

HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!

GO BLUES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[IGOTGAME]

When is the game on?

[JtotheIzzo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZYfi_Ex_gM

[LJJ]

When is the game on?

Exactly two hours from now.

[Mr Clutch Melo]

I just read Bertrand is starting for Chelsea. In place of Bosingwa?

Doubt that or is Boswinga injured ? Wont make a diffrence, Boswinga is problay the worst player defensively. Bertrand is a talented. I like him.

[Timmy D for MVP]

Not feeling very good about this one to be honest. With all the players we have out. If we get our nose in front maybe the defense can really tighten and hold but...

I just feel like it's gonna take another big day from Didier to pull it off.

[EnoughSaid]

I'm actually pretty positive that Bayern takes this one, but I don't know. I have this weird feeling that Chelsea is going to put up a strong effort and possibly win.

[blablabla]

Boateng is garbage in the air, everyone who watches Bayern knows this, did you not see Lewandowski destroy him last Bayern match? Obviously not
:oldlol:

[IGOTGAME]

Exactly two hours from now.

thanks

[Mr Clutch Melo]

4-4-1-1
Keeper:
(1) Petr Cech
Forsvar:
(17) Bosingwa, (-) Gary Cahill, (4) David Luiz, (3) Ashley Cole,

Midtbane:

Salomon Kalou, (8) Frank Lampard (K), (12) John Obi Mikel, (34) Ryan Bertrand,

Angrep:
(10) Juan Manuel Mata, (11) Didier Drogba

[Mr Clutch Melo]

Surprised to see Essien on the bench. Mikel and Lampard arent the most mobile players either. Chelsea better not let the Bayern players get comf on the ball like when they played Real Madrid

[AirTupac]

I see Bayern winning 2-1

[IGOTGAME]

kinda new to watching soccer...what is a bigger deal UEFA Champions league, Euro 12 or Olympics?

[LJJ]

Olympics is not a big deal at all. It's an U23 tournament.

The Champions League and the World Cup and to lesser extent the Euros both bring different types of prestige to the table. You could say the CL is the highest platform where the best football is played, while the national-team tournaments are the biggest events of the sport.

[knickballer]

No Torres? Starting Kalou and Bertrand?

Chelsea fails, Bayern Munich goes gestapo on them

[kNIOKAS]

Olympics is not a big deal at all. It's an U23 tournament.

The Champions League and the World Cup and to lesser extent the Euros both bring different types of prestige to the table. You could say the CL is the highest platform where the best football is played, while the national-team tournaments are the biggest events of the sport.
I think national teams are better than clubs... Although have we seen a legit match between them? Prolly no. But EC or WC is the best level of football imo.

[LJJ]

No Torres? Starting Kalou and Bertrand?

Chelsea fails, Bayern Munich goes gestapo on them

Yeah, is Chelsea starting with 5 backs basically? We'll see how it turns out, but it's never a good idea to drastically change your tactics for a final game.

Bayern is gimped too though.

[iamgine]

I think national teams are better than clubs... Although have we seen a legit match between them? Prolly no. But EC or WC is the best level of football imo.
Clubs are better since they can hire anyone.

National teams are limited because they can only pick their own citizen.

[knickballer]

Yeah, is Chelsea starting with 5 backs basically? We'll see how it turns out, but it's never a good idea to drastically change your tactics for a final game.

Bayern is gimped too though.

I would rather start Torres up front with Drogba and drop Mata into the winger role for Kalou/Betrand.

[LJJ]

I think national teams are better than clubs... Although have we seen a legit match between them? Prolly no. But EC or WC is the best level of football imo.

You think wrong. Some national teams only have the talent to match the best club teams, but none of them can display the same structured and cohesive football.

The national teams are tactically incredibly flawed compared to the good club teams. These teams train together a couple of weeks at most and are usually a pretty poorly composed squad, and it clearly shows.

[niko]

I would rather start Torres up front with Drogba and drop Mata into the winger role for Kalou/Betrand.
Torres hasn't played well with Drogba ever. You can't put them together and hope today is different.

[knickballer]

Torres hasn't played well with Drogba ever. You can't put them together and hope today is different.

Maybe earlier in the season but Torres is really good passer and he always looks to assist others. I wouldn't start a young defender(betrand) in the midfield and starting Kalou over the most expensive EPL signing?

Chelsea is probably attempting to play bunker defense like how they did against Barca but it's going to fail. Gomez is brute and will score if it becomes like that..

[kNIOKAS]

I disagree. I think NTs play better first of that they are united under the same flag, they speak same language and they do play together (whether that would be ball dominant style of spain or discipline football by germany). Clubs are just mercenaries, with little identity too.

[Jasi]

I think national teams are better than clubs... Although have we seen a legit match between them? Prolly no. But EC or WC is the best level of football imo.

It depends but you can see how generally clubs are much more organised and NTs improvised.

When NTs have a strong core of players from the same club then you can potentially reach a peak of quality.
But that happened a lot in the past (e.g. Hungary in the 50s with most of players from Honved, or Holland in the 70s with the Ajax core), but it's difficult nowadays with the freer market.

[bdreason]

A slight breeze blows Drogba over. :oldlol:

[bdreason]

And clubs team are obviously superior to International teams. More concentrated talent, and more importantly, A LOT more practice and match time together.

[Jasi]

It looks like a game from the 90s, both teams playing very short, in like 30-40 meters.
I'm sure Chelsea will get back deeper later on

[Jasi]

Yeah it lasted 15 minutes... Chelsea already waiting in their box

[SourPatchKids]

Sweet zombie jesus boswinga.

[bdreason]

Robben is hungry.

[LJJ]

I can't believe Chelsea is playing like this. I know this tactic has worked wonders for them and got a relatively untalented team to the finals, but Bayern has very obvious weaknesses right now that should be exploited.

Instead Chelsea decides to play to Bayern's strengths. They are lucky the game is still 0-0 at the moment.

[Jasi]

I can't believe Chelsea is playing like this. I know this tactic has worked wonders for them and got a relatively untalented team to the finals, but Bayern has very obvious weaknesses right now that should be exploited.

Instead Chelsea decides to play to Bayern's strengths. They are lucky the game is still 0-0 at the moment.

I sthink they are too scared of Ribery and Robben's speed.
I agree with you though, this is too risky. Bayern will score eventually if you let them so close for 90 mins.


That should have been a yellow card for Bosingwa there

[bdreason]

Dangerous place for a FK.


If Chelsea scores.... oh man, let the turtle fest begin.

[CeltsGarlic]

Oh god how some Chelsea fans like A.Cole? Dude is an idiot on the field.

[bdreason]

Chelsea getting some good looks.

[LJJ]

Loving the interaction between Bosingwa and Ribery.

Bosingwa is like: "Look Ribery, I'm going on offense now! Better cover me!"
Ribery is like: "Ah, I guess that means you are going to let me stand here, all by my lonesome.....that's fine with me I ain't covering you".

Bosingwa's bluf called.

[bdreason]

Gomez. :facepalm



And Ribbery is such a great passer.

[LJJ]

Heynckes with the "I would have made that reaction"


And he probably would have.

[Jasi]

Horrible shot, but that movement by Gomez was wonderful. If you are able to make that in the box you're a great striker in my book

[LJJ]

Yeah he took Cahill for a little dance there with that body fake. :lol

[Mr Clutch Melo]

Just hope that Chelsea font Get the first goal , would probaly be the most boring game ever.

[Black Joker]

Ribery just offsides. Chelsea can't get caught like that again

[Black Joker]

and that was almost retarded by Ribery, a near handball in the box

[KingBeasley08]

too many missed opportunities for bayern so far

[Black Joker]

GOOOOAaAALLLL!

[CeltsGarlic]

Chelsea deserved it! fucjj

[KingBeasley08]

GOOOOOOOOOOAL

yes muller :rockon:

[Jasi]

Fair enough. Shoulda been more than one already

[chains5000]

It didn't seem that difficult for Cech IMO

[Black Joker]

holy **** Drogba

[KingBeasley08]

F*ck!

[Blue&Orange]

U gotta be kidding me

[Rysio]

DROGBA

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[LJJ]

Retarded substitution by Heynckes.

And Drogba what a legend!

[SourPatchKids]

I want to see penalties.

[chains5000]

Great goal by Drogba

[IlliniFan]

**** :banghead:

[KingBeasley08]

this is worse than 2010. atleast Internazionale was the better team, we blew too many chances today

[AirTupac]

Some exciting ass football these past couple weeks.

CL Semifinals
City vs United
City vs QPR / United vs Sunderland
and now this.

[Jasi]

Retarded substitution by Heynckes.

And Drogba what a legend!

I guess Mueller had cramps but why send in a defender? That was a sign of fear from the German coach.

And what a header by Drogba, wow.

Both goalkeepers not at their best in the two goals, anyways

[Mr Clutch Melo]

Drogba:bowdown: :bowdown:

[AllenIverson3]

This shit just saved it from being more boring than Milan Juventus smh

[KingBeasley08]

van Buyten hasn't even played since January. hes a great defender but that was just stupid :banghead:

[blablabla]

1:1 after ET
bayern wins in penalties
...

[AllenIverson3]

what a bummer for Chelsea and Drogba

[Black Joker]

bad move by Drogba there

[chains5000]

Stupid move by Drogba

[AllenIverson3]

i fucing hate riberys bitch ass

[KingBeasley08]

god damn it

[Black Joker]

holy **** Cech!

[AllenIverson3]

Nice choke job by Robben

[Bosnian Sajo]

Unbelievable save by Cech are you kidding me :eek:

[Mr Clutch Melo]

Robben chokes again:facepalm

[Rysio]

lol at bayern. only germans should be taking pks

[AirTupac]

Robben = LeBron?

[Jasi]

Di Matteo's luck is off the charts :lol

[LJJ]

At least Robben didn't choke as hard as Ribery.

[Jasi]

Robben = LeBron?

lol it's almost the anagram

RobLen

[KingBeasley08]

robben :facepalm

[Jailblazers7]

I hope Chelsea wins just to see Nick Young's reaction.

[AllenIverson3]

At least Robben didn't choke as hard as Ribery.
:cletus:

[KingBeasley08]

I hope Chelsea wins just to see Nick Young's reaction.
u should hope they lose for the same thing

[Jailblazers7]

u should hope they lose for the same thing

True, it will be entertaining either way.

[Mr Clutch Melo]

I hope Chelsea wins just to see Nick Young's reaction.
Lol 10 times more fun when his teams lose

[Black Joker]

how many chances will Munich miss?

[Bosnian Sajo]

Van Buyten :facepalm

[The_Yearning]

My stream died. Someone give me new stream!

Edit: Nvm, got it

[franchise#3]

http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/123437/1/watch-bayern-munich-vs-chelsea-----%5Bchampions-league-final%5D.html

[LJJ]

Now let's see if Robben has grown some balls and scores a penalty this time.

[kNIOKAS]

I called Muller scoring goal, I called missed penalty when I say Rubben going for it.

Dunno. Penalties now suck

[Black Joker]

i wish i had a stream on a crowd of tottenham fans and a crowd of chelsea fans during these kicks

[Jasi]

ok lets call it now.

i think gomez, kroos, schwein, robben will score- lahm will miss

drogba scores, torres scores, lamps misses. who else for chelsea?

[Jasi]

oooops

[LJJ]

David Luiz is Ice Cold.

[Jasi]

neuer!!!

[LJJ]

Lol Neuer. Earning his money there.

[Black Joker]

NEUER! wow

[Black Joker]

cech!

[Jasi]

Has Czech ever spoken a single word during his life?

[Rysio]

like i said only germans should take pks for bayern

[Jasi]

lol at robben being a p_ssy

[LJJ]

No Robben. Puccy.

[Jasi]

like i said only germans should take pks for bayern

wow at the jinx :lol

[LJJ]

like i said only germans should take pks for bayern

You were saying?

[Black Joker]

holy crap, they won

[LJJ]

Stop ninjaing me Jasi.


Congrats Chelsea!

[bdreason]

Holy ****! Chelsea is a team of destiny. Unbelievable.

[LJJ]

Robben and Schweinsteiger feel so horrible right now lol.

[Jasi]

Stop ninjaing me Jasi.


Congrats Chelsea!

lol


Di Matteo cannot believe his own ass

[iamgine]

Wow I called out all the penalty makes and misses correctly. You can really see it in their faces before they take the penalty.

[Rysio]

like i said only germans should take pks for bayern
:lol

[kNIOKAS]

Chelski won. Bayern got it to themselves after choking unneccessary

[Black Joker]

this screws over the Spurs, so i'm ok with this lol.

[Jasi]

Catenaccio wins :D

it's like basketball in the end, defense wins championships, lol

except Barca, you know

[LJJ]

Drogba and Robben getting their bromance on.


And now finally I can go watch the Spurs humiliate the Clips at Staples!

[AirTupac]

Props to Chelsea. Upset EVERYONE. It really was destiny for them to win, I mean how many breaks can a team get? So many chokes by Bayern , Barca etc.


Drogba :bowdown: :bowdown:

[824]

My favorite team since the 90s since Desailly got traded from Milan, what a fantastic game I can't believe Chelsea won that was just incredible, I met Drogba and we got stuff signed by him and other players back in 06 or something when they were at UCLA

[The_Yearning]

:bowdown: Nick Young :bowdown:

Called it since last year.

[blablabla]

fvck football
two pos clubs who wouldnt b shit without their investors win the 2 most important trophies in european club football

[niko]

Well that was just ****ing fantastic. :applause: Drogba is god.

Where's Alenomessi? Is he a Chelsea fan now?

[niko]

fvck football
two pos clubs who wouldnt b shit without their investors win the 2 most important trophies in european club football
The top teams in the top leagues are all teams that spend the most. What a silly thing to say.

[brownmamba00]

omg cech just say the word and i'll eat your balls

[blablabla]

The top teams in the top leagues are all teams that spend the most. What a silly thing to say.
theres a difference between clubs with tradition and clubs who just bought their success

[AirTupac]

Schweinsteiger dont cry nikka, your going home to this

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gp/Sarah+Brandner+Bastian+Schweinsteiger+dating+it5wH 6jcVXIl.jpg

:bowdown:

[niko]

theres a difference between clubs with tradition and clubs who just bought their success
Yes, the clubs with tradition have butthurt fans who think the fact they spend EXACTLY THE SAME amount of money as other teams is ok because their money is tinged with tradition.

So yes, very different. :lol

[The_Yearning]

Schweinsteiger dont cry nikka, your going home to this

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gp/Sarah+Brandner+Bastian+Schweinsteiger+dating+it5wH 6jcVXIl.jpg

:bowdown:

:bowdown:

[EnoughSaid]

What an awesome match!! So happy for Drogba, Terry and Lampard. Taking out Muller and then Ribery getting injured really hurt Bayern down the stretch as their offense slowed down by a lot. Those 2.5 billion euros finally earned Abramovic his CL trophy!

This has been the craziest, most unpredictable season of football in a while. Messi 50 goals, Barca not winning anything, Man City coming into play, the emergence of Robin Van Persie, and now Chelsea overcoming all odds to win the Champion's League. And we still have Euro 2012 to come! :applause:

[blablabla]

Yes, the clubs with tradition have butthurt fans who think the fact they spend EXACTLY THE SAME amount of money as other teams is ok because their money is tinged with tradition.

So yes, very different. :lol
yeah for example bayern who dont have an investor
their club president is a guy who has been with the club for more than 40years and not a russian criminal who needed a new toy

[Skywalker]

Drogba is just Godly. What can you do? Robben choked, didn't he choke the World Cup away as well lmao.

[LJJ]

Yes, the clubs with tradition have butthurt fans who think the fact they spend EXACTLY THE SAME amount of money as other teams is ok because their money is tinged with tradition.

So yes, very different. :lol

Well, he's right when it comes to Bayern anyways.

Schweinsteiger, Lahm, Contento, Badstuber, Kroos, M

[The-Legend-24]

LOL Can"t believe a team like chelsea won this shit. All they do is stay back on defense like a bunch of fakkits. :coleman:

[Ketchup]

LOL Can"t believe a team like chelsea won this shit. All they do is stay back on defense like a bunch of fakkits. :coleman:

Correction:

All we do is win, win, win no matter what.

[blablabla]

Yes, the clubs with tradition have butthurt fans who think the fact they spend EXACTLY THE SAME amount of money as other teams is ok because their money is tinged with tradition.

So yes, very different. :lol
lets say a guy buys himself a ferrari, he worked hard for that goal sacrifed his personal life relationships etc. so he can get one

and then a 16 year old kid who hasnt worked 1 minute in his life gets.a ferrari from his rich daddy

its the same with chelki and bayern or every otherclub with tradition
very different

[AirTupac]

I AM BUTTHURT

Had too :kobe:

[Ketchup]

lets say a guy buys himself a ferrari, he worked hard for that goal sacrifed his personal life relationships etc. so he can get one

and then a 16 year old kid who hasnt worked 1 minute in his life gets.a ferrari from his rich daddy

its the same with chelki and bayern or every otherclub with tradition
very different


And why do you think certain clubs have the tradition they do? They at the time were the bigger clubs with bigger money and bigger names.
Move over, stop sulking. It's time for a change.

[blablabla]

Had too :kobe:
you are not wrong
i am things like this piss me off

[SilkyJohnson]

Neuer, Lahm, Boateng, Schweinsteiger, Ribery, Robben & Gomez would walk into the Chelsea starting eleven, but, as we all know, football isn't decided on paper.

As for the suspensions, I think Badstuber, Alaba, Gustavo & Ramires will be the players sorely missed by their respective clubs. I'd have gone with Cahill & Luiz even if the decling Terry was available. Ivanovic would have been in Ribery's back pocket and the contribution the one dimensional Meireles might have made is moot.

Who wins? Key to Chelsea victory will be how effective Drogba will be against the Bayern defence. And how they can control the midfield. Bayern will get plenty of opportunties against a Chelsea side who will leave spaces, because they're not going to defend like they did against Barcelona, which means the marauding Luiz will leave oceans of space for Bayern attack to roam in. Ashley Cole versus Robben will be a great battle, as will how the Bayern defence react to the ultimate big game player, Didier Drogba. In conclusion, Bayern should dismantle Chelsea, but this is the European Cup Final; anything can happen.

I called it.

Bayern should have dismantled Chelsea with the amount of chances they created in the space Chelsea left open, and the ultimate big game player in Didier Drogba lived up to his billing. It's just a shame John Terry wasn't available because they'd have been significantly weaker with him in the starting lineup and I'd be significantly happier whenever I reflect back on the 2012 Champions League final.

Robben & Schweinsteiger on suicide watch, no doubt.

[blablabla]

And why do you think certain clubs have the tradition they do? They at the time were the bigger clubs with bigger money and bigger names.
Move over, stop sulking. It's time for a change.
bayern was always known for their good youth work

[LJJ]

but this is the European Cup Final; anything can happen.

I called it.



http://i.imgur.com/U9YgR.gif

[Nick Young]

I told you all this would happen, ******s
:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

[Nick Young]

Di Matteo's luck is off the charts :lol
Luck?:facepalm

[Nick Young]

Yeah, is Chelsea starting with 5 backs basically? We'll see how it turns out, but it's never a good idea to drastically change your tactics for a final game.

Bayern is gimped too though.
Bertrand to deputize in the Ramires roll. Di Mateo with the brilliant decision, calmness under pressure, proving the haters wrong once again by getting the tactics exactly spot-on, please please sign him up Roman
http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2012/05/15/article-1337110583660-131A21BD000005DC-397290_466x310.jpg

[Nick Young]

We got this, Chelsea does not have anything on Bayern :bowdown:
:kobe:

[LJJ]

Bertrand to deputize in the Ramires roll. Di Mateo with the brilliant decision, calmness under pressure, proving the haters wrong once again by getting the tactics exactly spot-on, please please sign him up Roman
http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2012/05/15/article-1337110583660-131A21BD000005DC-397290_466x310.jpg

Did you watch the game though? Bertrand played pretty terribly and so did Chelsea as a whole with him in the lineup.

Chelsea only starting having a bit more breathing space when Heynckes subbed M

[AllenIverson3]

What an awesome match!! So happy for Drogba, Terry and Lampard. Taking out Muller and then Ribery getting injured really hurt Bayern down the stretch as their offense slowed down by a lot. Those 2.5 billion euros finally earned Abramovic his CL trophy!

This has been the craziest, most unpredictable season of football in a while. Messi 50 goals, Barca not winning anything, Man City coming into play, the emergence of Robin Van Persie, and now Chelsea overcoming all odds to win the Champion's League. And we still have Euro 2012 to come! :applause:
This was one of the most boring Finals in years.....:facepalm

Barcelona ain't winning anything? really?? So they didn't win UEFA Super Cup and are most likely to win Copa Del Rey? :facepalm

stop talkin!

[AllenIverson3]

Lmfao at Robben choking in 2 Finals in the last 2 years.

[niko]

lets say a guy buys himself a ferrari, he worked hard for that goal sacrifed his personal life relationships etc. so he can get one

and then a 16 year old kid who hasnt worked 1 minute in his life gets.a ferrari from his rich daddy

its the same with chelki and bayern or every otherclub with tradition
very different
And then they race and the 16 yr old who got it from his father beats the other kid fair and square, and the other kid bitches he earned his ferrari. Does that make him any less a whiner?:lol

[EnoughSaid]

This was one of the most boring Finals in years.....:facepalm

Barcelona ain't winning anything? really?? So they didn't win UEFA Super Cup and are most likely to win Copa Del Rey? :facepalm

stop talkin!

Are those major trophies? I meant the La Liga or the Champion's League.

[AllenIverson3]

Are those major trophies? I meant the La Liga or the Champion's League.
UEFA SuperCup is between winner of CL and EL...so yes it counts for something. Copa Del Rey i believe is 2nd biggest trophy in Spain.....:facepalm

So yes those trophies do kinda have some value to them. A Cup is a cup, not everything is one the level of Champions League and league title.

[Nick Young]

[QUOTE=LJJ]Did you watch the game though? Bertrand played pretty terribly and so did Chelsea as a whole with him in the lineup.

Chelsea only starting having a bit more breathing space when Heynckes subbed M

[LJJ]

Did Robben or Ribery do anything? nope. Bertrand did his job. Di Matteo's tactics were spot on, that's how he beat a vastly more talented side while putting out guys like Bosingwa, Bertrand and Kalou.

He wins the European cup with this squad and still you give no credit to Chelsea. Eat shit and die, sport. Chelsea are Champions of Europe:rockon:

Nope, Ribery sucked balls the whole game and Robben failed in crucial moments, I definitely recognize that. But you can't really credit Bertrand's inclusion for that. First of all, Di Mateo didn't really change his tactics, that was traditional Chelsea. Bertrand played as a LM, not as a back. I just assumed he would before the game, because I've never seen him anywhere else. And Bertrand didn't mark either of those players, neither was either of them "taken out of the game" by any Chelsea player. They just didn't deliver and choked. Just like Gomez and Schweinsteiger. So I don't really see your argument with that.

Hell, Chelsea would have probably beaten Bayern in regulation had they played with a real left mid from the start and let Drogba go to work from the start. Bertrand really failed to feed Drogba a couple of times. You could tell he just doesn't have the intuition to play there.



But I'll happily give the credit to Chelsea though, you don't just reach the finals of the CL. Beaten Bayern, beaten Barcelona. They've shown that while they lack the quality to be a great round-robin team, they definitely have the determination and experience to be a great cup team. First London team to bring down Europe, so officially the greatest London based team of all time now. :applause:

[Nick Young]

Nope, Ribery sucked balls the whole game and Robben failed in crucial moments, I definitely recognize that. But you can't really credit Bertrand's inclusion for that. First of all, Di Mateo didn't really change his tactics, that was traditional Chelsea. Bertrand played as a LM, not as a back. I just assumed he would before the game, because I've never seen him anywhere else. And Bertrand didn't mark either of those players, neither was either of them "taken out of the game" by any Chelsea player. They just didn't deliver and choked. Just like Gomez and Schweinsteiger. So I don't really see your argument with that.

Hell, Chelsea would have probably beaten Bayern in regulation had they played with a real left mid from the start and let Drogba go to work from the start. Bertrand really failed to feed Drogba a couple of times. You could tell he just doesn't have the intuition to play there.



But I'll happily give the credit to Chelsea though, you don't just reach the finals of the CL. Beaten Bayern, beaten Barcelona. They've shown that while they lack the quality to be a great round-robin team, they definitely have the determination and experience to be a great cup team. First London team to bring down Europe, so officially the greatest London based team of all time now. :applause:
wooo I like these words.

Now comes the summer recruiting:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

[The-Legend-24]

What an awesome match!!
What game were you watching? :coleman: That game was boring as hell.

[niko]

It's strange (correct me if im wrong here) but also very gratifying that Chelsea, a team built to basically overwhelm other teams with talent played a controlled defensive style, and basically willed themselves to victories over (arguably) better teams. They played smarter, with more will and more heart.

It was fantastic to watch.

[Black Joker]

First London team to bring down Europe, so officially the greatest London based team of all time now. :applause:


http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqtv5ei5rf1qclwmi.gif

[knickballer]

Bayern simply choked.. Gomez missed alot of chances in the first half, he should have put one or two in the back and the second half he was just non-existent..
I thought Robben was good early but became a black hole later in the game. How many of his shots sailed over the net??

Mueller was the man of the match. I really like the guy. He plays extremely hard, always looks to assist his teammate and has good technical skills. Makes solid runs, good passer, good positioning, etc.

Bayern had no confidence after the Drogba goal.. In the ET they were all making passing errors, getting the ball stolen quickly, etc. Also, Why did Neuer take the PK?? Was Robben and Co that afraid to take the PK? Either way Neuer is ubermensch

[niko]

Bayern simply choked.. Gomez missed alot of chances in the first half, he should have put one or two in the back and the second half he was just non-existent..
I thought Robben was good early but became a black hole later in the game. How many of his shots sailed over the net??

Mueller was the man of the match. I really like the guy. He plays extremely hard, always looks to assist his teammate and has good technical skills. Makes solid runs, good passer, good positioning, etc.

Bayern had no confidence after the Drogba goal.. In the ET they were all making passing errors, getting the ball stolen quickly, etc. Also, Why did Neuer take the PK?? Was Robben and Co that afraid to take the PK? Either way Neuer is ubermensch

Or not. Because they lost.

Drogba or Cech is the man of the match.

[soadrules]

Fantastic match. Much better than last years game.

Although I'm sad to see my favorite team lose the trophy and one of my favorite players miss his PK (Schweinsteiger), I just can't feel bad seeing Drogba go out like that. My only regret is that I'll have to hear Niko and Nick Young trash talk for the next few months/next year.

[AllenIverson3]

Bayern simply choked.. Gomez missed alot of chances in the first half, he should have put one or two in the back and the second half he was just non-existent..
I thought Robben was good early but became a black hole later in the game. How many of his shots sailed over the net??

Mueller was the man of the match. I really like the guy. He plays extremely hard, always looks to assist his teammate and has good technical skills. Makes solid runs, good passer, good positioning, etc.

Bayern had no confidence after the Drogba goal.. In the ET they were all making passing errors, getting the ball stolen quickly, etc. Also, Why did Neuer take the PK?? Was Robben and Co that afraid to take the PK? Either way Neuer is ubermensch
Bayern didn't choe just some of their players... They dominated the game. Robben didn't take cuz he pussied out. He didn't wanna step up so Neuer had to go.

[AllenIverson3]

Fantastic match. Much better than last years game.

Although I'm sad to see my favorite team lose the trophy and one of my favorite players miss his PK (Schweinsteiger), I just can't feel bad seeing Drogba go out like that. My only regret is that I'll have to hear Niko and Nick Young trash talk for the next few months/next year.
Are u ****ing stupid ? Fanastic match? It was the most boring final since Milan n Juventus. What game were u watching? Smh

It wasn't close to being better than last years.

[bdreason]

Does Chelsea have a big payroll? I mean, I know they overpaid out the ass for Torres, but people in this thread make it sound like they are some super-stacked, buy-up-all-the talent team. :confusedshrug:



They seemed to be the underdog throughout the entire tournament, and then after they win, everyone wants to act like the just bought the title.


I'm honestly not aware of their finances compared to the other clubs in the tourney, so please, enlighten me.

[CeltsGarlic]

Your prediction is stupid as ****. I also think there will be a lot of goals, but shit is going to penalties!

Quite close!

[blablabla]

Does Chelsea have a big payroll? I mean, I know they overpaid out the ass for Torres, but people in this thread make it sound like they are some super-stacked, buy-up-all-the talent team. :confusedshrug:



They seemed to be the underdog throughout the entire tournament, and then after they win, everyone wants to act like the just bought the title.


I'm honestly not aware of their finances compared to the other clubs in the tourney, so please, enlighten me.
they spend 220million

[Timmy D for MVP]

I cannot believe they won it!

DROGBAAAAAAA! :banana:

In all honesty I was extremely tense during ET and the shootout. But when Didier buried it... I was jumpin up and down.

[Ketchup]

Does Chelsea have a big payroll? I mean, I know they overpaid out the ass for Torres, but people in this thread make it sound like they are some super-stacked, buy-up-all-the talent team. :confusedshrug:



They seemed to be the underdog throughout the entire tournament, and then after they win, everyone wants to act like the just bought the title.


I'm honestly not aware of their finances compared to the other clubs in the tourney, so please, enlighten me.

An ageing team, with over the hill superstars. blablabla can write what he likes but in terms of spending, even though his numbers are false, Chelsea have spent 180 million compared to his team Liverpool spending 140 million.
Then you look into the fact that one of Chelsea's big signings was a 17 year old, and was a signing for a future, hence wasn't even playing this year. He was 20 million.

So you have 160 million in spending compared to 140 million in spending, and he's complaining.

[LJJ]

Does Chelsea have a big payroll? I mean, I know they overpaid out the ass for Torres, but people in this thread make it sound like they are some super-stacked, buy-up-all-the talent team. :confusedshrug:



They seemed to be the underdog throughout the entire tournament, and then after they win, everyone wants to act like the just bought the title.


I'm honestly not aware of their finances compared to the other clubs in the tourney, so please, enlighten me.

Here is a small comparison of relevant data:

Chelsea spending deficit in the last 10 years: upwards of E1.000.000.000.-
Bayern Munchen spending deficit in the last 10 years: E0,-

[bdreason]

Here is a small comparison of relevant data:

Chelsea spending deficit in the last 10 years: upwards of E1.000.000.000.-
Bayern Munchen spending deficit in the last 10 years: E0,-


And compared to;

Barcelona
Real Madrid
AC Milan
Man City
Man United
Arsenal

etc. ??

[bdreason]

[QUOTE=blablabla]they spend 220million

[JtotheIzzo]

Here is a small comparison of relevant data:

Chelsea spending deficit in the last 10 years: upwards of E1.000.000.000.-
Bayern Munchen spending deficit in the last 10 years: E0,-

And this is something new to soccer?

Chelsea was a team of destiny, a win was their only way into Europe next year, they were going to come out and get the win, and Drogba is the kind of player who can get shit done.

"The best swordsman never fears the number 2 swordsman, he fears the unconventional swordsman."

[Brunch@Five]

I don't agree that the GKs didn't look good when they conceded. Both headers were placed right under the crossbar.

Robben should apologize to the Bayern fanbase though. Choking away the league title AND the CL title by failing miserably at the penalty spot. Schweinsteiger at least made a decent attempt, hitting the post. Robben's penalty kicks are just weak :facepalm
Also, where was Kroos in the shootout? Having your goalie shoot third. The whole team pussied out.

[LJJ]

And this is something new to soccer?

Yeah actually. Can you think of any other professional sports team period whose total cash flow in a decade is over one billion euros in the red?


And compared to;

Barcelona
Real Madrid
AC Milan
Man City
Man United
Arsenal

etc. ??

I'm not going to search for the data for all those teams. I just happen to know that Chelsea's surpassed an even billion a while ago and that Bayern is ran much more professionally with a solid financial policy. Rest assured though that all of them have a much lower spending deficit than Chelsea if you use the last ten years as a window (eg, the Abramovich era for Chelsea).

[B-Easy8]

I don't agree that the GKs didn't look good when they conceded. Both headers were placed right under the crossbar.

Robben should apologize to the Bayern fanbase though. Choking away the league title AND the CL title by failing miserably at the penalty spot. Schweinsteiger at least made a decent attempt, hitting the post. Robben's penalty kicks are just weak :facepalm
Also, where was Kroos in the shootout? Having your goalie shoot third. The whole team pussied out.

Neuer is a fukn stud and I don't think anyone wanted Robben taking another penalty after this game and Dortmund. I thought Kroos should have taken Olic's penalty.

I feel bad for Bayern, they dominated the game and still lose. They now know how Barca felt.

[Nick Young]

[QUOTE=blablabla]they spend 220million

[Nick Young]

Yeah actually. Can you think of any other professional sports team period whose total cash flow in a decade is over one billion euros in the red?



I'm not going to search for the data for all those teams. I just happen to know that Chelsea's surpassed an even billion a while ago and that Bayern is ran much more professionally with a solid financial policy. Rest assured though that all of them have a much lower spending deficit than Chelsea if you use the last ten years as a window (eg, the Abramovich era for Chelsea).
It's Roman Abromovich's money, why the phuck do all these candy-ass pansies care what he spends his money on
http://www.aristocratique.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/yacht-abramovich-eclipse.jpg
"Oh boohoo Roman bought a nice boat, let's whine and bitch about it and use it to discredit Chelsea's epic win against one of the best teams in the world, while missing 3 of our best players"

[LJJ]

I don't care. :confusedshrug:

Some dude asked why Chelsea is considered one of the "buy up all the talent clubs". I showed him why.

[Ketchup]

I don't care. :confusedshrug:

Some dude asked why Chelsea is considered one of the "buy up all the talent clubs". I showed him why.

You said 1 billion. Where are you getting these stats from? I've found 600 million in total transfer fees for players bought. While teams like Liverpool and Manchester United have both spent approximately 400 million.

Take into account that every team robs us of an extra 10-20% when buying a player knowing its Chelsea and we'll pay up, and I don't see exactly how we bought our title any more than any other great team that has ever won it.

[LJJ]

You said 1 billion. Where are you getting these stats from? I've found 600 million in total transfer fees for players bought. While teams like Liverpool and Manchester United have both spent approximately 400 million.

Take into account that every team robs us of an extra 10-20% when buying a player knowing its Chelsea and we'll pay up, and I don't see exactly how we bought our title any more than any other great team that has ever won it.

Uhm, the news?

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/02/01/2879167/roman-abramovichs-chelsea-spending-surpasses-1-billion

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/soccer--chelsea-finally-makes-good-on-roman-abramovich-s--1-59-billion-investment.html

Plus a thousand of other sources. You can't use google? Essentially the total expenditures of Chelsea during Abramovich comes to 1.8 billion pounds, the total loss tallies 1 billion pounds. (1 pound = 1.25 euro = 1.60 dollars btw. )


Transfer fees itself don't tell the whole story. There are outgoing transfers, incoming transfers, salaries (a far bigger burden than the transfer fees), interest (which is thankfully 0% in Chelseas case, or else the losses would've been significantly higher), and of course income. Taking all of those factors into account Chelsea has spent by far the most money in that span of any team. Like I said, I don't really care since it all just boils down to a Russian criminal losing his money. But it is the simple reality. I don't know why people need to get so defensive? It's not exactly a secret that Chelsea acquires their entire roster through transfers and pretty much makes no money through player development.

And I think I've said previously that I actually think teams like Liverpool and United and Madrid are far worse with their spending, because they don't simply spent their owners money but loaned money. But that doesn't mean that Chelsea didn't spent by far the most out of all of them.

[blablabla]

You said 1 billion. Where are you getting these stats from? I've found 600 million in total transfer fees for players bought. While teams like Liverpool and Manchester United have both spent approximately 400 million.

Take into account that every team robs us of an extra 10-20% when buying a player knowing its Chelsea and we'll pay up, and I don't see exactly how we bought our title any more than any other great team that has ever won it.
chelski spend 650million on transfer fees since 2003
pool spend 200million

[iamgine]

I don't care. :confusedshrug:

Some dude asked why Chelsea is considered one of the "buy up all the talent clubs". I showed him why.
The spending # isn't the reason for that.

The reason is simply because Chelsea did buy up almost all of their talents.

[LJJ]

The spending # isn't the reason for that.

The reason is simply because Chelsea did buy up almost all of their talents.

So you are saying buying up talent and spending have nothing to do with each other?







Okay.

[Ketchup]

chelski spend 650million on transfer fees since 2003
pool spend 200million

No.

You spent 35 mil alone on Andy Carroll, another 23 mil on Suarez, 20 on Downing, 16 on Henderson, 18 on Johnson, 17 on Aquilani, 19 on Keane, 17 on Mascherano and 26 on Torres.

That, on just 9 major signings dating back to just the 07 season is 191 million.

Are you saying that the rest of your signings in that span dating back to 07 didn't make up more than 9 million? :oldlol:
There are several other players alone in that period worth more than 10 million.

No need to blatantly lie.

[Ketchup]

Uhm, the news?

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/02/01/2879167/roman-abramovichs-chelsea-spending-surpasses-1-billion

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/soccer--chelsea-finally-makes-good-on-roman-abramovich-s--1-59-billion-investment.html

Plus a thousand of other sources. You can't use google? Essentially the total expenditures of Chelsea during Abramovich comes to 1.8 billion pounds, the total loss tallies 1 billion pounds. (1 pound = 1.25 euro = 1.60 dollars btw. )


Transfer fees itself don't tell the whole story. There are outgoing transfers, incoming transfers, salaries (a far bigger burden than the transfer fees), interest (which is thankfully 0% in Chelseas case, or else the losses would've been significantly higher), and of course income. Taking all of those factors into account Chelsea has spent by far the most money in that span of any team. Like I said, I don't really care since it all just boils down to a Russian criminal losing his money. But it is the simple reality. I don't know why people need to get so defensive? It's not exactly a secret that Chelsea acquires their entire roster through transfers and pretty much makes no money through player development.

And I think I've said previously that I actually think teams like Liverpool and United and Madrid are far worse with their spending, because they don't simply spent their owners money but loaned money. But that doesn't mean that Chelsea didn't spent by far the most out of all of them.

Irrelevant. The talk was if our team was bought. Hence insisting transfers, and that is all anyone means, since it is all that has been mentioned in this thread.

Fact is, Chelsea don't spend any more than any other big club. City have spent more in the last 5 years than Chelsea have since Roman took over.

And this team that just won can hardly be called a team that was bought for talent. If they won 5 years ago with this team, sure. This was just a desperate team that won because they wanted it knowing they're on their last stand.

[iamgine]

So you are saying buying up talent and spending have nothing to do with each other?







Okay.
Read properly. I said spending #.

[LJJ]

Irrelevant. The talk was if our team was bought. Hence insisting transfers, and that is all anyone means, since it is all that has been mentioned in this thread.

Fact is, Chelsea don't spend any more than any other big club. City have spent more in the last 5 years than Chelsea have since Roman took over.

And this team that just won can hardly be called a team that was bought for talent. If they won 5 years ago with this team, sure. This was just a desperate team that won because they wanted it knowing they're on their last stand.

:roll:

You can't source what you are stating here. At all.

I have posted sources that clearly show that Chelsea has spent more money than any other team since Abramovich took over. Fin.

[Ketchup]

:roll:

You can't source what you are stating here. At all.

I have posted sources that clearly show that Chelsea has spent more money than any other team since Abramovich took over. Fin.

transferleague.co.uk

Go wild.

[LJJ]

transferleague.co.uk

Go wild.

That's not better than the sources I posted. And not factoring salaries, which again is a far bigger financial burden than the transfer fees.

[niko]

This is not the NBA where everyone gets two draft picks a year. Any team that has a preponderance of talent that came up through them and they kept has large finances. If you recognize all the young talent, it's because you have a ton of scouts. A ton of teachers. Money to keep and follow these people all through their careers. AND most importantly, the money to keep them when they get older so they don't all transfer out. If all the players are not on huge salaries because they just started then the argument everyone is home grown adds more merit. Having a ton of home grown talent means you spent a ton to make sure that talent all developed properly.

Is it cheaper than importing? Sure. Is it cheap? NO.

You are arguing semantics. Chelsea spends more, but you are acting like Bayern is this team with a tiny payroll that made this magical run and then run into this unfair Chelsea juggernaut. Show me that line of thinking in this thread pre game.

Sour grapes. :D Chelsea won, they beat a better team, it was wonderful, you can get mad at the Russian billionaire for spending his own money all you want. And note, a lot of these big teams that are "traditional money" have breaks from their home countries, money borrowed from home banks, etc. (Cough Man U Cough). Tell me how that's better.

:cry: CHELSEA CHEATED :cry:

[LJJ]

You are arguing semantics. Chelsea spends more, but you are acting like Bayern is this team with a tiny payroll that made this magical run and then run into this unfair Chelsea juggernaut. Show me that line of thinking in this thread pre game.


You are talking nonsense with this. This Chelsea team cost 1 billion pounds while Bayern actually makes money.

There is nothing semantic about that. And nowhere do I blame Chelsea for spending or call them cheaters. Someone else brought up how they are or aren't a "buy everything team". All I did was point out that they are. Chelsea is a rich man's toy that got great by poring ludicrous amounts of money down the drain, not a team that became great because it's a better professional organisation than the other clubs.

[Ketchup]

You are talking nonsense with this. This Chelsea team cost 1 billion pounds while Bayern actually makes money.

There is nothing semantic about that. And nowhere do I blame Chelsea for spending or call them cheaters. Someone else brought up how they are or aren't a "buy everything team". All I did was point out that they are. Chelsea is a rich man's toy that got great by poring ludicrous amounts of money down the drain, not a team that became great because it's a better professional organisation than the other clubs.

We're not arguing that. Though this team isn't the team that was bought to win this competition. Chelsea have been on the back foot in terms of quality players wanting to come to us. Hell, Mata wasn't even supposed to come our way, he was Arsenal bound.

Yes, we became good through increased finances, though that isn't why this team won.

[jamal99]

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[niko]

You are talking nonsense with this. This Chelsea team cost 1 billion pounds while Bayern actually makes money.

There is nothing semantic about that. And nowhere do I blame Chelsea for spending or call them cheaters. Someone else brought up how they are or aren't a "buy everything team". All I did was point out that they are. Chelsea is a rich man's toy that got great by poring ludicrous amounts of money down the drain, not a team that became great because it's a better professional organisation than the other clubs.
This is sports, not Nasdaq. Making money is not what fans root for. Winning is. The fact Chelsea loses money to win is better for me.

[Nick Young]

Modric must be p*ssed. He wanted so badly to come to Chelsea and was forced against his will to waste another season at Tottenshit. Now we win the european cup and Spurs get another wonderful year in Europa league.

He is definately coming to the better side of London this summer, with Gareth Bale, i'd estimate a 30% chance of joining him.

Hazard-if he's smart will come to chelsea as well.

[LJJ]

This is sports, not Nasdaq. Making money is not what fans root for. Winning is. The fact Chelsea loses money to win is better for me.

So? I'm not telling anyone who to root for.

I'm just countering painfully false statements like "Chelsea isn't a buy everything club", "Chelsea didn't spent the most money out of any team, but a comparable amount" or "Bayern's payroll situation is comparable to Chelsea's" etc.

Insecurities. If it doesn't matter to you, why try and misrepresent the factual situation on this site? It makes no sense.

[Ketchup]

So? I'm not telling anyone who to root for.

I'm just countering painfully false statements like "Chelsea isn't a buy everything club", "Chelsea didn't spent the most money out of any team, but a comparable amount" or "Bayern's payroll situation is comparable to Chelsea's" etc.

Insecurities. If it doesn't matter to you, why try and misrepresent the factual situation on this site? It makes no sense.

It seems to bother you more so than us Chelsea fans.

You seem to want to make out as if we were equal on paper, and evenly matched, using this money reference as an excuse. Fact is, we were heavy underdogs, had been since going 3-1 to Napoli on wards.
Not to mention we didn't have 3 of our best players playing, and yet we still won. We were heavy underdogs, and no bought team won the competition last night.

Deal with it, and stop being so pessimistic.

[LJJ]

It seems to bother you more so than us Chelsea fans.

You seem to want to make out as if we were equal on paper, and evenly matched, using this money reference as an excuse. Fact is, we were heavy underdogs, had been since going 3-1 to Napoli on wards.
Not to mention we didn't have 3 of our best players playing, and yet we still won. We were heavy underdogs, and no bought team won the competition last night.

Deal with it, and stop being so pessimistic.

Stop lying. I didn't post anything at all about who was or wasn't the favorite. You are all just projecting your insecurities here.
:facepalm

[Nick Young]

Players migrating to London this summer:
Luka Modric
Neymar
Kevin De Bruyne
Marko Marin
Edin Hazard

OMFG new dynasty on the horizon:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[AirTupac]

Hazard to City doe like :pimp:

You can take Adam Johnson off City's hands doe.

[arkain]

Stop lying. I didn't post anything at all about who was or wasn't the favorite. You are all just projecting your insecurities here.
:facepalm

y so mad? who gives a shit how much they spent, and who cares that you are so desperately trying to show much chelsea spent, relax, ur obv mad lol

regardless, the fact is that no matter how much chelsea spent they were a huge long shot and what they've achieved is amazing, and surely one of the best runs ever in the CL

[LJJ]

Why would I be mad? I'm supposed to despise Bayern. :roll:

You Chelsea stans are too much. You bring up the whole money thing yourselves and then proceed to cry when someone posts sourced facts to unveil the actual truth. How many lies and strawman arguments can you post on one page?

[soadrules]

Why would I be mad? I'm supposed to despise Bayern. :roll:

You Chelsea stans are too much. You bring up the whole money thing yourselves and then proceed to cry when someone posts sourced facts to unveil the actual truth. How many lies and strawman arguments can you post on one page?

The chelsea fans on this board are for the most part, ridiculous. I'm not sure why you haven't figured that out yet.

[niko]

So? I'm not telling anyone who to root for.

I'm just countering painfully false statements like "Chelsea isn't a buy everything club", "Chelsea didn't spent the most money out of any team, but a comparable amount" or "Bayern's payroll situation is comparable to Chelsea's" etc.

Insecurities. If it doesn't matter to you, why try and misrepresent the factual situation on this site? It makes no sense.
It's not comparable,but by no means is Bayern a poor team that can't. You are trying to paint it like Chelsea has this huge financial advantage that makes Bayern non competitive with them. It's not true. We had this discussion a ways back in this thread, there are top level teams with big payrolls, and the bottom feeders, and Chelsea is in the same level as Bayern. they spend less efficiently and their money is more private, true. But you are trying to paint it like they can't compete and that's false, and frankly, it's just sour grapes.

[niko]

Why would I be mad? I'm supposed to despise Bayern. :roll:

You Chelsea stans are too much. You bring up the whole money thing yourselves and then proceed to cry when someone posts sourced facts to unveil the actual truth. How many lies and strawman arguments can you post on one page?
Chelsea fans didn't bring up the money thing. Look at the thread. Like ten seconds after they won there is a "they just bought it, its unfair" post. im relatively sure a Chelsea fan didn't post it.

[west_tip]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article841265.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Chelsea's+Didier+Drogba+(R)+reacts+after+scoring+t he+decisive+penalty
YES!

The single greatest moment of my life after the birth of my kids. The fact it was on German soil against a German club made it all the sweeter!

England to win the Euros now :lol

[B-Easy8]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article841265.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Chelsea's+Didier+Drogba+(R)+reacts+after+scoring+t he+decisive+penalty
YES!

The single greatest moment of my life after the birth of my kids. The fact it was on German soil against a German club made it all the sweeter!

England to win the Euros now :lol

You probably shouldn't go advertising that.

[Ketchup]

Stop lying. I didn't post anything at all about who was or wasn't the favorite. You are all just projecting your insecurities here.
:facepalm

What insecurities? My team won. :oldlol:

You're the one still babbling on going out of your way to answer every single question about Chelsea for other posters.

[AllenIverson3]

Players migrating to London this summer:
Luka Modric
Neymar
Kevin De Bruyne
Marko Marin
Edin Hazard

OMFG new dynasty on the horizon:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
You're the biggest troll i've seen on here....:facepalm

Neymar isn't going anywhere this summer and if he were to go it would be either Barcelona or Madrid. Edin Hazard n London? since when is Manchester in London? :smh:

[LJJ]

What insecurities? My team won. :oldlol:

You're the one still babbling on going out of your way to answer every single question about Chelsea for other posters.

Yes. Except I only posted things that are true while you were posting pathetic lies.

[alenleomessi]

2011-2012 chelsea is probably the most awful champion ever in sports history

[AllenIverson3]

2011-2012 chelsea is probably the most awful champion ever in sports history
Stfu already

[Nick Young]

2011-2012 chelsea is probably the most awful champion ever in sports history
LAWL your team got destroyed and your manager forced into retirement by the worst champion in sports history ever:roll: :roll: :roll:
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GOAT victory parade

[soadrules]

2011-2012 chelsea is probably the most awful champion ever in sports history

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=263383&page=7

[The Ownage]

2011-2012 chelsea is probably the most awful champion ever in sports history
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02202/torres_2202365b.jpg

:bowdown: :pimp:

[Quickening]

2011-2012 chelsea is probably the most awful champion ever in sports history

Liverpool were pretty awful.

[Ketchup]

Yes. Except I only posted things that are true while you were posting pathetic lies.

You sound like a robot. Go cry some more. Apparently links for you outlining every transfer isn't correct enough for you.

[chains5000]

2011-2012 chelsea is probably the most awful champion ever in sports history
I don't like their game but they earnt it, why the hate?