View Full Version : Cold Hard Evidence This Game Was Rigged
MASH Transit
05-19-2012, 02:34 AM
Laker fans are pathetic, their team is pathetic, and the NBA is pathetic. The line for this game was Lakers (-2.5): Lakers hit 26 free throws in the second half to win by three. 11 made FG's for 49 pts. A single fg in the final 4 minutes.
If there were ever an NFL playoff game(or NHL for that matter) this blatantly rigged, fans would storm Goodell's office. They'd call every radio station, rant and complain on every forum, etc; They'd be heard. Us? We just deal with it. The NBA should be ashamed at how poorly these playoffs have been officiated; across the board.
You think this is a god damned coincidence?
SacJB Shady
05-19-2012, 02:35 AM
that's why im saying LA might win the series. It might just get dirty.
They say that when a **** can be given, is when a **** is deserved.
chazzy
05-19-2012, 02:35 AM
Cry harder I'm thirsty
tpols
05-19-2012, 02:36 AM
Stern covering all spreads:applause:
#shutthefvckup
It's crazy dude. I'm not a Thunder nor Laker fan, so I'm unbiased. The same thing goes on with the Heat. Totally non-sense calls all of the time.
Idk if it's for gambling purposes, or just because the refs feed into the Kobe/Lebron/Wade hype.
At the end of the day though, as long as we watch.. the NBA has our consent.
tpols
05-19-2012, 02:38 AM
They say that when a **** can be given, is when a **** is deserved.
:oldlol:
What the hell does this mean?
Bodhi
05-19-2012, 02:38 AM
What was the line for this game?
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201004240OKC.html
Hermit
05-19-2012, 02:38 AM
i like warm and hard
MASH Transit
05-19-2012, 02:38 AM
It's crazy dude. I'm not a Thunder nor Laker fan, so I'm unbiased. The same thing goes on with the Heat. Totally non-sense calls all of the time.
Idk if it's for gambling purposes, or just because the refs feed into the Kobe/Lebron/Wade hype.
At the end of the day though, as long as we watch.. the NBA has our consent.
I'm tempted to not watch another playoff game that doesn't involve my favorite team.
This is just as bad as the Game 6 Kings/Lakers.
kurt_rambis
05-19-2012, 02:39 AM
so now stern doesn't care about ratings or bigger markets winning.....IT'S ALL ABOUT VEGAS BABY! GOTTA MAKE THE CASINOS HAPPY :roll:
RazorBaLade
05-19-2012, 02:40 AM
Eveyr replay they showed near the end of the game showed refs missinga foul that should be called on OKC resulting in lal fts
chazzy
05-19-2012, 02:41 AM
I'm tempted to not watch another playoff game that doesn't involve my favorite team.
This is just as bad as the Game 6 Kings/Lakers.
Right, too bad I've already proven that game 6 "rigging" is incredibly overblown
Your evidence is about as believable as me saying I just had a threesome with Jessica Alba and Beyonce
L8kersfan222
05-19-2012, 02:41 AM
so now stern doesn't care about ratings or bigger markets winning.....IT'S ALL ABOUT VEGAS BABY! GOTTA MAKE THE CASINOS HAPPY :roll:
:lol
SevereUpInHere
05-19-2012, 02:41 AM
Laker fans are pathetic, their team is pathetic, and the NBA is pathetic. The line for this game was Lakers (-2.5): Lakers hit 26 free throws in the second half to win by three. 11 made FG's for 49 pts. A single fg in the final 4 minutes.
If there were ever an NFL playoff game(or NHL for that matter) this blatantly rigged, fans would storm Goodell's office. They'd call every radio station, rant and complain on every forum, etc; They'd be heard. Us? We just deal with it. The NBA should be ashamed at how poorly these playoffs have been officiated; across the board.
You think this is a god damned coincidence?
To be fair a bunch of those freethrows were ones where OKC put them on the line deliberately in the 4th. Both teams were in the penalty early as f*ck in the 4th, made it a really bad game to watch. Harden was getting calls non stop, Kobe got hit on quite a few shots that were no calls. The game was just reffed too tightly, I didn't enjoy it.
I don't really care who wins this series, so take from this what you will.
RazorBaLade
05-19-2012, 02:41 AM
Maybe the thunder just have problems being way too aggressive with stars sometimes? Dirk shot 24 fts last year.
Snoop_Cat
05-19-2012, 02:45 AM
The biggest things to me were those tick-tacky fouls on Harden... it was ridiculous...
chazzy
05-19-2012, 02:49 AM
Blame Westbrook for jumping on the Kobe pump fake, cost them the game
G-Funk
05-19-2012, 02:51 AM
Free throw attempts in 2010
Game 1: Thunder =24fta Lakers =22fta +2
Game 2: Thunder =33fta Lakers =32fta +1
Game 3: Thunder =34fta Lakers =12fta +22
Game 4: Thunder =48fta Lakers =28fta +20
Game 5: Thunder =24fta Lakers =31fta -6
Game 6: Thunder =31fta Lakers =14fta +17
Tonights Game
Game 3: Thunder =28fta Lakers =42fta -14
Who was complaining in 2010????
MASH Transit
05-19-2012, 02:52 AM
11 FG's / 49 pts
Laker fans know this game was rigged; hence the reason they keep deflecting the conversation into something this thread has nothing to do with.
chazzy
05-19-2012, 02:54 AM
11 FG's / 49 pts
Laker fans know this game was rigged; hence the reason they keep deflecting the conversation into something this thread has nothing to do with.
Blame your stupid team for fouling so much and putting the Lakers in the penalty early
HorryIsMyMVP
05-19-2012, 02:55 AM
Free throw attempts in 2010
Game 1: Thunder =24fta Lakers =22fta +2
Game 2: Thunder =33fta Lakers =32fta +1
Game 3: Thunder =34fta Lakers =12fta +22
Game 4: Thunder =48fta Lakers =28fta +20
Game 5: Thunder =24fta Lakers =31fta -6
Game 6: Thunder =31fta Lakers =14fta +17
Tonights Game
Game 3: Thunder =28fta Lakers =42fta -14
Who was complaining in 2010????
This is why people watch the games. Noone is going to cry free throw disparity if it seemed legit. This game wasn't legit and everyone knows it.
DMAVS41
05-19-2012, 02:56 AM
Blame your stupid team for fouling so much and putting the Lakers in the penalty early
Easy there Chazzy...there were plenty of fouls that existed with no foul at all. You know this very well.
I agree that the Thunder fouled a lot this game no doubt, but come off it a little. Your team hugely benefited from some total BS calls tonight.
I wonder if you would be saying the same thing if Durant had gone to the ft line when he get cleanly stripped with like 10 seconds left. Somehow I doubt it.
Because that call being called a foul would be no different than the harden non bump on Kobe or the Gasol call..etc.
ihoopallday
05-19-2012, 02:57 AM
I had a steak for dinner. Then I drank about 8 Heinekens during the game. Well that was my night.
G-Funk
05-19-2012, 02:59 AM
This is why people watch the games. Noone is going to cry free throw disparity if it seemed legit. This game wasn't legit and everyone knows it.
http://cdn.hotstockmarket.com/7/72/469x304px-LL-72ff318b_NotSureIfSerious.jpeg
chazzy
05-19-2012, 02:59 AM
Easy there Chazzy...there were plenty of fouls that existed with no foul at all. You know this very well.
I agree that the Thunder fouled a lot this game no doubt, but come off it a little. Your team hugely benefited from some total BS calls tonight.
I wonder if you would be saying the same thing if Durant had gone to the ft line when he get cleanly stripped with like 10 seconds left. Somehow I doubt it.
Because that call being called a foul would be no different than the harden non bump on Kobe or the Gasol call..etc.
Harden got touch fouls all game. They called everything tight after that Westbrook scrum. And the 5 fouls that lead to the penalty early in the 4th were all legit. That first Harden foul when they were running back in the 4th was bad though.
DMAVS41
05-19-2012, 03:03 AM
Harden got touch fouls all game. They called everything tight after that Westbrook scrum. And the 5 fouls that lead to the penalty early in the 4th were all legit. That first Harden foul when they were running back in the 4th was bad though.
Totally agree.
But the Lakers got a few more of those touch fouls late in the game. And a couple plays is what decided the game.
So that is why I said its not fair to fully blame the Thunder....because a few of those just weren't fouls late....and the Thunder didn't get that same benefit.
If they had, Durant would have been going to the line with 10 seconds left.
So its not really a proper to statement to say it was all the Thunder's fault.
Extempo
05-19-2012, 03:04 AM
Yess finally a rigged game for the Lakers...there's been too many for OKC. About time we got one.
amfirst
05-19-2012, 03:07 AM
Laker fans are pathetic, their team is pathetic, and the NBA is pathetic. The line for this game was Lakers (-2.5): Lakers hit 26 free throws in the second half to win by three. 11 made FG's for 49 pts. A single fg in the final 4 minutes.
If there were ever an NFL playoff game(or NHL for that matter) this blatantly rigged, fans would storm Goodell's office. They'd call every radio station, rant and complain on every forum, etc; They'd be heard. Us? We just deal with it. The NBA should be ashamed at how poorly these playoffs have been officiated; across the board.
You think this is a god damned coincidence?
STFU crybaby.... Did u not watch the replay on TNT where Kobe gets foul almost every time he drives to the rim and no call. Thunders were doing moving screens the whole game while pushing and shoving. Lakers couldn't even touch on the Thunders without a foul call.
RazorBaLade
05-19-2012, 03:08 AM
STFU crybaby.... Did u not watch the replay on TNT where Kobe gets foul almost every time he drives to the rim and no call. Thunders were doing moving screens the whole game while pushing and shoving. Lakers couldn't even breath on the Thunders without a foul call.
Srsly those replays.. I mean did everyone shut off the game with 30 sec left? If anyone saw the replays of the missed kobe fouls they'd come away with this being officiated decently
MASH Transit
05-19-2012, 03:09 AM
Harden got touch fouls all game. They called everything tight after that Westbrook scrum. And the 5 fouls that lead to the penalty early in the 4th were all legit. That first Harden foul when they were running back in the 4th was bad though.
Why not be fair? Kobe gets sent to the line for getting his shot blocked, or off ball, for someone brushing his arm; yet Artest is allowed to HOUND Durant. Literally, hold his arm and jersey, push and pull on em, etc. Which is fine, it's playoff basketball, but don't let them play on one end while letting everything go on the other. Yes, OKC got their fair share of bad calls, but the value of the and timing of the calls were much different. Every single time OKC made a run the officials sent the Lakers to the line to disrupt OKC's rhythm and close the gap. In the 4th, whenever OKC would make a FG the officials would match it by sending Kobe to the charity strip. Block his shot? Foul. Deny him position? Foul. Brush up against running back? Foul. Etc.
RazorBaLade
05-19-2012, 03:10 AM
Why not be fair? Kobe gets sent to the line for getting his shot blocked, or off ball, for someone brushing his arm; yet Artest is allowed to HOUND Durant. Literally, hold his arm and jersey, push and pull on em, etc. Which is fine, it's playoff basketball, but don't let them play on one end while letting everything go on the other. Yes, OKC got their fair share of bad calls, but the value of the and timing of the calls were much different. Every single time OKC made a run the officials sent the Lakers to the line to disrupt OKC's rhythm and close the gap. In the 4th, whenever OKC would make a FG the officials would match it by sending Kobe to the charity strip. Block his shot? Foul. Deny him position? Foul. Brush up against running back? Foul. Etc.
They make up for it with Harden going to the line if someone looks at him with 1 eye
andgar923
05-19-2012, 03:10 AM
Cry harder I'm thirsty
You're gonna drink his tears?:eek:
shadow
05-19-2012, 03:10 AM
God people complaining about Ref's favoring the Lakers were obviously not watching all those BS calls Harden was getting all night long or the wonderfully 'legal' screens Perkins kept setting. It was a bad officiating job all around.
chazzy
05-19-2012, 03:11 AM
Why not be fair? Kobe gets sent to the line for getting his shot blocked, or off ball, for someone brushing his arm; yet Artest is allowed to HOUND Durant. Literally, hold his arm and jersey, push and pull on em, etc. Which is fine, it's playoff basketball, but don't let them play on one end while letting everything go on the other. Yes, OKC got their fair share of bad calls, but the value of the and timing of the calls were much different. Every single time OKC made a run the officials sent the Lakers to the line to disrupt OKC's rhythm and close the gap. In the 4th, whenever OKC would make a FG the officials would match it by sending Kobe to the charity strip. Block his shot? Foul. Deny him position? Foul. Brush up against running back? Foul. Etc.
Kobe only got one bs call in the 4th, that was the impeding one in the open court. Harden was holding him for his other foul and Westbrook bit on his fake. And let's not even get into Ibaka being allowed to hound Gasol
MASH Transit
05-19-2012, 03:12 AM
God people complaining about Ref's favoring the Lakers were obviously not watching all those BS calls Harden was getting all night long or the wonderfully 'legal' screens Perkins kept setting. It was a bad officiating job all around.
OKC was the number one FT shooting team in the league. Why? Because they get to the cup. Kobe's a god damned jump shooter and was sent to the line every single time down the court in the 4th quarter.
G-Funk
05-19-2012, 03:13 AM
OKC was the number one FT shooting team in the league. Why? Because they get to the cup. Kobe's a god damned jump shooter and was sent to the line every single time down the court in the 4th quarter.
OKC is a jump shooting team :oldlol:
chazzy
05-19-2012, 03:14 AM
OKC was the number one FT shooting team in the league. Why? Because they get to the cup. Kobe's a god damned jump shooter and was sent to the line every single time down the court in the 4th quarter.
Yes, every god damned time as in 3 times, with only one of them being a bad call. The 4th trip was an intentional foul
MASH Transit
05-19-2012, 03:15 AM
OKC is a jump shooting team :oldlol:
Who lead the league in FTA's per game. Because their three stars can all get to the cup. Jump shooting and slashing aren't mutually exclusive, retard. OKC isn't the Heat.
amfirst
05-19-2012, 03:18 AM
Srsly those replays.. I mean did everyone shut off the game with 30 sec left? If anyone saw the replays of the missed kobe fouls they'd come away with this being officiated decently
And the thing is we are used to the refs allowing Kobe to get abused, but when the haters come out a complain about fouls call. it's a no no...
amfirst
05-19-2012, 03:20 AM
Why not be fair? Kobe gets sent to the line for getting his shot blocked, or off ball, for someone brushing his arm; yet Artest is allowed to HOUND Durant. Literally, hold his arm and jersey, push and pull on em, etc. Which is fine, it's playoff basketball, but don't let them play on one end while letting everything go on the other. Yes, OKC got their fair share of bad calls, but the value of the and timing of the calls were much different. Every single time OKC made a run the officials sent the Lakers to the line to disrupt OKC's rhythm and close the gap. In the 4th, whenever OKC would make a FG the officials would match it by sending Kobe to the charity strip. Block his shot? Foul. Deny him position? Foul. Brush up against running back? Foul. Etc.
I hope u r not referring to Ibaka... because that was clearly his hand that he caught.
longtime lurker
05-19-2012, 03:26 AM
Soo you mean to tell me if Ibaka makes that shot and the Thunder go up 1 the refs are going to somehow give the Lakers 4 free throws on the next possession just to cover the spread?
Droid101
05-19-2012, 03:28 AM
Yeah, right.
Why would they wait for this game to start? Why not call more and tie the series up 1-1 to make it more intriguing for the fans?
Why allow the Pacers to go up 2-1 on the beloved Heat?
Why allow the Lakers to get swept last year?
Why allow the Lakers to lose in 2008?
Your conspiracy bullshit is just that-- bullshit.
Droid101
05-19-2012, 03:29 AM
Soo you mean to tell me if Ibaka makes that shot and the Thunder go up 1 the refs are going to somehow give the Lakers 4 free throws on the next possession just to cover the spread?
Duh. They'll whisper to Kobe to shoot a three *winkwink* we'll get you.
Then, Kobe will make it (obviously) and they'll call a foul!
All goes to plan!
SpaceJammeR
05-19-2012, 03:29 AM
playoffs ain't what it is anymore. can't even get physical anymore. kinda sucks because it was so exciting watching teams go at it. today's post season reffing is the same as regular season reffing.
chazzy
05-19-2012, 03:30 AM
Yeah, right.
Why would they wait for this game to start? Why not call more and tie the series up 1-1 to make it more intriguing for the fans?
Why allow the Pacers to go up 2-1 on the beloved Heat?
Why allow the Lakers to get swept last year?
Why allow the Lakers to lose in 2008?
Your conspiracy bullshit is just that-- bullshit.
And most importantly, why would the commissioner of the league REJECT a deal that would give LA another superstar and make them contenders for years? This whole "everything is rigged for LA" stuff should've died then
MASH Transit
05-19-2012, 04:28 AM
And most importantly, why would the commissioner of the league REJECT a deal that would give LA another superstar and make them contenders for years? This whole "everything is rigged for LA" stuff should've died then
Two LA teams being good is better than one.
Laker fans are so biased it's insane.
Second half of game 3:
Lakers from the field: 10/33
Lakers from the FT: 26/27
Almost had as many FTA, as FGA.
RazorBaLade
05-19-2012, 04:31 AM
Two LA teams being good is better than one.
Laker fans are so biased it's insane.
Second half of game 3:
Lakers from the field: 10/33
Lakers from the FT: 26/27
Almost had as many FTA, as FGA.
So every time something like that happens its rigged?
LakersReign
05-19-2012, 04:32 AM
Two LA teams being good is better than one.
Laker fans are so biased it's insane.
Second half of game 3:
Lakers from the field: 10/33
Lakers from the FT: 26/27
Almost had as many FTA, as FGA.
"Buh....buh....buh....buh....buh....OKC is going to hit 100% of their jumpshot....ALL THE TIME.":roll:
chazzy
05-19-2012, 04:34 AM
Almost had as many FTA, as FGA.
Kinda like Harden. Still waiting for the cold hard evidence of all the bad 4th quarter calls
RazorBaLade
05-19-2012, 04:35 AM
Kinda like Harden. Still waiting for the cold hard evidence of all the bad 4th quarter calls
Jesus lol his argument against LA being rigged is literally what happens to harden.
Tonight again, hes like 4-11 but has 12 fts or some shit. Guy would be serving sloppy joes if he was born 20 years earlier
coin24
05-19-2012, 04:40 AM
If its so unbearable for you to watch, why dont you fu*k off and go do something else.:confusedshrug:
Cause its unbearable all the supposed fans whinging about reffing all the time.
Who says free throws are supposed to be even? I cant stand idiots who use that in an argument. If 1 team is launching jumpers all night and the other is attacking the paint, what do you expect???:facepalm :facepalm
HorryIsMyMVP
05-19-2012, 05:11 AM
If its so unbearable for you to watch, why dont you fu*k off and go do something else.:confusedshrug:
Cause its unbearable all the supposed fans whinging about reffing all the time.
Who says free throws are supposed to be even? I cant stand idiots who use that in an argument. If 1 team is launching jumpers all night and the other is attacking the paint, what do you expect???:facepalm :facepalm Kobe takes more jumpers then anyone in the NBA.
nathanjizzle
05-19-2012, 05:35 AM
stop gambling kid
Kblaze8855
05-19-2012, 08:34 AM
I watched this game with 5 other people. 2 laker fans, 1 thunder fan(bandwaggoner but still...), a bandwaggon heat fan, and a guy I dont now that well who didnt seem to much care who won.
Didnt hear anyone claiming rig till I got to the internet.
Shepseskaf
05-19-2012, 09:11 AM
How sad is it that fans of the game have to watch it, and actually anticipate crooked officiating -- then are not disappointed when it happens.
To all of you citing stats of the free throw distribution throughout the game -- that doesn't matter. The refs "influence" the game down the stretch by calling fouls (or not calling them) in key, pivotal situations. Stats will never catch this, you have to be carefully watching the game.
The touch fouls again Harden at the end fall right into this category. In both cases, the bogus calls broke the flow of the game and gave Kobe a couple of freebies. Then there was the non-call on the over-the-back against Perkins.
I'm not a fan of either team, and I just wanted to see a hard-fought, fairly officiated game. So much for that.
The corruption is now so deep that Dictator Stern feels secure enough to do the same things over and over again in high-profile games, watches by millions of people worldwide. Its too late for anything to be done. Stern will hand-pick his successor, who will continue the same corrupt practices.
Its discouraging, to say the least, for true fans of the game.
It's A VC3!!!
05-19-2012, 09:25 AM
This is just as bad as the Game 6 Kings/Lakers.
Don't ever compare any game to game 6. game 6 is the worst officiated game in sports history due to the refs making up calls for a game 7. If i was a kings fan i would have shot all 3 refs that night and i'm not even lying. i've watched youtube clips of game 6 over and over ever since it happened just because i feel so sympathetic for the kings and how they were robbed. i detest that about the nba. they prefer ratings over a clean game of basketball. something needs to be done because this refs are downright terrible.
Dictator
05-19-2012, 09:28 AM
Those freethrows were all legit. Thunder just played too physical which wouldn't have been called at home.
Stop crying you idiot. Harden was getting the MJ treatment all night, getting calls simply for driving to the hoop and with almost no contact. It was a shame to watch, and you are here bitching about the game being rigged?
Stop being a homer. Kobe had 18 FT and was still fouled on about 5 more shots with no call.
Anyone complaining about Fts after the way Harden was being gifted bogus trips to the line by non-contact from Steve Blake, doesnt have a leg to stand on.
Just another bitch ass fan.
swi7ch
05-19-2012, 09:40 AM
LA v MIA would bring in the most money than OKC or SAS in there. It's all about the almighty $$$$$ :bowdown:
ILLsmak
05-19-2012, 10:28 AM
Those freethrows were all legit. Thunder just played too physical which wouldn't have been called at home.
lol people don't understand how important momentum is in a game and how it's easy to influence a game by calling a few bullshit fouls.
The refs definitely influence games. They definitely swallow their whistle in certain situations and give calls to stop runs that could get the game out of hand.
Anyone who doesn't believe this is either too naive or a fan of one of the more favored teams who feels that they can't admit it happens or they would be taking away from their team's talent.
-Smak
Everyone understands how important refereeing is or you all wouldn't cry about it 24/7.
Bad calls happen in EVERY SPORT because they are reffed by humans not infallible robots. If you honestly believe there is some conspiracy for specific teams, if you believe stern rigs games, etc. you need to grow up.
Guess what, bad calls happen both ways. GASP. And then both teams have stupid fans who'll cry bloody murder that their team is having the system rigged against them. IRRATIONAL.
Every team in this playoffs has the right to blame their loss on tick tack fouls or better said superstar-calls the opposition got or they didn't get, but not the Thunder!
This team is the one which get's to the line whenever it wants with Westbrook, Durant and Harden just driving to the baskets with their heads down and getting the benefit of the doubt almost every time. I understand it with Durant because he is a top 5 player and maybe it's a bit understandable with Westbrook who is also a star in this league but Harden!? Come on, he's a great player but he is officiated like he's Jordan. He get's every call on drives.
So please Thunder-Fans shut your mouths when it comes to bad calls. You won't lose any series in this playoffs because the officiating is unequal (and many idiots here saying that it is rigged, what is even worse). If you think the outcome was rigged how stupid are you guys that you keep watching? You must be knowing by now that you're team will lose if it's all rigged and a big plan from the commissioner. :hammerhead:
Euroleague
05-19-2012, 10:56 AM
LA v MIA would bring in the most money than OKC or SAS in there. It's all about the almighty $$$$$ :bowdown:
The Spurs have always gotten the highest ratings worldwide of any NBA team in the NBA playoffs. This is the dark little secret that the NBA does everything it can to hide.
Just keep that in mind, when they talk about "low TV ratings", they are talking US market only. The Spurs bring in the MOST money of ANY NBA team from TV ratings worldwide.
The NBA does whatever they can to cover that up, thus why they never cite the international TV ratings.
This way, the NBA can also pull out the ridiculous, "but if the NBA manipulated the outcome of series, then why would a small market team like the Spurs be allowed to win 4 titles".
It's genius really. You let the team that gets the biggest TV ratings worldwide win so many titles, and you also get people claiming that in them winning, it proves the NBA can't possibly be manipulating games.
Shepseskaf
05-19-2012, 11:03 AM
The Spurs have always gotten the highest ratings worldwide of any NBA team in the NBA playoffs. This is the dark little secret that the NBA does everything it can to hide.
Just keep that in mind, when they talk about "low TV ratings", they are talking US market only. The Spurs bring in the MOST money of ANY NBA team from TV ratings worldwide.
The NBA does whatever they can to cover that up, thus why they never cite the international TV ratings.
This way, the NBA can also pull out the ridiculous, "but if the NBA manipulated the outcome of series, then why would a small market team like the Spurs be allowed to win 4 titles".
It's genius really. You let the team that gets the biggest TV ratings worldwide win so many titles, and you also get people claiming that in them winning, it proves the NBA can't possibly be manipulating games.
That's a very interesting point of view; one that hadn't occurred to me before. SA has probably had more international players in prominent roles than any other team.
I've also thought that by promoting SA, and its non-controversial, "high-character" players, the league was doing damage control while backing away from its previous embrace of hip-hop culture.
ILLsmak
05-19-2012, 11:06 AM
Everyone understands how important refereeing is or you all wouldn't cry about it 24/7.
Bad calls happen in EVERY SPORT because they are reffed by humans not infallible robots. If you honestly believe there is some conspiracy for specific teams, if you believe stern rigs games, etc. you need to grow up.
Guess what, bad calls happen both ways. GASP. And then both teams have stupid fans who'll cry bloody murder that their team is having the system rigged against them. IRRATIONAL.
haha, if you think these calls are mistakes.
How come they can call a foul as soon as a fingertip touches someone side at times but then they are suddenly fallible and miss someone getting mugged.
Bad calls do happen on both sides, but I'm more inclined to believe that they give the team they aren't giving the calls a few questionable calls just to make them feel better.
All we, as fans want (or at least what I want) is the game to be fair. I don't have an interest in a certain team. I just like basketball, but I feel like turning it off when a couple terrible calls happen in a row.
There are some real genius people in the world, dude. There are people with autism that can recite pi to a thousand places. You're telling me they can't find people who will make the right call the majority of the time? They could even pay them like a million dollars a year. IT WOULD BE WORTH IT.
But they've got these bumbling old men... it kind of reminds me of George W Bush, everyone wanted to give him a pass because he seemed like he was genuinely dumb, but truthfully that was just manipulation.
If a player has bad game after bad game, they don't resign him. If a ref consistently calls bad games, they need to get rid of him. Some of these guys have been refs for like 30 years. You'd think they'd have the intuition to tell what was a foul or what wasn't.
I know I can, by watching TV, say "That's not a foul" before I even see the replay. And lastly, LESS CALLS are always going to be better than more calls.
If they only called what was clearly a foul, that would be fine with me, too.
-Smak
ProfessorMurder
05-19-2012, 11:34 AM
A single fg in the final 4 minutes.
That's just absurd. :facepalm
LakersReign
05-19-2012, 11:59 AM
I said it before, and I'll say it again. The reason why people don't pay attention to ididots screaming "fix" is simply for one reason and one reason only: they're not consistent about it. They have no problem with other teams getting "preferential treatment" from the refs, but as soon as the Lakers win a game/series the haters wanted them to lose....ALL OF SUDDEN....they start cryin' fix. Where was all this self righteousness before?
Again, they have nothing to say about say....Game 1 Heat/Knicks, but wanna jump up and down with their OBVIOUS fake outrage the minute a game or series favors the Lakers. They LOVE to try and bring Game 6 of Lakers/Kings, but CONVENIENTLY ignore all the other games where the Kings were favored. Then are actually delusional enough to think people can't see their CLEAR bias. Yes, the officiating in some games are shady. But the very idea that ONLY Laker games are "rigged" is simply quite laughable, which is exactly why people don't even pay attention to the idiots spouting that biased hot garbage. OP was talking all kinds of trash before the series started. Didn't seem to have a problem with the refs until AFTER the Thunder lost a game. Which just proves my point.
SlayerEnraged
05-19-2012, 01:05 PM
Laker fans are pathetic, their team is pathetic, and the NBA is pathetic. The line for this game was Lakers (-2.5): Lakers hit 26 free throws in the second half to win by three. 11 made FG's for 49 pts. A single fg in the final 4 minutes.
If there were ever an NFL playoff game(or NHL for that matter) this blatantly rigged, fans would storm Goodell's office. They'd call every radio station, rant and complain on every forum, etc; They'd be heard. Us? We just deal with it. The NBA should be ashamed at how poorly these playoffs have been officiated; across the board.
You think this is a god damned coincidence?
The line for this game was Lakers (-2.5):. What exactly does that mean?
You're complaining about a 42-28 freethrow descepency? You realize that not only in this series but in 2010 when the lakers played the thunder that virtually every game the thunder won with was more a discrepency that this? More over for that, Is every team that gets more freethrow attempts really the one that was rigged? How about game 2 of the 2008 finals? I'm sure I can think of more examples but still...Does more fta really mean a team got rigged to win?
DonDadda59
05-19-2012, 01:31 PM
Someone has to explain to me how a guy who is primarily a jump shooter can get 18 ft attempts while going to the basket maybe 3 times the entire game. And a lot of those calls came off the ball on extremely questionable fouls and blocked shot attempts.
Joey Crawford needs to retire.
Blue&Orange
05-19-2012, 02:04 PM
Not going to cry fix, but the game was disgusting. Gonna quote Mike Breen on Kobe:
"What a spectacular free throws shooting display"...
Present day, Pat Riley's Knicks would have no players left to play in the second quarter of a playoff game, they would all be fouled out by then.
HurricaneKid
05-19-2012, 03:01 PM
It pains me that there are actually people here that think this was officiated in a legitimate fashion. When Joey Crawford hets a second round game in a must win game you go into the game skeptical. Durant was mauled, mugged, and attacked and shot 6 FTs. Kobe drove to the basket twice and shot 18 FTs. Bynum and Gasol were allowed to pick people up and move them under the basket and swing wildly trying to tip out misses. It was mindblowing to watch a team down three with 4:00 to go, score one basket the remainder of the game and win. It was criminal. I really think the NBA could be going into a golden age and this crap really just ruins the game.
I see people arguing things like "well Stern didn't let LA get Paul". Which has absolutely NOTHING to do with this and reaks of desperation to find an excuse for it.
And its not the discrepancy. Its the fouls. Jump shooting teams should not go to the line 42 times. If you are slashing you are far more likely to draw fouls. Instead, all these off the ball calls were made, more so than I ever remember.
LakersReign
05-19-2012, 03:02 PM
(yawn):sleeping
LABean
05-19-2012, 03:03 PM
Not going to cry fix, but the game was disgusting. Gonna quote Mike Breen on Kobe:
"What a spectacular free throws shooting display"...
Present day, Pat Riley's Knicks would have no players left to play in the second quarter of a playoff game, they would all be fouled out by then.
lol Knicks. Gtfo of here with that shit.
Deuce Bigalow
05-19-2012, 03:05 PM
Someone has to explain to me how a guy who is primarily a jump shooter can get 18 ft attempts while going to the basket maybe 3 times the entire game. And a lot of those calls came off the ball on extremely questionable fouls and blocked shot attempts.
Joey Crawford needs to retire.
:facepalm
Watch the game.
In fact, Kobe should have had 2 And-1 calls on top of that.
There was only 1 foul on Kobe that was the wrong call, the clean block by Harden.
JellyBean
05-19-2012, 03:06 PM
:facepalm I love it. The game is/was rigged. Too funny. Next you will tell me that Charlie Sheen is the perfect role model.
SavageMode
05-19-2012, 10:34 PM
I always lol at these people defending it wasn't rigged and then read their username/location. "Lakers_ _ _ _" Location:SoCal/LA
I know as a hard fact Laker fans are delusional. I know my cousin who is a Laker fan is delusional af too. These people you just cant seem to put sense into them.
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