Wait a minute. Prometheus is an Alien reboot???

[Clippersfan86]

I knew it was Ridley Scott but I just read in an article that it's a reboot. I knew it looked similar and great but damn I was clueless :facepalm .

Some early opinions of the film from people that have seen it. Don't see any spoilers.

http://io9.com/5914281/is-prometheus-actually-any-good-early-reviews-are-in/

[Clippersfan86]

It's supposedly awesome.

[DonDadda59]

Read a lengthy interview with him in the Hollywood Reporter recently and he says it's not a reebot or even a prequel per say. It's set in the same reality but it's meant to be a stand alone film, that may have sequels. He's also in the process of putting together a Blade Runner sequel.


It's supposedly awesome.

Not at all surprising considering who's involved and just based on the trailers/ads.

[Clippersfan86]

Read a lengthy interview with him in the Hollywood Reporter recently and he says it's not a reebot or even a prequel per say. It's set in the same reality but it's meant to be a stand alone film, that may have sequels. He's also in the process of putting together a Blade Runner sequel.



Not at all surprising considering who's involved and just based on the trailers/ads.

Oh thank you for the clarification :cheers: . One of the reviews said it was a loose reboot.

[andgar923]

Damon Lindelof talks about this: http://www.theverge.com/on-the-verge

[Clippersfan86]

Damon Lindelof talks about this: http://www.theverge.com/on-the-verge

Thanks man :cheers: .

[jbot]

. He's also in the process of putting together a Blade Runner sequel.



.
:rockon: blade runner was way ahead of its time.

[InspiredLebowski]

:rockon: blade runner was way ahead of its time.jbot! 2nd round mother****er! baby steps.

[flipogb]

well if it happened before those events then id say its very close to being a prequel

[G-Funk]

I knew it was Ridley Scott but I just read in an article that it's a reboot. I knew it looked similar and great but damn I was clueless :facepalm .

Some early opinions of the film from people that have seen it. Don't see any spoilers.

http://io9.com/5914281/is-prometheus-actually-any-good-early-reviews-are-in/

Thats what I heard

[Velocirap31]

Cooooool. I'll be seeing it on June 8.

[-p.tiddy-]

it's getting great reviews...I am looking forward to this

apparently it is quite the visual spectacal and must be seen in 3D

and it looks like it is a very mental flick that may take more than one viewing for everything to sink in...

[kentatm]

Read a lengthy interview with him in the Hollywood Reporter recently and he says it's not a reebot or even a prequel per say. It's set in the same reality but it's meant to be a stand alone film, that may have sequels.



that sounds like an even more bullshit version of when Hollywood people try and call a film a "re-imagining" instead of a remake or reboot.

[cteach111]

it's getting great reviews...I am looking forward to this

apparently it is quite the visual spectacal and must be seen in 3D

and it looks like it is a very mental flick that may take more than one viewing for everything to sink in...

reviews say its a great flick taking full advantage of today's CGI, but lacks the overall quality of his prior work with Alien.

Kinda sounds like Avatar.

[Myth]

My understanding is that it is more prequel-ish than reboot. It is supposed to take place in the same time line and universe, but is just decades earlier and doesn't have the xenomorphs we are used to (but likely in some form).

[-p.tiddy-]

reviews say its a great flick taking full advantage of today's CGI, but lacks the overall quality of his prior work with Alien.

Kinda sounds like Avatar.
there aren't CG actors...it won't remind anyone of Avatar I don't think

[MontaHardaway]

this whole prometheus project has sounded like a bunch of bullsh*it to me from the start.

why are they trying to hide/deny the fact that this has been an Alien prequel?

this just looks like a remake of the original Alien with bad CG. even with a token black guy.

like its supposed to be some Usual Suspects/Sixth Sense type of surprise when this guy pops out in the last scenehttp://www.hollywoodheroes.com/images/alien_from_movie.png:facepalm :facepalm

[GOBB]

1. I hate the fact I watched the previews and have an idea what the movie is about. Earthlings are checking out this planet and discover and decode that aliens are not only there but they are planning to attack Earth. Now they try to stop it

2. I hate that screeaching sound whenever the preview comes on. Am I alone? I cant even type out that sound but got damn it makes me want to spazz, foam at mouth as I throw myself to the floor and shake uncontrollably. I hate that sound THAT much. :mad:

[-p.tiddy-]

http://www.ghostofaflea.com/archives/Space_Jockey_Alien.jpg


^^^ from the origianl Alien

http://halcyonrealms.com/blogpics/promet201.jpg


^^^ Prometheus


http://v2.suedostschweiz.ch/var/upload/news/image/78911_630x420.jpg


^^^Art mind behind both movies, HR Giger

[Myth]

I wish the space jockeys were as big as the original. I think they scaled them down a lot.

[jbot]

they said it was an Alien prequel. i'm not a fan of prequels (or the actual Alien sequels).

[-p.tiddy-]

from what I have read there are a lot of tid bits that link the movies but that only Alien fans will recognize them and you don't have to be familiar with the Alien flicks at all to see Prometheus...

this isn't really an Aliens movie...it just takes place in the same universe, that's all

[DonDadda59]

from what I have read there are a lot of tid bits that link the movies but that only Alien fans will recognize them and you don't have to be familiar with the Alien flicks at all to see Prometheus...

this isn't really an Aliens movie...it just takes place in the same universe, that's all

Yup, this is what Scott himself has said all along. Same universe/reality but not really a prequel, meant to be a stand alone film.

And the Alien franchise launched the careers of some of the best directors out there. Scott for the original, James Cameron for Aliens (Scott is still pissed off about him being replaced :oldlol: ), and David Fincher helming Alien 3. Those are some big guns right there.

[kentatm]

how is it not a prequel when the big ass ship exploding in the previews looks to clearly be the ship wreck they find in Alien?

you guys are really swallowing the "Its not a prequel" bs pretty damn hard.

[Myth]

Yup, this is what Scott himself has said all along. Same universe/reality but not really a prequel, meant to be a stand alone film.

And the Alien franchise launched the careers of some of the best directors out there. Scott for the original, James Cameron for Aliens (Scott is still pissed off about him being replaced :oldlol: ), and David Fincher helming Alien 3. Those are some big guns right there.

Not to mention that part 4 was written by Joss Whedon.


how is it not a prequel when the big ass ship exploding in the previews looks to clearly be the ship wreck they find in Alien?

you guys are really swallowing the "Its not a prequel" bs pretty damn hard.

I believe Scott said he doesn't view it as a prequel because it doesn't lead directly into the events of Alien. Essentially, it is the idea of George Lucas making Star Wars Episode 1 without any of the same character and then not making episodes 2 and 3. It would be the same universe and several things that feel familiar, but the characters of this movie have nothing to do with the characters in the original.

[kentatm]

Not to mention that part 4 was written by Joss Whedon.



I believe Scott said he doesn't view it as a prequel because it doesn't lead directly into the events of Alien. Essentially, it is the idea of George Lucas making Star Wars Episode 1 without any of the same character and then not making episodes 2 and 3. It would be the same universe and several things that feel familiar, but the characters of this movie have nothing to do with the characters in the original.


:oldlol:

yea, his head is straight up his own pretentious ass with that logic.

everything I have seen in previews indicates they are on the planet Sigourney Weaver and company land on in Alien and that their ship is the one that has the Alien pods discovered by John Hurt.

[-p.tiddy-]

:oldlol:

yea, his head is straight up his own pretentious ass with that logic.

everything I have seen in previews indicates they are on the planet Sigourney Weaver and company land on in Alien and that their ship is the one that has the Alien pods discovered by John Hurt.
if that is true then it is certainly a "prequel" by definition...


It's still not an Aliens movie though in that there won't be any facehuggers or the typical "xenomorphs" with acid for blood and tails whipping...it's a different type of movie from what I understand.

[kentatm]

if that is true then it is certainly a "prequel" by definition...


It's still not an Aliens movie though in that there won't be any facehuggers or the typical "xenomorphs" with acid for blood and tails whipping...it's a different type of movie from what I understand.

here is the ship from Alien

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080124232003/avp/images/e/e2/DerelictCraft.jpg


here is the ship you see in Prometheus trailers and media kits

http://www.empireonline.com/images/uploaded/prometheus37.jpg

[Smoke117]

What an idiot, just figuring that out now. Cripple.

[rezznor]

it's a prequel that won't feature the xenomorphs. it's gonna focus on the space jockey. i'll bet they they will be revealed as the ones who engineered the xenomorphs.

[MontaHardaway]

i kinda thinking its gonna be more like the Phantom Menace of the Alien franchise

[-p.tiddy-]

going to see this tonight

will post my review later



reviews look good but a little mixed, it is clear that it is visually amazing but that there are some plot holes and story issues...

so that's what I am expecting, a visually amazing 3D movie that could disappoint on the story side...

[RoseCity07]

Saw it, I thought it was great. My brother thought it was boring and his friends thought it was terrible. They were drunk and tired though.

I was wide awake from start to finish. I wasn't bored at all.

[Clippersfan86]

Any other opinions on this movie? Still debating on when to go.

[-p.tiddy-]

Saw it, I thought it was great. My brother thought it was boring and his friends thought it was terrible. They were drunk and tired though.

I was wide awake from start to finish. I wasn't bored at all.
did you see it in 3D and if so did that make a huge difference?

I am reading that 3D is a must for this movie...

[Droid101]

I am reading that 3D is a must for this movie...
3D is a must for NO movies.

[RoseCity07]

did you see it in 3D and if so did that make a huge difference?

I am reading that 3D is a must for this movie...

I saw it in on the regular screen and I remember wishing that I had paid extra to see it Imax because that screen is so much better. I don't know if 3d would make this movie better, but it was pretty damn good looking on a regular screen.

[Velocirap31]

Looking forward to seeing this. Sounds like the extra drive to the IMAX is worth it. Will do.

[Knicks101]

3D is a must for NO movies.

:rolleyes: You obviously haven't seen Spy Kids 3-D.

[ukplayer4]

pointless attempt to tack it onto the alien franchise, i had my reservations when scott strangely decided that he would make an "alien film" and then a " blade runner" sequel. seems like hes well aware that, artistically atleast, he is trading off the the two great films hes ever made- thirty years ago. cant wait any longer to cash in on them. the guy makes soleless, empty studio films that are executed competently enough to hold up against the other hollywood garbage but is only considered a great film maker because of two films he made three decades ago. he literally hacks and churns his way through stuff these days and it shows.....

that said. i saw it a while ago and really liked prometheus. its dumb as anything, makes little sense and, unlike many people, i have no issues with that at all as it very well executed. great set pieces and fassbender(as always) is awesome. whilst trashy, its a real sci-fi film of which there are so few these days....
8/10

[MeLO MvP 15]

Haven't seen it but I really want to. I had to convince my friends to see Rise of the Planet of the Apes and man I was right on that one, hopefully same with this lol

[MontaHardaway]

like its supposed to be some Usual Suspects/Sixth Sense type of surprise when this guy pops out in the last scenehttp://www.hollywoodheroes.com/images/alien_from_movie.png:facepalm :facepalm

:biggums:

damn. i didn't think i'd be right on the money

[-p.tiddy-]

I really enjoyed it...great movie IMO

and I think I have every questioned answered...alot of the reviews claim that it leaves many unanswered questions, and I had some walking out, but I now think I understand everything.

Great tie in to the original Alien IMO...very nice change of pace.

9/10...want to see again

[LBJMVP]

this whole prometheus project has sounded like a bunch of bullsh*it to me from the start.

why are they trying to hide/deny the fact that this has been an Alien prequel?

this just looks like a remake of the original Alien with bad CG. even with a token black guy.

like its supposed to be some Usual Suspects/Sixth Sense type of surprise when this guy pops out in the last scenehttp://www.hollywoodheroes.com/images/alien_from_movie.png:facepalm :facepalm


only thing i think about when seeing that alien

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWfiIks3vQw

[sunsfan1357]

I thought it was pretty 'meh.' Maybe because I haven't seen the other Alien(s) flicks, but I was just kind of sitting there waiting for something to happen to completely draw me in and it didn't happen. Charlize Theron's (sp?) character seemed pretty pointless as well.

[-p.tiddy-]

I thought it was pretty 'meh.' Maybe because I haven't seen the other Alien(s) flicks, but I was just kind of sitting there waiting for something to happen to completely draw me in and it didn't happen. Charlize Theron's (sp?) character seemed pretty pointless as well.
This answers a lot of questions about the Aliens movies...I suspect that Alien fans will generally like this movie much more than others.

I love the way they are explained.


Also, just me knowing that the original Engineer in Alien was just some HR Giger art it really really cool to me how they were able to design this movie around that one scene.

[JustinJDW]

Saw it today. Thought it was really great. Last thirty minutes were great. Charlize Theron is fine. Tremendous acting as well. Pacing felt perfect. Don't get how people can dislike it. I only have one real question, which I will put in white down below.

Why on earth did Fasbender's robot character kill Charlie? He put that shit in his drink for seemingly no reason. He had to know it was going to kill him, or at least **** him up big time. It seemed so random? What was the motivation behind that? He killed him, and then it was never addressed ever again. No one ever knew and that was the end of it. Almost like it didn't happen. I thought the robot was actually a good guy. Its a robot. But of course, it has to have some secret agenda and I guess it has the ability to manipulate. But why? I know that he was secretly was taking care of old Guy Pearce, but what was in the hell was the bloody point of killing Charlie? And then helping the chick get off the planet in the end? Oh well, the answer is probably glaringly obvious, I just don't see it.

[sunsfan1357]

Saw it today. Thought it was really great. Last thirty minutes were great. Charlize Theron is fine. Tremendous acting as well. Pacing felt perfect. Don't get how people can dislike it. I only have one real question, which I will put in white down below.


Question addressed in white:

I think it revolved around the fact that Guy Pearce's character said that David was unable to have any feelings. Charlie kept giving David a hard time about being a robot and not feeling anything, but David really was starting to have some emotion about it. He decided to teach Charlie a lesson and get rid of him. There's also a small part of me that think he was jealous of being with the chick, he seemed to have some sort of heightened interest in her since he always watched her dreams when they were sleeping.

[MontaHardaway]

Spoilers in white:

I think his motives made no sense whatsoever due to bad scripting. You two trying to rationalize his actions is a fool's errand.

[GOBB]

Havent come across a single person I know that liked this movie. So I'm reading all spoilers in white.

[raiderfan19]

Answer to Justin's question in white

Guy pearce's character told him to. He wasn't specifically trying to kill him, but he was trying to figure out what the liquid in the vials did. Remember pearce only had a little time left and was hoping that the engineers had the ability to miraculously heal him. They thought the engineers were dead but they had a ton of vials of goop and David couldn't figure out exactly what it was/did so Pearce told him to find out with any means necesarry(the scene where he tells Charlize that "he said try harder") it wasn't straight up evil, it was human scientific research

[raiderfan19]

pointless attempt to tack it onto the alien franchise, i had my reservations when scott strangely decided that he would make an "alien film" and then a " blade runner" sequel. seems like hes well aware that, artistically atleast, he is trading off the the two great films hes ever made- thirty years ago. cant wait any longer to cash in on them. the guy makes soleless, empty studio films that are executed competently enough to hold up against the other hollywood garbage but is only considered a great film maker because of two films he made three decades ago. he literally hacks and churns his way through stuff these days and it shows.....

that said. i saw it a while ago and really liked prometheus. its dumb as anything, makes little sense and, unlike many people, i have no issues with that at all as it very well executed. great set pieces and fassbender(as always) is awesome. whilst trashy, its a real sci-fi film of which there are so few these days....
8/10
Gladiator??????

[Stuckey]

op is annoying and posts too much

[-p.tiddy-]

SPOILER:

(my answer to Justin's question, the correct one ;)

http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Science/images-2/Ash-Alien.jpg

^^^ remember Ash from Alien?...what was his hidden agenda?...he wanted the facehugger to impregnate the Hurt's character so that he could study the new life form they found.

http://danielmclaren.com/sites/danielmclaren.com/files/imagecache/large/images/2009/alien_chestburster.jpg


^^^ Ash knew that was coming while no one else did.

In Prometheus it is no different, David doesn't care who lives or dies, he just wants to study...


http://www.themarysue.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/FassbenderPrometheus.jpg

he is fascinated with the Engineers from the start of the movie till the end...he is on his own personal mission for answers.

http://houseofpaper.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/20120609-200617.jpg

^^^ perhaps he knew there was a chance this would happen. If you remember, he wanted her to give birth to that thing...she had to escape to have it removed (and that scene was fcking awesome, tense as HELL)

[-p.tiddy-]

it took me a little time to realize what happened in the opening scene, but that was a "good engineer" saving Earth as he infects the water supply on that planet resulting in all of them dieing (except the one Engineer they found)

http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss37/thegentrificator/engineer.jpg




the only one question I have that is kind of meaningless is that we are supposed to assume that the "vases" transform into facehugger pods in Alien

http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/pod183promeedited.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7y6JN9sPaKI/Ta76GJFZNDI/AAAAAAAAAOI/tUJgvbIhZVs/s1600/alien_egg.jpg

right?...it is the same ship, and those eggs are near the Engineer in Alien

so if that is the case, Scott must have dismissed the fact that a queen Alien produces those eggs in the sequel...he must have dismissed all the sequels made...the only movies he cares about in this franchise are his own.

[ROCSteady]

Saw Prometheus primo Thursday at Midnight. I really enjoyed the technical aspects, they were pristine. The acting was good and it was cool to see what the Space Jockeys really are.

However, the trailers and TV spots gave away too much and took away a lot of the mystery that I was hoping would unfold further. Some questions were answered while other crucial ones weren't and new ones rose to the surface. I guess that's fair given the ambiguous nature of life/creators/space, aliens, etc. I don't have too much of a problem but I was hoping the answers would be a little more detailed and recorded. I think they will prolly make a sequel so that's why I'm not bothered though.

Excellent film that expands Scott's original vision. See it in 3-D ( I never suggest this but it's totally worth it). 8.8/10

[shadow]

Havent come across a single person I know that liked this movie. So I'm reading all spoilers in white.


It was OK. The movie tried to be too smart and failed imo. Also it was too light on the action. The sequences that were there were not exciting or particularly well done. The whole movie picks up in the final act when it gets more fast paced but it's definitely not worth the cost of a theater ticket.

[DonDadda59]

Missed the first 15-20 minutes because moviefone had the wrong showing times :mad:

So if anyone can fill me in on what happened at the opening of the movie, please do in white.

Anyway, solid movie all around, I'd give it a 7.5 rating.

Spoilers in White:


I always thought the Space Jockeys (or Engineers now I guess) would have been a more peaceful people seeing as how they were such an advanced species, but they turned out to be *****. Maybe it was just the one dude, makes sense since he was in stasis for 2,000+ years, I'd be cranky as shit too :oldlol:

Like tiddy said, I think David infected Charlie with the xenomorph DNA purely for the pursuit of knowledge/science, there was no animosity involved. He was acting on orders to discover what the Engineers were capable of and that came with some casualties unfortunately. I think he even had a line where he asked Charlie how much he was willing to sacrifice in order to find the answers he was looking for.

Didn't care for the ending with Rapace's character deciding to go to the Space Jockeys' home planet. It's an obvious setup for a sequel(s), but after having dealt with just one belligerent one, why would she willingly go to a planet filled with beings who were planning on destroying mankind? All she's armed with is the head of an android

[DonDadda59]

Opening scene is Earth a bazillion years ago. An engineer ship is leaving orbit and a single engineer is on the ground near a waterfall and river. He opens a container and eats some kind of dark liquid (not the weaponized stuff). His body falls apart and you see in his cells, his DNA is breaking up. He falls into the water, where you see his DNA start to reform, seeding human life on Earth.

Next we see, the lady archaeologist (Shaw, I think) she is digging into a cave wall and finds a cave painting. The same cave painting found all over the world, the one with the star map.

Next, they are on the Promethius headed towards that star, taking place about 4 years later.

Muchos Gracias :D

[Myth]

:biggums:

damn. i didn't think i'd be right on the money

But you were wrong (spoiler in white): It was the queen, not that guy :D

[Myth]

Question addressed in white:



That was my assumption as well, especially when you consider (white text) That the future android in Aliens seem capable of caring. It is almost like Fassbender's android was taking a step forward towards being more human.

[Myth]

the only one question I have that is kind of meaningless is that we are supposed to assume that the "vases" transform into facehugger pods in Alien


right?...it is the same ship, and those eggs are near the Engineer in Alien

so if that is the case, Scott must have dismissed the fact that a queen Alien produces those eggs in the sequel...he must have dismissed all the sequels made...the only movies he cares about in this franchise are his own.

I was trying to figure that out. At the end (look for white text)the queen was born, and we don't see what happens between that moment and when Alien starts. So the queen could have simply replaced them. Or maybe the queen's DNA mixes with them? It doesn't make perfect sense, but I'm guessing it is something along the lines of one of those.

Did anybody else stay till after the credits. They had the Weyland symbol and a date: 10.11.12. Anybody know what is supposed to happen on that day? Maybe a teaser for part 2?

[Meticode]

I'll probably wait for it to be on the internet to watch it, but I am interested in seeing it. The only movie I want to pay to see this summer is TDKR. I'm a fan of Alien (except Resurrection) and the AVP movies I felt were stupid.

In any case this looked interesting and I was interested in seeing why the ship was there in the first place in the original Alien movie and where they or us came from.

[DonDadda59]

^It's possible that the star maps were just that- maps, not 'invitations' like the scientists concluded. Maybe the engineers who created life on Earth were rogues and didn't have the backing of the rulers of the species to conduct their experiments, which is why their base was hidden ships on a remote planet. Mad scientists doing unethical and illegal experiments and then when they were discovered they attempted to destroy the evidence (life on Earth).

But I'm sure the sequels will address all questions.

[Meticode]

:lol I probably screwed the movie for myself. I've read spoiler after spoiler in this thread. I was trying to determine if it was an actual reboot, a prequel or both. :lol

[upside24]

Seeing a lot of negative reviews here and other places but I still can't wait to see this.

I did the same thing Meticode.

[-p.tiddy-]

Opening scene is Earth a bazillion years ago. An engineer ship is leaving orbit and a single engineer is on the ground near a waterfall and river. He opens a container and eats some kind of dark liquid (not the weaponized stuff). His body falls apart and you see in his cells, his DNA is breaking up. He falls into the water, where you see his DNA start to reform, seeding human life on Earth.

Next we see, the lady archaeologist (Shaw, I think) she is digging into a cave wall and finds a cave painting. The same cave painting found all over the world, the one with the star map.

Next, they are on the Promethius headed towards that star, taking place about 4 years later.
okay this makes sense, but that isn't how I took it after the movie was over...You're supossed to be confused by that scene at first, but when the movie was over I thought that was planet LV426 and he was sabatoging the other Engineers before they could destry Earth.

I thought the black stuff he swallowed WAS the same black stuff in the vases, and that he dove in to the planet's water supply to infect the whole planet, resulting in all of the Engineer's deaths

but I think your way makes more sense...that was a double helix DNA stand and that would be the start of life on Earth.

It doesn't explain how humans would have known about LV426 though...

[-p.tiddy-]

I was trying to figure that out. At the end (look for white text)the queen was born, and we don't see what happens between that moment and when Alien starts. So the queen could have simply replaced them. Or maybe the queen's DNA mixes with them? It doesn't make perfect sense, but I'm guessing it is something along the lines of one of those.

Did anybody else stay till after the credits. They had the Weyland symbol and a date: 10.11.12. Anybody know what is supposed to happen on that day? Maybe a teaser for part 2?
If that last Alien was a queen then I guess that makes sense...that isn't how I took it though, but we had never seen a young queen before I don't think.

it looked very unique to the other xenomorphs...


the eggs being there at the start of Alien is strange, and there was even a layer of mist above the eggs that I thought set them off for teh facehuggers to attack.

It is like they are there in Alien awaiting humans to come...




I am thinking that Ridley Scott made this movie without any of the sequels in mind...to him the queen doesn't exist...it is just Prometheus and Alien...that is my guess, could be very wrong, but with the queen in mind some things don't add up well

[-p.tiddy-]

Seeing a lot of negative reviews here and other places but I still can't wait to see this.

I did the same thing Meticode.
if you are an Alien fan I think you will love it.

75% on RT...it is getting decent reviews, but not great.



I think those that are unfamiliar with Alien or not big fans might not like this as well...I'm an Alien fanboy so for me seeing the space jockeys and having them explained was really great stuff.

[-p.tiddy-]

From the star maps all over the world and google sky
I meant, it doesn't explain how the early humans that painted the maps knew about LV426.

if that Engineer at the start was the begining of life on Earth, then all humans would be clueless about it.

unless the Engineers came back to visit or soemthing...idk

[upside24]

if you are an Alien fan I think you will love it.

75% on RT...it is getting decent reviews, but not great.



I think those that are unfamiliar with Alien or not big fans might not like this as well...I'm an Alien fanboy so for me seeing the space jockeys and having them explained was really great stuff.
I've always loved the Alien films. The concept of being in an inhospitable place surrounded by hordes(sp?) of physically superior ruthless creatures with no help in sight is a terrifying prospect. Even if Prometheus doesn't fulfill the action expectations the others films did I like you would enjoy learning a new chapter of the story.

[RoseCity07]

I have a question for those who saw it already.

Possible spoilers****

Those two guys that said they were going back to the ship had all this navigation technology but yet the got lost. How did that happen?

Also, these guys were terrified when the ship captain told them they saw movement on their radar map of the tunnel thing they were in. They decided to go another direction. So why then were they all super friendly when that weird alien worm thing on the ground? That didn't make any sense.

I really liked the movie but the directors needed to do fix those inconsistencies.

[raiderfan19]

It's possible that the reason the engineers left the map is because humans were an experiment and they wanted to end it once humans reached a certain level of advancement. The engineers created the vases that would eventually turn into xenomorphs and put themselves into stasis and waited for humans to be advanced enough to read the maps and be able to get to that planet. Once the humans got there, the experiment was over and it was time to kill us all and start a new experiment. It could also be that once we reached that level they considered us a threat and then it was time to kill us all

[DonDadda59]

It's possible that the reason the engineers left the map is because humans were an experiment and they wanted to end it once humans reached a certain level of advancement. The engineers created the vases that would eventually turn into xenomorphs and put themselves into stasis and waited for humans to be advanced enough to read the maps and be able to get to that planet. Once the humans got there, the experiment was over and it was time to kill us all and start a new experiment. It could also be that once we reached that level they considered us a threat and then it was time to kill us all

But they were apparently already planning on going to Earth to eradicate all life on the planet 2,000 years before the events of the movie and the only reason they never made it was because they were all killed off except the one(s) who went into stasis.

[Myth]

If that last Alien was a queen then I guess that makes sense...that isn't how I took it though, but we had never seen a young queen before I don't think.

it looked very unique to the other xenomorphs...


the eggs being there at the start of Alien is strange, and there was even a layer of mist above the eggs that I thought set them off for teh facehuggers to attack.

It is like they are there in Alien awaiting humans to come...




I am thinking that Ridley Scott made this movie without any of the sequels in mind...to him the queen doesn't exist...it is just Prometheus and Alien...that is my guess, could be very wrong, but with the queen in mind some things don't add up well

[spoiler in white]I'm pretty sure that was the queen. The very last thing the alien does is have its mouth extend. That wasn't the inner mouth that the regular xenomorphs have, that was the extended mouth that the queen has in Aliens. I could be mistaken, but I think I saw a little egg sack too. Also, I believe Scott did not discount Aliens, just part 3, 4, and AVPs. I think he even consulted with James Cameron. I agree that not everything adds up though. For example, the a Space Jockey needs to be in the pilot seat between the events of Prometheus and Alien.

Compare these pics (leaving them as links as to not show spoiler):
http://www.lunerouge.org/images/figurines/AlienQueenMicroBust07.jpg
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR5ZCMsvJwVZSFTQRBNNiFE9o4frKivu eCeJassChzCRXFI5g4cO0L5gEVg


I have a question for those who saw it already.

Possible spoilers****

Those two guys that said they were going back to the ship had all this navigation technology but yet the got lost. How did that happen?

Also, these guys were terrified when the ship captain told them they saw movement on their radar map of the tunnel thing they were in. They decided to go another direction. So why then were they all super friendly when that weird alien worm thing on the ground? That didn't make any sense.

I really liked the movie but the directors needed to do fix those inconsistencies.

(white) I think they were terrified that the movement could have been one of the engineers. They didn't want to f*ck with an giant aliens. But the worm-aliens seemed less threatening. I would have been scared as f*ck too, but they were more concerned with large aliens. And even then, 1 of the guys was still afraid, it was only the guy with glasses that was thinking they would be ok to touch.

[Meticode]

if you are an Alien fan I think you will love it.

75% on RT...it is getting decent reviews, but not great.



I think those that are unfamiliar with Alien or not big fans might not like this as well...I'm an Alien fanboy so for me seeing the space jockeys and having them explained was really great stuff.
I am, but anything that starts at Alien Resurrection onward I hated. They should've never made Resurrection. A lot of people didn't like Alien 3, but I loved it.

[Myth]

I am, but anything that starts at Alien Resurrection onward I hated. They should've never made Resurrection. A lot of people didn't like Alien 3, but I loved it.

I acutally liked both, but preferred Alien Resurrection to part 3. I felt that Alien 3 brought nothing new to the table, while Alien Resurrection did.

[raiderfan19]

But they were apparently already planning on going to Earth to eradicate all life on the planet 2,000 years before the events of the movie and the only reason they never made it was because they were all killed off except the one(s) who went into stasis.
Maybe the original engineer had more in common with Prometheus then we thought. Prometheus stole fire from the gods to give it to humanity and was punished for it. Maybe the original engineer created us even though he wasn't supposed to and they were trying to undo his "mistake".

[DonDadda59]

Maybe the original engineer had more in common with Prometheus then we thought. Prometheus stole fire from the gods to give it to humanity and was punished for it. Maybe the original engineer created us even though he wasn't supposed to and they were trying to undo his "mistake".

Yeah, that's my basic theory. The original engineer and the ones on the planet were rogues of their society, maybe some sort of cult. Just seemed odd that they would operate in hidden ships away from their home planet. Seems like the actions of guys who were not looking to be found.

[DonDadda59]

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k293/Hans-Von/lphp.jpg

This :oldlol:

Made no goddamn sense. What the hell is her plan for dealing with an entire planet of belligerent 12' tall humanoids exactly? :confusedshrug:

[raiderfan19]

Yeah, that's my basic theory. The original engineer and the ones on the planet were rogues of their society, maybe some sort of cult. Just seemed odd that they would operate in hidden ships away from their home planet. Seems like the actions of guys who were not looking to be found.
Or we were always created as a vehicle to birth the xenomorphs much like the face huggers. In which case either they were just following through with the original plan or they realized they couldn't control the xenos so they decided to kill us to prevent them from replicating

[raiderfan19]

This :oldlol:

Made no goddamn sense. What the hell is her plan for dealing with an entire planet of belligerent 12' tall humanoids exactly? :confusedshrug:
Unleash the xenos or use the ships gun to destroy the planet

[DonDadda59]

Or we were always created as a vehicle to birth the xenomorphs much like the face huggers. In which case either they were just following through with the original plan or they realized they couldn't control the xenos so they decided to kill us to prevent them from replicating

Anything's possible. Whatever the reason for humankind's inception, a great question is why were the Jockeys creating biological weapons like the xenomorphs in the first place. Was it a splinter group/cult planning some sort of civil war with their own kind? Was it for the defense of their home world against other foreign species?

One reason I think the jockeys on the planet were part of a splinter group/cult (besides the obvious hiding on a remote planet thing) was the statue that's so prominently featured in the film:

http://blogs-images.forbes.com/daviddisalvo/files/2012/06/prometheus_main-237x300.jpg

Seems like a religious symbol, may even be the likeness of the original engineer from the beginning.

Also, we don't know who/what killed the jockeys. Didn't see any hollowed out chests on those corpses...


Unleash the xenos or use the ships gun to destroy the planet

I'd put money on her being ripped to shreds before that, especially since she's on a quest for knowledge, not destruction. And can that gun really take out an entire planet?

[Sarcastic]

Did the Engineer at the beginning know that he was seeding life on Earth by drinking the liquid and killing himself, or was that just a mistake on their part, and that's the reason why they want to go back to kill us all?

[raiderfan19]

Anything's possible. Whatever the reason for humankind's inception, a great question is why were the Jockeys creating biological weapons like the xenomorphs in the first place. Was it a splinter group/cult planning some sort of civil war with their own kind? Was it for the defense of their home world against other foreign species?

One reason I think the jockeys on the planet were part of a splinter group/cult (besides the obvious hiding on a remote planet thing) was the statue that's so prominently featured in the film:

http://blogs-images.forbes.com/daviddisalvo/files/2012/06/prometheus_main-237x300.jpg

Seems like a religious symbol, may even be the likeness of the original engineer from the beginning.

Also, we don't know who/what killed the jockeys. Didn't see any hollowed out chests on those corpses...



I'd put money on her being ripped to shreds before that, especially since she's on a quest for knowledge, not destruction. And can that gun really take out an entire planet?
I doubt the gun could do much to a planet but honestly she's not very damn smart so maybe she thought it could.

The other option, we know the xenos get smarter/can do more the longer they are alive(learning to use tech in aliens) what if there were some who were around long enough to learn to talk/plan. They could have threatened the engineers into making a vehicle for their gestation(us) rather than using the engineers themselves. We don't know for certain that the engineersade the xenos

[DonDadda59]

I doubt the gun could do much to a planet but honestly she's not very damn smart so maybe she thought it could.

The other option, we know the xenos get smarter/can do more the longer they are alive(learning to use tech in aliens) what if there were some who were around long enough to learn to talk/plan. They could have threatened the engineers into making a vehicle for their gestation(us) rather than using the engineers themselves. We don't know for certain that the engineersade the xenos

I think it's pretty clear they did. At the very least they somehow have their genetic code stashed away in canisters stacked high in cargo holds. Plus we know they have the ability to spawn/create life. I think it's a pretty clear they created humans, xenos, face-huggers, and most likely the zombifying worm/snake creatures.

[DonDadda59]

Interesting tidbit regarding all the religious undertones throughout the film, particularly Rapace's character and her cross...


It should also be noted by the crew of the Prometheus that the Engineers on LV-223 had been dead for around 2000 years. This has led fans to speculate that up until about 2000 years ago Engineers were on good terms of humans, but a specific event occurred which caused them to become hostile towards humanity. This explains the cave drawings 'inviting' humanity to track them [the Engineers] down. Some fans have suggested that Jesus Christ was an Engineer and his death at the hands of man was the point they turned against humanity. In an interview with Movies.com Ridley Scott acknowledges that this back story was considered but neither confirms nor denies that this was indeed used in the final script:

Movies.com: "We have heard that it was scripted that the Engineers were targeting our planet for destuction because we had crucified one of their representatives, and that Jesus Christ might have been an alien. Was this ever considered?"

Ridley Scott: "We definately did, and then we thought it was a little too on the nose. But if you look at it as an 'our children misbehaving down there' scenario, there are moments where it looks like we've gone out of control, running around in armor and skirts, which of course would be the Roman Empire. And they were given a long run. A thousand years before their disintegration actually started to happen. And you can say, 'Let's send one more of our emissaries to see if he can stop it'. Guess what? They crucified him."

http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Engineer


That would be a clever plot point to use IMO. 'Jesus' was another creation of the engineers who was implanted in a human woman ala what David did to Holloway (explains the virgin birth). It's also possible that his DNA was that of the original engineer, or whoever the engineers worship (the statue, this would explain the 'son of god' part). And his murder by the people he was sent to help and educate pissed off the engineers to the point they lost faith in their creations and they decided to bring about the apocalypse.

[rezznor]

This :oldlol:

Made no goddamn sense. What the hell is her plan for dealing with an entire planet of belligerent 12' tall humanoids exactly? :confusedshrug:
she has a ship full of weaponized goo. maybe she plans on getting some revenge

[raiderfan19]

If I was writing this at least one angle I would consider would be that the engineers are actually what humans evolve into in the future. They are from far enough in the future that we have developed time travel. We also have caused major damage/change to the rest of the universe through our meddling/warlike nature. The group of engineers on this planet are a group who feel that the universe would be better off without us ever getting to that point so they time travel back to kill us before we can become them.(they obviously don't have a problem with suicide for a greater purpose) and the reason they were on such a remote place was so that they couldn't be caught by other engineers. It would explain the human face statue, the remote location they were at, the fact that we have the same DNA and almost everything else(yes I realize this would mean we created ourselves which is a time paradox)

[RoseCity07]

Interesting tidbit regarding all the religious undertones throughout the film, particularly Rapace's character and her cross...


It should also be noted by the crew of the Prometheus that the Engineers on LV-223 had been dead for around 2000 years. This has led fans to speculate that up until about 2000 years ago Engineers were on good terms of humans, but a specific event occurred which caused them to become hostile towards humanity. This explains the cave drawings 'inviting' humanity to track them [the Engineers] down. Some fans have suggested that Jesus Christ was an Engineer and his death at the hands of man was the point they turned against humanity. In an interview with Movies.com Ridley Scott acknowledges that this back story was considered but neither confirms nor denies that this was indeed used in the final script:

Movies.com: "We have heard that it was scripted that the Engineers were targeting our planet for destuction because we had crucified one of their representatives, and that Jesus Christ might have been an alien. Was this ever considered?"

Ridley Scott: "We definately did, and then we thought it was a little too on the nose. But if you look at it as an 'our children misbehaving down there' scenario, there are moments where it looks like we've gone out of control, running around in armor and skirts, which of course would be the Roman Empire. And they were given a long run. A thousand years before their disintegration actually started to happen. And you can say, 'Let's send one more of our emissaries to see if he can stop it'. Guess what? They crucified him."

http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Engineer


That would be a clever plot point to use IMO. 'Jesus' was another creation of the engineers who was implanted in a human woman ala what David did to Holloway (explains the virgin birth). It's also possible that his DNA was that of the original engineer, or whoever the engineers worship (the statue, this would explain the 'son of god' part). And his murder by the people he was sent to help and educate pissed off the engineers to the point they lost faith in their creations and they decided to bring about the apocalypse.

This makes the movie infinitely more interesting. I hope they make another one that follows this movie up. Blade Runner grew on me and after seeing Prometheus I'm a fan of Ridley Scott.

[Myth]

This makes the movie infinitely more interesting. I hope they make another one that follows this movie up.

At the end of the credits, there was a Weyland logo and the date 10.11.12. I'm thinking that has something to do with the probably sequel. Maybe a teaser or website starts on that day.

Found this: http://www.whatis101112.com/

[Rameek]

this is what is confusing me...

Ripley goes to LV-426 but the Prometheus goes to LV-223 but everyone thinks its the same planet as Ripley's Alien and Aliens movie.

Am I missing something here?

[matt1016]

Me and the wifey saw it yesterday and we liked it. I thought it worked better as a horror/thriller with sci-fi elements than as a straight sci-fi movie. I think if you want awesome, well-thought out sci-fi stories, you pretty much have to read books.

I drew this cartoon in honor of the 2 dorks waiting in line with us. Here's their convo - dialogue by them, artwork by me.

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/460/prome1.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/694/prome1.jpg/)

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[MontaHardaway]

At the end of the credits, there was a Weyland logo and the date 10.11.12. I'm thinking that has something to do with the probably sequel. Maybe a teaser or website starts on that day.

Found this: http://www.whatis101112.com/
this piece of shi*t flopped.

hopefully they studios are smart enough not to fund the sequels.

i hope George Lucas, Steven Spielberg, James Cameron and Ridley Scott lock themselves in their homes and never bother anybody again.

i'm seriously done with these old greats fuc*king up their old work and attracting idiots to their new ugly cg abortions.

[sunsfan1357]

With all the talk linking this movie to the originals I've decided to go out and buy the first two in the series. Maybe I'll have more of an appreciation for this one, though I didn't think it was bad I'm just in the middle about it I guess.

[-p.tiddy-]

this is what is confusing me...

Ripley goes to LV-426 but the Prometheus goes to LV-223 but everyone thinks its the same planet as Ripley's Alien and Aliens movie.

Am I missing something here?
wtf

I never even noticed that


this doesn't make sense at all...

if they are different planets then I guess the ship found in Alien is just an entire different ship altogether...

[-p.tiddy-]

this piece of shi*t flopped.

hopefully they studios are smart enough not to fund the sequels.

i hope George Lucas, Steven Spielberg, James Cameron and Ridley Scott lock themselves in their homes and never bother anybody again.

i'm seriously done with these old greats fuc*king up their old work and attracting idiots to their new ugly cg abortions.
'Madagascar,' 'Prometheus' triumph at B.O. (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-06-10/entertainment/sns-201206101240reedbusivarietynvr1118055302-20120610_1_box-office-huntsman-madagascar)


The one-two punch from "Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted," which grossed an estimated $60.4 million, and "Prometheus," with $50 million, gave the summer's domestic box office a needed jolt, lifting totals at around 30% more than the same frame last year. Overseas B.O. also impressed with four pics earning more than $20 million -- led by "Madagascar," which easily won the world grossing nearly $136 million globally. In two weeks, "Prometheus" has cumed north of $140 million internationally.





I might be alone in this but I do NOT think that Ridely Scott intended for a sequel to Prometheus...I think the questions "why did the Engineers create us and why did they want to destroy us?" are meant to be left unanswered...

just my guess

I know they could have a sequel, but what are they going to do show us the girl going to the Engineer's home with a robot's head?...I doubt it we are ever going to witness that lol

[Myth]

MontaHardaway just sounds bitter. Even $50M domestically is good. Best opening for a rated R movie all year, and the best since 2009 (Watchmen had $55M). That is not flopping.

[-p.tiddy-]

I did just read that the entire reason Guy Pearce was choosen to play an old man in Prometheus is because Scott was planning to make this series and use him as a young man later on...

hmm...makes sense

I'm down for a series of this



This seems like it would be the type of series that has more of cult following rather than a large main stream following

[DonDadda59]

At the end of the credits, there was a Weyland logo and the date 10.11.12. I'm thinking that has something to do with the probably sequel. Maybe a teaser or website starts on that day.

Found this: http://www.whatis101112.com/

[I]"God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?"

[raiderfan19]

Wait so it's what I said I would have written?

[DonDadda59]

If I was writing this at least one angle I would consider would be that the engineers are actually what humans evolve into in the future. They are from far enough in the future that we have developed time travel. We also have caused major damage/change to the rest of the universe through our meddling/warlike nature. The group of engineers on this planet are a group who feel that the universe would be better off without us ever getting to that point so they time travel back to kill us before we can become them.(they obviously don't have a problem with suicide for a greater purpose) and the reason they were on such a remote place was so that they couldn't be caught by other engineers. It would explain the human face statue, the remote location they were at, the fact that we have the same DNA and almost everything else(yes I realize this would mean we created ourselves which is a time paradox)


Wait so it's what I said I would have written?

First time I noticed this post. Spot on :cheers:

*Assuming everything I postulated is in fact what they were getting at with the Nietzsche connection*

[ConanRulesNBC]

I just saw this today and I thought this wasn't an Alien reboot? The end clearly said otherwise.

Is it supposed to be two separate movies but in the same "movie universe"? That would be pretty cool if this was both the start of a new series and at the same time was able to reboot the Alien franchise.

[Rameek]

If anyone has a clue can attempt to answer this question.


this is what is confusing me...

Ripley goes to LV-426 but the Prometheus goes to LV-223 but everyone thinks its the same planet as Ripley's Alien and Aliens movie.

Am I missing something here?
I thought the movie would appeal to the die hard Alien/Aliens fans. Although as most people have cited already they cant figure out why she left...... I think she wants to investigate not only the origins but what happened on that planet.

Although as a stand alone movie I didnt think it would be viewed as a good movie. To me its just not as appealing to people who have no rooting interest.

[ROCSteady]

C'mon guys, certainly there is reason and valid ambiguity to discuss the film's events but for Dr. Elizabeth Shaw leaving the planet....


She's a f ucking scientist who just made the most important discovery in the history of our species! Also, she was the only survivor of a crew that just was destroyed (including her lover/ the dude who knocked her up with a squid creature) by the events of the discovered alien race. You think she would be thinking rationally about how to move forward? There was nothing for her on that nihilistic planet. Some ppl woulda given up and died but she's a true scientist who disregarded her safety to make further discoveries about the ultimate questions of our kind. Plus, she's a Christian... crazy extreme motivations are not foreign to their realm of thinking

[Velocirap31]

wtf

I never even noticed that


this doesn't make sense at all...

if they are different planets then I guess the ship found in Alien is just an entire different ship altogether...

The planet wasn't important. The ship just chose it as a military base. So there would likely be many other planets that were the same situation. Awesome movie though, just saw it at the IMAX in 3D. Definitely a good movie to see there.

[ROCSteady]

The planet wasn't important. The ship just chose it as a military base. So there would likely be many other planets that were the same situation. Awesome movie though, just saw it at the IMAX in 3D. Definitely a good movie to see there.

It's pretty f ucking important if u have any respect for the mystery and consistency of 1979's Alien...

[Velocirap31]

If anyone has a clue can attempt to answer this question.


I thought the movie would appeal to the die hard Alien/Aliens fans. Although as most people have cited already they cant figure out why she left...... I think she wants to investigate not only the origins but what happened on that planet.

Although as a stand alone movie I didnt think it would be viewed as a good movie. To me its just not as appealing to people who have no rooting interest.

Her lover was dead and she had no children. She probably felt she had no reason to go back to Earth. Also, the risks involved with taking one of those ships to Earth are obviously high. She has nothing to gain by going back home and nothing to lose by going to the engineer's planet. It was the right choice I think.

[Velocirap31]

It's pretty f ucking important if u have any respect for the mystery and consistency of 1979's Alien...

Yeah I didn't rewatch the original and haven't seen it in several years. I just figured the planet they went to ended up being of no significance. It was just a stop made by the engineer's ship. Not sure what significance the planet in Alien had.

[-p.tiddy-]

The planet wasn't important. The ship just chose it as a military base. So there would likely be many other planets that were the same situation. Awesome movie though, just saw it at the IMAX in 3D. Definitely a good movie to see there.
It fell on it's side and was left there JUST LIKE the ship found in Alien

I bet 90% of the people that watched this movie assumed they were the same ship/planet as Alien



I guess 2 of the same ships crashed...

[Velocirap31]

It fell on it's side and was left there JUST LIKE the ship found in Alien

I bet 90% of the people that watched this movie assumed they were the same ship/planet as Alien



I guess 2 of the same ships crashed...

Oh now I see what the fuss is about. It's likely the same ship found in the first Alien, but it's on a differently named planet. I see, that might be an inconsistency for sure.

[Heilige]

Everybody, check this link out:


http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html#cutid1




Very good analysis of the movie! Don't click if you haven't watched it yet.

[Myth]

Her lover was dead and she had no children. She probably felt she had no reason to go back to Earth. Also, the risks involved with taking one of those ships to Earth are obviously high. She has nothing to gain by going back home and nothing to lose by going to the engineer's planet. It was the right choice I think.

Exactly. Taking a ship of biochemical weapons to her own planet is a bad idea. Taking it to the planet of the engineers and using it against them makes more sense.



Additional note to those who are trying to piece together the different planet/ship stuff:
The ship at the end of Prometheus does not have an Engineer in the cockpit. The ship in Alien does, and it has its chest bursted out from a seated position. That is inconsistent in addition to the different planet thing. One possibility is that LV426 is where Dr. Shaw ends up in part 2. Or it is a completely different crashed ship. Makes sense for another ship to crash if a xenomorph pops out of another Engineer while in flight.

[Myth]

Did the alien in the end not look different then Aliens in the previous movies? Not a lot, but it definitely looked like it was a bit different then they normally looked. Maybe I'm just remembering incorrectly.

It did look different. However, it is unclear if it was different because it is before the DNA of the aliens has changed to be like what we are used to, or if Scott just wanted to redesign them to have a fresh take on them. He frequently complained that the sequels took away the mystery of the xenomorphs, so this could be his way of making them mysterious again.

[Heilige]

I liked it quite a lot, though the ending was mediocre and I was dissapointed Charlize Theron got squashed. It just seemed like having one character live was so predetermined.
A couple of things I thought about
Did the alien in the end not look different then Aliens in the previous movies? Not a lot, but it definitely looked like it was a bit different then they normally looked. Maybe I'm just remembering incorrectly.
I thought the main character didn't go back to earth because she had a ship full of biological weapons on board. Not exactly a great idea to land on earth with that stuff in my mind, and of course she has little to lose and many questions to be answered. I think I'd do the same thing in her spot. I don't really understand why people are confused by that.
I don't really understand the opening scene. If that proto Human, or super Human or whatever it was was supposed to be starting life on Earth, then why did Humans have the same DNA as them? That sequence just doesn't make much logical sense to me.



http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html#cutid1

[-p.tiddy-]

That's exactly what I was thinking. It's either those two, or as someone mentioned earlier, the original Alien ship was on another planet, so it could be a different breed altogether.
As for the article posted above, I agree with some of that, though I don't think that really answered my question about the dying proto/super human in the beggining. If they were starting life on another planet it's not clear at all why they evolved to have the same DNA as the engineers.
the DNA matched because human life started from his DNA...remember it reconstructed itself in the water

[Rameek]

i was just curious why everyone assumed it was the same planet.

it could have been the same planet because the last engineer didnt necessarily get killed by the new xeno but just impregnated and he went back inside his ship and died there...

i like the inconsistencies and the theories though... it makes it kinda intriguing.

[-p.tiddy-]

i was just curious why everyone assumed it was the same planet.

it could have been the same planet because the last engineer didnt necessarily get killed by the new xeno but just impregnated and he went back inside his ship and died there...

i like the inconsistencies and the theories though... it makes it kinda intriguing.
I just thought that he left his suit behind...

http://images.wikia.com/aliens/images/2/26/SpaceJockey.jpg

^^^ from Alien

that is just a suit, there doesn't have to be anything in it



but turns out, they were different planets altogether so I guess just different crashed ships

[Myth]

I just thought that he left his suit behind...

http://images.wikia.com/aliens/images/2/26/SpaceJockey.jpg

^^^ from Alien

that is just a suit, there doesn't have to be anything in it



but turns out, they were different planets altogether so I guess just different crashed ships

But that wouldn't explain the big hole in the chest of the suit then.

[-p.tiddy-]

But that wouldn't explain the big hole in the chest of the suit then.
yes true...

they are different ships, I just didn't realize that at first, I don't think most people did.


http://www.thereelbits.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/prometheus0012-460x250.jpg

^^^ they are both the same type of ship though

http://playeraffinity.com/images/lv426.jpg

^^^ that is from 1979 Alien

[Sarcastic]

^^^Find a new picture :roll:

[-p.tiddy-]

here we go...

http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/1222-prometheus-derelict.jpg

must be many of those same type of ships...

[-p.tiddy-]

jesus, can't get a working image link at all :mad:


anyway, the ship found in Alien is the same TYPE of ship as the ship in Prometheus, there must be many of them...that's all lol

[Myth]

We know there was at least 2 on the planet in Prometheus alone: The crashed one and the one Shaw/David took.

[Cangri]

I really was expecting much more from this movie, thought it was average.

[Velocirap31]

I really was expecting much more from this movie, thought it was average.

I saw it in IMAX 3D which was utilized really well. The seats shaked during the ship takeoffs and crashes, it was a cool experience.

[Sarcastic]

http://www.movie-moron.com/?p=22442

Good article on what Prometheus 2 may have in store.

[-p.tiddy-]

[QUOTE]To understand what he

[DonDadda59]

I can see a repeat of this if they make Jesus an alien :oldlol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAqW315se-A

But I guess any publicity is good publicity (unless Christians boycott the film I suppose).

[-p.tiddy-]

She made sure to have her Christian Cross necklace before she left on the ship...

I bet the Engineers treat her freindly when she arrives just because of that cross...



it will be really intersting to see how she deals with her beliefs when finding out Jesus was one fo them...I wonder if they touch on another "God"

[DonDadda59]

She made sure to have her Christian Cross necklace before she left on the ship...

I bet the Engineers treat her freindly when she arrives just because of that cross...



it will be really intersting to see how she deals with her beliefs when finding out Jesus was one fo them...I wonder if they touch on another "God"

Or it might remind them why they were so pissed off in the first place and then...

http://www.merrilyfanciful.com/comics/2008-04-28-decapitation.png

[-p.tiddy-]

^^^ They were supposed to kill of mankind 2,000 years ago, right after the crucifiction but they were killed by their own weapon before they had a chance.

They had no idea humans would go on to worship Jesus...

[DonDadda59]

^^^ They were supposed to kill of mankind 2,000 years ago, right after the crucifiction but they were killed by their own weapon before they had a chance.

They had no idea humans would go on to worship Jesus...

It's possible. But there's just as many who worship other deities or don't worship at all. Plus no one considers him to have been an ambassador from an alien species. Should be interesting to see how they craft the story, especially considering the Nietzsche angle they're pushing with their new viral campaign (which to me signals we should expect to see some time travel and we find out that humans will eventually evolve into the Engineer species).

[Patrick Chewing]

I really was expecting much more from this movie, thought it was average.

Same here. I can see Scott releasing an Extended Director's Cut edition which may or may not fill some holes. All in all, I thought they went straight to the "Alien" a bit too quick.

[Knicks101]

I'm easily the most important BTE poster ever.

[CelticBaller]

I'm easily the most important BTE poster ever.
:applause:

[Cangri]

Same here. I can see Scott releasing an Extended Director's Cut edition which may or may not fill some holes. All in all, I thought they went straight to the "Alien" a bit too quick.
Well I heard they want to make a trilogy, obviously depending on box office, maybe they will explain more sht, like why the "engineer" drank that strange sht at the opening scene and got killed. I felt completely lost at that opening scene and they never explained it.

[chazzy]

I really enjoyed it. Might watch it again in imax or something.. visuals were awesome

[Myth]

Well I heard they want to make a trilogy, obviously depending on box office, maybe they will explain more sht, like why the "engineer" drank that strange sht at the opening scene and got killed. I felt completely lost at that opening scene and they never explained it.

Seemed pretty straight forward to me that he was sacrificing himself to start new life.