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BlackVVaves
07-01-2012, 06:38 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1243207-nba-rumors-executives-reportedly-believe-chris-paul-wants-to-play-for-knicks



Chris Paul denied the Los Angeles Clippers' three-year extension offer Saturday night, according to Broderick Turner of the Los Angeles Times.

Naturally, this leads to heavy speculation concerning the All-Star point guard's future. Frank Isola, New York Daily News' Knicks beat writer, shed some light on the situation at hand.


This isn't a new idea. Before Paul was sent from the New Orleans Hornets to the Clippers, the Knicks were believed to be his destination of choice. When Paul denied the Clippers' three-year, $60 million extension offer on Saturday, the Knicks became an obvious, if unrealistic, candidate. It's probably safe to assume that Paul rejected the extension in pursuit of a maximum contract after next season, but his interest in the Knicks hasn't ceased for a reason.

As Isola notes, this isn't going to happen this summer. The Knicks owe Tyson Chandler, Carmelo Anthony and Amar'e Stoudemire approximately $57 million in the 2013-14 season.

After that, the Knicks have an option to terminate Anthony and Stoudemire's contracts. That will depend on their individual performance and how the team fares next year.

The Knicks would have to shed one of these two major contracts if they want to bring Paul to New York, and that''s what they should do.

Stoudemire is frequently injured and has lost a lot of the explosiveness that made him an All-Star early in his career. Anthony is a defensive waste and a ball-stopper on offense.

The Knicks' brass would be smart to add Paul, who is arguably the NBA's best point guard. He would thrive playing next to either Stoudemire or Anthony, and he would make the other Knicks exponentially better.

I think it's pretty obvious the Knicks need a shot in the arm. Anthony and Stoudemire have too much of a "me-first" mentality, and Paul has already proven he can revive a beleaguered franchise. He's a leader, and he knows how to play in front of a major media market.

This could just be hearsay. Rumors generate false buzz every day, but given Paul's prior interest, you have to believe it's a possibility.

The Knicks have talented players, but they lack a leader. They need a player who puts winning ahead of everything else, and Paul does exactly that each and every night. He plays hard on both ends of the floor and isn't afraid to do the "dirty work" to grab a victory. That's something that New York's current headliners (Anthony and Stoudemire) haven't come close to proving.

Paul is in a solid situation with the Clippers, but who can blame him for liking New York? It's the mecca of all media markets, and star players in any sport have always migrated there.

Isola's NBA executives may be wrong, but this will be a major storyline until Paul signs on the dotted line.

I believe this article, or a piece of it, was posted earlier in regards to Chris Paul supposed interest in joining the New York Knicks next summer. However, this aspect of the article was no addressed -- can anyone verify this? That the Knicks had included an early termination clause in both Amare and Carmelo's contract? This is news to me.

And this is HUGE for the Knicks hopeful who are desperate to see their team actually make some noise related to winning, not off-court drama. This is also big considering they used their one-time amnesty clause on Billups last off-season.

Rnbizzle
07-01-2012, 06:42 PM
They need to let Amar'e go and build a good team around Melo, seriously look at the team of the past two years, they've had terrible teams when you look at their depth.

Celtic_Pride
07-01-2012, 06:45 PM
If their owner and GM were smart, Knicks would have had a core of CP3, Melo and Dwight/Tyson!

9erempiree
07-01-2012, 06:45 PM
What happened to Linsanity that they want Paul?

NuggetsFan
07-01-2012, 06:48 PM
Only way this article isn't absurd is if they can't stay healthy. Knicks have waited a long time to compete. If they terminate one of Melo and Amare just because they think they have a shot at Paul it'll be beyond ridiculous. They've played the what if game already and they got their core.

East is starting to open up. If they stay healthy next year they'll be fine. Does come in handy if one of the two can't stay healthy and they think they have a legitimate shot at Paul. They've built a decent team. Need to worry about surrounding them with solid depth and stop looking for the home run.

Duffers-11
07-01-2012, 06:50 PM
Amar'e Stoudemire - most overrated pf in the league?

Clippersfan86
07-01-2012, 06:52 PM
Let's go beyond what the Knicks can do to make room. The question than becomes... why the hell would he want to play for the Knicks basketball wise? Clippers roster suits him much more and has a better chance to contend right now. There is literally zero reason to choose to play in NY than LA especially considering he just bought an 8 million dollar home this year and the roster is being built around him.

NOHCP3
07-01-2012, 06:56 PM
"A defensive waste" :yaohappy: damn that's harsh... Don't see why it would be both there. Just 1 and you'd have room for CP but this just feels like grasping at straws

SpecialQue
07-01-2012, 06:57 PM
Let's go beyond what the Knicks can do to make room. The question than becomes... why the hell would he want to play for the Knicks basketball wise? Clippers roster suits him much more and has a better chance to contend right now. There is literally zero reason to choose to play in NY than LA especially considering he just bought an 8 million dollar home this year and the roster is being built around him.

He wants to play in NY. It doesn't matter what makes more sense...that's where he's always wanted to go. If logic factored into player decisions, Dwight would have agreed to be traded to the Bulls and win an easy ring with Rose.

Raz
07-01-2012, 07:02 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1243207-nba-rumors-executives-reportedly-believe-chris-paul-wants-to-play-for-knicks




I believe this article, or a piece of it, was posted earlier in regards to Chris Paul supposed interest in joining the New York Knicks next summer. However, this aspect of the article was no addressed -- can anyone verify this? That the Knicks had included an early termination clause in both Amare and Carmelo's contract? This is news to me.

And this is HUGE for the Knicks hopeful who are desperate to see their team actually make some noise related to winning, not off-court drama. This is also big considering they used their one-time amnesty clause on Billups last off-season.


Thanks for posting this information, but you should NEVER quote the Bleacher Report - it's as bad as referencing Wikipedia in an essay for University.

You should post the original article.

BlackVVaves
07-01-2012, 07:02 PM
He wants to play in NY. It doesn't matter what makes more sense...that's where he's always wanted to go. If logic factored into player decisions, Dwight would have agreed to be traded to the Bulls and win an easy ring with Rose.

Hmm, good point. I don't see him leaving LAC, but I also wouldn't be surprised if he did. Logic doesn't run very high in the NBA these days.

Al Thornton
07-01-2012, 07:05 PM
He wants to play in NY. It doesn't matter what makes more sense...that's where he's always wanted to go. If logic factored into player decisions, Dwight would have agreed to be traded to the Bulls and win an easy ring with Rose.

he wanted to play in ny or la. he got what he wanted.

Zackmorris
07-01-2012, 07:07 PM
Frank Isola eh?

BlackVVaves
07-01-2012, 07:08 PM
Thanks for posting this information, but you should NEVER quote the Bleacher Report - it's as bad as referencing Wikipedia in an essay for University.

You should post the original article.

I don't care about the "story" Bleacher Report is trying to break, I know their not reputable. I just noticed this aspect of the article, which I was looking for some kind of confirmation on and open discussion.

Not like I'm saying Chris Paul is going to NY because BR said so.

DStebb716
07-01-2012, 07:09 PM
Lmao at anybody mentioning terminating Melo. You don't terminate the contract of one of the best players in the game.

BlackVVaves
07-01-2012, 07:10 PM
So, still haven't been answered. Is this legit? Can the Knicks truly terminate any or both of their contracts purely based on performance and team results this year?

SpecialQue
07-01-2012, 07:12 PM
he wanted to play in ny or la. he got what he wanted.

It was always NY first. The only reason he agreed to add LA was because the Knicks had absolutely NOTHING to offer the Hornets in a trade. Both LA franchises were always second and third options.

SpecialQue
07-01-2012, 07:14 PM
Thanks for posting this information, but you should NEVER quote the Bleacher Report - it's as bad as referencing Wikipedia in an essay for University.

You should post the original article.

For what it's worth, there have been studies done on the accuracy of Wikipedia...turns out it's as accurate or more so than print encyclopedias. Also, when I was working on my MA, some of the professors were fine with Wiki sources because of how rare the primary sources were.

ZenMaster
07-01-2012, 07:26 PM
Hmm, good point. I don't see him leaving LAC, but I also wouldn't be surprised if he did. Logic doesn't run very high in the NBA these days.

Well that's because it's not a computer game but real life. Basketball for pro players is a job, when you're a real live person there's logic on a personal level and it's not all about a name that fits in nicely with other names on a roster.
There are tons of reasons a person would choose to work a place that's not logic for a regular fan, consider these scenarios as a real live person and not just a basketball player looking for the best opportunity to win a championship.

1) You're drafted or traded to a team that's located far away from your family and friends.

2) You live far away from your family and your mom or dad gets sick.

3) Lots of players are married or with girlfriends, what if your wife's mom or dad got sick and they live far away from where your team is.

4) What if your wife or your kids had pollinosis and was sick and tired of living the place you where traded to because there was a high level of pollen.

5) What if you got kids with your ex in one state and you got traded accross the country. Surely the responsibility of being with your kids and being a good dad is more important than trying to win a championship no?

6) What if you hate the traffic in LA and it makes you sick and tired that you can spend 3 hours getting from Santa Monica to Sunset Boulevard on valentines day?(I tried that myself)

There are thousands of reasons a player would or wouldn't want to live in a place that has nothing to do with basketball but are still logical.

MeLO MvP 15
07-01-2012, 07:47 PM
Bleacher report.....

I'm pretty sure that dumbass just read through their contracts and saw the "early termination options" in Amar'e and Melo's contract... too bad the guy is an idiot because those are PLAYER options, not TEAM options.

BlackVVaves
07-01-2012, 07:52 PM
Bleacher report.....

I'm pretty sure that dumbass just read through their contracts and saw the "early termination options" in Amar'e and Melo's contract... too bad the guy is an idiot because those are PLAYER options, not TEAM options.

So then it's not true then? That's all I've really wanted to know.

MeLO MvP 15
07-01-2012, 07:55 PM
So then it's not true then? That's all I've really wanted to know.
It's not true.

What it is is player options in both of their contracts so if they want to leave or sign new contracts in 2 years, they can.

bagelred
07-01-2012, 08:15 PM
So, still haven't been answered. Is this legit? Can the Knicks truly terminate any or both of their contracts purely based on performance and team results this year?

no

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Horde of Temujin
07-01-2012, 08:28 PM
If their owner and GM were smart, Knicks would have had a core of CP3, Melo and Dwight/Tyson!

Thats a mighty big if.