Parents Track Down Daughter's Pimp and Kill Him

[Clippersfan86]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/06/parents-accused-of-killing-daughters-pimp-in-san-francisco.html

:applause: :applause: :bowdown: . This is what more parents should be doing. Apparently the couple went to the police multiple times for help and were not taken seriously. Street justice. Too bad the courts have no mercy for justified vigilante things like this. Worst part is the pimp's scumbag father tries to defend him saying he didn't deserve to die etc. **** that criminal, he got what he deserved.

[Qwyjibo]

His father is right, he didn't deserve to die. These parents were completely wrong in what they did. This is just murder, not vigilante justice.

[Knicks101]

How did he get what he deserved? She made her own choices, and she's just as much of a criminal as he was.

Asian Anchor would definitely get it.

[CelticBaller]

Yup, parents should be running around killing pimps :applause:

[Clippersfan86]

His father is right, he didn't deserve to die. These parents were completely wrong in what they did. This is just murder, not vigilante justice.

I just ask myself if I was the parents if I could see myself doing the same and the answer is yes. I can understand this point if she WASN'T a minor but she IS. He had other minors he was pimping too. Fu** that guy... hope he enjoys burning in hell.

[Qwyjibo]

Asian Anchor would definitely get it.
Went back to actually watch the video and yes, I would do filthy things to several of her orifices.

[macmac]

I just ask myself if I was the parents if I could see myself doing the same and the answer is yes. I can understand this point if she WASN'T a minor but she IS. He had other minors he was pimping too. Fu** that guy... hope he enjoys burning in hell.

So you believe in the concept of Hell but you don't believe in retribution and turning the other cheek, which one is it kid?

[Clippersfan86]

For any of you guys who have grown up in rough areas you'd know that pimps are recruiters. It isn't like the girl went to the pimp and volunteered. He probably saw her and talked up how great it was and talked like a salesman. That's how most pimps manipulate and get minors. Then they get hooked by the money and usually are controlled with drugs (usually forced on them).

We don't know enough about the girl or the parents to put an equal level of blame on them as the pimp. The fact is the guy was pimping multiple minors and is the party that deserves the most blame. I have zero pity for a guy dying who was pimping multiple kids. As I said.. fu** him.

[Kblaze8855]

She was 17...left home a year earlier on her own. And was appearing in escort service ads? Pimping is not slavery. Unless he had her ****ing with a gun to her head he didnt deserve to die.

[Kblaze8855]

For any of you guys who have grown up in rough areas you'd know that pimps are recruiters. It isn't like the girl went to the pimp and volunteered.


You...think that doesnt happen?

You really believe that?

[Clippersfan86]

So you believe in the concept of Hell but you don't believe in retribution and turning the other cheek, which one is it kid?

That's ignorant. I believe in hell.... so that means I also can't have a vengeful or vindictive side? I'm far from a finished product and will never be one. ANY parent in this situation would be thinking revenge, most just wouldn't have the guts to go through with it.

You think people hold back because of morality? Nope. They hold back because they fear the consequences. Did you read the story from the other day about the molester beaten to death? This father's friend was TRYING to molest his little daughter and the father beat the man to death. No arrest, no incoming charges, closed case.

Wish this was Texas :pimp: .

[Knicks101]

Now they will probably go to jail, their daughter is still a whore and they have three other kids who are now parentless. Definitely was the right thing to do because that evil pimp is dead. :applause:

[Clippersfan86]

You...think that doesnt happen?

You really believe that?

I grew up in Los Angeles... in grouphomes, projects and homeless shelters. I was a criminal justice major and worked for casino security in Vegas where we had weeks of training in regards to pimps and prostitutes. I'm pretty confident about this.

I never said girls never go looking for pimps. I said pimps are recruiters. Most of the times pimps scout schools, specific streets, clubs and sell themselves to girls. Not to mention even if she did leave home early and was rebellious pimps use intimidation and drug control 90+ percent of the time. You make it sound like she could of simply said no or walked away when almost every time that is NOT the case.

[Clippersfan86]

I'm now scared of Clippersfan

I'm sure you're mocking me but this is something I'm passionate about. I grew up around it. I watched friends go into prostitution and have watched them try to get out... and end up missing never to be found again. Or watch them become hardcore tweakers because of the drug control pimps use.

Pimps usually start off as friends who give these girls money... then start asking for "favors". Before a girl knows it they are prostituting themselves without even realizing it because the pimp was charming... or nice to them. These are vulnerable, confused and ignorant girls.

As I said... if this was a 25 year old adult deciding on this it's whatever. When it comes to targeting minors to pimp though it's MUCH more serious.

[Kblaze8855]

You didnt say they dont go looking...but you sure as hell implied she didnt as if you have any information about it. And the idea that someone cant avoid being a whore is laughable to me. What do you think keeps the other hundred million women who need money from getting pimped out?

You grew up in LA. I grew up in chicago and later what white people would call bad areas of the south. Ive seen these women. I know some. My uncle calls one nothing but "Headhunter". Been walking the streets around here since the 80s.

There have been people I guess you could call her pimp...but really...shes just that way. Doesnt care. Many are.

There are hookers all over the world who arent forced to do anything and are perfectly happy to admit they dont even feel they are doing anything wrong.

I can imagine that a parent would feel their daughter was forced to do it....but I dont know anything about this woman.

I know many arent forced to do anything and would walk the streets with no pimp around.

It happens way too often to just assume dude turned her out. She was a 17 year old runaway. You dont think she shows signs of...issues?

[longtime lurker]

I watched the video just to go back and check that Asian anchor. Good lord!

:lebronamazed:

[Clippersfan86]

You didnt say they dont go looking...but you sure as hell implied she didnt as if you have any information about it. And the idea that someone cant avoid being a whore is laughable to me. What do you think keeps the other hundred million women who need money from getting pimped out?

You grew up in LA. I grew up in chicago and later what white people would call bad areas of the south. Ive seen these women. I know some. My uncle calls one nothing but "Headhunter". Been walking the streets around here since the 80s.

There have been people I guess you could call her pimp...but really...shes just that way. Doesnt care. Many are.

There are hookers all over the world who arent forced to do anything and are perfectly happy to admit they dont even feel they are doing anything wrong.

I can imagine that a parent would feel their daughter was forced to do it....but I dont know anything about this woman.

I know many arent forced to do anything and would walk the streets with no pimp around.

It happens way too often to just assume dude turned her out. She was a 17 year old runaway. You dont think she shows signs of...issues?

Again... none of this matters. Of course the girl had pre-existing problems. Doesn't change the fact that more cases of prostitution are either forced prostitution or manipulation. Especially among minors where there is far less free will involved. Obviously there is no way to tell EXACTLY how much is free will vs forced but the FBI has come to the conclusion that forced prostitution is far more prevalent among minors.

Chances are better that she was forced or intimidated into prostitution than her looking for this pimp and volunteering.

[macmac]

This is the way I see it, pimpin ain't easy, but it's necessary.

[Clippersfan86]

Parents were shitty.
Daughter chose to run away.
Most likely started hanging around druggies.
That guy started pimping her.

Don't act like she was some virginal, rational, intelligent person. She's dumb and the pimp took advantage. There's a sucker born every minute.

The ultimate fault lies with the parents, then the daughter, then the pimp.

If a dog attacks somebody are they to blame as well? I'm all for blaming the parents+pimp but yours and Blaze's angle of blaming a rebellious teen is stupid as shit.

[andgar923]

Raise your daughter better and she won't become a whore.

Yes and No.

This isn't necessarily true tho. I've seen girls that came from good families and were brought up well turn into whores. I know it's generally not the case, but it does happen.

[Clippersfan86]

I wasn't mocking you, wanting to kill pimps is frightening to me.

Being a dirtbag doesn't warrant being murdered to me.

I'm not suggesting any of us go vigilante randomly. I'm just seeing it from the perspective of a hurting parent. I know I would pull the trigger without thinking about it.. and would probably shoot him 5 more times on the floor. I have a very dark side that I've battled with my entire life.

It only comes out when it needs to... and it would take something EXTREME like this to bring it out. Anybody hurting my friends, future kids, girlfriend. Anybody beating up a homeless person, innocent animal, elderly or disabled person. All of these scenarios are death sentences from me.

[Clippersfan86]

It depends what someone was doing to the dog. Did they trespass? Did they taunt it? Did the dog get loose? Did they go try and pet it when they shouldn't have? Was it rabid? I trust a dog more than people, they don't plan shit out maliciously.

She is the definition of a rebellious teen. She f*cking left home at 16 and became a hooker. That's directly her fault. She was probably taught badly, but she made the choice to leave.

Stay and home, and don't be a piece of shit. Then your parents won't murder someone.

The girl probably had no money, nothing but the clothes on her back and you blame her for easily being manipulated by money? You're ignorant.

[Clippersfan86]

That's why I'm now scared of you.

I'm speaking out of anger right now. Maybe just the first shot :cheers: . Seriously though I've already thought about it and realized that in the scenarios I gave you I WOULD kill somebody. Funny thing about it is... it's all about protecting other people and not about self preservation. So at least I can say it's unlikely to ever happen and I don't use that dark side to hurt innocent people.

[ballup]

Wow, guess pimpin' aint easy.

[CelticBaller]

I'm not suggesting any of us go vigilante randomly. I'm just seeing it from the perspective of a hurting parent. I know I would pull the trigger without thinking about it.. and would probably shoot him 5 more times on the floor. I have a very dark side that I've battled with my entire life.

It only comes out when it needs to... and it would take something EXTREME like this to bring it out. Anybody hurting my friends, future kids, girlfriend. Anybody beating up a homeless person, innocent animal, elderly or disabled person. All of these scenarios are death sentences from me.
get some help dude

[Clippersfan86]

Did you mean to quote me? The f*ck are you talking about?


You don't know her money situation or manipulation, yet you are 100% sure that she was coerced into this life.

If those were her problems, staying at home would've alleviated that. If her parents drive a Benz SUV I'm pretty sure they aren't hurting for money. Stay at home, they care for you. You leave, you turn into a whore.

:roll: more ignorance. Buddy how many teen runaways do you think have everything they need? Especially ones coming from a broken home? You're talking to somebody who grew up in level 10 and 12 facilities with dozens of kids like this. Chances are high that she was desperate for food, clothes, shelter etc.

[dunksby]

What's wrong with a girl choosing to become a hooker?

[Clippersfan86]

get some help dude

I have. You'd be surprised how good I've turned out compared to most the kids I grew up with if you got to know me. As I said... my darker side has only come out a couple times in my life when I needed it to. I'm not some rage filled person who's always fuming or something. I just have no mercy on people who do things to hurt innocent people/animals. What separates me from the most is that if I see injustice.. I have the balls to stop it.

As I said before... you guys are being judgmental about this but I'm 100 percent sure most of you in this scenario would THINK these things. The difference is you'd be too scared to act on them.

[Clippersfan86]

Why the f*ck are you calling me ignorant? I don't give a f*ck where you grew up.

Her parents had money and she left. That's her fault. She wasn't desperate for clothing and food until she ran away.

She made her choice, and most of the runaways/abandoned kids didn't have the choice. She's just a stupid whore that thought she could take care of herself, not someone that was born unlucky to a crackhead mom.

:facepalm . I wish you lived in some of the places I did and many many other troubled kids/teens who had shitty home lives did. I have zero doubt you would have a different perspective.

[rezznor]

Went back to actually watch the video and yes, I would do filthy things to several of her orifices.


she was ugly, dude

[DropStep]

A 22 year old pimp? Dude is a prodigy. Respect his hustle.

[Bucket_Nakedz]

girls fathers name is laprell? yeah, he didn't kill dude as a father. that nigguh was a pimp who got mad his own daughter left his track for a better pimp.

[iamgine]

Well, pimps know there are these risks when they sign up for the job so...



LMAO the pimp's dad didn't look the least bit sad. I think he's actually happy his son was dead. :roll:

[Clippersfan86]

Well, pimps know there are these risks when they sign up for the job so...



LMAO the pimp's dad didn't look the least bit sad. I think he's actually happy his son was dead. :roll:

:oldlol:

[Scholar]

A second attempt, not far from the couple's home near San Francisco's Candlestick Park, succeeded. Sneed, officials said, was gshot to death in his car on June 4 at 2 a.m. by Gilton, who allegedly fired a .40-caliber weapon from a silver Mercedes-Benz SUV.

WTF is a gshot?



Anyway, the parents shouldn't have killed the man. I understand the frustration, but c'mon now. What did they think, their daughter was entirely innocent? She was just as guilty of being a cheap whore as that dude was of being a pimp.

:facepalm Now both parents are risking throwing their lives away over a trashy, undeserving-of-love child. Maybe they should've been better parents. :confusedshrug:

I will say, though, that the []D [] []V[] []D probably did deserve death. They're almost the scum of the Earth, right behind pedophiles/rapists.

[Clippersfan86]

WTF is a gshot?



Anyway, the parents shouldn't have killed the man. I understand the frustration, but c'mon now. What did they think, their daughter was entirely innocent? She was just as guilty of being a cheap whore as that dude was of being a pimp.

:facepalm Now both parents are risking throwing their lives away over a trashy, undeserving-of-love child. Maybe they should've been better parents. :confusedshrug:

I will say, though, that the []D [] []V[] []D probably did deserve death. They're almost the scum of the Earth, right behind pedophiles/rapists.

:applause:

[B-Easy8]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ARG9BXUZSc

[TheSilentKiller]

WTF is a gshot?



Anyway, the parents shouldn't have killed the man. I understand the frustration, but c'mon now. What did they think, their daughter was entirely innocent? She was just as guilty of being a cheap whore as that dude was of being a pimp.

:facepalm Now both parents are risking throwing their lives away over a trashy, undeserving-of-love child. Maybe they should've been better parents. :confusedshrug:

I will say, though, that the []D [] []V[] []D probably did deserve death. They're almost the scum of the Earth, right behind pedophiles/rapists.
I would go as far as saying you deserve death for writing pimp that way

[Horde of Temujin]

Parents were shitty.
Daughter chose to run away.
Most likely started hanging around druggies.
That guy started pimping her.

Don't act like she was some virginal, rational, intelligent person. She's dumb and the pimp took advantage
. There's a sucker born every minute.

The ultimate fault lies with the parents, then the daughter, then the pimp.


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Men who take advantage of young girls are scumbags and this pimp deserves the lion's share of the blame

[nathanjizzle]

good riddance, got the parents locked up, the pimp dead, now all thats left to do is find that hoe and stone her to death, then the human gene pool will strengthen 10 percent.

[irondarts]

I'm sure the daughter is really going to be able to turn her life around now that her parents will be in jail for the rest of their lives.....parents are going to regret this shit forever. What happens to all of their kids now? They just screwed up their whole family more than they helped it.

[SevereUpInHere]

This isn't much different than killing someone who is supplying drugs to your daughter. At the end of the day it's the individuals choice, noone has a gun to their head.

Parents are stupid for killing the dude and also for throwing the rest of their lives away too.


Oh and f*ck defense lawyers too. Scum 99% of the time.

[Clippersfan86]

I'm sure the daughter is really going to be able to turn her life around now that her parents will be in jail for the rest of their lives.....parents are going to regret this shit forever. What happens to all of their kids now? They just screwed up their whole family more than they helped it.

One more scum of the earth dead. That makes the world a better place. The girl's life is unlikely to be better or worse.

[YAWN]

She was 17...left home a year earlier on her own. And was appearing in escort service ads? Pimping is not slavery. Unless he had her ****ing with a gun to her head he didnt deserve to die.
fear is a powerful tool. ask the american government.

[SevereUpInHere]

One more scum of the earth dead. That makes the world a better place. The girl's life is unlikely to be better or worse.

Bullsh!t, now the girl has to live with the fact that HER choice lead to her parents being in jail, left the other kids without parents and also that HER choice got her pimp killed.

I'm sure that shit will weigh on her for the rest of her life.

[irondarts]

One more scum of the earth dead. That makes the world a better place. The girl's life is unlikely to be better or worse.
Really? You really think this won't have a negative effect on the daughter or the parent's other kids? Now that's just ignorant.

[Clippersfan86]

Really? You really think this won't have a negative effect on the daughter or the parent's other kids? Now that's just ignorant.

She was already a runaway with a bad home life. As Blaze pointed out she's been out of the house for a year. Them killing her pimp and going to prison will likely have little impact on her already ****ed life. Even if so.... it may make her life worse (not sure how if she wasn't a dependent) but it may save many girls from this lifestyle.

[YAWN]

I'm sure the daughter is really going to be able to turn her life around now that her parents will be in jail for the rest of their lives.....parents are going to regret this shit forever. What happens to all of their kids now? They just screwed up their whole family more than they helped it.
i don't think they will be in jail for life. 15-20 for the guy who will get out in about 7. And the mom will probably get like 10 and do 2.

[Clippersfan86]

fear is a powerful tool. ask the american government.

:applause: . Apparently being intimidated into something is now considered free will :oldlol: . So when mobsters would go and extort shop owners for "protection money" it's free will of the shop owners! Nevermind the fact that if they don't do it... they will get their shop torched, blown up or shot up.

[irondarts]

She was already a runaway with a bad home life. As Blaze pointed out she's been out of the house for a year. Them killing her pimp and going to prison will likely have little impact on her already ****ed life. Even if so.... it may make her life worse (not sure how if she wasn't a dependent) but it may save many girls from this lifestyle.
What about guilt? What about her feeling like her siblings have no parents in their lives due to her choices?

I doubt anybody is going to be saved from this story, there's probably another pimp on the same corner right now.

This is just a shitty situation from all angles, but the parent's weren't right in killing the pimp, because I'm sure there's another pimp taking over. It's like drug dealers, one dies or goes to jail, another one is on the same corner the next day.

[Clippersfan86]

i don't think they will be in jail for life. 15-20 for the guy who will get out in about 7. And the mom will probably get like 10 and do 2.

Another fact. Given the circumstances... I'm sure they will serve less than half time for good behavior.

[Clippersfan86]

What about guilt? What about her feeling like her siblings have no parents in their lives due to her choices?

I doubt anybody is going to be saved from this story, there's probably another pimp on the same corner right now.

This is just a shitty situation from all angles, but the parent's weren't right in killing the pimp, because I'm sure there's another pimp taking over. It's like drug dealers, one dies or goes to jail, another one is on the same corner the next day.

Of course there are other pimps dude. That's common sense that there is always a new criminal stepping into the role of the ones you arrest/kill. Doesn't mean you can't have an impact taking one scumbag off the streets. Otherwise you're basically saying there is no point in enforcing laws or arresting people because it will keep happening anyways :confusedshrug: .

[BoogieWoogieMan]

One more scum of the earth dead. That makes the world a better place. The girl's life is unlikely to be better or worse.

Life isn't as black and white as you make it seem. It would be wonderful living life in that fashion because it will make things simple, but it's a lie. You don't know the whole back story of this girl, what lead her to this direction, what lead the pimp to this direction. For all we know, the parents could have been abusive (not physical, but emotional or psychological), and the girl would rather live on the streets than live with them. Yes, what the pimp did was wrong, but how about we find out his story? Oh, I'm sorry, he's dead and you believe he deserved it. :rolleyes:

[irondarts]

Of course there are other pimps dude. That's common sense that there is always a new criminal stepping into the role of the ones you arrest/kill. Doesn't mean you can't have an impact taking one scumbag off the streets. Otherwise you're basically saying there is no point in enforcing laws or arresting people because it will keep happening anyways :confusedshrug: .
But I was replying to the fact that you said that some girls may be saved by this story, that's doubtful, the same vulnerable girls will be taken adantage by pimps, I really don't think this story will change anything.

Again, this whole situation is very sad and pointless to me. The parent's will now live to regret this decision, and they didn't really help they're daughter in any way, and they hurt their other children. So now one pimp's dead? OK, his replacement is now taking over. Big deal. Nothing changes, one face is taken over by another. Two parents are in jail, and there's kid's without parents for a good chunk of time.

[YAWN]

It's like drug dealers, one dies or goes to jail, another one is on the same corner the next day.

I would think most of these guys have some sort of code about not messing with minors, but I guess thats too much to ask.

[Clippersfan86]

Life isn't as black and white as you make it seem. It would be wonderful living life in that fashion because it will make things simple, but it's a lie. You don't know the whole back story of this girl, what lead her to this direction, what lead the pimp to this direction. For all we know, the parents could have been abusive (not physical, but emotional or psychological), and the girl would rather live on the streets than live with them. Yes, what the pimp did was wrong, but how about we find out his story? Oh, I'm sorry, he's dead and you believe he deserved it. :rolleyes:

All I need to know is statistics in this case. Combine that with my experience in this stuff and it's no surprise I have strong opinions. Very few minors volunteer for prostitution. It's almost always forced prostitution and you guys want me to look at the other side of the coin and go with the possible 10 percent chance that she volunteered and should be held accountable?

I'm okay with holding the parents accountable because had they raised her better it almost certainly wouldn't have happened. To blame the girl though for ignorance, lack of education, being mentally fragile and vulnerable???

90 percent of prostitutes were physically abused at home and 74 percent were sexually abused, so obviously she was probably abused. Which is why I've said multiple times some blame on parents is justified.

[irondarts]

I would think most of these guys have some sort of code about not messing with minors, but I guess thats too much to ask.
Pimps? Doubtful, minors are probably the most vulnerable and easy to lure into the lifestyle. It's sick but true.

[YAWN]

Yes, what the pimp did was wrong, but how about we find out his story? Oh, I'm sorry, he's dead and you believe he deserved it. :rolleyes:

Are you serious? There is absolutely nothing that could justify pimping out minors for sex. MINORS BoogieWoogieMan, MINORS!

[Clippersfan86]

I would think most of these guys have some sort of code about not messing with minors, but I guess thats too much to ask.

It's sick. In countries like Pakistan they have 10 year old prostitutes.

[irondarts]

BTW, CF86, I agree that it's good to have scum like this off the street (but there's lots more), but I don't think the parent's accomplished anything positive for their daughter (and other children) by executing some vigilante justice.

[SevereUpInHere]

This chick has probably already found a new pimp. Once a ho, always a ho. Now her parents are in jail for no good reason.

[Clippersfan86]

BTW you guys realize child traffickers/molesters/rapists all get a green light in prison right? If the dad didn't kill the guy somebody in prison would have probably crippled or killed him. At least he died pretty quickly here rather than getting shanked 50 times and bleeding out.

[BoogieWoogieMan]

Are you serious? There is absolutely nothing that could justify pimping out minors for sex. MINORS BoogieWoogieMan, MINORS!

I missed out on that key fact, but I still don't think the Pimp deserves death. Living life behind bars seems like a better punishment.

Anyways, there will always be pimps and prositutes in the world as long as money exist.

[BoogieWoogieMan]

BTW you guys realize child traffickers/molesters/rapists all get a green light in prison right? If the dad didn't kill the guy somebody in prison would have probably crippled or killed him. At least he died pretty quickly here rather than getting shanked 50 times and bleeding out.

So you're cool with wasting a clip on him, but not having him getting stabbed 50 times?

[Clippersfan86]

So you're cool with wasting a clip on him, but not having him getting stabbed 50 times?

That's not the point I was trying to make. I was basically saying.... he was dead either way probably it doesn't really matter who killed him. What you guys aren't remembering is that there are reports of these parents going to the police for help. They weren't helped... and only after a while took matters into their own hands.

This isn't some spur of the moment situation where option 1 was to go kill somebody.

[BoogieWoogieMan]

That's not the point I was trying to make. I was basically saying.... he was dead either way probably it doesn't really matter who killed him. What you guys aren't remembering is that there are reports of these parents going to the police for help. They weren't helped... and only after a while took matters into their own hands.

This isn't some spur of the moment situation where option 1 was to go kill somebody.

I can understand the parents intentions, but they should have brought attention to the media that the police were doing f*ck all. By giving them the green light for vigilante justice, why shouldn't other people have the right to do the same? What is crossing the line?

[tpols]

BTW you guys realize child traffickers/molesters/rapists all get a green light in prison right? If the dad didn't kill the guy somebody in prison would have probably crippled or killed him. At least he died pretty quickly here rather than getting shanked 50 times and bleeding out.
Pimps definitely dont get that treatment in prison.:oldlol: Dude was from compton and probably knows half the guys in the joint/has connects everywhere.

[Clippersfan86]

I can understand the parents intentions, but they should have brought attention to the media that the police were doing f*ck all. By giving them the green light for vigilante justice, why shouldn't other people have the right to do the same? What is crossing the line?

I agree it's obviously a thin line. I'd rather have a bunch of parents killing pimps than having pimps :confusedshrug: . Vigilante justice is the lesser evil when compared to allowing these scum to walk the streets. If cops won't arrest them then what can you do? Jail or death are the only options and one wasn't happening.

I doubt the media would have picked this story up and done anything considering how common prostitution is.

[SCY]

She was 17...not exactly a helpless child. Sure she maybe was influenced to some extent but she was old enough to make her own choices. This guy was probably a douche but deserved a fair trial like anyone else. And I doubt pimping 17 year-olds makes you a big target in prison. What the parents did isn't commendable in and of itself, and as others have pointed out has damaged the lives of their other children. The happiest guy in all this is the pimp that gets to take over the dead guy's turf.

ETA: Parents should have gone back in time and shot whoever had the wise idea to outlaw prostitution. We wouldn't have pimps without that guy.

[Clippersfan86]

Pimps definitely dont get that treatment in prison.:oldlol: Dude was from compton and probably knows half the guys in the joint/has connects everywhere.

He was a 22 year old pimp. Doubt he has a ton of connections. Even if he's safe with the blacks he's going to have to worry about the other groups. All it takes is for one of the guards to let it slip that he was pimping kids and it all changes. Young pimps get absolutely ZERO respect though.

[Clippersfan86]

She was 17...not exactly a helpless child. Sure she maybe was influenced to some extent but she was old enough to make her own choices. This guy was probably a douche but deserved a fair trial like anyone else. And I doubt pimping 17 year-olds makes you a big target in prison. What the parents did isn't commendable in and of itself, and as others have pointed out has damaged the lives of their other children. The happiest guy in all this is the pimp that gets to take over the dead guy's turf.

Just going by statistics and probability. Chances are if the guy has a 17 year old (who may have been with him since 16) he has a few 14 or 15 year olds too. I agree if that was his youngest, he's not going to stand out. Either way.. I stand by the fact that he's better off dead. I have a Texas mentality where I DO NOT believe everybody deserves a fair trial. Some deserve death on the spot.

[dunksby]

Anybody now realize why she ran away from home in the first place? :confusedshrug:

[tpols]

He was a 22 year old pimp. Doubt he has a ton of connections. Even if he's safe with the blacks he's going to have to worry about the other groups. All it takes is for one of the guards to let it slip that he was pimping kids and it all changes. Young pimps get absolutely ZERO respect though.
Pimping kids? He was pimping women.. who happened to be 17. Half the hookers out there are very young. It's not at all the same as someone who got caught in a child trafficking business.. not even close. There's a huge fine line you're blurring here.

And if he ever went to jail it probably would've been for weapons possesion or some type of assault/violent act. He wasnt in the mold of some sick antisocial wierdo pervert.. pretty much the opposite.

[SCY]

Just going by statistics and probability. Chances are if the guy has a 17 year old (who may have been with him since 16) he has a few 14 or 15 year olds too. I agree if that was his youngest, he's not going to stand out. Either way.. I stand by the fact that he's better off dead. I have a Texas mentality where I DO NOT believe everybody deserves a fair trial. Some deserve death on the spot.

Well since you have that mentality, I'm going to take the leap that you've committed a few vigilante murders. Who needs facts? I'm coming right over to shoot you dead on the spot.

[Clippersfan86]

Murder is better than prostitution?

Depends on the circumstance. In this case yes. Murdering one criminal has a good impact on the world with very little consequence. Allowing that pimp to live.. and run a ring of 15+ prostitutes which spread disease, unwanted children (accidental pregnancy) among other things such as the pimps beating and essentially enslaving multiple women in many situations?

I'd say 1 death to save the lives of many is a choice you should make 10 times out of 10.

[Clippersfan86]

Pimping kids? He was pimping women.. who happened to be 17. Half the hookers out there are very young. It's not at all the same as someone who got caught in a child trafficking business.. not even close. There's a huge fine line you're blurring here.

And if he ever went to jail it probably would've been for weapons possesion or some type of assault/violent act. He wasnt in the mold of some sick antisocial wierdo pervert.. pretty much the opposite.

Not sure where you are from but 17 is a kid bro. I know from what you said before that you're 19 or something like that but when you get to the age where you start thinking kids, your perspective will change.

To be a pimp you have to have ****ed up morals and anti social issues among other things. Not sure why you're defending pimping of minors :roll: . Tells me a lot about you.

[Clippersfan86]

Well since you have that mentality, I'm going to take the leap that you've committed a few vigilante murders. Who needs facts? I'm coming right over to shoot you dead on the spot.

This doesn't even make sense. What I'm deducing is LIKELY and PROBABLE based on FBI statistics and personal experiences. You assuming I've murdered because I said I'm glad he's dead or that if I was the parent I'd do the same isn't even a good comparison :no: .

[tpols]

Not sure where you are from but 17 is a kid bro. I know from what you said before that you're 19 or something like that but when you get to the age where you start thinking kids, your perspective will change.

To be a pimp you have to have ****ed up morals and anti social issues among other things. Not sure why you're defending pimping of minors :roll: . Tells me a lot about you.
How am I defending pimping?:oldlol: All I was refuting was that pimps get treated like child molestors in jail. Thats a joke. There's no pimping code that says anything about minors. ALL pimps do that.. there isnt some pimping convention run out of nevada that regulates ages for pimping recruitment. Thats how it is.. and of course it's wrong and totally disgusting. But its not in the category you're putting it in that prison gangs specifically target.

In the media it is wide spread what blacks think about pimping. They fvcking glorify it.. which makes what you said completely backwards.

[Kblaze8855]

Apparently being intimidated into something is now considered free will .

Give me one speck of evidence that it happened.

There are hundreds of millions of women who dont suddenly start running with a pimp. They are doing something to prevent it it seems...

And shes 17?

A 17 year old is responsible enough for their own actions to not assume they got forced to have sex for money when all we know is that they had sex for money. Plenty of women are doing it without being forced.



So when mobsters would go and extort shop owners for "protection money" it's free will of the shop owners! Nevermind the fact that if they don't do it... they will get their shop torched, blown up or shot up.

Yea...because millions of shop owners extort themselves....

These women have free will. dude didnt walk into her parents house and make her **** for money.

Something happened between 10 year old with the world ahead of her and being a whore at 17. And you have no evidence that that pimp made whatever it was happen. how many women with sexual jobs claim they were molested?

These women arent hit with the Men in Black mind wiping beam and told to be whores.

Are some idiotic/weak willed women manipulated? Goes without saying.

Are a lot of women getting pimped by choice because they rather have the protection/setup and doing it on their own is more dangerous?

Can many simply...stop? And choose not to for reasons ranging from not wanting to to needing the money for a drug addiction?

Goes without saying. And its not like its my opinion. There are documentaries with them saying the same thing.

Im not saying a guy deserves to die when I have no information aside from a girls parents believing he somehow talked her into it. Thats what any parent would tell themselves......

[SCY]

This doesn't even make sense. What I'm deducing is LIKELY and PROBABLY based on FBI statistics and personal experiences. You assuming I've murdered because I said I'm glad he's dead or that if I was the parent I'd do the same isn't even a good comparison :no: .

You're missing the point. Your FBI statistics and personal experiences should not be deciding who has the right to live or die, any more than my baseless assumptions should. We take away a person's freedom after proving his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, not when you or a vigilante deduces that it's OK to do so. We have a legal system in this country. If you're not happy with the way it's working, do what you can in your power to fix it; and don't complain that it's not easy as picking up a gun.

Just realized my avy+user title is extremely ironic for this post.

[tpols]

Depends on the circumstance. In this case yes. Murdering one criminal has a good impact on the world with very little consequence. Allowing that pimp to live.. and run a ring of 15+ prostitutes which spread disease, unwanted children (accidental pregnancy) among other things such as the pimps beating and essentially enslaving multiple women in many situations?

I'd say 1 death to save the lives of many is a choice you should make 10 times out of 10.
But 90% of those girls will be reassigned. It wont change anything. That girl now has NO parental support and is likely traumatized by this.. what the fuvck do you think shes going to do now? Go to med school?.:roll:

If this guy were to be tried in court and convicted of this crime he wouldn't get the death penalty. If you were to take a poll from everyone in the United States on what his punishment should be, less than 1% would opt for execution.

[nathanjizzle]

what is there to argue about? parents were wrong for killing the pimp. pretty simp. if you cant understand why then your pretty simp.

[knickballer]

That pimp sounds like a scumbag. When your a scumbag expect crazy shit to happen. Not a tear will shed from my eye to say the least..

[Clippersfan86]

But 90% of those girls will be reassigned. It wont change anything. That girl now has NO parental support and is likely traumatized by this.. what the fuvck do you think shes going to do now? Go to med school?.:roll:

If this guy were to be tried in court and convicted of this crime he wouldn't get the death penalty. If you were to take a poll from everyone in the United States on what his punishment should be, less than 1% would opt for execution.

I understand your point but as I said earlier... if you have that mentality there may not be law enforcement at all :confusedshrug: . Arrest one pimp, another rises... okay? I get that. Doesn't mean that you can't make a difference by removing criminals. I don't frankly care if it's by death or prison. In California our prisons are already overflowing passed capacity and tax payers pay for these POS ****ers to eat 3 meals a day, sleep comfortably and do activities?

**** that. They deserve to kiss the dirt.

[Clippersfan86]

You're missing the point. Your FBI statistics and personal experiences should not be deciding who has the right to live or die, any more than my baseless assumptions should. We take away a person's freedom after proving his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, not when you or a vigilante deduces that it's OK to do so. We have a legal system in this country. If you're not happy with the way it's working, do what you can in your power to fix it; and don't complain that it's not easy as picking up a gun.

Just realized my avy+user title is extremely ironic for this post.

My post above applies to this. I'm unhappy with the fact that our taxes go to feeding, clothing, bathing, and essentially giving these POS prisoners a comfortable life. I know friends that were actually INTENTIONALLY returning to prison. That goes to show you that this guy as well as similar scumbags, deserve MUCH worse.

[SCREWstonRockets]

Pimps are scumbags. Honestly, we are better off without them. Is it wrong? Sure.

[SCY]

I understand your point but as I said earlier... if you have that mentality there may not be law enforcement at all :confusedshrug: . Arrest one pimp, another rises... okay? I get that. Doesn't mean that you can't make a difference by removing criminals. I don't frankly care if it's by death or prison. In California our prisons are already overflowing passed capacity and tax payers pay for these POS ****ers to eat 3 meals a day, sleep comfortably and do activities?

**** that. They deserve to kiss the dirt.

You think your CJ degree would have covered that all crimes aren't equal. There will always be a demand for drugs, hookers, etc., thus there will always be a line of drug dealers, hookers and pimps to supply them. This is obviously not true of all crimes. Not like every time you arrest a drunk driver off a particular street, there will be a new drunk driver on that street to supply the demand for drunk drivers.

Anyway, I don't why I'm bothering since your stances are completely radical, and if you were to act on them you would be acting much further outside the law than this pimp was.

[SCY]

My post above applies to this. I'm unhappy with the fact that our taxes go to feeding, clothing, bathing, and essentially giving these POS prisoners a comfortable life. I know friends that were actually INTENTIONALLY returning to prison. That goes to show you that this guy as well as similar scumbags, deserve MUCH worse.

So your problem is really the punishment stage, not the trial stage. The thing is, just because you don't care for the punishment doesn't give you the right to take away a person's right to be judged by a jury of their peers. You should try reading that Constitution thing sometime, and perhaps work to push your lawmakers to adopt tougher penalties for crimes.

[Clippersfan86]

You think your CJ degree would have covered that all crimes aren't equal. There will always be a demand for drugs, hookers, etc., thus there will always be a line of drug dealers, hookers and pimps to supply them. This is obviously not true of all crimes. Not like every time you arrest a drunk driver off a particular street, there will be a new drunk driver on that street to supply the demand for drunk drivers.

Anyway, I don't why I'm bothering since your stances are completely radical, and if you were to act on them you would be acting much further outside the law than this pimp was.

I didn't finish man. I just took a year of CJ and realized I didn't want to do Law Enforcement even though I trained for it and everything. I get what you're saying that drug/prostitution related crimes are never ending. Taking one pimp off the street MAY not have a big impact. There is a chance though right? A chance that maybe at least one or two women will get a second chance at a life because of this? If that's the case then why isn't it worth it?

Maybe I'm being too heavy handed in my opinions or having too much of a Utopian viewpoint of life... but I think in order to make a difference we first have to have an often times overly optimistic attitude and believe.

[knickballer]

Pimps are scumbags. Honestly, we are better off without them. Is it wrong? Sure.

This.

[Kblaze8855]

Killing pimps wont do much of anything. Its too widespread a market with too many women down to fill the need.

Way the world tends to find a way to make the worst of things you probably kill a pimp with 2 kids who end up in the system without him to support them and they end up criminals doing as much to hurt the world as the pimp would by converting 2 extra women.

[Clippersfan86]

Killing pimps wont do much of anything. Its too widespread a market with too many women down to fill the need.

Way the world tends to find a way to make the worst of things you probably kill a pimp with 2 kids who end up in the system without him to support them and they end up criminals doing as much to hurt the world as the pimp would by converting 2 extra women.

As true as this may be we can never concede to this idea or we already lost. For me it all ties back into what I said about crime vs law enforcement. It may seem like we are making no progress or like you can't make a difference but once you acknowledge that, the battle is lost.

I think what happens is you hold your ground and push back as long as you can until a breakthrough is made. Look at mob history for example. The mobs in America looked all powerful and ran so much. They ran Vegas. They ran Chicago. They ran a lot and it looked like everything law enforcement did was a waste of time and energy. Then the government passed the RICO act which allowed prosecution of entire mob families and illegal businesses rather than having to try each of them.

The mafia was eventually neutered in America pretty much. Still exists but doesn't have much power here, at least in comparison to before. Not trying to give history lesson but pointing out that even if the stopping of drugs and pimping seems hopeless.. a certain law or tactic will eventually come that will break it's back.

[tpols]

As true as this may be we can never concede to this idea or we already lost. For me it all ties back into what I said about crime vs law enforcement. It may seem like we are making no progress or like you can't make a difference but once you acknowledge that, the battle is lost.

I think what happens is you hold your ground and push back as long as you can until a breakthrough is made. Look at mob history for example. The mobs in America looked all powerful and ran so much. They ran Vegas. They ran Chicago. They ran a lot and it looked like everything law enforcement did was a waste of time and energy. Then the government passed the RICO act which allowed prosecution of entire mob families and illegal businesses rather than having to try each of them.

The mafia was eventually neutered in America pretty much. Still exists but doesn't have much power here, at least in comparison to before. Not trying to give history lesson but pointing out that even if the stopping of drugs and pimping seems hopeless.. a certain law or tactic will eventually come that will break it's back.
Pimpings been around since the dawn of time.. nothing is ever going to stop prostitution.

[Kblaze8855]

We already lost.

When the opponent is human lust and human greed....society loses.

[Clippersfan86]

We already lost.

When the opponent is human lust and human greed....society loses.

I have hope. I think in general people truly want to do good. Crushing the bad seeds (like this pimp) will eventually make serious ground and the world will rise up. Look no further than disaster like 9/11. Watch people helping strangers with blood, sweat and tears and no self interest in mind. That should give you hope that we ARE indeed capable of great things. The key is getting people to do it collectively for long periods of time.

[Clippersfan86]

Pimpings been around since the dawn of time.. nothing is ever going to stop prostitution.

It's not going to be completely eradicated. Just like the RICO act and American law enforcement didn't completely get rid of the mob or gangs. They just severely crippled it to where organized crime has never and will probably never recover here in America.

Prostitution is going to continue but maybe pimps can be eliminated and it can lessen big time in degree or numbers.

[Kblaze8855]

Problem is...you dont get to decide what other people think is good.

Even cops barely care about prostitution. Its not even illegal in much of the world. Im reasonably sure weed is more commonly illegal than prostitution.

Sex for money will never ever ever go away so long as people like sex and people who can provide it need money.

When society has enough riches so nobody is poor and everyone is roughly equal money wise...maybe then you can start to fight it. But even then the few super rich will buy women who want to be rich.

So long as the concept of money exists there will be pimps because people want sex and women will sell themselves.

[Clippersfan86]

Problem is...you dont get to decide what other people think is good.

Even cops barely care about prostitution. Its not even illegal in much of the world. Im reasonably sure weed is more commonly illegal than prostitution.

Sex for money will never ever ever go away so long as people like sex and people who can provide it need money.

When society has enough riches so nobody is poor and everyone is roughly equal money wise...maybe then you can start to fight it. But even then the few super rich will buy women who want to be rich.

So long as the concept of money exists there will be pimps because people want sex and women will sell themselves.

Then go for what women's rights groups are going for. Legalized prostitution with no pimps :hammerhead: . I'm not saying I expect prostitution will or can go away. I'm saying at least remove the pimps which takes out the abuse aspect, most of the drugs AND most importantly forced prostitution. If women want to volunteer that's their choice.

[Clippersfan86]

Remember I wasn't really bitching about prostitution for the most part... but mostly pimps.

[tpols]

It's not going to be completely eradicated. Just like the RICO act and American law enforcement didn't completely get rid of the mob or gangs. They just severely crippled it to where organized crime has never and will probably never recover here in America.

Prostitution is going to continue but maybe pimps can be eliminated and it can lessen big time in degree or numbers.
Unless pimping started to interfere with the government's business on a large scale, it wont ever be eradicated.. or even targeted. Mobs were gaining power over politics.. so politics shut them down. Drug kingpins were making too much money which hugely cuts down government revenues/taxes.. so they were shut down. Pimping is a low scale, region by region, small business operation that will never reach the money levels or power levels that the mobs and druglords reached.. so it will never be worried about like them.

And there's no prostitution w/o pimps.. who deals with the guys who try to rip the women off or take advantage of them?

[Kblaze8855]

There are still pimps where its legal.

Women are still forced into it where its legal.

And women who let men control them are universal especially weak willed ones who feel they need to be taken care of. Men have been beating girlfriends since the dawn of time.

You dont think a pimp could employ and beat his girls were it legal for them to sell themselves?

Situations like in Nevada would pop up nationwide and a new breed of pimp would emerge serving the same basic purpose and taking in all kinds of girls who want fast money.

Ad where there are people with money buying women there will be parties and drug use. With that comes drug addiction. What is the owner of a legal brothel with a gang of drug using hookers working for him?

And if its legal they will be easier to replace. I wouldnt be shocked if it made the violent pimps even more violent. Can go on craigslist and replace a ho in 5 minutes anyway.

The world doesnt care enough to fight this.

[Clippersfan86]

Unless pimping started to interfere with the government's business on a large scale, it wont ever be eradicated.. or even targeted. Mobs were gaining power over politics.. so politics shut them down. Drug kingpins were making too much money which hugely cuts down government revenues/taxes.. so they were shut down. Pimping is a low scale, region by region, small business operation that will never reach the money levels or power levels that the mobs and druglords reached.. so it will never be worried about like them.

And there's no prostitution w/o pimps.. who deals with the guys who try to rip the women off or take advantage of them?

I agree there are drawbacks to no pimps and also agree that government is unlikely to ever intervene because pimping/prostitution isn't affecting their money. Which is pretty ****ed up in itself. Basically the government doesn't care that much unless it's affecting them. This is one of the reasons why I got out of pursuing law enforcement. The whole protect and serve moto is complete bullshit. Law enforcement was created to enforce laws that benefit the government, not to help the people.

Let's hope eventually pimps impede on what the government wants... so that they will be targeted.

[SCY]

Maybe I'm being too heavy handed in my opinions or having too much of a Utopian viewpoint of life... but I think in order to make a difference we first have to have an often times overly optimistic attitude and believe.

So it's your overt optimism shining through in your desire to kill everyone who might have committed a crime?

[Clippersfan86]

So it's your overt optimism shining through in your desire to kill everyone who might have committed a crime?

No it's my optimism telling me that removing these bad people will automatically make the world a better place. BTW don't twist my words.... I never mentioned killing criminals in general. As another poster said... rapists and pimps are pretty much the low of low scum of the earth.

[Kblaze8855]

Let's hope eventually pimps impede on what the government wants... so that they will be targeted.


The government is old rich white men with old wives.

They are the ones buying the hookers/pimps who know how to keep quiet.

You know how much damage a DC escort service takedown could probably do if you get all the local hookers on the record?

Old rich men do not want to get on the bad side of pimps and whores.

[Clippersfan86]

The government is old rich white men with old wives.

They are the ones buying the hookers/pimps who know how to keep quiet.

You know how much damage a DC escort service takedown could probably do if you get all the local hookers on the record?

Sad but true. It's the most powerful people that are the biggest problem and the most corrupt often times.

[Clippersfan86]

kblaze makes me believe i can be a pimp :pimp:

:roll:

[tpols]

Let's hope eventually pimps impede on what the government wants... so that they will be targeted.
Gonna have to be some pretty big pimping organizations.:oldlol:

[Kblaze8855]

Gonna have to be some pretty big pimping organizations.:oldlol:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhFw90IsSr0

[Clippersfan86]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIsMyqTQHWg

[dude77]

we have a lot of 'child exploiter sympathizers on here' .. interesting

[Kblaze8855]

I dont think id call all killings murder.

[Clippersfan86]

The comments on that article are all pretty retarded, or at the very minimum absurdly hypocritical. I don't exactly understand what the logic is behind pimping being worse then murder.

Like everything else there is different degrees. In some cases murder is worse than pimping and in other cases like this.. I personally feel they are on the same level.

[Scholar]

I dont think id call all killings murder.

I don't think I'd call all murders killings.

[dude77]

girls fathers name is laprell? yeah, he didn't kill dude as a father. that nigguh was a pimp who got mad his own daughter left his track for a better pimp.

:oldlol:

[Kblaze8855]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lt8ubphZJF1qe6icco14_r1_500.jpg

[Kblaze8855]

If I remember correctly you are strongly anti death penalty anyway so of course the idea of justified killing or degrees being an issue wouldnt make sense.

For most people...not all intentional life ending actions are created equally.

[magic chiongson]

need pics of the girl first before deciding on whats right

[YAWN]

So Its just me that is swayed by the fact that the girl was 17, and started her gig when she was 16 presumably?? Does that not factor to any of your opinions?

If the daughter was 23 the whole situation would of never happened in the first place. He got what he deserved for being scum. I have no sympathy for these ****ers who mess with kids, whether it be prostitution, slavery, or hard drugs. And anyone who has ever or would ever rape a woman should have their life privileges revoked.

[Clippersfan86]

So Its just me that is swayed by the fact that the girl was 17, and started her gig when she was 16 presumably?? Does that not factor to any of your opinions?

If the daughter was 23 the whole situation would of never happened in the first place. He got what he deserved for being scum. I have no sympathy for these ****ers who mess with kids, whether it be prostitution, slavery, or hard drugs. And anyone who has ever or would ever rape a woman should have their life privileges revoked.

Yup. This is how I feel. If she was not a minor then w/e.... not going to make a scene, although I don't like it.

[EricGordon23]

Thats messed up. I would end up doing the same thing i suppose or maybe just move when i first noticed that she started being a whore

[Knicks101]

Depends on the circumstance. In this case yes. Murdering one criminal has a good impact on the world with very little consequence. Allowing that pimp to live.. and run a ring of 15+ prostitutes which spread disease, unwanted children (accidental pregnancy) among other things such as the pimps beating and essentially enslaving multiple women in many situations?

I'd say 1 death to save the lives of many is a choice you should make 10 times out of 10.

Funniest post in this thread. This dude clearly lives in a dream world where the death of this pimp has freed all of his hoes. They all woke up and it's nice and sunny, they go outside and return to their families and the children they've abandoned thanking that girl's parents for murdering him. Finally, they get to have real lives and get real jobs. Finish school and never have sex for money again. Thank you Barry and Lupe, thank you so much.

[HylianNightmare]

sucks that the parents are going to get into a bunch of trouble, dude was scum and shouldn't have been taking advantage of minors. not saying that the parents couldn't have done a better job raising her but still. pimps are some of the lowest people on the earth

[Kblaze8855]

I know that, but under a microscope that statement doesn't make sense. Only when blinded by emotional attachment and attempts to justify actions does it sound reasonable.

It sounds perfectly reasonable. It is simply not the same thing to intentionally kill someone who broke into your house and is in the process of raping your little sister as it is to stalk and murder a old lady you never met before and have no reason to do harm.

It simply isnt. And if that doesnt make sense to you under a microscope id have to say you are just lying about it for something to disagree with because I dont believe you to be stupid.

[CelticBaller]

So Its just me that is swayed by the fact that the girl was 17, and started her gig when she was 16 presumably?? Does that not factor to any of your opinions?

If the daughter was 23 the whole situation would of never happened in the first place. He got what he deserved for being scum. I have no sympathy for these ****ers who mess with kids, whether it be prostitution, slavery, or hard drugs. And anyone who has ever or would ever rape a woman should have their life privileges revoked.
She volunteer to. how hard is it to understand?

if you ask me she deserved to die, one less idiot off the earth

[niko]

Anyone see the Godfather? Remember what Don Corleone told the guy who wanted the two guys to die who beat his daughter?

Seems like overkill. Mind you, i'd have cracked this dude over the skull to get my point across if i had to and probably go to jail too. But they murdered him. he didn't murder their daughter.

[YAWN]

She volunteer to. how hard is it to understand?

if you ask me she deserved to die, one less idiot off the earth

You're assuming, a dumb ass immature shit for brains 16 year old kid volunteered to have sex with men for money... And even if that is in fact the case, you still don't understand how that is ****ing sick by the Pimp to 'employ' this child? :facepalm

[jdiaby]

So Its just me that is swayed by the fact that the girl was 17, and started her gig when she was 16 presumably?? Does that not factor to any of your opinions?

If the daughter was 23 the whole situation would of never happened in the first place. He got what he deserved for being scum. I have no sympathy for these ****ers who mess with kids, whether it be prostitution, slavery, or hard drugs. And anyone who has ever or would ever rape a woman should have their life privileges revoked.

This. While I won't take it as far a Clippersfan, this girl was 16 when she left home, there is no way in hell she wasn't coerced either thru force or something else of being a prostitute. I hear all the people arguing that he didn't deserve to die, F*** THAT, when you play with drugs, gangs, or prostitution this is what comes with the territory, I bet his own father didn't even shed a tear:oldlol:

[Bladers]

Two wrongs do not make a right.

Lets say there are one million active pimps right now in america pimping underaged parent's girls. And these one million parents murders the pimps. You now have one million dead pimps, two million people (parents) in prison for a long time. (if each parent had atleat three kids) Plus atleast three million kids without a parent, homeless and bankrupt.

What makes you think you would change the moral climate of america? huh? or even improve the kids condition? They would still be morally, spiritually, emotionally, financially, what ever way you look at bankrupt! Even more than before. Their last state is worse than their first.

[CelticBaller]

You're assuming, a dumb ass immature shit for brains 16 year old kid volunteered to have sex with men for money... And even if that is in fact the case, you still don't understand how that is ****ing sick by the Pimp to 'employ' this child? :facepalm
Nice way to describe the child. She left her home, she coulnd't take of herself, and she neded up sucking dick for money. Simple as that, does she deserve to die? no? but shouldn't she face the consequences for her dumb actions? :confusedshrug:

@ Bladers, now that the kind of response a christian should give, take notes Clippersfan

[NuggetsFan]

Raise your daughter better and she won't become a whore.

Raise your son better and he won't get f*cking killed :oldlol:

[YAWN]

Nice way to describe the child. She left her home, she coulnd't take of herself, and she neded up sucking dick for money. Simple as that, does she deserve to die? no? but shouldn't she face the consequences for her dumb actions? :confusedshrug:


she is just a kid. lets face it, the overall majority of 16/17 year olds are ****ing morons who don't know any better. But you think a 16 year old girl, who is so messed up she ran away from home, is mature enough to consciously make the decision to **** old men for cash?

[LamarOdom]

However you twist and turn the pimp did wrong, he took advantage of a minor and sold her for money.

I'm not mouring over his dead and if I saw his grave I would gladly vandalize it, fuccin scum.

[Clippersfan86]

Raise your son better and he won't get f*cking killed :oldlol:

:applause:

[step_back]

People have to be held accountable for their own actions. I don't think the guy deserved to be killed but you have to accept that if you're going to be making a living out of prostituting minors a certain degree of danger comes with it. If he chose not to go down the path of being a pimp he would still be here.

In a nutshell make your money the legal way.

[JMT]

As I said before... you guys are being judgmental about this but I'm 100 percent sure most of you in this scenario would THINK these things. The difference is you'd be too scared to act on them.

So they're being judgmental...but it's reasonable for you to say you're "100% sure" of how they'd behave. Pot, calling kettle. Come in, kettle.

Vigilante "justice" is a term used to try and excuse premeditated murder. If we can decide individually whether our situation merits stepping outside the law, all we have is anarchy.

[JMT]

People have to be held accountable for their own actions. I don't think the guy deserved to be killed but you have to accept that if you're going to be making a living out of prostituting minors a certain degree of danger comes with it. If he chose not to go down the path of being a pimp he would still be here.


Applies to both the pimp and the murderous parents.

[Turkododo]

I'm not suggesting any of us go vigilante randomly. I'm just seeing it from the perspective of a hurting parent. I know I would pull the trigger without thinking about it.. and would probably shoot him 5 more times on the floor. I have a very dark side that I've battled with my entire life.

It only comes out when it needs to... and it would take something EXTREME like this to bring it out. Anybody hurting my friends, future kids, girlfriend. Anybody beating up a homeless person, innocent animal, elderly or disabled person. All of these scenarios are death sentences from me.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GsdQt9jYJLQ/TtgMIRMM5zI/AAAAAAAABzw/rx3iiUfmG_c/s1600/dexter5.jpg

lol

[tomtucker]

Raise your daughter better and she won't become a whore.


:applause:

[Clippersfan86]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GsdQt9jYJLQ/TtgMIRMM5zI/AAAAAAAABzw/rx3iiUfmG_c/s1600/dexter5.jpg

lol

HAHAH. Probably why Dexter is one of my favorite shows. I've always felt I can relate to him... difference is I've obviously never killed :D .

[step_back]

Applies to both the pimp and the murderous parents.

yep, certainly does.

[IamSofaKing]

Name of anchor?

[oh the horror]

I fail to see what the problem is here?

[dunksby]

HAHAH. Probably why Dexter is one of my favorite shows. I've always felt I can relate to him... difference is I've obviously never killed :D .
How is that ACL of yours you tore while taking jump shots by yourself?

[Clippersfan86]

How is that ACL of yours you tore while taking jump shots by yourself?

Great. Just did a 2 hour hike yesterday. Thanks for the concern!

[dunksby]

Great. Just did a 2 hour hike yesterday. Thanks for the concern!
Damn it healed faster than an NBA player, did you go to Phoenix? :lol

[Clippersfan86]

Damn it healed faster than an NBA player, did you go to Phoenix? :lol

Remember the update? It was luckily just MCL. I have setbacks here and there but in general progress has been great. Walking, swimming and hiking.