View Full Version : "No NBA player has come back strong from an ACL tear", you say?
GreatGreg
06-23-2012, 10:38 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1177651-10-nba-players-that-suffered-torn-acls-and-recovered-better-than-ever
I like the last paragraph before the slide begins- and agree with it completely. It's 2012. Technology has advanced. A torn ACL no longer means the end of the world.
IGotACoolStory
06-23-2012, 10:42 PM
STOP USING BLEACHER REPORT LIKES ITS A CREDIBLE SOURCE.
When did this site get so popular? It's terrible. Any dolt can use it.
GreatGreg
06-23-2012, 10:43 PM
STOP USING BLEACHER REPORT LIKES ITS A CREDIBLE SOURCE.
When did this site get so popular? It's terrible. Any dolt can use it.
Perhaps for rumors and news, but these are facts.
MichaelCheazley
06-23-2012, 11:28 PM
Perhaps for rumors and news, but these are facts.
Oh really? Is it peer reviewed? Does it have scholarly references? No. Its basically wikipedia of articles.
Peteballa
06-23-2012, 11:31 PM
Bad examples by the Bleacher Report. They are reaching on a lot of them.
Al Jefferson? Dude was an absolute force when his ACL went out, had the T-Wolves fighting for a playoff spot back when they were TERRIBLE. I remember he had an insane January right before he went out where Minnesota had one of the best stretches in the NBA...
David West was an All Star with the Hornets. Not even close (though still very good) with the Pacers.
Jason Smith? Seriously? He didn't get any playing time before he tore his ACL, of course he is going to have better stats after getting on the court more often.
Brewer was a top 10 pick who is now a role player. Even though his rookie year wasn't stellar, who knows how he might have developed had he not been injured.
While Rose still has the possibility to recover and be the player he once was, the odds are not in his favor. His entire game was based off of explosiveness and crazy finishes at the rim. The ACL tear is going to be a huge detriment in his ability to do that. Once again, he still has the possibility of total recovery, but it's unlikely - I am rooting for him though.
Pushxx
06-23-2012, 11:33 PM
Bad examples by the Bleacher Report. They are reaching on a lot of them.
Al Jefferson? Dude was an absolute force when his ACL went out, had the T-Wolves fighting for a playoff spot back when they were TERRIBLE. I remember he had an insane January right before he went out where Minnesota had one of the best stretches in the NBA...
David West was an All Star with the Hornets. Not even close (though still very good) with the Pacers.
Jason Smith? Seriously? He didn't get any playing time before he tore his ACL, of course he is going to have better stats after getting on the court more often.
Brewer was a top 10 pick who is now a role player. Even though his rookie year wasn't stellar, who knows how he might have developed had he not been injured.
While Rose still has the possibility to recover and be the player he once was, the odds are not in his favor. His entire game was based off of explosiveness and crazy finishes at the rim. The ACL tear is going to be a huge detriment in his ability to do that. Once again, he still has the possibility of total recovery, but it's unlikely - I am rooting for him though.
This exactly. Perfect break-down.
lilgodfather1
06-23-2012, 11:39 PM
I don't have world class doctors, world class athletic ability, or world class trainers, and yet when I tore my ACL/MCL/PCL, and fractured my meniscus after two years (post op) I was back to normal, hell i'm stronger now than I was then.
Strength is one thing though. Jumping ability he might not be able to get back to full explosion. Also Rose is going to have to try and trust his knee again, and that is the hardest part.
I wish Rose the best. One of my favourite players.
50inchvertical
06-24-2012, 12:01 AM
David West's post surgery ACL is stronger than a normal presurgery one. Of all those examples, the only one that matters too much is Brewer since the other players aren't that athletic to begin with.
no pun intended
06-24-2012, 12:26 AM
DeJuan Blair has no ACL and is a rebounding beast at 6'7"
All Net
06-24-2012, 01:24 AM
Hopefully he does as it would be a damn shame for his talent not to get back to his best. Luckily he is still young.
I<3NBA
06-24-2012, 06:12 AM
when I tore my ACL/MCL/PCL, and fractured my meniscus
you don't fracture your meniscus, you tear them. only bones can be fractured.
after two years (post op) I was back to normal
even with current technology, Rose will need at least more than a year before he can get back. also, Bulls medical team sucks. a cruciate ligament tear can be prevented. that they never knew he was putting too much pressure on it is indicative they don't know wtf they are doing.
you can see a pattern in teams who have frequent injuries to their players. that's a big warning sign that the medical staff suck in preventing injuries.
so if your medical team suck, will you have the confidence in them that they can rehabilitate Rose properly. i doubt it.
Real Men Wear Green
06-24-2012, 07:07 AM
Davis coming back from it is the most promising factoid for Rose because Davis was a hyperathletic guard like Rose. I'd still expect Rose to lose a portion of his explosion but Davis came ack as an amazing leaper so Rose can definitely become great again.
blacknapalm
06-24-2012, 07:15 AM
davis was probably the best example of the bunch. i had to kind of laugh at jason smith. and no one is going to convince me that perkins is the same as he was prior to the injury. he was never explosive but the guy was much more mobile in boston.
you don't fracture your meniscus, you tear them. only bones can be fractured.
even with current technology, Rose will need at least more than a year before he can get back. also, Bulls medical team sucks. a cruciate ligament tear can be prevented. that they never knew he was putting too much pressure on it is indicative they don't know wtf they are doing.
you can see a pattern in teams who have frequent injuries to their players. that's a big warning sign that the medical staff suck in preventing injuries.
so if your medical team suck, will you have the confidence in them that they can rehabilitate Rose properly. i doubt it.
ya, i'd be concerned with the medical staff if i was a bulls fan. noah turned his ankle in the first half of that playoff game and they let him return just to fracture it.
the lockout didn't help matters. i think rose had to be continually forced to come back quicker than he should to get into a rhythm in time. the fact that different parts of his body were giving in should have been a major red flag. i'm not going to say he's injury prone, just a really bad season in that regard.
SevereUpInHere
06-24-2012, 07:32 AM
Are there various levels of ACL tears? No offence to Rose, don't really care about him, more worried about Shumpert.
I think Rose had quite a long projected return, any idea how long the projected times of the players mentioned was?
bagelred
06-24-2012, 08:42 AM
Are there various levels of ACL tears? No offence to Rose, don't really care about him, more worried about Shumpert.
I think Rose had quite a long projected return, any idea how long the projected times of the players mentioned was?
Honestly, even if Rose and Shumpert come back this season, they still won't feel like "themselves". ACL is a tough climb.
vinsanity2756
06-24-2012, 08:48 AM
Was rubio's injury also an ACL tear? I really hope he can play next season, because damn, he was fun to watch.
nathanjizzle
06-24-2012, 09:06 AM
rose will be fine. especially when you get treatment such as flying across the country to see the best athletic doctor in the country to get testosterone injections.
Yung D-Will
06-24-2012, 09:34 AM
Al at this point is a better passer than he was on Minny, but the thing about him is he doesn't depend on Athleticism at all and never has, whiles Rose's whole game relies on athleticism (Outside of his jump shot)
Go Getter
06-24-2012, 10:34 AM
His body control
Strength
Coordination
Won't be hampered by his knee....and even with a repaired knee he will be faster than Rubio. Seems like Rubio should be more worried than Rose......his speed was barely venerable and now he will struggle to keep up (maybe).
I<3NBA
06-24-2012, 10:44 AM
ya, i'd be concerned with the medical staff if i was a bulls fan. noah turned his ankle in the first half of that playoff game and they let him return just to fracture it.
it isn't just Noah you see. they let Deng play the entire season with an injured wrist. goddamn. by the time he'll have surgery, that wrist will be more damaged than ever.
the lockout didn't help matters. i think rose had to be continually forced to come back quicker than he should to get into a rhythm in time. the fact that different parts of his body were giving in should have been a major red flag. i'm not going to say he's injury prone, just a really bad season in that regard.
exactly! that's a conditioning problem and one that the medical staff should have caught early on. if they didn't, that means they're the ones contributing to the problem by giving Rose faulty instructions on his workouts. believe it or not, i don't think Rose is injury prone, and it isn't really a bad season. it's just a bad job of the medical staff overall.
Are there various levels of ACL tears?
from mild (small tears) to severe (completely torn)
I think Rose had quite a long projected return, any idea how long the projected times of the players mentioned was?
six months minimum or longer depending on the player's recuperative ability
IGOTGAME
06-24-2012, 11:04 AM
His body control
Strength
Coordination
Won't be hampered by his knee....and even with a repaired knee he will be faster than Rubio. Seems like Rubio should be more worried than Rose......his speed was barely venerable and now he will struggle to keep up (maybe).
I don't think Rubio should be worried. This effects explosive speed, which he didn't rely on. Plus, guy had no trouble keeping up.
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