Report: Jazz emerge as third team in LAC/DAL deal...

[AMISTILLILL]

Mo Williams to Utah, Odom to Clippers. This would lend credence to what a poster mentioned earlier, about Devin Harris' workouts in Utah being canceled in anticipation for a trade.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8108044/sources-utah-jazz-help-lamar-odom-los-angeles-clippers-deal

[WeGetRing2012]

Mo Williams to Utah, Odom to Clippers. This would lend credence to what a poster mentioned earlier, about Devin Harris' workouts in Utah being canceled in anticipation for a trade.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8108044/sources-utah-jazz-help-lamar-odom-los-angeles-clippers-deal

Makes more sense. I would be pissed if the Lakers used the Trade Exception on Mo Williams when we could use it on Beasley...

[AMISTILLILL]

Link to Bricklayers post about Devin Harris earlier this morning: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=269159

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

Mo Williams should deny this deal.
Opt-out and sign a long-term deal with someone.

[Haymaker]

Mo won't go back to Utah. He would rather opt out and signs for less money with a contender.

[jalbert009]

I wonder if this is also to scare Mo inti opting out? :eek:

[sagr32]

So Harris would be going to dallas in this scenario?

[soadrules]

Devin Harris possibly back to Dallas? Hahahahahah.

[AMISTILLILL]

So Harris would be going to dallas in this scenario?

Dallas wouldn't be taking back any salary. Odds are they're working on a Harris trade with someone else... maybe to move up in draft?

[TMT]

Devin Harris possibly back to Dallas? Hahahahahah.

Don't think that would be a bad scenario for him, personally. Going back to the team where he played the best ball of his career. Is a good backup option considering they most likely won't land Deron.

[2LeTTeRS]

Mo Williams should deny this deal.
Opt-out and sign a long-term deal with someone.

How is that in Mo's best interests? It makes no sense to opt out when no one with cap space needs Mo enough to pay him more than $8 mil next year. And while Utah isn't the most exciting destination they have a solid young team that made the playoffs in the tough west, and they need a point guard. This is the rare team that may reward Mo with a big pay day if he contributes as expected and the team is more successful next year than last.

If I was Mo I'd be all for this trade.

[AMISTILLILL]

In case you're keeping score, this would be Mo Williams' fourth team in five years. I'm sure he's looking for a stable starting gig after all of this moving around. Utah is a decent landing spot, where nobody is expecting a great deal from him right off the bat.

[Fiasco]

Clippers are still ****ing stupid for moving Wiliams in order to get Odom.

[WeGetRing2012]

Mo won't go back to Utah. He would rather opt out and signs for less money with a contender.

No he won't :lol

I would live in Utah for 8mil.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Didn't Dirk hate playing with Harris?

[AMISTILLILL]

Didn't Dirk hate playing with Harris?

Try reading the article.

[magnax1]

Honestly, I'd rather not have Mo Williams. There has to be a better option out there... Maybe I'm just deluded though lol.

[WillyJakk]

Posted this in the initial "Odom to Clippers" thread in response to Mo Williams maybe going to Lakers:


Great idea.

Utah was the 1st team that came to mind w/ a TE large enough to absorb Mo', he could go back where it all started but yeah, LA Lakers need a capable PG in the worst way and yes their TE from LO ironically is big enough to get them Mo'.

Re-unite him w/ Mike Brown.

Guess my initial hunch was right, I think Mo' and Harris will be a decent PG combo, not to mention the fact that they'll both be expiring along w/ Big Al and Paul Millsap, Utah will have several great assets come trade deadline time.

Hell, IF I'm Utah, I'd make a play for Deron Williams LOL cause after all,

they do have the assets to get him as well as have a very nice team around him.

Can you say Kevin O'Connor's masterplan?

[NOHCP3]

Eddie Sefko of Dallas Morning News says its official

EDIT: article says its verge but also says all 3 teams have agreed? Nvmnd lol same MO's option info as OP my bad

Link (http://www.sportsfanlive.com/web/article?action=viewArticle&articleId=12579347&team=nba-dallas_mavericks&tid=twitter)

[qrich]

still dont wanna do this deal but rather utah than the lakers i guess if odom pans out clippers retain his bird years this way

[Clippersfan86]

still dont wanna do this deal but rather utah than the lakers i guess if odom pans out clippers retain his bird years this way

Like this much more than addressing Lakers biggest weakness.

[devin112]

Better be a good reason why the Clippers didn't trade Mo to Utah for the trade exception and then wait for DAL to cut LO.

[Clippersfan86]

Better be a good reason why the Clippers didn't trade Mo to Utah for the trade exception and then wait for DAL to cut LO.

Think of it this way. How successful do you think Roeser+Sterling would be negotiating with free agents (Odom's agent etc).

[R.I.P.]

Thank God he

[PickernRoller]

Like this much more than addressing Lakers biggest weakness.

Don't backstab me like that...:rolleyes:

[qrich]

Better be a good reason why the Clippers didn't trade Mo to Utah for the trade exception and then wait for DAL to cut LO.

all i can think of is lamars bird rights

[devin112]

Think of it this way. How successful do you think Roeser+Sterling would be negotiating with free agents (Odom's agent etc).

LO is desperate to get back to LA and continue his Hollywood/Khole life. Way I see it, it's either MIA or LAC. Clippers would be offering the same as other teams in terms of salary. End of the day, if they trade MO for TE, they have 8 million and if they don't get LO, no big deal. Amnesty Gnomes and they freed up 12 million. LO can suck a d!ck.

[Xiao Yao You]

Mo won't go back to Utah. He would rather opt out and signs for less money with a contender.

He wants to start. He starts in Utah.


I'd rather not have Mo Williams. There has to be a better option out there

He's like the 2nd coming compared to Harris. He can shoot which they need desperately. He knows the offense already to some degree anyway. He's another scorer which they could use with their inside only attack. He wouldn't have worked if Jerry was still coach but under Ty with Hayward able to run the offense from the wing he might be a great fit.


I think Mo' and Harris will be a decent PG combo, not to mention the fact that they'll both be expiring along w/ Big Al and Paul Millsap, Utah will have several great assets come trade deadline time.

Hopefully they'll still be able to get a young pg to go with Mo and Tinsley and Harris and the head of the Spurs fan club Jefferson will be gone before training camp open. Millsap signed to an extention.


Hell, IF I'm Utah, I'd make a play for Deron Williams LOL cause after all,

they do have the assets to get him as well as have a very nice team around him.

Can you say Kevin O'Connor's masterplan?

Deron already said he wouldn't go back to Utah.

[blacknapalm]

good. utah can have him. never wanted mo - guy takes dumb shots and misses way too many defensive assignments and rotations. terrible awareness and misses everything in the playoffs

[devin112]

all i can think of is lamars bird rights

Long shot, but I'm hoping for a pick. Second round should be pretty good.

[Reverend Hoops]

Very interesting deal if Devin Harris is involved.

http://www.nba.com/media/clippers/odom0203_freethrow.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/196186_10151827266845268_1335245325_n.jpg

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/images/photos/001/383/711/73977939_crop_650x440.jpg

[Clippersfan86]

Don't backstab me like that...:rolleyes:

I don't wish any ill will on Lakers fans nor the team. I wish you guys well and all.. but at the end of the day we ARE division rivals man. I have no negative feelings IF it just so happens we trade a player to you but would I prefer the Clippers make the Lakers better? Obviously not. I want the Clippers to win their first division title every next year and with Mo Williams you guys would be the biggest obstacle.

Basically it's nothing personal :cheers: .

[Clippersfan86]

all i can think of is lamars bird rights

Which brings up an important point. Odom is only 32 and has a skill based game (not athletic) so he can easily give 4-5 more good years IF he's dedicated and focused. Having his bird rights is huge because IF he returns to very good player status we can go over cap to keep him.

Griffin
CP3
Odom
DJ
Bledsoe

Is one of hell of a core if they can get on the same page.

[Clippersfan86]

LO is desperate to get back to LA and continue his Hollywood/Khole life. Way I see it, it's either MIA or LAC. Clippers would be offering the same as other teams in terms of salary. End of the day, if they trade MO for TE, they have 8 million and if they don't get LO, no big deal. Amnesty Gnomes and they freed up 12 million. LO can suck a d!ck.

It's win/win no matter what. If trade goes through it's a straight swap and Odom>Mo for what we need. If Mo declines to pick up his option it's even better because we can shed Mo's cap AND sign Odom for very cheap.

[PickernRoller]

I don't wish any ill will on Lakers fans nor the team. I wish you guys well and all.. but at the end of the day we ARE division rivals man. I have no negative feelings IF it just so happens we trade a player to you but would I prefer the Clippers make the Lakers better? Obviously not. I want the Clippers to win their first division title every next year and with Mo Williams you guys would be the biggest obstacle.

Basically it's nothing personal :cheers: .

Just messing......in Mitch we trust. :D :cheers:

[Clippersfan86]

Just messing......in Mitch we trust. :oldlol: :cheers:

:cheers: I'm sure you guys as always will skip the lengthy rebuild stage every other team has to endure.

[RazorBaLade]

:cheers: I'm sure you guys as always will skip the lengthy rebuild stage every other team has to endure.

i just realized the clippers have been in rebuild stage for 55 years

[Xiao Yao You]

Very interesting deal if Devin Harris is involved.

http://www.nba.com/media/clippers/odom0203_freethrow.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/196186_10151827266845268_1335245325_n.jpg

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/images/photos/001/383/711/73977939_crop_650x440.jpg

He's not. I'm guessing Dallas might be interested in him later after their roster starts to come together.


Brian T. Smith: Mo Williams' agent, Mark Bartelstein, has strong ties to Jazz. Represents four players on Utah's 2011-12 roster. Twitter

The Jazz trade exception is for 10.8 million dollars. Jazz can trade for player of 10.8 or less, look around the NBA and not a lot of players, maybe none better than Mo Williams who earn less than 10.8 million and will be available. Moreover, have only 1 year on their deal allowing the Jazz to maintain flexibility for the 13-14 off-season. Marion is 8.6 but has another year. Marvin Williams in 8.3 but has another year. Sulia

Those last two guys can't shoot so Williams is a better call.

[WeGetRing2012]

Very interesting deal if Devin Harris is involved.

http://www.nba.com/media/clippers/odom0203_freethrow.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/196186_10151827266845268_1335245325_n.jpg

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/images/photos/001/383/711/73977939_crop_650x440.jpg

:lebronamazed:

[UtahJazzFan88]

Clippers are still ****ing stupid for moving Wiliams in order to get Odom.

You guys already have Eric Bledsoe who has shown promise, I think it's a good deal.

I really hope we move Harris and start Mo, Mo isn't anything overly better than Harris but can shoot the 3 better. Harris + Mo's contracts are way too much to both be on the team.

[Xiao Yao You]

You guys already have Eric Bledsoe who has shown promise, I think it's a good deal.

I really hope we move Harris and start Mo, Mo isn't anything overly better than Harris but can shoot the 3 better. Harris + Mo's contracts are way too much to both be on the team.

He's better period. He showed he could play with a good team in Cleveland not just the hero ball Harris prefers.

[StateOfMind12]

Clippers are still ****ing stupid for moving Wiliams in order to get Odom.
There is a logjam at the guard spot for the Clippers so it makes sense why LAC is trying to move Mo for a front-court player. Also, I would definitely rather have Bledsoe receive playing time than Williams. Blesdoe is a pretty good player and he'll be a much player than Mo ever was even though I don't like Bledsoe.

[Clippersfan86]

He's better period. He showed he could play with a good team in Cleveland not just the hero ball Harris prefers.

Mo Williams is SIGNIFICANTLY better than Harris. Even Dallas Harris was only just comparable to Mo. Mo just put up 14.4 and 3 or something like that off the bench. In starting role year before he put up what 15 and 6?

[qrich]

thinking more on it, gettinglamars bird rights could end up being a very good thing. if only we cd get a 2nd round pick in return as well for drew gordon or jared cunningham

[Clippersfan86]

@ramonashelburne

[Clippersfan86]

Dan Woike: According to the AP, Mo Williams will pick up his option -- and that means he's headed to Utah and Lamar Odom headed to Clippers.

[kentatm]

I'd rather have Mo over Harris.

Mo is basically a younger Jason Terry.

[Clippersfan86]

I'd rather have Mo over Harris.

Mo is basically a younger Jason Terry.

Yup. Mo will help Utah for sure. Their biggest Achilles heel was shooting from wing spots last year (at least that I saw, correct if wrong). Mo will shore that up and be a serious 3 point threat that can drop 3+ threes in a flurry.

[AK47DR91]

Is Kenyon still with the Clippers? Kenyon and Lamar backing up Griffin and DAJ is great.

If Lamar can get his head back into the game. Clippers got a really nice C/PF rotation with Lamar helping out the SF if they want to go big.

Grifin, DAJ, Odom, Kenyon...the Big 4 at the 4/5 :applause:

[Clippersfan86]

Is Kenyon still with the Clippers? Kenyon and Lamar backing up Griffin and DAJ is great.

If Lamar can get his head back into the game. Clippers got a really nice C/PF rotation with Lamar helping out the SF if they want to go big.

Grifin, DAJ, Odom, Kenyon...the Big 4 at the 4/5 :applause:

Kenyon is gone man. He wanted a starting role and pouted towards end of season. Great contributor but can't swallow his pride. Reggie Evans is a beast rebounder and okay defender though and will probably be back.

[Al Thornton]

Kenyon is gone man. He wanted a starting role and pouted towards end of season. Great contributor but can't swallow his pride.

what the fck are you talking about? seriously. when did this pouting happen?

[El Kabong]

Dig it.

So is Harris involved in this trade or not?

[Clippersfan86]

what the fck are you talking about? seriously. when did this pouting happen?

:facepalm you don't remember him being mad about being pulled and refusing to go back into the game in the 4th vs the Grizzlies? It was being reported all over. A few Clippers fans on Topbuzz witnessed it. Not to mention according to a couple STH's Kenyon seemed to have a couple issues on the bench towards end of season.

Guy wants more minutes and he deserves them but wrong attitude to have on a young team like this. Bad fit chemistry wise.

[Clippersfan86]

Thornton it didn't make ESPN or anything but was discussed on Clippersblog/Clipperstalk, few other rumor mills and as I said Clippers fans witnessed/reported it. Then remember when Vinny called an odd timeout and he shouted "What the fu*k!" or w/e it was?

[Skep]

Looks Official. Mo to the Jazz


BREAKING - From ESPNLA - A source told @ramonashelburne that Mo Williams has accepted trade to Utah


https://twitter.com/#!/Lockedonsports

[AK47DR91]

Looks Official. Mo to the Jazz



BREAKING - From ESPNLA - A source told @ramonashelburne that Mo Williams has accepted trade to Utah
He'll be a starter again for sure.

[Clippersfan86]

Not on her Twitter man, she's a Clippers writer and I have it up. Mo is being a little bitch and holding it up. Just pick up your fu**ing option and shut up before we trade you to the worst team in the NBA.

[UtahJazzFan88]

If Mo did indeed accept, I wonder if the Jazz will get one of the 23rd, 33rd, 34th picks in the Zeller deal with Cleveland.

If Mo doesn't pick up the option, then MAYBE at least we could get a pick for free.

[Skep]

Locke jumped the gun. Mo needs to pick up his option or the Jazz won't be won't using the TPE.

Should be done by tomorrow.

[Clippersfan86]

Locke jumped the gun. Mo needs to pick up his option or the Jazz won't be won't using the TPE.

Should be done by tomorrow.

Mo is a fu**ing emotionally weak idiot. Seriously you need time to make a decision on your future!? You are either going to a playoff team like the Lakers/Jazz... or you can fu**ing opt out and go to a lottery team. Co*ksucker.

[Clippersfan86]

Just read deal isn't expected to be officially announced till tomorrow. So basically absolutely zero reason to watch draft for Clippers fans... and the most boring draft I have seen ever with 0 trades 35 percent through.

[hawkfan]

Just read deal isn't expected to be officially announced till tomorrow. So basically absolutely zero reason to watch draft for Clippers fans... and the most boring draft I have seen ever with 0 trades 35 percent through.

Wouldn't be surprised if the Mavs do the following with the Mavs getting a trade exception in exchange for Odom:

1. Sign Louis Williams with available cap space, say 3 years, $27 million.
2. Sign and trade (with trade exception and a first round pick) for Jason Thompson (from Sacramento) - 3 years, $24 million.

Fills two needs: scoring guard off bench and a big besides Dirk.

[Xiao Yao You]

Yup. Mo will help Utah for sure. Their biggest Achilles heel was shooting from wing spots last year (at least that I saw, correct if wrong). Mo will shore that up and be a serious 3 point threat that can drop 3+ threes in a flurry.

PG was their biggest weakness followed by shooting. Mo fills both and sends Harris down the road hopefully where he belongs.


So is Harris involved in this trade or not?

no but Dallas likes him so maybe after Deron signs and they fill out their roster they can make another deal?

[Clippersfan86]

PG was their biggest weakness followed by shooting. Mo fills both and sends Harris down the road hopefully where he belongs.



no but Dallas likes him so maybe after Deron signs and they fill out their roster they can make another deal?

All I know is.... Mo needs to man the fu** up and pick up his option. Why wait till tomorrow? Doesn't even make sense. Either he agrees to go to young playoff team in Jazz or opt out and give Clippers big cap relief and we sign Odom for way cheaper this weekend.

[El Kabong]

PG was their biggest weakness followed by shooting. Mo fills both and sends Harris down the road hopefully where he belongs.



no but Dallas likes him so maybe after Deron signs and they fill out their roster they can make another deal?
You reckon they'll keep Harris and Corbin will start busting out a Harris-Williams starting backcourt?

[Xiao Yao You]

O'Conner already mentioned Harris possibly playing the 2 next year so I could see them bringing Harris off the bench as the 6th man at the 2. Only place I'd want him on the team. Burks, Hayward or a FA shooter to be named later should start at the 2.

[LockoutOver11]

great dallas got another odom... didn't they learn the first time...

[R.I.P.]

great dallas got another odom... didn't they learn the first time...

Already traded to Lakers, no kidding. :roll:

[Clippersfan86]

"A report out of Utah also said that team's management was unaware of a deal."

:roll: :roll: got to be kidding me. Odom's team probably put this shit out there :facepalm .

[Clippersfan86]

"Mo Williams update: Still could happen. Nothing set, though, and Jazz backing off somewhat. Interested, but delayed situation isn't helping. It's turning into a game between teams and agents that's being aired in public, which isn't a game Jazz usually play. Jazz have other options and free agency's two days away. Will move on and leave deal behind if situation continues to publicly unravel."

- Brian Smith, Jazz Reporter