How to beat the Spurs?

[GoRapz]

Lets say your on the coaching staff of either OKC/MIA/BOS...what the **** is going through your head??

Have you guys seen any flaws so far in this Spurs team that could cost them a series??

Best bet is to hope they go cold from the field :lol

[Kingwillball]

Lets say your on the coaching staff of either OKC/MIA/BOS...what the **** is going through your head??

Have you guys seen any flaws so far in this Spurs team that could cost them a series??

Best bet is to hope they go cold from the field :lol


Yup I saw them Tonight

[Kurosawa0]

Go small and have a fast rotating defense on the perimeter.

[reppy]

Spurs were getting beat on rebounds all night. OKC was quicker to the ball. If they could combine that rebounding with any sort of offensive rhythm then they would be very dangerous in this series.

[icewill36]

the spurs have been fortunate they have been able to avoid teams that give them trouble (grizz, lakers)

grizz beat them up, force turnovers, control the glass and tempo. its not so easy to make all those 3s when youre forced to grind it in a half court game

[Bigsmoke]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDH1qyLrZD4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90VjbqD9Vxw

[Alamo]

Injure Ginobili, Parker, And Duncan. That's like the only way they will lose.

[DuMa]

switch everything on defense. slow down the game.

[ihoopallday]

Have a low post threat. Seriously, that's their only weakness.

[Kingwillball]

the spurs have been fortunate they have been able to avoid teams that give them trouble (grizz, lakers)

grizz beat them up, force turnovers, control the glass and tempo. its not so easy to make all those 3s when youre forced to grind it in a half court game

Hmm.. Sounds exactly like a team from South Beach..

[AMISTILLILL]

the spurs have been fortunate they have been able to avoid teams that give them trouble (grizz, lakers)

Tue, Apr 17, 2012 Los Angeles Lakers vs. San Antonio Spurs: Spurs win 112-91
Fri, Apr 20, 2012 San Antonio Spurs vs. Los Angeles Lakers : Spurs win 121-97

Yeah, lots of trouble. :rolleyes:

They needed a historic rebounding performance from Andrew Bynum and an uncharacteristically off night from Duncan to lose to LA once this season.

[Wonder Bread Kid]

the spurs have been fortunate they have been able to avoid teams that give them trouble (grizz, lakers)

grizz beat them up, force turnovers, control the glass and tempo. its not so easy to make all those 3s when youre forced to grind it in a half court game

Oh geez, this nonsense again. Neither Memphis or LAL gave us trouble this season. We owned Memphis and clowned LA twice.

[TMT]

Have a low post threat. Seriously, that's their only weakness.

This. Lucky for us there are none remaining in the playoffs scoring wise. Best bigs left in the playoffs are Duncan, KG and then probably Ibaka.

[Pointguard]

The most important thing to do is not to get caught up in pursuing the passing ball. Stay at home and make them dribble around you. Play the passing lanes. The only one that can get around you for more than 30 minutes is Parker. Be aggressive on the pick and rolls and just do the switch. Miami is one of the few teams that has the versatility to do the switching its just that Miami hasn't seen a good offense in over a month. But Miami is quick enough to freak SA out. Pick two guys that you want to stop and that's it, don't get caught thinking that the whole team is a great scoring threat.

[amfirst]

Outscore them. Naw, post them up and stop running up and down. I know Thunders are good at it, but apparently the Spurs are better and more experienced at it.

[Droid101]

Tue, Apr 17, 2012 Los Angeles Lakers vs. San Antonio Spurs: Spurs win 112-91
Fri, Apr 20, 2012 San Antonio Spurs vs. Los Angeles Lakers : Spurs win 121-97

Yeah, lots of trouble. :rolleyes:

They needed a historic rebounding performance from Andrew Bynum and an uncharacteristically off night from Duncan to lose to LA once this season.
It's pretty easy to have a historic rebounding night against the Spurs' weak ass frontcourt.

[WeGetRing2012]

Wait until next year..

[icewill36]

Oh geez, this nonsense again. Neither Memphis or LAL gave us trouble this season. We owned Memphis and clowned LA twice.

randolph was out, and trying to regain his previous form

no kobe. plus this is the playoffs were talking here. spurs would get wrecked on the glass

[Wonder Bread Kid]

randolph was out, and trying to regain his previous form

no kobe. plus this is the playoffs were talking here. spurs would get wrecked on the glass

Give me a break. Zbo was there in the first meeting the Spurs won. And he was there in the fourth game. Ginobili didn't play some of the games and the Spurs still won.


As for the Lakers, Spurs blew them out with Kobe. As for the boards, the Lakers had Bynum and Gasol in those two games and aside from the first meeting where Spurs played liked complete ass and Blair cemented his seat on the bench, the Spurs out rebounded LAL.

The lakers had trouble with Denver and got taken to game 7. Gtfo of here with the sh!t hype of the Lakers.

Memphis lost to the Clips. Spurs swept the Clippers.

LAL lost to OKC. Spurs up 2-0 on OKC.

Spurs would have swept Mem and LAL.

[Artillery]

the spurs have been fortunate they have been able to avoid teams that give them trouble (grizz, lakers)

grizz beat them up, force turnovers, control the glass and tempo. its not so easy to make all those 3s when youre forced to grind it in a half court game

Grizz were lucky to play a banged up Spurs featuring a one-armed Ginobili and a Tim Duncan dealing with ankle problems. They swept the Grizz this year in the regular season.

[AMISTILLILL]

It's pretty easy to have a historic rebounding night against the Spurs' weak ass frontcourt.

...and yet Bynum only scored a COMBINED 9 in the following 2 games vs. San Antonio. Keep talking. :oldlol:

[Artillery]

no kobe. plus this is the playoffs were talking here. spurs would get wrecked on the glass

Spurs blew out the Lakers twice, with Kobe and without Kobe. Worst loss in Staples Center in the past five years in fact.

[Snoop_Cat]

If you're Miami, go with a PF/C line up of James and Bosh if he's back by then.

LeBron can guard Diaw and whichever of the two is on LeBron will likely get smoked by his agility. Bosh-Duncan is a good match up but Bosh's ability to spot up will take Duncan out of the paint some to create space for LeBron and Wade.

With a Splitter-Duncan front court... well, they never give Splitter the ball anyways, I'd say match up according to position and give James help if/when Duncan backs him down.

[Artillery]

It's pretty easy to have a historic rebounding night against the Spurs' weak ass frontcourt.

Friday, Apr 20
Spurs 121-97 Lakers

Bynum: 2 rebs

lol Lakers frontcourt

[OldSchoolBBall]

LMAO @ Laker fans acting like their sorry ass team would have stood a chance against these Spurs, who are playing at an historic level. :oldlol: Their team is gone and now they have to resort to what-ifs. Sad.

[icewill36]

Spurs blew out the Lakers twice, with Kobe and without Kobe. Worst loss in Staples Center in the past five years in fact.

and miami blew out SA without wade... i guess we should just hand them the title now

[Artillery]

and miami blew out SA without wade... i guess we should just hand them the title now

SA didn't have Ginobili, Diaw, or SJax that game. Cancerous Richard Jefferson was also playing. Keep trying though. Your insistence that a trashy Lakers or Memphis team would have stood a chance is funny as hell.

[icewill36]

SA didn't have Ginobili, Diaw, or SJax that game. Cancerous Richard Jefferson was also playing

wade >>>>> ginobili

fat man diaw would be a non factor, jax rides the bench, cant even start over a rookie

[Artillery]

wade >>>>> ginobili

fat man diaw would be a non factor, jax rides the bench, cant even start over a rookie

Away game. Spurs have homecourt throughout. Keep trying.

[icewill36]

Away game. Spurs have homecourt throughout. Keep trying.

home/road means nothing to elite teams

[drizzy0503]

Kung fu kicks and chop socky flips

[28renyoy]

Play small with a physical post defender that can front Duncan and block Parker/Ginobili's drives. You also need great perimiter defenders and great individual scorers because the Spurs will break down your defense & offense. Basically the Thunder can beat them, but they need to play

Westbrook
Sefalosha
Harden
Durant
Ibaka

[Artillery]

home/road means nothing to elite teams

We see that the team with home-court advantage in The Finals has a distinct advantage. In the 27 years since the league switched to the 2-3-2 format, only seven teams have won the championship when beginning The Finals on the road.

[tpols]

Play small with a physical post defender that can front Duncan and block Parker/Ginobili's drives. You also need great perimiter defenders and great individual scorers because the Spurs will break down your defense & offense. Basically the Thunder can beat them, but they need to play

Westbrook
Sefalosha
Harden
Durant
Ibaka
You think Miami would kill them then?

[28renyoy]

You think Miami would kill them then?

No, Miami is absolutely terrible at defending the 3 point shot

The Spurs will probably make 12+ 3's every game that series

[Kingwillball]

No, Miami is absolutely terrible at defending the 3 point shot

The Spurs will probably make 12+ 3's every game that series


Not in Playoffs Fool.

[Lebron23]

Not in Playoffs Fool.


Joyner needs to watch some games. Thunder are just like the Chicago Bulls. They will always got their @$$ kick by an experience playoffs opponent.

[Tenchi Ryu]

This thread is exactly why teams keep getting their asses kicked. When you have a good coach, there is something you do when things aren't working well. Its called ADJUSTING. Thunder were beating Spurs PnR game, so what did Pop do? Adjusted and made Manu have more freedom with the ball. Him and Parker basically went into guard play mode.

You can't say "well we can do this and its gonna stop them" cause all Pop has to do is think of a new strategy. You think Spo or Brooks can do that? Please.

[OmniStrife]

Get Dragic.

[Kiddlovesnets]

wait for both Duncan and Ginobili to finally run out of gas and return in a year or two, time is the only thing that can beat this Spurs.

[28renyoy]

Joyner needs to watch some games. Thunder are just like the Chicago Bulls. They will always got their @$$ kick by an experience playoffs opponent.

Because they didn't just beat the last 3 NBA champions this post season...and wtf are you talking about? Want to talk about LeBron's record vs "experienced playoff opponents"

[Lebron23]

Because they didn't just beat the last 3 NBA champions this post season...and wtf are you talking about? Want to talk about LeBron's record vs "experienced playoff opponents"


They are currently beating the Celtics right now. LBJ and his teams defeated the Pistons in 07, and the Celtics last year.

[Haymaker]

the spurs have been fortunate they have been able to avoid teams that give them trouble (grizz, lakers)

grizz beat them up, force turnovers, control the glass and tempo. its not so easy to make all those 3s when youre forced to grind it in a half court game

I'll have to agree with this statement.

[fos]

Sweep the leg, Johnny. :confusedshrug:

[Haymaker]

This thread is exactly why teams keep getting their asses kicked. When you have a good coach, there is something you do when things aren't working well. Its called ADJUSTING. Thunder were beating Spurs PnR game, so what did Pop do? Adjusted and made Manu have more freedom with the ball. Him and Parker basically went into guard play mode.

You can't say "well we can do this and its gonna stop them" cause all Pop has to do is think of a new strategy. You think Spo or Brooks can do that? Please. Also with this.

[arifgokcen]

The most important thing to do is not to get caught up in pursuing the passing ball. Stay at home and make them dribble around you. Play the passing lanes. The only one that can get around you for more than 30 minutes is Parker. Be aggressive on the pick and rolls and just do the switch. Miami is one of the few teams that has the versatility to do the switching its just that Miami hasn't seen a good offense in over a month. But Miami is quick enough to freak SA out. Pick two guys that you want to stop and that's it, don't get caught thinking that the whole team is a great scoring threat.
Miami has the perfectf perimeter defense to do that.Basically everyone can change on pick and rolls .However spurs offense is a thing of beauty.Last night would be a blowout loss for any other team against thunder.Assuming both of those teams go to finals,i expect very long series

[INDI]

Lets say your on the coaching staff of either OKC/MIA/BOS...what the **** is going through your head??

Have you guys seen any flaws so far in this Spurs team that could cost them a series??

Best bet is to hope they go cold from the field :lol

Put durant/lebron on Parker and do not give them help, stay home on everyone else. In cases of pick and role play, switch everything. The spurs thrive off of penetration because naturally it will cause their opponents to shift, then all they do is move the ball quickly to who's open

[amfirst]

Put durant/lebron on Parker and do not give them help, stay home on everyone else. In cases of pick and role play, switch everything. The spurs thrive off of penetration because naturally it will cause their opponents to shift, then all they do is move the ball quickly to who's open

I can see LeBron and Durant getting stuck between screens. Parker isn't Kobe who plays one on one, which longer players would defend better.

[swi7ch]

Beating the Spurs is easy---get your 12th man to take out Manu or Parker and win the series.

Easy.

[chips93]

if miami goes small, with

chalmers
wade
battier
lebron
bosh/haslem

they can switch a ton, with all 4 perimeter guys able to do a decent job of staying with parker and ginobili, and then hope timmy isnt able to beat you up inside.


This. Lucky for us there are none remaining in the playoffs scoring wise. Best bigs left in the playoffs are Duncan, KG and then probably Ibaka.

bosh's trainer said that he should be back for the finals, if so, hes better than ibaka, and maybe better than duncan, but id give duncan the edge.

[IGOTGAME]

LMAO @ Laker fans acting like their sorry ass team would have stood a chance against these Spurs, who are playing at an historic level. :oldlol: Their team is gone and now they have to resort to what-ifs. Sad.

nothing sad about it...just the truth. Lakers weren't winning the title but they could beat this SAS team. They just don't match up with the Lakers at all. they have the type of defenders that Kobe eats up and they have the bigs.

[TheMan]

nothing sad about it...just the truth. Lakers weren't winning the title but they could beat this SAS team. They just don't match up with the Lakers at all. they have the type of defenders that Kobe eats up and they have the bigs.
:roll:

[chips93]

nothing sad about it...just the truth. Lakers weren't winning the title but they could beat this SAS team. They just don't match up with the Lakers at all. they have the type of defenders that Kobe eats up and they have the bigs.

this is true, but parker would kill the lakers. sessions is garbage defensively, and bynum would get abused in the pick and roll.

[OldSchoolBBall]

nothing sad about it...just the truth. Lakers weren't winning the title but they could beat this SAS team. They just don't match up with the Lakers at all. they have the type of defenders that Kobe eats up and they have the bigs.

So ****ing delusional it's sad... :oldlol:

[chazzy]

Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
Their team is gone and now they have to resort to what-ifs. Sad.
Funny thing is, this describes current MJ stans perfectly

[nashwade]

If they make it to the Finals, Pittman is available to do some sh!t ala Pop style

it's payback time mfckers

[Lebron23]

If they make it to the Finals, Pittman is available to do some sh!t ala Pop style

it's payback time mfckers


The Destroyer

[TMT]

bosh's trainer said that he should be back for the finals, if so, hes better than ibaka, and maybe better than duncan, but id give duncan the edge.

Not better than Duncan by any means. Ibaka is on another level defensively and athletically but I'll give Bosh the edge otherwise. Probably around the same level as KG, imo.

[inclinerator]

everytime they go on a hot streak hack someone

[Pointguard]

Miami has the perfectf perimeter defense to do that.Basically everyone can change on pick and rolls .However spurs offense is a thing of beauty.Last night would be a blowout loss for any other team against thunder.Assuming both of those teams go to finals,i expect very long series
True.
With Pop its usually a chess match. Miami is the only team that starts the game with two Queen type pieces. I thought Westbrook and Durant were also like this but they aren't playing their own game. You can't beat SA without playing with a true sense of purpose. They can get you playing their game if you aren't careful. It isn't likely that you can out execute SA but if you got horses run, if you got more athletes, make it an Olmpics, if you got more skill, take them to trade school. The worst thing you can do is settle down and think you can beat SA. Once you settle down, they will beat you. You have to move your wild cards and you have to keep accenting your strengths. You have to play them with an edge or you will lose.

This was the case with Bird's Celtics. They simply out excuted other teams. The whole team could pass, shoot and make the right play. Trying to out execute them was folly. Even the Lakers with a great inside out game, Kareem/Worthy down low, Cooper and Scott shooting great, and Magic a great facilitator could not settle down and beat the Celtics at execution. What was Magic's trump card? Get on the horse and stay on the horse. The Celtic's couldn't catch the bird once it left the ground.

Watch this analysis/analogy end up on your TV.

[AMISTILLILL]

nothing sad about it...just the truth. Lakers weren't winning the title but they could beat this SAS team. They just don't match up with the Lakers at all. they have the type of defenders that Kobe eats up and they have the bigs.

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff322/yinwest/GP.gif

[Pointguard]

True.
With Pop its usually a chess match. Miami is the only team that starts the game with two Queen type pieces. I thought Westbrook and Durant were also like this but they aren't playing their own game. You can't beat SA without playing with a true sense of purpose. They can get you playing their game if you aren't careful. It isn't likely that you can out execute SA but if you got horses run, if you got more athletes, make it an Olmpics, if you got more skill, take them to trade school. The worst thing you can do is settle down and think you can beat SA. Once you settle down, they will beat you. You have to move your wild cards and you have to keep accenting your strengths. You have to play them with an edge or you will lose.

This was the case with Bird's Celtics. They simply out excuted other teams. The whole team could pass, shoot and make the right play. Trying to out execute them was folly. Even the Lakers with a great inside out game, Kareem/Worthy down low, Cooper and Scott shooting great, and Magic a great facilitator could not settle down and beat the Celtics at execution. What was Magic's trump card? Get on the horse and stay on the horse. The Celtic's couldn't catch the bird once it left the ground.

Watch this analysis/analogy end up on your TV.
Pretty Much.

[T-Time3]

by having harden,fisher,durant,ibaka and westbrook altogether on your team