Carmelo Anthony vs Kevin Durant, whats the difference?

[pauk]

I see these guys as CLONES... where one just so happen to be taller (and have a MUCH better team)

Who do you think is better?

[guy]

Durant's a much better defender, more efficient, and isn't as ball dominant.

[Bladers]

You trying too hard man.

[Rnbizzle]

Carmelo plays on a shitty team and is seen as a 'cancer' or a 'chucker' because he takes far more shots on a lower percentage because the rest of his team is incapable of scoring. Durant plays on a team with 3 great playmakers and good/great bigs. That's really 90% of what it is. Durant is probable does have a bit better shot selection but it's not as big a difference as some people make it out to be.

[Real Men Wear Green]

So you've never seen KD shoot? The special part of Durant's game is being near 7-feet tall while possessing a guard's skillset while Anthony's strength is being an SF with the ability to post and overpower defenders. They aren't completely different but aren't all that similar either.

[Bladers]

Carmelo plays on a shitty team and is seen as a 'cancer' or a 'chucker' because he takes far more shots on a lower percentage because the rest of his team is incapable of scoring. Durant plays on a team with 3 great playmakers and good/great bigs. That's really 90% of what it is. Durant is probable does have a bit better shot selection but it's not as big a difference as some people make it out to be.

lol thats not it at all.

Its quite evident that Durant is the:

Better Scorer
Better Mid-range & 3pt Shooter
Better Finisher
Better Ball Handler
Better Off-Ball
Better Re-bounder
Better Facilitator
Better Defender

[ralph_i_el]

KD play's defense and his strength is shooting and shooting over people

Melo dosen't play defense and his strength is posting up smaller defenders at the 3 position, or being too quick for 4's to guard with his faceup game.

Do you think Lebron and rudy gay are the same player too? Or are you just saying this because of your lebron-fondling agenda?

[dunksby]

pauk.

[oolalaa]

I see these guys as CLONES... where one just so happen to be taller (and have a MUCH better team)

Who do you think is better?

Lebron is a clone of prime T-Mac....except he's a worse outside shooter :banana:

[SilkkTheShocker]

Durant is a lot better than Melo

[All Net]

:rolleyes:

[Chrono90]

Durant is the greater player.

1) Better scorer period. Melo had stretches where he just tears the league up with points. BUT, we're talking about a month or two at best. Durant led the league in scoring 3 times. Durant has been the better efficient scorer too. Taking less shots to score more points. Durant has a better three point shot while Melo has a better post game. Bottom line, Durant has been the better scorer the past three seasons.

2) Better defender. Self explanatory.

Melo is a very very good player in his own rights. But Durant's just great.
To me, Durant has been better than Melo about 4 seasons ago. And i started out as a Melo fan but his lack of work ethnic and improvement over his career just lost my love for his game. Melo does not work hard like Kobe or Lebron, and therefore, can not be compared to them once their careers are all over. It might not even be close.

[Vienceslav]

Loving this thread.:lol
Durant is much closer to Lebron than Melo is to Durant.

[Bigsmoke]

Melo has a better post game and thats it.

[Fudge]

:roll:

Serious? KD is considered to be better than LeBron to some. Don't get bitter now.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

And OP seriously wonders why Lebron gets flak? :oldlol:

[tpols]

When Durant embarrasses Lebron in the Finals I cant wait to see your reaction.:oldlol:

[kurple]

the difference is that one of them is better than the other

melo cant touch KD

[iamgine]

Their stats look very similar indeed.

[kurple]

Carmelo plays on a shitty team and is seen as a 'cancer' or a 'chucker' because he takes far more shots on a lower percentage because the rest of his team is incapable of scoring. Durant plays on a team with 3 great playmakers and good/great bigs. That's really 90% of what it is. Durant is probable does have a bit better shot selection but it's not as big a difference as some people make it out to be.
Melo have always played with great scorers as Iverson, JR Smith, STAT, Nene etc

Durant doesnt kill ball movement the way Melo does

Melo is a GREAT scorer, but is also a black hole. He isnt talented to win on his own, and isnt a good enough team mate to win with another star

[pauk]

You trying too hard man.

Trying what? Trying hard to see who thinks is better between these two very similar SFs?

[Sarcastic]

Melo have always played with great scorers as Iverson, JR Smith, STAT, Nene etc

Durant doesnt kill ball movement the way Melo does

Melo is a GREAT scorer, but is also a black hole. He isnt talented to win on his own, and isnt a good enough team mate to win with another star

Westbrook and Harden are better than anything Melo had in Denver. Iverson was past prime, and Billups was getting old as well.

[iamgine]

Melo have always played with great scorers as Iverson, JR Smith, STAT, Nene etc

Durant doesnt kill ball movement the way Melo does

Melo is a GREAT scorer, but is also a black hole. He isnt talented to win on his own, and isnt a good enough team mate to win with another star
I guess that's it. Melo like to overdribble and just being a black hole in general. Durant plays within the offense.

[ukballer]

lol thats not it at all.

Its quite evident that Durant is the:

Better Scorer
Better Mid-range & 3pt Shooter
Better Finisher
Better Ball Handler
Better Off-Ball
Better Re-bounder
Better Facilitator
Better Defender

That awkward moment I can't help but agree with Bladers. It'll never happen again.

[Sarcastic]

Melo is a cancer, yet almost everyone does better with him. :rolleyes:

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/401810_10150835409006793_1618975742_n.jpg

[tmacattack33]

Durant...

1. Has a little more range
2. Has a couple inches on Melo and is therefore a little harder to guard
3. Is smarter
4. Is a better defender



Those 4 are a pretty big deal and that's what separates the second best player in the league from somebody who barely is top 10 (and at times is outside of the top 10).

[pauk]

KD play's defense and his strength is shooting and shooting over people

Melo dosen't play defense and his strength is posting up smaller defenders at the 3 position, or being too quick for 4's to guard with his faceup game.

Do you think Lebron and rudy gay are the same player too? Or are you just saying this because of your lebron-fondling agenda?

Since when does Durant play great defense? Compared to who? Steve Nash? Both Carmelo/Durant have similar defense...
Its not like you can significantly see any difference defensively between those two, not like Durant is 1st team all-defensive or 2nd or 3rd there anyways or something....

Carmelo & Durant are very similar players in every way...

Rudy Gay & Lebron? How is that a good example? Lebron averages almost double the amount of his points, much more rebounds and triple the amount of his assists and is a 1000000000000000000 times better defender....

Carmelo & Durant are both volume shooting pure scorers with extremly similar numbers & gamestyles.... there is a major difference, Gay/Lebron are not even on the same dimensions..

I feel like Carmelo is extremly underrated or it could be that Durant is overrated...

[OKCThunderUP]

Trying what? Trying hard to see who thinks is better between these two very similar SFs?

Try harder. Your agenda is obvious.

[Sarcastic]

Since when does Durant play defense? Both have similar defense...
Its not like you can significantly see any difference defensively between those two, not like Durant is 1st team all-defensive or 2nd or 3rd there anyways or something....

Carmelo & Durant are very similar players in every way...

Rudy Gay & Lebron? How is that a good example? Lebron averages almost double the amount of his points, much more rebounds and triple the amount of his assists and is a 1000000000000000000 times better defender....

Carmelo & Durant are both volume shooting pure scorers with extremly similar numbers & gamestyles.... there is a major difference..

Either Carmelo is underrated or Durant is overrated...


They don't have similar game styles at all.

You are right about Carmelo is underrated and Durant is overrated tho.

[TheMan]

I see these guys as CLONES... where one just so happen to be taller (and have a MUCH better team)

Who do you think is better?
Durant will be the best player in the NBA in 2 or 3 years whereas Anthony won't ever sniff the top spot.

[jbot]

durant actually passes the ball. i think melo either lacks this ability or just forgets to.

[JohnnySic]

People are selling Carmelo short. He can create his own offense ("something out of nothing") to a greater extent than Durant can, who relies more on the system to get his looks (fast breaks, iso's, etc).

That said, Durant is a slightly better overall player.

[StateOfMind12]

Durant is the second best player in the league, arguably the best player in the league while Melo is not even a top 10 player in the league.

They have nothing in common other than playing the same position.

Melo is the most overrated player in the league and it truly is not close.

[Sarcastic]

durant actually passes the ball. i think melo either lacks this ability or just forgets to.

Yet Carmelo averages more assists and fewer turnovers per game.
Ok.

[Ketchup]

lol thats not it at all.

Its quite evident that Durant is the:

Better Scorer
Better Mid-range & 3pt Shooter
Better Finisher
Better Ball Handler
Better Off-Ball
Better Re-bounder
Better Facilitator
Better Defender

Agree with everything apart from rebounding. Carmelo is exponentially better at rebounding. One of the best at his position in the league. If not the best.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Durant is the second best player in the league, arguably the best player in the league while Melo is not even a top 10 player in the league.

They have nothing in common other than playing the same position.

Melo is the most overrated player in the league and it truly is not close.

This.

[GOBB]

Classic example of a rep following a player to his/her grave. Durant defense is not that much better than Carmelo Anthony. Please kill that noise. Look you want to pick Durant because he replies to you on twitter, facebook or makes a youtube video saying thanks? You want to pick Durant because he dresses like you? Or Durant is so damn nice you'd let him bone your sister on your bed without being upset? Fine. But dont go making up stuff and pretending he does something better than Carmelo.

Durant defense can be just as ridiculous as Carmelo's. But you dont like Carmelo so you give Durant the lead in defense. Get out of here. Stop it.

[chazzy]

pauk getting nervous

[GOBB]

durant actually passes the ball. i think melo either lacks this ability or just forgets to.

I'm sorry when did Durant become a better playmaker than Carmelo Anthony? Stop it. Carmelo rep as a ball hog, chucking black hole has people giving other players extra credit for work they didnt f*cking complete. And no this doesnt say Durant hasnt made plays with the ball that didnt involve scoring. Its to say stop acting like Durant passing is much better than Melo. Its not.

Just because Durant wears a goofy book bag and dresses like a tool. Doesnt mean he somehow has become this better passing, playmaker than Carmelo.

[kurple]

Melo is a cancer, yet almost everyone does better with him. :rolleyes:

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/401810_10150835409006793_1618975742_n.jpg
not being as good as durant doesnt make him a cancer

get real.

[kurple]

I'm sorry when did Durant become a better playmaker than Carmelo Anthony? Stop it. Carmelo rep as a ball hog, chucking black hole has people giving other players extra credit for work they didnt f*cking complete. And no this doesnt say Durant hasnt made plays with the ball that didnt involve scoring. Its to say stop acting like Durant passing is much better than Melo. Its not.

Just because Durant wears a goofy book bag and dresses like a tool. Doesnt mean he somehow has become this better passing, playmaker than Carmelo.
Melo is a very skilled passer, but he KILLS ball movement. that's a fact

[tpols]

Carmelo Anthony PO: 28/8/2(:oldlol:thats assists )41%FG

Kevin Durant PO: 27/7/4(double the assists)50%FG

So Durant is twice as efficient, plays within the offense, has been a much better playmaker, is just as if not more clutch, and will undoubtedly play much better against Miami in the finals than Melo did in the first round. And of course I watched Durant single handedly lock Kobe up for the two collosal comebacks in the OKC-LAL series after Kobe had been torching Harden all game. His defense is so underrated.

Unless you think 1 extra rebound and 1 extra poiint eclipses a MASSIVE 9% FG difference, double the assists, and more impactful defense Durant has been way, way better than Melo this year and last actually.

[tpols]

Melo is a cancer, yet almost everyone does better with him. :rolleyes:

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/401810_10150835409006793_1618975742_n.jpg
So TS is the only way to gauge whether someone is playing 'better' with Melo? No points, assists or any other stats?:wtf:

I watched Melo all year this year and last on the Knicks.. he's a very low impact player. The definition of all flash and no substance.

[Sarcastic]

:oldlol: @ acting like 4 assists is so much better than 2 assists.


.5 is twice as much as .25 as well, but that doesn't mean it's that much more. Using percentages at such low values is almost irrelevant.

[kurple]

Westbrook and Harden are better than anything Melo had in Denver. Iverson was past prime, and Billups was getting old as well.
Iverson was not past his prime. His most efficient seasons came when he was in Denver, and he still averaged around 25ppg

Billups was as good as ever. He had his two highest scoring seasons ever in Denver (his 2nd time there)

come on son

He also had prime Camby, Dre and KMart on his teams. + Denver have always had one of the better benches in the league

[Carbine]

Durants playmaking is undervalued if you judge it off his per game numbers.

He's sharing the ball with two other perimeter big time players. If he was given more chances to run pick and roll and have the ball in his hands, his assists would go up naturally.

[TAZORAC]

Durant's a much better defender, more efficient, and isn't as ball dominant.


Difference between Anthony and Durant? Everything "guy" said other then the more efficient part.

Duran would never hit 40 plus on Lebron James.

[Sarcastic]

Iverson was not past his prime. His most efficient seasons came when he was in Denver, and he still averaged around 25ppg

Billups was as good as ever. He had his two highest scoring seasons ever in Denver (his 2nd time there)

come on son

He also had prime Camby, Dre and KMart on his teams. + Denver have always had one of the better benches in the league


And why exactly do you think that is? Did he get better all of the sudden? Or is it that playing with a player like Melo got him much better looks at the basket?

[kurple]

Melo is a very good and talented basketball player.. But durant is clearly better

[tpols]

:oldlol: @ acting like 4 assists is so much better than 2 assists.


.5 is twice as much as .25 as well, but that doesn't mean it's that much more. Using percentages at such low values is almost irrelevant.
There's a HUGE difference between 2 and 4 assists from the SF position. Everyone who watches Melo says hes a blackhole.. the stats support it and theres really nothing you can say. And this while Durant has stepped up his playmaking in the playoffs.

If you want to compare regular season scoring:

Durant 28 on 50%
Melo 23 on 43%

Durant just shits on Melo and this will be a joke of a comparison in a few years.. possibly weeks if he wins a FMVP.

[kurple]

And why exactly do you think that is? Did he get better all of the sudden? Or is it that playing with a player like Melo got him much better looks at the basket?
They still lost in the 1st round every year..

Melo isnt a winner on the NBA level.. He could win by himself in college, but not on this level

[tpols]

And why exactly do you think that is? Did he get better all of the sudden? Or is it that playing with a player like Melo got him much better looks at the basket?
2005/2006 rule changes.. it was very easy to see why a small player like Iverson who constantly got bullied around in the early 2000s played much better when defenders werent allowed to touch him anymore.

[Sarcastic]

Melo is a very good and talented basketball player.. But durant is clearly better

I never said Melo was better, but the way people post on here, they make it seem like Melo is a D-League player compared to him.

[Sarcastic]

2005/2006 rule changes.. it was very easy to see why a small player like Iverson who constantly got bullied around in the early 2000s played much better when defenders werent allowed to touch him anymore.

Followed by a precipitous drop off the following year.

[hawke812]

I see these guys as CLONES... where one just so happen to be taller (and have a MUCH better team)

Who do you think is better?

failpauk.com

[swi7ch]

One is a cancer, one is not.

[Sarcastic]

Allen Iverson @ 31 years old shoots 41% with Philly, then goes to Denver and shoots 45% for the rest of the year. The next year at 32 he shoots 45% with Denver the whole year. The next year at 33 he is in Detroit shooting 41% again.

Yea, Melo had nothing to do with his improved shooting percent. :rolleyes:

[LJJ]

Melo is a cancer, yet almost everyone does better with him. :rolleyes:

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/401810_10150835409006793_1618975742_n.jpg

That's nice. You do realize what this chart says right? It says that a team fully build around Anthony performs better when he is playing, than when the second unit is playing.

http://i.imgur.com/U9YgR.gif

Now look at the play of his teammates before and after they played with Anthony. Where the **** is your chart with Amare's numbers with the Knicks before Anthony came to town, and after?

Now look at how well Anthony's teams do for the overall talent level on the roster.

[IGOTGAME]

they are similar imo...Durant is a better jumpshooter. Overall, I think Durant benefits a lot from playing with such a stacked team because he can disappear for quarters at a time in playoff games(helps his fg%).


He's sharing the ball with two other perimeter big time players. If he was given more chances to run pick and roll and have the ball in his hands, his assists would go up naturally.

he doesn't seem like he is very good at it in the halfcourt though.

[tpols]

Allen Iverson @ 31 years old shoots 41% with Philly, then goes to Denver and shoots 45% for the rest of the year. The next year at 32 he shoots 45% with Denver the whole year. The next year at 33 he is in Detroit shooting 41% again.

Yea, Melo had nothing to do with his improved shooting percent. :rolleyes:
He got older.:oldlol: What do you expect? Not to mention he goes from playing on a contender level team in Denver to fvcking Detroit.. where his motivation wasnt the same as an aging/declining player on a losing team.

[Sarcastic]

That's nice. You do realize what this chart says right? It says that a team fully build around Anthony performs better when he is playing, than when the second unit is playing.

http://i.imgur.com/U9YgR.gif

Now look at the play of his teammates before and after they played with Anthony. Where the **** is your chart with Amare's numbers with the Knicks before Anthony came to town, and after?

Now look at how well Anthony's teams do for the overall talent level on the roster.

What are you talking about? The chart shows how players shoot in the minutes with Melo and without. Allen Iverson was a career 51% TS player before he played with Melo. In the time he did play with Melo he was a 55% TS player.


As for his time with Amar'e. Well they spent most of it with the worst coach in basketball. Look what Jalen Rose had to say about Pringles.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/43774/nba-today-jalen-rose-luc-richard-mbah-a-moute


I played for the Phoenix Suns. 2007. My last season. As were playing against the San Antonio Spurs. And I remember us coming to our first practice before Game 1. And we brought it in. And we were excited about our playoffs getting started. And Coach D'Antoni put in some film. It was Steve behind the back. Amare slam dunk. Shawn Marion with the block. Raja Bell with the charge. It was a highlight film of our team. They have showed me making a shot on there, and I was barely even playing.

So after that he as like all right, we're going to run and down, go through our set plays and whatnot, and we're going to get out of here.

And I looked at Kurt Thomas. I hit him with an elbow. I'm like hold on. I gotta say something.

So I did my Arnold Horshack from "Welcome Back, Kotter."

I'm like "ooh, ooh, ooh, hey coach. I gotta ask a question. Are we going to talk about how we're going to defend Tim Duncan on the post? Are we going to talk about Manu Ginobili in pick and roll? Keeping Tony Parker out of the paint?"

He looked at me in front of the entire team and coaching staff and said: "We're not worried about what they do. If we play to the best of our abilities, and do what we're supposed to do, there is no way they can beat us. We don't mind if Tim goes off. If Tim goes off, that means everybody else is quiet."

[Sarcastic]

He got older.:oldlol: What do you expect? Not to mention he goes from playing on a contender level team in Denver to fvcking Detroit.. where his motivation wasnt the same as an aging/declining player on a losing team.

So 33 is old, but 32 is his most efficient year ever. Ok.


:durantunimpressed:

[StateOfMind12]

Durant defense can be just as ridiculous as Carmelo's. But you dont like Carmelo so you give Durant the lead in defense. Get out of here. Stop it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBxzrUVRVsI

Who should I listen to? You or George Karl?

Durant is the better defender even if you do want to Karl's opinion worth a grain of salt. Durant is a much better man to man defender and he showed in the 2nd round of the playoffs when he matched up with Kobe in the 4th. Kobe couldn't buy a shot when Durant was on him and it was brick city all day.

He showed more flashes of great defenses other times as well but this is the best example I could think of.

I suggest you simply watch more Thunder/Durant games.

[kurple]

As for his time with Amar'e. Well they spent most of it with the worst coach in basketball.
Blah, Blah, Blah

D'Antonis offense known for making the players post up better #'s than they should

[tpols]

What are you talking about? The chart shows how players shoot in the minutes with Melo and without. Allen Iverson was a career 51% TS player before he played with Melo. In the time he did play with Melo he was a 55% TS player.


As for his time with Amar'e. Well they spent most of it with the worst coach in basketball. Look what Jalen Rose had to say about Pringles.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/43774/nba-today-jalen-rose-luc-richard-mbah-a-moute
How come the Knicks offense was so terrible the past few years though? Your quote shows why their D was ass. But Pringles had coached some great offensive teams in Pheonix and even had Amare playing great before Melo arrived just like with the Suns. When he came over and had Melo though? The offense was beyond terrible.

Wait that was because they had no training camp right?:oldlol:

[Fudge]

:oldlol: @ acting like 4 assists is so much better than 2 assists.


.5 is twice as much as .25 as well, but that doesn't mean it's that much more. Using percentages at such low values is almost irrelevant.
But you pointed out that Melo averages more assists(by 0.1 :oldlol:) and less turnovers (about 1 less) than Durant in response to jbot?

[kurple]

Who should I listen to? You or George Karl?

If there's one guy that doesnt know defense, then it's george karl..

but KD do have more effort on D

[dbugz]

The only advantage of Melo to Durant is, Melo is stronger and has legit post up game compared to Durant. Everything else is <<<<<<<<<<<<< Durant.

[OKCThunderUP]

Are people in here seriously trying to debate Melo's defense vs KD's? It's KD by a landslide. It's not even close. Check his synergy numbers this year. KD was one of the better iso defenders in the game.

Honestly I can't even believe we're still having Melo vs KD discussions. KD is one of the top 2 players in the world. Melo MIGHT break top 20. MIGHT.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Are people in here seriously trying to debate Melo's defense vs KD's? It's KD by a landslide. It's not even close. Check his synergy numbers this year. KD was one of the better iso defenders in the game.

Honestly I can't even believe we're still having Melo vs KD discussions. KD is one of the top 2 players in the world. Melo MIGHT break top 20. MIGHT.

Yep. People need to quit living in the past. We're three years removed from 2009 ya know? :lol

[kurple]

Are people in here seriously trying to debate Melo's defense vs KD's? It's KD by a landslide. It's not even close. Check his synergy numbers this year. KD was one of the better iso defenders in the game.

Honestly I can't even believe we're still having Melo vs KD discussions. KD is one of the top 2 players in the world. Melo MIGHT break top 20. MIGHT.
why cant 14 year old boys handle that their favorite team is doing well without turning into assholes?

melo is clearly top 20

[Fudge]

Are people in here seriously trying to debate Melo's defense vs KD's? It's KD by a landslide. It's not even close. Check his synergy numbers this year. KD was one of the better iso defenders in the game.

Honestly I can't even believe we're still having Melo vs KD discussions. KD is one of the top 2 players in the world. Melo MIGHT break top 20. MIGHT.
Agree with everything except the last part. I have him in my Top 15. :oldlol: Nothing too major, but thought i'd point that out.

[Sarcastic]

But you pointed out that Melo averages more assists(by 0.1 :oldlol:) and less turnovers (about 1 less) than Durant in response to jbot?

I am not saying Melo is is twice as good a passer as Durant. I am saying they are relatively equal as playmakers, and the notion that Durant blows him out because of 2 extra assists is a joke.

[tpols]

Dammit weve all been trolled by pauk:facepalm

[Sarcastic]

Blah, Blah, Blah

D'Antonis offense known for making the players post up better #'s than they should

That's true for point guards, ie Jeremy Lin, Raymond Felton, etc.

[Sarcastic]

Are people in here seriously trying to debate Melo's defense vs KD's? It's KD by a landslide. It's not even close. Check his synergy numbers this year. KD was one of the better iso defenders in the game.

Honestly I can't even believe we're still having Melo vs KD discussions. KD is one of the top 2 players in the world. Melo MIGHT break top 20. MIGHT.

Name 20 players better than Carmelo. Please.

[BlackVVaves]

Are people in here seriously trying to debate Melo's defense vs KD's? It's KD by a landslide. It's not even close. Check his synergy numbers this year. KD was one of the better iso defenders in the game.

Honestly I can't even believe we're still having Melo vs KD discussions. KD is one of the top 2 players in the world. Melo MIGHT break top 20. MIGHT.

Name 20 players better than Melo. We're waiting.

[RaininTwos]

Are people in here seriously trying to debate Melo's defense vs KD's? It's KD by a landslide. It's not even close. Check his synergy numbers this year. KD was one of the better iso defenders in the game.

Honestly I can't even believe we're still having Melo vs KD discussions. KD is one of the top 2 players in the world. Melo MIGHT break top 20. MIGHT.
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repulsive post is repulsive.

[OKCThunderUP]

Name 20 players better than Carmelo. Please.

See SI's Top 100 list from this past summer.

I might actually move him up to around 15 after this season because some guys have fallen off. But he's still not comparable to KD.

[Chrono90]

Inch for inch, there's going to be arguments about who's better in passing and whatever it may be.

Pound for pound, KD is the better overall player hands down.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

http://imageftw.com/uploads/20120506/1336340668789.gif

repulsive post is repulsive.

Other than his ranking of Melo, his point still stands. KD>>> and it ain't even that close.

[GOBB]

See SI's Top 100 list from this past summer.

I might actually move him up to around 15 after this season because some guys have fallen off. But he's still not comparable to KD.

I did and you said Melo MIGHT break top 20. MIGHT. Yet the list clearly shows he was in the top 20 (ranked 20). So where is this MIGHT...MIGHT crap? Durant was ranked 8. You said Durant was a top 2 player. So which is it? you going to cite Sports Illustrated rankings and go by them or create your own?

I cant hear you, speak up. Because if your counter is to say the rankings were made before the season and as of today Durant moved from 8 to 2. Then where did Melo move down? You cant say that. Just makes your entire post and reply "See SI top 100" posts seem utterly ridiculous.

Go to the ladies room and powder. Fix yourself up.

[OKCThunderUP]

I did and you said Melo MIGHT break top 20. MIGHT. Yet the list clearly shows he was in the top 20 (ranked 20). So where is this MIGHT...MIGHT crap? Durant was ranked 8. You said Durant was a top 2 player. So which is it? you going to cite Sports Illustrated rankings and go by them or create your own?

I cant hear you, speak up. Because if your counter is to say the rankings were made before the season and as of today Durant moved from 8 to 2. Then where did Melo move down? You cant say that. Just makes your entire post and reply "See SI top 100" posts seem utterly ridiculous.

Go to the ladies room and powder. Fix yourself up.

I pointed to that list because I can't be arsed to make my own. And I already conceded that he's closer to 15.

KD is clearly better than last year. Where did Melo improve?

[kurple]

GOBB is a closet Melo fan

[Heavincent]

pauk is so terrified :oldlol:

[BuGzBuNNy]

so obviously insecure :hammerhead:

[NumberSix]

The difference is that KD is a star player. Melo is JR Smith.

[28renyoy]

1st off: Durant is a much smarter player and rarely gets himself in a spot that is not best for the team

Durant is a much, much better shooter.
Durant has better handles and is a much, much better slasher.
Durant is a better passer due to his willingness to pass. Anthony may average more assists, but that is because he is more ball dominant
Durant is a better rebounder but it's slim
Durant is a much, much better defender

Hell Durant might even be better at ISO sets at this point due to his ridiculous height

[NuggetsFan]

I remember when KD was first coming up and arguing this. KD's defense has improved since than and Melo is still the same in that area. When he tries? He's actually pretty good but doesn't consistently look to defend. A big advantage Melo use to have was playoff experience. At this point the playoffs probably favor Durant.

Durant is the better player. He keeps on getting better while it feels like Carmelo is regressing. 2 years ago it would have been laughable to suggest Durant was comparable getting others involved as well as Melo but nowadays you could probably argue it's true.

Melo's still the more versatile scorer and better rebounder and saying he isn't a top 20 player is ridiculous. If he turns it on next year he'll be right back to where he was before. Durant however took that next step and has became a truly elite player.

[ronniec]

Melo has a better post game and thats it.

THIS

[ThunderStruk022]

pauk is so terrified :oldlol:

I think this is the best way to view it. With every Durant vs. __________ thread he's just getting more and more insecure and realizing, at 23, Durant is catching up to LeBron in a hurry.

[ClutchOver9000]

well, a Melo vs Durant thread. This is new.

anyhow, KD is a great player but the difference btwn him and Melo isn't as great as some wanna make it sound.

Its funny 'cuz Melo, who supposedly has the "most overrated" tag attached to him by many posters, gets bashed so much in comparison to his peers, that I actually find him to be UNDERRATED on this board.

KD is a more efficient player I'll give you that. Taller/longer, better finisher, better shooter. But Melo is a great shooter in his own right, and has a much better frame to absorb and dish out contact. Both are insanely hard to guard on most nights.

IMO Melo's the better rebounder. As for defense gimme a break, KD's defense is nothing special. Tired of this "much better defender" crap.

KD is the better player overall, but its closer than perceived, not some canyon-wide gap like the Melo-haters/KD-lovers would want you to believe.

BTW, why do ppl refuse to take KD's superstar teammates into account when discussing his 'greatness'???

Westbrook may have pretty low PG IQ but the kid is a bonafide stud, and Harden has an argument for being considered the best 2-guard in the league at the moment.

The KD/Westbrook/Harden trio is possibly the best in the league w/ only MIA having a trio worthy of being in that discussion.

[winwin]

wow .. lebron prostitutes trying so hard. insecurity much?

NumberSix
GOOB
RaininTwos


''a low self esteem prostitute who wishes to see much more women engaged in prostitution''

that's Lebron and his jockers

Lebron is the prostitute of the NBA
his jockers are the prostitutes of ISH

[04mzwach]

:facepalm

[Living Being]

They both can only dunk because of their length, so I'd say they are not different at all.

[pegasus]

Durant >> Lebron > Melo

[Fudge]

Durant >> Lebron > Melo
This.

[cteach111]

Melo is not on Durant's level

[knicksman]

The better question is whats the difference between tmac and ray allen. One is overrated because of statpadding just like lebron while the other one is a winner like durant. Durant at age 23 already made a team a contender or even 21 coz theres no difference really in the west between 8th seed and 1st seed while lebron at age 23 is not even a playoff team in the west.