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itsGameTime
06-18-2012, 10:59 PM
Last year, Lebron robbed Wade of the finals MVP against the Mavs. Wade was clearly the front runner for MVP after the first 3 games, but Lebron decided it was better to lose than to not be finals MVP so he folded like a child after Wade yelled at him.

Dwyane Wade was the best player in the series averaging 26.5pts,7rbs and 5.2 asts per game on 54.6% FG shooting. While Lebron averaged a half-assed 17points a game. Wade would have been hoisting up his 2nd finals MVP and started talks of being a top 10 player if Lebron actually showed up. As his teammate, I feel that Wade has been betrayed by Lebron. Jame's huge ego would not even allow Wade to win the finals MVP even if it meant the Heat winning.

10 years from now, people will wrongly label Wade as a sidekick if he allows Lebron's ego to take over this team. As a long time fan of Wade, I think he should consider what's at stake now and take some redemption for last year's finals. Wade deserved every bit of that finals MVP for his legacy, but Lebron did everything in his power for it to not happen in order to protect his own legacy. Wade, take back what was rightfully yours. Let em know what it feels like to walk in your shoes.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
06-18-2012, 11:00 PM
Wade already has one of those.

Besides, winning >>>> fmvp

Apogee
06-18-2012, 11:01 PM
He has already passed the torch and has commented on it a ring is what he wants at this point :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

Velocirap31
06-18-2012, 11:06 PM
This is one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Shame on you OP.

Peteballa
06-18-2012, 11:09 PM
Last year, Lebron robbed Wade of the finals MVP against the Mavs. Wade was clearly the front runner for MVP after the first 3 games, but Lebron decided it was better to lose than to not be finals MVP so he folded like a child after Wade yelled at him.

Dwyane Wade was the best player in the series averaging 26.5pts,7rbs and 5.2 asts per game on 54.6% FG shooting. While Lebron averaged a half-assed 17points a game. Wade would have been hoisting up his 2nd finals MVP and started talks of being a top 10 player if Lebron actually showed up. As his teammate, I feel that Wade has been betrayed by Lebron. Jame's huge ego would not even allow Wade to win the finals MVP even if it meant the Heat winning.

10 years from now, people will wrongly label Wade as a sidekick if he allows Lebron's ego to take over this team. As a long time fan of Wade, I think he should consider what's at stake now and take some redemption for last year's finals. Wade deserved every bit of that finals MVP for his legacy, but Lebron did everything in his power for it to not happen in order to protect his own legacy. Wade, take back what was rightfully yours. Let em know what it feels like to walk in your shoes.


http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/dat%20ass/grand/65405555-dat-ass-.gif

Lakers_Kobe_Fan
06-18-2012, 11:09 PM
I hate lebron but there is no fcuking way wade even has a chance to think about getting that FMVP

Lebron is playing on a whole another level right now

TheFan
06-18-2012, 11:10 PM
uh.. yes... Heats are Lebron's team.

HEAT111
06-18-2012, 11:11 PM
Wade would have won it last season IF they'd have won against Dallas again.

Kblaze8855
06-18-2012, 11:22 PM
The only people who even know or care who won finals MVP are people on online forums at the time.

Even NBA players dont always know who won finals MVPs during their own careers.

I remember one of those TNT gameshows asking trivia questions....the players themselves are barely aware of shit like this.

Im the only one of my friends who would know who won most finals MVPs(I know all of them actually). And they are lal big basketball fans. Winning is what is remembered. Which team won.

Finals MVP isnt even cared about in the day to day.

Its like superbowl MVP almost. Its not always even a great player and you can win it off one or two moments.

Its a big thing on here...big argument issue.

Day to day...nobody cares.

dude77
06-18-2012, 11:29 PM
10 years from now, people will wrongly label Wade as a sidekick if he allows Lebron's ego to take over this team. As a long time fan of Wade, I think he should consider what's at stake now and take some redemption for last year's finals. Wade deserved every bit of that finals MVP for his legacy, but Lebron did everything in his power for it to not happen in order to protect his own legacy. Wade, take back what was rightfully yours. Let em know what it feels like to walk in your shoes.

they may label him inaccurately, but he IS a sidekick now

ripthekik
06-18-2012, 11:33 PM
So by going with what the OP is saying.. Wade should do the same as Lebron and sabotage the team?!

Do what Lebron did last year, just so the Heat would get the ring and Lebron would hoist the FMVP Trophy.

If so, I'd say go for it, Wade. Shoot the ball like crap and chuck the hell out of it! Screw Lebron:cheers:

Grey Dawn
06-18-2012, 11:42 PM
Even if Lebron wasn't playing Wade wouldn't be Finals MVP.

At this point he has been about 70% suck in the series and 90% suck in the playoffs as a whole.

Lebron is 10x better than Wade and has 10x more heart/determination, which is saying a lot since Lebron is known for checking out in 4th qs.

Grey Dawn
06-18-2012, 11:43 PM
This is one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Shame on you OP.

Totally this. End thread.

Brickz187
06-18-2012, 11:50 PM
This is ridiculous to even say. Wades only goal is to win rings. He has been FMVP and won a ring as top dog. All he is trying to do now is help the Heat win more rings and help Lebron win as many as he can. Lebron has taken control and is playing unbelievable. Wade should not feel bad for being a sidekick to a player like Lebron. People don't seem to understand the talent that Wade is a sidekick to. Wade would be a 1st option on every other team in the league except Thunder and Lakers. Wade does what he needs to do to help the Heat. Without Wade, the Heat won't win a ring. He puts in numbers that other "sidekicks" wish they could. Lebron is the best player, he deserves to be the leader of this team. Wade is here for one reason, to back up Lebron and help him become legendary.

SpecialQue
06-18-2012, 11:52 PM
Yes?

Kurosawa0
06-18-2012, 11:55 PM
The only people who even know or care who won finals MVP are people on online forums at the time.

Even NBA players dont always know who won finals MVPs during their own careers.

I remember one of those TNT gameshows asking trivia questions....the players themselves are barely aware of shit like this.

Im the only one of my friends who would know who won most finals MVPs(I know all of them actually). And they are lal big basketball fans. Winning is what is remembered. Which team won.

Finals MVP isnt even cared about in the day to day.

Its like superbowl MVP almost. Its not always even a great player and you can win it off one or two moments.

Its a big thing on here...big argument issue.

Day to day...nobody cares.

Bingo.

FireDavidKahn
06-18-2012, 11:55 PM
Rob him of a FMVP?

Wade has played like complete ass compared to LBJ in the play offs so far.

lilgodfather1
06-18-2012, 11:56 PM
I thought Wade was trying to sabotage the Heat :confusedshrug: 23ppg on 41%. If Wade's hitting his .497 from the regular season the Heat are 3-0 right now.

bmulls
06-18-2012, 11:56 PM
Worst thread on ISH this Finals, and that is saying something

inclinerator
06-18-2012, 11:59 PM
cant u see how hard he's trying and he still falls short of lebron's performances

itsGameTime
06-19-2012, 12:21 AM
Wade already has one of those.

Besides, winning >>>> fmvp

Lebron in the finals last year doesn't think so. :confusedshrug:

All Net
06-19-2012, 12:34 AM
The only people who even know or care who won finals MVP are people on online forums at the time.

Even NBA players dont always know who won finals MVPs during their own careers.

I remember one of those TNT gameshows asking trivia questions....the players themselves are barely aware of shit like this.

Im the only one of my friends who would know who won most finals MVPs(I know all of them actually). And they are lal big basketball fans. Winning is what is remembered. Which team won.

Finals MVP isnt even cared about in the day to day.

Its like superbowl MVP almost. Its not always even a great player and you can win it off one or two moments.

Its a big thing on here...big argument issue.

Day to day...nobody cares.

Same how Tony Parker's finals MVP isn't exactly remembered.

bleedinpurpleTwo
06-19-2012, 12:43 AM
The only people who even know or care who won finals MVP are people on online forums at the time.

Even NBA players dont always know who won finals MVPs during their own careers.

.
absolutely false.

Nevaeh
06-19-2012, 12:57 AM
The only people who even know or care who won finals MVP are people on online forums at the time.

Even NBA players dont always know who won finals MVPs during their own careers.

I remember one of those TNT gameshows asking trivia questions....the players themselves are barely aware of shit like this.

Im the only one of my friends who would know who won most finals MVPs(I know all of them actually). And they are lal big basketball fans. Winning is what is remembered. Which team won.

Finals MVP isnt even cared about in the day to day.

Its like superbowl MVP almost. Its not always even a great player and you can win it off one or two moments.

Its a big thing on here...big argument issue.

Day to day...nobody cares.

Those are what are known as "casuals". If you're on a forum like this, you're a bit more than a casual, and have an understanding of the game beyond simply knowing who won and who lost. That's why "Popular Opinion" on a subject is usually wrong.

"Brittany Spears sold a lot of CDs. That proves she's a great singer".

"Kanye West dropped a Platinum Album. That proves he's one of the Greatest Emcees of All Time".

spacebump
06-19-2012, 01:18 AM
Wade would have won it last season IF they'd have won against Dallas again.
Too bad he was only the second best player in the series.

JohnWall2
06-19-2012, 01:50 AM
wade is so shyt mayne.. 5 TO in 4th yesterday

konex
06-19-2012, 01:53 AM
Wade? He's had like 3 good playoff games overall and a so-so Finals

winnnaz
06-19-2012, 02:21 AM
Game 6 of the NBA finals 2011:

Wade 6/16 for 17 points
LeBron 9/15 for 21 points

:biggums:

Deuce Bigalow
06-19-2012, 02:24 AM
Game 6 of the NBA finals 2011:

Wade 6/16 for 17 points
LeBron 9/15 for 21 points

:biggums:
Game 4 of the 2011 NBA Finals

Wade 13/20 for 32 points
Lebron 3/11 for 8 points

neilio23
06-19-2012, 02:32 AM
This is one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Shame on you OP.

Agreed.

Why can't ISH members keep pointless threads like this off the forum. We all obviously enjoy basketball. So why not discuss interesting and relevant issues and avoid posting junk like this?

winnnaz
06-19-2012, 02:32 AM
Game 4 of the 2011 NBA Finals

Wade 13/20 for 32 points
Lebron 3/11 for 8 points
How is taking half as many shots as Wade an attempt to purposely lose the series so that Wade can't win FMVP? This thread stinks.

HiphopRelated
06-19-2012, 08:07 AM
How is taking half as many shots as Wade an attempt to purposely lose the series so that Wade can't win FMVP? This thread stinks.
The argument was Lebron checked out of the series

How do you think this series would go if Wade woke up today and decided to pass up on shots and not guard Westbrook hard?

HiphopRelated
06-19-2012, 08:09 AM
Wade? He's had like 3 good playoff games overall and a so-so Finals
lol @ this, you don't get only 3 good playoff games and avg 23/5/5

Rake2204
06-19-2012, 08:11 AM
http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/dat%20ass/grand/65405555-dat-ass-.gif
Pretty much a perfect response.

SilkkTheShocker
06-19-2012, 08:13 AM
Wade is the biggest reason they were taken to 6 and 7 games by Pacers and Boston. He has also made some very boneheaded plays with the ball the last two plays. At this point he should be happy the Heat are up 2-1 against the Thunder with his sub-par play these playoffs.

SilkkTheShocker
06-19-2012, 08:16 AM
lol @ this, you don't get only 3 good playoff games and avg 23/5/5
Wade's playoff impact has been a notch above 2011 Finals Lebron. In his defense. he has been a lot more aggressive and has a bad knee. But lets not re-write history here, aside from a few games in the Pacers series, he hasn't been all that. Its been the Lebron Show since the Knicks series.

pauk
06-19-2012, 08:26 AM
What do you mean "sit back"? He has been doing his best this entire year.... Lebron is just... better...

SilkkTheShocker
06-19-2012, 08:31 AM
What do you mean "sit back"? He has been doing his best this entire year.... Lebron is just... better...

Yea, I don't get why people are having a hard time grasping this. Wade basically took the regular season off and hasn't been nearly as good as he was in 2011 when in the Sixers/Celtics/Mavs series. His jumpshot has also been regressing like crazy. I cringe everytime he takes one.

Eat Like A Bosh
06-19-2012, 11:27 AM
The answer is yes

G.O.A.T
06-19-2012, 11:41 AM
Last year, Lebron robbed Wade of the finals MVP against the Mavs. Wade was clearly the front runner for MVP after the first 3 games, but Lebron decided it was better to lose than to not be finals MVP so he folded like a child after Wade yelled at him.

Dwyane Wade was the best player in the series averaging 26.5pts,7rbs and 5.2 asts per game on 54.6% FG shooting. While Lebron averaged a half-assed 17points a game. Wade would have been hoisting up his 2nd finals MVP and started talks of being a top 10 player if Lebron actually showed up. As his teammate, I feel that Wade has been betrayed by Lebron. Jame's huge ego would not even allow Wade to win the finals MVP even if it meant the Heat winning.

10 years from now, people will wrongly label Wade as a sidekick if he allows Lebron's ego to take over this team. As a long time fan of Wade, I think he should consider what's at stake now and take some redemption for last year's finals. Wade deserved every bit of that finals MVP for his legacy, but Lebron did everything in his power for it to not happen in order to protect his own legacy. Wade, take back what was rightfully yours. Let em know what it feels like to walk in your shoes.

Your either delusional, retarded or an asshole.

Dragonyeuw
06-19-2012, 11:50 AM
Wade basically sacrificed his personal legacy in order to join with Lebron and win titles. At this stage it's not a 1a/1b scenario like last season, but a true 1/2 relationship. Very odd for a guy who still should be in the prime of his career to subjugate himself as Wade has for Lebron, but there you have it. It looks like Wade is breaking down though, so having Lebron on the other hand probably extends his career with him not having to carry the entire Heat franchise as he did from 07-10.

G.O.A.T
06-19-2012, 12:01 PM
Wade basically sacrificed his personal legacy in order to join with Lebron and win titles. At this stage it's not a 1a/1b scenario like last season, but a true 1/2 relationship. Very odd for a guy who still should be in the prime of his career to subjugate himself as Wade has for Lebron, but there you have it. It looks like Wade is breaking down though, so having Lebron on the other hand probably extends his career with him not having to carry the entire Heat franchise as he did from 07-10.

I think Wade understood his body was breaking down and that he wasn't durable enough to play the style he is most effective at throughout an entire season and playoffs. As you touched on, from '07-'10 the Heat were barely relevant and while the team wasn't exactly loaded outside of Wade, those were his last peak/prime years and if he couldn't even contend in a playoff series he surely saw that he would need help to contend for a title.

AlphaWolf24
06-19-2012, 12:01 PM
Those are what are known as "casuals". If you're on a forum like this, you're a bit more than a casual, and have an understanding of the game beyond simply knowing who won and who lost. That's why "Popular Opinion" on a subject is usually wrong.

"Brittany Spears sold a lot of CDs. That proves she's a great singer".

"Kanye West dropped a Platinum Album. That proves he's one of the Greatest Emcees of All Time".


that's funny...:oldlol:



- because , nearly all Pro Players/Coaches/GM's have more of a "casual fan" approach....they watch games.

- online fans who "understand" the game....have an elitists point of view.....and try to log on and sound smart.

- Madonna can't sing.....nor can B Spears...but any music producer would give thier left *** so work with them.....they are great Musicians....even if 1% of the fanbase says otherwise:oldlol:

- Acclamation is what determines greatness....not 1% of the community going against the grain.

jrong
06-19-2012, 05:25 PM
I thought Wade was trying to sabotage the Heat :confusedshrug: 23ppg on 41%. If Wade's hitting his .497 from the regular season the Heat are 3-0 right now.

Yeah, 41% is pretty poor shooting in a playoff series-- the only superstars who have been worse in recent years are obscure players with names like James, Bryant, and Rose.

Never seen a guy take so much flack for averaging 23/5/5 in the Finals while helping his team get to the brink of a title, on a knee that's rumored to be going under the knife as soon as the season is over. If LeBron last year had played at anything approaching what Wade is gutting out, the Heat would be going for the repeat.

Derka
06-19-2012, 05:40 PM
To rob him of it would mean that it was his to begin with.

It wasn't.

NumberSix
06-19-2012, 05:57 PM
Who cares about finals mvp? Just win the championship first.

Heilige
06-19-2012, 05:59 PM
The only people who even know or care who won finals MVP are people on online forums at the time.

Even NBA players dont always know who won finals MVPs during their own careers.

I remember one of those TNT gameshows asking trivia questions....the players themselves are barely aware of shit like this.

Im the only one of my friends who would know who won most finals MVPs(I know all of them actually). And they are lal big basketball fans. Winning is what is remembered. Which team won.

Finals MVP isnt even cared about in the day to day.

Its like superbowl MVP almost. Its not always even a great player and you can win it off one or two moments.

Its a big thing on here...big argument issue.

Day to day...nobody cares.


You don't think Kobe or Jordan cared about the Finals MVP? And I am not saying that is a bad thing either. But if you have GOAT aspirations as a player, having a multiple number of Finals MVPs to your name is somthing they think about.

Kblaze8855
06-19-2012, 06:17 PM
I think Kobe and Jordan care about winning. And ive yet to see Kobe downplay his 3 with Shaq because he wasnt the finals MVP. They wat to be known as the best. no doubt they want all the props and respect they can get. and im sure players know when they won such and such award themselves....but nba history never seemed to be a strong subject far as knowing who won this or that. Not when ive seen it come up.

I listened to an interview of Tom Chambers on the series vs the Lakers that they won and he didnt even know how many rings the Lakers had won in the 80s and he played in the west nearly Magics entire career. Ive heard Bruce Bowen get Bill russells number of rings wrong. ever hear Shaq or barkley get asked some random bit of NBA trivia? They know a hell of a lot less than we do.

Everyone knows Jordan won 6 rings...

That aside im not sure most fans know much of anything about the award winners.

It just isnt that big a deal outside places like this where people are crazy about exact rankings and why ___ is over ___.

The average NBA fan doesnt have a clue who Cornbread Maxwell is...they just know Larry Bird won some rings.

rfoster24
06-19-2012, 06:43 PM
Last year, Lebron robbed Wade of the finals MVP against the Mavs. Wade was clearly the front runner for MVP after the first 3 games, but Lebron decided it was better to lose than to not be finals MVP so he folded like a child after Wade yelled at him.

Dwyane Wade was the best player in the series averaging 26.5pts,7rbs and 5.2 asts per game on 54.6% FG shooting. While Lebron averaged a half-assed 17points a game. Wade would have been hoisting up his 2nd finals MVP and started talks of being a top 10 player if Lebron actually showed up. As his teammate, I feel that Wade has been betrayed by Lebron. Jame's huge ego would not even allow Wade to win the finals MVP even if it meant the Heat winning.

10 years from now, people will wrongly label Wade as a sidekick if he allows Lebron's ego to take over this team. As a long time fan of Wade, I think he should consider what's at stake now and take some redemption for last year's finals. Wade deserved every bit of that finals MVP for his legacy, but Lebron did everything in his power for it to not happen in order to protect his own legacy. Wade, take back what was rightfully yours. Let em know what it feels like to walk in your shoes.

go kill yourself now.

Vragrant
06-19-2012, 10:27 PM
Lebron should be on his hands and knees thanking Wade who is about 65-70% of the player is due to his knee this playoffs, is giving him SOMETHING this Finals. Shows how much heart Wade has.

Wade is giving Lebron exponentially more help than he ever gave Wade last year.

That being said, the Thunder are damn lucky that Wade is injured this year though. If he was the player he was healthy and knowing his history in the Finals the Thunder would be in BIG trouble.