Absolute Smartest People on InsideHoops

[gigantes]

SO i've tested alright in the bullshit academic IQ test game, but the process does still seem pretty absurd to me- i.e., i'm definitely as messed-up and stupid as the next mofo, so how does a 'good' test result really help me at the end of the day? who the eff knows?

doesn't the very word INTELLIGENCE get harder and harder to define the more you think about it? nameme? anyway, i personally think that:

measurable intelligence will generally be demonstrated by successful solutions arrived upon towards the spectrum of problems that confront said organism.

so, then... my current james joyce novel consists of the FOLLOWING crazy characters running around and screaming incoherently:

Boozehound
Brunch@Five
DeuceWallaces
DonDadda59
dr. hee
JeffersonMoney
JtotheIzzo
Kentatm
KevinNYC
KeylessEntry
miller-time
Nanners
RedBlackAttack
Ridonks
shlver

if that doesn't scare you, what WILL?

[d.bball.guy]

insidehoops

[Albert Einstein]

:durantunimpressed:

[AirTupac]

Clippersfan86
Godzuki
Conan
Euroleague
SlayerEnraged

[BurningHammer]

insidehoops
This. :ohwell: :cheers:

[highwhey]

ridonks and j$

[Timmy D for MVP]

Nick Young.

[Meticode]

I have a lot of online certificates of completion. Looks great on resumes. :lol

[Celtics4ever]

Who? Any of these?

DeuceWallace
Boozehound
KevinNYC
Ridonks

I like them. But are there others? Betters?

Am I the only one that thinks KevinNYC might be Jeff (owner Insidehoops)?

[LBJMVP]

LBJMVP.

i heard that he is the smartest person in the universe.
forgot who told me, but it seemed legit.

[cuad]

My GPA is like 2.4. I'm pretty sure that puts me in the top ten.

[Crystallas]

"Absolute Smartest People on ISH"

That is an oxymoron, unless you mean least stupid?

[baseketball4life]

GP_20 aka Glove aka Glove_20

[RidonKs]

j-mizz bar nizz, booze is up there too for all aruond knowledge, ljj gets straight to the right point errytime he posts, same with jizzo, thorpes got mad versatility, and heyhey def deserves a spot especially for his age

and in all honesty i doubt i belong with most of the guys above or being listed. i've got great common sense and i write well so i can usually come off as brighter than i am in most areas, but my memory is shit and i don't have fundamental grasps of basic sciences or a lot of everyday knowledge most people grew up with. sometimes it feels like i didn't' turn on my brain until about three years ago lol

[joe]

falc. I like most libertarian-leaning people buttt, his posts always make my brain smile :D

[joe]

KevinNYC and Ridonks are smart, but their brains are filled with the wrong knowledge ;)

[blablabla]

nick young
hes dropping mind bombs on those community college fools almost every day

[rufuspaul]

J$
Booze
DeuceWallaces
RidonKs
Thorpe
Jizzo
LJJ
Vapid
HeyHey
LOJ (yes him)
Hawker
Jailblazers7
Zen
Dasher
Dolphin
Lebowsky
Jasi
B-Low
Prof Murder

[Jailblazers7]

Thorpe
HeyHey
Lebowsky

There are a lot of smart dudes on ISH tho.

[rufuspaul]

There are a lot of smart dudes on ISH tho.



Surprisingly true.

[ace23]

Jello
Kblaze
Bladers
Macho Man
Kaiiu
Nick Young
Hazard
Joe

[macmac]

This kinda boils down to who's your favorite poster, because intelligence will be reflected in a posters wittiness, general thoughts, etc...

So it's the usual suspects for me, and fukk y'all for not picking macmac

[IcanzIIravor]

Definitely MacMac.

[rufuspaul]

This kinda boils down to who's your favorite poster, because intelligence will be reflected in a posters wittiness, general thoughts, etc...

So it's the usual suspects for me, and fukk y'all for not picking macmac


Not necessarily. I enjoy reading posts from our "slower" members too. Unintentional comedy.

[LilKateMoss]

Lebron23 is really smart and totally not retarded.

[detroitkid816]

J$
Booze
DeuceWallaces
RidonKs
Thorpe
Jizzo
LJJ
Vapid
HeyHey
LOJ (yes him)
Hawker
Jailblazers7
Zen
Dasher
Dolphin
Lebowsky
Jasi
B-Low
Prof Murder
what makes u say this for these two?

[rufuspaul]

what makes u say this for these two?


If you can get past the craziness some of LOJs older posts can actually be thought-provoking.

B-Low is one of the few posters that can consistently make me laugh out loud. It takes intelligence and talent to do that.

[Jasi]

inb4 Circle Jerk Krew


Lebowsky, LJJ and jamal99 have a bright "European" intelligence. yes, European intelligence
RidonKs seems very intuitive and quick, same with Vapid even though they are very different from each other in other aspects.
J$ clearly has huge talents at least in terms of verbal intelligence.
Boozehound, heyhey, and rufuspaul seem to have brilliant all-around smartness.
ZeN is way more intelligent than most people seem to think.
Jailblazers, it's very difficult to disagree with whatever he says, very self-composed and sensitive.
And yeah, it takes intelligence to always come out with perfect one-liners like B-Low does.

I would also like to mention sawyersauce who looked outright smart and cultured in his few hundred posts.

[PullupJay]

Kblaze
J$
Ridonks

Rufuspaul
Jasi
DeuceWallace
Anti hero

LoJ
boozehoud
Nick Young

[RaininTwos]

It really depends on the topic.

I think that JMT deserves a mention.

[blablabla]

insidehoops

[brantonli]

Smart? I only know KevinNYC knows his economic stuff very well but that's about it.

[JtotheIzzo]

Jabes

[Godzuki]

kevinnyc hands down. stuff he posts to refute people is real concise where its not even a argument at that point, and seems to know a lot about anything grown up. everyone else here comes across smarter than they are, like they present well or have proper grammar, but aren't what i'd call all around smart with their opinions, knowledge, or observations especially. most are specialists in their fields/majors, but that doesn't make them smart.

[KevinNYC]

Am I the only one that thinks KevinNYC might be Jeff (owner Insidehoops)?


I'm not Jeff. Though my first name is closer to Jeff than it is to Kevin.

[RidonKs]

Lebowsky, LJJ and jamal99 have a bright "European" intelligence. yes, European intelligence
:lol didn't see the white at first but i still wanna know wtf 'european intelligence' would mean from a european perspective. we know how us northern 'mrcans might define it; stuck in historical condescensio, futbal oriented, complacently comfortable with their second class national status, just plain foreign (seems strange coming from you...)... maybe stonefaced and humourless?

i demand more



if i ever needed somebody to demolish a gop talking point, kevinNYC is that dude

[rufuspaul]

"There's a thin line between clever and stupid."

-Spinal Tap

[-p.tiddy-]

Jabes
yep for sure lol


I assume the OP just means "book smarts"...otherwise we could all take an online wonderlic in here and the "well written" posters might not come out as the best problem solvers at all...

but for book smarts...Jabes, and then as much as I hate to admitt it probably Deuce...

1. Jabes
2. Deuce


I hate them both with a passion lol

[Doctor K]

dumbest = primetime

niggga don't even understand what happiness is

[heyhey]

surprised Gifted Mind hasn't been mentioned. the guy is pretty quick with technical stuff, there were 2 posts in particular, one was some cryptography code and the other was a math question/ or maybe a brainteaser puzzle and I think in both he solved them both pretty fast, in the 2nd one I was just starting to write up my solution when he posted the answer.

the guy does go to stanford lol

[shlver]

Did everyone forget RedBlackAttack?

[RidonKs]

tiddy's a masochist on some warped stockholm syndrome type shit worshipping his own bullies and kissing the ground they walk on before they step on his face

[rufuspaul]

Did everyone forget RedBlackAttack?

:hammerhead:

Yeah definitely a smart dude.

[-p.tiddy-]

dumbest = primetime

niggga don't even understand what happiness is
I'm much smarter than I get cred for or most here would like to admitt...I'm just very hated


I don't know what the happiness thing is in ref to my *****...

[heyhey]

yep for sure lol


I assume the OP just means "book smarts"...otherwise we could all take an online wonderlic in here and the "well written" posters might not come out as the best problem solvers at all...

but for book smarts...Jabes, and then as much as I hate to admitt it probably Deuce...

1. Jabes
2. Deuce


I hate them both with a passion lol

yea the thread i'm thinkng of was where jabes put up some code and Gifted Mind cracked it like in 10 mins. I read it recently but it's an old thread

[-p.tiddy-]

tiddy's a masochist on some warped stockholm syndrome type shit worshipping his own bullies and kissing the ground they walk on before they step on his face
:no:

I don't envy people that are overly book smart...more times than not they are retarded in social aspects

Deuce and Jabes ARE very book smart...I'll give them that...it certainly doesn't equate to a happy life

[Doctor K]

I'm much smarter than I get cred for or most here would like to admitt...I'm just very hated


I don't know what the happiness thing is in ref to my *****...

Check ur primetime account PMs you dumbass!

[~primetime~]

Check ur primetime account PMs you dumbass!
must have deleted it...:/

[blablabla]

:no:

I don't envy people that are overly book smart...more times than not they are retarded in social aspects

Deuce and Jabes ARE very book smart...I'll give them that...it certainly doesn't equate to a happy life
neither does having great social skills

[-p.tiddy-]

neither does having great social skills
pretty sure there is a link between social activity and overall happiness...

[blablabla]

pretty sure there is a link between social activity and overall happiness...
pretty sure theres a link between being succesful in school, job(being smart) and overall happiness

[-p.tiddy-]

pretty sure theres a link between being succesful in school, job(being smart) and overall happiness
perhaps...your point is made, I get it

I was just trying to say I don't "worship" amazing book smarts as Donks put it...

[rufuspaul]

:roll: @ primetime

"I'm smart and happy dammit!"

[RidonKs]

:roll: @ primetime

"I'm smart and happy dammit!"
:lol that made me laugh

i thought the blatant hyperbole in my post was a solid indication that i was kidding prime, obv it couldn't be further from the truth

[-p.tiddy-]

:lol that made me laugh

i thought the blatant hyperbole in my post was a solid indication that i was kidding prime, obv it couldn't be further from the truth
of course...my reply was just an opportunity to take a jab at them both

thank you for that

[DeuceWallaces]

:no:

I don't envy people that are overly book smart...more times than not they are retarded in social aspects

Deuce and Jabes ARE very book smart...I'll give them that...it certainly doesn't equate to a happy life

Ha, you keep telling yourself next time you drop a dollar bill in some panties or lay out some late night internet anti-semitism.

I know you want to believe the people infinitely smarter than you are somehow depressed by our own intelligence and great careers/family life, but's it's just not the case.

:rockon:

[-p.tiddy-]

^^^

http://www.pescapanama.com/fishing_reports/images/041208/2B8.jpg

:oldlol:



I caught one

Jabes been MIA for like 4 years now though...

[chips93]

seems like a lot of the smarter posters are the more cynical ones

Rake2204 has always struck me as a smart dude

[Celtics4ever]

I'm not Jeff. Though my first name is closer to Jeff than it is to Kevin.

Thanks for the clarification. Now I'm only 25% sure.

[RidonKs]

seems like a lot of the smarter posters are the more cynical ones
this is because the world's complete shit once you get a closer look

[KevinNYC]

Thanks for the clarification. Now I'm only 25% sure.

Other than us both living in NY, what made you think that? I don't know enough about his posting style to see similarities.

[Lebowsky]

this is because the world's complete shit once you get a closer look
Ignorance is bliss :oldlol:

[KevinNYC]

While I'm flattered by being mentioned here, I don't think I'm getting enough mentions in the funniest, fattest or gayest threads.

I'm pretty well-rounded.

[-p.tiddy-]

this is because the world's complete shit once you get a closer look
these are ignorant words from one of the "Absolute Smartest People on ISH"

[KevinNYC]

Thanks for the clarification. Now I'm only 25% sure.


OK. just did some googling, you're the Rockefeller/Rothschild guy. starting to make sense now.

[chips93]

this is because the world's complete shit once you get a closer look

maybe if the smart people, were a little smarter, and were able to look a little closer, they'd realise its great

:confusedshrug:

[-p.tiddy-]

we're all dumb creatures in the grand scheme of things...

[Jasi]

:lol didn't see the white at first but i still wanna know wtf 'european intelligence' would mean from a european perspective. we know how us northern 'mrcans might define it; stuck in historical condescensio, futbal oriented, complacently comfortable with their second class national status, just plain foreign (seems strange coming from you...)... maybe stonefaced and humourless?

i demand more



if i ever needed somebody to demolish a gop talking point, kevinNYC is that dude

Yup i meant European from your perspective from my perspective.
Might have messed it up though.

[Jailblazers7]

this is because the world's complete shit once you get a closer look

Naw, society is the only thing that looks shitty. The world as a whole is pretty amazing.

[-p.tiddy-]

Naw, society is the only thing that looks shitty. The world as a whole is pretty amazing.
yep...it doesn't matter if you are an athiest or thiest, our existance is a complete miracle...the existance of anything is a miracle

the closer I look at everything, the more amazing everything seems...however if I try to look too close I can get a very strange surreal feeling, like I'm a spirit trapped in some strange alien body...lol

[Draz]

You pretty much nailed it. Everyone else dropped out at middle school. :lol

[ace23]

this is because the world's complete shit once you get a closer look
Am I the only one who caught the cynicism in this post? :oldlol:

[Celtics4ever]

OK. just did some googling, you're the Rockefeller/Rothschild guy. starting to make sense now.

Lol, no not because of that. You guys have similar posting styles. Maybe it's just me..

[Lebowsky]

yep...it doesn't matter if you are an athiest or thiest, our existance is a complete miracle...the existance of anything is a miracle

the closer I look at everything, the more amazing everything seems...however if I try to look too close I can get a very strange surreal feeling, like I'm a spirit trapped in some strange alien body...lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-agl0pOQfs

[-p.tiddy-]

Lol

[EoJ]

Rake2204 very knowledgeable on street ball.

[rufuspaul]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-agl0pOQfs


Damn you beat me to it. :oldlol:

[gigantes]

thanks for all the replies! sorry... late response:


I assume the OP just means "book smarts"
nope; not at all. intelligence covers many specific and abstract (and unknown) brain regions, although ability to communicate certainly wraps up the whole thing like a well-crafted burrito.


Did everyone forget RedBlackAttack?
good point. he and J-to-the-Izzo. fixed.


seems like a lot of the smarter posters are the more cynical ones
that's as it should be IMO. think about the utter rubbish that we've been relentlessly spoon-fed since infancy and the only sane position left is to be a cynic upon most modern human affairs. that certainly leaves room for a lot of clueless and violent wackos, of course, but i happen to respect a different type of cynic, if you grok me.

...

so what was i really aiming for by "absolute smartest people?"

i guess i'd say- not only terrific ability in any particular field (or a high ability across a number of areas), not only terrific ability (and patience) to communicate their understanding in these matters, but also a certain ability to understand the monumentally-challenging concept that 'many things can be true without necessarily contradicting each other'... one of the toughest and mind-blowing concepts for mortals to take on, evidently. one which tends to easily rip apart religion, cherished beliefs of all types, sentimentality, bigotry, and science and reasoning of even slightly-dated vintage.

another one i'll throw in there is the concept that ignorance is the foundation of all knowledge, wisdom, and indeed, enlightenment.

- blowhard gigantes, at your service, i'm sure. :D

[ImmortalNemesis]

RainierBeachPoet

[gigantes]

RainierBeachPoet
RainierBeachPoet

thank you. we're up to seven very smart people, now.

[SunsCaptain]

CaptainSun

He knows how to get tans.

[ImmortalNemesis]

The Answer

[gigantes]

what about dolphin... does he belong among the seven?

[RidonKs]

dude you belong in that top seven, as do about three dozen others

nanners
icanziiravor
you
rainintwos
jailblazers
hippos
thorpe
rupaul
snickersyoung
jasi
jtotheizzo
ljj
lebowsky
profmurder
highwhey


intelligence gap between any two on that list isn't very wide

[Theoo]

me

[Wile E. Coyote]

http://nobeezy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/tumblr_lwirchtCg91qz6f9yo1_5001.jpg

[RidonKs]

:lol

"half brain"

[Fiasco]

I'm too humble to mention the fact that OP forgot to list me.

[Timmy D for MVP]

http://nobeezy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/tumblr_lwirchtCg91qz6f9yo1_5001.jpg

:applause:

[Timmy D for MVP]

I'm too humble to mention the fact that OP forgot to list me.

I'm not.

**** you OP! :mad:

[IcanzIIravor]

http://nobeezy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/tumblr_lwirchtCg91qz6f9yo1_5001.jpg

Wile for sure. Has there been a better inventor in the last 100 years? It's not his fault Acme products have the lowest quality materials.

[Dolphin]

Ya well I am the only one listed under two different accounts.

This ego boost is making me feel soooooooooooo high right neeeoooowwww.

[Nick Young]

jabes

[rufuspaul]

Ya well I am the only one listed under two different accounts.

This ego boost is making me feel soooooooooooo high right neeeoooowwww.



hippos is smarter. just sayin

[Dolphin]

hippos is smarter. just sayin

Hippos > Dolphin in every way. Sadly I don't do drugs anymore.

[Scholar]

"All intelligent thoughts have already been thought; what is necessary is only to try to think them again."
- Johanna Wolfgang von Goethe

[rufuspaul]

"All intelligent thoughts have already been thought; what is necessary is only to try to think them again."
- Johanna Wolfgang von Goethe



Goethe liked little boys fwiw

[LilKateMoss]

"All intelligent thoughts have already been thought; what is necessary is only to try to think them again."
- Johanna Wolfgang von Goethe

"The sign of a pretentious douchebag is trying too hard and using quotes of writers he has never read."

-LilKateMoss

[Scholar]

Goethe liked little boys fwiw

So did pretty much every intelligent philosopher of the Greek era. I'm sure Socrates, Aristotle, etc., are well known for such despicable acts as well.


I'm not condoning anyone's love for little boys, fwiw.

[pauk]

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3309/3220176105_7e68d4238b.jpg

[rufuspaul]

So did pretty much every intelligent philosopher of the Greek era. I'm sure Socrates, Aristotle, etc., are well known for such despicable acts as well.


I'm not condoning anyone's love for little boys, fwiw.



Maybe it correlates into being smart? :confusedshrug:

[-p.tiddy-]

http://www.nicholascreative.com/footballiq/index.php?reset=true

^^^ a sample of what the NFL uses to calculate intelligence

IMO true intelligence doesn't necessarily translate into how well you come across on a message board, some of the world's most intelligent people would come of as complete weirdos in here.

and some of the people that come of very friendly and down to Earth in here could possibly be awful problem solvers...because they lack the brain power.


http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt73/_primetime_pics/wonderlic_1.jpg

I'm smarter than Eli Manning :pimp:

[-p.tiddy-]

I find it interesting that the more intelligent one is the more likely they are to suffer from depression...ignorance really is bliss.
there might be many other factors in that though than just "boo hoo hoo, I'm so intelligent that I can now see what an awful existence this is"

I bet there is link between being phyiscally unattractive and smart...in that the "ugly dweebs and geeks" are the ones that hide behind books and studies and the good looking kids ar out partying and having fun...being social etc...(doubt there are any studies out there on this, just my guess)

the "genius kids" at my high school were the ones that got picked on...the physically attractive kids were much more likely to be partying and having sex rather than studying...

I am betting that the bigger factors in depression are how in shape you are, physical health...your diet...your social life...your spiritual outlook...etc rather than your level of intelligence...just my guess, I haven't read much on the more intelligent the more depressed, but I know those other factors I just listed are huge factors in brain chemistry...

[LJJ]

I bet there is link between being phyiscally unattractive and smart...in that the "ugly dweebs and geeks" are the ones that hide behind books and studies and the good looking kids ar out partying and having fun...being social etc...(doubt there are any studies out there on this, just my guess)

They actually have done many of these studies.

They show a very clear correlation of attractiveness and intelligence.

"Both in the British and American samples, physical attractiveness is significantly positively associated with general
intelligence, both with and without controls for social class,
body size, and health. Both in the UK and in the US, the
association between physical attractiveness and general
intelligence is stronger among men than among women. In
the UK, physically attractive men have higher IQ by 13.6
points, whereas physically attractive women have higher IQ
by 11.4 IQ points. These mean differences imply bivariate
correlation coefficients of r=.351 among women and
r=.414 among men. Physical attractiveness is more strongly
associated with general intelligence than any other variable
included in the equations."

http://personal.lse.ac.uk/Kanazawa/pdfs/I2011.pdf

[-p.tiddy-]

They actually have done many of these studies.

They show a very clear correlation of attractiveness and intelligence.

"Both in the British and American samples, physical attractiveness is significantly positively associated with general
intelligence, both with and without controls for social class,
body size, and health. Both in the UK and in the US, the
association between physical attractiveness and general
intelligence is stronger among men than among women. In
the UK, physically attractive men have higher IQ by 13.6
points, whereas physically attractive women have higher IQ
by 11.4 IQ points. These mean differences imply bivariate
correlation coefficients of r=.351 among women and
r=.414 among men. Physical attractiveness is more strongly
associated with general intelligence than any other variable
included in the equations."

http://personal.lse.ac.uk/Kanazawa/pdfs/I2011.pdf
hmm..that is very interesting

I didn't think a study would exist because I don't know how you rate "attractivness"

and the genius minds out there are people like Steven Hawking...not Johnny Depp or Brad Pitt

it also doesn't go along with the typical "geek - jock" steriotype...or cheerleader vs. math club girl...etc

[-p.tiddy-]

Hmm, but we would want our smart people passing along their genes.

I feel like I've come across more dumb/ugly combination than smart/ugly.
http://rlv.zcache.com/the_future_of_human_evolution_sticker-p217668375883308173envb3_400.jpg

[LJJ]

hmm..that is very interesting

I didn't think a study would exist because I don't know how you rate "attractivness"

and the genius minds out there are people like Steven Hawking...not Johnny Depp or Brad Pitt

it also doesn't go along with the typical "geek - jock" steriotype...or cheerleader vs. math club girl...etc

That is a very false preconception you have there then. You probably have a mental image of geniuses, who are often eccentrics. Then again, you can point to Hawking who has a severe physical illness as an "ugly", there have been plenty of geniuses throughout history who were well noted for their physical attractiveness. Julius Ceasar, Cleopatra: possibly the most well known man and woman geniuses of the ancient world were both noted for their physical beauty.

But the biggest crop of "above average intelligent people" aren't geniuses though. When you walk around a quality college you'll see a lot more attractive folks there than when you go see the latest Adam Sandler movie.

[-p.tiddy-]

That is a very false preconception you have there then. You probably have a mental image of geniuses, who are often eccentrics. Then again, you can point to Hawking who has a severe physical illness as an "ugly", there have been plenty of geniuses throughout history who were well noted for their physical attractiveness. Julius Ceasar, Cleopatra: possibly the most well known man and woman geniuses of the ancient world were both noted for their physical beauty.

But the biggest crop of "above average intelligent people" aren't geniuses though. When you walk around a quality college you'll see a lot more attractive folks there than when you go see the latest Adam Sandler movie.
right, when I think of great intelligence I get images of Hawking and Einstein in my head...and when I think of attractiveness I get images of Kim Kardashian and super models who are generally shallow people...

also the geek-jock stereotype would have the geek as smart/ugly and the jock as dumb/attractive



It makes sense though now that I think about that just being of "above average intelligence" would be more likely in physically attractive people because they are more likely to be active and out going which helps brain chemistry tremendously.

[Thorpesaurous]

There's probably also an association between the similar paths that lead to both intelligence and physical attractiveness. Both require a certain degree of work ethic, application of knowledge, regiment. There's reason to think they'd be related.

The sort of people you're talking about are really extreme outliers. Someone like Stephen Hawking or Einstein was probably going to be pretty bright without much work ethic, just like someone who is the physical specimen of you're average leading man would probably be pretty good looking even if he was an insurance salesman. But both of those things represent ranges that overlap. All in all it makes sense that attractiveness and intelligence would be somewhat related.

[-p.tiddy-]

There's probably also an association between the similar paths that lead to both intelligence and physical attractiveness. Both require a certain degree of work ethic, application of knowledge, regiment. There's reason to think they'd be related.

The sort of people you're talking about are really extreme outliers. Someone like Stephen Hawking or Einstein was probably going to be pretty bright without much work ethic, just like someone who is the physical specimen of you're average leading man would probably be pretty good looking even if he was an insurance salesman. But both of those things represent ranges that overlap. All in all it makes sense that attractiveness and intelligence would be somewhat related.
That came to mind for me at first as well but when I looked to see how they rated "attractiveness" in the study I got this:


At ages 7 and 11, the teacher of each NCDS respondent is
asked to describe the child's physical appearance, by choosing
up to three adjectives from a highly eclectic list of five:
“attractive,” “unattractive or not attractive,” “looks underfed
or undernourished,” “abnormal feature,” and “scruffy or
slovenly & dirty.” A respondent is coded as attractive=1 if
he or she is described as “attractive” at both age 7 and age 11
by two different teachers, 0 otherwise. I use this binary
measure of physical attractiveness as the independent
variable. 62.0% of all NCDS respondents are coded as
attractive.
Zebrowitz, Olson and Hoffman (1993) analysis of the
longitudinal data from the Intergenerational Studies of
Development and Aging shows that individuals' relative
physical attractiveness remains very stable across the life
course. Their structural equation model suggests that physical
attractiveness in childhood (measured between the ages of 9
and 10) is significantly positively correlated with physical
attractiveness in puberty (measured between the ages of 12
and 13 for girls and 14 and 15 for boys) (r=.70 for boys,
r=.79 for girls), and physical attractiveness in puberty is
significantly positively correlated with physical attractiveness
in adolescence (measured between the ages of 17 and
18) (r=.72 for boys, r=.70 for girls). This suggests that
physical attractiveness in childhood is correlated with
physical attractiveness in adolescence at r=.504 for boys
and r=.553 for girls.


at ages 7-11 I don't think we are putting forth a ton of effort in how we look...:confusedshrug:

I did consider that perhaps the undernourished/dirty scruffy/or very overweight kids come from parents that aren't very smart or give a shit about their child's appearance.

[Lebron23]

Me, Myself, and I. I already created my own social network.

[Timmy D for MVP]

The other thing to consider in the attractiveness/intelligence relation is from a genetic stand point. But more than anything I think it's more a social factor.

[Nanners]

The "geeky nerds are ugly, dumb jocks are attractive" argument falls apart after high school.

Also, I live in the land of overweight people. fat (ugly) people with above average intelligence are pretty rare in OKC.

[Story Up]

Me, Myself, and I. I already created my own social network.
You are the biggest dumbass on this forum...

[-p.tiddy-]

The "geeky nerds are ugly, dumb jocks are attractive" argument falls apart after high school.

Also, I live in the land of overweight people. fat (ugly) people with above average intelligence are pretty rare in OKC.
not just OKC it looks like...(obviously)

The greater your weight, the lower your IQ, say scientists (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1531487/The-greater-your-weight-the-lower-your-IQ-say-scientists.html)


being overweight is awful for you on so many levels...

[-p.tiddy-]

I know that being overweight and depression are linked...

kind of conflicts with the claim that intelligent people are more likely to be depressed...

[Nanners]

not just OKC it looks like...(obviously)

The greater your weight, the lower your IQ, say scientists (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1531487/The-greater-your-weight-the-lower-your-IQ-say-scientists.html)


being overweight is awful for you on so many levels...

interesting. i wonder what comes first, the low iq or the weight. it seems kind of like a chicken vs the egg situation. do people get fat because they are stupid, or does being fat actually make a person dumber?

[-p.tiddy-]

interesting. i wonder what comes first, the low iq or the weight. it seems kind of like a chicken vs the egg situation. do people get fat because they are stupid, or does being fat actually make a person dumber?
the article claims that getting fat actually makes you dumber...

high blood pressure and other things affect brain chemistry in a negative way

[Nanners]

I know that being overweight and depression are linked...

kind of conflicts with the claim that intelligent people are more likely to be depressed...


i think almost everybody is depressed depending on how you define depression. when i see commercials for anti-depressants that say:


"do you have trouble getting out of bed in the morning?"

"do you sometimes feel like stuff doesnt matter?"

"do you feel nervous about social situations?"

then you should ask your doctor about this pill

side effects include bleeding out the ass and instant death


well, I have trouble getting out of bed in the morning. sometimes I feel like my life is pointless. also, I get plenty nervous before going to an important work conference or something...... well that settles it, I guess I am depressed and should ask my doctor about the ass bleeding pill that will make me happy.



another thing on depression - the more i learn about the world, the more I ask myself how an educated individual can NOT be depressed. as an environmentalist, i dont see how it is possible for me to not be depressed. the way humans treat each other and the way we treat our giant organic spaceship is just flat out depressing.

we live in a society where we celebrate selfishness and stupidity, how can i not be depressed?

[Lebron23]

You are the biggest dumbass on this forum...


F*ck you G00K. You're in your late 20's when you graduated in College. You are way past your prime. You will never be a millionaire, and a lawyer like me. Kiss my @$$ Bitchhhhhhhhhhhhh.

[Nanners]

F*ck you G00K. You're in your late 20's when you graduated in College. You are way past your prime. You will never be a millionaire, and a lawyer like me. Kiss my @$$ Bitchhhhhhhhhhhhh.

spoken like a millionaire lawyer :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Lebron23]

spoken like a millionaire lawyer :oldlol: :oldlol:

:cheers:

The guy is a douche bag.

[-p.tiddy-]

another thing on depression - the more i learn about the world, the more I ask myself how an educated individual can NOT be depressed. as an environmentalist, i dont see how it is possible for me to not be depressed. the way humans treat each other and the way we treat our giant organic spaceship is just flat out depressing.

we live in a society where we celebrate selfishness and stupidity, how can i not be depressed?
IMO you are looking at the glass half empty

there are plenty of us out there that are good spirited and loving...and plenty of people that don't celebrate stupidity.

the Earth may be doomed but IMO that could be seen as the nature and evolution of intelligent life...I bet life is destroying planets all over the universe...the "clean up period" will come for us generations later...MANY generations later

for me personaly, I feel that life is way too short...there is so much I would like to do and not nearly enough time.

[Nanners]

IMO you are looking at the glass half empty

there are plenty of us out there that are good spirited and loving...and plenty of people that don't celebrate stupidity.

I agree there are plenty of loving and good spirited people in the world, i am lucky enough to be friends/family with many of them.

I was speaking more generally, that as a society we celebrate selfishness and stupidity. an excellent example of this is the reality tv culture. you brought up kim kardashian earlier, the fact that many more people know about kim kardashian or snooki instead of someone like neil degrasse tyson is flat out depressing to me. when you look at common qualities of popular and famous people, stupidity and selfishness are becoming cornerstones.


the Earth may be doomed but IMO that could be seen as the nature and evolution of intelligent life...I bet life is destroying planets all over the universe...the "clean up period" will come for us generations later...MANY generations later


glaciers are disappearing, amphibians and fish are going extinct at crazy rates, air and water quality are decreasing day after day, our environment is being filled with new exotic chemicals that have hardly even been tested.... that is flat out depressing.

[-p.tiddy-]

I agree there are plenty of loving and good spirited people in the world, i am lucky enough to be friends/family with many of them.

I was speaking more generally, that as a society we celebrate selfishness and stupidity. an excellent example of this is the reality tv culture. you brought up kim kardashian earlier, the fact that many more people know about kim kardashian or snooki instead of someone like neil degrasse tyson is flat out depressing to me. when you look at common qualities of popular and famous people, stupidity and selfishness are becoming cornerstones.


glaciers are disappearing, amphibians and fish are going extinct at crazy rates, air and water quality are decreasing day after day, our environment is being filled with new exotic chemicals that have hardly even been tested.... that is flat out depressing.
I guess who is famous is kind of depressing but IMO it isn't anything to lose sleep over, I grew up being influenced by gangsta rap which IMO is much worse than anything Kim or Snooki could influence.

When you said you were depressed by society I thought you meant war/rape/murder/torture/etc...not reality TV, we are always going to find dumb shit to entertain us



the Earth going to shit is also very depressing...yes, I agree

I still think we are a very long way away from seeing anything drastic...the sea level has risen how much over the past 100 years?...like a few inches?...the temp gone up a couple degrees maybe?...yeah it's an issue, but more of one for my great-great-great-great-great grandkids than me...and I hope they have a good solution

[KDTrey5]

that nig trey

[magic chiongson]

i are smrt

[IcanzIIravor]

i are smrt

I concur.

[ZeN]

i are smrt
Smartest dumb guy on ISH :D

[magic chiongson]

thank you. thank you.

[The_Yearning]

Kblaze is dumb as fk. He just knows a lot of basketball and makes low quality mixes.

[Story Up]

:cheers:

The guy is a douche bag.
You can even sense sarcasm, you plagiarize everything and you're an emotional wreck and a compulsive liar.

You are at the bottom of the poll, by far the biggest idiot on this forum.

[Lebron23]

I love eating my dog's poop.


Be quiet fat boy!!!

[gigantes]

dude you belong in that top seven, as do about three dozen others
thanks. i tend to fall in to the 'idiot who's smart' category, or vice-versa. the defining theme for me is probably something along the lines of "he's smart, but psychologically he's a moron. in polite terms. something like that.

part of that evaluation might stem from the fact that women in particular are wired to respond to non-verbal communication, and that tends to put me in shaky territory. women sort of provide the backbone of societal critique towards a person, and if i'm having a good day, for example, women tend to feel very homey towards me, thereby boosting my self esteem. but on bad days, when i'm typically depressed or torn-up over any number of possible issues, stone-faced towards the world, women pick up on my "passivity" and clearly want to be a million miles away from me. that hurts, and that makes me feel smaller.

anyway, point is... i do tend to have an elevated respect for smart people who are 'together'. people who are smart and able to weather society, even if it's just, say, deucewallaces having the bottomless chutzpa to tell everyone else they're an idiot for not agreeing with him, repeat to eternity, which is more or less his specialty.

i.e., i might test right around your same level on IQ tests, but without your level of self-confidence and well-being, i'm simply not going to perform at your level in real life. but again, that's life. a healthy hippocampus and productive neurochemistry mean worlds upon worlds, if you know what i mean. i.e. huge mental edges IME.

anyway, the seven people on my list i judge to be not only the smartest people here by an IQ measure, but also by an effective-living measure. smart people who aren't rattled by much, are self-confident, and who have a level of... let's say, righteousness... imposing their will upon others, even after struggling past the dunning-freddy krueger effect, if you know what i mean. heh.

but seriously, 'smartness' has many components... many brain regions going in to play upon the term. there is also the fact that one can be 'smart' yet be decisively humbled by someone who is 'smart but brilliant.' even if they follow a sport like basketball for some god-inexplicable reason. :D

[RidonKs]

nice description. i think most behavior for anybody, regardless of how put together they may seem, is reactionary and never solely on their own terms. way you described it 'being able to weather society' is nicely put because it cuts to the gut of the matter... putting up with everybody's shit and just doing your darndest to do you, to whatever degree you can manage. the tip top pinnacle of lifestyle imo begins with understanding that you have your own voice and can express a thought as well as anybody else, and eventually ends with understanding that everybody else has the same thing... and your best opportunity to learn comes through paying attention to what other people have to say. eventually you come to realize you aren't the only important voice in the room; and nor are you merely a voice lost in a sea of other voices; you're an important voice in a sea of important voices. living in that, dare i extend the metaphor a lil further, oceanic flow of experience where you're just a single mind bouncing around thousands of other minds and getting the most out of every critical interpretation you make... that's the benchmark of living that everybody should and totally could strive for.

unfortunately in the midst of that beautiful utopian conception of humanity, there's all that other petty shit with relationships and bitterness and non-reciprocating love and everything else that causes you to forget what's really important.



and that's just another bs rant with nothing to do with intelligent whatsoever... brought to you by ridonks

[Hazard]

Cant forget the voices that like to talk just for the sake of hearing themselves talk. I'd place those those under the "less important" category. For the most part I agree with your perspective. Everyone observes the world differently and has a different opinion about it, which stems from our most basic instinct which is survival. Unfortunately some people are in the habit of talking from perspectives they have never experienced or been affected by, in which case they need to keep their opinions in their brains. Naturally media plays a big role in that.

[-p.tiddy-]

http://www.nicholascreative.com/footballiq/index.php?reset=true

^^^ a sample of what the NFL uses to calculate intelligence

IMO true intelligence doesn't necessarily translate into how well you come across on a message board, some of the world's most intelligent people would come of as complete weirdos in here.

and some of the people that come of very friendly and down to Earth in here could possibly be awful problem solvers...because they lack the brain power.


http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt73/_primetime_pics/wonderlic_1.jpg

I'm smarter than Eli Manning :pimp:


I was hoping others here would take this...

again, this is a sample of what the NFL uses to calculate intelligence...the wonderlic...the highest you can score is 50

problem solving uses brain power, much more than having well contructed posts in here IMO...I don't like the idea that intelligence can be calculated by posts on an NBA message board.

[Hazard]

Intelligence is a tricky thing to evaluate. Problem solving and analytics is within anyone's capacity should they seek that knowledge. In my opinion intelligence should be measured by a persons inquisitiveness and what they choose to fill their brains with. Most morons I come across in my life are usually into mind numbing crap like reality shows, horoscopes, religion, sports, basically any hive mind activity that is easy to follow due to societies constraints. The truly brilliant people I have met are into physics, history, sociology, psychology, and other various sciences. I could be wrong (obviously) but I think all people have the capacity to be intelligent, just not the drive or in most cases resources.

tldr IQ tests are bullshit.

[-p.tiddy-]

Intelligence is a tricky thing to evaluate. Problem solving and analytics is within anyone's capacity should they seek that knowledge. In my opinion intelligence should be measured by a persons inquisitiveness and what they choose to fill their brains with. Most morons I come across in my life are usually into mind numbing crap like reality shows, horoscopes, religion, sports, basically any hive mind activity that is easy to follow due to societies constraints. The truly brilliant people I have met are into physics, history, sociology, psychology, and other various sciences. I could be wrong (obviously) but I think all people have the capacity to be intelligent, just not the drive or in most cases resources.

tldr IQ tests are bullshit.
So you view intelligence as what one chooses to fill his head with or spend his time doing?

what if the one that likes "dumb things" is a much better problem solver, catches on quicker, is a faster learner, plans things out better, etc?

[shlver]

The most important type of intelligence in my opinion is the ability to analyze your method of approaching a problem and be able to adapt your methodology and then apply prior knowledge. I don't have this and very few people actually do. College students may know the honed pedagogically efficient methods taught in textbooks, but lack the insight and intuition of inventors like newton and einstein who were stumbling in the dark.

[miller-time]

The most important type of intelligence in my opinion is the ability to analyze your method of approaching a problem and be able to adapt your methodology and then apply prior knowledge. I don't have this and very few people actually do. College students may know the honed pedagogically efficient methods taught in textbooks, but lack the insight and intuition of inventors like newton and einstein who were stumbling in the dark.

the other thing people tend to forget about those guys is the amount of time they spent working. we have this image that they sat down one night and banged out their respective theories. they wouldn't sleep or eat for large periods of time because they were engrossed in their work. it is motivation and dedication that got them to where they were too.

[StroShow4]

Kblaze is dumb as fk. He just knows a lot of basketball and makes low quality mixes.

How can you say KBlaze knows a lot about basketball then call him dumb? What else has he ever talked about on ISH? :oldlol:

[Dolphin]

How can you say KBlaze knows a lot about basketball then call him dumb? What else has he ever talked about on ISH? :oldlol:

Buying and selling decrepit old houses in South Carolina to poor black people for profit.

[QUIZZLE]

I was hoping others here would take this...

again, this is a sample of what the NFL uses to calculate intelligence...the wonderlic...the highest you can score is 50

problem solving uses brain power, much more than having well contructed posts in here IMO...I don't like the idea that intelligence can be calculated by posts on an NBA message board.


I don't believe that you scored a 40 on the first time.

[-p.tiddy-]

I don't believe that you scored a 40 on the first time.
It was my second, first try 36...I'm sure if I tried long enough I could get a 50.

It was not the first time I have taken that though, I was shown that a couple years ago on an NFL site in a thread talking about the wonderlic...don't remember what I scored then.

The real wonderlic is 10 minutes long and I believe they take it three times and take the best score of the 3.

It isn't perfect obviously but it does show something that isn't displayed in writing in here...problem solving doesn't care about how ignorant or stubborn or unfriendly you are...it doesn't care if your vocabulary is high, it is brain power in a form as raw as possible, like a chess game, its your brains ability to out think the situation.

Someone like Bobby Fisher might come in here and post like an ignorant retard (I think he is racist actually) but the reality of the situation is that he is a genius.

[gigantes]

crap... i'd gone and forgotten about hazard.

[9erempiree]

Thanks for those that mentioned me.

I will rep right now.

[Punpun]

>Earth is doomed

But it's not. Even if Humanity was to disappear, Earth would still be here. Plus Earth is doomed anyways cos the sun gonna eat it.

you guys are funny.

:oldlol:

[Psileas]

Attractiveness is obviously a subjective thing to measure, but so is intelligence. Measuring IQ is an effort to do this and asking people to rate someone's looks is similarly an effort to measure attractiveness.
As for the stereotypes, first of all, I bet Johnny Depp or Brad Pitt would look a lot worse if they also suffered from ALS and were at Hawking's age and vice versa, Hawking would look a lot more attractive if he was healthy and had trained professionals deal with his appearance all the time.
Second, being a cheerleader doesn't automatically qualify you as a bimbo (though I don't consider it the smartest choice to participate in one the riskiest athletic activities around), neither does not being a cheerleader qualify you as non-attractive - I know for a fact there are tons of attractive girls who would never want to become cheerleaders.

Honestly, the "ugly but smart" stereotype is one I never quite understood. Even judging from IQ, when you see people with very high scores, rarely do you find any who would score low in the attractiveness department. Similarly, people with very low scores usually give out a bad visual image, as well - go to asylums, mental hospitals, you aren't finding lots of attractive people. Want less extreme examples? Take hard labor jobs, manual jobs and most jobs that don't require any decent intelligence. You're not likely to find lots of people to be physically attracted to. Go to prisons, the vast majority of prisoners are physically plain ugly, and though there are some highly smart criminals (and even they are usually not the unattractive ones), the average prisoner is definitely a below average intelligence person.
All the afore-mentioned are stereotypes as well, but they are more substantiated than the "smart & ugly" and "beautiful and dumb" ones.

Oh, and for the title of the smartest poster in the board, at least among the ones I've known a little bit, Tharegul8r is my choice - his experience helps as well, but still I've not met many people with his experience with a similar level of intelligence.

[Bladers]

Its funny that im probably the smartest person here. but peoople won't admit it. But will in due time.

Everything hidden will always come to the light.

[step_back]

Its funny that im probably the smartest person here. but peoople won't admit it. But will in due time.

Everything hidden will always come to the light.

Of course you think you're the smartest man here, it goes on the list of most deluded, insane and down right annoying.

[Bladers]

Of course you think you're the smartest man here, it goes on the list of most deluded, insane and down right annoying.

how much do you make?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=271045

now stfu you bum!

[ROCSteady]

I am most likely in the 94th percentile

[TheSilentKiller]

I was hoping others here would take this...

again, this is a sample of what the NFL uses to calculate intelligence...the wonderlic...the highest you can score is 50

problem solving uses brain power, much more than having well contructed posts in here IMO...I don't like the idea that intelligence can be calculated by posts on an NBA message board.

Took it and got a 43. I got them all right, but I entered one in incorrectly and didn't finish 15.

http://www.nicholascreative.com/footballiq/index.php?action=timeout

[LA_Showtime]

Well we can safely eliminate the OP. "Absolute smartest":biggums:

[irondarts]

Its funny that im probably the smartest person here. but peoople won't admit it. But will in due time.

Everything hidden will always come to the light.
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[LA_Showtime]

I don't post much in the OTC, so I don't even know half the posters you listed, but if I had to pick a guy from the main forums it would be KnoeItawl. In fact he seems like your typical overly-intelligent asshole. You can tell the guy is a genius but he also comes off as bat shit crazy. :lol

[highwhey]

j$ is up there. ridonks as well. deucewallaces withholds alot of his intelligence and instead uses his wit to sh!t on people, but he's a smart buttercup.

[gigantes]

Its funny that im probably the smartest person here. but peoople won't admit it. But will in due time.
funny?? i'm sure peoople consider it downright hilarious!

...

bonus question: what happens when a person burdened by a god complex looks up the definition of "god complex?"

do they see themselves mirrored back? i would assume not, so the real question is- what type of rationalization do they usually fall in to in order to hold off the forces of self-consciousness?

less godly minds want to know.

[step_back]

how much do you make?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=271045

now stfu you bum!

Everyone on ISH makes that kind of money. We're all 6'4 Bodybuilding CEO Rock Stars too.

[SourPatchKids]

Clippersfan86
Godzuki
Conan
Euroleague
SlayerEnraged
Well I'll be damned

[ZeN]

BoogieWoogieMan

Jasi

Dasher

Jailblazers

Killbot

Ihatetimthomas

DonDadda

rufuspaul

Black Joker


Chains5000

[TheeBeast]

You're pretty smart yourself Zen, but never seen your true capabilities

I'd say I'm a top 25 in active posters

[nathanjizzle]

gauging IQ on how articulate people post. you guys are idiots. im smarter than all of you.

[ILLsmak]

funny?? i'm sure peoople consider it downright hilarious!

...

bonus question: what happens when a person burdened by a god complex looks up the definition of "god complex?"

do they see themselves mirrored back? i would assume not, so the real question is- what type of rationalization do they usually fall in to in order to hold off the forces of self-consciousness?

less godly minds want to know.

It's not a burden to self. It's more of a burden to people with inferiority complexes.

Every definition should be applied to self. You ask, "Is this me?" Then you laugh and say NAHHHH.

Don't forget, though, that some people really are on a different level.

(son)

-Smak

[raiderfan19]

dude you belong in that top seven, as do about three dozen others

nanners
icanziiravor
you
rainintwos
jailblazers
hippos
thorpe
rupaul
snickersyoung
jasi
jtotheizzo
ljj
lebowsky
profmurder
highwhey


intelligence gap between any two on that list isn't very wide
I'd add black joker, jackass, rba, dondadda and rezznor to that list

[Riley Martin]

Those two posters who were solving all those crazy math problems. Jasi and Reaction, I think.

[TheMan]

Posters I actually learn new stuff from...

KevinNYC
DonDadda
Droid

[Hazard]

I definitely don't belong there. Know why? Cause I don't even remember posting in this thread :oldlol:

Gigantes get your name in there, stop being so damn humble. I also wanna give jello a shout out, that dude opened my mind about industrialization a while ago. Even though he's a giant dick, but its all good. Also LJJ, I enjoy reading his posts.

[ZeN]

I forgot to include RidonKs on my list.

[InspiredLebowski]

where'd ShannonElements go? I liked that guy.

[ZeN]

where'd ShannonElements go? I liked that guy.
Hes been imprisoned due to his sexual assault on GreatGreg.

[SourPatchKids]

Hes been imprisoned due to his sexual assault on GreatGreg.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GudNQpImKTQ/TzUFmSP5ZcI/AAAAAAAAIRo/dPaX-oWQWTI/s1600/lebron-cry-baby.jpg

[Fallguy20]

InspiredLebowski is on there somewhere.

[InspiredLebowski]

InspiredLebowski is on there somewhere.thanks, but no I'm not. I'm a drunken idiot. saw your rep note, what's up with Wabash? still trying to play ball there? PM me about it if you want.

[rufuspaul]

Hes been imprisoned due to his sexual assault on GreatGreg.


:lol

[Jasi]

InspiredLebowski is on there somewhere.

Hey. Been quite a long time since I last saw you here. How are things?

[rufuspaul]

I got the following neg for this thread:



dolphin is well-read, not smart. pm doesn't belong. zen is an idiot. purpose of half of your list is trying to boost some moron's self esteem.


Looks like someone's a little butthurt. :violin:

[Legend of Josh]

seems like a lot of the smarter posters are the more cynical ones

I think often people confuse confidence with intelligence; especially here. The average InsideHoops poster is supposedly six foot six, the next big name rapper about to breakout, has the wickedest jumpshot or cross-up, pulls the most women, packing a footlong, swag level 9k, and of course, an IQ of 152.

:oldlol:

No one wants to believe they're of average intelligence ... but come on guys ... the average poster here is of average intelligence. There can't be 50-11 legit geniuses here.

There's many nerdy lame ducks here that I'm sure in RL be beasting on the loser scale, perhaps fitting the profile of socially awkward smart as hell future rocket scientist - but - the reality is instead of being a genius in the making, the final product is just your average joe. Average joe with average level of intelligence; they're just dominating the leaderboards on said loser scale.

=P

There's obviously many intelligent folks here. Exactly who they are, how many, etc. - is up for debate.

Are there any actual legit geniuses here @ ISH? With so many members, it's certainly possible.

[blablabla]

I think often people confuse confidence with intelligence; especially here. The average InsideHoops poster is supposedly six foot six, the next big name rapper about to breakout, has the wickedest jumpshot or cross-up, pulls the most women, packing a footlong, swag level 9k, and of course, an IQ of 152.

:oldlol:


why do you think that the average time to get the confirm e mail so you can finally post on this forum is about 8-12 weeks
el jeffe is doing a full background check so only really special members of society can post here

[FatComputerNerd]

I am a mental defective

[millwad]

Millwad.

I was in the top 5.9% when I did "Hogskoleprovet" which is equal to the american SAT test.

[LilKateMoss]

Millwad.

I was in the top 5.9% when I did "Hogskoleprovet" which is equal to the american SAT test.
I don't know about smartest, but you're top 2 most full of shit on here. So insecure it's not even funny.

[rufuspaul]

you actually put dolphin on your list? you deserve a second neg for that


Dolphin really mindraped this guy.

[Money 23]

I've seen some really smart people on here. After reading their articulated thoughts, makes me feel like Derrick Rose.

[gigantes]

nanners and jeffersonmoney... d'oh!

[Legend of Josh]

nanners and jeffersonmoney... d'oh!

Nanners? Yikes. I'd put PT ahead of the Nanners guy.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Anyone here feel like having big balls and great social skills beats out pure IQ nowadays?

I fukking sukk at arguing but have an insane ability to process information quickly and lots of it.

Meanwhile guys like Rasheed1 don't seem to be bookwormy but are good at articulating words and responses.

[DukeDelonte13]

Anyone here feel like having big balls and great social skills beats out pure IQ nowadays?

I fukking sukk at arguing but have an insane ability to process information quickly and lots of it.

Meanwhile guys like Rasheed1 don't seem to be bookwormy but are good at articulating words and responses.


IQ doesn't equal pure intelligence. Having a high IQ means you are really good at solving the type of puzzles they put on IQ tests. We've all seen people that are brilliant when it comes to doing math or logic-based problems but can't talk to another human being worth sh*t.

There are people that are social geniuses, musical geniuses, athletes that can process spatial awareness at a high level is a form of genius, etc.


And I totally agree. Having great social skills far outweighs anybody's ability to be great a math or programming or some sh*t like that. In law school for example, there is a saying that goes like "all the A students become professors, all the B students become judges, and the C students make all the money." It's because most of the time all the kids who are dedicated enough in their studies to get straight A's in the program are socially inept, and can't handle the the social demands of the practice.

[millwad]

Anyone here feel like having big balls and great social skills beats out pure IQ nowadays?

I fukking sukk at arguing but have an insane ability to process information quickly and lots of it.

Meanwhile guys like Rasheed1 don't seem to be bookwormy but are good at articulating words and responses.

Easily, I speak 4 languages fluently and I when I did the swedish version of the SATs I was in the top 5.8% BUT I'm a freaking retard and my mind is equal with a pile of shit.

[Blue&Orange]

IQ doesn't equal pure intelligence. Having a high IQ means you are really good at solving the type of puzzles they put on IQ tests. We've all seen people that are brilliant when it comes to doing math or logic-based problems but can't talk to another human being worth sh*t.

There are people that are social geniuses, musical geniuses, athletes that can process spatial awareness at a high level is a form of genius, etc.


And I totally agree. Having great social skills far outweighs anybody's ability to be great a math or programming or some sh*t like that. In law school for example, there is a saying that goes like "all the A students become professors, all the B students become judges, and the C students make all the money." It's because most of the time all the kids who are dedicated enough in their studies to get straight A's in the program are socially inept, and can't handle the the social demands of the practice.
This got to be one of the dumbest and more ignorant thing i have ever laid my eyes upon.

Sorry your are butthurt because your IQ score is low, but you're not living on a cave right now thanks to the guys with high IQ.

You can teach social skills, you can't teach high IQ. And ever wonder that those guys have low social skills because the were always picked on by those guys with "great socials skills".


Your ignorance is truly remarkable. That part of high IQ = good at IQ puzzles is brilliant!

[AlphaWolf24]

- As much as it pains me to say it ( considering he is from NYC and is a Boston C's fan)

- "KevinNYC" seems to know alot about a wide range of subjects ( i've talked to him about Politics all the way to Fossil Fuels)...and although we argue about certain things...he seems to know alot about many diffrent avenue's..

a very cerebral poster.....( that's how I guage smarts anyways)

[rufuspaul]

- As much as it pains me to say it ( considering he is from NYC and is a Boston C's fan)

- "KevinNYC" seems to know alot about a wide range of subjects ( i've talked to him about Politics all the way to Fossil Fuels)...and although we argue about certain things...he seems to know alot about many diffrent avenue's..

a very cerebral poster.....( that's how I guage smarts anyways)


Agreed. He's got a pretty dry sense of humor too. He comes across as someone who could engage in some intense conversation but would also be down to going out and getting stupid drunk.

[BrickingStar]

- As much as it pains me to say it ( considering he is from NYC and is a Boston C's fan)

- "KevinNYC" seems to know alot about a wide range of subjects ( i've talked to him about Politics all the way to Fossil Fuels)...and although we argue about certain things...he seems to know alot about many diffrent avenue's..

a very cerebral poster.....( that's how I guage smarts anyways)
I hardly see him post about basketball nowadays

[KevinNYC]

- As much as it pains me to say it ( considering he is from NYC and is a Boston C's fan)

Actually I'm pretty much a Brooklyn Nets fan these days. I was too young for glory days of the Knicks and my Dad was a Dave Cowens fan, so I grew up a as a Celtics fan even before they drafted Bird, but I haven't been a hardcore fan of any team sine I was in my 20's. Actually when I joined ISH it was part of return to basketball fandom brought on by the Magic-Bird nostalgia that was going around. I did, of course, root for the Celtics against LA in recent years.

[AlphaWolf24]

Actually I'm pretty much a Brooklyn Nets fan these days. I was too young for glory days of the Knicks and my Dad was a Dave Cowens fan, so I grew up a as a Celtics fan even before they drafted Bird, but I haven't been a hardcore fan of any team sine I was in my 20's. Actually when I joined ISH it was part of return to basketball fandom brought on by the Magic-Bird nostalgia that was going around. I did, of course, root for the Celtics against LA in recent years.


Courtship of Rivals?....

the greatest basketball ever...:cheers:

[ShaqAttack3234]

- "KevinNYC" seems to know alot about a wide range of subjects ( i've talked to him about Politics all the way to Fossil Fuels)...and although we argue about certain things...he seems to know alot about many diffrent avenue's..

Agreed, I have different political views, but respect his knowledge and am very impressed with his knowledge on a variety of subjects.

I'd also mention ThaRegul8r, Psileas, Fatal9(doesn't post here anymore,though) and KBlaze off the top of my head. I'm probably forgetting some, but I primarily post on the NBA board.

[KevinNYC]

Courtship of Rivals?....

the greatest basketball ever...:cheers:

That and the Book When the Game was ours.

[AlphaWolf24]

Agreed, I have different political views, but respect his knowledge and am very impressed with his knowledge on a variety of subjects.

I'd also mention ThaRegul8r, Psileas, Fatal9(doesn't post here anymore,though) and KBlaze off the top of my head. I'm probably forgetting some, but I primarily post on the NBA board.


Yeah I hardly ever see you on the OT boards....

But you are one of the best/smartest NBA Posters here...always look forward to reading yo BBALL posts....

[Ikill]

Ikill......

[gigantes]

brooklyn nets, eh?


http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g309/Fionn-Whelan/Simpsons/Bob.gif

[fpliii]

OT: The discussion here (on the NBA Board, don't spend much time on OTC) is definitely at a higher level than it was at my last stop (ESPN NBA General, ugh :facepalm ). If you parse out the trolling, this is probably the best basketball forum out there.

[macmac]

OT: The discussion here (on the NBA Board, don't spend much time on OTC) is definitely at a higher level than it was at my last stop (ESPN NBA General, ugh :facepalm ). If you parse out the trolling, this is probably the best basketball forum out there.

I would say RGM has the best pure basketball talk. This place is way too diluted with Kobe And Lebron talk, and isn't moderated enough IMO. However the OTC has its great moments, although it used to have more interesting characters a couple years back

[AlphaWolf24]

I would say RGM has the best pure basketball talk. This place is way too diluted with Kobe And Lebron talk, and isn't moderated enough IMO. However the OTC has its great moments, although it used to have more interesting characters a couple years back


by pure do you mean Modded to the point that everyone just regurjitates the same tired ____________( fill in copy and pasted stats from BR)

Nothing pure at all from RGM....they mainly have the same tired topics up all week ( lots of them copied from ISH)....and of course its modded to death so you have less troll topics.....but it also provides zero fun interaction.

I have an account for there for over 5 years .......Place is dead now ....


Knowlegable posters and stupid Trolls>overly Modded site with posters posting stats like spam bots.

[macmac]

by pure do you mean Modded to the point that everyone just regurjitates the same tired ____________( fill in copy and pasted stats from BR)

Nothing pure at all from RGM....they mainly have the same tired topics up all week ( lots of them copied from ISH)....and of course its modded to death so you have less troll topics.....but it also provides zero fun interaction.

I have an account for there for over 5 years .......Place is dead now ....


Knowlegable posters and stupid Trolls>overly Modded site with posters posting stats like spam bots.

Well personally, I usually take my talents to the Raptors board and I can say that without a doubt, the topics there are more in depth and thought out (when not in full panic mode, or sheep mode) than anything close to here. From proper cap breakdowns, to playbook dissecting, just more advanced critical thinking in general.

The main general board is somewhat boring I tend to agree but again, much more mature and less cluttered than over here. I will go back and forth between the two as my personal preference

[G-train]

You can't judge a persons intelligence on a forum.

Some of the more intelligent posters here in reality are trolls on this site.

The ones that put in effort to appear smart are often not that intelligent at all.

If you are an American you are coming from pretty far back too.

[AlphaWolf24]

Well personally, I usually take my talents to the Raptors board and I can say that without a doubt, the topics there are more in depth and thought out (when not in full panic mode, or sheep mode) than anything close to here. From proper cap breakdowns, to playbook dissecting, just more advanced critical thinking in general.

The main general board is somewhat boring I tend to agree but again, much more mature and less cluttered than over here. I will go back and forth between the two as my personal preference


I could see that.....ISH is to Mosswood park and Rucker as RGM is to Brown University YMCA and the Princeton offense.

[Rubio2Gasol]

OT: The discussion here (on the NBA Board, don't spend much time on OTC) is definitely at a higher level than it was at my last stop (ESPN NBA General, ugh :facepalm ). If you parse out the trolling, this is probably the best basketball forum out there.

I find that difficult to believe. Trolling is 24/7 and eventually infiltrates everything. Even the people who don't troll are almost always carrying agendas.

To me there are a couple great posters who you can have engaging discussions.

Anyway I joined the site because Dklaer is a tactical genius :rockon:

[Spell&Grammar]

Thanks for nothing.



Spell&Grammar

[gigantes]

people who seldom if ever try to draw attention to themselves but who consistently find excellent points to make in a low-key, friendly way. you'd almost think that they're aussie or some shite. :P

miller-time

[pauk]

I have no idea how to assess the level of knowledge from posters posting in only or mostly in the OTC... obviously everybody have random knowledge in some specific random non-basketball fields and have great grammar/vocabulary i guess, but thats as far as it goes... many of these "smartest people" mentioned here i have never even seen actively discuss basketball or not seen in the NBA forum at all and thats the only place where i can truly evaluate knowledge (basketball knowledge) from posters in a basketball forum... but i cant possibly mention them all...

Some guys that immediately pop to my mind are Kblaze & ShaqAttack, those are fantastic basketball minds.

[IamRAMBO24]

I haven't been on this site long enough to fully assess someone's intelligence. You have to define what intelligence really is. Intelligence, to me, does not mean someone can regurgitate information; sure some people might know a lot of things, but that does not make them smart especially when a quick google search can bring up any information, so a guy like KevinNYC should be quickly eliminated. I won't hate on KevNYC too much though because he did write a conspiracy satire that I thought was creative, but other than that one moment of intellect, he's pretty stupid overall.

I would say a guy like Pauk is intelligent; he has the ability to elaborate and convey his thoughts in long elaborate paragraphs. You can add that kid Sourpatchkid, Rake and JMT, y'know, guys who have the ability to put thoughts into words a lot better than most people who are usually verbally handicapped and can only stick to one liners. I think that is a gift and something that many people can't do, heck, some people in here can't even read more than one line (and are happy to admit so), so you know they are automatically dumb as f*ck.

I don't like guys who have a thesaurus handy to try to sound smart because conceptual thinking (the ability to understand the whole idea) is a lot higher level of thinking than merely using big words. Sometimes people might sound smart because they use fancy "mysterious" vocabularies but they tend to miss the conceptual meaning because they get too wind up with trying to sound smart. The truly smart guys are the ones who use simple words but the idea is big.

I also like that "aha" moment where a person says something you have never heard before; Myth, Iamgine, MillerTime and Nanners have done it a couple of times, but for the most part, they haven't done it enough for me to consider them full blown intelligent, but the fact they are the few who did it for me gives me a level of respect for them although I might not agree with them and actually think Myth is a douche and Iamgine is a closet homosexual.

And really, guys with too much green bars are usually stupid because they can't convey their opinions with honesty. They are trying too hard to be with the "in crowd" and I think that hampers their intellectual capacity.

Overall though, there are more dumb posters in here than smart ones: guys like Nathanjizzle and others spring to mind. They have this ghetto gene in them that makes them ghetto minded and usually this mindset means a lack of education. They speak only from emotions and can't express their thoughts in a coherent intellectual way.

I like to use vulgar language to elicit an emotional response from them as the start of their premise. Usually when they speak from emotions they can't think with logic and they fall for it everytime, so it's fairly easy to find flaws in their argument. Sad thing is they are too stupid to figure it out and actually get mad and their last resort is to cry to the mods without ever realizing what the fallacy in their argument started with. Haha.

[DCL]

the absolutely smartest person on insidehoops is the poster who never wastes a minute of his life over here...

the rest of us will never be as smart as that guy.

:lol

[miller-time]

I also like that "aha" moment where a person says something you have never heard before; Myth, Iamgine, and Nanners have done it a couple of times, but for the most part, they haven't done it enough for me to consider them full blown intelligent, but the fact they are the few who did it for me gives me a level of respect for them although I might not agree with them and actually think Myth is a douche and Iamgine is a closet homosexual.

Aww you took me out and replaced me with Iamgine and Nanners :(

Does that mean I've never made you "aha" or does it mean you consider me full blown intelligent and therefore not a part of that group? I'm pretty sure it is the second one!

[IamRAMBO24]

Aww you took me out and replaced me with Iamgine and Nanners :(

Does that mean I've never made you "aha" or does it mean you consider me full blown intelligent and therefore not a part of that group? I'm pretty sure it is the second one!

Haha I deleted it on accident when I went back to edit that sentence. I'll give you credit, you gave me a few aha moments. Kudos.

[Bladers]

Being a computer scientist and engineer. I would say i am "the" absolute smartest person on ISH!

[IamRAMBO24]

Being a computer scientist and engineer. I would say i am "the" absolute smartest person on ISH!

I find people who proclaim themselves as smart aren't really smart.

The start of intellectual thought which lead to modern Science and is responsible for 99% of our intellectual evolution started with a single statement made by one man:

"The only thing I know is that I know nothing."

It is when you don't think you know anything, is when you start questioning and looking for answers. The educational system teaches you the opposite, hence why we have so many dumb kids in our society today. They make up terms such as "objectivity" to dissuade curiosity and then throw in exercises such as "problem solving and critical thinking" for students to find criticism and suspicion towards answers that do not fit in the criteria that they are indoctrinating the students with. After many years of this exercise, students will only take the words of "objective" authoritative figures (government, police, media, church etc). and simply deny anything out of the realm based on an act of habit and no rational thought.

Curiosity is frowned upon amongst students today; most students think being really smart is in memorizing a bunch of facts and knowing a lot of things, but TRUE EVOLUTION OF KNOWLEDGE is really in denying what is consider to be "objective" and figuring something better and newer.

If you know a lot of things and consider yourself smart, then basically you are only regurgitating what everybody else already knows and can probably figure out if they don't know with a quick google search, and if you think you already know it all, what incentive would you have to even question the knowledge being passed down to you.

Try figuring out what nobody else knows if you truly want to be smart.

[Bladers]

If you know a lot of things and consider yourself smart, then basically you are only regurgitating what everybody else already knows and can probably figure out if they don't know with a quick google search

You said every thing right until here.
No its not as easy as doing a quick google search.
If it is, why don't you go build a nuclear bomb or go perform brain surgery or engineer a phone or design a innovative software.

Thats what I taught. There are people who devote their entire lives learning and engineering things you take for granted today. These are the real smart people. The nuclear physicists, the neuro surgeons, the computer engineers, and the computer scientists.

Those are just a few, Go study your history. 95% of the technology we have today were developed by "engineers". People who spent their entire life researching.

You don't just wake up one day and make history. Thousands of engineer contributed to the advancement of technology we have today and the standard of living. Whether you look at technology, healthcare, lifestyle, space, etc.

These people devoted their lives to something more than just the norm.
They didn't do a google search. You can't build a plane by doing a google search. You have to devote yourself to it.

That's why the list in the OP is a complete joke.

[Myth]

I also like that "aha" moment where a person says something you have never heard before; Myth, Iamgine, MillerTime and Nanners have done it a couple of times, but for the most part, they haven't done it enough for me to consider them full blown intelligent, but the fact they are the few who did it for me gives me a level of respect for them although I might not agree with them and actually think Myth is a douche and Iamgine is a closet homosexual.


lol, should I feel honored or offended?

:cheers:

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Just found a way to reenact nzt48.

Gonna outwit done folks to get to top 10 fa sho

[Bladers]

Intelligence is not the definition of an "aha" moment. Its making a mark on society. Being more than just a regular man.

[Inactive]

Curiosity is frowned upon amongst students today; most students think being really smart is in memorizing a bunch of facts and knowing a lot of things, but TRUE EVOLUTION OF KNOWLEDGE is really in denying what is consider to be "objective" and figuring something better and newer.You aren't likely to have any great new insight, if you don't learn, and understand what your predecessors discovered. If you can do that, you are really smart, very few people get that far. If you replace the word "objective" with "common sense", or "conventional wisdom" I'd probably agree with you. Nothing of utility can come from denying the objective.


You said every thing right until here.
No its not as easy as doing a quick google search.
If it is, why don't you go build a nuclear bomb or go perform brain surgery or engineer a phone or design a innovative software.

Thats what I taught. There are people who devote their entire lives learning and engineering things you take for granted today. These are the real smart people. The nuclear physicists, the neuro surgeons, the computer engineers, and the computer scientists.

These people devoted their lives to something more than just the norm.
They didn't do a google search. You can't build a plane by doing a google search. You have to devote yourself to it.
:applause:

[Stempel, HERB]

Yeah I hardly ever see you on the OT boards....

But you are one of the best/smartest NBA Posters here...always look forward to reading yo BBALL posts....
:roll: of course u do cuz ure an idiot.


NEXT

shaqattack pollutes the nba forum with narcissim. he cant help himself from all those flavorless 10 paragraph posts cuz insecure losers like phoenixglove fawn over him. the massive length of his posts create the illusion that he actually knows wtf hes talking about. some guy rambling on for 3 pages bout his personal top 10 rankings in 2008 isnt smart. he likes the traffic from impressionables like alpha. rainierbeachphagg0t ran the same game cept he hit on religion and virtue. heroinattack aint got that platform.

[IamRAMBO24]

You said every thing right until here.
No its not as easy as doing a quick google search.
If it is, why don't you go build a nuclear bomb or go perform brain surgery or engineer a phone or design a innovative software.

Thats what I taught. There are people who devote their entire lives learning and engineering things you take for granted today. These are the real smart people. The nuclear physicists, the neuro surgeons, the computer engineers, and the computer scientists.

Those are just a few, Go study your history. 95% of the technology we have today were developed by "engineers". People who spent their entire life researching.

You don't just wake up one day and make history. Thousands of engineer contributed to the advancement of technology we have today and the standard of living. Whether you look at technology, healthcare, lifestyle, space, etc.

These people devoted their lives to something more than just the norm.
They didn't do a google search. You can't build a plane by doing a google search. You have to devote yourself to it.

That's why the list in the OP is a complete joke.

Let me elaborate my position:

I am merely defining my idea of intelligence in an ISH forum. You're talking about some high level college master's while some of these guys would be lucky to get a GED, so if you have accomplish all that, then more kudos to you.

I am directly attacking guys like KevNYC who recites news articles verbatim as his own type of argument. I don't see anything special about this because a quick google search can find any counter argument to anything said in this discussion forum. I do agree with you that if someone is well versed in a subject, they can intepret it in their own words and add something new (the aha moment) with their own angle. That to me is intelligence: it shows the person as someone who has thought deeply enough and is educated enough to formulate a seminal idea rather than regurgitate (at best) what has already been said or (at worst) simply link to a news article using someone else's word.

[IamRAMBO24]

You aren't likely to have any great new insight, if you don't learn, and understand what your predecessors discovered. If you can do that, you are really smart, very few people get that far. If you replace the word "objective" with "common sense", or "conventional wisdom" I'd probably agree with you. Nothing of utility can come from denying the objective.

:applause:

Objectivity has been misused and manipulated to define knowledge as only restricted to certain sectors within the educational system. For example, history in school is being taught as objective, but it is far from that, in fact, I would argue that it is the most subjective topic being taught in the classrooms today since it does not teach from a universal perspective that encompasses all cultures (including that of religion), but a very small segment of American history. Even the media has been coined as "objective" when half of the population already knows it can be full of sh*t sometimes, but the idea has been so ingrained in our minds most people, although they willingly admit what is being presented isn't always true, will, out of habit, accept what is being reported as something not to be questioned. In fact, they have such a disdain for those who question the media, they would attack them with fervor and label them as "conspiracy nuts." It is an act of indoctrination and the root cause is an obssession to the term objectivity.

I agree with you that expounding the findings of predeccessors is essential in the progression of knowledge, but it is the act of denying it is what starts the "curiosity" mode and leads to true learning. If you simply accept everything you learn in school and are being taught not to question but merely to regurgitate it on a test, you are not partaking in the act of true learning set out by Socrates when he utter his famous line, "The only thing I know is that I know nothing." It is in the thought of not knowing is what triggers the act of questioning, but I do agree with you must be well versed in the subject matter before you start questioning.

Even the term "fact" is a deceptive misuse of a term to hamper creativity (which seems to be a goal of the educational system) because the idea a truth is never changing and completely objective is a delusional way of seeing reality: all ideas will change. Newer ideas will come along and replace the old ideas of today. This process will go on forever. So nothing can ever be an axiom or a fact because there are only "temporary" truths.

Education is not the only one guilty of this, Religion does this as well with their all knowing God.

[gigantes]

all of which reminds me of figan, the erstwhile leader of a tribe of chimps studied by jane goodall in mogombe, tanzania.

figan was a medium-sized male with no particular leadership prospects until one day he came across a discarded oil can. after a little experimentation with his new toy, he quickly discovered that banging it along the ground and adding in his own shrieks greatly bewildered and alarmed the then-leader of the tribe, a large, powerful chimp in his own right.

figan pressed the advantage, made maximum use of his trusty can, and eventually the improbable and miraculous occurred-- the leader backed down and figan became the new alpha male, a position which afforded him prime access to most available wombs in the area. and what a sweet, sweet ride that was.

if figan was around today, i think he would use a wall of text, not a discarded oil can.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

:roll: of course u do cuz ure an idiot.


NEXT

shaqattack pollutes the nba forum with narcissim. he cant help himself from all those flavorless 10 paragraph posts cuz insecure losers like phoenixglove fawn over him. the massive length of his posts create the illusion that he actually knows wtf hes talking about. some guy rambling on for 3 pages bout his personal top 10 rankings in 2008 isnt smart. he likes the traffic from impressionables like alpha. rainierbeachphagg0t ran the same game cept he hit on religion and virtue. heroinattack aint got that platform.

Herb Stempel with internet access and memory techniques Would make Ken Jennings look like a fukkin autistic retard.

[gigantes]

i think that most 'intelligent' people (and yes, the term is endlessly debatable) have little use for calling particular attention to their own intelligence. few times does it offer any real benefit, and the pitfalls are many.

the point of having some kind of talent or intelligence is to EXERCISE it effectively in useful areas.

as in creative writing- "show, don't tell."

become effective in whatever you're striving in and let the results sort themselves out.

when it comes to dealing with other people, undertake the power of translation. observe how people think, what they care about, the ideas that run through their heads, the language that springs to their hearts and lips. and then build a bridge. and then build a bridge...


http://blogs.ucl.ac.uk/researchers-in-museums/files/2012/08/image_1.jpg

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Giga,

THe "Demonstration, Not Application" rule was in the 48 laws of power and applies everywhere on the path to "enlightened superiority" aka being the best but being humble about it.

Practically all the old films celebrated this as a masculine virtue. I mean there were sporadic doses of cockiness and arrogance but most people (such as Charles Bronson were quiet killers). Now there's rappers going around saying "Mr Steal Yo Girl" and the only time when . It's said in Hagukare that occasionally a person does have to fluant their arrogance.. because it is just like a sword. If staying in the sheath to long it becomes dull but when being withdrawn too many times it loses its impact upon others.

Let's extend the intelligence gig a bit..

SOme guy said intelligence was a persons ability to invent something that would benefit mankind. I do agree, to an extent, but that is more consciountessness (like one love type universal good vibrations type sh!t, i mean sugar)
Another guy said that it was the case of the chimp's self-serving reign to power . THat's more like it!

Gig, define the following and lemme know an archetype that exemplifies each.

Wit.
Wisdom.
A Rational Mind.
Deductive Reasoning.
ANalogical Reasoning.
Inductive Reasoning.
Creativity.
Free Association.
FLuid Intelligence.
Vivid Imagination.
Visual THinking
Verbal Reasoning
Parallel Thinking.
Crystallized Intelligence.
Brainpower.

[gigantes]

you run rings around me with your energy, J$. in most areas of life and the internet, i just kind of pop in for a little while, see if anything interesting happens, and then go lie down for awhile. heh.

you do bring up a million and one scintillating issues with boundless puppy-dog enthusiasm, however.

you know, in an alternate universe i have your same level of energy and your questing nature and we go back and forth all day talking about all kinds of interesting and inane shit. in any case, you always leave me with interesting things to think about.

archetypes for broad aspects of those qualities? how about pantheons of gods and legendary heroes across various cultures? have you found any inspiration along those lines?

i don't know... modern examples?

oscar wilde and dorothy parker for wit.
goethe for wisdom.
doyle's holmes for inductive, deductive and reductive reasoning.
robert anton wilson for fluid intelligence.
noam chomsky for verbal reasoning.
hawking for brain power.
picasso and van gogh for damaged creativity.
a supercomputer for parallel thinking.

ugh... brain tired. i need to lie down already.
damn you, thomas jefferson and your huge wheelbarrow full of money!

[Blue&Orange]

to the ph@ggott that neg rep me on this thread...

I know you don't know where to begin, you are that retarded. :roll:

[Blue&Orange]

"keep complaining I dare you"

I don't care ph@gott! :lol I'm not a complete loser like yourself. :lol

Coward bitch afraid to be owned... priceless.

[JerrySteakhouse]

No love for me? :(

[boozehound]

how is this thread still on the frontpage?

[rufuspaul]

how is this thread still on the frontpage?


Butthurt inertia

[joe]

For intelligence I don't really look at *what* people say, more just the level that their brain is computing at. For instance, Stephen A. Smith on First Take. I don't agree with the way he sees the world in a lot of cases. His "filter" for how he views things doesn't usually vibe with mine. But you can tell his brain is operating at an extremely high level, where he's taking so many variables into account, is so precise with the English language, and covers all aspects of his arguments down to a tee.

I always think of someones "filter," and that's kind of their general viewpoint and way of seeing the world. And then behind that is a light. Smart people the light goes beaming through, less smart people there's less light. That probably doesn't make sense to anyone, but it's the little mental image I always have in my head when I think of intelligence.

lol

[miller-time]

I always think of someones "filter," and that's kind of their general viewpoint and way of seeing the world. And then behind that is a light. Smart people the light goes beaming through, less smart people there's less light. That probably doesn't make sense to anyone, but it's the little mental image I always have in my head when I think of intelligence.

I think I intuitively get what you are saying. But I can't really put it into psychological terms. Can you give an example?

[joe]

I think I intuitively get what you are saying. But I can't really put it into psychological terms. Can you give an example?

I think it makes the most sense when it comes to politics. If you're a hardcore Democrat, I see your filter as being Democrat based. So you're seeing the world through that filter. You're looking at things through that lens and it taints how you interpret any information.

A Republican might say this person is "dumb." But I think the filter is only one half, you also have to look at the "light," or the intelligence. This person might be extremely smart, it's just their brain goes through this particular filter that the Republican doesn't agree with.

But I think of people who have a "funny" filter, or a "perverted" filter. Whatever, that's just how their brains are processing the data. But the intelligence defines how thoroughly they can process it, how analytical they can be with the data they collect, etc.

It's definitely one of those weird things we all do inside our own head, that are hard to describe to others. I don't think I've actually talked about this to anyone before haha, seems so strange now that I'm describing it to another person

Edit- I think to a certain extent you can usually break down the way someone thinks into a few different filters. Especially if you go by categories. So like Stephen A Smith again:

Category: Sports
Filters: Not wanting to offend others, Looks to give credit whenever he can, retain journalistic integrity, take big picture view.

That's the filters that I think Stephen A. Smith uses when he talks about sports. But that's only one category. I don't know his filters when it comes to being a parent, a son, politics, religion, whatever else.

[Pointguard]

There are no absolutes!

The way boards operate doesn't always lend itself to the person who can teach and extend a moving new thought like Einstein. Its much more conducive for the poster who makes a quick point and takes a more popular view. To me the intelligence that is creative, bold and generates a feeling is the most potent in general but on boards I like the poster who can come up with an unique angle, expound on it, show some wit in the process of explaining.

Rasheed
Don Dadda
And Rufus Paul come to mind.

I have more but I forget screenames.

[IamRAMBO24]

I think it makes the most sense when it comes to politics. If you're a hardcore Democrat, I see your filter as being Democrat based. So you're seeing the world through that filter. You're looking at things through that lens and it taints how you interpret any information.

A Republican might say this person is "dumb." But I think the filter is only one half, you also have to look at the "light," or the intelligence. This person might be extremely smart, it's just their brain goes through this particular filter that the Republican doesn't agree with.



It is a lot more complex than that.

Scientist would love to call it genetics, but the way our brains are being structured has a lot more to do with thought than anything else. We have 2 sectors of society that is systematically indoctrinating people's minds. One is education. The other is the church. Education is a system of indoctrination, thus people who are more "educated" tend to be more liberal. The other sector is religion, and those who are religious will be more conservative.

It is because both political parties have spent a huge amount of money to influence one or the other, so through this association of social beliefs, both institutions are very successful in brain washing students or young children to believe in one or the other.

I think the main goal of the rich is to stir up a bit of class warfare, meaning, poor vs poor, y'know, this way they can divert the attention away from a rich vs poor showdown; the idea is if the poor are more focused on social issues (gays, racism, abortion, etc.) that will only make them hate each other more, and they won't be so focused on the people truely screwing them over: the rich.

Most of society are conditioned in two ways: education or church. Most Americans are raised to hate one or the other, meaning, they were taught to hate their neighbors and the people around them that take the other side. What they teach in school is the antithesis of what they teach in the churches: if they say you should be accepting of gays in the schools, the churches will go against gays; when the schools teach contraceptives in sex education, the churches go against that, so on and so forth. You get the point. Living in America, you only have 2 choices growing up: being liberal or conservative, and it all really boils down to how well you do in school (liberal) or how much you like church (conservative). Those 2 institutions influence the minds of the population the most. There is a reason why the Democrats will pour their heart and soul into education and there is a reason why every Republican is nothing more than a religious hack. Both systems were bought and paid for and most americans are either brainwashed in one way of thinking or the other.

[gigantes]

'sup figan. :cheers:

[Clifton]

There are a lot of really intelligent posters on this board. It's a very impressive group. The problem is, intelligent posters tend to post very little, (since nothing is often a wise thing to do and always a wise thing to say) and the highest-volume posters tend to be the dumbest.

It's hard to pin down a "most intelligent" poster though. I would say Kwajo is the most intelligent guy to ever post here, but I haven't seen him in years.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

There are a lot of really intelligent posters on this board. It's a very impressive group. The problem is, intelligent posters tend to post very little, (since nothing is often a wise thing to do and always a wise thing to say) and the highest-volume posters tend to be the dumbest.

It's hard to pin down a "most intelligent" poster though. I would say Kwajo is the most intelligent guy to ever post here, but I haven't seen him in years.

What impresses me most about him is that all that wit and knowledge is channeled into his pure love of nature.

Good to hear that people are using their brains for the sake of the preservation of Earth, and in your case, the love of knowledge.

Makes life a bit fresher when there are undiscovered gems out in uncharted territories (Nova Scotia).

[MadeFromDust]

Let's just put it this way...wilt da stilt could never score enough to match my IQ

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[B-Low]

Let's just put it this way...wilt da stilt could never score enough to match my IQ

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So 101?

[ace23]

I'd like to nominate shlver. Read through a lot of his posts today; he's a smart ****.

[Timmy D for MVP]

So 101?

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Dude set himself up so badly.

It's always interesting to me when discussing intelligence. Usually we think someone is smart when they talk about science or math. But equal experts in other fields get less to no respect.

[Bandito]

What are you people thoughts on standardized tests?

Because I remember I score pretty well. Some people wanted me to skip a grade so I could go to college faster because of it.

[SilkkTheShocker]

My IQ is 167

[Timmy D for MVP]

What are you people thoughts on standardized tests?

Because I remember I score pretty well. Some people wanted me to skip a grade so I could go to college faster because of it.

I am not on board with standardized testing. Or at least I don't like the amount of emphasis placed on it.