Where should Steve Nash go?

[ripthekik]

With all the Deron talk there doesn't seem to be any discussion on him. Another one of the biggest FA this offseason. 38, but he can still run, pass the ball, and contribute tremendously to a team. Where should he go?

At his age, he definitely needs to go to a contender.
Knicks?
Heat?
Thunder?
Lakers?
Bulls?

He has made a statement saying he is oldschool, he'd rather beat the best team rather than join them (give him props, he's got balls, unlike lebron), so it's unlikely to be the heat. But we never know.

He seems to like the Knicks, and he might be the missing piece Melo and Amare needs.

I would personally prefer him to join the OKC, moving Westbrook to SG. Join the team that lost to the champs, and bring them over the top. Nothing can be better than going out this way.

[PickernRoller]

Heat....a diva safe-heaven.

[tedloc]

Clearly he should come to portland.... paired with batum and aldridge they could be a potent mix.... We are the closest geographically to his vancouver roots and the hockey team he owns... plus we are one of few teams that can offer him a decent sized contract.

[kaiteng]

For championship, Heat.

For money, Raptors.

For a little bit of both, Knicks.

[AMISTILLILL]

Portland seems like much more of a possibility as of late. If Dragic resigns with Houston, I wouldn't be all that surprised to see Nash in a Blazers uni by seasons start.

[Rekindled]

With all the Deron talk there doesn't seem to be any discussion on him. Another one of the biggest FA this offseason. 38, but he can still run, pass the ball, and contribute tremendously to a team. Where should he go?

At his age, he definitely needs to go to a contender.
Knicks?
Heat?
Thunder?
Lakers?
Bulls?

He has made a statement saying he is oldschool, he'd rather beat the best team rather than join them (give him props, he's got balls, unlike lebron), so it's unlikely to be the heat. But we never know.

He seems to like the Knicks, and he might be the missing piece Melo and Amare needs.

I would personally prefer him to join the OKC, moving Westbrook to SG. Join the team that lost to the champs, and bring them over the top. Nothing can be better than going out this way.

nash wont be with the knicks, knicks cannot offer the full mle because it would put knicks into hard cap. nash has come out and said on interview couple days ago that money is a big factor.

[magnax1]

Chicago or Miami. I don't know why he'd go anywhere else unless he just wants to stay in Phoenix.

[Reverend Hoops]

Hawks.

[hawkfan]

Hawks.

If the Hawks amnesty or trade away Marvin Williams (and Cleveland wants him), then this would be possible.

Doubt it though because the team is committed to making Teague the point guard and he needs to get his minutes.

OKC would be a good place to go, but he would have to take a paycut.

Toronto would be a good place for him. They should have the money for him. Calderon becomes a combo guard off the bench. Nash and Calderon together would actually be pretty good.

[Hank]

For championship, Heat.

For money, Raptors.

For a little bit of both, Knicks.

LOL the knicks aren't coming close to any kind of championship any time soon

[HorryIsMyMVP]

I hope the Pacers honestly.

[clipse]

If the Hawks amnesty or trade away Marvin Williams (and Cleveland wants him), then this would be possible.

Doubt it though because the team is committed to making Teague the point guard and he needs to get his minutes.

OKC would be a good place to go, but he would have to take a paycut.

Toronto would be a good place for him. They should have the money for him. Calderon becomes a combo guard off the bench. Nash and Calderon together would actually be pretty good.

That would be the worst defensive backcourt EVER! If the play is for Nash, the raps will move Jose's expiring contract.

[Reverend Hoops]

If the Hawks amnesty or trade away Marvin Williams (and Cleveland wants him), then this would be possible.

Doubt it though because the team is committed to making Teague the point guard and he needs to get his minutes.
.

I'm not sure Ferry is committed to anything.

[Kurosawa0]

I'm big on the OKC idea. I think it'd make them strong favorites.

Alas, doesn't seem like either side has any interest.

[Godzuki]

whatever decision he makes i won't feel sorry for him. he's as much in control of his destiny right now as anybody. whether he wants the money over ring opportunity is up to him.


i'm still surprised the Suns didn't even try to get anything for him. just silly to let him walk like this.

[AMISTILLILL]

Financially and opportunity-wise, Portland makes a lot of sense. Not to mention he'd be going to a team with an All Star caliber performer like LaMarcus Aldridge. They retain Batum, and they've still got Brooklyn's #6 to draft and fill a need. Nash nearly dragged a Phoenix team to the Playoffs consisting of Shannon Brown, Channing Frye and the aging bodies of Hill and Redd.

They can sign him to a generous offer sheet (2 years/$24 million?) and still have well over $20 million left to fill out the roster next season. Again, all of this AND the #6 pick. Maybe they don't contend for a championship but they certainly make waves. Loads of potential with that sort of PG running the show and that kind of financial flexibility going into this summers free agency period.

[kaiteng]

LOL the knicks aren't coming close to any kind of championship any time soon
That's why it is "a little bit". :D

[PJR]

He's going to Dallas.

[TMT]

Am I one of the only ones who thinks Nash on the Knicks would give them immediate championship possibilities? Their problem last year was having so many isolation players, no one to really distribute and run the offense. He fits their biggest, most desperate need. I think he should absolutely go there.

[BallsOut]

Miami Heat's new starting PG.

[AMISTILLILL]

Am I one of the only ones who thinks Nash on the Knicks would give them immediate championship possibilities? Their problem last year was having so many isolation players, no one to really distribute and run the offense. He fits their biggest, most desperate need. I think he should absolutely go there.

Having Nash doesn't change the sort of game Melo has stubbornly played his entire career. He needs the ball to create his own shot. He doesn't play off the ball like a Ray Allen type would.

The same argument against Nash in Miami is applicable to Nash in NY, albeit to a lesser extent. Their superstars require the ball in their hands too much and won't bend their will to fit in that sort of Nash-led system.

[BallsOut]

Having Nash doesn't change the sort of game Melo has stubbornly played his entire career. He needs the ball to create his own shot. He doesn't play off the ball like a Ray Allen type would.

The same argument against Nash in Miami is applicable to Nash in NY, albeit to a lesser extent. Their superstars require the ball in their hands too much and won't bend their will to fit in that sort of Nash-led system.

Which makes even more sense for Nash to go to Miami. :confusedshrug:

[AMISTILLILL]

Which makes even more sense for Nash to go to Miami. :confusedshrug:

...what?

[TMT]

Having Nash doesn't change the sort of game Melo has stubbornly played his entire career. He needs the ball to create his own shot. He doesn't play off the ball like a Ray Allen type would.

The same argument against Nash in Miami is applicable to Nash in NY, albeit to a lesser extent. Their superstars require the ball in their hands too much and won't bend their will to fit in that sort of Nash-led system.

There's no doubt Nash could be that vocal leader on the court that the Knicks clearly lack. If anything I think his addition and his leadership would help Melo out a lot and somewhat put him in his place. I wouldn't see Melo forcing the ball out of Nash's hands, clearly this opportunity would be one that he should embrace if he has any hope of achieving an NBA title. Not to mention Nash would have a free for all with Amare and Tyson and would get these guys tons of looks.

I think the Knicks would be a much better fit. It would be a shame to see him go to waste in Miami with multiple ball dominant players already there.

[AMISTILLILL]

There's no doubt Nash could be that vocal leader on the court that the Knicks clearly lack. If anything I think his addition and his leadership would help Melo out a lot and somewhat put him in his place. I wouldn't see Melo forcing the ball out of Nash's hands, clearly this opportunity would be one that he should embrace if he has any hope of achieving an NBA title. Not to mention Nash would have a free for all with Amare and Tyson and would get these guys tons of looks.

I think the Knicks would be a much better fit. It would be a shame to see him go to waste in Miami with multiple ball dominant players already there.

The Knicks and Jeremy Lin wouldn't be going through these lengths to acquire his Bird rights if they intended to run out and sign Steve Nash in the off season.

It also goes without saying that they can't possibly afford him.

[ihoopallday]

OP, you've been bitchin all week about Miami being too stacked. Lmao now you suggest Nash should go to them?:confusedshrug:

[TMT]

The Knicks and Jeremy Lin wouldn't be going through these lengths to acquire his Bird rights if they intended to run out and sign Steve Nash in the off season.

It also goes without saying that they can't possibly afford him.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the Knicks acquire the Bird rights for Lin and Novak won't they still have the full MLE at their disposal?

[BallsOut]

...what?

:oldlol: If you haven't noticed, I'm not exactly Miami's biggest fan dude.

[Godzuki]

Knicks use pick'n'roll a lot. then theres the familiarity with Amare already, and Chandler chemistry would probably be easy to develop. Melo is the big question mark but i think he'd still fit in well with Nash.

too bad Knicks don't have the money to sign Nash, and Nash already hinted at money being a factor(respect)

[AMISTILLILL]

:oldlol: If you haven't noticed, I'm not exactly Miami's biggest fan dude.

Still confused.

[AMISTILLILL]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the Knicks acquire the Bird rights for Lin and Novak won't they still have the full MLE at their disposal?

Yes. I hope you're not suggesting that Nash would sign anywhere for the full MLE.

[BallsOut]

Yes. I hope you're not suggesting that Nash would sign anywhere for the full MLE.

Why not? Nash said he would consider Miami, and all they have to offer is the mini MLE.

[KG215]

I'm big on the OKC idea. I think it'd make them strong favorites.

Alas, doesn't seem like either side has any interest.

Haven't heard anything about interest from OKC's side but he'd be a good fit there. I still think OKC is at their best in crunch time with Harden handling primary ball-handling/playmaking responsibilities, and Westbrook playing off the ball. With Nash, OKC could go with a Nash-Westbrook-Harden-Durant-Ibaka/Collison smallball lineup (which is becoming a big trend in the league) and you'd be f*cked if they had the lead and got in the bonus midway through the fourth quarter.

Nash would make Ibaka a much more lethal scorer since he still can't really create his own shot.

[AMISTILLILL]

Why not? Nash said he would consider Miami, and all they have to offer is the mini MLE.

Stating a willingness to sign with a team doesn't convey a willingness to sign for their most meager available salary amount. You surely don't need that explained to you.

[ripthekik]

OP, you've been bitchin all week about Miami being too stacked. Lmao now you suggest Nash should go to them?:confusedshrug:
Cant you read? Really?:facepalm
I was merely listing his options, and what he has said in the past few days.
The last paragraph I clearly stated my personal preference was for him to join OKC.

[wally_world]

He'll make ANY team better

and honestly, going to any team beats him staying with the Suns.

[Nash]

Championship: Miami
Challenge: Raptors
Challenge & Market: Knicks

[Rake2204]

I think Steve Nash should go wherever he's happiest. Contrary to many other fading stars, he at least seems to have some sort of value for loyalty and overall happiness. Further, he doesn't seem overly interested in jumping on a superstar team's coattails and hoping to ride them to a ring. There's been a lot of folks out there assuming they know what's best for Nash, assuming he has to win a ring, has to get a lot of money, etc. I'm actually kind of hoping he decides to finish things out in Phoenix.

[blablabla]

http://www.johnnyroadtrip.com/cities/newyork/images/msg.jpg

[Bosnian Sajo]

Lakers please :bowdown:

We will take Grant Hill for our bench too, and with Mo coming in the Odom/TE trade....we finally have a good bench again :party:

Nash/Mo
Kobe/Barnes
Metta/GHill
Gasol/JHill
Bynum/McBob

[Crown&Coke]

probably not going to happen, but trade the Odom TPE and a future pick for Nash to the Lakers

Nash would fit into the Lakers financial plan if they sign him to a 2 year deal. His contract would expire the same time Pau and Kobe's would, which would kind of set up the lakers for now and future cap space

[ukplayer4]

pacers or blazers, dont think he makes either a championship calibeer team tho but those are the best two fits i feel.

[TMT]

Yes. I hope you're not suggesting that Nash would sign anywhere for the full MLE.

Um, yes I am.

In Miami he wouldn't get payed much at all. With the Knicks he'd get about double what he'd make with the Heat. If he wants to get payed he can go to Toronto or stay in Phoenix, if he wants a shot at a title he will wisely take less to be part of a contender. I don't think Nash wants to rot away the last year(s) of his career on a garbage franchise.

[swi7ch]

MIA obviously.

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

Well, it appears that the ring-chasers go to Miami (Lebron, Bosh, and now Ray Ray).
But that my not be what Nash is interested in. He said he is too competitive to do that sort of thing.

[AMISTILLILL]

Um, yes I am.

In Miami he wouldn't get payed much at all. With the Knicks he'd get about double what he'd make with the Heat. If he wants to get payed he can go to Toronto or stay in Phoenix, if he wants a shot at a title he will wisely take less to be part of a contender. I don't think Nash wants to rot away the last year(s) of his career on a garbage franchise.

:facepalm

Yes, Nash is going from making $12 million a season to making 1/3 of that playing in a system that doesn't even utilize his strengths as a distributor because he'd be playing with two ball dominant scorers.

I'm not sure people who suggest these sorts of things even bother to watch basketball. They just recognize big name A and figure he should fit alongside big name B and C, based purely on the fact that they're big names.

"It just makes sense!"

[TMT]

:facepalm

Yes, Nash is going from making $12 million a season to making 1/3 of that playing in a system that doesn't even utilize his strengths as a distributor because he'd be playing with two ball dominant scorers.

I'm not sure people who suggest these sorts of things even bother to watch basketball. They just recognize big name A and figure he should fit alongside big name B and C, based purely on the fact that they're big names.

"It just makes sense!"

I see you referring to the Heat as being a bad option, which I already said. On the other hand I'm speaking about the Knicks who have only one dominant ball scorer and a handful of guys who need to be set up, either three point shooters or guys who are at their best when they have their shots created for them around the basket. If you bothered to read my posts you'd realize I wasn't just spewing out "He should go to the Knicks!" with no further analysis.

[AMISTILLILL]

I see you referring to the Heat as being a bad option, which I already said. On the other hand I'm speaking about the Knicks who have only one dominant ball scorer and a handful of guys who need to be set up, either three point shooters or guys who are at their best when they have their shots created for them around the basket. If you bothered to read my posts you'd realize I wasn't just spewing out "He should go to the Knicks!" with no further analysis.

I read your posts. The idea of Nash to New York still doesn't make sense when you account for EVERYTHING they're going through to keep Jeremy Lin moving forward, in addition to how little they can actually offer Steve Nash. This is all without acknowledging Melo's reputation as a ball stopper and ISO player. That doesn't just go away over night because you bring a star PG into the fold.

Nash isn't a permanent solution for the Knicks. Look at the potential title contenders right now like Miami, Chicago, Oklahoma City... teams with young pieces and superstars who will be capable of staying relevant for years. Signing Nash is putting a band-aid over a gaping flesh wound.

Sure, maybe Nash helps get NY out of the first round (which is embarrassing that a team comprised of Melo and STAT needs help doing that to begin with) but in two years he retires and they'll be back to square one. Not only that but they've been mired in mediocre team hell for so long that they wouldn't even be able to draft to fill needs.

[DStebb716]

For championship, Heat.

For money, Raptors.

For a little bit of both, Knicks.

Well said :applause:

[Alamo]

Raptors

[TMT]

I read your posts. The idea of Nash to New York still doesn't make sense when you account for EVERYTHING they're going through to keep Jeremy Lin moving forward, in addition to how little they can actually offer Steve Nash. This is all without acknowledging Melo's reputation as a ball stopper and ISO player. That doesn't just go away over night because you bring a star PG into the fold.

Nash isn't a permanent solution for the Knicks. Look at the potential title contenders right now like Miami, Chicago, Oklahoma City... teams with young pieces and superstars who will be capable of staying relevant for years. Signing Nash is putting a band-aid over a gaping flesh wound.

Sure, maybe Nash helps get NY out of the first round (which is embarrassing that a team comprised of Melo and STAT needs help doing that to begin with) but in two years he retires and they'll be back to square one. Not only that but they've been mired in mediocre team hell for so long that they wouldn't even be able to draft to fill needs.

Okay let's work through this logically.

Everyone knows the Knicks are trying to get Lin back. Contrast to popular belief (and all the crazy predicaments that have been brought on by Linsanity) Jeremy Lin at his best is hardly a top 15 point guard. He's not going to take the Knicks to the next level, neither is he going to command much respect from his all-star teammates (as was shown when Melo came back this past year from injury and things resorted back to their pre-Linsanity ways, shortly before he went out for the season). Lin isn't a high caliber starting point guard in the NBA and that's obvious. He's clearly much more fitted to give you solid minutes off the bench running the show.

Now, let's compare that to one of the all time great point guards in Steve Nash. Nash is a proven guy, and has been a solid winner for most of his career. There is no doubt he commands much respect, not only as a prolific passer and scorer but at his age he's still one of the best floor generals we have in today's game. You mean to tell me that if Nash comes in he isn't going to command the respect of the guys already there? That's ridiculous. Your telling me Melo will look at Nash the same way as he does Lin? The difference would be monumental. Not only would this help Melo out a handful, but the offense would flourish as it should with so many weapons on that end. The Heat just won a championship with two ball dominant superstars leading the charge, and your telling me because Melo is so isolation dependent that there is no way he could embrace the potential best point guard he has ever played next to in order to amount for higher success? This honestly astounds me.

Obviously this isn't a long term solution for the Knicks, that's a given. But having him head the offense for this distraught New York Knicks (their biggest issue after letting Chauncey go in order to sign Tyson Chandler) will no doubt make them a much better team. There's no guessing or assuming in this situation. Nash is the kind of player who can walk into any team and immediately make and impact, and clearly this team needs him more than any other.

What do you expect, Melo to rip the ball out of Nash's hands and say, "Go stand in the fvcking corner" ? Damn, give Melo a little credit. The reason that Knicks team was so ugly and out of order this past season because they had no vocal leader on the floor. Nash could easily walk in and make this team better from day 1. If you don't see that you are just a straight moron.

[AMISTILLILL]

Tl; dr

Bumping thread when Nash doesn't sign with New York.

[TMT]

The low in intellect usually don't. Doesn't surprise me.

[AMISTILLILL]

The low in intellect usually don't. Doesn't surprise me.

I'm far more intelligent than you are and my posts outline the fact rather succinctly. What a tragic misnomer on your behalf.

You're arguing a non-point regarding players and teams you don't even have an invested interest in. Continue wasting time if that's your thing, but it's not going to change the reality of the situation.

[DirtySanchez]

Raptors

[TMT]

I'm far more intelligent than you are and my posts outline the fact rather succinctly. What a tragic misnomer on your behalf.

You're arguing a non-point regarding players and teams you don't even have an invested interest in. Continue wasting time if that's your thing, but it's not going to change the reality of the situation.

tl;dr

You are no longer noted in my book as able to have a worthy basketball conversation with.

[niko]

Am I one of the only ones who thinks Nash on the Knicks would give them immediate championship possibilities? Their problem last year was having so many isolation players, no one to really distribute and run the offense. He fits their biggest, most desperate need. I think he should absolutely go there.
Not only that but he's looking (no hate, i respect) a nice payday. If he won a title in NY (longshot as it would be) or even played so well here that he became somewhat of a "NY Guy" he'd be set for life. Every business, anything. He wants to be a businesman post career, well guess what? Our owner, as much of a dick as he is, is a billionaire whose main friends are wall street types who control the $ invested.

We could get him if we showed a little creativity and balls. Backload Lin and give Nash the full money (Lin being tutored as a backup to Nash is so great id hardly believe it).

[AMISTILLILL]

tl;dr

You are no longer noted in my book as able to have a worthy basketball conversation with.

That's not even clever. :rolleyes:

Since I can't, for the life of me, recall reading one of your posts up until this thread, I can safely predict a future free of waking up in a cold sweat at night, wondering what "could have been" had you deemed me worthy of your casual fans grasp of the game.

[oamjad13]

Raptors

I am literally praying for this.