Worst reffed game since Game 6 of Lakers/Kings

[Da Hammer]

That was just so bad and I'm no Spurs fan :facepalm

[Velocirap31]

The better team won.

[Da Hammer]

The better team won.
Whether that's true that doesn't change the fact that they were absolutely screwed by the refs

[el_locoteee]

Lol Spurs got out flopped :roll:

[AT9]

Whether that's true that doesn't change the fact that they were absolutely screwed by the refs

Exactly. With fair officiating, this game could well have been going back to SA for game 7.

[liquidrage]

**** you. If the game got called clean the Thunder win by 20. The Spurs offense revolves around moving screens and holding on screens. They get away with it NON STOP.

So **** you.

[33teeth]

Don't disrespect the 2002 Kings like this. Just don't.

I'm guessing you were about 7 when that game happened. Grow up. This wasn't even in the same ballpark.

[RoseCity07]

This one game may have been fixed, but the last 3 weren't. Refs can't turn 4 straight games. Spurs with one of the most unbelievable choke jobs.

[KG215]

We got the benefit of some calls in the second half. I have no problem admitting that, but that's not the only reason we came back and won the game. Durant would not let the team quit and willed them back in the game.

[LBJMVP]

very over exagerated. go look up tape of the kings/lakers game and it blows the hell out of this game in terms of refereeing.


from what i saw, this game wasnt that bad.

[Derka]

Don't disrespect the 2002 Kings like this. Just don't.

I'm guessing you were about 7 when that game happened. Grow up. This wasn't even in the same ballpark.

Very much this.

[bigkingsfan]

Spurs shot like 30% in the 2nd half, and that's why they lost.

[Da Hammer]

Don't disrespect the 2002 Kings like this. Just don't.

I'm guessing you were about 7 when that game happened. Grow up. This wasn't even in the same ballpark.
Are you dumb? I said it's the worst reffed game since that game. I didnt say it was worse.

[Velocirap31]

Don't disrespect the 2002 Kings like this. Just don't.

I'm guessing you were about 7 when that game happened. Grow up. This wasn't even in the same ballpark.

Completely true. This game was blatant rigging or anywhere close to it.

[LBJMVP]

Are you dumb? I said it's the worst reffed game since that game. I didnt say it was worse.

not even close.

you, my friend, are butt hurt as f*ck.

[NumberSix]

How are there this many Thunder fans? Have I severely underestimated how many people live in Oklahoma?

[Da Hammer]

not even close.

you, my friend, are butt hurt as f*ck.
Hardly I'm not even a Spurs fan :D

[IGotACoolStory]

It was bad. Really bad.

Why are people (raptor, most okc fans) so reluctant to agree? You guys won and nothing is going to change it.

Just as I am saying the Spurs got screwed in Game 6, I also agree that OKC was the better team in the series.


Get your head out of your ass people. You might think clearer.

[Yung D-Will]

I've always wondered if fans who see a game being clearly officated in their favor actually belive nothing happend or if they're just in denial.

I guess it's a bit of both

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

Tony Parker in that 3rd quarter was when the game was lost (IMO). He kind of quit making those "quick hitter" plays. Combine that with Duncan not willing to shoot the wide open 15 footer to start the 3rd and it killed all their momentum. At home you can correct that. But on the road? Too much.

Both were way too hesitant with the year on the line. If you are going down, go down swinging.

[Tenchi Ryu]

It was bad. Really bad.

Why are people (raptor, most okc fans) so reluctant to agree? You guys won and nothing is going to change it.

Just as I am saying the Spurs got screwed in Game 6, I also agree that OKC was the better team in the series.


Get your head out of your ass people. You might think clearer.
Agree 100%

OKC definitely worked hard to get where they are, and do deserve to be in the Finals. But this was not the way I wanted them to win if they would have won. And it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I'd rather be praising the story of how Durant went god mode, but now you're gonna hear more stories about how Crawford made side deals and shit..

[JustinJDW]

Calls were horrible. To have 11 fouls and 14 free throws in the 4th quarter in an elimination game just blows my mind. And we're one the best teams in the league at not fouling. Feels absolutely shitty to have your team's season end that way. But I'm a Spurs fan, so I guess that makes me biased.

[Velocirap31]

I think I've just seen games that were far worse for team favouritism, that this one didn't seem bad at all.

[gilalizard]

lol no

you need to watch some Heat/Lebron games if you want to see blatant bias on a historical level

no one sees more ref bias in their favor nowadays than the Heat and LeBron

[Da Hammer]

I've always wondered if fans who see a game being clearly officated in their favor actually belive nothing happend or if they're just in denial.

I guess it's a bit of both
Yea probably both and also others that love the NBA so much that they refuse to think negative of the league in any way.

[ace23]

Do people really not know what since means?

[Yung D-Will]

Yea probably both and also others that love the NBA so much that they refuse to think negative of the league in any way.


That was me up until this point. I've been in denial that the refs just benifit one team over another and usally justify it by saying that the agressive team gets more calls.

But this was it. This game blew the lid off and changed my whole view on biased reffing in the nba

[Da Hammer]

Do people really not know what since means?
Yea it's scary to think how little reading comprehension some of these posters have :lol :facepalm

[LBJMVP]

Do people really not know what since means?

yes, and this game was absolutely not the worst reffed game since 2002.

not by a longshot :lol

people just that the only way a team loses such a big lead is the refs fault.

spurs shot like shit in the second half.

[KG215]

It was bad. Really bad.

Why are people (raptor, most okc fans) so reluctant to agree? You guys won and nothing is going to change it.

Just as I am saying the Spurs got screwed in Game 6, I also agree that OKC was the better team in the series.


Get your head out of your ass people. You might think clearer.

I'll say it, we got some some controversial calls during the comeback. Some shoulda just been been no-calls, some were the wrong calls (offensive foul that should've been a defensive foul), and some were just really bad calls. But it wasn't 2002 WCF game 6 bad.

[General]

How are there this many Thunder fans? Have I severely underestimated how many people live in Oklahoma?
Seriously:oldlol: So many glory hunters.

[Shepseskaf]

Don't disrespect the 2002 Kings like this. Just don't.

I'm guessing you were about 7 when that game happened. Grow up. This wasn't even in the same ballpark.
:applause:

Some iffy calls, but the Thunder just took the momentum back with stifling defense. It was clear that the Spurs were just tired and couldn't keep up.

Gotta give props to Parker, though. Has anyone ever been quicker in the lane? Amazing.

[LAClipsFan33]

Spurs got jobbed

[Da Hammer]

yes, and this game was absolutely not the worst reffed game since 2002.

not by a longshot :lol

people just that the only way a team loses such a big lead is the refs fault.

spurs shot like shit in the second half.
The only other comparable game that I can think of the top of my head at the moment is that Heat/Mavs game in 2006 in which Wade shot something close to 20 FT's. Was it game 3?

[Da Hammer]

That was me up until this point. I've been in denial that the refs just benifit one team over another and usally justify it by saying that the agressive team gets more calls.

But this was it. This game blew the lid off and changed my whole view on biased reffing in the nba
Yea I used to have a similar mindset but it's hard not to question the league in games like this. It becomes too obvious. It can be WWE style shit sometimes

[T-Time3]

you're wrong my friend.
round 1 game 1 of the knicks v heat is the worst since the lakers v kings g6

[sick_brah07]

How are there this many Thunder fans? Have I severely underestimated how many people live in Oklahoma?


casual fans jump on bandwagons like last year pretty much the whole world was supporting dallas lol... go look on facebook, my whole news feed thunder fans yet 99% of them wouldnt have a clue who the seattle supersonics are...

[IGOTGAME]

I won't watch a Thunder/Celtics Finals. Can find something more interesting to do than watch blowouts.

[LBJMVP]

casual fans jump on bandwagons like last year pretty much the whole world was supporting dallas lol... go look on facebook, my whole news feed thunder fans yet 99% of them wouldnt have a clue who the seattle supersonics are...

thats how my friends are.

im only rooting for the thunder cause my teams didnt make the playoffs (cleveland)

wanna see durant win before lebron.

[Da Hammer]

Duncan just called out the refs without flat out saying they were jobbed

[NumberSix]

Duncan just called out the refs without flat out saying they were jobbed
Really? Where?

[poweredbyoats]

That was me up until this point. I've been in denial that the refs just benifit one team over another and usally justify it by saying that the agressive team gets more calls.

But this was it. This game blew the lid off and changed my whole view on biased reffing in the nba

Same here. Tonight was just too obvious. The refs didn't give the game to OKC. They just shift the probabilities, but tonight was way too much.

[imdaman99]

stfu and watch a typical knicks-heat game.

[Yung D-Will]

"Seems like they got every whistle possible."

-Tim Duncan

[poweredbyoats]

Really? Where?

Duncan post-game interview:

"They got every whistle possible."

He also said other stuff like being outplayed.

[ElPigto]

No way, not even close. There were quite a bit of crappy calls, but overall the Spurs could have still won this game. The better team definitely won.

[shortsoptional]

The only other comparable game that I can think of the top of my head at the moment is that Heat/Mavs game in 2006 in which Wade shot something close to 20 FT's. Was it game 3?

Game 5 he shot 25 ft's.

The same amount as the entire Dallas team.

Ended up being Dal- 25 FT's Mia- 49 FT's

[Da Hammer]

Really? Where?
Some other posters below you posted some of what was said but it was the post game interview with Craig Sager in the locker room. Basically saying that the Thunder were getting every whistle imaginable.

[Da Hammer]

Game 5 he shot 25 ft's.

The same amount as the entire Dallas team.

Ended up being Dal- 25 FT's Mia- 49 FT's
Ah ok thanks. I have done my best to erase every thought of that series. Mavs got screwed so bad there as well

[shortsoptional]

Ah ok thanks. I have done my best to erase every thought of that series. Mavs got screwed so bad there as well

Being from Dallas, I feel your pain.

[Carbine]

What calls are you guys talking about?

The non-call on Leonard getting smacked in the head?

Manu screen?

What else?

I watched the game and never thought anything was out of the ordinary. Spurs lost because they couldn't execute for much of the second half, not because of two or three missed calls.

Didn't Neal flop his ass off vs. Perkins? Why is nobody bringing that up?

[Grey Dawn]

This Hammer guy was posting like 4 whine posts a page in the game thread.

[NumberSix]

Game 5 he shot 25 ft's.

The same amount as the entire Dallas team.

Ended up being Dal- 25 FT's Mia- 49 FT's
Didn't Michael Jordan have a playoff game where he shot over 20 FT's in a single quarter?

[I.R.Beast]

No it wasnt...BS was called on both sides. Tim Dunca got away with serveral illegal screens in the game parker got away with carries adn pushoffs. Steven jackson was given a 3pt foul after westbrook was given a 2pt foul. They called BS on both team n=in that 3th quarter. Spurs choked this game away.

[LBJ_MVP09]

There's no doubt that the Spurs still COULD have won despite the calls. But that does not change the fact that there were atrocious calls against the Spurs. Anytime the Spurs looked like they might hold off the Thunder, BS call. Momentum is everything in basketball people.

[33teeth]

I'm honestly surprised by this, uh, bull...

I wanted the Spurs to win the series. Live near Seattle and really have no reason to EVER want the Thunder to do even a little well and I thought this game was pretty much within the realm of "normal" officiating.

To imply it's even worth mentioning in the same breath as the 2002 Lakers/Kings is just pathetic in my opinion. I simply didn't see it that way.

I guess I'll watch both games again in a few weeks and see how it comes off then. Right now it looks like a bunch of sour grapes from uneducated pre-pubescent faboys.

:durantunimpressed: :durantunimpressed: :durantunimpressed: :durantunimpressed: :durantunimpressed: :durantunimpressed:

[Big#50]

When the hot hand from the Spurs got a tech for looking at the bench I knew the fix was in.
**** the refs. This was hard to watch.

[Yung D-Will]

I know we're not supposed to post from RG But I've never seen such a unanimous large scale poll on that forum.

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[KG215]

What calls are you guys talking about?

The non-call on Leonard getting smacked in the head?

Manu screen?

What else?

I watched the game and never thought anything was out of the ordinary. Spurs lost because they couldn't execute for much of the second half, not because of two or three missed calls.

Didn't Neal flop his ass off vs. Perkins? Why is nobody bringing that up?

This. We got some controversial calls that the hoe team usually gets but nothing too out of the ordinary. What won the game was holding the spurs to below 40% shooting and 36 second half points after shooting the lights out and scoring 63 in the first half.

OKC's defense in the first half was non-existent and that's putting it nicely. They finally pulled their heads out in the second half and defended the way they did in games 3-5, and that's what got them back in the game.

[Tenchi Ryu]

I know we're not supposed to post from RG But I've never seen such a unanimous large scale poll on that forum.

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What makes this so eye popping is that OKC isn't really a hated them like Miami or the Clippers, so for it to be that one sided in the results tells you it ain't just hating, multiple people saw the same thing.

[Big#50]

This. We got some controversial calls that the hoe team usually gets but nothing too out of the ordinary. What won the game was holding the spurs to below 40% shooting and 36 second half points after shooting the lights out and scoring 63 in the first half.

OKC's defense in the first half was non-existent and that's putting it nicely. They finally pulled their heads out in the second half and defended the way they did in games 3-5, and that's what got them back in the game.
No. Just no. The refs.

[shortsoptional]

Not a fan of either team, but the refs definitely influenced that game.

I still think OKC is the better team, but the refs allowed OKC back in to the game in the third quarter. There was a sequence of letting OKC be very physical with SA, while not allowing SA to be physical back.

The tech on Jackson, the hit on Leonard, and then another offensive foul on Jackson are just three that standout. But it was borderline comical at one point.

That didn't lose SA the game, but it got OKC right back in it. And that changed the momentum.

[Tenchi Ryu]

This. We got some controversial calls that the hoe team usually gets but nothing too out of the ordinary. What won the game was holding the spurs to below 40% shooting and 36 second half points after shooting the lights out and scoring 63 in the first half.

OKC's defense in the first half was non-existent and that's putting it nicely. They finally pulled their heads out in the second half and defended the way they did in games 3-5, and that's what got them back in the game.
Its easy to say that being a fan of the team of who's being accused. Its true that OKC played great D, but what killed SA was that they didn't get the opportunity to play that same defense. OKC would hold SA off, and when SA would try to defend and get the ball back, a whistle would be heard. And no matter how much someone wants to say calls don't matter, they do. They can completely change the pace of the game, which they did. Jackson was about to go ham, but those techs threw him completely off rhythm. Next thing you know, you see more charging and offensive fouls called. You now have a SA team who's hesitating on offense.

And lets not act like OKC defense was any cleaner than SA's, westbrook wacking TP on the head is one of the examples. Its a lot easier to lower the FG% when you're allowed to play physical. There was a 5 min stretch where OKC was beating the shit outta SA.

[bdreason]

The league couldn't risk a Spurs v Celtics Finals.















Just kidding, I don't think it was fixed. Thunder just brought more energy in the 2nd half, and it paid off in the end.

[WeGetRing2012]

2008 Finals Game 2.

[Da Hammer]

Not a fan of either team, but the refs definitely influenced that game.

I still think OKC is the better team, but the refs allowed OKC back in to the game in the third quarter. There was a sequence of letting OKC be very physical with SA, while not allowing SA to be physical back.

The tech on Jackson, the hit on Leonard, and then another offensive foul on Jackson are just three that standout. But it was borderline comical at one point.

That didn't lose SA the game, but it got OKC right back in it. And that changed the momentum.
Add the and 1 foul call on Parker that Westbrook got when Parker literally didnt touch him. And Perkins pushing Jackson away from Durant that lead to a open 3. Then like you pointed out OKC was allowed to be aggressive and Spurs were being called for touch fouls. It was just so bad. I just hate injustices. I couldnt give a damn about the Spurs in fact i dislike them lol cause they can be some floppin bitches but man just not cool what happened today.

[NBA4EVER]

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[Bernie Nips]

Miami/Celtics Game 2 was worse than this.

But this was pretty bad.

[Big#50]

NBA has been fixed since MJ retired.

[Carbine]

Add the and 1 foul call on Parker that Westbrook got when Parker literally didnt touch him. And Perkins pushing Jackson away from Durant that lead to a open 3. Then like you pointed out OKC was allowed to be aggressive and Spurs were being called for touch fouls. It was just so bad. I just hate injustices. I couldnt give a damn about the Spurs in fact i dislike them lol cause they can be some floppin bitches but man just not cool what happened today.

Parker didn't seem to argue the call. Pop didn't argue the call on Parker.

...and the tech on SJack was deserved. You can't taunt people these days. He made a three, and looked at Mo Cheeks for like 5 seconds and probably said something to him. Whether you agree with the rule, that's a different thing, but under the current rules you can't taunt people.

Touch fouls? Like what? You say that and don't give any specific play.

The Durant sweep through? That was a foul.

Being held off the ball? That's a foul.

[Velocirap31]

Stephen Jackson's tech was justified. Several players got techs this year for taunting benches after made shots, especially if they say something.

[Tenchi Ryu]

Stephen Jackson's tech was justified. Several players got techs this year for taunting benches after made shots, especially if they say something.
Harden did the EXACT same thing twice,once on that heavily contested lay-up and the other on the 3 pointer, and didn't get called. If you're gonna call it, be fair with it.

[shortsoptional]

...and the tech on SJack was deserved. You can't taunt people these days. He made a three, and looked at Mo Cheeks for like 5 seconds and probably said something to him. Whether you agree with the rule, that's a different thing, but under the current rules you can't taunt people.

Just to touch on that...I hate how an entire bench can scream at the top of their lungs as you shoot a three from the corner of an opponents bench, but you're not allowed to look back at them after you drain a three cause that's unsportsmanlike.

[Droid101]

I don't know man. The Spurs lived all season on setting illegal screens. And now they want to complain about "touch fouls?"

Okay.

[Tenchi Ryu]

As expected, this topic is being discussed on First Take. What I didn't even realize was that 2 of the biggest calls took away 6 points from the Spurs. That automatically puts SA at 105 compared to 99, and makes the scenario a lot more interesting.

[Rekindled]

i dont think its fixed, its just kennedy is a terrible ref

[Teanett]

it was terrible.

-the harden flop
-duncan offensive foul
-stephen jackson tech
-manu offensive foul (3 point play)
-kawhi leonard gets smacked in the head

these 5 just from off top of my head....:wtf:

[Tenchi Ryu]

it was terrible.

-the harden flop
-duncan offensive foul
-stephen jackson tech
-manu offensive foul (3 point play)
-kawhi leonard gets smacked in the head

these 5 just from off top of my head....:wtf:
Yea, those were off the top of my head too. Now OKC did their job and finished the kill like they were suppose to, but to say Refs had nothing to do with it....come on now. Its easy to drop your opponents FG% when you can get away with more than accepted physical play.

But what people are forgetting is that, while OKC defended SPURS well, when SA tried to also defend, they weren't allowed to cause of the constant whistles. Duncan even said this. Kinda hard to keep the lead you have from decreasing when players keep getting sent to the line, which OKC got 31 to Spur's 18 btw.

[Da Hammer]

As expected, this topic is being discussed on First Take. What I didn't even realize was that 2 of the biggest calls took away 6 points from the Spurs. That automatically puts SA at 105 compared to 99, and makes the scenario a lot more interesting.
You know I find it funny when people say well "the refs didn't cause the spurs to blow a 18 point lead". Like seriously thats what started it. Bad calls on both sides of the ball that stopped the spurs from having the same rhythm they had in the first half. And yea that's crazy how just 2 calls cost them 6 points and people say we are complaining :facepalm

[iggy>]

U forgot spurs vs suns game 3 2007.

SA fans crying about calls when they were basically handed a title that year :lol

[Rab]

Not a fan of either team, but the refs definitely influenced that game.

I still think OKC is the better team, but the refs allowed OKC back in to the game in the third quarter. There was a sequence of letting OKC be very physical with SA, while not allowing SA to be physical back.

The tech on Jackson, the hit on Leonard, and then another offensive foul on Jackson are just three that standout. But it was borderline comical at one point.

That didn't lose SA the game, but it got OKC right back in it. And that changed the momentum.
I'm sorry, but this sounds so similar to what people said about the Spurs in their championship days. The Thunder brought the energy in the second half and were the more aggresive team. Those teams tend to get the benefit of the whistle. That's just how it goes.