Kobe Bryant blames Pau Gasol for Lakers' Game 4 collapse against Thunder

[Sawbucks23]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--kobe-bryant-blames-pau-gasol-for-lakers--game-4-collapse.html


:rockon:

[Teanett]

:rockon:
yes, fukk pau!

[tmacattack33]

I don't even need to say anything about how bad of a teammate he is.

You can all see for yourself.

And you'll all see more of it in the future when Gasol and Bynum are not on the same team and Kobe and can speak their mind about him.

[Deuce Bigalow]

"Pau's got to be more assertive," Bryant said. "He's the guy they're leaving [open]. When he's catching the ball, he's looking to pass. He's got to be aggressive. He's got to shoot the ball or drive the ball to the basket. He will be next game."

How is that blaming him?
He didn't say we lost because of Pau :confusedshrug:

[rs98762001]

What he's saying is absolutely correct. What he's sweeping under the rug are his own struggles.

[Bladers]

Its the media... come on. They will turn anything into something to gain publicity.

[Pinkhearts]

I actually believe this guy over you unreasonable haters.

Just read some of the insane threads posted here. "Why did Kobe go into Kobe ball mode when everything they are doing is working?" Haters just want to make it sound like Kobe is a selfish ballhog who wanted to change a winning strategy to satisfy his ego. Really? Is Kobe, a 5 time ring winner, such a childish loser and so dumb?

It's obvious OKC's defense has changed, and Gasol did not step up. Kobe had to take over because Gasol didn't want to. If Kobe wanted to ballhog, he'll do it at the start, not play team ball and suddenly decide to be a hog the second half. That is insane. The man has proven that he knows what to do to win, and I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

We'll see if what he says is true. If Gasol takes control next game and Kobe won't give him the ball, you haters will have your point. But right now you got nothing.

[TheStarting5ive]

What he's saying is absolutely correct. What he's sweeping under the rug are his own struggles.

This.

[Vienceslav]

I always feel like they are going to win every game after listening him talking.
I almost bought him saying that they are coming back from 3 down against Dallas last year.:lol

[Heavincent]

I don't even need to say anything about how bad of a teammate he is.

You can all see for yourself.

And you'll all see more of it in the future when Gasol and Bynum are not on the same team and Kobe and can speak their mind about him.

Must have really sucked winning those rings with Kobe. I'm sure his teammates hate him for it.

[vegasbigshots]

Did you even watch the game? In the final seconds of a critical possession Bryant passed the ball to Gasol who was wide open... he elected to pass the ball to MWP which was stolen by Durant.... then Durant for 3 ball... IN... game over.

:coleman:

[I<3NBA]

Is Kobe, a 5 time ring winner, such a childish loser and so dumb?

yes

Must have really sucked winning those rings with Kobe. I'm sure his teammates hate him for it.
Shaq did. :lol

[WeGetRing2012]

I blame Kobe for the loss. He didn't create for anyone and took bad shots down the stretch.

[Pinkhearts]

yes

Haters gonna hate I guess

[jstern]

What he's saying is absolutely correct. What he's sweeping under the rug are his own struggles.

This

[L.Kizzle]

Kobe is dumb, Pau hasn't been getting touches all fourth quarter, and now it's on him?

He can't be assertive if he's not gettin the rock.

[dazzer87]

Wait up..............So when he passed the ball to Durant in game 2, it was a great play by Durant? BUT when Gasol did the same thing in game 4 its Gasol's fault?????????? fukkkking douchebag........:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :applause:

[Da_Realist]

I actually believe this guy over you unreasonable haters.

Just read some of the insane threads posted here. "Why did Kobe go into Kobe ball mode when everything they are doing is working?" Haters just want to make it sound like Kobe is a selfish ballhog who wanted to change a winning strategy to satisfy his ego. Really? Is Kobe, a 5 time ring winner, such a childish loser and so dumb?

Yes. Where have you been? :coleman:

[Indian guy]

This is pretty shameless of Kobe. If not for 2 massive choke jobs by him in this series, LA would be up 3-1. He should point the finger in the mirror first.

[Heavincent]

Yes. Where have you been? :coleman:

Yep. Kobe, the 5 time champion and top 10 player all time, is actually a loser :oldlol:

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

that's POOR REPORTING at its best.
Kobe was asked directly about Gasol, 3 separate times. He spoke the truth without throwing Gasol under the bus.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Yep. Kobe, the 5 time champion and top 10 player all time, is actually a loser :oldlol:

What does Kobe having 5 rings have to with being a bad teammate/now?

[Shepseskaf]

that's POOR REPORTING at its best.
Kobe was asked directly about Gasol, 3 separate times. He spoke the truth without throwing Gasol under the bus.
Seriously, c'mon. Kobe's been dealing with the media for nearly two decades. Do you think he didn't know this response would cause an uproar?

He should have made a PC-type statement, which he's very good at doing, that didn't implicate Pau in any way. Then, he should have privately spoke to Pau.

Bottom line: it should have been kept in-house, especially when an elimination game coming up.

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

Wait up..............So when he passed the ball to Durant in game 2, it was a great play by Durant? BUT when Gasol did the same thing in game 4 its Gasol's fault?????????? fukkkking douchebag........:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :applause:
don't be an idiot.
Kobe did not have a dribble. He was beyond the 3 and could not shoot. He HAD TO PASS. It was a shitty pass.
Gasol had every option available to him and he chose the worst one.

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

Kobe is dumb, Pau hasn't been getting touches all fourth quarter, and now it's on him?

He can't be assertive if he's not gettin the rock.
Gasol had the ball in his hands all game long and didn't do jack shit. HE WAS AFRAID TO SHOOT.
He was useless and got dominated by Ibaka. Fact.
Gasol had the ball plenty of times. A million touches. But he never did anything with it.

[Da_Realist]

Seriously, c'mon. Kobe's been dealing with the media for nearly two decades. Do you think he didn't know this response would cause an uproar?

He should have made a PC-type statement, which he's very good at doing, that didn't implicate Pau in any way. Then, he should have privately spoke to Pau.

Bottom line: it should have been kept in-house, especially when an elimination game coming up.

This.

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

Seriously, c'mon. Kobe's been dealing with the media for nearly two decades. Do you think he didn't know this response would cause an uproar?

He should have made a PC-type statement, which he's very good at doing, that didn't implicate Pau in any way. Then, he should have privately spoke to Pau.

Bottom line: it should have been kept in-house, especially when an elimination game coming up.
Not any different from the Denver game where Gasol did not show up.
I thought Kobe was very PC. He was gentle.
He COULD have gone off on Gasol for being incredibly passive all game and getting dominated by Ibaka.
All Kobe said, after being asked repeatedly, is that Gasol should have shot and needs to be more assertive.

[MontaHardaway]

Kobe Bryant is a joke.

its a shame he's had such an influence, and a very negative one at that, on the new generation of players(Lebron, Wade, Cp3, Rose, etc.)

a whole generation of bit*chmade players who get punked disgracefully.

I wish Durant would rise up over the league and take over, too bad they'll probably just lose to the spurs

[Da_Realist]

Kobe Bryant is a joke.

its a shame he's had such an influence, and a very negative one at that, on the new generation of players(Lebron, Wade, Cp3, Rose, etc.)

a whole generation of bit*chmade players who get punked disgracefully.

I wish Durant would rise up over the league and take over, too bad they'll probably just lose to the spurs

Yeah, they're gonna have to do something more than just play 1-1 basketball to beat the Spurs.

[RRR3]

:facepalm Kobe stans.


http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/f70e8fff3b18696e41e86b7358c9ffc1.jpg

[Shepseskaf]

Not any different from the Denver game where Gasol did not show up.
I thought Kobe was very PC. He was gentle.
He COULD have gone off on Gasol for being incredibly passive all game and getting dominated by Ibaka.
All Kobe said, after being asked repeatedly, is that Gasol should have shot and needs to be more assertive.
Anyone who's watched the games knows that Pau should be more assertive. Kobe shouldn't have answered the question directly, no matter how many time he was asked.

Now, the team has this hanging over its head going into an elimination game.

It just isn't good team leadership.

[jdem]

You own a media company who's revenue is contingent upon page views. And in that respect, "Kobe blames Pau for Laker's loss" beats the hell out of "Kobe says Pau should take more shots".

At the end of the day, Kobe has 5 rings, Lebron has 0.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Seriously, c'mon. Kobe's been dealing with the media for nearly two decades. Do you think he didn't know this response would cause an uproar?

He should have made a PC-type statement, which he's very good at doing, that didn't implicate Pau in any way. Then, he should have privately spoke to Pau.

Bottom line: it should have been kept in-house, especially when an elimination game coming up.
stfu already, jeses christ.

[RRR3]

You own a media company who's revenue is contingent upon page views. And in that respect, "Kobe blames Pau for Laker's loss" beats the hell out of "Kobe says Pau should take more shots".

At the end of the day, Kobe has 5 rings, Lebron has 0.
What does LeBron have to do with this thread? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Kobe fans simply are INCAPABLE of not bringing up LeBron when Kobe gets criticized, Jesus Christ. Talk about insecure. You guys have been petrified of LeBron since he came into the league, and have hated him since he was hyped to be "Jordan 2.0" (which he hasn't been obviously, so calm down) and you felt Kobe got "slighted" or some nonsense. Jesus paranoid as ****:oldlol:

[tmacattack33]

You own a media company who's revenue is contingent upon page views. And in that respect, "Kobe blames Pau for Laker's loss" beats the hell out of "Kobe says Pau should take more shots".

At the end of the day, Kobe has 5 rings, Lebron has 0.


Where the F did Lebron come into this?

Insecure much?

[LakersReign]

I actually believe this guy over you unreasonable haters.

Just read some of the insane threads posted here. "Why did Kobe go into Kobe ball mode when everything they are doing is working?" Haters just want to make it sound like Kobe is a selfish ballhog who wanted to change a winning strategy to satisfy his ego. Really? Is Kobe, a 5 time ring winner, such a childish loser and so dumb?

It's obvious OKC's defense has changed, and Gasol did not step up. Kobe had to take over because Gasol didn't want to. If Kobe wanted to ballhog, he'll do it at the start, not play team ball and suddenly decide to be a hog the second half. That is insane. The man has proven that he knows what to do to win, and I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

We'll see if what he says is true. If Gasol takes control next game and Kobe won't give him the ball, you haters will have your point. But right now you got nothing.


Just another case of S(ame) O(ld) S(h*t). The funny part about the whole thing is, they'll try to make anything involving the Lakers, Kobe's fault. Even when there's really no logic to support it. You have a bunch of haters seeing things that aren't there, trying to draw lines to invisible dots. Then you have another set of ret**ded haters, co-signing the same things that weren't there to begin with. Coincidentally, the other set of ret**ded haters have to be dumber than the first set of haters to buy into the delusion. Then they have the nerve to wanna try and get mad when people who know better don't take them seriously. It would really be funny if it weren't already so sad.:facepalm

[RRR3]

Just another case of S(ame) O(ld) S(h*t). The funny part about the whole thing is, they'll try to make anything involving the Lakers, Kobe's fault. Even when there's really no logic to support it. You have a bunch of haters seeing things that aren't there, trying to draw lines to invisible dots. Then you have another set of ret**ded haters, co-signing the same things that weren't there to begin with. Coincidentally, the other set of ret**ded haters have to be dumber than the first set of haters to buy into the delusion. Then they have the nerve to wanna try and get mad when people who know better don't take them seriously. It would really be funny if it weren't already so sad.:facepalm
So Kobe hasn't cost the Lakers in this series.:coleman:

[tmacattack33]

Just another case of S(ame) O(ld) S(h*t). The funny part about the whole thing is, they'll try to make anything involving the Lakers, Kobe's fault. Even when there's really no logic to support it. You have a bunch of haters seeing things that aren't there, trying to draw lines to invisible dots. Then you have another set of ret**ded haters, co-signing the same things that weren't there to begin with. Coincidentally, the other set of ret**ded haters have to be dumber than the first set of haters to buy into the delusion. Then they have the nerve to wanna try and get mad when people who know better don't take them seriously. It would really be funny if it weren't already so sad.:facepalm

This same thing happened last night.

Your argument (if were to believe it in the first place) may explain why Kobe TOOK 8 shots in the last 8 minutes.

But it does not explain why Kobe MISSED 7 of the 8 shots.

[Da_Realist]

Anyone who's watched the games knows that Pau should be more assertive. Kobe shouldn't have answered the question directly, no matter how many time he was asked.

Now, the team has this hanging over its head going into an elimination game.

It just isn't good team leadership.

The Lakers have been conditioned to be passive and wait on Kobe to deliver them to victory. Look at how he threw a hissy fit at the end of Game 2 because MWP didn't throw an ill-advised cross court pass to him. The Lakers know what's up. Play hard for 3 and a half quarters and then let Kobe be Kobe.

Kobe said through the media that Pau should be more aggressive, but that's not the mandate he's set all these years. Kobe's throwing the team under the bus to deflect away from his own horrible quarter.

[WeGetRing2012]

Just another case of S(ame) O(ld) S(h*t). The funny part about the whole thing is, they'll try to make anything involving the Lakers, Kobe's fault. Even when there's really no logic to support it. You have a bunch of haters seeing things that aren't there, trying to draw lines to invisible dots. Then you have another set of ret**ded haters, co-signing the same things that weren't there to begin with. Coincidentally, the other set of ret**ded haters have to be dumber than the first set of haters to buy into the delusion. Then they have the nerve to wanna try and get mad when people who know better don't take them seriously. It would really be funny if it weren't already so sad.:facepalm

Im a Laker fan too but you have to admit Kobe's play in the 4th quarter of game 2 & 4 cost us this series. Its just time to move on... Kobe has never had to create for others in his career and he was asked to this year. He is the greatest scorer in the league but we need another player to create shots and control the tempo of the game. Kobe will bounce back though...

[WeGetRing2012]

The Lakers have been conditioned to be passive and wait on Kobe to deliver them to victory. Look at how he threw a hissy fit at the end of Game 2 because MWP didn't throw an ill-advised cross court pass to him. The Lakers know what's up. Play hard for 3 and a half quarters and then let Kobe be Kobe.

Kobe said through the media that Pau should be more aggressive, but that's not the mandate he's set all these years. Kobe's throwing the team under the bus to deflect away from his own horrible quarter.

Exactly. And thats where some on the blame on Mike Brown goes he should have pulled Kobe aside and told him to do what's working (GO INSIDE!).

[Shepseskaf]

stfu already, jeses christ.
:roll:

This is a message board where people post their opinions. Did you not get the memo?

[LakersReign]

This same thing happened last night.

Your argument (if were to believe it in the first place) may explain why Kobe TOOK 8 shots in the last 8 minutes.

But it does not explain why Kobe MISSED 7 of the 8 shots.


Clown please.:rolleyes:

You idiots don't actually watch games then come in here, talking sh*t, making yourselves look stupid, then wanna turn right around and get mad cuz you made yourselves look stupid. Dumbest thing I've ever seen. Yeah...it's Kobe's fault that OKC fronted Bynum and Pau, forcing them to pass out of the post. Yeah, it's Kobe's fault that no matter who he passed to, they passed it back to him, with almost no time on the shot clock. Did he take some unnecessary shots, yes, but to try to make the loss all his fault is pathetic. Love it how whenever Kobe's titles are brought up, y'all are the first ones to say hpwthey're a "team accomplishment". But the minute the Lakers lose, it's ALWAYS....ONLY Kobe's fault. What happened to the team? GTFOH!!!!

[rmt]

Seriously, c'mon. Kobe's been dealing with the media for nearly two decades. Do you think he didn't know this response would cause an uproar?

He should have made a PC-type statement, which he's very good at doing, that didn't implicate Pau in any way. Then, he should have privately spoke to Pau.

Bottom line: it should have been kept in-house, especially when an elimination game coming up.

This. It's ironic that it's only the crazy one (MWP) who talks about every single one of them playing a role in the losses.

Kobe just doesn't learn. As a true leader, you're supposed to have your team mates' backs. In this situation, you deflect (as MWP did) and speak privately to the individual. Don't throw them under the bus in public especially when he himself shot 2-10 in the 4th - taking ridiculously difficult shots.

[tmacattack33]

Clown please.:rolleyes:

You idiots don't actually watch games then come in here, talking sh*t, making yourselves look stupid, then wanna turn right around and get mad cuz you made yourselves look stupid. Dumbest thing I've ever seen. Yeah...it's Kobe's fault that OKC fronted Bynum and Pau, forcing them to pass out of the post. Yeah, it's Kobe's fault that no matter who he passed to, they passed it back to him, with almost no time on the shot clock. Did he take some unnecessary shots, yes, but to try to make the loss all his fault is pathetic. Love it how whenever Kobe's titles are brought up, y'all are the first ones to say hpwthey're a "team accomplishment". But the minute the Lakers lose, it's ALWAYS....ONLY Kobe's fault. What happened to the team? GTFOH!!!!

I'm going to DL the game and watch his 8 shots. I guarantee you that in no more than 3 of them did he get the ball with less than 5 seconds left on the shot clock clock.

[longtime lurker]

Kobe is dumb, Pau hasn't been getting touches all fourth quarter, and now it's on him?

He can't be assertive if he's not gettin the rock.

You do realize that being more assertive is directly related to getting the ball more right?

[dyna]

Gasol accepted blame for the turnover, but contended that his mistake wasn’t the sole reason the Lakers lost Game 4.

"It's one play, one mistake," Gasol said. "There were a lot of mistakes in that fourth quarter, a lot of mistakes throughout the game. So, obviously, if I could have gone back, maybe I could have shot it and I would have. It's one play, obviously, at a critical time, but I don't feel like we lost the game because of one turnover."

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--kobe-bryant-blames-pau-gasol-for-lakers--game-4-collapse.html

[L.A. Jazz]

Did you even watch the game? In the final seconds of a critical possession Bryant passed the ball to Gasol who was wide open... he elected to pass the ball to MWP which was stolen by Durant.... then Durant for 3 ball... IN... game over.

:coleman:

I saw that too. Pau was wide open and normally is money on that shot. I dont understand why he passed. OKC scored, tied game. Kobe came down, took a 3 for no reason and missed. KD got the ball, took the same bad shot and made it. :(

[Lebron23]

I blame Kobe for the loss. He didn't create for anyone and took bad shots down the stretch.


Thank you. He struggled in the 4th quarter. Gasol will be gone in the off season. I love to see him play for his former team.

[PickernRoller]

Thank you. He struggled in the 4th quarter. Gasol will be gone in the off season. I love to see him play for his former team.

Gasol will be shattered when he gets traded. I send my sincere condolences to whomever picks him up.

[Lebron23]

[QUOTE=dyna][B][SIZE="3"]Gasol accepted blame for the turnover, but contended that his mistake wasn

[Kews1]

this guys delusional, not too worried about going into OKC and getting a win hahaha

[Kiddlovesnets]

Well if I were a Lakers fan Id rather lose to OKC in game 5 or 6 so that the team wont be humiliated by the Spurs in WCF. It wont be any different for OKC though, a Spurs sweep is unavoidable.

[Da_Realist]

The Blame Game in Los Angeles (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/19104608/the-blame-game-in-los-angeles)

Well written.

[maybeshewill13]

Well if I were a Lakers fan Id rather lose to OKC in game 5 or 6 so that the team wont be humiliated by the Spurs in WCF. It wont be any different for OKC though, a Spurs sweep is unavoidable.

Lol perma-ban bet that the Spurs don't sweep OKC. You can talk trash all you want but at least back it up.

[Calabis]

The Blame Game in Los Angeles (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/19104608/the-blame-game-in-los-angeles)

Well written.

:applause: :bowdown:

Nice find, Kobe going into full on chuck mode, look at the rest of the team just watching him play hero ball.

[Da_Realist]

:applause: :bowdown:

Nice find, Kobe going into full on chuck mode, look at the rest of the team just watching him play hero ball.

He was "forced" to take those shots :oldlol:

How about a little dancing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fOn57QHJYI

[Darius]

What he said wasn't too bad.

[NBASTATMAN]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--kobe-bryant-blames-pau-gasol-for-lakers--game-4-collapse.html


:rockon:


I would usually defend Pau but KOBE IS CORRECT... Pau is hurting his team by not being more agressive.

[caliman]

The Lakers have been conditioned to be passive and wait on Kobe to deliver them to victory. Look at how he threw a hissy fit at the end of Game 2 because MWP didn't throw an ill-advised cross court pass to him. The Lakers know what's up. Play hard for 3 and a half quarters and then let Kobe be Kobe.

Kobe said through the media that Pau should be more aggressive, but that's not the mandate he's set all these years. Kobe's throwing the team under the bus to deflect away from his own horrible quarter.


I'm a Laker fan, but I have to agree with this.

Kobe comes back into the game and the Lakers go up 13, then the offense goes to hell. Don't give me that crap about fronting and all that. The bigs were being fronted before and solid ball movement got the Lakers open shots time and again. Kobe re-enters, the ball stops moving, and he proceeds to take 10 of the final 14 shots.

[Artillery]

After the Clippers lost last night, Chris Paul put all the blame on himself. Didn't use injuries or his teammates as a bail out. Respect. Maybe Kobe should do the same.

[Solid Snake]

I'm done with Kobe. After 12 years of being my favorite player.

[LakersReign]

After the Clippers lost last night, Chris Paul put all the blame on himself. Didn't use injuries or his teammates as a bail out. Respect. Maybe Kobe should do the same.

bwink, no matter which one of your "sock puppet" accounts you use, we know it's you. You're like a ret**d, trying to hide behind the wrong side of a 2way mirror. Way too stupid to understand that people can STILL see you.:facepalm

[Eric Cartman]

I hate this biased Yahoo! writers. Always taking players words way out of context just to get more views. Nothing to see here.

[BlackVVaves]

Did you even watch the game? In the final seconds of a critical possession Bryant passed the ball to Gasol who was wide open... he elected to pass the ball to MWP which was stolen by Durant.... then Durant for 3 ball... IN... game over.

:coleman:

/thread.

[Eat Like A Bosh]

Kobe didn't blame Pau Gasol for the loss. The writers and reporters love to twist the words and create a eye catching title for more views.

[LakersReign]

Kobe didn't blame Pau Gasol for the lose. The writers and reporters love to twist the words and create a eye catching title for more views.

Let the haters keep dreaming up thier ridiculous theories, that nobody with an ounce of common sense pays attention to or believes. Yeah...it's Kobe's fault Pau from '08-'10 has taken a leave of absence from the Lakers for unknown reasons. I guess we can blame Kobe for the Wars in Afghanistan/Iraqi, the global economic issues, and for John Edwards trial too....right? Pathetic:facepalm

[ralph_i_el]

Does Pau call Kobe out when he has an awful shooting night and still keeps chucking?

[tpols]

Does Pau call Kobe out when he has an awful shooting night and still keeps chucking?
Whats Kobe supposed to do when no one else on the team wants to shoot in the 4th? He passed it to Pau on the PnR with under a minute left, tie ball game and Pau, while rolling to the hoop, was afraid to take it in or even shoot it. Whats he supposed to do? Seems it would be better if he just let the 24 second clock run out.:confusedshrug:

[kizut1659]

Kobe is an ungrateful bitch - without Gasol, he would not have won in 2009 and 2010 and would go down in history as an unselfish gunner who could not win without Shaq. Also, isn't it a bit hypocritical for someone who choked away game 2 and shot 2 for 10 in game 4 in the 4th quarter to call out someone else?

Moreover, its crazy how noone in the media is focusing on it but that one play in the 4th quarter WAS THE FIRST TIME GASOL GOT THE BALL IN THAT ENTIRE PERIOD. Couldn't he just been naturally surprised and unprepared to all of a sudden getting the ball after not seeing it for 11+ minutes?