James Harden is a future Wolf. Book it. (MINNESOTA'S SG HUNT)

[stallionaire]

Love this guy. He has Minnesota written all over him. Great motor, blue collar type of player, can shoot lights out when he gets rolling...

Who do YOU think Minnesota should go after?

Kahn has been quoted in saying that our cap-space isn't an issue. We can offer a lot of money.

Here's my very short list of who I want.

1. James Harden
2. O.J. Mayo

[DTreats]

He doesn't want to leave OKC...

[Fudge]

:oldlol:

Good luck with that. He's not leaving OKC anytime soon. :oldlol:

[Scoooter]

He's not Manu. He isn't starter material. He plays well against 2nd unit guys, but against the best he folds like khaki.

And he's horrible defensively. Just awful.

[LamarOdom]

He's not Manu. He isn't starter material. He plays well against 2nd unit guys, but against the best he folds like khaki.

And he's horrible defensively. Just awful.

INB4 thunders get mad

[(e)]

Don't think he is going to leave a contender like OKC for the Wolves.

[WeGetRing2012]

He's not Manu. He isn't starter material. He plays well against 2nd unit guys, but against the best he folds like khaki.

And he's horrible defensively. Just awful.

After really see Harden play this series I have to agree. His moves are drive & wish for foul or shoot a jumper like most of OKC's players.

[stallionaire]

Wait what? Do you guys really think that James Harden wants a crappy contract just to stay with his buddies?

Barea didn't want to leave Dallas, but we offered the right price. A lot of guys leave teams they love so they are financially secure.

This is their career.

The Thunder don't have limitless money, you know.

[WeGetRing2012]

Don't think he is going to leave a contender like OKC for the Wolves.

Money talks.

[stallionaire]

I bet Thunder fans will also expect Ibaka to stick around for cheap. So many dilusional fans here...

[alwaysunny]

When I think of blue collar teams, I think of Memphis, not Minny. Just saying.

And I don't see Harden leaving anytime soon with the contender he's in. I can see him somewhere else if the Thunder win this year, but if they don't win, he'll stay at least few more years in OKC.

[mans1ay3r]

Who wouldnt want to be a contending team with their buddies, but all that shit comes second in comparison to your life.

Family/career/future >>> teammates.

[Fudge]

Wait what? Do you guys really think that James Harden wants a crappy contract just to stay with his buddies?

Barea didn't want to leave Dallas, but we offered the right price. A lot of guys leave teams they love so they are financially secure.

This is their career.

The Thunder don't have limitless money, you know.
No but when your in the right situation with the right team, smart players stick with that. Barea's situation was different. He reached the top with a team that was only heading downhill after the title. He had no future with that team at all. Total opposite for Harden. It's not like he's gonna be offered a 3 mill/year extension. Presti's gonna work his magic to free up some space one way or another, and if that means letting go of Perk, then he'll do it.

[stallionaire]

We're changing the culture here in Minnesota.

For a franchise that came around in 89' and since then has produced some great moments I'd say we don't have quite the identity as a team like the Grizzlies.

Rubio, Love, and Pekovic are hopefully gonna change our culture.

Harden would be lucky to put the Wolves J on.

[stallionaire]

No but when your in the right situation with the right team, smart players stick with that. Barea's situation was different. He reached the top with a team that was only heading downhill after the title. He had no future with that team at all. Total opposite for Harden.

I wasn't aware that you were Harden's perosnal accountant.

Harden will make the right decision for his family, career, and himself when it comes down to it. Not just to play with a title contender.

Guys who pick title-contending teams are usually in their peak or a little beyond that.

Guys Harden's age (22) should be getting as much money as possible because THEY NEVER KNOW when they can get injured for a while.

[HorryIsMyMVP]

Rubio is a total bust.

[Fudge]

I wasn't aware that you were Harden's perosnal accountant.

Harden will make the right decision for his family, career, and himself when it comes down to it. Not just to play with a title contender.

Guys who pick title-contending teams are usually in their peak or a little beyond that.

Guys Harden's age (22) should be getting as much money as possible because THEY NEVER KNOW when they can get injured for a while.
Keep dreaming big guy. :oldlol: Doubt he'd wanna rot on that Wolves team. How was Corey Brewer doing there btw? Look how he's flourishing in Denver now. Wes Johnson? Beasley? D-Will? :oldlol: Please. That team won't be scaring anybody for another few years.

[Whoah10115]

He's not Manu. He isn't starter material. He plays well against 2nd unit guys, but against the best he folds like khaki.

And he's horrible defensively. Just awful.




Outside of him not being Manu Ginobili (he's James Harden), every single thing you wrote is completely stupid.

[Cowboy Thunder]

I heard in an interview 2 days ago KD saying he was looking forward to playing with Harden for a long time.

Ibaka is good, but I think the playoffs are starting to show who is more of an asset.

I'd expect the OKC to lock up Harden next year.

[WeGetRing2012]

I heard in an interview 2 days ago KD saying he was looking forward to playing with Harden for a long time.

Ibaka is good, but I think the playoffs are starting to show who is more of an asset.

I'd expect the OKC to lock up Harden next year.

Is KD gonna be paying him? They have to let go of either Ibaka or Harden...

[KG215]

He's not Manu. He isn't starter material. He plays well against 2nd unit guys, but against the best he folds like khaki.

And he's horrible defensively. Just awful.


You're right. All things considered, James Harden just isn't very good.

:facepalm

[GOBB]

You're better off hoping for OJ Mayo. Even if Harden doesnt stay in OKC, I cant see him in Minny.

[highwhey]

We're changing the culture here in Minnesota.

For a franchise that came around in 89' and since then has produced some great moments I'd say we don't have quite the identity as a team like the Grizzlies.

Rubio, Love, and Pekovic are hopefully gonna change our culture.

Harden would be lucky to put the Wolves J on.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

a team that missed the playoffs vs a team currently going strong in the wcf semi-finals and has a great shot to go all the way.

[blablabla]

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http://www.harleymedical.co.uk/media/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Werewolf.jpg


not yet

[jdm_dc_fan]

Kobe would be lucky to put on a wolves jersey too:coleman:

[ProfessorMurder]

He has Minnesota written all over him.

No he doesn't, he's actually good.

[stallionaire]

No he doesn't, he's actually good.

Yeah bro. KG and Kevin Love aren't good. Great logic, tween.

[04mzwach]

Darko for Paul George + 1st round pick, and to be fair to the Pacers we'll throw in Wes Johnson.

[PyrrhusX]

INB4 thunders get mad

Well it's kinda true tbh.
And lol Minnesota. Whatever OP wants to think. We can talk about all this money talks ********, but the fact stands no one knows what is going to happen.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

I heard in an interview 2 days ago KD saying he was looking forward to playing with Harden for a long time.

Ibaka is good, but I think the playoffs are starting to show who is more of an asset.

I'd expect the OKC to lock up Harden next year.
:rolleyes:

[CelticBaller]

Yeah bro. KG and Kevin Love aren't good. Great logic, tween.
No one wants to waste their career in that terrible franchise

[stallionaire]

We'll find ours once again. Hate on my team all you want but I aint switching form them, ever.

[LeFraud James]

What type of moron would willingly go to Minny to play for the T'wolves?

Enjoy Love while you still have him. He will bolt as soon as he gets the chance.

[WeGetRing2012]

Come to find out Harden and Durant share agents. :eek:

He might not go. Which means Ibaka will.

And they also share agents with Kobe and Dfish.

[stallionaire]

What type of moron would willingly go to Minny to play for the T'wolves?

Enjoy Love while you still have him. He will bolt as soon as he gets the chance.

He had a chance in January. Thanks.

[B-Easy8]

As much as I would love this, there is no way we would get him unless we offer him the max.

I don't know what Adelman plans on doing with the rotation, he seems to love Wes and Webster who are both garbage whilst Beasley and DWill ride bench for most of the game.

I have no idea what were going to go after, we have 2 scorers off the bench in Beasley and DWill but Adelman doesn't seem to like there isolation scoring so im assuming we will go after a shooter/defender.

[SpaceJammeR]

lmao came into this thread looking for a pic of harden photoshopped as a real werewolf cuz of his beard.

[Trentknicks]

I bet Thunder fans will also expect Ibaka to stick around for cheap. So many dilusional fans here...
1. Get an education.
2. You are one of the worst posters here, why the **** would Harden go to the Wolves? They don't have endless amounts of cap space and he would probably go to a more desirable destination i.e. somewhere that isn't a total dump and freezing all the time
3. Ibaka isn't getting offered a max contract, he will be cheaper than most people think. His shot blocking ability overrates him somewhat.

[Fiasco]

I bet Thunder fans will also expect Ibaka to stick around for cheap. So many dilusional fans here...

The only delusional person here is you.

[kumquat]

I wasn't aware that you were Harden's perosnal accountant.

Harden will make the right decision for his family, career, and himself when it comes down to it. Not just to play with a title contender.

Guys who pick title-contending teams are usually in their peak or a little beyond that.

Guys Harden's age (22) should be getting as much money as possible because THEY NEVER KNOW when they can get injured for a while.

His rookie contract after 4 years will have earned him 17.6 mil....that's a hell of a lot of money.

[ihatetimthomas]

His rookie contract after 4 years will have earned him 17.6 mil....that's a hell of a lot of money.

So that means he is willing to take much less than his market value?

You have a limited career in the NBA. How often do you see guys not maximize what they can possibly earn? It happens sometimes but those guys don't take a lot less than their market value.

17 mil may seem like a lot to you and I, but thse NBA stars are maximizing their worth. He has maybe 2 nice contracts in his career. 99% of guys will look to earn the max they can, Harden is no different.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Harden will average 7ppg in WCF shooting 34% from the field, Spurs sweep the series, and then OKC fans start to bash Harden for choking in this series.
:rockon:

[ThunderKat]

They been saying around here that Presti is going to keep Harden, Durant and Westbrook as the key core group. The guy who will be tough to keep will be Ibaka.. depending upon his financial demands.

[maybeshewill13]

They been saying around here that Presti is going to keep Harden, Durant and Westbrook as the key core group. The guy who will be tough to keep will be Ibaka.. depending upon his financial demands.

This is what I see happening too. Harden won't go anywhere.. but holding onto Ibaka might be a problem.. depending on the kinds of offers he gets. We'll have to amnesty Perkins most likely though.

[TheMan]

Harden isn't leaving to join a shit organization, when's the last time Minny signed a big FA:lol

Players leave Minnesota, not join:oldlol:

[Fiba basketball]

Minny should get Caroll from Real Madrid as their second sg . This guy had 40 ppg in college but isnt playing in NBA because he is short for sg and is bad defender . He is best shooter in Europe , he was best scorer in Spanish league ( best domestic league in Europe ) , yestarday he played only 5 minutes in the first half and scored 15 points ( 3/3 for 3 , at the end of the game he was 4/4 for 3 and had 20 points ) and Reals pgs arent good at passing as Rubio so he would have more chances to shoot if he comes to minny . I know he cant be star player anywhere but he can play 15 min and score a lot .

[jbryan1984]

Is Minny tampering again?:no:

[amfirst]

Money is more important then working with your friends. lol They ain't the Lakers, it's OKH. What the hell can u do there. Sleep?

[Qwyjibo]

If he reaches restricted free agency, I hope the Raptors throw a max deal at him. Force OKC to match if they want him. Harden shouldn't be settling for anything less in extension talks with the Thunder.

[stallionaire]

If he reaches restricted free agency, I hope the Raptors throw a max deal at him. Force OKC to match if they want him. Harden shouldn't be settling for anything less in extension talks with the Thunder.

Everyone thinks the NBA is about loyalty. It's hilarious.

This is a business, folks.

[DStebb716]

He's not Manu. He isn't starter material. He plays well against 2nd unit guys, but against the best he folds like khaki.

And he's horrible defensively. Just awful.

^Doesn't watch NBA games. He gets starter minutes, which means he plays against first team guys just as much as starters do.

[DStebb716]

If he reaches restricted free agency, I hope the Raptors throw a max deal at him. Force OKC to match if they want him. Harden shouldn't be settling for anything less in extension talks with the Thunder.

James Harden on a max deal would be one of the only contracts worse than Amar'e's.

[Qwyjibo]

James Harden on a max deal would be one of the only contracts worse than Amar'e's.
Yes because signing a hyper-efficient scoring guard at age 24 (that's what he'll be if he hits free agency right?) for pretty much all his prime years is a bad move. I especially like the "he's not worth $15 million, maybe $11-12 million!" as if that extra ~$4 million can be used on an effective player.

:rolleyes:

Harden's efficiency will probably drop a bit if his usage increases on a bad team but given how good he is now, that's a minor issue. His skill-set of being a great perimeter shooter and an aggressive player who can create his own offense, draw fouls and finish at the rim should translate to being a solid #1 scoring option on any of the bad teams in the NBA. He's basically a slightly better version of what Joe Johnson was in Phoenix.

If OKC doesn't give him one, James Harden should and will get max offers from several teams.

[Crown&Coke]

:lol

posters going hard against this idea :roll:

one, anyone saying Harden aint worth the loot is crazy. He is a playmaker who gets to the foul line, he's not taking jumpers and them fouling him, he is putting his head down and (going left) gets to the rim almost at ease.

And he's a beyond solid defender, strong and quick

but this is a little premature. OKC has to terribly mess up his extension talks before this is even a question, if they throw 50mil at him, he might just sign it. 50 over 4 is what I'm expecting. Now if OKC balks becuase they can't pay everyone, thats going to be the question. Ibaka looking at (at least) Deandre Jordan type money

They got Goatbrook and KD at the max, Perk at about 8, now Ibaka and Beard up next at what Im figuring is 10 each (low end), everyone else can see their way to the door. And considering how well Presti has done, I don't expect him to mess this up

[chips93]

I bet Thunder fans will also expect Ibaka to stick around for cheap. So many dilusional fans here...

says the fan who expects a free agent to pass up a way better chance to win rings, better weather, for a marginal pay increase

[SunsCaptain]

says the fan who expects a free agent to pass up a way better chance to win rings, better weather, for a marginal pay increase

T-wolves will be very solid in the next few years. No training camp with this young team and coach hurt them. With Harden they will be pretty deadly.

And I take it you have never been to Minnesota?

It is Beautiful and the city aint bad.

Nothing like booz cruizing on the Lakes in the summer time.

Its just like anywhere else weather related.

[Bigsmoke]

i dont see that happening.

[DuMa]

if Harden gets Joe Johnson money, i'll be pissed that we went through that lockout for nothing. we're back to square 1

[stallionaire]

Bump.

[KDthunderup]

Thunder will re-sign Harden before he hits the free agency

[KGMN]

Can people please stop with the weather argument? Forever, please? The weather here in Minnesota is actually not bad, and nobody will decide against playing for the Wolves because of the weather.

I don't think Harden will come to Minnesota, although that would be really awesome. The Thunder will probably do all in their ability to keep Harden, and the Wolves don't have THAT much cap space for the next season to greatly influence his decision.

[50inchvertical]

Can people please stop with the weather argument? Forever, please? The weather here in Minnesota is actually not bad, and nobody will decide against playing for the Wolves because of the weather.

I don't think Harden will come to Minnesota, although that would be really awesome. The Thunder will probably do all in their ability to keep Harden, and the Wolves don't have THAT much cap space for the next season to greatly influence his decision.
In fairness, dude is from LA. It has been greatly discussed whether we have to lose 1 of Harden and Ibaka, maybe waive Perk, but also Bennett has said in an interview he would go over the cap to keep the core together.

I agree, he deserves 10mil+ type offers. 23 year old, playoff tested already at that age, amazingly efficient (1.7ppg per shot), can play either guard spot, defends when he wants, gets you 4 or 5 assists, dude has a few all star games in his future IMO.

I think Presti has a plan though. He will probably sign one, then flip the other (of Harden/Ibaka) for a lottery pick to get a cheap rookie contract replacement version in the 14 draft.

There are bad teams looking to turn the corner into becoming playoff teams who have no need for another rookie and would take either.

I think don't sleep on UTAH as a team who can sneak in and make a big play for him

[Dwyane Rose]

I'll bump this thread once James Harden retires.

[stallionaire]

Harden looks like a werewolf.

[kumquat]

Harden looks like a werewolf.

What an insightful bump.

[Kblaze8855]

The weather will always count. Even if Minnesota isnt that bad....there is the assumption that it is. Just feels like an awful weather city. People who dont live there would assume it is even if they have visited and it was ok for the night of a game. Ive been places like Texas that were not that hot when I was there...but it still feels....like texas is hot. And if I wanted to avoid heat...I wouldnt move there.

That said...I think he stays in Oklahoma for this first deal and maybe bolts next time. Everyone signs the first deal where they are.

Just about everyone at least.

Though perfect situations have been walked out on before. Joe Johnson on Phoenix for example.

[UtahJazzFan88]

Weather wise, I'd rather live in Minneapolis than Oklahoma City, that is unless you love seeing twisters every day in April and May, but I think it would get old after a while. :oldlol:

[NumberSix]

He doesn't want to leave OKC...
Yeah, but he want's that $$$ too.

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

In other news: Dwight Howard has agreed to be traded to Minny.
They will have a core of:
Rubio
James Harden
Beasley
Kevin Love
DHoward

They are sending to Orlando: Pekovic, Derrick Williams and Wesley Johnson.

FURTHER: Kevin Garnett has decided he wants to end his career where it began. He agrees to take the vets minimum to come off the bench for Love and DHoward.

[04mzwach]

In other news: Dwight Howard has agreed to be traded to Minny.
They will have a core of:
Rubio
James Harden
Beasley
Kevin Love
DHoward

They are sending to Orlando: Pekovic, Derrick Williams and Wesley Johnson.

FURTHER: Kevin Garnett has decided he wants to end his career where it began. He agrees to take the vets minimum to come off the bench for Love and DHoward.
:bowdown: YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! OH YEAH!!! YEAH!! THAT IS THREAD WORTHY. MAKE A THREAD! YOU ARE A TRUE INSIDER! THANK YOU! :applause:

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

:bowdown: YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! OH YEAH!!! YEAH!! THAT IS THREAD WORTHY. MAKE A THREAD! YOU ARE A TRUE INSIDER! THANK YOU! :applause:
One does what one can.

Seriously though, don't you think a Love/Howard combo would be OUTSTANDING considering that Love is a really great outside-shooting PF?
And with Rubio dishing the ball....

Seriously, if Howard wants to win big, Minny would be a great option, imo. Plus, they have real assets to trade.

[LA_Showtime]

Harden looks like a terrorist. :coleman:

[midatlantic09]

Don't think he is going to leave a contender like OKC for the Wolves.

LOL are you kidding me? That's the kind of mentality guys who have already made a lot of money have; not guy's who are currently on a rookie contract. His top priority right now is probably to secure as large of a contract as possible as pro athletes have a very small window to make as much money as possible.

I suppose it's possible he'll stay in OKC if another team only offers him slightly more than OKC (like $5-6 million or less), but if he gets offered 4 years/65 million from another team and something like 4 years/50 million from OKC, he'll be gone.

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

LOL are you kidding me? That's the kind of mentality guys who have already made a lot of money have; not guy's who are currently on a rookie contract. His top priority right now is probably to secure as large of a contract as possible as pro athletes have a very small window to make as much money as possible.

I suppose it's possible he'll stay in OKC if another team only offers him slightly more than OKC (like $6-7 million or less), but if he gets offered 4 years/65 million from another team and something like 4 years/50 million from OKC, he'll be gone.
yep. esp if they win the Championship this year

[OKCThunderUP]

Minny has a better chance of landing Eric Gordon than they do Harden.

[ukballer]

Harden will average 7ppg in WCF shooting 34% from the field, Spurs sweep the series, and then OKC fans start to bash Harden for choking in this series.
:rockon:

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[stallionaire]

BUMP because a lot of morons didn't think he'd leave OKC.

[DStebb716]

BUMP because some moron guaranteed he would be a Wolf.

[bluechox2]

no chance of signing with the paperpups

[Nick Young]

:oldlol:

Good luck with that. He's not leaving OKC anytime soon. :oldlol:
:banana: :banana: :banana:

[Mr. Jabbar]

Wait what? Do you guys really think that James Harden wants a crappy contract just to stay with his buddies?

Barea didn't want to leave Dallas, but we offered the right price. A lot of guys leave teams they love so they are financially secure.

This is their career.

The Thunder don't have limitless money, you know.

the win is strong with this one.

[SpecialQue]

So you want a pat on your back because the title of your thread turned out to be wrong? Congrats on being an idiot, then.

[FireMcFailPlease]

shved> harden

[stallionaire]

Lol SpecialQue has got a personal vendetta for me. Dude can't stand me because I troll him 90% of the time with the shit I post. The point is you dumb ****s didn't think Harden would get moved from the Thunder due to contract negotiation issues. Next.

[D-Rose]

:oldlol:

Good luck with that. He's not leaving OKC anytime soon. :oldlol:
:eek:

[Fiasco]

Lol SpecialQue has got a personal vendetta for me. Dude can't stand me because I troll him 90% of the time with the shit I post. The point is you dumb ****s didn't think Harden would get moved from the Thunder due to contract negotiation issues. Next.

No, the real point is you are a moron.

[Whoah10115]

Didn't OP say Harden was overrated?



So why would you brag about getting him?