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hawkfan
06-15-2012, 04:56 PM
Is Russell Westbrook the best point guard in the NBA?

I say yes.

Cowboy Thunder
06-15-2012, 04:58 PM
toastin in a roll thread right hurrr

talkingconch
06-15-2012, 04:58 PM
Nope

Cowboy Thunder
06-15-2012, 04:59 PM
yo shawty, yo swag be supa dupa fly doe like to da ham

NumberSix
06-15-2012, 04:59 PM
He's the best player who is listed at the point guard position. He is not the best point guard though.

Rnbizzle
06-15-2012, 04:59 PM
Not even close, but he's still a great player.

b0bab0i
06-15-2012, 05:01 PM
Is Russell Westbrook the best point guard in the NBA?

I say yes.
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dunksby
06-15-2012, 05:02 PM
He is :bowdown:

MetsPackers
06-15-2012, 05:04 PM
Absolutely. Easily a top 10 point guard all time, and will probably move into the top 3 if not #1 by the end of his career

qrich
06-15-2012, 05:06 PM
:oldlol: :roll: :oldlol:


:roll: :oldlol: :roll:



:oldlol: :roll: :oldlol:

Cowboy Thunder
06-15-2012, 05:08 PM
Absolutely. Easily a top 10 point guard all time, and will probably move into the top 3 if not #1 by the end of his career

Goatbrook:bowdown:

LosBulls
06-15-2012, 05:14 PM
Hes not even the best Derrick Rose.

Math2
06-15-2012, 05:24 PM
lol no

liquidrage
06-15-2012, 05:28 PM
No one ever complained about Russ taking too many shots when Jeff Green was around.

Maybe Nofaultula should run harder around some screens or maybe gain 15lbs so he can take a simple entry pass without it being a TO from his guy blasting right through him.

SuperPippen
06-15-2012, 05:47 PM
In a word, no.

In two words, **** no.

In five words, hell to the **** no.

HorryIsMyMVP
06-15-2012, 05:50 PM
lol. Westbrick.

CavaliersFTW
06-15-2012, 06:08 PM
Goatbrick:bowdown:
fixed :lol

Cowboy Thunder
06-15-2012, 06:09 PM
Best 3rd quarter player in the world

Goatquarter3brook

Fiasco
06-15-2012, 06:17 PM
In a word, no.

In two words, **** no.

In five words, hell to the **** no.

Haha, my thoughts precisely.

I was watching the game last night and there were two OKC fans with signs that said "BRICK CITY" on them, and they were shown on TV

No joke, I started laughing my ass off on the floor because the poor guys probably don't know what everyone calls Russell (Westbrick)

imdaman99
06-15-2012, 06:30 PM
Goatbrook is easily the best point guard in the league. the best defensive pg and no one can stay in front of him :bowdown:

KokeAyne
06-15-2012, 06:34 PM
Hes the best at brickin pull up Js early in the shot clock

HorryIsMyMVP
06-15-2012, 06:35 PM
Hes the best at brickin pull up Js early in the shot clock
:applause:

ShaqAttack3234
06-15-2012, 06:38 PM
Chris Paul, no doubt about it. Paul was the 3rd best player this season behind the clear 1-2 of Lebron and Durant.

StateOfMind12
06-15-2012, 06:42 PM
I will let you know when the Finals are over. Westbrook is too bipolar/knee-jerk type of player to talk about and rank right now.

As of right now, I do believe Chris Paul is the best PG in the NBA and better than Westbrook but I'm more than positive had you asked this question before Game 1, you would be getting a lot of yes instead of no.

JellyBean
06-15-2012, 07:02 PM
Pretty darn close. If he aint the best, he is a close to whoever people put #1

HorryIsMyMVP
06-15-2012, 07:24 PM
I will let you know when the Finals are over. Westbrook is too bipolar/knee-jerk type of player to talk about and rank right now.

As of right now, I do believe Chris Paul is the best PG in the NBA and better than Westbrook but I'm more than positive had you asked this question before Game 1, you would be getting a lot of yes instead of no.
I've never said he was good. In fact after game 1 I said "yeah he had a fluke game but he won't get 11 assists in game 2 and people are going to be mad when he starts missing".

04mzwach
06-15-2012, 07:32 PM
Imagine if Deron Williams was the PG on the Thunder. Shit would be ridiculous. :lol Durant would average even more points most likely. Well, I shouldn't say that because then they'd have a real PG.

KokeAyne
06-15-2012, 07:41 PM
Rondo, Rose, Paul and Deron are all better than him hands down.

HorryIsMyMVP
06-15-2012, 07:47 PM
Rondo, Rose, Paul and Deron are all better than him hands down.
I'd rather have a motivated Steve Nash then Westbrick as well.

Celtic_Pride
06-15-2012, 07:47 PM
Well he is not even the best Point Guard on his team

Harden is better at running the point!

HorryIsMyMVP
06-15-2012, 07:50 PM
Well he is not even the best Point Guard on his team

Harden is better at running the point!
I honestly wonder why they haven't just done that? Harden, Thabo, Durant, Ibaka and Perkins. That seems like their best line up. Harden is the best passer on the team. He is quick and smart. Bigger and better at defense. :confusedshrug:

OKCThunderUP
06-15-2012, 11:08 PM
Hes not even the best Derrick Rose.

lol do Bulls fans still think Rose is better than Westbrook? That's cute.

imdaman99
06-15-2012, 11:13 PM
lol do Bulls fans still think Rose is better than Westbrook? That's cute.
westbrooks 1 knee is better than 2 derrick rose knees :rockon:

blacknapalm
06-15-2012, 11:17 PM
I honestly wonder why they haven't just done that? Harden, Thabo, Durant, Ibaka and Perkins. That seems like their best line up. Harden is the best passer on the team. He is quick and smart. Bigger and better at defense. :confusedshrug:

having perkins in there has been detrimental to OKC. perkins is involved in some of the worst team +/- segments in the game. the actual lineup that has helped OKC in both games consistently has been durant, wb, harden, collison and fisher. for whatever reason, OKC has been playing better with collison on the floor as opposed to ibaka.

ya, fisher isn't good but he forces bosh out on the perimeter. it helps spread the floor so they can attack. chalmers, wade and lebron have their hands full with OKC's big three. having fisher in there is more about matchups and schemes.

this is not a series for perkins and brooks needs to see that sooner than later

LosBulls
06-15-2012, 11:20 PM
lol do Bulls fans still think Rose is better than Westbrook? That's cute.
And you would be on Rose's dick right now if he were on your team. LMAO.

imdaman99
06-15-2012, 11:24 PM
And you would be on Rose's dick right now if he were on your team. LMAO.
why would he be, when he realizes rose is out for the year? :kobe:

doesnt make sense bro

04mzwach
06-15-2012, 11:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXtXXWpI1BU&feature=g-u-u ha!

lilgodfather1
06-16-2012, 12:08 AM
Westbrook is certainly the best player at the 1 in this series. In the league? Well that goes to CP3 baby. A top 10 player though.

The top 10 players in the NBA 11/12

LeBron
Durant
Kobe
Paul
Dwight
Dirk
Westbrook
Melo
Wade
Rondo

SuperPippen
06-16-2012, 01:34 AM
lol do Bulls fans still think Rose is better than Westbrook? That's cute.

:lol Are there really Thunder fans who think Westbrook has ever been better than Rose? How adorable.

tikay0
06-16-2012, 01:35 AM
And you would be on Rose's dick right now if he were on your team. LMAO.

Exactly.

StateOfMind12
06-16-2012, 01:45 AM
I would say Westbrook is better than Rose just because Rose is injured right now and will be out for next season too. I think if Rose is healthy though the comparison is not close at all and Rose blows him out of the water.

I honestly think Westbrook would be better off in Chicago and Rose would be better off for OKC. Both teams would improve in my opinion, definitely for OKC and possibly for Chicago. Westbrook would get to shine as the man in Chicago and him taking away a shot from someone on the Bulls wouldn't be a big deal at all since the Bulls have a team filled with adept offensive players aside from Rose.

OKCThunderUP
06-16-2012, 03:31 AM
:lol Are there really Thunder fans who think Westbrook has ever been better than Rose? How adorable.

What does Rose do better? WB has a better % in the paint and has a legit jump shot. DRose shot what, 35% from 10+ feet out this year? While Westbrook was #5 in FG% from 15-24 feet.

Westbrook is better. Sorry to break it to you bulls fans but the former MVP is not better anymore. Last year? Definitely. This year? NO way in hell.

hawkfan
06-16-2012, 03:43 AM
Westbrook is the best point guard of the moment, as of right now, because you have to judge him from where he was at the start of the series against San Antonio and how he has improved.

It is colossal how much improvement he has made. Just phenomenal.

He is the most athletic point guard in the NBA.
He has become an outstanding quarterback at the point guard position.
He is the best rebounder at the point guard, even better than Rondo (which is saying a lot).
He is a phenomenal scorer.
He is an outstanding defensive player.
He has toughness and he is an excellent leader.
He knows how to push the tempo and when to defer to Durant, Harden, even Ibaka, Sefolosha, Perkins, Collison, Fisher.
He is unselfish and does whatever his team needs to do to win.

Go Getter
06-16-2012, 03:45 AM
PEOPLE FORGET THAT ROSE SHOT A HIGHER PERCENTAGE IN HIS FIRST TWO SEASONS THAN RW WILL EVER SHOOT FOR A YEAR.

If he gets some help and refrained from playing hero ball like he past two seasons his shooting percentage will be significantly higher that Westbrooks.

Go Getter
06-16-2012, 03:47 AM
Westbrook is the best point guard of the moment, as of right now, because you have to judge him from where he was at the start of the series against San Antonio and how he has improved.

It is colossal how much improvement he has made. Just phenomenal.

He is the most athletic point guard in the NBA.
He has become an outstanding quarterback at the point guard position.
He is the best rebounder at the point guard, even better than Rondo (which is saying a lot).
He is a phenomenal scorer.
He is an outstanding defensive player.
He has toughness and he is an excellent leader.
He knows how to push the tempo and when to defer to Durant, Harden, even Ibaka, Sefolosha, Perkins, Collison, Fisher.
He is unselfish and does whatever his team needs to do to win.
You know nothing about ball. It's clear that he is a subpar QB, he passes only out of necessity when he sees he can't make a shot, and you could hear Brooks screaming pass the ball to him last game, haha.

KokeAyne
06-16-2012, 03:49 AM
Rondo literally does everything better than Westbrick, except the mid range J. But even that Westbrick can go on a brickin' spree with no regard of the shot clock or anyone else that is open.

Westbrick is a decent combo guard but I just do not understand how people are swingin' so hard off his nuts.

andgar923
06-16-2012, 03:53 AM
This thread is a joke.

Westbrook is one of the worst PG in the league.

He makes Iverson look like Stockton.

Rolando
06-16-2012, 05:13 AM
He's a combo.

2012 Combo Guard:
1. Russel Westbrook
2. Derrick Rose (injuries)
3. Brandon Jennings

xtn5021
06-16-2012, 05:24 AM
I think I'd take Rondo over Westbrook.

Cali Syndicate
06-16-2012, 05:30 AM
I think I'd take Rondo over Westbrook.

Me too.

D Will as well.

CP3? Yes.

xtn5021
06-16-2012, 05:40 AM
Me too.

D Will as well.

CP3? Yes.

To be fair though,

Westbrook is really a SG that was put into the PG position.

Cali Syndicate
06-16-2012, 05:47 AM
To be fair though,

Westbrook is really a SG that was put into the PG position.

He's still a top 5 PG for me. I'd just rather take those 3 over him.

imdaman99
06-16-2012, 08:26 AM
This thread is a joke.

Westbrook is one of the worst PG in the league.

He makes Iverson look like Stockton.
cool story bro, westbrook will have more championships than both them combined.

imdaman99
06-16-2012, 08:27 AM
cool story bro, westbrook will have more championships than both them combined.
when you're great, it brings the haters out :bowdown:

plus westbrook is better than rose, get over it bulls fans

JtotheIzzo
06-16-2012, 08:32 AM
Is Russell Westbrook the best point guard in the NBA?

I say yes.

He has the highest ceiling, but he is not nuanced int he position, still has the mentality of a first option shooter, and still plays out of control at times.

Top ten in the league right now, but can go higher, and if OKC starts piling up trophies, history may regard him with Pippenesque stature.

liquidrage
06-16-2012, 12:24 PM
Well he is not even the best Point Guard on his team

Harden is better at running the point!

That's odd since the stats don't show that.

Westbrook has 3x the assist rate of Harden and the same TO rate.

The Harden >> Westbrook at the point is proof that GOATbrook is a lightning rod unfairly critisized.

EoJ
06-16-2012, 01:19 PM
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StateOfMind12
06-16-2012, 03:36 PM
http://i.minus.com/ip7tCn1KGSMPH.gif
:roll: Too accurate.

ihoopallday
06-16-2012, 04:04 PM
http://i.minus.com/ip7tCn1KGSMPH.gif

Lmao one of my favorite fresh prince episode.

tikay0
06-16-2012, 05:06 PM
Lmao at this thread. Put rose on the thunder, and people are calling him the greatest pg since magic. With the offensive threats westbrook has, his numbers should be out of this world. I think its fair how the media criticizes him. He plays dumb basketball, while also having two other scoring sensations. Please put this westbrook thread to rest.

lbj23clutch
06-16-2012, 05:45 PM
It's disgusting how disrespected Westbrook is on this board. He's been a top 6-8 player all year. I cannot wait to see these haters eat their words once Westbrook hits his prime.

Mach_3
06-16-2012, 07:16 PM
Westbrook is the best point guard of the moment, as of right now, because you have to judge him from where he was at the start of the series against San Antonio and how he has improved.

It is colossal how much improvement he has made. Just phenomenal.

He is the most athletic point guard in the NBA.
He has become an outstanding quarterback at the point guard position.
He is the best rebounder at the point guard, even better than Rondo (which is saying a lot).
He is a phenomenal scorer.
He is an outstanding defensive player.
He has toughness and he is an excellent leader.
He knows how to push the tempo and when to defer to Durant, Harden, even Ibaka, Sefolosha, Perkins, Collison, Fisher.
He is unselfish and does whatever his team needs to do to win.

:biggums:

Tenchi Ryu
06-16-2012, 07:18 PM
when you're great, it brings the haters out :bowdown:

plus westbrook is better than rose, get over it bulls fans
Talk about being a hypocrite.

Rose is just better, you need to just except it man.

tikay0
06-16-2012, 07:41 PM
Notice how this year there were absolutely no derrick rose vs threads like years before. Somehow after he gets hurt, and is unable to do anything in the playoffs, there's a bunch of "is player x, the best pg in the league? Smh at basketball novices.

andgar923
06-16-2012, 07:54 PM
He's a TERRIBLE Pg, people need to get over it.

I mean... do people even know what a PG is and what they're role and responsibilities are supposed to be?

Even Iverson wasn't close to being this bad.

Fiasco
06-16-2012, 07:55 PM
I feel my brain deteriorating.

liquidrage
06-16-2012, 07:57 PM
http://i.minus.com/ip7tCn1KGSMPH.gif


That's pretty accurate because it's amazing how stick man doesn't get any blame even when he's standing flat footed and his defender is owning him and he can't even accept an entry pass Westbrook is trying to throw him.

hkfosho
06-16-2012, 07:58 PM
Uh no. Derrick rose is the best pg in the nba when hes healthy. Get this silly thread outta here:oldlol:

SpaceJammeR
06-16-2012, 09:08 PM
Rondo is the best point guard IMO. He does what he's supposed to at his position and puts up a decent amount of points. along with getting a lot of boards and dimes a game. He makes his team a lot better.

imdaman99
06-16-2012, 09:39 PM
Rondo is the best point guard IMO. He does what he's supposed to at his position and puts up a decent amount of points. along with getting a lot of boards and dimes a game. He makes his team a lot better.
Really? he made paul pierce and ray allen better? if anything, those guys are gonna be good no matter who their pg is. i dont recall anyone outside of the big 3 being any good. brandon bass? sure he can hit a jumper.

as far as im concerned, westbrook hasnt made anyone worse. which is not the same as carlos boozer going to a better team and playing worse than he did in utah. oh shit i forget, rondo made kendrick perkins an all-star and all westbrook has done is made him worse :bowdown:

the only pg that is guaranteed to make their teammates better is cp3. westbrook hasnt hindered durant, harden, ibaka, perkins, collison any. those guys are what they are. fck outa here with that rondo makes his teammates better.

westbrook is the last PG standing :lol haters gonna hate :D

nathanjizzle
06-16-2012, 10:14 PM
russell westbrook is good, but hes like a flat version of derrick rose. kind of like pop or "soda" that has been left out for a while, it taste good, but not as great as if it was freshly opened.

Celtic_Pride
06-16-2012, 10:16 PM
oh shit i forget, rondo made kendrick perkins an all-star and all westbrook has done is made him worse :bowdown:

Perkins averaged 10 ppg with Rondo and 5 ppg with Westbrook! You were right about the 2nd part



the only pg that is guaranteed to make their teammates better is cp3.


Griffin had better number w/o CP3

Butler averaged his career worst playing with CP3

Celtics Big 3 had their best shooting seasons (FG%) during last few years because Rondo was finding them open almost everytime

When it comes to making-teammates-better logic, Rondo is second only to Nash!

SyRyanYang
06-16-2012, 10:23 PM
I've never said he was good. In fact after game 1 I said "yeah he had a fluke game but he won't get 11 assists in game 2 and people are going to be mad when he starts missing".
No one give a damn about what you think. Gtfo

Mach_3
06-16-2012, 10:24 PM
Perkins averaged 10 ppg with Rondo and 5 ppg with Westbrook! You were right about the 2nd part




Griffin had better number w/o CP3

Butler averaged his career worst playing with CP3

Celtics Big 3 had their best shooting seasons (FG%) during last few years because Rondo was finding them open almost everytime

When it comes to making-teammates-better logic, Rondo is second only to Nash!

This. Hell is that other fool talking about :hammerhead: :hammerhead: :hammerhead:

theaussieguy
06-16-2012, 10:35 PM
It's disgusting how disrespected Westbrook is on this board. He's been a top 6-8 player all year. I cannot wait to see these haters eat their words once Westbrook hits his prime.

notsureifsrs everyones been saying he is a terrific player, but not a very good PG which is totally correct.

What more do u want? Give praise where its due and its not due when he is running the point.

imdaman99
06-16-2012, 10:39 PM
This. Hell is that other fool talking about :hammerhead: :hammerhead: :hammerhead:
we get it, you nor that other celtic fool dont like goatbrook. all you guys keep saying the same shit in every westbrook thread. keep repeating yourself :applause: remind me where rondo is again? is his golf game any good?

westbrook gonna have a ring soon :D

Bigsmoke
06-16-2012, 11:42 PM
I would say Westbrook is better than Rose just because Rose is injured right now and will be out for next season too. I think if Rose is healthy though the comparison is not close at all and Rose blows him out of the water.

I honestly think Westbrook would be better off in Chicago and Rose would be better off for OKC. Both teams would improve in my opinion, definitely for OKC and possibly for Chicago. Westbrook would get to shine as the man in Chicago and him taking away a shot from someone on the Bulls wouldn't be a big deal at all since the Bulls have a team filled with adept offensive players aside from Rose.

Westbrook is only better than Rose at defense and rebounding while the Bulls ARE the best defensive and rebounding team in the NBA. :biggums:

Bigsmoke
06-16-2012, 11:50 PM
Perkins averaged 10 ppg with Rondo and 5 ppg with Westbrook! You were right about the 2nd part




Griffin had better number w/o CP3

Butler averaged his career worst playing with CP3

Celtics Big 3 had their best shooting seasons (FG%) during last few years because Rondo was finding them open almost everytime

When it comes to making-teammates-better logic, Rondo is second only to Nash!

such an unbiased post we got here.

you did a good job leaving out Blake's FG% about it increasing from 50% to nearly 55% but bring the Celtics's Big 3 FG%s

We all know Caron Butler is done since after that injury. Blame Rondo for jermaine O'neal's stuggles while you are at it. :confusedshrug:

Bigsmoke
06-16-2012, 11:55 PM
just to answer the OP's question.

the best PG in the NBA is Chris Paul.

andgar923
06-17-2012, 12:56 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0_CeUzud_g

Is he gonna be proven wrong tho?

if the OKC win the title, it'll be because of Durant having to cover up for Westbrook.

TeamLAC
06-17-2012, 02:37 AM
Opinions are opinions, people. Keep that in mind... Don't be offended if someone has an opinion opposing yours. :facepalm

Anyway I'd still take CP3, Rose, and Rondo over Westbrook.

Perry Jones III
07-12-2012, 03:19 PM
Westbrook shitin on these ******

tikay0
07-12-2012, 03:22 PM
Goatbrook is easily the best point guard in the league. the best defensive pg and no one can stay in front of him :bowdown:

That's why Sefolosha had to guard Parker. :oldlol:

Mr Exlax
07-12-2012, 03:23 PM
No way in hell is he the best traditional PG in the NBA, but he is the best basketball player in the NBA at the PG position. Anybody disagree with that? This is ISH of course there is lmao!

tikay0
07-12-2012, 03:38 PM
Westbrook averaged 13 PPG against the Heat last year, with KEVIN DURANT on his team. Derrick Rose would shit on the Heat with Kevin Durant on his team.

WBynumToTheHole
07-12-2012, 03:54 PM
he's probably my favorite one.

when his midrange stop and pop shot is falling, and his drives are going in, he may well be the best.

he showed he can take over games offensively in game 4. i think its a new level for him.

durant is still the main option on that team but they can work together pretty well.

not sure if harden is really the 3rd peice on that team, but he's a great player and i hope he has a great next year.

WBynumToTheHole
07-12-2012, 03:56 PM
not sure why the thunder are not in the howard talks. harden, maynor, ibaka, seem like good pieces. westbrook... cant really give him up but theres enough talent on the team to be in the talks.

Mavsfan31
07-12-2012, 06:51 PM
:oldlol: :lol :lol :lol :roll: :oldlol: :durantunimpressed: :coleman: :biggums: :crazysam:

The Choken One
07-12-2012, 06:55 PM
I'd take... CP3, DWill & Kyrie over Westbrook.

Westbrook is a better player than Kyie, but I think, and especially in this upcoming season, Kyie will be a better PG.

I considered Rose & Rondo...but Rose is a health risk now & Rondo's shot strays me away from him.

So..I'll say 3rd/4th best.

JustinJDW
07-12-2012, 06:56 PM
Nope.

KG215
07-12-2012, 07:01 PM
not sure why the thunder are not in the howard talks. harden, maynor, ibaka, seem like good pieces. westbrook... cant really give him up but theres enough talent on the team to be in the talks.

We'd more than likely offer Harden, Ibaka, fillers and picks for Howard before Westbrook and whoever else.

DurantFor40
07-12-2012, 07:04 PM
No question about it.


What he does for the team on AND off the court can not be matched by any other PG in the league.

Hardest working athlete ever, most durable athlete ever.

:applause:

The Choken One
07-12-2012, 07:06 PM
No question about it.


What he does for the team on AND off the court can not be matched by any other PG in the league.

Hardest working athlete ever, most durable athlete ever.

:applause:
You're up there with the top-tier Heat/Laker trolls.

NJW1247
07-12-2012, 07:16 PM
You're up there with the top-tier Heat/Laker trolls.


No he's not, his trolling is way too blatant.

Mach_3
07-12-2012, 07:25 PM
we get it, you nor that other celtic fool dont like goatbrook. all you guys keep saying the same shit in every westbrook thread. keep repeating yourself :applause: remind me where rondo is again? is his golf game any good?

westbrook gonna have a ring soon :D

Rondo's already got a ring :D

KG215
07-12-2012, 07:27 PM
You're up there with the top-tier Heat/Laker trolls.

Yeah, no...he's worse.

DurantFor40
07-12-2012, 07:28 PM
Rondo's already got a ring :D
As the fifth wheel and a clear liability :D