Do yall really think the sorriest player in the NBA would be a God if he played us?

[zay_24]

I heard this before but i cant buy it. Yea I a bench warmer is still one of the top players in the country and could probably school any regular ***** at basketball.
But i have a hard time believing ****** like Derek Fisher, would go to the Rucker or some shit and become Michael Jordan:coleman:

[WeGetRing2012]

I heard this before but i cant buy it. Yea I a bench warmer is still one of the top players in the country and could probably school any regular ***** at basketball.
But i have a hard time believing ****** like Derek Fisher, would go to the Rucker or some shit and become Michael Jordan:coleman:

:roll: :roll:

No players in the NBA last because most of them understand how to play team basketball in the NBA or have an elite skill (shooting threes,defense,or sometimes just size with the ability to defend)

[HylianNightmare]

derek fisher would be balling us up, posting us up backing us down ar eyou serious?

[Rake2204]

The worst NBA player is still in the top 99.999% of every basketball player in the world. Does it mean Derek Fisher would arrive at Rucker Park and begin pulling off Hot Sauce moves and performing between-the-legs dunks? Nope. Would there be folks at a given park who may be faster than Fisher? Or stronger? Or more athletic? Or maybe finishing better in traffic? I think it's definitely possible. In terms of the entire package though, I'd say it's more than fair to say any NBA player is likely going to be far better than nearly every other single player they'd ever encounter on a street court.

In Fisher's case, we'd be talking about a supremely conditioned athlete. He's 6'1'' 210lbs and strong. Against regular folks, he'd likely run the floor for days and push at a heavy tempo. While his ballhandling might not be showy, it'd be extremely reliable. His passing would be smart and precise, not to mention firm and authoritative. Fisher is a career 37% three point shooter from 24 feet away. I believe the Rucker has an NBA line but it seems most street courts in America are high school lined (and perhaps college lined). That'd mean Fisher's triples in a street game would come to him like layups, not to mention he'd be a sure threat from at least four feet beyond the high school line.

Again at 6'1'' 210, Fisher would likely be able to bully normal street guards with strong and savvy post play. He'd likely be too quick or shifty for taller street defenders. If he didn't wear down a defender through ball-handling, he'd probably make his presence felt by moving without the ball with effective cuts and curls, not to mention filling the lane, rebounding, and running the floor at all times.

I've never played against a current NBA player so I suppose I'm just throwing stuff out there. I don't envision Derek Fisher shaking and baking while dunking on fools. But I don't think there'd be any way for folks to not be able to make a clear distinction as to who the NBA player was on the floor and who was not.

Whenever this topic comes up, I harken back to the early 2000's when I saw Mike Dunleavy Jr. play at Rucker Park on some late night ESPN2 show. He was coming off an underwhelming rookie year where he averaged 6 points a night as a spot up shooter of sorts. What became very apparent early in the Rucker game on ESPN2 was this: Mike Dunleavy Jr. was 6 foot freaking 9, 220 pounds and had range well beyond the NBA stripe. That means he was bombing from wherever he pleased, he was blocking shots because he was comparatively huge, and he was dunking with ease. Even the most average NBA players are on another level.

[Hammertime]

That'd mean Fisher's triples in a street game would come to him like layups, not to mention he'd be a sure threat from at least four feet beyond the high school line.

I absolutely agree with your post, but I wanna point out that you need to give Fisher even more credit here. Not only would Fisher hit open threes like layups, he'd hit contested threes like layups. Cats on the playground do not exactly have the defensive game of NBA players. Fisher is a 37% career shooter with guys like Parker or Nash guarding him. He would probably shoot twice that with any of us guarding him.

[Westbrook0]

The worst NBA player is still in the top 99.999% of every basketball player in the world. Does it mean Derek Fisher would arrive at Rucker Park and begin pulling off Hot Sauce moves and performing between-the-legs dunks? Nope. Would there be folks at a given park who may be faster than Fisher? Or stronger? Or more athletic? Or maybe finishing better in traffic? I think it's definitely possible. In terms of the entire package though, I'd say it's more than fair to say any NBA player is likely going to be far better than nearly every other single player they'd ever encounter on a street court.

In Fisher's case, we'd be talking about a supremely conditioned athlete. He's 6'1'' 210lbs and strong. Against regular folks, he'd likely run the floor for days and push at a heavy tempo. While his ballhandling might not be showy, it'd be extremely reliable. His passing would be smart and precise, not to mention firm and authoritative. Fisher is a career 37% three point shooter from 24 feet away. I believe the Rucker has an NBA line but it seems most street courts in America are high school lined (and perhaps college lined). That'd mean Fisher's triples in a street game would come to him like layups, not to mention he'd be a sure threat from at least four feet beyond the high school line.

Again at 6'1'' 210, Fisher would likely be able to bully normal street guards with strong and savvy post play. He'd likely be too quick or shifty for taller street defenders. If he didn't wear down a defender through ball-handling, he'd probably make his presence felt by moving without the ball with effective cuts and curls, not to mention filling the lane, rebounding, and running the floor at all times.

I've never played against a current NBA player so I suppose I'm just throwing stuff out there. I don't envision Derek Fisher shaking and baking while dunking on fools. But I don't think there'd be any way for folks to not be able to make a clear distinction as to who the NBA player was on the floor and who was not.

Whenever this topic comes up, I harken back to the early 2000's when I saw Mike Dunleavy Jr. play at Rucker Park on some late night ESPN2 show. He was coming off an underwhelming rookie year where he averaged 6 points a night as a spot up shooter of sorts. What became very apparent early in the Rucker game on ESPN2 was this: Mike Dunleavy Jr. was 6 foot freaking 9, 220 pounds and had range well beyond the NBA stripe. That means he was bombing from wherever he pleased, he was blocking shots because he was comparatively huge, and he was dunking with ease.


Glad someone realizes how it would really be. Everyone who thinks they could hold their own against ANY NBA player is a f ucking joke. Always pisses me off when people think they are even in the same galaxy game-wise as any NBA player.

[RazorBaLade]

How about someone like earl boykins or nate rob tho?

[Hammertime]

How about someone like earl boykins or nate rob tho?

Nate Robinson would just dunk over you. Remember, this is a dude who can almost jump over Dwight Howard. Never mind the kind of handles those two players have.

[tmacattack33]

I don't know about you, but an average pick up game a 6'1 220 lb dude built like that would be the center.


And now let's say that center is the second or third fastest on the court, has the best shooting ability by far, best handle, best passing ability, and best defense.


He'd score 50 easily.

[outbreak]

Unless you play ball professionally yourself your going to get destroyed. It won't be like the movies with dunks and crap from every player but they'll beat you with their skills and likely their physical play. There may be exceptions with some street ballers who could have made the league if things fell into place them but for the average players yeah Fisher would beat you. Remember when you see a bench warming NBA player go play in overseas leagues that contain most of those countries top talents and usually a bunch of division one college players who didn't make, they usually still dominate over there.

[Rake2204]

How about someone like earl boykins or nate rob tho?
I have to be completely honest and admit I've played against sub-5'8'' guys who could ball with excellent effectiveness. They weren't even necessarily college-level players (some were) but they were still able to make it work on mediocre courts filled with players 6-12 inches taller than them.

As such, I feel NBA skilled short guys would comparatively be able to fit in to any street court across America. And by fit in, I mean dominate. If we think about it, Earl Boykins has carved out a career around attacking and finishing over the most athletic seven footers in the world. Basically, if Boykins can make things work against the likes of Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum, Dwight Howard, Tim Duncan, and Shaquille O'Neal, I don't envision him struggling against any height thrown at him on the street.

Again to go back to the little guys I've played ball with, they were fast as hell. I find myself to be relatively quick, but I often struggled to keep myself in front of their shifty ballhandling. Often, my solution for these mediocre little guys would be to provide them space and make them shoot jump shots. That would clearly not be an option for defending guys like Boykins and Robinson, who'd also undoubtedly be faster than the fastest guys I've ever defended.

Further, even though Nate Robinson stands at 5'8'', he's clearly capable of playing above the rim. And folks have seen him bomb from 25+ first hand. He'd probably be more of a handful on a street court than Derek Fisher would be.

[sick_brah07]

The worst NBA player is still in the top 99.999% of every basketball player in the world. Does it mean Derek Fisher would arrive at Rucker Park and begin pulling off Hot Sauce moves and performing between-the-legs dunks? Nope. Would there be folks at a given park who may be faster than Fisher? Or stronger? Or more athletic? Or maybe finishing better in traffic? I think it's definitely possible. In terms of the entire package though, I'd say it's more than fair to say any NBA player is likely going to be far better than nearly every other single player they'd ever encounter on a street court.

In Fisher's case, we'd be talking about a supremely conditioned athlete. He's 6'1'' 210lbs and strong. Against regular folks, he'd likely run the floor for days and push at a heavy tempo. While his ballhandling might not be showy, it'd be extremely reliable. His passing would be smart and precise, not to mention firm and authoritative. Fisher is a career 37% three point shooter from 24 feet away. I believe the Rucker has an NBA line but it seems most street courts in America are high school lined (and perhaps college lined). That'd mean Fisher's triples in a street game would come to him like layups, not to mention he'd be a sure threat from at least four feet beyond the high school line.

Again at 6'1'' 210, Fisher would likely be able to bully normal street guards with strong and savvy post play. He'd likely be too quick or shifty for taller street defenders. If he didn't wear down a defender through ball-handling, he'd probably make his presence felt by moving without the ball with effective cuts and curls, not to mention filling the lane, rebounding, and running the floor at all times.

I've never played against a current NBA player so I suppose I'm just throwing stuff out there. I don't envision Derek Fisher shaking and baking while dunking on fools. But I don't think there'd be any way for folks to not be able to make a clear distinction as to who the NBA player was on the floor and who was not.

Whenever this topic comes up, I harken back to the early 2000's when I saw Mike Dunleavy Jr. play at Rucker Park on some late night ESPN2 show. He was coming off an underwhelming rookie year where he averaged 6 points a night as a spot up shooter of sorts. What became very apparent early in the Rucker game on ESPN2 was this: Mike Dunleavy Jr. was 6 foot freaking 9, 220 pounds and had range well beyond the NBA stripe. That means he was bombing from wherever he pleased, he was blocking shots because he was comparatively huge, and he was dunking with ease. Even the most average NBA players are on another level.


glad somebody understands what it takes to play serious ball

99.99% of people have never played against top notch basketball players, when you step onto the court with them or against them only then you realise how ridiculously good proffesional basketball players are let alone the cream of the crop (NBA Players)

[Rowe]

How about someone like earl boykins or nate rob tho?

Nate Robinson would destroy any normal person on the court with him, espescially if he was giving 100% effort to doing it. This is a dude who averages 11 PPG per 23 minutes in the NBA.....off the bench as a 5'8 player. Nate can create his shot off the dribble and put up points quickly against NBA players, let alone giving him the ability to do this on guys close to his size.

Not to mention hes arguably the most complete physical specimen in the NBA in that hes a NBA player who's built to play in the NFL with the athletic ability.

How are you going to stop this from posting you up or just breaking you down and driving to the basket?

http://i.imgur.com/r0p2H.jpg

Then he has a 43' vertical.

:biggums:

[Westbrook0]

How about someone like earl boykins or nate rob tho?

Oh my ****ing God. Please tell me you aren't seriously this dumb.

If these guys are balling against 6'8 freakish NBA athletes, then what in the **** do you think they would do to 6' out of shape average joes like us?

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[NBA4EVER]

This is a random summer league circuit game in Seattle, Washington that Nate Robinson played in. Had nothing to do with the NBA, I think he just wanted to hoop somewhere during the offseason.

But this is him vs average guys, does absolute work on all of them. Scored 55 points on them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVqxDaDXPRM

[Rowe]

glad somebody understands what it takes to play serious ball

99.99% of people have never played against top notch basketball players, when you step onto the court with them or against them only then you realise how ridiculously good proffesional basketball players are let alone the cream of the crop (NBA Players)
Truth.

I played some streetball against Isaiah Swann last year. You're like who is that, right? He played basketball at Florida State a few years ago and I think he got cut from a D-League team last season. He's only 6'1 but against normal dudes who play basketball as recreation he was treating everyone like they were middle schoolers. There was no way you could stop him from beating everyone down the floor to the basket and when he did he just pulled up and nailed 3's.:lol It was ridiculous. He played all 4 games of 21 because his conditioning was so far greater than everyone else being a professional athlete.

Edit: He's averaging 15 PPG in the German league right now

[BuGzBuNNy]

How about someone like earl boykins or nate rob tho?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKpRJpywm54

[Rowe]

This is a random summer league circuit game in Seattle, Washington that Nate Robinson played in. Had nothing to do with the NBA, I think he just wanted to hoop somewhere during the offseason.

But this is him vs average guys, does absolute work on all of them. Scored 55 points on them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVqxDaDXPRM

:biggums: :biggums:

Look at that shit. :lol

They're guarding him as tough as they can and he's playing around with them and still beasting. He did a turnaround from the corner 3 and it went all net at 0:41. Thats why he put up 17 PPG for us a few years ago.

[BuGzBuNNy]

I played with a dude years out of the league..at least 10 years out(I'm sure more) at some type of local summer basketball organization and even aging like he was(Don't think he ever actually sprinted) he was far and away better than everyone else. He basically jogged the court and drained 3's all game..trash talk and all while everyone else was tired.

[I<3NBA]

OP is a dumb fk.

[CavaliersFTW]

http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/CsL1W.png OP

[andgar923]

I heard this before but i cant buy it. Yea I a bench warmer is still one of the top players in the country and could probably school any regular ***** at basketball.
But i have a hard time believing ****** like Derek Fisher, would go to the Rucker or some shit and become Michael Jordan:coleman:

I've played vs cats that were in training camps, dudes that played summer league games with some teams.

And they wiped the floor with everybody.

And this was vs fairly good players (some D1 college level players).

Fisher's game wouldn't translate as well in a Rucker park environment. But he'd still probably be the best player low key.I've played vs cats that were similar to him in both playing style and body, and even tho they were old, they still killed people. I'm sure Fisher is a superior player (by far) than somebody like him. YOu forget that Fisher is going up against players that are younger and faster, so naturally he appears to be weak. But have him at your local gym and he molests everybody there.

[chocolatethunder]

I heard this before but i cant buy it. Yea I a bench warmer is still one of the top players in the country and could probably school any regular ***** at basketball.
But i have a hard time believing ****** like Derek Fisher, would go to the Rucker or some shit and become Michael Jordan:coleman:
K, I don't know how old you are but judging by the stupidity of your comments I'd guess that a) you're maybe 18 and b) you've never played against anyone who plays or has played in the NBA. I have, and I've played against/with tons of guys who play in Europe. You can believe that Derek Fisher would crush pretty much anyone Rucker could throw at him. Here's the deal, in the NBA you're watching the best go up against the best. So yeah, a bench warmer in the NBA is still a total stud anywhere else. I have played against lots of pros and they all have at least one thing that separates them from the average baller. Almost all of them are incredibly strong and I mean incredibly strong. I don't care if they look diesel or not, trust me they are strong. They are also quick as shit. I don't care if some NBA bum looks slow against Westbrook, if that bum was at Rucker he'd be the fastest dude on the court. Lastly, almost every NBA player can shoot so much better than some anyone else. I don't care if they shoot a good % in the league, compared to anyone else they can shoot. So to answer your question , yeah they'd school just about anyone.

[Cali Syndicate]

How about someone like earl boykins or nate rob tho?

I wonder how a 5'5" guy makes the NBA? Maybe cause he's a fcking damn good basketball player?

[Rake2204]

Truth.

I played some streetball against Isaiah Swann last year. You're like who is that, right? He played basketball at Florida State a few years ago and I think he got cut from a D-League team last season. He's only 6'1 but against normal dudes who play basketball as recreation he was treating everyone like they were middle schoolers. There was no way you could stop him from beating everyone down the floor to the basket and when he did he just pulled up and nailed 3's.:lol It was ridiculous. He played all 4 games of 21 because his conditioning was so far greater than everyone else being a professional athlete.

Edit: He's averaging 15 PPG in the German league right now
I remember Isaiah Swann being a filthy dunker. There's a nasty one on YouTube but I don't think it's the same dunk I'm thinking of: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO6i1LZZTaA. I may have the other dunk on a tape somewhere. I'll give it a look and see if I can upload it.

[boxclever]

This thread comes up time to time and the answer still remains the same. The worst player in the NBA would drop an asy 40+ points vs your average joe. To think otherwise is ludricrous:oldlol:

[stolper]

Nate Robinson looks like he's playing in slow motion at that game where he dropped 55.

[Draz]

I don't think the starting 5 bobcats can win against a high school team.

[stephanieg]

It takes a lot of work to be an NBA scrub.

[The Big Skinny]

Yes..recently i guarded a former OK St. Forward at a gym in NYC. I looked him up and saw he was a career backup with a career high of 11 pts (in college). Dude was unstoppable. Soo quick for being so big. Couldn't do anything against him really. And this guy wasn't really close to the NBA. Imagine what an NBA caliber player could do.

[Westbrook0]

Yes..recently i guarded a former OK St. Forward at a gym in NYC. I looked him up and saw he was a career backup with a career high of 11 pts (in college). Dude was unstoppable. Soo quick for being so big. Couldn't do anything against him really. And this guy wasn't really close to the NBA. Imagine what an NBA caliber player could do.

Hey who was it? I went to OSU and knew a lot of the guys. Was it Anthony Brown? He was from NY.

[highwhey]

Nate Robinson would destroy any normal person on the court with him, espescially if he was giving 100% effort to doing it. This is a dude who averages 11 PPG per 23 minutes in the NBA.....off the bench as a 5'8 player. Nate can create his shot off the dribble and put up points quickly against NBA players, let alone giving him the ability to do this on guys close to his size.

Not to mention hes arguably the most complete physical specimen in the NBA in that hes a NBA player who's built to play in the NFL with the athletic ability.

How are you going to stop this from posting you up or just breaking you down and driving to the basket?

http://i.imgur.com/r0p2H.jpg

Then he has a 43' vertical.

:biggums:
that's the average ish vertical :facepalm

[gtfomyface]

I don't think the starting 5 bobcats can win against a high school team.
:facepalm how do you think they got into the nba, they were all standouts in high school/college. just because they can't compete with the best of the best, doesn't mean they won't demolish any high school team out there :oldlol:

[gtfomyface]

that's the average ish vertical :facepalm

average ish vertical is 43 feet? :biggums:

[scm5]

Unless you're a D1 top notch baller, I don't think you can hang with any NBA player.

[flipogb]

I don't personally know anyone that wouldn't get owned by Fisher, and I make fun of Fisher everyday

[andgar923]

K, I don't know how old you are but judging by the stupidity of your comments I'd guess that a) you're maybe 18 and b) you've never played against anyone who plays or has played in the NBA. I have, and I've played against/with tons of guys who play in Europe. You can believe that Derek Fisher would crush pretty much anyone Rucker could throw at him. Here's the deal, in the NBA you're watching the best go up against the best. So yeah, a bench warmer in the NBA is still a total stud anywhere else. I have played against lots of pros and they all have at least one thing that separates them from the average baller. Almost all of them are incredibly strong and I mean incredibly strong. I don't care if they look diesel or not, trust me they are strong. They are also quick as shit. I don't care if some NBA bum looks slow against Westbrook, if that bum was at Rucker he'd be the fastest dude on the court. Lastly, almost every NBA player can shoot so much better than some anyone else. I don't care if they shoot a good % in the league, compared to anyone else they can shoot. So to answer your question , yeah they'd school just about anyone.

LOLLL

This.

I played with Corey Benjamin and it was a joke for him to be out there. It was like me playing against a group of 10 year old girls. He appeared to be 8 feet tall out on the court, crazy shit.

[sipitri]

There was a video on YT (I can't find it anymore) with Chris Andersen going against a fan (or a friend of his) in a gym.
Threes were RAINING. He was hitting jumpers like Larry Bird, I was like:"Damn, I wonder why he's not shooting this kind of shots in nba games, he seem so comfortable from midrange".

If Chris andersen can look like Ray Allen I wonder what a player who can actually shoot like Fisher can do.

[Aussie Outcast]

I've played against Patty Mills once before. Was absolutely embarrassing.. dude was just running past me in a straight line in transition.. in the half court it wasnt much better.

Also played with / against George Hill in practice a couple of times. That guy was Killing it. One of the young guys asked to play him one on one after training.

George gave him the ball to start.. he made two jumpers without George playing too hard then missed the 3rd. He then proceeded to rattle off I think 10 in a row without getting out of first gear.

To answer you're question yes... awful NBA players are still amazing at basketball and are better than you.

[Rowe]

that's the average ish vertical :facepalm
Damnit. My bad. I meant 43 inches.

[Toizumi]

The sorriest NBA players? The sorriest Eurocup (not euroleague) players would crush us. These guys are proffesionals, they get paid to play/work out. For most of us, playing ball is a hobby.

When I still played ball I hated it when I played with the senior team and we faced old teams with one or two guys that used to be pro's (Dutch league), but took a step back because of age. Guys played smart, strong..

I remember seeing Orien Greene (former Celtic) play with the Amsterdam team.. definitely their most skilled/talented player. He wasn't a great team player and didn't really fit in with the style of play. Even came of the bench. But he was faster, stronger than all of the guys on the court... And he was an NBA scrub :biggums: (one or two poor seasons). That NBA scrub was twice as good as most players in the Dutch league who are all like five times as good as I am.

[andgar923]

This type of ignorant thread reminds me of cats that say dumb shit like "if i ever see Fernando Vargas I'll beat him up".

Seriously?

Fernando Vargas would laugh at somebody hitting him, and he'd knock you out before you even realize it.

[miggyme1]

I think it depends on the player.yall think sheldon williams would be beastin in a gym full of regular people? I dont see it

What bout kwame brown? Hell no

Id say 98% of the league is full of players who would mop us but not 100%.

I cant see joel anthony moppin scrubs...... Joel anthony?haha

Reggie evans?
Hasheem thabett?
Jared jeffries?
Steve novak?


I think wat makes nba players so special is that they are 6 feet and over and fast and strong.


Im 5'8 if i was guardin kobe 6'6 wat chance do i really have? To tall.



If most players in the nba were 5'5 - 6 feet. I think theyd just be very good or extremely good players.


But at 6 feet - 7 feet they become gods



Dont get me wrong there are nba players under 6 feet that i know would mop us but wat im tryin to say is most people who play pickup ball cant play defense at all so of course a nba player will look like mj in his prime.



About two summers ago i played against a kid who at the time was playing for middle tennessee state. He was about 5'11.guy had blow by speed,insane hops ( he was windmilling on fastbreaks).but u know wat really set him apart? It wasnt his offense......it was his DEFENSE.



He literally looked like lebron out there on defense! Steals,blocks,rebounds. He locked me up defensively on many possessions. Frustrated the hell out of me cuz im use to blowing by people and gettin to the rim with ease.



But yea his offense was good but trust me nothing special.



About 4 years ago i played against a guy who played overseas in austrailia.smh.smh.smh he was id say 6'2ish.damn my stomach hurting just remembering how he f.u.c.k.e.d the whole gym up that day. He had the ai crossover on speed dial with the kobe fadeaway. This dude was literally walking up court 30 feet behind the 3pt line crossover fadeaway swish.the few times he did drive it he would do a behind the back pass or a crazy no look to a wide open guy which led me to believe he was a pg overseas. But the guy was awesome.

[Punpun]

I don't think the starting 5 bobcats can win against a high school team.

They would wipe the floor with any college team. :oldlol:

[Shepseskaf]

I think it depends on the player.yall think sheldon williams would be beastin in a gym full of regular people? I dont see it

What bout kwame brown? Hell no

Id say 98% of the league is full of players who would mop us but not 100%.
:facepalm :roll:

[Rake2204]

There was a video on YT (I can't find it anymore) with Chris Andersen going against a fan (or a friend of his) in a gym.
Threes were RAINING. He was hitting jumpers like Larry Bird, I was like:"Damn, I wonder why he's not shooting this kind of shots in nba games, he seem so comfortable from midrange".

If Chris andersen can look like Ray Allen I wonder what a player who can actually shoot like Fisher can do.
Yeah, I thought about posting that earlier in this thread but held off because last time I did, some folks made fun of the guys he was playing against. His main opponent in that video is a 6'4''-6'5'' guy who seemed to be a pretty solid suburban basketball player for a small city (judging from a mixtape he put together of himself in high school games). Predictably, some folks here said the guy sucked and their own skills were way better so Andersen's video didn't really prove anything to them.

Either way, even if his opponent in this video is slow afoot, there's no denying Chris Andersen is taking one dribble from the three point line and reverse power dunking without actually truly beating his defender. And yes, he is dropping triples: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py3-Ds7-gAs

For what it's worth, the guy in the knee brace really has no interest in trying to stop Andersen. The main guy though, it seems he wanted Andersen to go as hard as he could and in turn, he tried to give Andersen all he had.

[Calabis]

I played against several Division I guys and could hold my own, but then I'll never forget the day I played against the "rookie" Chris Webber....holy hell that shit was ridiculous...I never seen a guy that damn big, move that damn fast....strength was ridiculous, where normal guys are pulling up for jumpers, he's taking off and shitting on folks.....Lindsey Hunter, I'll just say thank god I didn't have to guard him, dude was lightning in a bottle. Tim Hardaway would play half ass and do basically anything he wanted, thick and strong...I remember Lindsey shook Hardaway and the people in the gym "oohed and aww'd" Then Tim let it be known why he was a all star...that crossover was ridiculous in person. Although, I didnt get a chance to play against him, Mike Bibby was destroying people left and right at open gym @ U of A, he crossed this guy up so damn bad, the dude didn't even move and just fell down...you had to see it...:roll: Michael Dickerson...just move out of that damn dudes way.....I could jump pretty good, use to be able to touch the top of square, but him and a guy named Mark McCall(UTEP) let me know what jumping really was...those dudes could flat out fly. All these experiences, just let me know that those dudes where a completely different level......:bowdown: to any dude that can make the NBA

[RaininTwos]

I've played against former D-leaguers and euro players, these dudes WERE NICE. I didn't get destroyed but these dudes were cold blooded man. I remember I was playing one on one with the former d-leaguer and he just took over at a certain point and I really couldnt do much after that. It went from being 5-5 to like 10-7 in no time. On the last point he had me looking silly.

[Pushxx]

A big factor is NBA players are so fundamentally sound compared to the average joe that they can do anything they want with the addition of size and speed.

Every NBA player's first step is gonna beat their defender.

[Dwade305]

http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/CsL1W.png OP
:lol

[ace23]

I'm pretty confident that I can beat Steve Novak, Ilgauskas types off the dribble.

[ImmortalNemesis]

I'm pretty confident that I can beat Steve Novak, Ilgauskas types off the dribble.


:facepalm

[Mamba]

i have a feeling i could take yao ming.

oh i definitely wouldn't be able to stop him on offense, but i know im quicker than that dude and would be able to get around him pretty quickly.

also i feel i could ball on that really fat dude that was playing for the raptors, who weighed in at like 310 pounds and said the scale was broken and was out of the league 2 years later. can't remember his name for the life of me.

[Calabis]

I'm pretty confident that I can beat Steve Novak, Ilgauskas types off the dribble.

If its make it take it, you wouldn't get the chance too

[tommyhtc]

i have a feeling i could take yao ming.

oh i definitely wouldn't be able to stop him on offense, but i know im quicker than that dude and would be able to get around him pretty quickly.

also i feel i could ball on that really fat dude that was playing for the raptors, who weighed in at like 310 pounds and said the scale was broken and was out of the league 2 years later. can't remember his name for the life of me.
oliver miller?

[DJ Leon Smith]

When I was in my late teens/early 20s I regularly played against a bunch of guys who couldn't quite make the league or got cut from the NBA (guys like Dwayne McClain, Andre Moore, Adrian Branch) and they schooled everyone they played against. The gap between decent amateur to "sorry" pro is massive.

[ace23]

:facepalm
I hope you're facepalming at yourself. Any large HS/AAU level or higher guard who can't take a kneeless, 7'2 40-year-old off the dribble should probably hang up the sneakers.

Zydrunas is only in the league for his height at this point, and Novak has simply mastered the art of shooting the basketball. Does not make them Godly at every facet of the game.

They'd probably be more efficient than I in a team setting, though.

[Rake2204]

I hope you're facepalming at yourself. Any large HS/AAU level or higher guard who can't take a kneeless, 7'2 40-year-old off the dribble should probably hang up the sneakers.

Zydrunas is only in the league for his height at this point, and Novak has simply mastered the art of shooting the basketball. Does not make them Godly at every facet of the game.

They'd probably be more efficient than me in a team setting, though.
Even though they are slow afoot, players standing 7'3'' cover a lot of real estate, particularly if a game commences on an amateur-sized court (19'9'' three point line). On courts with those dimensions, plays often begin closer to the basket (folks strangely always use the three point line as a set-up point at all levels) and from there, even when beating Zydrunas off the dribble, he's always just about one giant step from recovering at the basket. It'd be a claustrophobic situation. Surely, Z's insane immobility right now in current day might create a strangely unique NBA player situation, but I still feel that'd open up only one weakness, and that'd be Ilgauskas' slim possibility of being completely blown by defensively. And that's what it'd have to be every time, a complete blow by, because if you're 6'5'' or under and only half get a step on Z, he's not going to let you get a clean shot off. . .because he's almost 7 and a half feet tall.

I don't put Steve Novak in the same category as Ilgauskas. Novak, for as slow as he seems against NBA players, would still surely be quick enough, in shape enough, strong enough, tall enough, and surely nasty enough offensively to combat anyone in a game of 1-on-1. There's not a strange, rare shortcoming (like Z's speed - which I still feel he'd make up for) that'd affect Novak against regular folk.

In terms of a full-game, I'm not sure a lot of people here are correctly accounting for the shape these players are in. If we were completely brutally honest with ourselves, how many of you guys honestly run the floor in every given situation of a pick-up game? Ever jog after a turnover when you're not right in the middle of the play? Ever chill in the backcourt once instead of running back on defense because the other team appears to have a fast break advantage? Are you always taking off in a sprint when your team snares a defensive rebound?

In my case, even when playing against low level Euro-players, it was a solid reality check to see firsthand how hard and how frequently real-deal players run the floor. They will run opponents into the ground and then keep going. I feel on top of everything else, Steve Novak would be ready to run at every given moment, converting layups, spot up triples, garbage points everywhere, etc.

[pegasus]

I'd make Fisher my bitch.:pimp: