why do people hate on lebron and kobe instead of just enjoying their greatness

[EllisGW]

If you are a true basketball fan you should enjoy he greatness of these players. It makes no sense to hate because these guys are all time greats. Obviously some players you like more than others, but i just dont get how you really cant respect the plays they make.

[Clippersfan86]

You are definitely an alt of Shady. How many accounts do you have man?

[lilgodfather1]

Success breads hatred bro. Or in Kobe's case his fans bread hatred.

[Tenchi Ryu]

Success breads hatred bro. Or in Kobe's case his fans bread hatred.
Lebron's case too.

[TheFan]

He is easy to pick on, i like Kobe, he is exactly the type of person id be if i had massive success... a prick, walking around so full of myself, when people try to start a conversation, acting like i don't give a ****...

[Crown&Coke]

some of our lives are so deplorable that we only feel better about ourselves if we are knocking someone else down

and in this case, neither of those guys can bitchslap the shit outta us so its easy pickings

looks like a win-win

[chosen_one6]

Somewhere along the history of American culture it became the norm to praise people that are humble and modest and dislike people that are cocky and high on themselves.

Kobe and LeBron both have enormous egos and because of that they will always have a group of people that do not like them for it.

[Tenchi Ryu]

He is easy to pick on, i like Kobe, he is exactly the type of person id be if i had massive success... a prick, walking around so full of myself, when people try to start a conversation, acting like i don't give a ****...
Yea the thing with both Lebron and Kobe is that they have tendencies to show jerkass moments. The reason Lebron will get dogged on it more is cause he shows signs of being effected by what people say. Kobe on the other hand lets it clearly known he couldn't give two fukks about what you think.

[DaHeezy]

Certain fans of players feel threatened so they go out of their way to make players look bad

This goes especially true for Jordan stans who feel threatened by both players

[Brickz187]

People can't enjoy their greatness because of Jordan. Really no other way to put it.

[OhNoTimNoSho]

Because most people are unhappy with their everyday life and dont feel like there is success within their grasp.. so their underlying emotion is bitterness hatred and contempt for anyone who seems like they are succeeding and overcoming their own problems. Its psychology 101. Other peoples success reminds them of their own failures and shortcomings.

[DaHeezy]

People can't enjoy their greatness because of Jordan. Really no other way to put it.

Bingo

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

We're going to be united when the Summer Olympics get here.

[Tenchi Ryu]

Certain fans of players feel threatened so they go out of their way to make players look bad

This goes especially true for Jordan stans who feel threatened by both players
Agree, its pretty much a consistent flow of the feeling of a future threat to the legacy by future potenial. Wilt/KAJ fans are weary of Jordan, Jordan fans definitely are weary of Kobe, Kobe fans are weary of Lebron, and now you have Lebron fans getting weary over Durant, Rose and the likes.

Next thing you know people will get weary of whoever is the next big thing in the next 5-10 years.

[Mach_3]

Because ppl feel the need to incessantly ride these ni99as d1cks so others feel the need to put them in their place, i also blame espn for trying to constantly compare these guys to jordan

[SpecialQue]

It's fun.

[DaHeezy]

Because ppl feel the need to incessantly ride these ni99as d1cks so others feel the need to put them in their place, i also blame espn for trying to constantly compare these guys to jordan


So people can't be fans of these players they need to be put in their place?

Back in the 80's Jordan was constantly being compared to Dr.J. Should Erving fans have had the right to put Jordan fans in their place? Because before Jordan had ever amounted to anything they were chirping about how he was the greatest player to ever live.

Let fans appreciate players

[LakersReign]

Because most people are unhappy with their everyday life and dont feel like there is success within their grasp.. so their underlying emotion is bitterness hatred and contempt for anyone who seems like they are succeeding and overcoming their own problems. Its psychology 101. Other peoples success reminds them of their own failures and shortcomings.

This:applause:

And also the fact that a lot of people doing the hatin' especially in Kobe case, really don't know that much if anything about basketball, or anything else for that matter. They can regurgitate stats and such they got off the internet or ESPN, to try to make it look like they know something. But they can't form their own opinions about them. All they do is repeat what they heard. They hate on Kobe cuz Lebron is popular, and they seem to think it's somehow supposed to be "progressive" or "cool" to hate the dude. Ask them why, and like I said before, they have no real idea. And go into this litany of media talking points. When doing so makes them look stupid, then they resort to personal attacks. Cuz it's really all they know how to do, and pretty much is a great indicator of how old they really are. That's the main reason why anybody who really knows anything about basketball, doesn't take a thing they say seriously.

[pauk]

Kobe? Greatness? What greatness has he done today? I just mean you can find reasons to "hate" on Kobe today with his shortcomings.... but Lebron? Doesnt make sense... or wait it actually does considering those "haters" are Kobe fans... makes perfect sense...

[LakersReign]

Yeah cuz according to you, Lebron's so perfect, he has no shortcomings, being that he just won a title all by himself....right?:rolleyes:

Yeah Kobe and everybody else in the NBA has shortcomings, EXCEPT Lebron....right? No objectivity whatsoever, then they claim to know basketball. Which is exactly why most people just laugh at the idiocy of Lebron fans:facepalm

[Kobr]

Because LeBron is an overrated choke artist who had to abandon his team in Cleveland after 8 years of failure to team up with an NBA champion top-3 SG and an all-star top-5 PF.

He's an average talent with above average athleticism, and the fact that he even gets mentioned near the top 10 GOAT list is why people dislike him and his fans.

[BlackVVaves]

Certain fans of players feel threatened so they go out of their way to make players look bad

This goes especially true for Jordan stans who feel threatened by both players

Bingo.

[BlackVVaves]

Kobe? Greatness? What greatness has he done today? I just mean you can find reasons to "hate" on Kobe today with his shortcomings.... but Lebron? Doesnt make sense... or wait it actually does considering those "haters" are Kobe fans... makes perfect sense...

Example 1.

[LA_Showtime]

Kobe? Greatness? What greatness has he done today? I just mean you can find reasons to "hate" on Kobe today with his shortcomings.... but Lebron? Doesnt make sense... or wait it actually does considering those "haters" are Kobe fans... makes perfect sense...

Not sure if cereal. Rings, all-star games, clutchness, etc. The guy might not be perfect but he's still carved out his place in history.

[Dagouch]

People don't appreciate something till it's gone.

I'm a lifelong Knicks fan and Hated Jordan. It wasn't till he retired the second Time I was able to truly appreciate what he's done for the league. I imagine it will be the same for Lebron and Kobe.

[AlonzoGOAT]

Because LeBron is an overrated choke artist who had to abandon his team in Cleveland after 8 years of failure to team up with an NBA champion top-3 SG and an all-star top-5 PF.

He's an average talent with above average athleticism, and the fact that he even gets mentioned near the top 10 GOAT list is why people dislike him and his fans.

http://i54.tinypic.com/2nkjpds.jpg

[Glide2keva]

Lebron's case too.
This.

[Glide2keva]

Because ppl feel the need to incessantly ride these ni99as d1cks so others feel the need to put them in their place, i also blame espn for trying to constantly compare these guys to jordan
:applause:

[ducktape]

because lebron hasn't raped anyone yet

[Rolando]

Unless you are a Cleveland fan, it is hard to hate on Lebron. The guy plays the game the "right" way. I just hope he works even more on his mid-range and post game. Then he will be the real, bonafide, top 10 baller deal.

Kobe plays ego/hero ball and he is on the Lakers = Real easy to hate although I appreciate his all around game and obviously the time that has gone into it. Like Magic Johnson, I might actually not hate him in 10 years or so. But for now, I hate him.

[caliman]

This goes especially true for Jordan stans who feel threatened by both players


:applause:

[Alamo]

Kobe? Greatness? What greatness has he done today? I just mean you can find reasons to "hate" on Kobe today with his shortcomings.... but Lebron? Doesnt make sense... or wait it actually does considering those "haters" are Kobe fans... makes perfect sense...



:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[sipitri]

I came to this forum hating Kobe, now I enjoy watching him play and I watch the Lakers everytime I can. That fadeaway in the post is just :bowdown:

[LakersFan626]

Lebron's case too.

Yep. The LeBron trolls guaranteed a championship all year, even after losing the Finals last year, and thought Haslem, Chalmers, Battier, and Miller (all very solid role players with a good IQ for the most part, which wasn't the case with guys like Sasha, Farmar, Brown, Powell, Walton, Morrison, and Mbenga who Kobe carried to rings) wasn't enough help even though they came through big time in the Finals.

[ripthekik]

Kobe? Greatness? What greatness has he done today? I just mean you can find reasons to "hate" on Kobe today with his shortcomings.... but Lebron? Doesnt make sense... or wait it actually does considering those "haters" are Kobe fans... makes perfect sense...
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
pauk at it again.. Kobe with his shortcomings... Lebron who is the perfect man..

need I post his famous choking videos all of the playoffs for you? that guy who could only win with 2 stars in their primes?

[Mach_3]

So people can't be fans of these players they need to be put in their place?

Back in the 80's Jordan was constantly being compared to Dr.J. Should Erving fans have had the right to put Jordan fans in their place? Because before Jordan had ever amounted to anything they were chirping about how he was the greatest player to ever live.

Let fans appreciate players

There's a difference between appreciating players and riding someone's balls every 3 seconds. Most people here perfer the second option

[Nevaeh]

Bingo

Of course, if you allow fans of other Players to hinder your enjoyment of your personal favorite player, then that sounds like a personal problem that you have more than anything. Of course, you don't have a favorite player, so you don't have that problem.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

[DaHeezy]

Of course, if you allow fans of other Players to hinder your enjoyment of your personal favorite player, then that sounds like a personal problem that you have more than anything. Of course, you don't have a favorite player, so you don't have that problem.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

FYI, I'm a Magic Johnson fan. Since I'm from Vancouver I've never had an affiliation with a team. The Grizzlies when they were here, and Seattle growing up because the exposure, but no real commitment so I followed players. You obviously don't know me as a poster and since you insist on questioning my integrity, when I first joined EZ board 10 years ago I was a big time Kobe hater. They once had a "who's the biggest Kobe hater" thread and I was top 10. As a Magic Johnson fan I wasn't gonna have anyone rank Kobe over Magic, especially as an all-time Laker. You know what I noticed? The more I'd bash Kobe, the more the Jordan fanboys would have my back. All's good right? Then when it comes to me expressing my opinion of Magic as the greatest of all-time, the very same Jordan minions who supported my views on Kobe were bashing my views of Magic hard. You know what I also noticed? The Kobetards I was bashing would rarely, if at all, would counter my views. My conclusion? Jordan fans get the most insecure when anybody has an opinion on who's GOAT, especially to the Kobetards, which led me to my negative views on Jordan stans. So hear me when I say this, I don't have a problem with Jordan's greatness, his fans are a different story.

To back my statement up, I bet if a poster started a thread stating Magic, Wilt, KAJ were the GOAT, not bring up any other player, not Kobe, not Lebron, not any top 10 player of all-time, my money would be that the majority of butthurtedness would come from Jordan stans.

I'm not saying I hate all Jordan fans, there are fans I respect who can articulate a debate without leading to insults, but here that's rare (yes Kobetards are the same way, but my feelings are the do it on purpose to rile people up, Jordan fans are more serious about it). I'll respect people's POV, especially level headed Jordan fans and I will gladly debate Magic vs Jordan

[ihoopallday]

Lmfao didn't even make it to page 2 without a LeBron and Kobe argument. :lol

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Jordan fans are threatened by Kobe's rings and LeBron's numbers.

:confusedshrug:

[M.Bustly15A5RU8]

perimeter players are very overrated.

they'll never have the impact of a great big man

[gilalizard]

They're both super-talented, but they've both gotten so much favoritism at times (Lebron even more than Kobe, if you can believe that) that it's impossible to judge how great they really are.

Then you turn around and there's legions of their drooling, feverishly *********ing stans insisting either player is the goat of all goats while ignoring how blatantly the game was tilted in their favor at times, and it becomes a complete farce.

It's hard to enjoy their greatness when their "greatness" is so defined by how much favoritism they get.

Well... unless you're more concerned with worshiping a particular player over seeing legit competition.

[B]

What cracks me up the most about all this is while the player stans throw barbs back and forth at each other and spew meaningless BS that nobody believes for a second these players are sitting in a club someplace together chilling and respecting each other for what he is

[Kobr]

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[ripthekik]

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[Nevaeh]

Jordan fans are threatened by Kobe's rings and LeBron's numbers.

:confusedshrug:

And you're threatened by a player who's been out of the League for 9 years.
:lol

[SevereUpInHere]

People don't appreciate something till it's gone.

I'm a lifelong Knicks fan and Hated Jordan. It wasn't till he retired the second Time I was able to truly appreciate what he's done for the league. I imagine it will be the same for Lebron and Kobe.

Don't know if I could put it any better than this. Every kid I knew growing wore Jordan jerseys and went for the Bulls and I hated it. When I watch him now I can appreciate the greatness. Now that I'm older, I can appreciate great players like Kobe and Bron for the amazing players they are. I'm sure these haters will look back one day the same way.

[DaHeezy]

And you're threatened by a player who's been out of the League for 9 years.
:lol

I've addressed you but you seemed to have ignored my response.

This is why I feel Jordan fans can't be reasoned with.

[DaHeezy]

Don't know if I could put it any better than this. Every kid I knew growing wore Jordan jerseys and went for the Bulls and I hated it. When I watch him now I can appreciate the greatness. Now that I'm older, I can appreciate great players like Kobe and Bron for the amazing players they are. I'm sure these haters will look back one day the same way.

I doubt it, they are so diluted in it it's an obsession they'll take to their graves

[Nevaeh]

I've addressed you but you seemed to have ignored my response.

This is why I feel Jordan fans can't be reasoned with.

I read your post yesterday. You said you're a Magic Johnson Fan. The last Magic vs. Jordan thread that I can remember happened some time last year. I believe it was a "Rank All-Time Guards" type of thread that had MJ edging out Magic based on Finals MVPs, Scoring Titles and defense, not to mention being the "Undisputed" (that word again) Leader of every one of his Title Teams.

You see how easy it is to make points about players, without even downplaying the other guy? Yet I never see you saying jack sh!t when Posters try to undercut MJ with lies, half truths or by bending the "rules".

[StateOfMind12]

Only Kobe fans hate LeBron, not even Lakers fans, just Kobe fans. Meanwhile, everyone who hated Kobe like 4-5 years ago probably still hate him now.

I don't like Kobe's game anymore compared to what it was 4-5 years ago but I'm not going to go as far as saying I hate him though.

Kobe fans hate Lebron because they are insecure that LeBron will surpass him.

A lot of random people hate Kobe because he is poor teammate, a possible rapist, and a shot jacker for the most part.

I always thought that Kobe should have been a top 5 player of all-time with his talent and ability but he isn't due to his horrendous shot selection and his poor decision making.

There isn't much to hate about LeBron other than how he left Cleveland even though he apologized for it and he said he would do it differently. I don't know why people can't accept the fact that LeBron has grew up this season and is not some immature kid like he was in 2011.

[WhiteMamba]

I think jealousy is definitely a factor with hating these guys. Both are incredible players, and a lot of people would like that kind of talent on their team. So jealousy turns to hatred.

[DaHeezy]

I read your post yesterday. You said you're a Magic Johnson Fan. The last Magic vs. Jordan thread that I can remember happened some time last year. I believe it was a "Rank All-Time Guards" type of thread that had MJ edging out Magic based on Finals MVPs, Scoring Titles and defense, not to mention being the "Undisputed" (that word again) Leader of every one of his Title Teams.

You see how easy it is to make points about players, without even downplaying the other guy? Yet I never see you saying jack sh!t when Posters try to undercut MJ with lies, half truths or by bending the "rules".

:facepalm moron missed my point. Typical Jordian response. I wasn't debating who was better, I was explaining why i don't like retards like you.

[Doctor Rivers]

:facepalm moron missed my point. Typical Jordian response. I wasn't debating who was better, I was explaining why i don't like retards like you.

I think he's more obsessed with responding to alphawolf whenever he posts than defending Jordan's legacy.

[blablabla]

fvck bron

[TheFan]

"why do people hate on lebron and kobe instead of just enjoying their greatness?"

Because only their wives and few others get to see them naked...
first pen*s reference? did i win something?

[DaHeezy]

I think he's more obsessed with responding to alphawolf whenever he posts than defending Jordan's legacy.

The obsession is unhealthy.

[Nevaeh]

:facepalm moron missed my point. Typical Jordian response. I wasn't debating who was better, I was explaining why i don't like retards like you.



FYI, I'm a Magic Johnson fan. Since I'm from Vancouver I've never had an affiliation with a team. The Grizzlies when they were here, and Seattle growing up because the exposure, but no real commitment so I followed players. You obviously don't know me as a poster and since you insist on questioning my integrity, when I first joined EZ board 10 years ago I was a big time Kobe hater. They once had a "who's the biggest Kobe hater" thread and I was top 10. As a Magic Johnson fan I wasn't gonna have anyone rank Kobe over Magic, especially as an all-time Laker. You know what I noticed? The more I'd bash Kobe, the more the Jordan fanboys would have my back. All's good right? Then when it comes to me expressing my opinion of Magic as the greatest of all-time, the very same Jordan minions who supported my views on Kobe were bashing my views of Magic hard. You know what I also noticed? The Kobetards I was bashing would rarely, if at all, would counter my views. My conclusion? Jordan fans get the most insecure when anybody has an opinion on who's GOAT, especially to the Kobetards, which led me to my negative views on Jordan stans. So hear me when I say this, I don't have a problem with Jordan's greatness, his fans are a different story.

To back my statement up, I bet if a poster started a thread stating Magic, Wilt, KAJ were the GOAT, not bring up any other player, not Kobe, not Lebron, not any top 10 player of all-time, my money would be that the majority of butthurtedness would come from Jordan stans.

I'm not saying I hate all Jordan fans, there are fans I respect who can articulate a debate without leading to insults, but here that's rare (yes Kobetards are the same way, but my feelings are the do it on purpose to rile people up, Jordan fans are more serious about it). I'll respect people's POV, especially level headed Jordan fans and I will gladly debate Magic vs Jordan

I addressed the Key Points in your post regarding Magic Johnson. I brought up points on why Jordan Fans may think he edges out Magic on All Time lists. I didn't bring up stats, or try to downplay Magic in any way, yet you call me a moron. There was absolutely no insecurity in my response at all. Level headed post, just like you like it, yet you still wanna b!tch.

All of that fluff about your past feelings for Kobe were moot to me, because I was responding to your original post quoting me about you being a Magic Johnson Fan.

[Nevaeh]

I think he's more obsessed with responding to alphawolf whenever he posts than defending Jordan's legacy.

Speaking of "obsessed" ........... http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/images/smilies/lol.gif

[Yao Ming's Foot]

And you're threatened by a player who's been out of the League for 9 years.
:lol

:biggums:

[Nevaeh]

:biggums:

*Looks at Yao Ming's Foot Avatar....*
:biggums:

[LelBron]

http://i.imgur.com/7QTab.jpg

[Blue&Orange]

Because they are Jordan's wannabes, ring chasers, that fall short in the big moments and are constantly bailout by teammates, and are delusional idiots that are more interested in their "Legacy", translation "winning more than Jordan" than just playing the game and let us enjoy their greatness...

On top of that, their fanbase is compose of annoying 9 year olds and they are hyped to the point of nausea by ESPN.


This is the generic stuff, going into the specifics would be tiresome, there's just so many stuff.

[DaHeezy]

I addressed the Key Points in your post regarding Magic Johnson. I brought up points on why Jordan Fans may think he edges out Magic on All Time lists. I didn't bring up stats, or try to downplay Magic in any way, yet you call me a moron. There was absolutely no insecurity in my response at all. Level headed post, just like you like it, yet you still wanna b!tch.

All of that fluff about your past feelings for Kobe were moot to me, because I was responding to your original post quoting me about you being a Magic Johnson Fan.

Because you're an idiot, I'll highlight what EVERYBODY elsy read


Originally Posted by DaHeezy
FYI, I'm a Magic Johnson fan. Since I'm from Vancouver I've never had an affiliation with a team. The Grizzlies when they were here, and Seattle growing up because the exposure, but no real commitment so I followed players. You obviously don't know me as a poster and since you insist on questioning my integrity, when I first joined EZ board 10 years ago I was a big time Kobe hater. They once had a "who's the biggest Kobe hater" thread and I was top 10. As a Magic Johnson fan I wasn't gonna have anyone rank Kobe over Magic, especially as an all-time Laker. You know what I noticed? The more I'd bash Kobe, the more the Jordan fanboys would have my back. All's good right? Then when it comes to me expressing my opinion of Magic as the greatest of all-time, the very same Jordan minions who supported my views on Kobe were bashing my views of Magic hard. You know what I also noticed? The Kobetards I was bashing would rarely, if at all, would counter my views. My conclusion? Jordan fans get the most insecure when anybody has an opinion on who's GOAT, especially to the Kobetards, which led me to my negative views on Jordan stans. So hear me when I say this, I don't have a problem with Jordan's greatness, his fans are a different story.To back my statement up, I bet if a poster started a thread stating Magic, Wilt, KAJ were the GOAT, not bring up any other player, not Kobe, not Lebron, not any top 10 player of all-time, my money would be that the majority of butthurtedness would come from Jordan stans.

I'm not saying I hate all Jordan fans, there are fans I respect who can articulate a debate without leading to insults, but here that's rare (yes Kobetards are the same way, but my feelings are the do it on purpose to rile people up, Jordan fans are more serious about it). I'll respect people's POV, especially level headed Jordan fans and I will gladly debate Magic vs Jordan

Conclusion, Jordians are selective readers, that's why can't stand you fuktards