NBA WIF Sim Idea

[LBJ 4 MVP]

Been off the forum for a little bit. Thinking of putting together a sim league for something like another professional basketball league coming in during the lockout back at the beginning of the decade. The IHBA is formed, and 16 of the NBA's own teams leave the NBA to come to our brand.

Unlikely, but let's run with it for basketball reasons. So I picked 16 teams I thought would leave to come for us, and I'm going to be using those 16 teams to sim with. Those teams are:

Charlotte Hornets
Cleveland Cavaliers
Denver Nuggets
Detroit Pistons
Golden State Warriors
Indiana Pacers
Los Angeles Clippers
Sacramento Kings
Milwaukee Bucks
New York Knicks
Orlando Magic
Philadelphia 76ers
Portland Trail Blazers
Seattle SuperSonics
Toronto Raptors
Vancouver Grizzlies

GMs:
LBJ 4 MVP
iamgine
Maniak
IGotACoolStory
Lebron23
Timmy D for MVP
Boston C's
WillyJakk

Now, using the players off their 00-01 roster (Wanna be a season ahead so we can catch that rookie class in here) we can do an expansion/fantasy draft with these 16 teams using all players from the 00-01 season, and end up simming it like a real season. Maybe just a 50 game season or something.

I'm going to be simming it on whatifsports which is actually pretty accurate from what I've seen in my past experiences. What whatifsports does is sim's based on that players performance any given year, so if a player had a good year shooting in 04 and a bad year in 05, same thing's probably going to happen here. Each game is individually simmed and has a detailed play-by-play that can be seen.

I'm not quite sure what to do about free agency and trades and stuff, but we'll get to that bridge when we cross it. I was wondering, what do you guys think? Would anyone want to draft a team and sim it? I would keep stats and all that, got the whole decade of players to work with. I won't be simming every day, it will be a laid back type of thing, every second day or so. Definitely nothing serious, just an idea I had in my head.

I was thinking up to 16 players, and then we'd pull off our expansion draft, remember you'd be drafting based on how their career went from 00-01 on.

Here's a list of the players we would be drafting (checked it out, enough for 12-13 man rosters):

G Bobby Jackson
G Ray Allen
G Quentin Richardson
G David Wesley
G Trajan Langdon
G Alvin Williams
G Chucky Atkins
G Larry Robinson
G Andre Miller
G Baron Davis
G Eldridge Recasner
G Cory Alexander
G Damon Stoudamire
G Tracy McGrady
G Shammond Williams
G Emmanuel Davis
G Allan Houston
G Keyon Dooling
G Wesley Person
G Paul McPherson
G Mike Bibby
G Tracey Augmon
G Mateen Cleaves
G Bimbo Coles
G Reggie Miller
G Doug Overton
G Rod Strickland
G Jeff McInnis
G Elliott Perry
G Charlie Ward
G Voshon Lenard
G Greg Anthony
G Anthony Johnson
G Mookie Blaylock
G Rodney Buford
G Darrell Armstrong
G Bob Sura
G Nick Van Exel
G Chris Childs
G Robert Pack
G Eric Piatkowski
G Rafer Alston
G Eric Snow
G Anthony Goldwire
G Tariq Abdul-Wahad
G Dell Curry
G Vernon Maxwell
G Dana Barros
G Lindsey Hunter
G Hersey Hawkins
G Tyrone Nesby
G Gary Payton
G Rick Brunson
G Tyus Edney
G Sam Cassell
G Troy Hudson
G Steve Smith
G Mark Jackson
G Kevin Ollie
G Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf
G John Barry
G Allen Iverson
G Vinny Del Negro
G Erick Strickland
G Travis Best
G Larry Hughes
G Brevin Knight
G Jason Williams
G Damon Jones
G/F Doug Christie
G/F Jerry Stackhouse
G/F Brent Barry
G/F Desmond Mason
G/F Michael Curry
G/F Morris Peterson
G/F Michael Dickerson
G/F Aaron McKie
F Jerome Kersey
F Chris Porter
F Cedric Ceballos
F Ruben Patterson
F Shareef Abdur-Rahim
F Otis Thorpe
F Derek Strong
F Tracy Murray
F Shawn Kemp
F Charles Oakley
F Darius Miles
F Lamond Murray
F Lamar Odom
F Corie Blount
F Tim Thomas
F Bonzi Wells
F George McCloud
F Danny Fortson
F Mark Pope
F John Wallace
F Rasheed Wallace
F Corey Maggette
F Detlef Schrempf
F Lawrence Funderburke
F Eddie Robinson
F Ruben Wolkowyski
F Monty Williams
F Clarence Weatherspoon
F Rashard Lewis
F Toni Kukoc
F David Kornel
F Scottie Pippen
F Jalen Rose
F Jud Beuchler
F Jonathan Bender
F Al Harrington
F Antawn Jamison
F Peja Stojakovic
F Don Reid
F Grant Long
F Sam Perkins
F Lee Nailon
F Jamal Mashburn
F Mike Miller
F Chris Mills
F Corliss Williamson
F Larry Johnson
F Ryan Bowen
F Chris Gatling
F Jerome Williams
F Chris Mullin
F Derrick Coleman
F Matt Harpring
F Glen Rice
F Roshown McLeod
F Jumaine Jones
F Hedo Turkoglu
F Darvin Ham
F Glenn Robinson
F Scott Williams
F Jim Jackson
F Chucky Brown
F Latrell Sprewell
F Mark Strickland
F Cedric Henderson
F Pat Garrity
F James Posey
F Stromile Swift
F Terry Davis
F Derrick McKey
F Tony Massenburg
F/C Chris Webber
F/C Billy Owens
F/C Austin Croshere
F/C Jason Caffey
F/C Jermaine O'Neal
F/C Bo Outlaw
F/C Keon Clark
F/C Antonio McDyess
F/C Elden Campbell
F/C Tyrone Hill
F/C Kurt Thomas
F/C Brian Skinner
C Isaac Austin
C Chris Mihm
C Dale Davis
C Raef Lafrentz
C Patrick Ewing
C Mikki Moore
C John Amaechi
C Travis Knight
C P.J. Brown
C Michael Olowokandi
C Bryant Reeves
C Ervin Johnson
C Jelani McCoy
C Joel Przybilla
C Ben Wallace
C Sean Rooks
C Zan Tabak
C Marcus Camby
C Vlade Divac
C Othella Harrington
C Theo Ratliff
C Eric Montross
C Jamaal Magloire
C Olumide Oyedeji
C Matt Geiger
C Kevin Willis
C Jeff Foster
C Todd Macculloch
C Marc Jackson
C Dikembe Mutombo
C Adonal Foyle
C Michael Doleac
C Cherokee Parks
C Scot Pollard
C Erick Dampier
C Robert Traylor
C Andrew Declercq
C Arvydas Sabonis
C Luc Longley
C Zydrunas Ilgauskas

I'm going out for a couple hours, leave any questions/concerns/comments/suggestions here.

[iamgine]

I'd be down for it

[LBJ 4 MVP]

I'd be down for it
Good to know. Pick a team location and name, and I'll throw you in the league. :cheers:

[LBJ 4 MVP]

This is an idea I've been behind for a while now, just putting the initiative forth now. If we can get some interest, I'd like to keep this going for a while. I could get a draft going each season, playoff tournament, and figure out a way to do free agency and stuff for the offseasons.

It wouldn't be too time demanding, I won't be strict on time limits and simming schedules and stuff. But I will be here multiple times a day and always updating stats and stuff.

[iamgine]

Seattle SuperSonics

interested to see how this works out.

[T-Time3]

geezus am i on a time machine to year 1998 ?

[LBJ 4 MVP]

geezus am i on a time machine to year 1998 ?
That's the premise, yeah, well 2000 to be exact.

If there's no interest here soon, I'll probably just have to shut this down, maybe try another time.

[Maniak]

i'd obviously play.

[IGotACoolStory]

I want in if you are doing this.

[GOBB_Junior]

I want to join.

[PickernRoller]

Banned and already on a back-up account? :facepalm

[Timmy D for MVP]

Intrigued if this takes off. I'd be down.

[iamgine]

Intrigued if this takes off. I'd be down.
Definitely better than many ideas we've had in the past :lol

[LBJ 4 MVP]

Well, we have six down it looks like. 10 more and I'd be glad to get this going. Anyone else?

[Boston C's]

I'm in...anyway i can be the supersonics instead...also what yr will we be doing

nvm forgot to read o.p...01 was a good yr... def wanna do this

[iamgine]

Well, we have six down it looks like. 10 more and I'd be glad to get this going. Anyone else?
you can pm these people:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=162429

[WillyJakk]

I'm down for something new, just explain it a lil' more (plus I'll re-read op) and I'll do it.

Nm, re-read op, I'm w/ it.

[LBJ 4 MVP]

you can pm these people:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=162429

Thanks, I'll get on that.


I'm down for something new, just explain it a lil' more (plus I'll re-read op) and I'll do it.

Nm, re-read op, I'm w/ it.

It's a work in progress, I have everything figured out as far as the whole first season goes, but the offseason will be a little tricky seeing as how same players don't play certain years due to injury or suspension or whatnot and free agency, drafts, retirees and whatnot are going to be something I'll have to work out as we go.

[WillyJakk]

It's a work in progress, I have everything figured out as far as the whole first season goes, but the offseason will be a little tricky seeing as how same players don't play certain years due to injury or suspension or whatnot and free agency, drafts, retirees and whatnot are going to be something I'll have to work out as we go.

Cool, sounds interesting, it'll be something new for me.

Btw, I'd like to run the Orlando Magic if possible.

[iamgine]

Lets go with the people we have :rockon:

[LBJ 4 MVP]

Lets go with the people we have :rockon:
I would, but what would we do with the remaining eight teams? Randomize them? I would not want superteams going down or anything so we can't just eliminate them out of the league. :lol

[JtotheIzzo]

Glove is the WIF GOAT.

[Maniak]

Glove is the WIF GOAT.
True.

[MisterAmazing]

could i get in on this?

[iamgine]

I would, but what would we do with the remaining eight teams? Randomize them? I would not want superteams going down or anything so we can't just eliminate them out of the league. :lol
We can just reduce the players pool in half.

[iamgine]

Glove is the WIF GOAT.
amen to that :rockon:

[IGotACoolStory]

Is this happening in half?

[KobesFinger]

Can I get in as Orlando if it isn't already taken?

[MisterAmazing]

76ers or Warriors if still open spots please :D

[LBJ 4 MVP]

If we go 8 GM's, what 8 teams should we bring in/take out?

Charlotte Hornets
Cleveland Cavaliers
Denver Nuggets
Detroit Pistons
Golden State Warriors
Indiana Pacers
Los Angeles Clippers
Sacramento Kings
Milwaukee Bucks
New York Knicks
Orlando Magic
Philadelphia 76ers
Portland Trail Blazers
Seattle SuperSonics
Toronto Raptors
Vancouver Grizzlies

Keep the bolded? I believe those teams had the best talent to choose from.

[iamgine]

If we go 8 GM's, what 8 teams should we bring in/take out?

Charlotte Hornets
Cleveland Cavaliers
Denver Nuggets
Detroit Pistons
Golden State Warriors
Indiana Pacers
Los Angeles Clippers
Sacramento Kings
Milwaukee Bucks
New York Knicks
Orlando Magic
Philadelphia 76ers
Portland Trail Blazers
Seattle SuperSonics
Toronto Raptors
Vancouver Grizzlies

Keep the bolded? I believe those teams had the best talent to choose from.
How about keep whatever teams each of the 8 GMs chooses?

[Maniak]

I would like to be the Vancouver Grizzlies, and if not possible, the Toronto Raptors.

We are just drafting out of the player pool and the team we pick is purely the name?

[LBJ 4 MVP]

I would like to be the Vancouver Grizzlies, and if not possible, the Toronto Raptors.

We are just drafting out of the player pool and the team we pick is purely the name?

That's a good idea, I was going to shorten the player pool from players from the 16 teams now to the 8 teams we would have to make it more accurate, as in only players from the teams we GM would be available. But it might be better to keep the original player pool intact, so we can get a higher amount of talent.

[LBJ 4 MVP]

Everybody that wants to be a GM, post which team you want. You can move the team, if you would like, to any of these locations(taken from list of arenas not currently used on WIF):

Cincinatti (Ohio)
Baltimore (Maryland)
Louisville (Kentucky)
Oklahoma City (Oklahoma)
St. Louis (Missouri)
Buffalo (New York)
San Diego (California)
San Francisco (California)
Hartford (Connecticut/New England)


You can also change the team name, if you so wish.

[Maniak]

Alright I'll take the Grizzlies then.

[iamgine]

Seattle Supersonics

[IGotACoolStory]

Kings and I will move them to San Diego!

[KobesFinger]

Orlando Magic in Baltimore, as the Baltimore Bullets

[Maniak]

Orlando Magic in Baltimore, as the Baltimore Bullets
You're not going to be in the league.

You have 2 posts and both of them are in this thread.

[LBJ 4 MVP]

Orlando Magic in Baltimore, as the Baltimore Bullets
You just joined and have two posts, but I'll give you a shot for the hell of it. We have:


Baltimore Bullets (from Orlando) - KobesFinger
Cleveland Cavaliers - LBJ 4 MVP
San Diego Kings (from Sacramento) - IGotACoolStory
San Francisco Warriors (from Golden State) - MisterAmazing
Seattle Supersonics - iamgine
Toronto Raptors - Twiens
Vancouver Grizzlies - Maniak

...so far. We'll probably start the draft soon, depends when we get everybody's team set up.

[LBJ 4 MVP]

You're not going to be in the league.

You have 2 posts and both of them are in this thread.
If he slows down the draft severely or isn't active early, we can boot him. I'll give him a shot though.

[Maniak]

Fine.

[IGotACoolStory]

I agree. He only has two posts now because Jeff is a dick who didn't activate accounts for months.

Not like we have a full league right now anyway.

[MisterAmazing]

if I could get in on this I'll take the Warriors and move them to San Francisco.

If not then thats fine.

[LBJ 4 MVP]

if I could get in on this I'll take the Warriors and move them to San Francisco.

If not then thats fine.
As long as you're active, you're in.

[Twiens]

im down

[LBJ 4 MVP]

im down

Pick a team:
Charlotte Hornets
Denver Nuggets
Detroit Pistons
Indiana Pacers
Los Angeles Clippers
Milwaukee Bucks
New York Knicks
Philadelphia 76ers
Portland Trail Blazers
Toronto Raptors

And you have the option to move the team and/or change the name. Here's where we can relocate:


Cincinatti (Ohio)
Louisville (Kentucky)
Oklahoma City (Oklahoma)
St. Louis (Missouri)
Buffalo (New York)
Hartford (Connecticut/New England)

Glad to have you join up.

[Twiens]

Meh Ill take the Raps

[WillyJakk]

Actually I requested the Magic before the other guy.

I'd like to keep them and NOT move the team, thank you that is all for now.

[Timmy D for MVP]

I'd like the 76'ers, and I'll keep them in Philly.

[LBJ 4 MVP]

So we've got:

Baltimore Bullets - KobesFinger
Cleveland Cavaliers - LBJ 4 MVP
Orlando Magic - WillyJakk
Philadelphia 76ers - Timmy D for MVP
San Diego Kings - IGotACoolStory
San Francisco Warriors - MisterAmazing
Seattle Supersonics - iamgine
Toronto Raptors - Twiens
Vancouver Grizzlies - Maniak

What do you guys think of starting with 9? I'll leave this open for a couple more hours, see if we can get an even number of teams.

[WillyJakk]

I'm cool with whatever the consensus is, if you guys wanna start w 9 that's fine.

Btw, how will draft order be determined and will it be serpent draft?

[LBJ 4 MVP]

I'm cool with whatever the consensus is, if you guys wanna start w 9 that's fine.

Btw, how will draft order be determined and will it be serpent draft?
Yeah, snake draft and it will be randomized. I'll start up a seperate thread for the league either tonight or early tomorrow and we'll get the draft all set up in there.

[iamgine]

bump

[Lebron23]

Give me the Miami Heat.

[Toizumi]

I would like to join. Toizumi - Portland Trailblazers.

[LBJ 4 MVP]

I would like to join. Toizumi - Portland Trailblazers.
Saw that just in time, got you in the league. Here is the draft thread everybody:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=269653

[Raz]

I'll take the Celtics