The 2011-12 All-NBA teams were revealed today

[insidehoops]

The Miami Heat

[DuMa]

2011-12 ALL-NBA FIRST TEAM

Position Player, Team (1st Team Votes) Points

Forward LeBron James, Miami (118) 596

Forward Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City (117) 591

Center Dwight Howard, Orlando (75) 476

Guard Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers (104) 568

Guard Chris Paul, L.A. Clippers (74) 484

2011-12 ALL-NBA SECOND TEAM

Position Player, Team (1st Team Votes) Points

Forward Kevin Love, Minnesota (16) 365

Forward Blake Griffin, L.A. Clippers 170

Center Andrew Bynum, L.A. Lakers (33) 400

Guard Tony Parker, San Antonio (41) 367

Guard Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City (5) 239

2011-12 ALL-NBA THIRD TEAM

Position Player, Team (1st Team Votes) Points

Forward Carmelo Anthony, New York (1) 154

Forward Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas 136

Center Tyson Chandler, New York (4) 60

Guard Dwyane Wade, Miami (1) 235

Guard Rajon Rondo, Boston (4) 142

[DTreats]

Blake over Melo and Dirk? On what planet:oldlol:

[PJR]

Lmao how the **** was LeBron not unanimous?

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

looks about right to me.

[Clippersfan86]

First Team:

Dwight Howard
Lebron James
Kevin Durant
Kobe Bryant
Chris Paul


Second Team:

Andrew Bynum
Blake Griffin
Kevin Love
Tony Parker
Russell Westbrook


Third Team:

Tyson Chandler
Dirk Nowitzki
Carmelo Anthony
Dwyane Wade
Rajon Rondo



For those that don't want to read through the article.

[jlip]

Lmao how the **** was LeBron not unanimous?
This

[Clippersfan86]

Blake over Melo and Dirk? On what planet:oldlol:

In the opinions of NBA coaches :applause: .

Edit:

NVM this one was by sportswriters.

[DuMa]

i have a problem with blake being on the 2nd team. he did not deserve it over Dirk or KG

[RaininTwos]

westbrook>>>Kobe

[Clippersfan86]

i have a problem with blake being on the 2nd team. he did not deserve it over Dirk or KG

21/11/3 and a better record.

vs

22/7/2 and a worse record.


No brainer and this is always how it's been judged.

[StateOfMind12]

Few changes I would make....

Duncan or Garnett should have made it over Chandler at Center for the 3rd team.
Garnett or Pierce should have made it over Melo at Forward for the 3rd team.
Westbrook or Parker should have made it over Kobe at Guard for the 1st team.
Bynum should have made it over Howard at Center for the 1st team.

Garnett could be listed as either Forward or Center this season since he played both.

The rest is about right I suppose.

[donald_trump]

how did westbrook not make first team. utter trash. kobe gets in every year.

[KG215]

i have a problem with blake being on the 2nd team. he did not deserve it over Dirk or KG


This could get interesting. This may turn into a mega argument with Clippersfan thread. Those are always interesting.

[AlphaWolf24]

yup...yup.

[KG215]

how did westbrook not make first team. utter trash. kobe gets in every year.

Because Kobe put up better numbers and was the best player on the 3rd seed in the West. Sorry, I love Russ, but Kobe deserved 1st team over him this year.

[Clippersfan86]

This could get interesting. This may turn into a mega argument with Clippersfan thread. Those are always interesting.

I'm going to refrain from doing that... just sad that anytime anything good happens to the Clippers they aren't deserving.

These awards have always been based on better stats+better team record. Griffin was better than Dirk in both regards so it's unfair to act like they should switch All NBA teams. It's not like Dirk got shafted... he's on the next team.

[alenleomessi]

With so many holes in his game ( defense, free throws, mid-range, post-game ) he still gets a place on the 2nd All-NBA team.

Don't tell me the sky is the limit when there are footprints on the moon :bowdown:

[donald_trump]

Because Kobe put up better numbers and was the best player on the 3rd seed in the West. Sorry, I love Russ, but Kobe deserved 1st team over him this year.

kobe played like ass this year. he deserves the second team.

[Clippersfan86]

BTW anybody upset about Griffin's placing just know he's the ONLY player that didn't get a single first team vote and most of the other players on second team had double the overall votes he did. So he basically barely made second team.

[The Iron Sheik]

kobe played like ass this year. he deserves the second team.

Let me hit that shit you smokin

[Booz Vivic]

Whoohoo LerBon made the All-NBA 1st team.
1x MVP, 1x All-NBA defense team 1st, 1x All-NBA 1st team, 1x All-Star berth, 1x FMVP (soon to be)
what a seazon.

But where the **** is Chris Brosh???

[jlip]

Whoohoo LerBon made the All-NBA 1st team.
1x MVP, 1x All-NBA defense team 1st, 1x All-NBA 1st team, 1x All-Star berth, 1x FMVP (soon to be)
what a seazon.

But where the **** is Chris Brosh???
:confusedshrug:

Please tell me that this is a joke.

[KG215]

kobe played like ass this year. he deserves the second team.

Right...Kobe sucked this year.

Kobe: 27.9-5.4-4.6 on .430/.303/.845
Westbrook: 23.6-4.6-5.5 on .457/.316/.823

Westbrook has a slight edge on FG% and 3P% and assists. Kobe has him by 5 points in ppg and rebounds. Sorry, I love Westbrook, but Kobe probably deserves 1st team this year over him.

I didn't realize Kobe shot just 43% from the floor, though. Wow.

[OKCThunderUP]

westbrook>>>Kobe

+1

Check this out:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=bryanko01&y1=2012&p2=westbru01&y2=2012

[arifgokcen]

Blake griffin getting the nod over other forwards is not that bad.

What really surprised me is that lebron didnt get full 1st team votes.Somebody thinks he is not worthy of 1st team.Wow.

[roffie]

i agree, westbrook > kobe

[Clippersfan86]

Blake griffin getting the nod over other forwards is not that bad.

What really surprised me is that lebron didnt get full 1st team votes.Somebody thinks he is not worthy of 1st team.Wow.

Probably Cleveland writers :confusedshrug:

[chazzy]

Not bad, Dirk was better than Griffin though

[Clippersfan86]

Not bad, Dirk was better than Griffin though

Just curious how. Blake Griffin had better stats, better regular season record and got further in the playoffs. This year... Dirk has ZERO case.

[Stern]

Chandler over Marc.

Shows the influenceof New York Media.

[chazzy]

Just curious how. Blake Griffin had better stats, better regular season record
Better record credit goes to CP3 since he's the 2nd option, and Blake had better numbers than Dirk last year as well but he wasn't a better player.

[dunksby]

Westbrook over Kobe
Dirk or KG over Griffin. seriously dude cannot make FTs, does not have a post game or a jumpshot, I cannot honestly call him a basketball player yet.

[Clippersfan86]

Better record credit goes to CP3 since he's the 2nd option, and Blake had better numbers than Dirk last year as well but he wasn't a better player.

Griffin played less minutes and took less shots which is why we saw a drop in points per game. He increased his efficiency and improved his defense a little bit while Dirk declined even more. THIS year Dirk isn't better, PERIOD. Tyson Chandler and their incredible depth was a huge reason for the Mavs success last year and nobody discredited Dirk for that.

So just because Griffin has a superstar with him doesn't mean he literally CAN'T be considered better than Dirk. Mavs had a subpar season led by Dirk, their star.

[blablabla]

Chandler over Marc.

Shows the influenceof New York Media.
DPOY

[RRR3]

First Team:

Dwight Howard-Obviously
Lebron James-Obviously
Kevin Durant-Obviously
Kobe Bryant-Yeah, can see Westbrook here, but Kobe works too
Chris Paul-Obviously


Second Team:

Andrew Bynum-Yes
Blake Griffin-Too high
Kevin Love-Yes
Tony Parker-Suppose so
Russell Westbrook-Yep, argument for 1st team tho


Third Team:

Tyson Chandler-:biggums: I like Chandler, but he's not better than Marc Gasol, KG, Duncan, or Al Jefferson.
Dirk Nowitzki-Yeah, would be higher if not for horrible start
Carmelo Anthony-No
Dwyane Wade-Eh. I might have him higher, but injuries lowered him I suppose
Rajon Rondo-Yeah



For those that don't want to read through the article.
Actually not too bad this year. Now the all-defense teams....:coleman:

[ProfessorMurder]

Why are people sucking on Chandler's balls so hard?

[Clippersfan86]

"Griffin was the only player in the NBA in 2011-12 to average over 20.0 points, 10.5 rebounds and 3.0 assists. Griffin shot 54.9 percent from the field and finished the season 4th in the league with 41 double-doubles, 6th in rebounds, 7th in field goal percentage and 10th in scoring."

[chazzy]

Griffin played less minutes and took less shots which is why we saw a drop in points per game. He increased his efficiency and improved his defense a little bit while Dirk declined even more. THIS year Dirk isn't better, PERIOD. Tyson Chandler and their incredible depth was a huge reason for the Mavs success last year and nobody discredited Dirk for that.

So just because Griffin has a superstar with him doesn't mean he literally CAN'T be considered better than Dirk. Mavs had a subpar season led by Dirk, their star.
And the Mavs would be in the lottery if they swapped Dirk for Griffin. I just thought Dirk was a better individual player and the Clippers would be a bigger threat if they had him instead.

[Heavincent]

Blake Griffin should be on third team. Besides that, I agree with just about everything.

[derb2k2]

Kobe in first again. what a f*cking joke lol

[Legends66NBA7]

It's a pretty good list.

I don't get the Chandler hate.

[Sarcastic]

Few changes I would make....

Duncan or Garnett should have made it over Chandler at Center for the 3rd team.
Garnett or Pierce should have made it over Melo at Forward for the 3rd team.
Westbrook or Parker should have made it over Kobe at Guard for the 1st team.
Bynum should have made it over Howard at Center for the 1st team.

Garnett could be listed as either Forward or Center this season since he played both.

The rest is about right I suppose.

Bolded are not centers. They do not get to reap the rewards of being listed as the greatest power forwards of all time, then conveniently shove them back to center when the forward position becomes log jammed.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Bolded are not centers. They do not get to reap the rewards of being listed as the greatest power forwards of all time, then conveniently shove them back to center when the forward position becomes log jammed.
Garnett is listed as a center-forward on nba.com, has spent minutes at center every game he's played and has started every game at center since the All-Star break. He has not started playing center for the sake of accolades (he hasn't gotten any awards this season anyhow), he's done it because the guys that were counted on to play center have been hurt so the Celtics need him to play big.

It's not a big deal though, KG has plenty of ASGs and All-NBAs, it's not like a lot of people are saying he's inferior to Chandler (I hope). He was probably listed as a forward on the ballot.

[D-Wade316]

Where's James Harden? Dude is a beast. Better than Kobe this season.

[chazzy]

Where's James Harden? Dude is a beast. Better than Kobe this season.
15 y/o John Hollinger strikes again :bowdown:

[FF1]

Switch Parker or Westbrook for Kobe and switch Dirk and Griffin and it looks pretty good.

Hell, take Griffin off and put Lamarcus on 3rd team.

[RRR3]

15 y/o John Hollinger strikes again :bowdown:
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
(sorry Dwade couldn't resist)
http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/997d68c771330450522ca899e39fcf8d.jpg

[D-Wade316]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
(sorry Dwade couldn't resist)
http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/997d68c771330450522ca899e39fcf8d.jpg
:coleman:

I haven't read an ESPN article for like a month. :lol

[RRR3]

:coleman:
LOL I'm just messing with ya:cheers:

[BlackVVaves]

Where's James Harden? Dude is a beast. Better than Kobe this season.

You know how I know you're dumb? :oldlol:

[Heavincent]

Where's James Harden? Dude is a beast. Better than Kobe this season.

Nope. He might have been better than Wade though.

[Snoop_Cat]

Griffin cannot close out games like a superstar can. In the crunch time in the clutch, the ball is in Paul's hand because they know that he's the best player.

How can you not argue that Griffin is THE most empty stat-padder in the game. He's not given the ball in isolation type of plays in the clutch because he has zero post game, can't shoot free throws for sh*t and can't create plays at 10% the level that someone like KG or Duncan did at the PF spot. Not to mention the fact that he plays zero defense whatsoever. Anyone with half a brain can see the Clippers' success this year was almost entirely the result of Chris Paul coming to the Clippers. I don't hate the Clips at all, I think Paul deserved 1st team.

[Whoah10115]

Listen, there is nothing to argue. This list sucks.




How Dirk and CARMELO make the list ahead of Josh Smith and Paul Pierce...and ahead of JOSH SMITH, who should have made the 2nd Team (Griffin should have made 3rd).



Carmelo plays like garbage. Has a great month, and suddenly he put together an All-NBA season. Absolute garbage.



And Tyson..I appreciate the hell out of you. But you should not have been on the All-NBA Team. You all can save your KG's and your Duncan's. Marc Gasol should have been there.




Rondo misses 14 games...no worries, cuz Wade misses 17. And somehow, even with Rondo not playing as well as he did last year, he makes it. And Wade makes it. Harden doesn't make it. And worse, Steve Nash is screwed.



And Rose has more points than of the next guards...that's embarrassing.

[Clippersfan86]

Griffin cannot close out games like a superstar can. In the crunch time in the clutch, the ball is in Paul's hand because they know that he's the best player.

How can you not argue that Griffin is THE most empty stat-padder in the game. He's not given the ball in isolation type of plays in the clutch because he has zero post game, can't shoot free throws for sh*t and can't create plays at 10% the level that someone like KG or Duncan did at the PF spot. Not to mention the fact that he plays zero defense whatsoever. Anyone with half a brain can see the Clippers' success this year was almost entirely the result of Chris Paul coming to the Clippers. I don't hate the Clips at all, I think Paul deserved 1st team.

If what you're saying is true.. and the entire Clippers turnaround is a result of Paul's play... then you feel CP3 should have won the MVP award no question?

[Whoah10115]

Bolded are not centers. They do not get to reap the rewards of being listed as the greatest power forwards of all time, then conveniently shove them back to center when the forward position becomes log jammed.




Duncan is listed as a F/C and has played center the last 3 years.




Where's James Harden? Dude is a beast. Better than Kobe this season.




Wade took Harden's spot.

[#1SportsFan86]

Why are people sucking on Chandler's balls so hard?

He's plays for the Knicks that why...when he was playing for the Mavs he wasn't even talked about that much.

[Salazaar]

Blake Griffin on 2nd team? :wtf:
No Duncan? :wtf:

God, some of this year's awards/selections have been just awful :facepalm

[ILLsmak]

Why are people sucking on Chandler's balls so hard?

I think because he was the only constant on a NY team everyone wants to see as a contender or soon-to-be-contender.

-Smak

[PyrrhusX]

Good choices.

[Whoah10115]

Something is wrong with this. 120 people vote. There are 5 positions per team. So there should be 600 total 1st Team votes. There are only 593 mentioned.



I already assumed that some people voted Kevin Love as a C (5 open votes between Lebron and Durant, and Love gets 16 and Melo another).



But there is something missing. Maybe some of the guys who missed being on any of the teams haven't had their 1st team votes listed. But there are 7 missing votes.

[Snoop_Cat]

If what you're saying is true.. and the entire Clippers turnaround is a result of Paul's play... then you feel CP3 should have won the MVP award no question?

Not necessarily, just because Paul was the biggest reason for the Clippers' improvement doesn't mean that I think that he is deserving of the MVP award.

I think the MVP award can largely be considered a combination of most valuable and best player in the world, and I agree with that thinking. While Paul was the key cog in my opinion, there is no doubt in my mind that James deserved the MVP award.

For one, though Paul improved the Clippers, LeBron couldn't really improve the Heat as much from last year because he had been a part of their nucleus last year. However, he proved to me to be as valuable to the Heat as CP3 is to the Clips because he continuously carried the team throughout the season, particularly when Wade was hurt. Like CP3, if James doesn't perform at a high level, the Heat stink. Not to mention the fact that he played DPOY caliber defense.

In addition, I thought that overall as a player James is/was superior to CP3 in almost every aspect. Also, statistically speaking, he was better (though it's iffy to compare across positions) and had less off nights than Paul. I do think CP3 was rightfully awarded 1st team All-NBA but he did not deserve 1st defense at all and James was the right choice for MVP.

[Snoop_Cat]

Something is wrong with this. 120 people vote. There are 5 positions per team. So there should be 600 total 1st Team votes. There are only 593 mentioned.



I already assumed that some people voted Kevin Love as a C (5 open votes between Lebron and Durant, and Love gets 16 and Melo another).



But there is something missing. Maybe some of the guys who missed being on any of the teams haven't had their 1st team votes listed. But there are 7 missing votes.

Could've gone to people who didn't make any of the teams maybe?

[Shep]

once again no love for josh smith, who should have been second team all-nba and top 4 in mvp voting

team 1
C Dwight Howard
F LeBron James
F Kevin Durant
G Chris Paul
G Russell Westbrook

team 2
C Marc Gasol
F Josh Smith
F Blake Griffin
G Kobe Bryant
G Tony Parker

team 3
C Al Jefferson
F Pau Gasol
F Serge Ibaka
G Rajon Rondo
G Dwyane Wade

[hawkfan]

once again no love for josh smith, who should have been second team all-nba and top 4 in mvp voting

team 1
C Dwight Howard
F LeBron James
F Kevin Durant
G Chris Paul
G Russell Westbrook

team 2
C Marc Gasol
F Josh Smith
F Blake Griffin
G Kobe Bryant
G Tony Parker

team 3
C Al Jefferson
F Pau Gasol
F Serge Ibaka
G Rajon Rondo
G Dwyane Wade

Josh Smith was robbed again. Should have been second or third team All-NBA.

Stern really hates him.

[Alamo]

List was on point for the most part. But Duncan should be up there somewhere, oh well..

[Bigsmoke]

i have a problem with blake being on the 2nd team. he did not deserve it over Dirk or KG

When u think about it, Blake had a better season than Dirk did.

[Whoah10115]

Could've gone to people who didn't make any of the teams maybe?



Like I said, in the vote totals I've seen, none of the players who missed had a 1st Team vote noted.