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bwink23
06-01-2012, 09:21 PM
Kobe currently has 4,472 attempts in his career...good for 7th place on the All-time list for 3-point attempts.

Unfortunately, he shoots an anemic 33.7 FG% from downtown. There have been 18 players in NBA history to attempt 4,000 treys. Kobe is 16th out of 18 players in 3-point FG%. The only 2 guys in history worse than him are Antoine Walker and Baron Davis.

There have also been 57 players in NBA history to attempt 3,000 treys. Again, Kobe is sitting in the basement...he's in a 4-way tie for 47th best in 3-point FG%. His company is Latrell Sprewell, Rasheed Wallace, and Stephen Jackson.

Discuss.

Smoke117
06-01-2012, 09:22 PM
Kobe takes idiotic, ill-advised shots. This is known.

NoGunzJustSkillz
06-01-2012, 09:23 PM
Kobe takes idiotic, ill-advised shots. This is known.
this.

Dictator
06-01-2012, 09:23 PM
See lestern brick those two game winners yesterday?

maybeshewill13
06-01-2012, 09:24 PM
Kobe takes idiotic, ill-advised shots. This is known.

This.

RoseCity07
06-01-2012, 09:25 PM
Chuckers gonna chuck. Kobe would have had an Iverson like career if he didn't play next to Shaq.

eliteballer
06-01-2012, 09:25 PM
Kobes fingers have really hurt his 3 pointer in the last few years.

Jordan career 3 point percentage with the real line: 29%

NoGunzJustSkillz
06-01-2012, 09:27 PM
Chuckers gonna chuck. Kobe would have had an Iverson like career if he didn't play next to Shaq.
this makes so much sense.

ralph_i_el
06-01-2012, 09:27 PM
Kobes fingers have really hurt his 3 pointer in the last few years.

Jordan career 3 point percentage with the real line: 29%

but jordan didnt waste possessions shooting them

G-Funk
06-01-2012, 09:28 PM
Kobe currently has 4,472 attempts in his career...good for 7th place on the All-time list for 3-point attempts.

Unfortunately, he shoots an anemic 33.7 FG% from downtown. There have been 18 players in NBA history to attempt 4,000 treys. Kobe is 16th out of 18 players in 3-point FG%. The only 2 guys in history worse than him are Antoine Walker and Baron Davis.

There have also been 57 players in NBA history to attempt 3,000 treys. Again, Kobe is sitting in the basement...he's in a 4-way tie for 47th best in 3-point FG%. His company is Latrell Sprewell, Rasheed Wallace, and Stephen Jackson.

Discuss.

Better than MJ! :oldlol:

G-Funk
06-01-2012, 09:29 PM
but jordan didnt waste possessions shooting them

thats cause he couldn't :oldlol:

Dictator
06-01-2012, 09:29 PM
Chuckers gonna chuck. Kobe would have had an Iverson like career if he didn't play next to Shaq.

http://www.lakerstats.com/news/data/upimages/kobe_pau_title.jpg

G-Funk
06-01-2012, 09:29 PM
Kobes fingers have really hurt his 3 pointer in the last few years.

Jordan career 3 point percentage with the real line: 29%


Ouch! :eek:

gtfomyface
06-01-2012, 09:30 PM
lol? it's not like he takes open 3's all the time, he pretty much always takes contested threes, bailout 3s, and the dumbest shots ever at times, which is the reason for his low percentage, doesn't mean he's a terrible 3 point shooter, just questionable shot selection

Bladers
06-01-2012, 09:30 PM
this makes so much sense.

Absolutely. Which is why he won two rings, two fmvps and an mvp without shaq!

Smoke117
06-01-2012, 09:31 PM
Kobes fingers have really hurt his 3 pointer in the last few years.

Jordan career 3 point percentage with the real line: 29%


Shut up bitch. Kobe has shot above 35% from 3pt land four times in 16 seasons, so quit with the excuses about his fingers. He wasn't doing shit from the three point line before all these finger arthritis nonsense excuses came around.

Bladers
06-01-2012, 09:31 PM
lol? it's not like he takes open 3's all the time, he pretty much always takes contested threes, bailout 3s, and the dumbest shots ever at times, which is the reason for his low percentage, doesn't mean he's a terrible 3 point shooter

Now why bring up logic and intelligence into this thread. How does that benefit op's agenda?

NoGunzJustSkillz
06-01-2012, 09:32 PM
iverson with kobe's work ethic equals at least 1 championship.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
06-01-2012, 09:32 PM
Chuckers gonna chuck. Kobe would have had an Iverson like career if he didn't play next to Shaq.

Certainly plausible. Kobe's teams only go as far as his bigmen take them.

eliteballer
06-01-2012, 09:32 PM
Shut up bitch. Kobe has shot above 35% from 3pt land four times in 16 seasons, so quit with the excuses about his fingers. He wasn't doing shit from the three point line before all this finger arthritis nonsense excuses came around.


Ya...he only has the record for 3's made in a game:roll:

Hes shot over 35% from 3 in the playoffs 7 times.

Micku
06-01-2012, 09:32 PM
Kobes fingers have really hurt his 3 pointer in the last few years.

Jordan career 3 point percentage with the real line: 29%

I don't know about that. Even back in the day, his 3pt shooting was always streaky. He did have some good years, and he had some bad years in his younger days, even when Shaq was on his team.

Jordan hardly took 3s. Kobe takes like 4 a game in his career. Jordan only average 1.6 attempts. Even then, Jordan did have some good years with the 3pt shot. Specifically 90 and 93.

G-Funk
06-01-2012, 09:33 PM
lol? it's not like he takes open 3's all the time, he pretty much always takes contested threes, bailout 3s, and the dumbest shots ever at times, which is the reason for his low percentage, doesn't mean he's a terrible 3 point shooter, just questionable shot selection

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1302/4689970254_e88d763388_o.gif

eliteballer
06-01-2012, 09:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79y_YCkHhso

Smoke117
06-01-2012, 09:34 PM
Ya...he only has the record for 3's made in a game:roll:

Hes shot over 35% from 3 in the playoffs 7 times.


Yeah he's ****ing Ray Allen out there. So he got streaky and set some record and now he's some great three point shooter. Kobe is an average three point shooter and always has been, period. He's taken a lot more three's than he should have and he's taken a lot of idiotic, ill-advised ones as I said before. The guy leads the league in "wtf was that!?" shot taking since Allen Iverson took his leave from the NBA.

General
06-01-2012, 09:35 PM
You mad that Kobe is a better 3 point shooter than Jordan?:oldlol:

bwink23
06-01-2012, 09:36 PM
thats cause he couldn't :oldlol:


You mean Jordan couldn't waste possessions shooting them like Kobe?? :lol

Sure he could have, but that would just be STUPID...

Looking at Kobe's numbers, he wasn't very good at all....

Jordan shoots over 37%FG in ALL GAMES COMBINED where he takes 3 or more attempts in a game. The fact that Jordan shoots almost as good as Kobe career wise while averaging less than 2 attempts a game speaks volumes.

:coleman:

gtfomyface
06-01-2012, 09:40 PM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1302/4689970254_e88d763388_o.gif


33% on these kind of shots is pretty damn good, how great is our gawd :applause: :applause: :applause:

Micku
06-01-2012, 09:41 PM
lol? it's not like he takes open 3's all the time, he pretty much always takes contested threes, bailout 3s, and the dumbest shots ever at times, which is the reason for his low percentage, doesn't mean he's a terrible 3 point shooter, just questionable shot selection

He's streaky, but you're right. He's not a bad 3pt shooter like you would leave him open status. But he shouldn't have took so many 3s. Especially this year.

gtfomyface
06-01-2012, 09:43 PM
He's streaky, but you're right. He's not a bad 3pt shooter like you would leave him open status. But he shouldn't have took so many 3s. Especially this year.

guy just loves shooting regardless of the situation lmao, one of his worst years in fg%, yet his best in 2fg%

bwink23
06-01-2012, 09:46 PM
guy just loves shooting regardless of the situation lmao, one of his worst years in fg%, yet his best in 2fg%

Kobe was 46.4%FG inside of 3 this year...that's one of his WORST....you on crack??

:biggums:

G-Funk
06-01-2012, 09:46 PM
33% on these kind of shots is pretty damn good, how great is our gawd :applause: :applause: :applause:

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs3/1302283_o.gif

RoseCity07
06-01-2012, 09:48 PM
http://www.lakerstats.com/news/data/upimages/kobe_pau_title.jpg

This applies with Gasol as well. Even Kobe knows it is true, that's why he wanted out of LA when he didn't have a all-star big next to him. How can you even deny it? You instead get butt hurt and post pictures like this.

Kobe is a great player like Iverson was, AI just didn't have the talent around him. Also, don't think NBA fans didn't notice Kobe go into super chuck mode against Orlando to secure the MVP. Gasol was just as good and Kobe padded stats against an inferior Orlando team.

Smoke117
06-01-2012, 09:49 PM
http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs3/1302283_o.gif


Kobe has averaged 3.9 3pa's a game so essentially four during 16 seasons. Are we to believe that every single attempt taken was like this. "how great is our gawd" "smirk" If he takes four three pointers like that a game than he's a ****ing moron!

Micku
06-01-2012, 09:54 PM
guy just loves shooting regardless of the situation lmao, one of his worst years in fg%, yet his best in 2fg%

I don't think it is. According to Basketball-reference, his 2 pt shots are only 46.7% this year. In 07-08, it was 49.9%, which was his best year ever recorded in 2pt shots.

Deuce Bigalow
06-01-2012, 09:58 PM
Chuckers gonna chuck. Kobe would have had an Iverson like career if he didn't play next to Shaq.
http://everyjoe.com/files/2009/06/kobe-bryant-finals-mvp-lakersafplivetwo910692-bkn-nba-final-lake.jpghttp://i.imm.io/lWVK.jpeg

Mach_3
06-01-2012, 09:58 PM
Kobe takes idiotic, ill-advised shots. This is known.

Yea it's not really that he's a horrible 3 pt shooter he just takes the most retarded shots

gtfomyface
06-01-2012, 10:02 PM
I don't think it is. According to Basketball-reference, his 2 pt shots are only 46.7% this year. In 07-08, it was 49.9%, which was his best year ever recorded in 2pt shots.

oh, wrong stat, mustve been within 15 feet or something that i saw

Deuce Bigalow
06-01-2012, 10:03 PM
This applies with Gasol as well. Even Kobe knows it is true, that's why he wanted out of LA when he didn't have a all-star big next to him. How can you even deny it? You instead get butt hurt and post pictures like this.

Kobe is a great player like Iverson was, AI just didn't have the talent around him. Also, don't think NBA fans didn't notice Kobe go into super chuck mode against Orlando to secure the MVP. Gasol was just as good and Kobe padded stats against an inferior Orlando team.
:oldlol:

team your a fan of: Blazers

That explains a lot.

RazorBaLade
06-01-2012, 10:11 PM
kobe is a top 10 all time nba player

Discuss

G-Funk
06-01-2012, 10:15 PM
Kobe has averaged 3.9 3pa's a game so essentially four during 16 seasons. Are we to believe that every single attempt taken was like this. "how great is our gawd" "smirk" If he takes four three pointers like that a game than he's a ****ing moron!
is that supposed to be a bad thing? that's actually a good thing! 34% isn't high?That's really high considering how many of them he takes. Also considering that he's heavily guarded when he takes those 3's. I think he's the only player to get doubled when taking a 3.

bwink23
06-01-2012, 10:16 PM
is that supposed to be a bad thing? that's actually a good thing! 34% isn't high?That's really high considering how many of them he takes. Also considering that he's heavily guarded when he takes those 3's. I think he's the only player to get doubled when taking a 3.


See original post....he's one of the WORST considering how many he takes...:facepalm

bleedinpurpleTwo
06-01-2012, 10:49 PM
Kobe currently has 4,472 attempts in his career...good for 7th place on the All-time list for 3-point attempts.

Unfortunately, he shoots an anemic 33.7 FG% from downtown. There have been 18 players in NBA history to attempt 4,000 treys. Kobe is 16th out of 18 players in 3-point FG%. The only 2 guys in history worse than him are Antoine Walker and Baron Davis.

There have also been 57 players in NBA history to attempt 3,000 treys. Again, Kobe is sitting in the basement...he's in a 4-way tie for 47th best in 3-point FG%. His company is Latrell Sprewell, Rasheed Wallace, and Stephen Jackson.

Discuss.
remind me, what is MJ's 3pt FG pct?

necya
06-01-2012, 10:51 PM
OP title :facepalm

chazzy
06-01-2012, 10:54 PM
OP title :facepalm
:oldlol:

G-Funk
06-01-2012, 10:54 PM
See original post....he's one of the WORST considering how many he takes...:facepalm

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
1. He usually shoots them off the dribble. If he got more threes off of other players being doubled, it would probably be higher.

2. He never takes threes off of screens. If you notice all the high percentage three point shooters like Reggie Miller, Ray Allen, Peja, etc will get a few attempts off of screens to give them a little room. Kobe either likes to go off the dribble or try and just rise over the top of a player.

3. He uses 3's as a bail out shot when the shot clock goes down.

So, he's a good shooter from three he just takes the shot a bit wrecklessly. He isn't a very controlled three point shooter, that's why his percentage is at 34%.
But I would like to see that list of players who got doubled team at the triple line

sundizz
06-01-2012, 10:58 PM
Honestly, 33% is pretty damn good I think considering his type of shots?

3.9 fgs, and i'd say 1 or 2 a game is with the shot clock winding down with someone defending him. If he shot threes and shot off screens, or wide open it'd easily be 35 to 37%? No?

ShaqAttack3234
06-01-2012, 11:05 PM
Kobe extended his range and became a good 3 point shooter in the '02-'03 season and remained one through the '08-'09 season, he hasn't been a good 3 point shooter since due to the finger injuries and probably the knee injuries since your legs affect your perimeter shooter a lot. He can't get the same elevation either, but Kobe could clearly shoot 3s well from '03-'09. He's still a good mid-range shooter, though, which makes it difficult for me to understand why he still takes so many 3s, he's the best guard in the post by far, and an elite mid-range shooter. And he can draw fouls on jump shots better than anyone in the league, so he can score more than enough without 3s. Even though he's no longer very athletic and doesn't get fouled going to the basket much anymore, he still draws a good amount of fouls, and most are legit the way the game is called because defenders play him so tight, and he has such a good pump fake.


thats cause he couldn't :oldlol:

Actually, everything suggests that he could when he wanted to, at least from the '89-'90 season on, he shot a good percentage all 4 seasons he took a significant amount, 2 of them with the normal 3 point line.

Vragrant
06-01-2012, 11:19 PM
Kobes fingers have really hurt his 3 pointer in the last few years.

Jordan career 3 point percentage with the real line: 29%

What does Jordan have to do with this?

PickernRoller
06-01-2012, 11:37 PM
What does Jordan have to do with this?

OP

MJ(Mean John)
06-02-2012, 04:33 AM
Kobe currently has 4,472 attempts in his career...good for 7th place on the All-time list for 3-point attempts.

Unfortunately, he shoots an anemic 33.7 FG% from downtown. There have been 18 players in NBA history to attempt 4,000 treys. Kobe is 16th out of 18 players in 3-point FG%. The only 2 guys in history worse than him are Antoine Walker and Baron Davis.

There have also been 57 players in NBA history to attempt 3,000 treys. Again, Kobe is sitting in the basement...he's in a 4-way tie for 47th best in 3-point FG%. His company is Latrell Sprewell, Rasheed Wallace, and Stephen Jackson.

Discuss.

Man, you're such an insecure hater.

Stop thinking about Kobe and let the man be. He is what he is an let that be.
You have your own life. Enjoy it. Kobe is. You making salty ass posts and threads and CONSTANTLY TRYING TO belittle him.

28renyoy
06-02-2012, 04:40 AM
Talk about a thread backfire for OP, who is a LeBron tot

Kobe is averaging 3.8 3PA for his career and shooting 33.7%
LeBron is averaging 4.0 3PA for his career and shooting 33.1%

:facepalm

Quickening
06-02-2012, 05:02 AM
So Kobe rather has extremely low basketball IQ..... can't beat his man off the dribble.... or is just a poor shooter.

Take your pick.

Smoke117
06-02-2012, 05:30 AM
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
1. He usually shoots them off the dribble. If he got more threes off of other players being doubled, it would probably be higher.

2. He never takes threes off of screens. If you notice all the high percentage three point shooters like Reggie Miller, Ray Allen, Peja, etc will get a few attempts off of screens to give them a little room. Kobe either likes to go off the dribble or try and just rise over the top of a player.

3. He uses 3's as a bail out shot when the shot clock goes down.

So, he's a good shooter from three he just takes the shot a bit wrecklessly. He isn't a very controlled three point shooter, that's why his percentage is at 34%.
But I would like to see that list of players who got doubled team at the triple line


Come again?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U951kjBs7i8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzw_SUvLq4A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejbKF6fP0js

Show me Kobe doing that bitch.

Vienceslav
06-02-2012, 05:40 AM
He is tied for the record with 12 3 pointers made in a game though , just saying.

Smoke117
06-02-2012, 05:53 AM
He is tied for the record with 12 3 pointers made in a game though , just saying.


oh ***** went on a streak, so he's the greatest thing since since subway came up with frying bread?? lol. Kobe had a streak and has the most three pointers in a game....good for him, but putting him anywhere near Ray Allen as far three point shoot is a joke as he DESTROYS HIM.

Vienceslav
06-02-2012, 05:54 AM
oh ***** went on a streak, so he's the greatest thing since since subway came up with frying bread?? lol. Kobe had a streak and has the most three pointers in a game....good for him, but putting him anywhere near Ray Allen as far three point shoot is a joke as he DESTROYS HIM.
Yeah , Ray Allen is the best 3 point shooter ever , period.
What are you upset about Kobe having 12 3 pointers in a game?

Jacks3
06-02-2012, 06:12 AM
He was a good shooter from 03-09, but the finger injuries have pretty much destroyed that. He should take less, but is too stubborn to do so.

unknowns8
06-02-2012, 06:24 AM
Kobe takes idiotic, ill-advised shots. This is known.


BANG!

how many end-of-quarter/half/game mid-court or further prayer shots u reckon Kobe has taken... it's gotta account for a portion of all those attempts

Clutch
06-02-2012, 06:29 AM
Kobe currently has 4,472 attempts in his career...good for 7th place on the All-time list for 3-point attempts.

Unfortunately, he shoots an anemic 33.7 FG% from downtown. There have been 18 players in NBA history to attempt 4,000 treys. Kobe is 16th out of 18 players in 3-point FG%. The only 2 guys in history worse than him are Antoine Walker and Baron Davis.

There have also been 57 players in NBA history to attempt 3,000 treys. Again, Kobe is sitting in the basement...he's in a 4-way tie for 47th best in 3-point FG%. His company is Latrell Sprewell, Rasheed Wallace, and Stephen Jackson.

Discuss.
That wasn't hard to guess :lol

Calabis
06-02-2012, 08:01 AM
BANG!

how many end-of-quarter/half/game mid-court or further prayer shots u reckon Kobe has taken... it's gotta account for a portion of all those attempts

:facepalm

This has to be the worst Kobefan arguement.....these dudes act like he heaves up 400 of these in a season.

longtime lurker
06-02-2012, 11:53 AM
Doesn't 33% from 3 translate to 45% from the field or something? 33% is pretty average so I don't see where OP gets it's the worst of all time.

SwayDizzle
06-02-2012, 11:54 AM
Kobe GOAT candidate, top 6

unknowns8
06-02-2012, 12:07 PM
:facepalm

This has to be the worst Kobefan arguement.....these dudes act like he heaves up 400 of these in a season.

im not a kobe fan... :confusedshrug:

i take it the # of long range buzzer beating heaves that kobe takes isn't a lot then... :rolleyes:

The Iron Fist
06-02-2012, 12:56 PM
Chuckers gonna chuck. Kobe would have had an Iverson like career if he didn't play next to Shaq.
Explain AIs two fmvps.

Remix
06-02-2012, 01:26 PM
i mean stats and percentages really mean everything in the world.

L8k3r5
06-02-2012, 02:09 PM
Numbers don't mean shit. I've seen him hit shots 5 feet well behind the 3 point line over the years. In his prime he would just walk up and pull up from deep range. Even Rondo the so called "poor shooter" can shoot. You saw Rondo a few nights ago, just hitting 3's we don't normally see out of him. It's all in the player's mentality

RRR3
06-02-2012, 02:14 PM
Many perimeter superstars of the past decade or so who jacked 3's posted similar percentages to Kobe. Look at prime T-Mac, Cleveland LeBron, prime Iverson, etc. None of them shot elite percentages in general (both T-Mac and Kobe shot elite from 3PT in 2002-03, but that's it). To be fair, there were guys like Paul Pierce and Vince Carter who jacked 3's but still shot close to 40%. Part of it is these guys were taking like 5 a game, many if not all of them contested and ill-advised shots. Doesn't mean they weren't good shooters. LeBron cut down on his dumb 3 attempts this season, and until he went in a shooting slump the last few months he was shooting about 40% from 3. It's more about shot selection in these cases, Kobe for most of his career was a very talented 3PT shooter, he just had horrible shot selection. His 3PT shot has kind of abandoned him in recent years, though.

Calabis
06-02-2012, 02:22 PM
:facepalm
im not a kobe fan... :confusedshrug:

i take it the # of long range buzzer beating heaves that kobe takes isn't a lot then... :rolleyes:

Didn't say you were a Kobefan, I said this is the worst Kobefan excuse.....everytime someone brings up his shooting percentage, they revert to this, like if he didn't shoot these shots, he would be shooting 50% from the field.....half of his three pointers are bad shots, he has no one but himself to blame....then they talk about how he takes a lot of contested shots.....doesn't that translate to him not beating his defender off the dribble and maybe he should pass the ball and work himself open for a better shot?....:confusedshrug:

Do me a favor and look up how many buzzer beating heaves he has in 16 seasons 100 something......yeah that's the reason he's shooting 33%...:facepalm

LamarOdom
06-02-2012, 02:25 PM
Chuckers gonna chuck. Kobe would have had an Iverson like career if he didn't play next to Shaq.

No, since he won two rings w/o Shaq you are just a big idiot.

Calabis
06-02-2012, 02:26 PM
Many perimeter superstars of the past decade or so who jacked 3's posted similar percentages to Kobe. Look at prime T-Mac, Cleveland LeBron, prime Iverson, etc. None of them shot elite percentages in general (both T-Mac and Kobe shot elite from 3PT in 2002-03, but that's it). To be fair, there were guys like Paul Pierce and Vince Carter who jacked 3's but still shot close to 40%. Part of it is these guys were taking like 5 a game, many if not all of them contested and ill-advised shots. Doesn't mean they weren't good shooters. LeBron cut down on his dumb 3 attempts this season, and until he went in a shooting slump the last few months he was shooting about 40% from 3. It's more about shot selection in these cases, Kobe for most of his career was a very talented 3PT shooter, he just had horrible shot selection. His 3PT shot has kind of abandoned him in recent years, though.

Great post, I think its abandoned him, just due to age....not getting the same lift in the 4th quarter like he once was.....and a huge reason, like you said,...him never shooting 50% overall in a season is due to poor shot selection.

Droid101
06-02-2012, 02:27 PM
I'd guess Kobe gets passed the ball in a bad situation with about 3 seconds left on the shot clock behind the arc probably once a game, at least.

Leviathon1121
06-02-2012, 03:19 PM
I'd guess Kobe gets passed the ball in a bad situation with about 3 seconds left on the shot clock behind the arc probably once a game, at least.

Why is he standing out there like an idiot instead of posting up, or setting a screen, or something?

L8k3r5
06-02-2012, 03:57 PM
http://www.easymemes.com/uploads/memes/9520_XbpVYCN7SUTqLCw.jpg

TerranOP
06-02-2012, 04:14 PM
http://www.easymemes.com/uploads/memes/9520_XbpVYCN7SUTqLCw.jpg

Is this before or after he shoots 0-6 and has 2 turnovers in the closing minutes of the 4th?

Calabis
06-02-2012, 04:17 PM
I'd guess Kobe gets passed the ball in a bad situation with about 3 seconds left on the shot clock behind the arc probably once a game, at least.

After he dribbles about 8 seconds off himself

L8k3r5
06-02-2012, 04:18 PM
Is this before or after he shoots 0-6 and has 2 turnovers in the closing minutes of the 4th?
Don't know, don't care. He's also hit countless game winners and clutch shots. He came up big in game 5 against the Nuggets this year in the 4th. Go hard or go home mentality.

Droid101
06-02-2012, 04:52 PM
Why is he standing out there like an idiot instead of posting up, or setting a screen, or something?



After he dribbles about 8 seconds off himself
You guys should really try watching a few games instead of just looking at box scores.

Smoke117
06-02-2012, 05:18 PM
The excuses in this thread are pathetic. The man has essentially averaged four three point attempts during 16 seasons and he has an career average of .337% from three point land...which makes him about as average as you can be. All this finger arthritic nonsense was put to rest when I said how he's shot above 35% from the three point line FOUR TIMES IN SIXTEEN SEASONS. Were his fingers ****ed up during 12 of those years kobe stans? Shut the **** up. This bitch is one of the worst three point shooters as the OP said by attempts and percentages go. He wasn't out to hate on your hero he was just looking at statistics.

Calabis
06-02-2012, 05:50 PM
You guys should really try watching a few games instead of just looking at box scores.

No maybe you should quit acting like every three point attempt, is some desperate heave, because

A) They are buzzer beaters

B) Because his teammates waste the entire shot clock and he's forced to shoot bad shots

C) Because of Jordan fanboys

The dude dribbles or holds the ball a ton and that is when his teammates usually go into, stop and watch mode......are we going to act like Kobe's touches are now only in desperate situations:wtf:

Calabis
06-02-2012, 05:51 PM
The excuses in this thread are pathetic. The man has essentially averaged four three point attempts during 16 seasons and he has an career average of .337% from three point land...which makes him about as average as you can be. All this finger arthritic nonsense was put to rest when I said how he's shot above 35% from the three point line FOUR TIMES IN SIXTEEN SEASONS. Were his fingers ****ed up during 12 of those years kobe stans? Shut the **** up. This bitch is one of the worst three point shooters as the OP said by attempts and percentages go. He wasn't out to hate on your hero he was just looking at statistics.

But, but, but 3.95 of those attempts are desperate heaves because of his horrible teammates or buzzer beaters:roll:

Big#50
06-02-2012, 05:51 PM
KobeTards act like Kobe only gets the ball with three seconds left in the shot clock. LOL

Simple Jack
06-02-2012, 06:10 PM
KobeTards act like Kobe only gets the ball with three seconds left in the shot clock. LOL

He does, a fair amount; but not more than any other ball dominant super-star. It's retarded to use it as some excuse.

RazorBaLade
06-02-2012, 06:50 PM
He does, a fair amount; but not more than any other ball dominant super-star. It's retarded to use it as some excuse.

more often than other stars, at least a little, but in either case.. its not an excuse.

And the reason people find this thread is annoying is because it doesnt matter. Its like finding something jordan does like yo jordan is an avg ft shooter in the 4th quarter! Who cares? What does it change? Does someone go up or down all time lists because of 3 pt % or ft %? Its not that big of a deal when we're talking about a guy whos top 10 in 95% of peoples lists. It just is useless information that no one cares about.

And the thread name is dumb , hes one of the worst at his *VOLUME* not just one of worst 3 pt shooters ever.

gengiskhan
06-02-2012, 07:38 PM
KobeTards act like Kobe only gets the ball with three seconds left in the shot clock. LOL

kobe'tards forget he ballhogs like 12 secs of possible 24 secs of the shot clock on every position before shooting 22 feet fadeaway Jumper that hits everything except the bottom of the net.

Kobe 4 The Win
06-02-2012, 09:16 PM
Kobe is a great 3 point shooter. At one point he hit 12 threes in one game including 9 in a row. His confidence gets the best of him sometimes and he forces bad shots. This is why his fg% and 3pt% isn't what it should be. He takes a few too many threes for my taste. A lot of them are the bail out variety. Numbers don't tell the whole story.

You can deny it if you want but I fimly believe that when he messed up that index finger on his shooting hand it really affected his shot, especialy from deep. He was able to change his form a little bit to compensate but it's still been an issue.

no pun intended
06-02-2012, 09:23 PM
The thing about Kobe is that many overlook the fact that a majority of his shots come from bailout situations in which the Lakers can't make any plays for themselves so Kobe is depended on to take these shots, whether they are ill-advised threes or twos. This was strongly evident in the 2011-2012 season where the Lakers struggled to find an offense especially due to the retirement of Phil Jackson and his triangle offense. That is why Kobe has taken much more shots this season that most of his other seasons in his past years.

Calabis
06-02-2012, 09:30 PM
The thing about Kobe is that many overlook the fact that a majority of his shots come from bailout situations in which the Lakers can't make any plays for themselves so Kobe is depended on to take these shots, whether they are ill-advised threes or twos. This was strongly evident in the 2011-2012 season where the Lakers struggled to find an offense especially due to the retirement of Phil Jackson and his triangle offense. That is why Kobe has taken much more shots this season that most of his other seasons in his past years.

Jeez, they won't let it go....Kobe took 1336 shots, the most in the league, according to you and the rest of the excuse makers 1300 were bailouts.....the other 36 were great moves by Kobe and were all made....if Kobe wasn't forced to shoot all these bailout shots, he would shoot 90% from 3pt range:facepalm

Kobe 4 The Win
06-02-2012, 09:34 PM
The thing about Kobe is that many overlook the fact that a majority of his shots come from bailout situations in which the Lakers can't make any plays for themselves so Kobe is depended on to take these shots, whether they are ill-advised threes or twos. This was strongly evident in the 2011-2012 season where the Lakers struggled to find an offense especially due to the retirement of Phil Jackson and his triangle offense. That is why Kobe has taken much more shots this season that most of his other seasons in his past years.

Our offense was f**ked this year. The problem was exacerbated in the playoffs when Mike Brown had sessions taking extra time to bing the ball up the court in order to slow the game down. When I actually started keeping track of how many seconds were on the clock when Kobe touched the ball it was shocking. A lot of star player have that (bail out) responsibility but with Kobe it was a huge issue this year.

Kobe 4 The Win
06-02-2012, 09:41 PM
Jeez, they won't let it go....Kobe took 1336 shots, the most in the league, according to you and the rest of the excuse makers 1300 were bailouts.....the other 36 were great moves by Kobe and were all made....if Kobe wasn't forced to shoot all these bailout shots, he would shoot 90% from 3pt range:facepalm

Who's the one exaggting here c0ck breath? I think it's you.

Everyone knows that Kobe will force bad shots but stat geeks refuse to aknowledge that stats don't always tell the whole story. I put more weight in the opinion of people that watch every Laker game than a bunch of people looking for an excuse to shit on Kobe's legacy.

bwink23
06-02-2012, 10:40 PM
Jeez, they won't let it go....Kobe took 1336 shots, the most in the league, according to you and the rest of the excuse makers 1300 were bailouts.....the other 36 were great moves by Kobe and were all made....if Kobe wasn't forced to shoot all these bailout shots, he would shoot 90% from 3pt range:facepalm


It's damn near hilarious and psychotic at the same time isn't it ?? :lol :lol :lol

As if Kobe himself as nothing to do with the shots he takes. Why must some of these so-called "bail-outs" always be of the "3-point" variety??

The excuses this guy gets from his fanboys leads me to believe they are borderline HOMO.

bwink23
06-02-2012, 10:44 PM
Who's the one exaggting here c0ck breath? I think it's you.

Everyone knows that Kobe will force bad shots but stat geeks refuse to aknowledge that stats don't always tell the whole story. I put more weight in the opinion of people that watch every Laker game than a bunch of people looking for an excuse to shit on Kobe's legacy.


I've seen a hell of alot of Kobe, and TONS of those "bail-outs" as you put it are forced by Kobe's own hand. Only Kobe feels the need to hoist long 3-pointers with 5 seconds left instead of attacking. How often do you see Kobe hanging around the 3-point line waiting for the ball?? ALL THE DAMN TIME

Kobe 4 The Win
06-02-2012, 10:55 PM
It's damn near hilarious and psychotic at the same time isn't it ?? :lol :lol :lol

As if Kobe himself as nothing to do with the shots he takes. Why must some of these so-called "bail-outs" always be of the "3-point" variety??

The excuses this guy gets from his fanboys leads me to believe they are borderline HOMO.

What is it with you? Anyone who would even think to say stupid bullshit like that has a serious f**king mental problem.

SDtotheBay
06-02-2012, 11:15 PM
33.7% from 3 > 50% from 2


haters get mad.

hennigplex
06-03-2012, 02:41 AM
remind me, what is MJ's 3pt FG pct?

Since you asked, it's .327, on 1.7 attempts per game over his entire career.

Kobe's is .337 which is marginally better, but he averages 4 attempts per game. And this past season, he averaged 5 attempts, 3.5 of which were bricks.

By the way, when Jordan had as many attempts as Kobe, such as during 95-96 and 96-97, he was at 40%.

Truth bomb.

magnax1
06-03-2012, 02:48 AM
Since you asked, it's .327, on 1.7 attempts per game over his entire career.

Kobe's is .337 which is marginally better, but he averages 4 attempts per game. And this past season, he averaged 5 attempts, 3.5 of which were bricks.

By the way, when Jordan had as many attempts as Kobe, such as during 95-96 and 96-97, he was at 40%.

Truth bomb.
That's when they shortened the 3pt line.
Truth bomb.

eliteballer
06-03-2012, 02:50 AM
Since you asked, it's .327, on 1.7 attempts per game over his entire career.

Kobe's is .337 which is marginally better, but he averages 4 attempts per game. And this past season, he averaged 5 attempts, 3.5 of which were bricks.

By the way, when Jordan had as many attempts as Kobe, such as during 95-96 and 96-97, he was at 40%.

Truth bomb.

95,96.97 short 3 point line when Jordan coincidentally shot the most 3's of his career.

% with the regular line: 29%

comerb
06-03-2012, 02:59 AM
See lestern brick those two game winners yesterday?

you sound mad

comerb
06-03-2012, 03:00 AM
Kobes fingers have really hurt his 3 pointer in the last few years.

Jordan career 3 point percentage with the real line: 29%

The difference was that Jordan rarely shot 3s, because he recognized he wasn't good at them.

comerb
06-03-2012, 03:01 AM
thats cause he couldn't :oldlol:

neither can Kobe, but that doesn't stop him :roll: :roll: :roll:

RazorBaLade
06-03-2012, 04:36 AM
Since you asked, it's .327, on 1.7 attempts per game over his entire career.

Kobe's is .337 which is marginally better, but he averages 4 attempts per game. And this past season, he averaged 5 attempts, 3.5 of which were bricks.

By the way, when Jordan had as many attempts as Kobe, such as during 95-96 and 96-97, he was at 40%.

Truth bomb.

the more u shoot the lower ur pct is dumbass.. 34 on 4 is nice amount better than 33 on 2

White Mamba
06-03-2012, 04:59 AM
like kobe gives a shit about his stats, only LBJ cares about his stats.

bwink23
06-03-2012, 07:49 AM
That's when they shortened the 3pt line.
Truth bomb.


Jordan averaged near 3 attempts twice in his career in the early 90's. He shot 35.2% and 37.6% during those years from the NORMAL LINE.

He shot 24/57 in all Finals games during his first 3-peat (42.1%FG) and over 38%FG in those 3 playoff runs while leading the Bulls in 3-pointers made. That was from the NORMAL LINE.


TRUTH BOMB




http://www.lotsofneatstuff.com/sites/lotsofneatstuff.com/files/images/cristy/Truth%20bomb%20lt%20linen_preview.JPG

bwink23
06-03-2012, 07:49 AM
the more u shoot the lower ur pct is dumbass.. 34 on 4 is nice amount better than 33 on 2


You are so WRONG about that it's not even funny.

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

comerb
06-03-2012, 07:55 AM
the more u shoot the lower ur pct is dumbass.. 34 on 4 is nice amount better than 33 on 2

Did your parents drop you on your head often?

bwink23
06-03-2012, 07:58 AM
95,96.97 short 3 point line when Jordan coincidentally shot the most 3's of his career.

% with the regular line: 29%


FACTOID:

Jordan was 24/57 (42.1%FG) from 3, at 3.4 attempts a game in the NBA Finals during his first 3-peat.

Kobe was 11/30 ( 36.7%FG) at 2.1 attempts a game during his 3-peat in the NBA Finals.

Kobe in the REPEAT was 24/72 ( 33.3%FG ) from 3 at 6 attempts a game. That's alot of attempts for such a mediocre %.

SUCK ON THAT. :pimp: