Celtics to offer Ray Allen 2 years, 12 million

[All Net]

@Chris_Broussard: Source: Celtics willing to double (in terms of $) Heat offer to Ray Allen. Will give 2 years/$12 million. Heat can offer only $3 mill a yr

[swi7ch]

Ray's plan worked!

[jbryan1984]

I know everyone probably thinks Ainge is crazy offering KG and Allen big money (KG more so) but seriously, these "old men" took the world champions to 7 games while missing a large chunk of their bench. So, why not keep them together for longer? Lets see what they can do when healthy.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

I know everyone probably thinks Ainge is crazy offering KG and Allen big money (KG more so) but seriously, these "old men" took the world champions to 7 games while missing a large chunk of their bench. So, why not keep them together for longer? Lets see what they can do when healthy.
does this play into the $17 million the Celtics have to offer FA's?

[dbugz]

Ainge smell that Mayo aint going to sign with the Cs oe the kid is probably asking for a fat contract

[NOHCP3]

Can't see Ray turning that down. Would like to see him in Miami though.

[All Net]

Can't see Ray turning that down. Would like to see him in Miami though.

Depends what he values more...

[Pushxx]

Celtics will still purse the same SGs.

Celtics need as much depth as possible. Losing 4 people for the season with Ray and Pierce playing injured shows that.

Plus, you can never have too much shooting.

[Nash]

I always thought it wasn't about money for Ray Allen but more about the chance to start and not being benched by Avery Bradley?

But yeah, good deal for him. Don't know why Boston would pay an old guy 6m for 2 seasons though.

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

This should shut up all the misinformed people who were complaining about how Danny's been trying to get rid of Ray.

[veilside23]

allen might get a better elsewhere...

[Raz]

does this play into the $17 million the Celtics have to offer FA's?

We have no money to offer free agents. We'll be using the MLE and Bi-annual. We never had that money to spend because we didn't renounce a lot of our free agents to open up the cap space.

[nbarumorz]

I always thought it wasn't about money for Ray Allen but more about the chance to start and not being benched by Avery Bradley?

But yeah, good deal for him. Don't know why Boston would pay an old guy 6m for 2 seasons though.

Stated last year that he was totally fine with coming off the bench for Bradley. Don't know if he still will hold that stance when he is totally healthy, but if he's producing effectively he should be the starter anyway.

[nbarumorz]

We have no money to offer free agents. We'll be using the MLE and Bi-annual. We never had that money to spend because we didn't renounce a lot of our free agents to open up the cap space.

I think Celtics are still ~8M under the cap after KG and Allen. Of course Bass, Wilcox, and Green all are still unsigned.

[raprap]

I'd rather have Mayo tbh. I like the KG signing but the C's need someone for their future. Rondo, Mayo, Sullinger and Fab Melo is a promising start. But if they can't sign Mayo, just go with Bradley. Build his trade value and gets some draft picks. They can still contend without Ray.

[InfiniteBaskets]

If I'm a celtics fan, I like this move.

Keeps Ray Allen away from the Heat and to be honest, I'd rather have Allen over Bass / Wilcox / Green at this point. Bass is vital for limiting KG's minutes, but as someone else said, they are still 8m under the limit at this point. Wilcox and Green you have to be okay with letting them walk. Then you cross your fingers that the Celtics will be healthy enough to compete next year in a seemingly weak eastern conference.

I don't like this as a Heat fan obviously b/c Ray would have to be silly not to take double the money for a team he's had great success with, plus the on-court chemistry of him, KG, Pierce. I honestly think this offer was more about keeping Ray Allen away from Miami than anything else.

[All Net]

If Miami had that 3rd year it offer isn't going to be as strong. Let's see what Miami do

[KayHaven]

This should shut up all the misinformed people who were complaining about how Danny's been trying to get rid of Ray.

Ahhh all this means is that Rays team forced Dannys hand...Could you have imagined the SHITSTORM facing Bostons FO had Ray been draining 3's for Miami next year against them and Boston had not given Ray a decent contract offer...

Everyone knows Ray in Miami would be a perfect fit...all it would do is make it seem as if Boston wasn't utilizing him in the proper manner

[Kurosawa0]

Allen just gets $3 million more here. Miami will certainly offer the 3 years - $9 million. It's going to be about where he wants to go the most.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

If Ray leaves Boston, he'll never have a place he could call home once he retires.

[KayHaven]

More importantly how does this look..

Old aging Celtics don't want Ray Allen but the young dominant Champs basically are drooling all over him

[SilkkTheShocker]

I know everyone probably thinks Ainge is crazy offering KG and Allen big money (KG more so) but seriously, these "old men" took the world champions to 7 games while missing a large chunk of their bench. So, why not keep them together for longer? Lets see what they can do when healthy.


Healthy Bosh and the Heat win in 5. I know Celtics had more injury problems, but none bigger than the Bosh injury.

[Meticode]

I know everyone probably thinks Ainge is crazy offering KG and Allen big money (KG more so) but seriously, these "old men" took the world champions to 7 games while missing a large chunk of their bench. So, why not keep them together for longer? Lets see what they can do when healthy.
I still think it's a good signing if they all come back healthy. I feel they have a shot to give it one more good go. Everyone thought they were done last year, and look at what they did with a hobbled Pierce and Allen, then missing important role players for the playoffs. They'd have to get Bass back too obviously.

If they can stay healthy (big 3) they have another shot I feel...

Rondo/Bradley
Allen/?
Pierce/?
Bass/Sullinger
Garnett/Melo

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Healthy Bosh and the Heat win in 5. I know Celtics had more injury problems, but none bigger than the Bosh injury.
Honestly, you gotta expect 1 of the big 3 to be injured come Play-Off time. Especially when Wade is apart of said team.

[InfiniteBaskets]

If Ray leaves Boston, he'll never have a place he could call home once he retires.

Seattle? Storrs? Merced?

Ray / Ray's camp is the one that's forcing Boston to pay 6 million a year for him just so he doesn't play for Miami. If he had said during and after playoffs "I just want to play for Boston and only Boston, 3 mil a year would've been fine".

[francesco totti]

celtics lost back to back years to the heat, this one year older celtics wont go anywhere.but i understand there thinking, lets highlight some more conference finals or semifinals then spend time in mediocricy.look how many teams in many many years done nthg despite being in lottery and having high picks.

[longtime lurker]

If I'm a celtics fan, I like this move.

Keeps Ray Allen away from the Heat and to be honest, I'd rather have Allen over Bass / Wilcox / Green at this point. Bass is vital for limiting KG's minutes, but as someone else said, they are still 8m under the limit at this point. Wilcox and Green you have to be okay with letting them walk. Then you cross your fingers that the Celtics will be healthy enough to compete next year in a seemingly weak eastern conference.

I don't like this as a Heat fan obviously b/c Ray would have to be silly not to take double the money for a team he's had great success with, plus the on-court chemistry of him, KG, Pierce. I honestly think this offer was more about keeping Ray Allen away from Miami than anything else.

Hmm 8 million? They could/should resign Green and pick up a swing man with the MLE. The Celtics need some wing athleticism in the worst way possible.

[LA_Showtime]

Depends what he values more...

He would do well to stay in Boston. Right now I'd say he's set to have his jersey retired along with Pierce and KG, but if he were to leave, especially to the Miami freaking Heat, I could see them NOT putting his jersey in the rafters.

[ProfessorMurder]

I always thought it wasn't about money for Ray Allen but more about the chance to start and not being benched by Avery Bradley?

But yeah, good deal for him. Don't know why Boston would pay an old guy 6m for 2 seasons though.

The only teams Ray would start on are terrible. If he's not happy about coming off the bench then LAL, LAC, MIA, DAL, OKC, etc. shouldn't even be in the conversation. He would come off the bench for almost everyone.



Ray was putting up Godly numbers before his ankle stuff. Unreal percentages and great stats. He shot like 50/50/90 for 2 months.

[Raz]

I think Celtics are still ~8M under the cap after KG and Allen. Of course Bass, Wilcox, and Green all are still unsigned.

No we're not. We didn't renounce our rights to the MLE, bi-annual, Green, Bass, Pietrus or a few others.

That means we have no cap space because we have cap holds for certain players. Once we re-sign Allen, Jeff Green (we have his Bird rights), and potentially Bass -we will be at the salary cap.

Stop talking about cap space.

[TheNaturalWR]

If Ray wants to add rings to his legacy, he'll go to the Heat with zero hesitation.

[Tmuston Beltics]

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6332/1328394003321.jpg

[InfiniteBaskets]

Hmm 8 million? They could/should resign Green and pick up a swing man with the MLE. The Celtics need some wing athleticism in the worst way possible.

As long as they can ride Rondo's penetration and passing abilities, you won't need anyone who's a high flyer at the starting lineup. You may need Green for offensive relief when Rondo's on the bench, but you don't have to pay him specifically as there are other options out there.

[ImmortalD24]

I'd rather have Mayo tbh.
You are nuts. Are you a Celtics fan? Give me a 38 year old Ray Allen over OJ Mayo.

[Killbot]

Take the contract Jesus. Stay green.

[BlueandGold]

I admire the loyalty from the celtics braintrust. With the celtics you know at least the loyalty isn't a one-way street. KG has been incredibly loyal, allen and pierce too. I would like to see all three of them retire as celtics.

[Eat Like A Bosh]

Definitely want to see Ray, KG and Paul retire as Celtics.

[LBJDW305]

Celtics clearly don't plan on changing or contending anytime soon with these contracs

[Meticode]

Celtics clearly don't plan on changing or contending anytime soon with these contracs
This is contradicting. They just contended with the Heat to 7 games and came into the playoffs limping.

[BallsOut]

Depends what he values more...

And what the hell is this supposed to mean? If Ray stays with the Celtics, he has just as good of a chance as getting another ring. They choked away the final 2 games against the Heat. The injury to Bradley and the refs being on the Heat's side ended up being too much. A few tweaks here and there and Boston is right there next season.

Ray Allen has been one of my favorite players. The guy has great character, but joining the Heat to coattail Lebron/Wade/Bosh to a ring would be disgraceful after the career he's had. Stay loyal Ray, that's how people want to remember you.

[BigTicket]

I know everyone probably thinks Ainge is crazy offering KG and Allen big money (KG more so) but seriously, these "old men" took the world champions to 7 games while missing a large chunk of their bench. So, why not keep them together for longer? Lets see what they can do when healthy.

They'd need a lot of luck to get through the playoffs healthier than they were this year. When your core is as old as their is, injuries are the norm rather than the exception.

Also, a healthy Celtics team no longer beats a healthy Heat or Bulls team.

[I<3NBA]

Celtics just got played by Allen :lol he got them for more money than they were willing to shell. and all he had to do was threaten to go to Miami :lol

[Meticode]

And what the hell is this supposed to mean? If Ray stays with the Celtics, he has just as good of a chance as getting another ring. They choked away the final 2 games against the Heat. The injury to Bradley and the refs being on the Heat's side ended up being too much. A few tweaks here and there and Boston is right there next season.

Ray Allen has been one of my favorite players. The guy has great character, but joining the Heat to coattail Lebron/Wade/Bosh to a ring would be disgraceful after the career he's had. Stay loyal Ray, that's how people want to remember you.
People will argue about Bosh being injured too. Bosh being injured probably effected Miami more than any of the Celtics injuries. While that's an opinionated statement I personally feel the Celtics have another good year at least left in them if they can at least stay healthy. Hopefully with a normal season coming up and time to heal they can do that. If they get Bass back I expect Bass and Sullinger and Melo to get a lot of experience because I expect Rivers to tone down Garnett/Allen/Pierce's minutes.

[longtime lurker]

As long as they can ride Rondo's penetration and passing abilities, you won't need anyone who's a high flyer at the starting lineup. You may need Green for offensive relief when Rondo's on the bench, but you don't have to pay him specifically as there are other options out there.

No they need someone that can keep up with the athleticism of the Heat. Lebron and Dwade feast on their perimeter D. They need a mix of athleticism and experience on the perimeter.

[BallsOut]

They'd need a lot of luck to get through the playoffs healthier than they were this year. When your core is as old as their is, injuries are the norm rather than the exception.

Also, a healthy Celtics team no longer beats a healthy Heat or Bulls team.

Keep talking out of your ass like you know what's going to happen. That's why the Celtics beat the Heat 3-1 last season when pretty much everyone was healthy right?

[Mach_3]

Healthy Bosh and the Heat win in 5. I know Celtics had more injury problems, but none bigger than the Bosh injury.

2 of our starters were injured while our bench was decimated, please take your ignorance elsewhere

[Kingwillball]

Good Play by Ray use the Celtics for More $. Heat could of Used him now looks like that wont happen. Hoewever, Celtics keeping there core in tact cause they took MIami to 7 is a bit near sighted and will hurt them long term instead of blowing it up and adding some fresh blood. They still wont beat Miami but hey as long as they dont mind be a Good team a Playoff team and not a champion the next 3 or 4 years that good for them. After that they will have to rebuild from the ground up and start over. So just delaying the inevitable.

[Kingwillball]

2 of our starters were injured while our bench was decimated, please take your ignorance elsewhere


blah blah blah.. Celtics aren't beating the heat anytime soon in a series. UNLESS Lebron and or Wade is injured.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Good Play by Ray use the Celtics for More $. Heat could of Used him now looks like that wont happen. Hoewever, Celtics keeping there core in tact cause they took MIami to 7 is a bit near sighted and will hurt them long term instead of blowing it up and adding some fresh blood. They still wont beat Miami but hey as long as they dont mind be a Good team a Playoff team and not a champion the next 3 or 4 years that good for them. After that they will have to rebuild from the ground up and start over. So just delaying the inevitable.
win/win move for the heat.

[Darius]

Was hoping Clippers would make a play for him at the MLE.

He could start and still be on a good team.

[InfiniteBaskets]

No they need someone that can keep up with the athleticism of the Heat. Lebron and Dwade feast on their perimeter D. They need a mix of athleticism and experience on the perimeter.
No NBA team will be able to sign a FA this offseason with athleticism to keep up with Lebron. And the Celtics won't be able to sign anyone for 8 mil who can do a better job on Wade than Avery Bradley can. You take whatever you have left and offer it to Bass or whoever can provide KG some help.

[BallsOut]

No NBA team will be able to sign a FA this offseason with athleticism to keep up with Lebron. And the Celtics won't be able to sign anyone for 8 mil who can do a better job on Wade than Avery Bradley can. You take whatever you have left and offer it to Bass or whoever can provide KG some help.

Grant Hill and DeShawn Stevenson are two free agents the Celtics can and should get to stop Lebron.

[Hittin_Shots]

blah blah blah.. Celtics aren't beating the heat anytime soon in a series. UNLESS Lebron and or Wade is injured.

I can, Lebron's got his ring now, i don't see why refs would hand them anymore wins.

[Nash]

Basically, he's taking more money to be Avery Bradley's reserve than Dwyane Wade. Its easy to be loyal when you're undoubtedly #1 like KG and Pierce.

Enjoy running through screens for the rest of your time Ray. All of that running itself will shorten your career. With Miami you just have to stand on that corner and hit those open 3's.

Man, I was really interested in seeing Ray and his 3's in Miami. Would have been fantastic basketball.

[jbot]

this is good for ray, bad for boston. let him walk and just sign another guy to stand in the corner like a bad student.

[BallsOut]

Basically, he's taking more money to be Avery Bradley's reserve than Dwyane Wade. Its easy to be loyal when you're undoubtedly #1 like KG and Pierce.

Enjoy running through screens for the rest of your time Ray. All of that running itself will shorten your career. With Miami you just have to stand on that corner and hit those open 3's.

Man, I was really interested in seeing Ray and his 3's in Miami. Would have been fantastic basketball.

Ray Allen is a high character guy. He doesn't take the easy way out like Lebron. He prefers to work for his rewards.

[AMISTILLILL]

Basically, he's taking more money to be Avery Bradley's reserve than Dwyane Wade. Its easy to be loyal when you're undoubtedly #1 like KG and Pierce.

Enjoy running through screens for the rest of your time Ray. All of that running itself will shorten your career. With Miami you just have to stand on that corner and hit those open 3's.

Man, I was really interested in seeing Ray and his 3's in Miami. Would have been fantastic basketball.

Um... Ray would be running through just as many screens in Miami as he would in Boston. The guy turns 37 in a matter of weeks and you're talking about his career getting cut short like he's not already aware of his limitations and how little time he's got left in the league. :rolleyes:

Yes, go to Miami for peanuts and be relegated to a spot-up shooter role, a la 2010-2011 Eddie House. Fantastic way to end a Hall Of Fame career.

What you're suggesting is no better than what he'd have in Boston. Not starting doesn't mean anything. Look back on many of those Boston teams from '09 up until '11, where Perkins would start but Boston finished with Big Baby. Not being a starter doesn't automatically mean your minutes get slashed. Look at Jason Terry or Manu.

[LBJDW305]

As long as he doesn't go to the heat this is a success :bowdown: Makes it a little easier for the Wizards to contend this year!

Wizards contending...... :yaohappy:

[Nash]

Um... Ray would be running through just as many screens in Miami as he would in Boston. The guy turns 37 in a matter of weeks and you're talking about his career getting cut short like he's not already aware of his limitations and how little time he's got left in the league. :rolleyes:

Yes, go to Miami for peanuts and be relegated to a spot-up shooter role, a la 2010-2011 Eddie House. Fantastic way to end a Hall Of Fame career.

What you're suggesting is no better than what he'd have in Boston. Not starting doesn't mean anything. Look back on many of those Boston teams from '09 up until '11, where Perkins would start but Boston finished with Big Baby. Not being a starter doesn't automatically mean your minutes get slashed. Look at Jason Terry or Manu.
His role would be so much bigger in Heat. There are only 3 players that are more important than him if he goes there. In Boston, there are plenty of other players ahead of him in the pecking order. He'd actually be needed in Miami.

I'm just salty as hell for not being able to see Ray with Lebron and the boys, but I can totally understand why he'd take the money and why he'd want to stay with his boys KG and Pierce.

[BallsOut]

His role would be so much bigger in Heat. There are only 3 players that are more important than him if he goes there. In Boston, there are plenty of other players ahead of him in the pecking order. He'd actually be needed in Miami.

I'm just salty as hell for not being able to see Ray with Lebron and the boys, but I can totally understand why he'd take the money and why he'd want to stay with his boys KG and Pierce.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Quit making shit up. The pecking order is at worst, the same in Boston, Rondo, Pierce, KG then Allen. Not to mention Ray may even start for the Celtics. No way he starts over Wade in Miami.

Let's talk about what happened to the last so called veteran shooters that joined Miami and where their careers are now:

Eddie House - is this guy still in the league?
Mike Bibby - 3rd string PG for the Knicks, probably going to get waived
Shane Battier - immense ridicule, labeled scrub for missing shots
Mike Miller - point forward reduced to a 3pt shooter, forced to set screens for Lebron/Wade causing him to have recurring back injuries
James Jones - mysteriously taken off of the rotation after an incredible 3pt shooting season with the Heat
Ray Allen - yea u get the point

They won't reward you in Miami Ray, they'll just milk you for what you're worth and throw you under the bus when they don't win. You don't deserve to go out like that. "Jesus" sounds a lot better than "Devil"

[BlueandGold]

His role would be so much bigger in Heat. There are only 3 players that are more important than him if he goes there. In Boston, there are plenty of other players ahead of him in the pecking order. He'd actually be needed in Miami.

I'm just salty as hell for not being able to see Ray with Lebron and the boys, but I can totally understand why he'd take the money and why he'd want to stay with his boys KG and Pierce.
I'd say the opposite of what you said is true. Allen is a respected veteran on the Celtics and knows the organization inside and out at this point. When you've been somewhere for a long time you get to know the organization top down, from the owner to the ball boys that routinely fetch loose balls. There is a comfortable level factor that people take for granted. Who knows how long it would have taken Allen to adjust in Miami (prob not long though since he's a vet). Also Allen's impact in Boston would most likely be much greater in Boston compared to Miami as he has an incredible chemistry and friendship with everyone on the Boston squad, KG/Pierce/Rondo specifically. You can't just overlook factors like that.

[Linspired]

this is a proof that current NBA lacks center depth. i wouldn't call it a centerless era anymore, but still guys like hibbert is an interchangeable piece, not a cornerstone of the franchise.

[Nash]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Quit making shit up. The pecking order is at worst, the same in Boston, Rondo, Pierce, KG then Allen. Not to mention Ray may even start for the Celtics. No way he starts over Wade in Miami.

Let's talk about what happened to the last so called veteran shooters that joined Miami and where their careers are now:

Eddie House - is this guy still in the league?
Mike Bibby - 3rd string PG for the Knicks, probably going to get waived
Shane Battier - immense ridicule, labeled scrub for missing shots
Mike Miller - point forward reduced to a 3pt shooter, forced to set screens for Lebron/Wade causing him to have recurring back injuries
James Jones - mysteriously taken off of the rotation after an incredible 3pt shooting season with the Heat
Ray Allen - yea u get the point

They won't reward you in Miami Ray, they'll just milk you for what you're worth and throw you under the bus when they don't win. You don't deserve to go out like that. "Jesus" sounds a lot better than "Devil"
So you forgot about Ray being Avery Bradley's reserve or what? Or the fact that Boston tried to trade him away? Or the fact that he's not valued as highyl as KG, Pierce and Rondo?

And the fact that you're comparing Ray Allen to House, James Jones and handicapped Mike Miller is just stupid. He's way better than all of those players you mentioned and would have been very important piece on a side that is extremely top heavy. Just look at a guy like Shane Battier who was getting so much playing time and he's not even half the player Ray is.

[TheMarkMadsen]

this is a proof that current NBA lacks center depth. i wouldn't call it a centerless era anymore, but still guys like hibbert is an interchangeable piece, not a cornerstone of the franchise.

You're right,Ray Allens newest contract offer is proof the NBA lacks depth at center.
:biggums:

[Linspired]

ray ray is a smart business man

[Faptastrophe]

Memphis has offered full midlevel to Ray Allen for 2 yrs.

https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/219494855414513664

[Nash]

Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard

Allen weighing 3 factors in decision: 1 - chances of competing for title; 2 - role on team; & 3 - money offered

[AMISTILLILL]

this is a proof that current NBA lacks center depth. i wouldn't call it a centerless era anymore, but still guys like hibbert is an interchangeable piece, not a cornerstone of the franchise.

:confusedshrug:

[AMISTILLILL]

Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard

Allen weighing 3 factors in decision: 1 - chances of competing for title; 2 - role on team; & 3 - money offered

Shocking insight Broussard. :rolleyes:

[BallsOut]

Memphis has offered full midlevel to Ray Allen for 2 yrs.

https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/219494855414513664

Sweet. Boston's offer is still better, but at least there are other teams interested.

[PP34Deuce]

lol i think danny is thinking like this...

big 3 contracts.would come off the books right around when rondos up for renewal...

ainge does not trust rondo rebuilding.. hes going to maximize this team and then completely start from scratch right around same time doc is up. these moves suggest doc having more leverage being highly respected. doc is not trying to rebuild

[AMISTILLILL]

So you forgot about Ray being Avery Bradley's reserve or what? Or the fact that Boston tried to trade him away? Or the fact that he's not valued as highyl as KG, Pierce and Rondo?

He was Bradley's reserve after he sat out with injuries and Bradley flourished in that period of time. He continued to remain as Bradley's reserve because of his bone spurs. He went back into the starting lineup when Bradley missed the rest of the post-season with his shoulder injury.

Are you a Celtics fan? I feel like if you were, you wouldn't be making so many assumptions and drawing weird conclusions about their roster.

[BallsOut]

He was Bradley's reserve after he sat out with injuries and Bradley flourished in that period of time. He continued to remain as Bradley's reserve because of his bone spurs. He went back into the starting lineup when Bradley missed the rest of the post-season with his shoulder injury.

Are you a Celtics fan? I feel like if you were, you wouldn't be making so many assumptions and drawing weird conclusions about their roster.

He's a well known Lebron stan posing as a Nash fan.

[9erempiree]

They have been talking about replacing the big 3 for years and this is what they do?

Resign KG.

Resign Ray Allen.

[AMISTILLILL]

They have been talking about replacing the big 3 for years and this is what they do?

Resign KG.

Resign Ray Allen.

If you consider their available options for that price tag, this was a smart move. It syncs up multiple contracts to end around the same time, allowing the front office to let guys walk, retire, or opt to resign for one year contracts. KG is top 5 at his position and, to this day, garners DPOY considerations. Mayo will want to get paid, and odds are guys like Jason Terry will as well. Outside of that, their choices are limited. Eric Gordon wasn't realistic for Boston.

In doing this, Boston also take a player out of the equation for in conference rivals like Miami.

[Derka]

I always thought it wasn't about money for Ray Allen but more about the chance to start and not being benched by Avery Bradley?

But yeah, good deal for him. Don't know why Boston would pay an old guy 6m for 2 seasons though.

At which point Miami makes even less sense. Sitting the bench behind Wade + half the money he could make in Boston.

[Derka]

They have been talking about replacing the big 3 for years and this is what they do?

Resign KG.

Resign Ray Allen.

Dumb fans have been talking about replacing the Big 3. ESPN has been talking about replacing the Big 3.

The Boston Celtics have never talked about replacing the Big 3. Danny listens to all offers and jumps where he thinks he can make the team better...but he's not out there saying "This is over, these guys can't compete." A Celtics team at 50-75% just competed against the eventual world champs.

[D-Rose]

At first, I thought getting KG and Ray back would be sort of a step backwards with the possibility of a fresh start here, but looking at it again...they have more cap room and surrounding the big four with youth and depth will take them a long way at another title.

[PP34Deuce]

If you consider their available options for that price tag, this was a smart move. It syncs up multiple contracts to end around the same time, allowing the front office to let guys walk, retire, or opt to resign for one year contracts. KG is top 5 at his position and, to this day, garners DPOY considerations. Mayo will want to get paid, and odds are guys like Jason Terry will as well. Outside of that, their choices are limited. Eric Gordon wasn't realistic for Boston.

In doing this, Boston also take a player out of the equation for in conference rivals like Miami.

these moves screamed doc and rondo. danny doesnt trust rondo on a rebuilding team nor does doc. when these contracts end rondo will be 29 and they will decide if they wamna pay him or start from scratch with others.

[LA_Showtime]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8119234/2012-nba-free-agency-boston-celtics-memphis-grizzlies-join-miami-heat-ray-allen-chase-sources-say

"Boston Celtics join Miami Heat in Ray Allen Chase."

Am I the only one who thinks that sounds retarded? Of course the Celtics are interested in resigning Allen. Since when has resigning a player = chasing them? :coleman:

[AMISTILLILL]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8119234/2012-nba-free-agency-boston-celtics-memphis-grizzlies-join-miami-heat-ray-allen-chase-sources-say

"Boston Celtics join Miami Heat in Ray Allen Chase."

Am I the only one who thinks that sounds retarded? Of course the Celtics are interested in resigning Allen. Since when has resigning a player = chasing them? :coleman:

It's ESPN, who have been under the assumption that Ray to Miami has been some sort of foregone conclusion for awhile now. :rolleyes:

[Derka]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8119234/2012-nba-free-agency-boston-celtics-memphis-grizzlies-join-miami-heat-ray-allen-chase-sources-say

"Boston Celtics join Miami Heat in Ray Allen Chase."

Am I the only one who thinks that sounds retarded? Of course the Celtics are interested in resigning Allen. Since when has resigning a player = chasing them? :coleman:

Its ESPN. The notion that someone wouldn't want to ride on Lebron's coattails doesn't really compute over there.

[Celtic_Pride]

No they need someone that can keep up with the athleticism of the Heat. Lebron and Dwade feast on their perimeter D. They need a mix of athleticism and experience on the perimeter.

Bradley and Green will provide the necessary athleticism which was lacking for the Celtics last conference finals.

With Pierce, Allen, Green, Bradley that's a perfect mix of experience, outside shooting and athleticism on the perimeter!

[BallsOut]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8119234/2012-nba-free-agency-boston-celtics-memphis-grizzlies-join-miami-heat-ray-allen-chase-sources-say

"Boston Celtics join Miami Heat in Ray Allen Chase."

Am I the only one who thinks that sounds retarded? Of course the Celtics are interested in resigning Allen. Since when has resigning a player = chasing them? :coleman:

They make it sound as though Allen never played for the Celtics before :oldlol:

[HEAT111]

Jordan Schultz ‏@206Child
Ray Allen is almost signed, sealed and delivered in Miami source says. ‪#heat‬ ‪#nbafreeagency

Interesting.

[Foster5k]

Obviously, he is going to take the Celtic's offer. No way he turns down that bread. Plus, he already has a ring.

[Tenchi Ryu]

Don't see the point of him going to Miami now. He's gonna get paid in Boston, already has a ring, and a guaranteed HOF'er. And he's not really the kind of guy who is hunting for multiple rings, especially this late in his career.

[All Net]

Interesting.

Who?

[Kurosawa0]

Who?

I looked it up. He's Huffington Post's sports reporter.

[All Net]

I looked it up. He's Huffington Post's sports reporter.

He seems pretty sure that ray is going there...

[Kurosawa0]

He seems pretty sure that ray is going there...

I've seen similar tweets like that. Won't believe it until I see it actually reported that he's going to Miami.

[Heavincent]

Depends what he values more...

Loyalty and cash vs ring chasing

[coin24]

Loyalty?? Fu*k Boston!!!

What is wrong with some of you? They wanted to trade him anyway.
How is ray taking a pay cut to play for the heat a bad thing??

Pure hate:facepalm


Plus Boston are done anyway..

[Derka]

Lol, tried to trade him is apparently the same thing as listened to offers for him nowadays.

[HEAT111]

Lol, tried to trade him is apparently the same thing as listened to offers for him nowadays.

Didnt Rivers confirm that he was about to get traded?

[Raz]

If he goes to Miami, I hope he has a productive season, and then we CRUSH him in the playoffs - like Bradley has the clamps on him and we destroy him for leaving. All in the name of competition.

[Derka]

Didnt Rivers confirm that he was about to get traded?

About to get traded isn't the same thing as actively shopping the guy. Memphis made an offer, Boston listened. Need it be restated that Boston ultimately said "No, we're keeping Ray"? Apparently that counts for nothing.

[TheTruth#34]

Loyalty?? Fu*k Boston!!!

What is wrong with some of you? They wanted to trade him anyway.
How is ray taking a pay cut to play for the heat a bad thing??

Pure hate:facepalm


Plus Boston are done anyway..

Boston are done? What do you base this on other you wishing it was true?

[BlackWhiteGreen]

$6m per is too much for Ray. He is a shooter and nothing else at this point in his career.

[TheTruth#34]

$6m per is too much for Ray. He is a shooter and nothing else at this point in his career.

I'd rather pay him than see him sign for the cHeat

[UConnCeltics]

About to get traded isn't the same thing as actively shopping the guy. Memphis made an offer, Boston listened. Need it be restated that Boston ultimately said "No, we're keeping Ray"? Apparently that counts for nothing.
They had a deal in place, Doc told him he was being traded to Memphis then at the last moment it fell apart and he then told him he was staying.

[ballup]

Not a bad deal if it goes down. Allen would still be effective as a role player if healthy.

[coin24]

Boston are done? What do you base this on other you wishing it was true?

Based on they only made the ecf because the east was pathetically depleted..
Atlanta and Philly? Please..

With bosh in the lineup the heat rape them in 5...

[JohnnySic]

I hope they still make a run at Mayo...

[Jasper]

waste of money ...

time to invest in a slasher and dasher

[CelticBaller]

Ray allen was playing injured, if we looking to reload I'll love to have him back :cheers:

[TheTruth#34]

Based on they only made the ecf because the east was pathetically depleted..
Atlanta and Philly? Please..

With bosh in the lineup the heat rape them in 5...

Pathetically depleted? Because Rose went down? Not the Celtics fault Chicago bottled it, they should've dealt with the 6ers regardless

You're also conveniently ignoring how depleted the C's were,the pathetic ref calls Miami got, and we still took them to 7 games

We're in a much better position than your mob thats for sure.

[nextlife]

When do you think we'll know ray's decision?