View Full Version : Miami's Starting Center Next Season?
SilkkTheShocker
06-23-2012, 02:13 PM
Im going with Camby
EnoughSaid
06-23-2012, 02:17 PM
If we get Camby. :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: He's the rebounder and defender this team needs.
Meticode
06-23-2012, 02:24 PM
They should definately chase Camby.
In limited time last season with Houston he got 22MPG while getting almost 9 rebounds and over a block per game. He'll probably get similar minutes with Miami and provides much needed rebounding with the team. Not to mention he is capable of knocking down open jumpers if need be. He's no more inept on offense than Anthony is, but is far an above a better rebounder.
IGotACoolStory
06-23-2012, 02:24 PM
Greg Oden
SilkkTheShocker
06-23-2012, 02:26 PM
They should definately chase Camby.
In limited time last season with Houston he got 22MPG while getting almost 9 rebounds and over a block per game. He'll probably get similar minutes with Miami and provides much needed rebounding with the team. Not to mention he is capable of knocking down open jumpers if need be. He's no more inept on offense than Anthony is, but is far an above a better rebounder.
Thanks for the stats, Meticode :cheers:
MeLO MvP 15
06-23-2012, 02:45 PM
It'll be Camby. And he's going to get destroyed by the media and Heat fans.
SilkkTheShocker
06-23-2012, 02:51 PM
It'll be Camby. And he's going to get destroyed by the media and Heat fans.
Why? Does he still do that sh1t where he lets people beat him off the dribble so he can go for the block? :oldlol:
longtime lurker
06-23-2012, 02:51 PM
Why the hell do championship teams always look to get older? The Heat should try and get Spencer Hawes. Legit 7 footer that can block shots, stretches the defense with his shooting, good passer for a big man and works well off the ball. Seems like a good fit.
Mach_3
06-23-2012, 02:51 PM
I'd hate Camby if he went there. That dude will be rebounding double digits until he's 99 years old and still a beast shotblocker. exactly what miami needs :banghead: :banghead:
SilkkTheShocker
06-23-2012, 02:56 PM
Why the hell do championship teams always look to get older? The Heat should try and get Spencer Hawes. Legit 7 footer that can block shots, stretches the defense with his shooting, good passer for a big man and works well off the ball. Seems like a good fit.
Hawes is going to be making much more than the vet minimum. No way can Miami afford him. Even Camby might be a stretch since he is worth more than minimum.
Foster5k
06-23-2012, 02:58 PM
You guys forget. Some of these guys want a ring! Best ticket to get a ring, right now, is joining the Heat.
That's a big incentive.
longtime lurker
06-23-2012, 02:59 PM
Hawes is going to be making much more than the vet minimum. No way can Miami afford him. Even Camby might be a stretch since he is worth more than minimum.
Work out a sign and trade then. Who's going to pay Hawes more than MLE money? And I don't see Camby taking a vet min either. Mini MLE is more probable but maybe there's a playoff team that will give him a good deal.
Any hope for Miami getting Dalembert in a deal with Houston?
boozehound
06-23-2012, 03:02 PM
Bosh :d
yeah, its gonna be bosh. they will have better luck getting a combo forward to put in next to bron like battier did. obviously a better team with that smaller, faster lineup
SilkkTheShocker
06-23-2012, 03:03 PM
Any hope for Miami getting Dalembert in a deal with Houston?
Dalembert would be perfect. Houston would want Bosh though, they are obsessed with acquiring him :oldlol:
D-Wade316
06-23-2012, 03:04 PM
Any hope for Miami getting Dalembert in a deal with Houston?
Hate him. Could have won a championship by now. Instead he chose money.
Pittman.
Kingwillball
06-23-2012, 03:05 PM
Why the hell do championship teams always look to get older? The Heat should try and get Spencer Hawes. Legit 7 footer that can block shots, stretches the defense with his shooting, good passer for a big man and works well off the ball. Seems like a good fit.
Agreed I would look to get Hawes or Kamen.
Kingwillball
06-23-2012, 03:07 PM
Dalembert would be perfect. Houston would want Bosh though, they are obsessed with acquiring him :oldlol:
Kyle Lowry and Dalembert for Bosh.. jk.. keep Chalmers and forget Dally
Kingwillball
06-23-2012, 03:08 PM
yeah, its gonna be bosh. they will have better luck getting a combo forward to put in next to bron like battier did. obviously a better team with that smaller, faster lineup
isn't Battier still with Miami ?
All Net
06-23-2012, 03:35 PM
Ray Allen
Marcus camby
Would be a damn good off season for Miami
Derka
06-23-2012, 03:39 PM
Work out a sign and trade then. Who's going to pay Hawes more than MLE money? And I don't see Camby taking a vet min either. Mini MLE is more probable but maybe there's a playoff team that will give him a good deal.
Just as a point of reference...
Kendrick Perkins is making $8 million next season.
DeAndre Jordan is making $10.5 million next season.
Both of these centers move between "Borderline useless" and "effective once in a while" with relative ease and make a killing. The money that's about to get thrown at Roy Hibbert is going to make people vomit in their mouths. The market for centers in this league is hyper-hyper inflated.
Hawes, Kaman, Camby...all of these guys will command more than $3 freaking million per season with ease. And no one in this league wants Miami's bench scraps. If Bosh's name isn't in any kind of discussion for a trade to lure a big man to Miami, it'll be a non-starter.
Kingwillball
06-23-2012, 03:41 PM
Ray Allen
Marcus camby
Would be a damn good off season for Miami
:confusedshrug: ...in name but they are old as fauk rather get some young Legs at Center like Hawes or guy in Prime like Kamen. at SG take a Chance on Roy.
All Net
06-23-2012, 03:43 PM
:confusedshrug: ...in name but they are old as fauk rather get some young Legs at Center like Hawes or guy in Prime like Kamen. at SG take a Chance on Roy.
Maybe so but how likely is it to get good younger guys for what Miami can offer? Old guys who have had enough money and just want to win while still being able to produce is miami's best bet.
Camby. This allows Bosh to move to the 4 and prosper at the PF spot. And with LeBron continuing to improve his low post game even further next year after all the confidence he gained playing the low block this year, the Heat are absolutely unstoppable.
A bunch of championship titles in a row for us !! :rockon:
Ray Allen
Marcus camby
Would be a damn good off season for Miami
I don't see Ray Ray heading to South Beach.
Jason Terry and Kaman/Dalembert/Camby wouldn't be too shabby.
Kingwillball
06-23-2012, 03:52 PM
I don't see Ray Ray heading to South Beach.
Jason Terry and Kaman/Dalembert/Camby wouldn't be too shabby.
Give me some Terry and Kamen and call it a Day.. Imagine all the different Lineups MIami could toy with..
Give me some Terry and Kamen and call it a Day..
This would be the best possible situation for Miami in my opinion. Jet would look good in a Miami uniform.
Give me some Terry and Kamen and call it a Day.. Imagine all the different Lineups MIami could toy with..
Kaman pouts if he doesn't get a good amount of touches, I saw it all last year with his pouting. He wouldn't fit in here. We don't need offense once we have a center who can seriously rebound, and his defense isn't great
we need an expert rebounder and a guy who can clog the paint defensively like Camby. Camby is more unselfish and fits in better, and he can also add in some buckets - he averaged over 7ppg in 23mins per game with Houston (despite age)
camby would allow Bosh to roam alot more and make Bosh better.. as well as Lebron because both of them could concentrate on other aspects of the game instead of crashing the boards for rebounds all the time in the playoffs. Same with Wade, you notice how the Heat use Wade as a 7-footer in the paint and under the basket late in games as a shot blocker, and impeding shots causing misses (which shows Wade's incredible versatility for a SG, but also with a guy like Camby, Wade can be free to roam making the team, ultimately, alot better) .
Helps the other players play better defensively overall (and our defense is already great when they decide to play with energy and lock it down on that end of the floor - as we've seen many times)
.
All Net
06-23-2012, 04:08 PM
I get the feeling terry thinks his value is higher than it is.
lilgodfather1
06-23-2012, 04:43 PM
JET and Caveman would be an unbelievable off season. Ray Allen, and Camby would be an unreal off season too. Honestly there is a lot of players that could help the Heat out, and might want to ring chase.
Steve Nash, Grant Hill, Vince Carter, KG, Ray Allen, Jamison, AP, Jason Terry, Kidd, Andre Miller, Barbosa, Billups, Matt Barnes, Kaman, Nocioni will all be players that the Heat could sign. Two of them and they are two time champs.
Can you guys imagine KG on the Heat? KG and Bosh manning the front court would be awesome with UD off the bench. The floor spacing would be unstoppable.
Probably Haslem.
I would expect they don't get someone of Camby or Kaman's stature (and Hawes is young enough and played well enough this year to be waaaay out of their price range). It would be nice if they had a bona-fide 7 footer, who combined with Turiaf and undersized lineups (Bosh/Haslem at center, occasionally Bron at 4) could keep Joel Anthony out of the rotation. Asik would fit the bill but is restricted and will also likely fall outside what Miami can afford.
The likes of Jerome Jordan or Greg Stiemsma (who I was a fan of) were available last summer.
Free agent targets who I figure might be realistic targets are Mahinmi, Haddadi, Aaron Gray or maybe take a punt on Thabeet. If they could sneak a big out of the draft (I don't see one falling to them) or get one cheap who isn't in a teams rotation (Aldrich if he wasn't on the Thunder, Hassan Whiteside maybe) that would do the job. All they need a shot blocker (ideally, but just defending bigs would suffice), rebounder and finisher at the rim, Anthony can only do 1 of those, Turiaf is a little better but still only really provides the blocks.
Here's a list of the centers (not F-Cs or C-Fs)
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&type=per_minute&per_minute_base=36&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=N&year_min=2012&year_max=&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&is_active=&is_hof=&is_as=&as_comp=gt&as_val=0&pos_is_c=Y&qual=&c1stat=ws_per_48&c1comp=gt&c1val=-10&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=per
and here's the free agents
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/FreeAgents-12-13/nba-free-agents-2012-2013
swi7ch
06-23-2012, 05:07 PM
Fab Melo
Meticode
06-23-2012, 05:07 PM
Why the hell do championship teams always look to get older? The Heat should try and get Spencer Hawes. Legit 7 footer that can block shots, stretches the defense with his shooting, good passer for a big man and works well off the ball. Seems like a good fit.
Hawes will make more money, plus Miami is in win-now mude. All of their core players are basically around the same age. You keep a guy a year or two like Camby, then move on to the next guy to fill his role.
swi7ch
06-23-2012, 05:09 PM
Forgot to mention EDDY CURRY.
Heat's wishlist for their starting center spot should go something like this:
1. KG
2. Camby
3. Kaman
4. Hawes
5. Dalembert
6. Oden
Heat need more of a spark off the bench when Wade and Lebron don't have it going than a center. Especially since Bosh will always become a center during postseason. Therefor, getting a guy like Jason Terry who can shoot and score so much important. Especially since Mike Miller who was suppose to have that role is having all kinds of problems.
Kingwillball
06-23-2012, 06:16 PM
Heat need more of a spark off the bench when Wade and Lebron don't have it going than a center. Especially since Bosh will always become a center during postseason. Therefor, getting a guy like Jason Terry who can shoot and score so much important. Especially since Mike Miller who was suppose to have that role is having all kinds of problems.
Heat could use a Lineup of Terry, Wade, Battier, Lebron and Bosh if they want to go small with alot of scoring, floor spacing but still could Play D.
alenleomessi
06-23-2012, 06:22 PM
joel or curry
Miami will sign a scorer off the bench. But the top need is a center, a 7-footer, just average play and a guy that can somewhat hold his own down low is a top priority
When we get that piece this summer, which i'm sure Pat Riley will (as we can see he went after Kaman and inquired about other centers, so he knows this), the Heatles will easily ring off a bunch of championship titles in a row.
Also what Jason Terry offers is that he's capable of getting off his own shot. Miami don't have that outside of the big 3. Terry will be Miami's answer to James Harden and Manu Ginobili.
Jason Terry is too small to be playing SG for the Heat. I think Norris Cole and Chalmers are set at the 1. Wade/Jones/Miller(if he can get over those back problems) are fine at the 2.
I dont see Jason Terry fitting in there.
CarlosBoozer
06-23-2012, 09:31 PM
Kwame brown anyone?
I want T-Mac to go to the Heat:pimp:
Heat don't have a lot of freedom to spend on more players, so it's hard to say. They can just keep using Bosh at center, I think he can get better and better at it too :pimp: Pittman has surprisingly decent offensive ability, but he's terrible at defense (fouls every time). Houston may want to part with Dalembert or Camby, so maybe one of them if the price is right...
Anyone know of any players stuck on the bench who could potentially be decent centers?
Funnyfuka
06-23-2012, 10:35 PM
JET and Caveman would be an unbelievable off season. Ray Allen, and Camby would be an unreal off season too. Honestly there is a lot of players that could help the Heat out, and might want to ring chase.
Steve Nash, Grant Hill, Vince Carter, KG, Ray Allen, Jamison, AP, Jason Terry, Kidd, Andre Miller, Barbosa, Billups, Matt Barnes, Kaman, Nocioni will all be players that the Heat could sign. Two of them and they are two time champs.
Can you guys imagine KG on the Heat? KG and Bosh manning the front court would be awesome with UD off the bench. The floor spacing would be unstoppable.
barnes is a useless pos.
spiegel
06-23-2012, 10:37 PM
Camby lives in Houston an aint going anywhere. They need to go after someone like Kman.
GOBB_Junior
06-24-2012, 01:03 AM
http://www.tempo.com.ph/wp-content/uploads/05_12_2011_014_011_003.jpg
All Net
06-24-2012, 01:12 AM
Camby lives in Houston an aint going anywhere. They need to go after someone like Kman.
Camby's career is coming to an end soon him staying in Houston won't do him any good if he wants to end on a high.
BallsOut
06-24-2012, 01:23 AM
Jason Terry and KG aren't drama queens or puss1es. They don't want to go to Miami.
Realistically speaking, Miami should keep their core intact and add Steve Nash and Kwame Brown.
Nash/Chalmers
Wade/Battier
James/Miller
Bosh/Haslem
Brown/Anthony
:bowdown:
ihoopallday
06-24-2012, 02:13 AM
Joel Anthony. Seriously, I love that guy.
NumberSix
06-24-2012, 03:04 AM
Either Bosh or D12.
Kingwillball
06-24-2012, 03:42 AM
Jason Terry and KG aren't drama queens or puss1es. They don't want to go to Miami.
Realistically speaking, Miami should keep their core intact and add Steve Nash and Kwame Brown.
Nash/Chalmers
Wade/Battier
James/Miller
Bosh/Haslem
Brown/Anthony
:bowdown:
Not for nothing but I read somewhere not loong ago that Terry was Interested in Miami if he Leaves Dallas they are on his short list. He would be a great pickup coming off bench spelling Dwade and even Chalmers.
Kingwillball
06-24-2012, 03:43 AM
Joel Anthony. Seriously, I love that guy.
:facepalm HIs days as a Starter are over thankfully.. but I wouldnt mind having dude on Roster to play some minutes here and there in regular season.
Hittin_Shots
06-24-2012, 03:59 AM
I don't see Ray Ray heading to South Beach.
Jason Terry and Kaman/Dalembert/Camby wouldn't be too shabby.
http://hardwoodhoudini.com/2012/06/23/ray-allen-and-the-miami-heat/
CarlosBoozer
06-24-2012, 04:11 AM
Jason Terry and KG aren't drama queens or puss1es. They don't want to go to Miami.
Realistically speaking, Miami should keep their core intact and add Steve Nash and Kwame Brown.
Nash/Chalmers
Wade/Battier
James/Miller
Bosh/Haslem
Brown/Anthony
:bowdown:
This, just imagine how many assists and 3 pointers nash can get a night!
Brickz187
06-24-2012, 06:27 AM
Give me some Terry and Kamen and call it a Day.. Imagine all the different Lineups MIami could toy with..
Don't tease me with this lol I would love Terry and Kamen coming to Miami. I don't think I really see us getting either, but if we could :bowdown:
TheBigVeto
06-24-2012, 11:13 AM
Dwight Howard.
Oh wait, he's joining the Lakers.
The Heat should forget about the center position and concentrate on something else. We all know that they won't play whatever scrub center they'll get in the playoffs since Bosh will ALWAYS move into the center spot during playoffs. What they should be looking for is shooters and someone who can get his own shot off. Go all in for Jason Terry or Barbosa.
You guys seriously think Miami can afford having Kwame feckin Brown on the court during the playoffs? He'll get benched Joel Anthony style.
BallsOut
06-24-2012, 02:17 PM
KG and Terry aren't going to Miami after all the trash talk they've talked about Miami. Realistically speaking, a successful offseason for Miami is to keep most of their core and get 3pt shooting Steve Nash, an actual big defensive man in Kwame Brown and Jamal Crawford for 6th man.
PG: Nash/Chalmers/Cole
SG: Wade/Crawford/Battier
SF: James/Miller/Jones
PF: Bosh/Haslem/Turiaf
C: Brown/Anthony/Pittman
:bowdown:
KG and Terry aren't going to Miami after all the trash talk they've talked about Miami. Realistically speaking, a successful offseason for Miami is to keep most of their core and get 3pt shooting Steve Nash, an actual big defensive man in Kwame Brown and Jamal Crawford for 6th man.
PG: Nash/Chalmers/Cole
SG: Wade/Crawford/Battier
SF: James/Miller/Jones
PF: Bosh/Haslem/Turiaf
C: Brown/Anthony/Pittman
:bowdown:
Bro, everybody wants to join Miami. They'll become relevant, they'll be guaranteed going deep in the playoffs and they'll get to live in fecking Miami.
BallsOut
06-24-2012, 02:24 PM
Bro, everybody wants to join Miami. They'll become relevant, they'll be guaranteed going deep in the playoffs and they'll get to live in fecking Miami.
And they'll each get paid a luxurious 1.2 mill one year contracts while the rest of the world hates them. Who wouldn't want that!
And they'll each get paid a luxurious 1.2 mill one year contracts while the rest of the world hates them. Who wouldn't want that!
Not speaking about young players right now. But guys like KG, Ray Allen, Jason Terry, Marcus Camby and Steve Nash who've all made more than 100m in their career probably don't value money the same way.
Also if Miller retires, don't they afford more than 1.2m?
Jimmy2k8
06-24-2012, 03:02 PM
KG and Terry aren't going to Miami after all the trash talk they've talked about Miami. Realistically speaking, a successful offseason for Miami is to keep most of their core and get 3pt shooting Steve Nash, an actual big defensive man in Kwame Brown and Jamal Crawford for 6th man.
PG: Nash/Chalmers/Cole
SG: Wade/Crawford/Battier
SF: James/Miller/Jones
PF: Bosh/Haslem/Turiaf
C: Brown/Anthony/Pittman
:bowdown:
:oldlol:
I understand that a player like Nash will sign with the Heat, but Jamal Crawford? I highy doubt it. The Heat would have to throw more than just the vets mini/mle/mini mle.
Kwame Brown? :oldlol:
At best, the Heat sign Steve Nash for the vets mini. That's it. I don't see players like KG and Ray Ray going to the Heat to play with Lebron James.
blablabla
06-24-2012, 03:05 PM
KG and Terry aren't going to Miami after all the trash talk they've talked about Miami. Realistically speaking, a successful offseason for Miami is to keep most of their core and get 3pt shooting Steve Nash, an actual big defensive man in Kwame Brown and Jamal Crawford for 6th man.
PG: Nash/Chalmers/Cole
SG: Wade/Crawford/Battier
SF: James/Miller/Jones
PF: Bosh/Haslem/Turiaf
C: Brown/Anthony/Pittman
:bowdown:
they have 3million to spend how the fvck are they going to pay nash,kwame and crawford
iggy>
06-24-2012, 03:09 PM
KG
Lord Leoshes
06-24-2012, 10:56 PM
We have 3mil, & if Miller is medically unable to play next year we get 2.9mil. approximately half f Millers salary.
Our PGs are not the problem, but some of you idiots want to spend our 3mil on a PG.:facepalm
We need rebounding, & rim protection. Not another Guard, specially one that is a defensive liability. He will never get in the game. Miami is all about defense.
The only PG i would take a shot at would be Hinrich, & thats cause even when he is off on offense, he is still defending his @$$ off. & that would only be after every decent big has turned me down.
ralph_i_el
06-24-2012, 11:08 PM
Why the hell do championship teams always look to get older? The Heat should try and get Spencer Hawes. Legit 7 footer that can block shots, stretches the defense with his shooting, good passer for a big man and works well off the ball. Seems like a good fit.
because older players will work for less money :facepalm
they aren't getting hawes and keeping the big 3 intact. impossible
G-train
06-24-2012, 11:13 PM
I can't see the team changing too much.
Finances are pretty tight, and not many valuable guys take less money these days.
I'd only want a high character guy, with athleticism.
Mahinmi is my favourite, but I can't see Heat affording him.
wally_world
06-24-2012, 11:21 PM
still Joel Anthony
they're gonna end up using the money to sign another perimeter shooting wingman to add to the logjam (Battier/JJ/Mike Miller)
d.bball.guy
06-25-2012, 12:43 AM
lol yeah Camby would be a very nice fit. If they get Camby and Nash :bowdown: :bowdown: One of the biggest upsets if they don't win it all.
Kingwillball
06-25-2012, 01:06 AM
Camby would be a Great SHORT term fit as a Big, Like someone else wrote Spencer Haas is young and Versatile especially on Offense. If Miller Retires Get Terry to Help Replace Miller and add a Vet Defensive inded Big like Camby and Heat would be almost unbeatable if they have everyone heathy
Chalmers Cole
Wade Terry
Lebron Battier
Bosh Haslem
Camby Anthony or Pittman
:bowdown:
andgar923
06-25-2012, 02:20 AM
WOW is this era so depleted at the center position that Camby is desired?
sad
:facepalm :facepalm
I wonder what the Chief is up to these days.
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