PDA

View Full Version : Questionable call count...



tastystaci
06-21-2012, 09:00 PM
After watching game 4, there's no doubt in my mind that this is an '06 finals situation. After game 2 and 3 I had some doubts. I mean the Heat got the benefit, but it wasn't anything compared to game 4. It is my opinion that Stern DOES NOT want this going back to OKC, with that crowd. He wants to end this thing tonight. I'm gonna keep tally, as honest as I can. I really hope it is even, or even close to even, but I of course have my doubts. Here's how I'm gonna score it.

1 pt awarded if a team gets a 50/50 call. It's questionable. Could go either way.

2 pts awarded if a team gets a ridiculous call. Type of call that makes fans throw their hands up in disgust. Type of call that makes the commentators speak out against it. A Joey Crawford special.

RazorBaLade
06-21-2012, 09:01 PM
Hang around the game thread instead of just putting your own opinion, theres usually 1-2 pages of disgust and that way it removes personal bias.. If people are freaking out about a call in the game thread, 2 points.

Granted, no one is going to see this thread if heat win because this site will explode.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 09:03 PM
Hang around the game thread instead of just putting your own opinion, theres usually 1-2 pages of disgust and that way it removes personal bias.. If people are freaking out about a call in the game thread, 2 points.

Granted, no one is going to see this thread if heat win because this site will explode.

I really don't wanna go back and forth between threads. I'll be honest with this thing. I really don't have an agenda. I can/will admit if I'm wrong. I would love to be wrong. But appreciate the advice.

AngelEyes
06-21-2012, 09:03 PM
It's more a matter of people letting their personal bias cloud their judgement. There have been blown calls like every playoff game, but nothing that should suggest a conspiracy. Completely ridiculous and shows what little integrity many of you have. I have absolutely no dog in this fight, I don't give a shit who wins and I absolutely don't see what some of you are seeing. I do think you're doing your best to try and discredit a player you dislike.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 09:06 PM
It's more a matter of people letting their personal bias cloud their judgement. There have been blown calls like every playoff game, but nothing that should suggest a conspiracy. Completely ridiculous and shows what little integrity many of you have.

I have money on the Heat. I see what I see and it disgusts me, regardless if I benefit financially. The fact that others can't see it allows it to happen IMO.

AngelEyes
06-21-2012, 09:07 PM
I have money on the Heat. I see what I see and it disgusts me, regardless if I benefit financially. The fact that others can't see it allows it to happen IMO.

I think you're lying.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 09:08 PM
First questionable. Perkins dunk attempt

Heat 1 Thunder 0

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 09:09 PM
Questionable block on Bosh

Heat 1 Thunder 1

Blue&Orange
06-21-2012, 09:10 PM
I predict final result of 326-5 for heat

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 09:16 PM
Was about to Wesbrook drive on questionable, but bosh got him on the elbow.

AngelEyes
06-21-2012, 09:16 PM
That was some foul on that Westbrook drive...may have gotten him with a fingernail.

imdaman99
06-21-2012, 09:17 PM
was that a questionable call on chalmers drive? i didnt see durant hit him

AngelEyes
06-21-2012, 09:18 PM
Was about to Wesbrook drive on questionable, but bosh got him on the elbow.

Now I'm convinced you're a liar and are biased as hell. That call was as questionable as the supposedly questionable calls against the Thunder in the previous games.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 09:19 PM
I think you're lying.

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh503/ballsdeeptshirts/bet.jpg

imdaman99
06-21-2012, 09:19 PM
how was that a foul on sefolosha?

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 09:19 PM
Questionable and 1 there for Lebron.

Heat 2 Thunder 1

imdaman99
06-21-2012, 09:20 PM
Another questionable And 1 against the thunder. Lets go Refs :banana:

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 09:21 PM
Another questionable and 1. Ibaka straight up, Lebron forcing contact.

Heat 3 Thunder 1

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 09:23 PM
I want to put that Harden play under questionable, escpecially with those back to back and 1's with no/minimal contact. But I'll resist. He leaned in.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 09:27 PM
Was gonna put Bosh layup under questionable. But minimal contact. Good no call

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 09:28 PM
Side note. Kendrick Perkins is an absolute bum. Scotty Brooks should get fired for playing him more than 10 minutes tonight.

Clippersfan86
06-21-2012, 09:29 PM
Don't forget the 3 flops by Westbrook in which he got possession once and 4 free throws.

PJR
06-21-2012, 09:29 PM
Get a life loser lol.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 09:31 PM
Don't forget the 3 flops by Westbrook in which he got possession once and 4 free throws.

That one looked questionable. Slow mo showed Bosh hit him on the elbow. It was a legit foul

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 09:36 PM
Was gonna put that Harden charge under questionable, but slow mo showed cole got there. Good call.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 09:40 PM
1st Quarter Questionable Call Analysis.

Heat 3 Thunder 1

Nothing too lopsided. Back to back touch fouls for AND1's for Lebron only difference in calls so far. Heat playing well. Thunder lucky to be down only 5.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 09:43 PM
Questionable And 1 for Westbrook

Heat 3 Thunder 2

NuggetsFan
06-21-2012, 09:44 PM
Thread proves my entire point of these finals. These calls aren't that questionable. Sure some of them could go either way but that's just basketball in general.

If your complaining about LeBron's AND1 you'll never be satisfied. Period.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 09:44 PM
I'm calling that questionable charge on Durant because superstar should never get that call aginast them.

Heat 4 Thunder 2

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 09:45 PM
Thread proves my entire point of these finals. These calls aren't that questionable. Sure some of them could go either way but that's just basketball in general.

If your complaining about LeBron's AND1 you'll never be satisfied. Period.

I'm calling it questionable. Just like I called Westbrook's last and 1 questionable. They all were.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 09:46 PM
Questionable call on Lebron. Harden flopped.

Heat 4 Thunder 3

NumberSix
06-21-2012, 09:46 PM
Obvious flop on Harden

AngelEyes
06-21-2012, 09:46 PM
Questionable call on Lebron James, complete flop by Harden as usual.

NuggetsFan
06-21-2012, 09:46 PM
Harden flop??

I guess I just don't believe any of those are questionable. Whatever, do you thing :lol

Clippersfan86
06-21-2012, 09:47 PM
Harden just flopped hardcore.

BigTicket
06-21-2012, 09:47 PM
Obvious flop by Harden.

imdaman99
06-21-2012, 09:47 PM
lack of cylinder call on the heat

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 09:48 PM
Questionable call on Lebron. Harden flopped.

Heat 4 Thunder 3

Jesus. You have to give me second to update. I literally got mine in before three of you.

Milton
06-21-2012, 09:48 PM
I think the Harden one was fine, he flopped but it was still a foul Lebron hit him.

AngelEyes
06-21-2012, 09:48 PM
I'm calling that questionable charge on Durant because superstar should never get that call aginast them.

Heat 4 Thunder 2

So Durant should be allowed to lower his shoulder into the defender?

NuggetsFan
06-21-2012, 09:48 PM
Harden play defines how hard it is to ref. If players like him and Wade are constantly trying to trick you like that there's going to be tons of blown calls. Next time he drives and acts like he just got hit maybe the ref in the .5 seconds he has to make the call see's it as a flop again?

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 09:49 PM
lack of cylinder call on the heat

Replay showed Wade got it outside of cylinder. Even though Haslem might of got some rim afterward. Good no call.

AngelEyes
06-21-2012, 09:49 PM
I think the Harden one was fine, he flopped but it was still a foul Lebron hit him.

No referee calls that if Harden doesn't whip his head back violently... and no referee should call it... complete and utter flop. Harden is an awesome player to watch when he's not making an ass out of himself flopping all over the place.

PJR
06-21-2012, 09:49 PM
lack of cylinder call on the heat

Um no. Get your eyes checked.

NuggetsFan
06-21-2012, 09:50 PM
lack of cylinder call on the heat

My god :oldlol:

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 09:50 PM
So Durant should be allowed to lower his shoulder into the defender?

No player should. It's questionable because it Durant. Both commentators stated it was close. It's at least questionable. I don't believe for a second that Lebron or even Wade get the call against them

AngelEyes
06-21-2012, 09:52 PM
No player should. It's questionable because it Durant. Both commentators stated it was close. It's at least questionable. I don't believe for a second that Lebron or even Wade get the call against them

No, but James gets an obvious flop by Harden called against him.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 09:53 PM
Questionable block on Durant. Durant never complains.

Heat 5 Thunder 3

NuggetsFan
06-21-2012, 09:54 PM
No player should. It's questionable because it Durant. Both commentators stated it was close. It's at least questionable. I don't believe for a second that Lebron or even Wade get the call against them

Seriously? I was actually kinda interested in how this thing turns out. If your just going to call things questionable because in your opinion one player would have got the call kinda ruins it, no?

NuggetsFan
06-21-2012, 09:55 PM
Questionable block on Durant. Durant never complains.

Heat 5 Thunder 3

What about that Mike Miller foul? Harden seems aloud to use the same force while trying to deny LeBron. Seemed like a random "questionable" call right?

04mzwach
06-21-2012, 09:55 PM
Seriously? I was actually kinda interested in how this thing turns out. If your just going to call things questionable because in your opinion one player would have got the call kinda ruins it, no?
Make your own total off of his so it makes you happy.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 09:56 PM
Seriously? I was actually kinda interested in how this thing turns out. If your just going to call things questionable because in your opinion one player would have got the call kinda ruins it, no?

Questionable is a 50/50 play. BOTH commentators stated it was very close. JVG said he would prefer a no call there. YES, it's very questionable. ECSPECIALLY because it's the second best player in the league picking up his second foul.

NumberSix
06-21-2012, 09:56 PM
The count is questionable so far

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 09:57 PM
Make your own total off of hers so it makes you happy.

Just to clarify, my ex gf made my account for me as a joke. I was just too lazy to make my own. :roll:

NuggetsFan
06-21-2012, 09:58 PM
Make your own total off of hers so it makes you happy.

Nah. Far too much effort and I hate both teams so don't really care. You just already know OKC is going to be giving alot more leeway than Miami with calls with alot of people because everybody hates them so much.

Just saying reasoning seems pretty stupid, right? It's not just me? Saying a call is questionable because Durant got called for a charge and you don't think LeBron would when he just got called for an offensive foul like 3 seconds before? Nobody see's how crazy that is? :lol

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 09:59 PM
Nah. Far too much effort and I hate both teams so don't really care. You just already know OKC is going to be giving alot more leeway than Miami with calls with alot of people because everybody hates them so much.

Just saying reasoning seems pretty stupid, right? It's not just me? Saying a call is questionable because Durant got called for a charge and you don't think LeBron would when he just got called for an offensive foul like 3 seconds before? Nobody see's how crazy that is? :lol

Replay shows Perkins with forearm into Lebron. That was more of an and 1 than his other 2

Heat 5 THunder 4

Clippersfan86
06-21-2012, 10:00 PM
Another Harden flop. Clean strip.

NuggetsFan
06-21-2012, 10:00 PM
Replay shows Perkins with forearm into Lebron. That was more of an and 1 than his other 2

Heat 5 THunder 4

See I thought LeBron used his off arm to rap around Harden a little bit. There was two "questionable" calls. Coulda called an offensive foul or a foul by Perkins.

BigTicket
06-21-2012, 10:01 PM
How was that a shooting foul on Harden ?

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 10:01 PM
Nah. Far too much effort and I hate both teams so don't really care. You just already know OKC is going to be giving alot more leeway than Miami with calls with alot of people because everybody hates them so much.

Just saying reasoning seems pretty stupid, right? It's not just me? Saying a call is questionable because Durant got called for a charge and you don't think LeBron would when he just got called for an offensive foul like 3 seconds before? Nobody see's how crazy that is? :lol

Are you kidding me? You seem reasonbly smart. I called that foul on Lebron questionable when Harden flopped. BOTH commentators said that charge on Durant was very close. That instantly make it questionable. Give me an F'n break.

04mzwach
06-21-2012, 10:03 PM
That should have been a no call ...bad call on Wade

AngelEyes
06-21-2012, 10:03 PM
Horrible foul call against Dwyane Wade.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 10:03 PM
Questionable call on Wade. Loose ball

Heat 5 Thunder 5

NumberSix
06-21-2012, 10:03 PM
What a ****ing absurd call.

LamarOdom
06-21-2012, 10:03 PM
lol wut? Wade was first.

Clippersfan86
06-21-2012, 10:04 PM
Another bogus call for Thunder lmao.

NumberSix
06-21-2012, 10:05 PM
BLATANT harden flop

04mzwach
06-21-2012, 10:05 PM
Harden flop, bad call

AngelEyes
06-21-2012, 10:05 PM
Another Harden flop. Does he ever not flop?

liquidrage
06-21-2012, 10:05 PM
I don't care what the call is.

The teams are called differently. Miami can slide under OKC defenders and get fouls called. OKC can't. Both teams are getting flopped calls right now. Mostly because OKC is flopping now too.

NuggetsFan
06-21-2012, 10:05 PM
If you want to nitpick .. start looking at screens. Guy's are moving while setting them. Is the no call on Durant where he just plowed somebody over questionable? Miami got the steal but that could be a charge IMO. If you want to nitpick of course.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 10:05 PM
Harden flop.

Heat 5 Thunder 6

04mzwach
06-21-2012, 10:06 PM
I don't think the refs will favor the Heat in an elimination game. It would look screwed up. OKC should get enough calls.

NumberSix
06-21-2012, 10:07 PM
OKC CLEARLY getting all the calls right now.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 10:10 PM
I don't think the refs will favor the Heat in an elimination game. It would look screwed up. OKC should get enough calls.

It's been even so far. That could be because the Heat are just playing so well. really, why would they get involved if they didn't have to? I'd like to see this if it was close, or Thunder were even up.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 10:11 PM
Raped across the arm for Westbrook. NOT questionable.

nba_55
06-21-2012, 10:11 PM
There should be an automatic +10 for OKC cuz of all move and screens that Perkins set

NumberSix
06-21-2012, 10:11 PM
OKC have gotten about 8 questionable calls in a row.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 10:13 PM
There should be an automatic +10 for OKC cuz of all move and screens that Perkins set

Good call. Refs aren't gonna let the go for very long.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 10:14 PM
Questionable call count

Heat 5 Thunder 6

NuggetsFan
06-21-2012, 10:14 PM
It's been even so far. That could be because the Heat are just playing so well. really, why would they get involved if they didn't have to? I'd like to see this if it was close, or Thunder were even up.

Things like this make you seem really biased. I guess my question is if the refs have been giving Miami the benefit on purpose why the f*ck don't they seal the deal tonight? If OKC wins tonight it's going back to their insane crowd and putting Miami in a difficult spot.

If that's the case their pretty stupid, need to step their fixing game up.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 10:16 PM
Things like this make you seem really biased. I guess my question is if the refs have been giving Miami the benefit on purpose why the f*ck don't they seal the deal tonight? If OKC wins tonight it's going back to their insane crowd and putting Miami in a difficult spot.

If that's the case their pretty stupid, need to step their fixing game up.

Read my original Post. That's exactly what I THOUGHT would happen. That's why I made the thread. So far, it hasn't. I'm not an idiot, I don't have an agenda, I just hate fixed games/series. Game 4 was one of the worst since the '06 Finals IMO

AngelEyes
06-21-2012, 10:20 PM
Read my original Post. That's exactly what I THOUGHT would happen. That's why I made the thread. So far, it hasn't. I'm not an idiot, I don't have an agenda, I just hate fixed games/series. Game 4 was one of the worst since the '06 Finals IMO

No it wasn't, not even close.

nba_55
06-21-2012, 10:21 PM
Read my original Post. That's exactly what I THOUGHT would happen. That's why I made the thread. So far, it hasn't. I'm not an idiot, I don't have an agenda, I just hate fixed games/series. Game 4 was one of the worst since the '06 Finals IMO

You are certainly biased. OKC doesnt have only 6 questionable calls.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 10:21 PM
No it wasn't, not even close.

No what wasn't? Game 4 wasn't lopsided?

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 10:22 PM
You are certainly biased. OKC doesnt have only 6 questionable calls.

I haven't been biased at all. Why would I have Thunder getting more calls in the first half you troll :oldlol:

tikay0
06-21-2012, 10:22 PM
My goodness, OKc fans sound like a buncha bitches.

AngelEyes
06-21-2012, 10:23 PM
No what wasn't? Game 4 wasn't lopsided?

If you think Miami got more calls, that's fine, but to compare it to 2006 is absolutely absurd.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 10:23 PM
My goodness, OKc fans sound like a buncha bitches.

If you're referring to me, I'm not even a fan of OKC. I'm a Piston fan so I don't know what the f*** your talking about. 90% of the people in here are heat fans.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 10:24 PM
If you think Miami got more calls, that's fine, but to compare it to 2006 is absolutely absurd.

I said the worse SINCE 2006. Nothing compares to '06. That ignited investigations :lol

Velocirap31
06-21-2012, 10:25 PM
If you think Miami got more calls, that's fine, but to compare it to 2006 is absolutely absurd.

This. D Wade had 21/26 free throws and the entire Dallas team had 21/26 free throws. Wade was definitely attacking, but Dallas wasn't allowed to be anywhere near him without getting a foul. It was ridiculous. Most OKC fans probably never saw the '06 finals.

AngelEyes
06-21-2012, 10:26 PM
I said the worse SINCE 2006. Nothing compares to '06. That ignited investigations :lol

*worst

NumberSix
06-21-2012, 10:27 PM
I haven't been biased at all. Why would I have Thunder getting more calls in the first half you troll :oldlol:
James Harden alone has a MINIMUM of 3 flops that were called fouls. 2 shooting, and the one where he pretended LeBron elbowed his beard.

nba_55
06-21-2012, 10:27 PM
I haven't been biased at all. Why would I have Thunder getting more calls in the first half you troll :oldlol:

OKC has atleast 10 questionable calls in their favor.

Also, some of the questionable calls are worth more than other like the one on Wade. Not only it was the worse calls of the series, but it kept Wade out of the game for the last 5 min of the half.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 10:27 PM
*worst


lol. You guys are brutal. Five people calling me out about the first Harden flop that I already scored against the thunder, now spelling corrections? :bowdown:

Chrono90
06-21-2012, 10:28 PM
After watching game 4, there's no doubt in my mind that this is an '06 finals situation. After game 2 and 3 I had some doubts. I mean the Heat got the benefit, but it wasn't anything compared to game 4. It is my opinion that Stern DOES NOT want this going back to OKC, with that crowd. He wants to end this thing tonight. I'm gonna keep tally, as honest as I can. I really hope it is even, or even close to even, but I of course have my doubts. Here's how I'm gonna score it.

1 pt awarded if a team gets a 50/50 call. It's questionable. Could go either way.

2 pts awarded if a team gets a ridiculous call. Type of call that makes fans throw their hands up in disgust. Type of call that makes the commentators speak out against it. A Joey Crawford special.

This series is fixed by the refs.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 10:28 PM
James Harden alone has a MINIMUM of 3 flops that were called fouls. 2 shooting, and the one where he pretended LeBron elbowed his beard.

I have two Harden flops counted as questionable. WTF you talkin' about?

NumberSix
06-21-2012, 10:29 PM
OKC has atleast 10 questionable calls in their favor.

Also, some of the questionable calls are worth more than other like the one on Wade. Not only it was the worse calls of the series, but it kept Wade out of the game for the last 5 min of the half.
Should have been a no call between Wade/Harden, but then Ibaka CLEARLY fouled Wade. That play is 2 calls in OKC's favor.

04mzwach
06-21-2012, 10:29 PM
This series is fixed by the refs.
Watch the refs try to give the game to the Thunder. They're trying to make it so it goes 7 games. They get paid more probably. :pimp:

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 10:30 PM
OKC has atleast 10 questionable calls in their favor.

Also, some of the questionable calls are worth more than other like the one on Wade. Not only it was the worse calls of the series, but it kept Wade out of the game for the last 5 min of the half.

To be honest, when I first saw it I thought it was a good call. It looked like he undercut Harden. But after a replay it obviously should have been a no call. That's why I didn't give it 2 points which is a Joey Crawford special.

NumberSix
06-21-2012, 10:31 PM
Watch the refs try to give the game to the Thunder. They're trying to make it so it goes 7 games. They get paid more probably. :pimp:
Well, they do. Refs are paid $10,000 per playoff game. It might even be more in the finals.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 10:32 PM
Should have been a no call between Wade/Harden, but then Ibaka CLEARLY fouled Wade. That play is 2 calls in OKC's favor.

I marked the Wade foul as questionable. What Ibaka play are you describing?

Velocirap31
06-21-2012, 10:32 PM
Well, they do. Refs are paid $10,000 per playoff game. It might even be more in the finals.

:eek: That would motivate me to be a little biased. Especially since a small circle of refs get to officiate all of the playoffs.

nba_55
06-21-2012, 10:33 PM
To be honest, when I first saw it I thought it was a good call. It looked like he undercut Harden. But after a replay it obviously should have been a no call. That's why I didn't give it 2 points which is a Joey Crawford special.

In your questionable calls, do you have the no call Bosh drive? Perkins clearly hit him.
Also, do you have the foul of Perkins on Lebron s layup ( Where he double clutch) ?

NumberSix
06-21-2012, 10:35 PM
I marked the Wade foul as questionable. What Ibaka play are you describing?
Ibaka clobbered Wade while he was on the ground.

easydoesit
06-21-2012, 10:36 PM
Interesting work. I think you have been pretty fair and objective so far.

The debate around what is and what is not a foul, even after the benefit of slow-mo replay, just shows how hard it is to ref NBA games.

Keep it up!

NumberSix
06-21-2012, 10:36 PM
In your questionable calls, do you have the no call Bosh drive? Perkins clearly hit him.
Also, do you have the foul of Perkins on Lebron s layup ( Where he double clutch) ?
He's giving Miami as little as he can while simultaneously give OKC everything possible.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 10:36 PM
In your questionable calls, do you have the no call Bosh drive? Perkins clearly hit him.
Also, do you have the foul of Perkins on Lebron s layup ( Where he double clutch) ?

I had the Perkins forarm to his stomach when Lebron scored.

Bosh layups were minimal contact. I was about to mark one of them as questionable but slo mo replay showed very little contact. He was doing a little bit of Harden flopping/exaggerating on that one.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 10:38 PM
Interesting work. I think you have been pretty fair and objective so far.

The debate around what is and what is not a foul, even after the benefit of slow-mo replay, just shows how hard it is to ref NBA games.

Keep it up!

Thanks. And I do agree that NBA officiating is very difficult. There is ALWAYS gonna be missed calls. But every missed call seemed to go in the Heats favor. At least games 2-4, with an emphasis on 4

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 10:40 PM
Questionable block on LEbron

Heat 5 Thunder 7

NumberSix
06-21-2012, 10:40 PM
Westbrook gets away with the most obvious foul of all time directly in front of Danny Crawford.

AngelEyes
06-21-2012, 10:41 PM
Westbrook just ran right into James, foul should have been called.

Dolphin
06-21-2012, 10:41 PM
There may be some iffy calls, but the only REALLY bad one was the Wade foul on Harden. I know from a certain angle that may fool the ref and we do have the benefit of replay, but that was so blatant from the angle we were shown. Harden looks down at Wade then falls hip first onto Wade. Classic. lol

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 10:41 PM
He's giving Miami as little as he can while simultaneously give OKC everything possible.

Do you honestly believe that? I mean obviously I don't give a f*ck what you think, but why troll every day of your life? I personally think you have the potential to much more than an internet troll. How bout we give it a try :cheers:

04mzwach
06-21-2012, 10:42 PM
Westbrook just ran right into James, foul should have been called.
Nah. It could have been a foul on James.

PJR
06-21-2012, 10:42 PM
LeBron raped on an attempted trap. No call.

PJR
06-21-2012, 10:42 PM
Nah. It could have been a foul on James.

U have got to be joking

AngelEyes
06-21-2012, 10:43 PM
Nah. It could have been a foul on James.

No, it really couldn't have been.

NumberSix
06-21-2012, 10:43 PM
Do you honestly believe that? I mean obviously I don't give a f*ck what you think, but why troll every day of your life? I personally think you have the potential to much more than an internet troll. How bout we give it a try :cheers:
I'm wating for you to put up Miami 5 Thunder 8 after that westbrook foul

04mzwach
06-21-2012, 10:43 PM
No, it really couldn't have been.
Bron pushed him.

NuggetsFan
06-21-2012, 10:44 PM
Nah. It could have been a foul on James.

Joke? .. Ref shouldn't call it on either player but wow if your serious. James was bringing the ball up the floor :lol

easydoesit
06-21-2012, 10:44 PM
Thanks. And I do agree that NBA officiating is very difficult. There is ALWAYS gonna be missed calls. But every missed call seemed to go in the Heats favor. At least games 2-4, with an emphasis on 4


It's possible that heat got more 50/50 calls than Thunder.

But if you are calling game with a personal foul split of 20-18 obvious bias, I think there might be a bit of confirmation bias (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias) going on.

The confirmation bias might be especially bad with the memory of '06 in your mine.

04mzwach
06-21-2012, 10:45 PM
Joke? .. Ref shouldn't call it on either player but wow if your serious. James was bringing the ball up the floor :lol
I'd go with this, but it could have gone either way.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 10:45 PM
I'm wating for you to put up Miami 5 Thunder 8 after that westbrook foul

Really? I gave the questionable block on Lebron. That Westbrook play had zero effect on anything. One guy even said it could have been offensive foul(obviously I don't agree). Play on. Good no call.

NumberSix
06-21-2012, 10:47 PM
Really? I gave the questionable block on Lebron. That Westbrook play had zero effect on anything. One guy even said it could have been offensive foul(obviously I don't agree). Play on. Good no call.
No, it fits your own definition that you've been using for "questionable". You have no grounds to not count it if you're truly trying to be unbiased.

NuggetsFan
06-21-2012, 10:48 PM
I'd go with this, but it could have gone either way.

How tho? I'm genuinely curious. LeBron bringing the ball up the floor, Westbrook runs into him? Where's the foul on LeBron.

Don't even need to call that on Westbrook but unless I'm missing something that's the only way you can call it :confusedshrug:

nba_55
06-21-2012, 10:48 PM
OKC is getting all the calls and this guy still has it at 5-7 :oldlol:

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 10:49 PM
It's possible that heat got more 50/50 calls than Thunder.

But if you are calling game with a personal foul split of 20-18 obvious bias, I think there might be a bit of confirmation bias (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias) going on.

The confirmation bias might be especially bad with the memory of '06 in your mine.

You guys don't understand the genius of NBA officials. Does a double block goaltend show up in foul stats? NO. Does the obvious foul at the end of game 2 on Durant show up? NO. It's one play. THE MOST IMPORTANT PLAY OF THE SERIES SO FAR. And as far as game 4, EVERY questionable call went there way. Refs kept foul count within 10 by calling meaningless dead ball fouls, etc. I mean Westbrook didn't go to line until his 28th shot! You kidding me. I see what I see. Bottomline.

NumberSix
06-21-2012, 10:49 PM
OKC is getting all the calls and this guy still has it at 5-7 :oldlol:
He's obviously going out of his way to give Miami as little as he can. He's not even counting the obvious Westbrook foul on LeBron.

OP clearly intended this as a "Miami gets all the calls" thread, but it hasn't woked the way he intended.

04mzwach
06-21-2012, 10:52 PM
How tho? I'm genuinely curious. LeBron bringing the ball up the floor, Westbrook runs into him? Where's the foul on LeBron.

Don't even need to call that on Westbrook but unless I'm missing something that's the only way you can call it :confusedshrug:
You really should look at the video.

Clippersfan86
06-21-2012, 10:52 PM
Bad call.

NumberSix
06-21-2012, 10:52 PM
Westbrook gets away with an OBVIOUS charge.

Miami 5, OKC 10

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 10:52 PM
Questionable block on Battier

Heat 5 Thunder 8

AngelEyes
06-21-2012, 10:52 PM
Battier was fouled on that three.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 10:54 PM
Was about to call that questionable on Perkins, but he's a donkey who always puts his forearm into chests. :facepalm

easydoesit
06-21-2012, 10:55 PM
You guys don't understand the genius of NBA officials. Does a double block goaltend show up in foul stats? NO. Does the obvious foul at the end of game 2 on Durant show up? NO. It's one play. THE MOST IMPORTANT PLAY OF THE SERIES SO FAR. And as far as game 4, EVERY questionable call went there way. Refs kept foul count within 10 by calling meaningless dead ball fouls, etc. I mean Westbrook didn't go to line until his 28th shot! You kidding me. I see what I see. Bottomline.

This is confirmation bias. If you start with the premise that that the refs are in on a conspiracy, you are much likely to interpret/see evidence that supports this presupposition.

"People display this bias when they gather or remember information selectively, or when they interpret it in a biased way. The effect is stronger for emotionally charged issues and for deeply entrenched beliefs. "

AngelEyes
06-21-2012, 10:55 PM
Has Harden done anything positive in this series?

Clippersfan86
06-21-2012, 10:56 PM
Thunder have double the free throw attempts and are down 14 :applause: :oldlol: .

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 10:57 PM
Wade hits Westbrook in face. Could have been offensive

Heat 6 Thunder 8

AngelEyes
06-21-2012, 10:57 PM
Has there ever been a 6'1" guard who fouls harder than Fisher? Isiah?

04mzwach
06-21-2012, 10:57 PM
Wade, should look at that one. Probably should of been a call if he hit him in the face.

NumberSix
06-21-2012, 10:57 PM
definitely not a flagrant

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 10:58 PM
Wow. Worst call of game. This is a Joey Crawfor special. Heat get two points for this.

Heat 8 Thunder 8

Clippersfan86
06-21-2012, 10:58 PM
Not a flagrant... still I feel ZERO pity for the Thunder who have been at the line all game long.

NumberSix
06-21-2012, 10:58 PM
Not a flagrant

Heat 6, OKC 10

irondarts
06-21-2012, 10:59 PM
Wow, that was really bad.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 10:59 PM
definitely not a flagrant

First NON troll post. We're making progress. :applause:

AngelEyes
06-21-2012, 11:00 PM
Wow. Worst call of game. This is a Joey Crawfor special. Heat get two points for this.

Heat 8 Thunder 8

It was still a foul and they may have scored on the possession, so I don't know how you can give a mark against Miami.

NumberSix
06-21-2012, 11:00 PM
Wow. Worst call of game. This is a Joey Crawfor special. Heat get two points for this.

Heat 8 Thunder 8
Lol @ this idiot. Why did you go from 6 to 8? :roll:

Heat 6, OKC 10

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 11:00 PM
Not a flagrant... still I feel ZERO pity for the Thunder who have been at the line all game long.

You realize that the Heat are like 10-17 from 3 pt line. How the f*** would they go to the line?

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 11:01 PM
Lol @ this idiot. Why did you go from 6 to 8? :roll:

Heat 6, OKC 10

Read my original post. Two points for aggrecious call. This is the first "no f*ckin way" call of the night. i call it a Joey Crawford special. Two points.

Clippersfan86
06-21-2012, 11:02 PM
You realize that the Heat are like 10-17 from 3 pt line. How the f*** would they go to the line?

How many times has Lebron muscled his way to the rim and finished and not gotten the call? Just happened for literally the 6th time. It's a shame that Lebron, Griffin, Dwight and guys like that who overpower everybody are allowed to get beat up on at the rim with no calls.

NumberSix
06-21-2012, 11:02 PM
Read my original post. Two points for aggrecious call. This is the first "no f*ckin way" call of the night. i call it a Joey Crawford special. Two points.
Obvious agenda is obvious.

Heat 6, OKC 11

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 11:02 PM
definitely not a flagrant

And if it makes you admit a call in Heat favor. You KNOW it's worth two points :lol

NumberSix
06-21-2012, 11:03 PM
KD slapped LeBron's arm on that last drive.

04mzwach
06-21-2012, 11:03 PM
Refs need to do a better job giving OKC calls. No way they'll win like this.

NumberSix
06-21-2012, 11:03 PM
And if it makes you admit a call in Heat favor. You KNOW it's worth two points :lol
1 call is 1 call dipshit. it doesn't count as 2.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 11:03 PM
How many times has Lebron muscled his way to the rim and finished and not gotten the call? Just happened for literally the 6th time. It's a shame that Lebron, Griffin, Dwight and guys like that who overpower everybody are allowed to get beat up on at the rim with no calls.

He created contact. You could literally call foul on every play if that was the case.

04mzwach
06-21-2012, 11:04 PM
Ibaka, wtf. :lol

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 11:04 PM
Questionalble no goaldtend call.

Heat 9 Thunder 8

NumberSix
06-21-2012, 11:04 PM
Miami is unconscious from 3

Clippersfan86
06-21-2012, 11:05 PM
He created contact. You could literally call foul on every play if that was the case.

Westbrook doesn't create contact!? LMAO. He propels himself like a bullet into defenders and ends up at the line 8 out of 10 times.

NumberSix
06-21-2012, 11:05 PM
Questionalble no goaldtend call.

Heat 9 Thunder 8
Heat 6, OKC 11

04mzwach
06-21-2012, 11:06 PM
I think if it's fixed, we'll see it this time. OKC is going to have to get a crazy amount of calls.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 11:06 PM
Westbrook doesn't create contact!? LMAO. He propels himself like a bullet into defenders and ends up at the line 8 out of 10 times.

He does. And no, he doesn't get to line that often. He took 32 shots in game 4 and shot 3 ft's. So gtfo

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 11:08 PM
Flop by Harden on three. Good no call

Droid101
06-21-2012, 11:09 PM
Obvious agenda is obvious.

Heat 6, OKC 11
Your posts are terrible, stop.

AngelEyes
06-21-2012, 11:10 PM
Why is Chalmers such a lazy ass passer?

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 11:10 PM
Questionable call against chalmer. Westbrook to line.

Heat 9 Thunder 9

NumberSix
06-21-2012, 11:11 PM
OP's obvious anti-Heat agenda is obvious.

/Thread

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 11:17 PM
WOw. Mike MIller is on fire.

Side note. Anyone see the official pat Spolstra on chest in congrats on his way by? Extra suspect.

AngelEyes
06-21-2012, 11:17 PM
WOw. Mike MIller is on fire.

Side note. Anyone see the official pat Spolstra on chest in congrats on his way by? Extra suspect.

Comments like that don't help your cause.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 11:20 PM
Comments like that don't help your cause.

I have no cause. If you read through this thread and think i have an agenda then sorry, your a troll like numbersix. I call it how I see it. Obviously this game has been officiated fair. Best officiated game of the series by far with the exception of that horrible flagrant on fisher

kurt_rambis
06-21-2012, 11:26 PM
questionable goaltend on wade riiiiiight???

heat 9 thunder 10

you still doing this?

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 11:27 PM
Goaldtend on Wade. Lebron possible fouled on jumper

Heat 9 Thunder 11

AngelEyes
06-21-2012, 11:29 PM
I have no cause. If you read through this thread and think i have an agenda then sorry, your a troll like numbersix. I call it how I see it. Obviously this game has been officiated fair. Best officiated game of the series by far with the exception of that horrible flagrant on fisher

I'm the furthest thing from a troll, your ****ing cause is you stating there was a conspiracy. Did you not say that you thought there was a bias favoring the Heat? Your cause is to support this angle.

NumberSix
06-21-2012, 11:29 PM
OKC with the refs in their pocket still getting blown out.

kurt_rambis
06-21-2012, 11:29 PM
it's funny, all i'm seeing on twitter and tumblr and shit right now is how this game is so obviously rigged for the heat, all the calls are going miami's way, blahblahblah. people just see what they want

NumberSix
06-21-2012, 11:30 PM
Goaldtend on Wade. Lebron possible fouled on jumper

Heat 9 Thunder 11
You're obvious agenda didn't work for you.

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 11:32 PM
I'm the furthest thing from a troll, your ****ing cause is you stating there was a conspiracy. Did you not say that you thought there was a bias favoring the Heat? Your cause is to support this angle.

I said based on what I saw in game 2-4 with an emphasis on 4 there was an obvious agenda by the officials. If I think that, then obviously stern would wanna close out this series before going back to OKC so I put up the thread. I said early on I was gonna be unbiased in keeping score. I'm not a troll with some agenda. Yes, I hate the heat. I won't deny that. Some of that comes from their battles with the Pistons. Alot of it comes from the '06 finals. And of course, Lebron is great player but a piece of sh*t for leaving his home town high and dry.

kurt_rambis
06-21-2012, 11:33 PM
lebron just got hacked hahahahah

no call!

IGOTGAME
06-21-2012, 11:34 PM
lebron just got hacked hahahahah

no call!

yep

NumberSix
06-21-2012, 11:34 PM
Jesus christ, these refs.

kurt_rambis
06-21-2012, 11:35 PM
collison fouled him again on that first put back attempt lol

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 11:35 PM
Jesus christ, these refs.

You're up 20 and still complaining? You are a rare breed number six. I hafta respect your dedicated trolling. :bowdown:

NumberSix
06-21-2012, 11:36 PM
You're up 20 and still complaining? You are a rare breed number six. I hafta respect your dedicated trolling. :bowdown:
You still keeping count? Lemme guess. Miami got more calls, right? :roll:

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 11:41 PM
Questionable touch foul on Wade. Harden-like flop.

Heat 10 Thunder 11

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 11:44 PM
Questionable no call on the 90 year old Juwan Howard :lol

Heat 10 Thunder 12

04mzwach
06-21-2012, 11:46 PM
Hmm...Lebron looks like a kid. Crazy. :lol

tastystaci
06-21-2012, 11:51 PM
Final Questionable call count...

Heat 10 Thunder 12

Basically an evenly called game with Thunder actually ending with slight lead in amount of questionable calls in their favor. I honestly don't know if it would've been different if the game was close. Heat shot out of their asses so it wasn't very close throughout. Mike Miller hasn't hit a three all series and hits seven tonite :bowdown:

I hate the heat, but congrats Lebron. He's obviously earned it. He's payed the price for many of the bad decisions he's made including "The Decision".