With the Heat-Pacers series tied 2-2, who do you think will advance?

[StateOfMind12]

As the thread title says, with the Heat-Pacers series tied 2-2, who do you think will advance to the ECF?

[1987_Lakers]

Even when they were down 2-1 I still thought Miami had a chance to win the series, now that it is 2-2 you have to give the advantage to Miami.

[albas89]

Miami in 6.

[Booz Vivic]

Miami in 6 or Pacers in 7.

[StateOfMind12]

Even when they were down 2-1 I still thought Miami had a chance to win the series, now that it is 2-2 you have to give the advantage to Miami.
I would say Miami has the advantage right now especially with HCA but I'm not sure if they will be able to win the series though. I'm really not sure if LeBron, Wade, and Haslem (or one role player) will be able to recreate their production and performance from today's game for two more games or the rest of the series. I'm expecting that Bosh is out for the series but if he does come back then the Heat will definitely win the series unless he comes back as a liability instead.

Game 5 will be the game that decides the series in my opinion although the series could still go to 7 but the Heat would have the major advantage if it goes to a 7th game since the Pacers are inexperienced.

[TheMan]

Overall, it's not a great sign if you need your stars to go big time ham to pull out wins in the second round, even if Bosh comes back healthy and contributes (big if), the role players still gotta play better because in the next rounds, teams are gonna be tougher to beat.

Miami in 7

[icewill36]

is bosh coming back ? hoprfully this win can give miami role players confidence so they can actually make some shots

[Velocirap31]

Any more word on Bosh lately? The ESPN guys just said 'if' he comes back in these playoffs.

[D.J.]

I say the home team wins out at this point, but Miami will have problems next round(especially against Boston). If you need LeBron and Wade to score 70 and have a role player put up 14 on nearly perfect shooting just to win by 8 points, you're in trouble. They may be able to get away with it against Indiana, but not sure against Boston or Philly and definitely not against San Antonio or OKC.

[Kingwillball]

Miami in 6 or Pacers in 7.


huh ? Heat are not losing gm 7 at home.. Lebron, Wade and refs will make sure of it..

[NumberSix]

Miami in 7

[CelticBaller]

the pacers lost as soon as they let the Heat catch up to them

[PickernRoller]

With no Bosh it's all up in the air. Fact is, there was 0 adjuments to contain Heat ball. LBJ and Wade 60+ points combined, everything at the rim....pfft that is one of the worse defensive games I seen from the Pacers. I look forward to see if they can make the proper adjustments and make the Heat take jumpshots, if they can do that again like they have done before the Pacers have a chance.

LBJ and Wade shoot jumpshots, Heat loose. LBJ and Wade get to the rim at will = Heat win. The Heat imposed their game on the Pacers today, if they want to win these series, containing Wade and LBJ to jumpers is a team effort, no iso defense like they did today. Vogel had a mental lapse in the third quarter.

[Kingwillball]

I say the home team wins out at this point, but Miami will have problems next round(especially against Boston). If you need LeBron and Wade to score 70 and have a role player put up 14 on nearly perfect shooting just to win by 8 points, you're in trouble. They may be able to get away with it against Indiana, but not sure against Boston or Philly and definitely not against San Antonio or OKC.


LOL..OK, Heat own Philly and Pacers advantage on heat is size which is not what Celtics have ton of.. If Heat come back to win series and get Bosh back, watch out everyone else...

[Matty2Cool]

If the pacers don't win next game this series is done

[D.J.]

LOL..OK, Heat own Philly and Pacers advantage on heat is size which is not what Celtics have ton of.. If Heat come back to win series and get Bosh back, watch out everyone else...


Regular season means nothing. Playoffs are a whole nother ball game. No one fears the Heat, even if they are heathy.

[Kingwillball]

With no Bosh it's all up in the air. Fact is, there was 0 adjuments to contain Heat ball. LBJ and Wade 60+ points combined, everything at the rim....pfft that is one of the worse defensive games I seen from the Pacers. I look forward to see if they can make the proper adjustments and make the Heat take jumpshots, if they can do that again like they have done before the Pacers have a chance.

LBJ and Wade shoot jumpshots, Heat loose. LBJ and Wade get to the rim at will = Heat win. The Heat imposed their game on the Pacers today, if they want to win these series, containing Wade and LBJ to jumpers is a team effort, no iso defense like they did today. Vogel had a mental lapse in the third quarter.


Heat used some different sets today and Wade and James played well off each other.. The lid is off the pot, Lebron has not been stopped anyway (except one half) and Wade has his Swagg back.. If they get some contribution at home from Chalmers, Battier and Haslem Gm 5 could be a blowout..

[RRR3]

With no Bosh it's all up in the air. Fact is, there was 0 adjuments to contain Heat ball. LBJ and Wade 60+ points combined, everything at the rim....pfft that is one of the worse defensive games I seen from the Pacers. I look forward to see if they can make the proper adjustments and make the Heat take jumpshots, if they can do that again like they have done before the Pacers have a chance.

LBJ and Wade shoot jumpshots, Heat loose. LBJ and Wade get to the rim at will = Heat win. The Heat imposed their game on the Pacers today, if they want to win these series, containing Wade and LBJ to jumpers is a team effort, no iso defense like they did today. Vogel had a mental lapse in the third quarter.
You know, if it was so easy to make LeBron and Wade shoot jumpers, it would happen more often.:rolleyes: That strategy can backfire anyways if LeBron's jumper is on (which is 50/50 it seems ugh). It's hard to stop them, it's not Vogel's fault.

[Kingwillball]

Regular season means nothing. Playoffs are a whole nother ball game. No one fears the Heat, even if they are heathy.


WEll if Healthy and Playing like today from superstars u better respect them if not fear them..

[D.J.]

WEll if Healthy and Playing like today from superstars u better respect them if not fear them..


I better? Respect is earned and the Heat have done nothing to earn respect. And there is certainly no reason to fear them.

[WeGetRing2012]

It's still a toss up. The Pacers still have a chance to win in 6

[Inactive]

I still think the Heat will advance, but I have my doubts, after this game. If Lebron and Wade have to play that well for each win, they have no chance. They will need a game where Battier, Miller, Jones, and Chalmers are on fire from 3, or a game where the whole team is just firing on all cylinders.

[ihoopallday]

If Wade and James keep attacking the paint like that, they'll have a huge advantage next game.

[Kingwillball]

I better? Respect is earned and the Heat have done nothing to earn respect. And there is certainly no reason to fear them.


Whatever U say, if the best player in the world is focused and on top of his gm be afraid, be very afraid.

[Kingwillball]

If Wade and James keep attacking the paint like that, they'll have a huge advantage next game.


I like Heat by double digits gm 5 and gm will come down to wire gm 6 depends if heat can close or not..

[D.J.]

Whatever U say, if the best player in the world is focused and on top of his gm be afraid, be very afraid.


You Heat fans should be very afraid that you need 84 points from 3 players to win by 8.

[PTstyle272]

Pacers in 6 or Heat in seven

[Kingwillball]

You Heat fans should be very afraid that you need 84 points from 3 players to win by 8.


Just like OKC does on a Normal Basis and Everyone says they are Right there with Spurs as Championship favorite.. :confusedshrug:

[D.J.]

Just like OKC does on a Normal Basis and Everyone says they are Right there with Spurs as Championship favorite.. :confusedshrug:


The difference is OKC has good defensive bigs that Miami doesn't have. Plus they have enough bigs that can use up fouls and limit LeBron and Wade.

[StateOfMind12]

Just like OKC does on a Normal Basis and Everyone says they are Right there with Spurs as Championship favorite.. :confusedshrug:
The difference is that OKC has James Harden as their 3rd option while the Heat have......Udonis Haslem or Mario Chalmers as theirs with Bosh out.


I say the home team wins out at this point, but Miami will have problems next round(especially against Boston). If you need LeBron and Wade to score 70 and have a role player put up 14 on nearly perfect shooting just to win by 8 points, you're in trouble. They may be able to get away with it against Indiana, but not sure against Boston or Philly and definitely not against San Antonio or OKC.
With or without Bosh, 76ers definitely have no shot unless LeBron or Wade gets injured too. :oldlol:

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

Indy had Heat on the ropes...and could have gone up 3-1 if not for dumb coaching decisions like keeping both West/Hibbert on the bench for long durations

The way heat played in the 2nd half & UD played....if they can keep this up....they will blow out the Indy at home and come back & win game 6

Thank You

[chips93]

Regular season means nothing. Playoffs are a whole nother ball game. No one fears the Heat, even if they are heathy.

you say that as if this heat team didnt get within 2 wins of a title last year

[the_future02]

Why cant Haslem have another game like this one? Hes just spotting up shooting wide open 15 foot shots. Thats his game.

[Tenchi Ryu]

WEll if Healthy and Playing like today from superstars u better respect them if not fear them..
This is why people don't like Miami or their fans:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[D.J.]

you say that as if this heat team didnt get within 2 wins of a title last year


And they didn't get it done when it mattered.

[EnoughSaid]

It will be really hard for the Pacers to win one more in Miami, so I'm taking the Heat in 6.

[Kingwillball]

This is why people don't like Miami or their fans:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm


really fresh after big Heat win and great individual performances trolls still talking smack..

[MMM]

I got Heat in 7
and the Celtics will close out the Sixers in 6

[Shepseskaf]

Why cant Haslem have another game like this one? Hes just spotting up shooting wide open 15 foot shots. Thats his game.
Haslem is a career .494 shooter, so he isn't likely to hit .833 of his shots in consecutive games.

Its not that he can't hit a 15-footer, its how many times he can do so with consistency.

[bdreason]

I think the Pacers take it. LeBron can't be expected to drop 40/20/10 type games just to get W's.

[Haymaker]

Heat will win next game. Pacers lack that killer instinct to close out games.

[Sarcastic]

Heat will win next game. Pacers lack a superstar to close out games.

Fixed

[L.Kizzle]

I think the Pacers take it. LeBron can't be expected to drop 40/20/10 type games just to get W's.
He did it fairly easy. Him and Wade we gettin to the hoop at will.

And if he does another fcked up coaching job, like leaving his best big men on the bench in the biggest game of the series, than they have no shot.

[unknowns8]

I'm not sure if they will be able to win the series though. I'm really not sure if LeBron, Wade, and Haslem (or one role player) will be able to recreate their production and performance from today's game for two more games or the rest of the series.

concurred

you can't expect James and Wade to keep producing such a high volume of work and not have it impact their effectiveness... their form will dip dramatically and their production will take a major hit at various stages of the next 2 games as the toll takes it's strain... it then becomes a case of 'can Indiana capitalise on those dips'... if they can, they'll win the series

[chips93]

And they didn't get it done when it mattered.

you can say that about 29 teams last year, i guess everybody sucked last year but the mavs

:confusedshrug:

[gilalizard]

I doubt the refs will give the Pacers a fair shake, when it matters, in Miami.

Expect to see a lot of ref bailouts for dwhistle and leflop in game 5.

[nbaballllller]

I better? Respect is earned and the Heat have done nothing to earn respect. And there is certainly no reason to fear them.

you sound like amare

howd that work out for him?

lmao

[NumberSix]

I doubt the refs will give the Pacers a fair shake, when it matters, in Miami.

Expect to see a lot of ref bailouts for dwhistle and leflop in game 5.
I'm gonna be honest here and say I agree. I do believe that game 5 in Miami will be home cooked.

[LakersReign]

I say the home team wins out at this point, but Miami will have problems next round(especially against Boston). If you need LeBron and Wade to score 70 and have a role player put up 14 on nearly perfect shooting just to win by 8 points, you're in trouble. They may be able to get away with it against Indiana, but not sure against Boston or Philly and definitely not against San Antonio or OKC.

It's not even that. It's the fact that the Heat are supposed to be 10x better than the Pacers. Hell, before the series started how many people realistically thought the Pacers would win 2 games off the Heat? My thing is call me a hater cuz IDGAF, if they have to work this hard, to beat a team they were already supposed to beat, what does that tell you?

[NumberSix]

It's not even that. It's the fact that the Heat are supposed to be 10x better than the Pacers. Hell, before the series started how many people realistically thought the Pacers would win 2 games off the Heat? My thing is call me a hater cuz IDGAF, if they have to work this hard, to beat a team they were already supposed to beat, what does that tell you?
I can agree with this.

[Kingwillball]

It's not even that. It's the fact that the Heat are supposed to be 10x better than the Pacers. Hell, before the series started how many people realistically thought the Pacers would win 2 games off the Heat? My thing is call me a hater cuz IDGAF, if they have to work this hard, to beat a team they were already supposed to beat, what does that tell you?


Pacers the 3 seed and one of Biggest teams in League. Without your Best/Tallest Big man not gonna be a cakewalk.

[Tenchi Ryu]

Pacers the 3 seed and one of Biggest teams in League. Without your Best/Tallest Big man not gonna be a cakewalk.
Its still sad a Bosh injury made people realize this. Lets be honest, other than the Bulls and Heat, nobody gave anyone in the East a chance in hell.

[NumberSix]

Its still sad a Bosh injury made people realize this. Lets be honest, other than the Bulls and Heat, nobody gave anyone in the East a chance in hell.
Hey man, Indiana is a legit team. I've been saying since LONG before this series started that Indiana would have been LeBron's best choice of who to join as a FA.

I've said it a million times. The Pacers are 1 star player away from being a dominant championship team.

If I was a star player about to be a free agent, Indiana would be my first choice. Can you imagine if they got a D-Will or if Dwight would have went there?

The problem is that it's not NY or LA.

[NumberSix]

#6

[Whoah10115]

Its still sad a Bosh injury made people realize this. Lets be honest, other than the Bulls and Heat, nobody gave anyone in the East a chance in hell.



I've always said Boston was definitely better than Chicago and that Indiana could give Chicago a run for their money (not hating). Point is, I never believed the Heat and the Bulls were the only worthy teams in the East. Far from it.



Indiana was never gonna get swept. I see Miami winning, in probably 7. No reasonable person (despite what he thinks) thought Indiana had no chance of getting a couple games. It is what it is.

[ihoopallday]

It's not even that. It's the fact that the Heat are supposed to be 10x better than the Pacers. Hell, before the series started how many people realistically thought the Pacers would win 2 games off the Heat? My thing is call me a hater cuz IDGAF, if they have to work this hard, to beat a team they were already supposed to beat, what does that tell you?

This guy just loves trolling the Heat. It's not shocking Indy won two games after Bosh went down. Wade, James, and Bosh are the Heat. Obviously one of them going down means the other two have to put up outstanding numbers to win. Oh yeah, weren't the Lakers supposed to be "10x better" than the Nuggets? Look how that series turned out.

[NumberSix]

I've always said Boston was definitely better than Chicago and that Indiana could give Chicago a run for their money (not hating). Point is, I never believed the Heat and the Bulls were the only worthy teams in the East. Far from it.



Indiana was never gonna get swept. I see Miami winning, in probably 7. No reasonable person (despite what he thinks) thought Indiana had no chance of getting a couple games. It is what it is.
I have Heat in 7

[Tenchi Ryu]

Going into game 5, both teams have some positives to look forward to imo. For Miami, Lebron and Wade looking like they are ready to play together again is a good sign. If it has to be a 2 man show, it can't hurt that its Lebron James and D-Wade.

But at the same time, Indy also has to feel pretty confident in their ability to win as well. No matter how good of a game Lebron and Wade had, they still had to score 70 points ALONE. While its a damn nice memory to put in the books, history and common sense tells us that expecting that kind of production on a consistent basis is not such a good idea.

[All Net]

Can't see Miami losing it now to be honest...

[NumberSix]

Foul trouble is going to be crucial for Indy.

[LakersReign]

Its still sad a Bosh injury made people realize this. Lets be honest, other than the Bulls and Heat, nobody gave anyone in the East a chance in hell.

Exactly. After the Rose injury that had all the FAKE Heat fans all giddy with excitement, all you could hear about was how EASIER the East was going to be for the Heat. Now cuz Indy's scraping, it's "oh....well...they have bigs and without our big it's not going to be easy." Bull ******* sh*t:rolleyes:

[2swift4u]

I don't know who's gonna win.. but the two Miami wins came when the Pacers' big men were in foul trouble. I think the key for Miami is to attack Hibbert & Co and get them in foul trouble early. Otherwise the Pacers control the paint and the game.

[Lebron23]

Miami in 6.

[Dro]

I don't see Miami winning again in Indy so it'll probably go 7 games...I'm not sure if the Pacers will get a fair shake in game 5 but we'll see....If Lebron and Wade do what they did last game, Heat will win...However, I am confident that it will be difficult for them to pull that off again on that level and I don't think Haslem will hit every single jumper....All of his shots weren't wide open, I remember West contesting that last one and he hit it, all net....If the Pacers can somehow steal game 5 which is highly possible, the can win in 6...If they don't win in 6, they'll lose...

[HylianNightmare]

Heat

[pegasus]

huh ? Heat are not losing gm 7 at home.. Lebron, Wade and refs will make sure of it..

People also said that Miami would not lose the last game at home against the Mavericks, and that no one could beat them 4 out of 7. Yet they lost three in a row to end the series, including the last game at home. Not saying that the Pacers will advance, but anything is possible in a best of 3.

[chips93]

heat in 7

[Draz]

Personally I feel Pacers blew that shit out the window so many opportunities to win yet they fail.

[Dro]

Personally I feel Pacers blew that shit out the window so many opportunities to win yet they fail.
I agree, 11 threes in the first quarter...sigh...Why not just pound it inside? I felt like we shoulda been up 15-20 points at halftime instead of 8...I knew we were gonna lose that game at halftime...me and my brother were sitting there watching it and we just knew it...

[Bigsmoke]

Miami in 7

i think someone will step up outside of Lebron and Wade

[swi7ch]

Depends on how Wade's body is feeling. If he's healthy, Heat will win. If he's injured, Pacers.

[TheSilentKiller]

Why can rg still make threads?

[jrong]

The Heat should win, but a banner looks unlikely. LeBron is being ground down and still can't make a jumpshot. Wade's body is literally disintegrating. If the Heat somehow play the Sixers, they can make the Finals. But, getting by the Celtics with what they have seems like a tall task, and then to face the Thunder or Spurs after that? I don't see it happening.

[SpaceJammeR]

This guy just loves trolling the Heat. It's not shocking Indy won two games after Bosh went down. Wade, James, and Bosh are the Heat. Obviously one of them going down means the other two have to put up outstanding numbers to win. Oh yeah, weren't the Lakers supposed to be "10x better" than the Nuggets? Look how that series turned out.

Ignore him he's an idiot. Its obvious why Miami is struggling but it's his chance to hate so let him. Only makes him look dumb. Any superstar on any team being injured will have a big impact on the team.

[Dro]

Ignore him he's an idiot. Its obvious why Miami is struggling but it's his chance to hate so let him. Only makes him look dumb. Any superstar on any team being injured will have a big impact on the team.
Bosh is not a Superstar....he's a star...having said that, I agree with you..I'm still getting tired of hearing the commentators mention it every 5 minutes, and can't watch a highlight on any ESPN station without them mentioning it..Its like everybody forgot how the Pacers were being treated like a bitch without a v.agina before the series started..there's reasons for some of the anger..:confusedshrug:

[Glide2keva]

If you listened to ESPN, this series isn't really tied 2-2, Miami leads this series 2-2.

Win Indy wins, it's all about how Miami lost, not how they won. When Miami wins, it's no one has a chance to bea tthem.

The coverage of this series is sickening. The Pacers are in this series in case the national media has forgotten.