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1987_Lakers
07-02-2012, 05:08 PM
wtf:biggums:

bagelred
07-02-2012, 05:09 PM
David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt

Breaking: Nets "very close" to acquiring Joe Johnson from Hawks for Farmar, Petro, Morrow, Williams, Stevenson and protected pick (Houston).


Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

Nets would send Jordan Williams, Petro, Farmar, Morrow and a sign-and-trade of Stevenson for Joe Johnson, sources tell Y!

WOW. This is a major salary dump. They took all the Nets garbage just to get rid of JJ. This is a little shocking.

All Net
07-02-2012, 05:10 PM
Johnson, who is still owed $89.3 million over the next three years, was dealt for Anthony Morrow; Jordan Farmar, who will be bought out at Atlanta's expense; Jordan Williams, Johan Petro, a signed-and-traded DeShawn Stevenson and the Rockets 2013 lottery protected first round pick.

-NetsDaily twitter

IGotACoolStory
07-02-2012, 05:10 PM
Johnson for trash and a protected first round pick :lol

That's how bad that contract is.

BallsOut
07-02-2012, 05:11 PM
in b4 niko

Nets:
PG: Deron Williams | Jason Kidd
SG: Joe Johnson | Marshon Brooks
SF: Gerald Wallace | Gerald Green
PF: ____________ | ___________
C: Dwight Howard | ___________

PickernRoller
07-02-2012, 05:12 PM
Good news for Net fans. Hopefully Joe can up his game from his "potential"....

R.I.P.
07-02-2012, 05:12 PM
That means Deron stays and they

RoundMoundOfReb
07-02-2012, 05:12 PM
Johnson, who is still owed $89.3 million over the next three years, was dealt for Anthony Morrow; Jordan Farmar, who will be bought out at Atlanta's expense; Jordan Williams, Johan Petro, a signed-and-traded DeShawn Stevenson and the Rockets 2013 lottery protected first round pick.

-NetsDaily twitter
Wow. Thanks for posting this. What do the nets look like next year?

Dwill
Johnson
Gerald wallce
?
Lopez

Not bad.

Zodiac
07-02-2012, 05:12 PM
<Insert Daniel Bryan Yes! Gif Here>

Celtic_Pride
07-02-2012, 05:13 PM
Deron is getting the max

I dont think the Nets have enough cap space for Dwight during next summer after signing Deron, Wallace, Lopez and Johnson. What's the point of trading for Joe?

DuMa
07-02-2012, 05:13 PM
wow. i cannot believe Hawks actually have a team wanting that contract.

they must be dancing like this right now in their front offices.
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/borat_dance.gif

All Net
07-02-2012, 05:13 PM
[QUOTE=R.I.P.]That means Deron stays and they

Raz
07-02-2012, 05:13 PM
Wow. Thanks for posting this. What do the nets look like next year?

Dwill
Johnson
Gerald wallce
?
Lopez

Not bad.

They better try get Hump back.

I really don't like this team. They might not even make the playoffs

Locked_Up_Tonight
07-02-2012, 05:14 PM
I guess that takes them out of the running for Dwight until Dwight becomes a free agent. They don't have anything left to offer Orlando.

9erempiree
07-02-2012, 05:14 PM
Worst contract in history is that of Joe Johnson.

bagelred
07-02-2012, 05:14 PM
Wait, what?


Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard

Sources confirm Hawks and Nets have agreed to terms on deal to send Joe Johnson to Nets. Deal contingent on Deron Williams staying w/Nets

What the f-ck does that mean?:confusedshrug:

All Net
07-02-2012, 05:14 PM
Zach Lowe ‏@ZachLowe_SI
If Nets re-sign D-Will to max and go through with Johnson trade, they'll have approx $50.5M committed to just 3 players for '13-14.

:eek:

talkingconch
07-02-2012, 05:14 PM
Dwight to the Lakers?

GoRapz
07-02-2012, 05:14 PM
Wow...this is the best deal Atlanta can find??? :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Hotlantadude81
07-02-2012, 05:15 PM
Also means Dwight Howard won't be headed there.

If they find away to get him they will have a big three for a few years.

LA.MJ&KB#1
07-02-2012, 05:16 PM
Are they going to be able to land Dwight Howard if they do this Joe Johnson thing?

NuggetsFan
07-02-2012, 05:16 PM
Wait, what?


What the f-ck does that mean?:confusedshrug:

NJ can back out if D-Will doesn't stay? Great move if NJ can keep D-Will and land Howard still. If it's even possible at this point :confusedshrug:

1987_Lakers
07-02-2012, 05:16 PM
Pretty much means D-Will is staying with the Nets and Dwight will be traded to the Lakers.:D

KyrieTheFuture
07-02-2012, 05:16 PM
That is an excellent trade for the Nets. Billy King did something right???

fatboy11
07-02-2012, 05:16 PM
Are they going to be able to land Dwight Howard if they do this Joe Johnson thing?

Probably not....unless Orlando wants Joe Johnson.

GoRapz
07-02-2012, 05:16 PM
Wait, what?


What the f-ck does that mean?:confusedshrug:

It means the deal will only go through if DWill re-signs

Zodiac
07-02-2012, 05:17 PM
Stern better not block this damn deal for basketball reasons.

Lakers_Kobe_Fan
07-02-2012, 05:17 PM
[QUOTE=R.I.P.]That means Deron stays and they

Hotlantadude81
07-02-2012, 05:17 PM
Wow...this is the best deal Atlanta can find??? :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

I saw rumors that they wanted Brooks in the trade. I had got used to that possibility so now the deal without him doesn't look as good.

J-Futuristic
07-02-2012, 05:17 PM
I expect Joe Johnson to have an efficient year with the Nets now that he has a real PG, and he doesn't have the pressure of being the #1 guy on him. Still don't know what the hell the Hawks were thinking offering him that big of a contract.

R.I.P.
07-02-2012, 05:17 PM
Wow...this is the best deal Atlanta can find??? :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

it

Heavincent
07-02-2012, 05:17 PM
Not bad. He's way overpaid though. But if Deron resigns we'll at least be somewhat decent.

All Net
07-02-2012, 05:17 PM
Are they going to be able to land Dwight Howard if they do this Joe Johnson thing?

Salary wise will be impossible. They don't have the assets or contracts.

bagelred
07-02-2012, 05:18 PM
Wow...this is the best deal Atlanta can find??? :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

I honestly think Hawks and Knicks should have considered an Amare for JJ swap. Or be the nucleus of a deal.

Just a thought.........

Faptastrophe
07-02-2012, 05:18 PM
Are they going to be able to land Dwight Howard if they do this Joe Johnson thing?
Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard
If Hawks-Nets deal goes through, Nets are no longer in race for Dwight Howard. Cap room for D12 will be gone.

Lakers_Kobe_Fan
07-02-2012, 05:19 PM
Jerry Buss to Howard: Come to papa baby:roll:

bagelred
07-02-2012, 05:19 PM
It means the deal will only go through if DWill re-signs

And if he doesn't, Nets are saying no to this deal?

Punpun
07-02-2012, 05:19 PM
Holy ****. They Can Stilla Cquire Dwight Howard.

talkingconch
07-02-2012, 05:19 PM
Holy ****. They Can Stilla Cquire Dwight Howard.

I don't think so


David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt
Here's the link to earlier post indicating Orlando had no interest in current Nets offer for DH12: http://on.nba.com/M1j6wr. JJ deal seals that.


David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt
Source indicated earlier that the Nets would proceed with JJ deal whether or not they get commitment from Deron Williams to stay w/Brooklyn.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/bozman007/Message%20Board%20Graphics/ShockedMuppet.gif

All Net
07-02-2012, 05:19 PM
Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard
If Hawks-Nets deal goes through, Nets are no longer in race for Dwight Howard. Cap room for D12 will be gone.

Tired of waiting I suppose.

Hittin_Shots
07-02-2012, 05:19 PM
Stern better not block this damn deal for basketball reasons.

Does the league own these teams? I didn't know there were still ppl like you around..

RoundMoundOfReb
07-02-2012, 05:19 PM
Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard
If Hawks-Nets deal goes through, Nets are no longer in race for Dwight Howard. Cap room for D12 will be gone.
What if they send Lopez back in a trade?

IGotACoolStory
07-02-2012, 05:19 PM
Wow, invest in Joe Johnson instead of putting your hat for D12? They must know he was never coming then.

Even so, Joe Johnson and that contract is not a good consolation prize. Keep the cap, imo.

SpecialQue
07-02-2012, 05:19 PM
inb4 Stern

http://unit-pic.twittweb.com/img/original/a4/a42400b2ab1847e64c53f36fac1ed20d.jpeg

simcjt
07-02-2012, 05:20 PM
Johnson for trash and a protected first round pick :lol

That's how bad that contract is.
:oldlol: Sums it up

KG215
07-02-2012, 05:20 PM
Broussard says it's been confirmed. Still won't buy it 100% until one of the Yahoo guys Tweets it.


Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard
Sources confirm Hawks and Nets have agreed to terms on deal to send Joe Johnson to Nets. Deal contingent on Deron Williams staying w/Nets


Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard
If Hawks-Nets deal goes through, Nets are no longer in race for Dwight Howard. Cap room for D12 will be gone.


Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard
Nets will send expiring contracts and 1R pick to ATL. Nets get to keep Marshon Brooks, Gerald Green and their own 1R pick

Punpun
07-02-2012, 05:21 PM
I don't think so
]

You don't think so but it could still work as they still have Brook etc.

nevetslc88
07-02-2012, 05:21 PM
Jerry Buss to Howard: Come to papa baby:roll:

and Jack Nicholson reaction.

http://pichars.org/store/8339_original_YesJackNicholson.gif

Punpun
07-02-2012, 05:21 PM
Broussard says it's been confirmed. Still won't buy it 100% until one of the Yahoo guys Tweets it.

Woj tweeted it. Dude, it's on the first post.

Raz
07-02-2012, 05:21 PM
Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard

Sources confirm Hawks and Nets have agreed to terms on deal to send Joe Johnson to Nets. Deal contingent on Deron Williams staying w/Nets


Wait, what?
What the f-ck does that mean?:confusedshrug:

http://i45.tinypic.com/yi43.png

Punpun
07-02-2012, 05:22 PM
>People believing some RUssian Billionaire give a shit about spending 10 or 20 more million in luxury tax.

Are you guys for real ?

J-Futuristic
07-02-2012, 05:23 PM
Atlanta is gonna steal Dwight. J-Smoove do work baby start recruiting!

talkingconch
07-02-2012, 05:23 PM
Jerry Buss to Howard: Come to papa baby:roll:

http://instntrply.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/mitch.gif

fatboy11
07-02-2012, 05:24 PM
You guys are waaaay too critical of Joe Johnson because of his contract. I mean, yeah, it's a monster contract. But he's still an All-Star every year and now he's playing with a top PG and a decent center (assuming Lopez is retained). They also have MarShon Brooks and Gerald Wallace.

talkingconch
07-02-2012, 05:24 PM
Atlanta is gonna steal Dwight. J-Smoove do work baby start recruiting!
What will they offer?

All Net
07-02-2012, 05:24 PM
>People believing some RUssian Billionaire give a shit about spending 10 or 20 more million in luxury tax.

Are you guys for real ?

They won't.

bleedinpurpleTwo
07-02-2012, 05:25 PM
NOW, Brooklyn merely needs to send Lopez (S&T), Brooks, and maybe another piece to Orlando for Howard. Maybe S&T Kris Humphries, too? And Orlando dumps Hedo along the way?

R.I.P.
07-02-2012, 05:26 PM
>People believing some RUssian Billionaire give a shit about spending 10 or 20 more million in luxury tax.

Are you guys for real ?

They

All Net
07-02-2012, 05:26 PM
2012/13 - $19,752,645
2013/14 - $21,466,718
2014/15 - $23,180,790
2015/16 - $24,894,863

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Derka
07-02-2012, 05:27 PM
Looks like Dwight's taking the MLE to become a Net! :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Nicely done, Danny Ferry!

Punpun
07-02-2012, 05:28 PM
[QUOTE=R.I.P.]They

simcjt
07-02-2012, 05:28 PM
Does the league own these teams? I didn't know there were still ppl like you around..
:biggums: As NBA commish he can block trades in general. Has nothing to do with owning a team

Ex: Not in the best interest of the league or Basketball reasons. League has to approve the trade

bagelred
07-02-2012, 05:28 PM
Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard

Source: Nets are meeting with Deron Williams right now. Telling him about trade for Joe Johnson right now.

:coleman:

KG215
07-02-2012, 05:28 PM
Woj tweeted it. Dude, it's on the first post.

Dude! I read it but tanks! That Tweet said the two teams "were close". The Broussard Tweet I posted said the deal was in place and agreed upon by both sides. But thanks for having my back and looking out for me.

Celtic_Pride
07-02-2012, 05:29 PM
Deron, Johnson and Dwight is an awesome trio and can complement each other pretty well. But I don't think it is possible financially!


DUDE, The CHelsea owner sinked 1 BILLION EURO on his team. Let that sink in. This is chump change for Prokhorov.

You clearly do not understand salary cap rules!

Brokenbeat
07-02-2012, 05:29 PM
Zach Lowe ‏@ZachLowe_SI
If Nets re-sign D-Will to max and go through with Johnson trade, they'll have approx $50.5M committed to just 3 players for '13-14.

:eek:

Billy King, meet salary cap:
http://i.imgur.com/LxKLE.gif

PickernRoller
07-02-2012, 05:29 PM
Wow, invest in Joe Johnson instead of putting your hat for D12? They must know he was never coming then.

Even so, Joe Johnson and that contract is not a good consolation prize. Keep the cap, imo.

The Nets never had anything worth Dwight Howard. Look at the trash they'll send to Hawks for Johnson. Besides Deron, everyone else is trash and their record in the East shows so. The only possibility of the Nets landing Dwight would have been on a 3-team deal and still, who wants the Nets pieces and or is willing to give up good pieces to appease the Magic getting Net pieces in return - nobody.

If the Magic decide to trade Dwight...Lakers are on top of that list and with leverage. The question with all the drama is, is Dwight worth it after all his comments?

Zodiac
07-02-2012, 05:29 PM
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/279/799/76b.gif

bagelred
07-02-2012, 05:30 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

League source tells Y! that Joe Johnson deal now likely "happens with or without Deron." Nets officials are meeting with Williams right now.

:coleman: :coleman:

DuMa
07-02-2012, 05:30 PM
Prokorov must be desperate to show Deron how he can spend his $. go out and get the most ridiculous contract in sports as an example

Clutch
07-02-2012, 05:30 PM
Dwight on suicide watch :roll:

Punpun
07-02-2012, 05:31 PM
Dude! I read it but tanks! That Tweet said the two teams "were close". The Broussard Tweet I posted said the deal was in place and agreed upon by both sides. But thanks for having my back and looking out for me.

I KNOW DUDE. It's the start of the Russian domination over the NBA with huge paychecks everywhere without giving a damn bout rentability. It's a greta day. Finally the NBA will become like the EPL or LA LIGA.

And Woj has learnt from the CP3 fiasco. It's still 90% sure.

Faptastrophe
07-02-2012, 05:31 PM
Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard
Nets, of course, would've preferred to get Dwight, but Magic refused to engage in trade talks. Source: 'They didn't want to dance with us.'

Zodiac
07-02-2012, 05:31 PM
From Woj-

League source tells Y! that Joe Johnson deal now likely "happens with or without Deron." Nets officials are meeting with Williams right now.

bagelred
07-02-2012, 05:32 PM
Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard

Nets, of course, would've preferred to get Dwight, but Magic refused to engage in trade talks. Source: 'They didn't want to dance with us.'

:coleman: :coleman: :coleman:

GoRapz
07-02-2012, 05:32 PM
I only like this trade because it ****s over Dwight. Screw that cry baby bastard and ship his ass to Charlotte

bagelred
07-02-2012, 05:32 PM
Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard

Source on Nets moving on from possibility of getting Dwight: "Dwight blew it in March'' when he waived opt-out clause.

:coleman: :coleman: :coleman: :coleman:

BallsOut
07-02-2012, 05:33 PM
Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard
Nets, of course, would've preferred to get Dwight, but Magic refused to engage in trade talks. Source: 'They didn't want to dance with us.'

I guess the Nets aren't good dancers.

Levity
07-02-2012, 05:33 PM
Atlanta is gonna steal Dwight. J-Smoove do work baby start recruiting!

if josh smith is recruiting dhow to come to atl, then all they could offer is al horford.
ye, the magic are just dying for horford + atl trash.

bleedinpurpleTwo
07-02-2012, 05:34 PM
Cant Brooklyn still trade for Howard?
S&T Lopez together with Brooks? Also S&T Kris Humphries if the parties are agreeable?

bagelred
07-02-2012, 05:34 PM
Cant Brooklyn still trade for Howard?
S&T Lopez together with Brooks? Also S&T Kris Humphries if the parties are agreeable?

They'll have to realistically wait until December 15th for any trade.

PickernRoller
07-02-2012, 05:34 PM
:coleman: :coleman: :coleman:

I can see that. The Nets got nothing worth Dwight. The Magic will do what's best for them, not what's best for Dwight. If they turned down the Bynum and trash for Dwight before somehow they'll accept garbage for Dwight now? Hell no...

bagelred
07-02-2012, 05:35 PM
Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS

A person involved in talks debunks notion that Joe Johnson trade is tied to Deron Williams/Brooklyn. "No contingencies," the person says.

:coleman: :coleman: :coleman: :coleman: :coleman:

TMT
07-02-2012, 05:35 PM
Holy crap. Did not think this would actually get done, but I think it's good for the Nets and Joe Johnson's career. Wonder what the Hawks are looking to do now.

BallsOut
07-02-2012, 05:35 PM
Cant Brooklyn still trade for Howard?
S&T Lopez together with Brooks? Also S&T Kris Humphries if the parties are agreeable?

I'm sure this was presented, but the Nets aren't good dancers so the Magic didn't want to dance.

christian1923
07-02-2012, 05:35 PM
Dwight to the knicks on the sneak..

bagelred
07-02-2012, 05:36 PM
Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS

The Nets wouldn't have been so aggressive in pursuing Johnson, of course, without blessing from Williams. Nets remain confident he'll stay.

:coleman: :coleman: :coleman: :coleman: :coleman: :coleman:

Clutch
07-02-2012, 05:36 PM
I only like this trade because it ****s over Dwight. Screw that cry baby bastard and ship his ass to Charlotte
:applause: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

talkingconch
07-02-2012, 05:36 PM
LMAO so what if Deron leaves? Source already says the move was done whether or not he stays? That team is playoff team barely, if Lopez stays healthy

Levity
07-02-2012, 05:37 PM
realistically, where do you see this move putting the nets next year, playoff wise?

bottom 4 seed?

Nash
07-02-2012, 05:37 PM
Nets just fecked up. With no Howard on the horizon Deron will now go to Dallas to play with Nowitzki and wait for Howard there.

BallsOut
07-02-2012, 05:38 PM
Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS

The Nets wouldn't have been so aggressive in pursuing Johnson, of course, without blessing from Williams. Nets remain confident he'll stay.


Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard

Source: Nets are meeting with Deron Williams right now. Telling him about trade for Joe Johnson right now.

:biggums: :biggums:

Shouldn't they have told Deron before hand?

bagelred
07-02-2012, 05:38 PM
@daldridgetnt: Source indicated Nets would proceed w/JJ deal whether or not they get commitment from D-Will (NETS' NEW POSTURE VIA DA)

:coleman: :coleman: :coleman: :coleman: :coleman: :coleman: :coleman:

1987_Lakers
07-02-2012, 05:38 PM
Can't really blame Atlanta. They were NEVER going to get past the 2nd round with that core of players so they decided to dump Joe Johnson and his huge salary. They still got some solid core of players in Horford/Smith/Teague so let's see if they can improve.

bleedinpurpleTwo
07-02-2012, 05:39 PM
They'll have to realistically wait until December 15th for any trade.
why? what am I missing?
TIA

hawksdogsbraves
07-02-2012, 05:39 PM
Bahahaha thanks Nets, you morons

I never ever thought a team would be dumb enough to take this dumb chucker's contract off of us. Then again, I didn't think you could have a front office as dumb as the Nets' is.

So now they don't have money for Dwight, which means Deron will probably want out of town as opposed to wasting his career with a 17ppg chucker running mate making more money than anyone in the league.

R.I.P.
07-02-2012, 05:39 PM
We

PJR
07-02-2012, 05:39 PM
Deron will resign with the Nets. Locked.

Shade8780
07-02-2012, 05:39 PM
Let's celebrate!!! Dwight is fcuked!!!

:djparty :hammertime: :dancin :party: :D :banana: :rockon: :dancin :hammertime: :party:

Punpun
07-02-2012, 05:40 PM
>People still thinking even 30 million over the cap or 60 million in luxury tax is enough to make Prokorov give a shit

It's gas money anyways.

Raz
07-02-2012, 05:41 PM
Man, I hope this means Dwight may get traded to a team he has no interest in being on. I hope they trade him to a horrible team like the Clippers

Crown&Coke
07-02-2012, 05:41 PM
:banana:

Dwight gets shafted :lol

"My heart is in Orlando" when he opts in

"they blackmailed me!" when they still suck after a few months

Now you wanna hit the free agent market next year? You might end up in Cleveland, which looking at their roster isn't going to be as bad as orlando next year. Wonder if Cuban rolls the dice again and signs one year deals AGAIN???

Dwight >>>>>> Bynum, but his last two years of clammoring for a trade and then opting in is starting to piss me off

BallsOut
07-02-2012, 05:42 PM
Man, I hope this means Dwight may get traded to a team he has no interest in being on. I hope they trade him to a horrible team like the Clippers

:oldlol:

R.I.P.
07-02-2012, 05:42 PM
>People still thinking even 30 million over the cap or 60 million in luxury tax is enough to make Prokorov give a shit

It's gas money anyways.

Do you even know how the cap works. They can

GoRapz
07-02-2012, 05:42 PM
Bahahaha thanks Nets, you morons

I never ever thought a team would be dumb enough to take this dumb chucker's contract off of us. Then again, I didn't think you could have a front office as dumb as the Nets' is.

So now they don't have money for Dwight, which means Deron will probably want out of town as opposed to wasting his career with a 17ppg chucker running mate making more money than anyone in the league.

I think deep down you mad brah...you just gave up an all-star for scraps. Regardless of how his contract looked I have a real hard time believing you guys couldn't get a better deal. I mean dayum, you couldn't even get Brooks in return?? :lol

bleedinpurpleTwo
07-02-2012, 05:42 PM
methinks you guys are over reacting on the implications for Dwight.

TMT
07-02-2012, 05:43 PM
Will the Nets turn around and try to entice Orlando with a Johnson + Lopez + Brooks package for Dwight? :confusedshrug:

Crown&Coke
07-02-2012, 05:43 PM
>People still thinking even 30 million over the cap or 60 million in luxury tax is enough to make Prokorov give a shit

It's gas money anyways.

sure he might be willing to pay it

but he still has to find a way to get Dwight on his team. He can't sign him outright if this JJ deal goes down. And they will have no capspace to sign him next year when he is a free agent.

Unless Orlando gives Dwight what he wants in exchange for a center who don't rebound in Lopez. And if that was the case, he would have already been in Brooklyn

Bigsmoke
07-02-2012, 05:43 PM
umm..

k0kakw0rld
07-02-2012, 05:43 PM
Dwight on suicide watch :roll:
:rockon:

bagelred
07-02-2012, 05:44 PM
why? what am I missing?
TIA

I don't think anyone can be traded until December 15th, unless I suppose a Sign and Trade with Brook Lopez at the core. But Orlando doesn't want Brook Lopez. Hence, no trade.

R.I.P.
07-02-2012, 05:45 PM
methinks you guys are over reacting on the implications for Dwight.

He won

Punpun
07-02-2012, 05:45 PM
Unless Orlando gives Dwight what he wants in exchange for a center who don't rebound in Lopez. And if that was the case, he would have already been in Brooklyn

They should be now. No reason not to with Dwight and the last FO having ****ed up every other possible trades.

GOBB
07-02-2012, 05:45 PM
Well this trade will change the way posters argue. No more untradeable contracts because such and such makes too much.

NOHCP3
07-02-2012, 05:45 PM
Don't think it's the end for Dwight but its weird. Could JJ be the perfect 3rd wheel? Or do they see him as option 2 and being enough to get D will back?

eliteballer
07-02-2012, 05:46 PM
Welcome to LA Dwight.... :pimp: :pimp: :pimp:

Crown&Coke
07-02-2012, 05:46 PM
I don't think anyone can be traded until December 15th, unless I suppose a Sign and Trade with Brook Lopez at the core. But Orlando doesn't want Brook Lopez. Hence, no trade.

Im lost?

I think guys who just signed free agnet deals this year can't be dealt until Dec 15 (or some date like that)

but other guys can still be dealt

Locked_Up_Tonight
07-02-2012, 05:47 PM
I can see it now:

Dwight Howard screaming: "Billy King blackmailed me! Now I can't be a Net unless I don't take the max or anything close to the Max!"

bagelred
07-02-2012, 05:47 PM
Im lost?

I think guys who just signed free agnet deals this year can't be dealt until Dec 15 (or some date like that)

but other guys can still be dealt

So who do you want traded? Gerald Wallace just signed, so he has to wait until Dec 15th. Who do you want the Nets to trade for Howard? Brooks and Lopez? Magic don't want that.

bleedinpurpleTwo
07-02-2012, 05:48 PM
I don't think anyone can be traded until December 15th, unless I suppose a Sign and Trade with Brook Lopez at the core. But Orlando doesn't want Brook Lopez. Hence, no trade.
Yup. I'm not saying that Orlando will take what NJ is offering, but they COULD S&T Lopez, Humphries, include Brooks and maybe draft picks?

bagelred
07-02-2012, 05:49 PM
Yup. I'm not saying that Orlando will take what NJ is offering, but they COULD S&T Lopez, Humphries, include Brooks and maybe draft picks?

You CAN'T package Lopez with other contracts in a sign and trade. I don't think that's allowed, unless new CBA was changed. In old CBA, can't package like that.

Punpun
07-02-2012, 05:49 PM
Orlando doesn't have much of a say. Plus Prokhorov could always make the deal even more appealing by throwing money in the mix of hte S&T.

SpecialQue
07-02-2012, 05:49 PM
Dwight:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m58807dnM31qdlh1io1_400.gif

Clutch
07-02-2012, 05:51 PM
Dwight:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m58807dnM31qdlh1io1_400.gif
:roll: :roll: :roll:

LA_Showtime
07-02-2012, 05:51 PM
Maybe we were wrong and the Nets weren't Howard's team of choice. I don't see why else they'd pull the trigger this early, let alone acquire a guy like Joe Johnson. Billy King. :bowdown:

simcjt
07-02-2012, 05:51 PM
Im lost?

I think guys who just signed free agnet deals this year can't be dealt until Dec 15 (or some date like that)

but other guys can still be dealt
I know you can't sign a free agent to a new team and deal them without some deadline passing. If resigned to their previous team they can be dealt in a s&t.

BallsOut
07-02-2012, 05:52 PM
Orlando doesn't have much of a say. Plus Prokhorov could always make the deal even more appealing by throwing money in the mix of hte S&T.

Lopez, Brooks, future 1st round pick and 10 mill cash to Orlando for Dwight Howard.

D12"Magic"
07-02-2012, 05:53 PM
ughhhh, oh well were building a good team in the east.

Deron/Taylor
JJ/Brooks
Wallace/Green
???
Lopez

is a good core

Punpun
07-02-2012, 05:53 PM
Seriously, I don't think you guys understand how Russians billionaires approach sport. Money isn't a problem when you are as rich as them. And Hard Cap as yet to be put in place.

simcjt
07-02-2012, 05:54 PM
Maybe we were wrong and the Nets weren't Howard's team of choice. I don't see why else they'd pull the trigger this early, let alone acquire a guy like Joe Johnson. Billy King. :bowdown:
This early?:biggums:

They waited a year even dealing with rumors that they had met with D12 illegally last summer for him to opt-in and give the Magic another shot. How much longer are they suppose to wait entering a new arena trying to be better than the bobcats

1987_Lakers
07-02-2012, 05:55 PM
I just don't see Orlando passing up on Bynum. Orlando was interested in Lopez earlier last season because there were question marks about Bynum, but the way Bynum performed last season without any injury problems should seal the deal on a Bynum-Dwight trade.

Crown&Coke
07-02-2012, 05:55 PM
Lopez, Brooks, future 1st round pick and 10 mill cash to Orlando for Dwight Howard.

Max money a team can send in a trade is 3mil per year

(i.e. Lakers sent 500K to Dallas for Johnson-Odom's rights, they can only send 2.5Mil the balance of the year)

BlackVVaves
07-02-2012, 05:55 PM
Hey Dwight...

So looooooong gay boiiiii.

keep-itreal
07-02-2012, 05:55 PM
wow. i cannot believe Hawks actually have a team wanting that contract.

they must be dancing like this right now in their front offices.
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/borat_dance.gif

:roll: :roll:

Crown&Coke
07-02-2012, 05:57 PM
I think the most intirguing part for Orlando was dumping Turk's contract on Brooklyn, and Nets wanted to keep a little loot for themselves to go after someone they wanted. that could have been the holdup?

Who is taking turk now?

Meticode
07-02-2012, 05:57 PM
Holy crap, I thought the Hawks would never be able to dump his contract. Things are getting interesting in Brooklyn.

PleezeBehave
07-02-2012, 05:57 PM
Lopez, Brooks, future 1st round pick and 10 mill cash to Orlando for Dwight Howard.

Orlando hasn't shown any interest in any trade with the Nets. They are constantly hitting the snooze button. Otis is not there anymore.

Michael_Wilbon
07-02-2012, 05:58 PM
I'm really glad Dwight won't be going to Brooklyn. I hope he doesn't go to the Knicks either, but I don't see how that's possible. What a stinkin' city that is.

With that said I think he would be a great addition to Derrick Rose and the Chicago Bulls.

Crown&Coke
07-02-2012, 05:58 PM
ughhhh, oh well were building a good team in the east.

Deron/Taylor
JJ/Brooks
Wallace/Green
???
Lopez

is a good core

they can check Miami with that line up too. They got some big, strong wings to defend Lebron, which, lets face it, was Miami's only unguardable player. Everyone else can be minimized to a certain extent

Punpun
07-02-2012, 05:59 PM
Orlando hasn't shown any interest in any trade with the Nets. They are constantly hitting the snooze button. Otis is not there anymore.

Please, Otis was the one saying no to the Nets. Things are different now.

simcjt
07-02-2012, 06:00 PM
Lopez, Brooks, future 1st round pick and 10 mill cash to Orlando for Dwight Howard.
Not sure if the cash aspect works out but the rest of that deal makes sense. If another team is needed I guess they could try and rush a package together where Lopez goes to Houston since they are content at going after every big in the market.


Magic get = Brooks + drafted talent from Houston
Nets get = Dwight + Hedo's contract + ???
Rockets get = Lopez

No I did not check if this works but i'm sure its not that far off and talent wise should work for all teams if the Magic want to rebuild the Cavs, Thunder route

Edit: Reasons Magic don't want to is dealing with an eastern opponent. Rockets should have no issues seeing how much they were willing to facilitate the lakers with the cp3 deal

PleezeBehave
07-02-2012, 06:01 PM
Please, Otis was the one saying no to the Nets. Things are different now.

Wrong. Otis wanted the Lopez trade, wanted to take it, went to the owners who kicked him in the nuts and removed his decision authority so that every move after that had to be approved by ownership or CEO Alex Martins. They then came to a mutual agreement to part ways.

R.I.P.
07-02-2012, 06:02 PM
they can check Miami with that line up too. They got some big, strong wings to defend Lebron, which, lets face it, was Miami's only unguardable player. Everyone else can be minimized to a certain extent

Really? Wallace is staying in front of LeBron? Better defenders than Wallace have failed. You need a mobile rim protector against the Heat and the Nets have Brook Lopez. :roll:

Punpun
07-02-2012, 06:02 PM
You are pulling that out of your ass though. Otis up to the very end wanted to keep Dwight and was confident he'd stay.

Celtic_Pride
07-02-2012, 06:03 PM
Seriously, I don't think you guys understand how Russians billionaires approach sport. Money isn't a problem when you are as rich as them. And Hard Cap as yet to be put in place.

Ok since you are having trouble understanding how the salary cap works, let me explain this

With Deron, Johnson, Wallace and Lopez signed, Nets cannot sign Dwight outright next summer when he becomes a free agent since they are very close to the salary cap limit!

Now the only way Dwight can be a Net is if Orlando is willing to do a Sign and Trade for Lopez, Brooks and filler in exchange for Dwight. There are reports that Orlando isn't interested in Nets package and are considering Bynum from Lakers or Rockets package to be more valuable.

So the chances of Dwight becoming a Net is very very low right now specially after this Joe Johnson deal

niko
07-02-2012, 06:03 PM
Not sure if the cash aspect works out but the rest of that deal makes sense. If another team is needed I guess they could try and rush a package together where Lopez goes to Houston since they are content at going after every big in the market.


Magic get = Brooks + drafted talent from Houston
Nets get = Dwight + Hedo's contract + ???
Rockets get = Lopez

No I did not check if this works but i'm sure its not that far off and talent wise should work for all teams if the Magic want to rebuild the Cavs, Thunder route

Edit: Reasons Magic don't want to is dealing with an eastern opponent. Rockets should have no issues seeing how much they were willing to facilitate the lakers with the cp3 deal
So the magic and rockets work a deal specifically to help the nets instead of with each other?

2LeTTeRS
07-02-2012, 06:03 PM
Hopefully this deal spurs Gerald Green to shake loose from Brooklyn now. Would hate to see him get buried on the bench after finally proving he was a real NBA player.

swi7ch
07-02-2012, 06:03 PM
DWill, D12, JoeJ vs LBJ, DWade, Boshtrich

:bowdown:

That's only in the ECF. Finals it will be: Durant, Westbrook, Harden!

this is what we'll see for the next 5+ years!

PleezeBehave
07-02-2012, 06:04 PM
You are pulling that out of your ass though. Otis up to the very end wanted to keep Dwight and was confident he'd stay.

You may think that all you want.

Punpun
07-02-2012, 06:04 PM
Ok since you are having trouble understanding how the salary cap works, let me explain this

I already adressed that.

CLTHornets4eva
07-02-2012, 06:04 PM
Danny Ferry is a god! Getting Ammo and a first to get rid of Joe is awesome. Now Atlanta can use Josh to get the best deal possible and even start a quick rebuild.

niko
07-02-2012, 06:04 PM
Seriously, I don't think you guys understand how Russians billionaires approach sport. Money isn't a problem when you are as rich as them. And Hard Cap as yet to be put in place.
Dolan is worth a billion. Knicks and MSG conglomerate worth much more. We could never do that, why would he?

No Evans!
07-02-2012, 06:04 PM
So if the Hawks amnesty Marvin,they can keep Josh Smith via cap hold and have max cap room next summer. Josh Smith and Anthony Morrow are 2 of Dwight's best friends

via Zach Lowe

simcjt
07-02-2012, 06:06 PM
So the magic and rockets work a deal specifically to help the nets instead of with each other?
Let me know what talent the Rockets have that justified dwight on their own (Either to rebuild or make a playoff run)? Also, this deal has to be set up in a way that has Dwight stay for more than a year.

Please pm if you don't feel like posting but i'd love to hear a better deal than the one i posted dealing with the rockets.

Meticode
07-02-2012, 06:06 PM
Glad to see Ferry still doing well.

Punpun
07-02-2012, 06:06 PM
Dolan is worth a billion. Knicks and MSG conglomerate worth much more. We could never do that, why would he?

Because Prokhorov is worth way more than a billion ? Because hiss "friend" sinked one billion in CHelsea and won't stop anytimes soon.

wang4three
07-02-2012, 06:07 PM
Hopefully this deal spurs Gerald Green to shake loose from Brooklyn now. Would hate to see him get buried on the bench after finally proving he was a real NBA player.

He was good when the Celtics we're bad too.

simcjt
07-02-2012, 06:08 PM
Hopefully this deal spurs Gerald Green to shake loose from Brooklyn now. Would hate to see him get buried on the bench after finally proving he was a real NBA player.
The one true victim of today's deal :cry:

tpols
07-02-2012, 06:10 PM
To those complaining Deron wont be able to win championships.. where else is he going to win them? Dallas? With 40 year old Dirk? They have like a negative 2 year championship window. His best bet is to start up new in Brooklyn with a solid team around him. Joe Johnson is an extremely good second option and if B-lo can put in some work this year and stay healthy along with their good role players(Crash, Marshon, Green) theyll be a top 5 team in the East for the next few years.

niko
07-02-2012, 06:10 PM
I already adressed that.
What you want to happen CANNOT happen under nba rules. Note i wrote cannot, not will not. It's not possible. Do you think you understand the rules and all the rest of us do not?

flipogb
07-02-2012, 06:11 PM
NETS are gonna be awesome in NBA2K13 , in fact il try the team out now

niko
07-02-2012, 06:11 PM
Because Prokhorov is worth way more than a billion ? Because hiss "friend" sinked one billion in CHelsea and won't stop anytimes soon.
Believe what you want.

Punpun
07-02-2012, 06:12 PM
What you want to happen CANNOT happen under nba rules. Note i wrote cannot, not will not. It's not possible. Do you think you understand the rules and all the rest of us do not?

No, I think you guys don't know about Russian Billionaires & Sport.

fefe
07-02-2012, 06:12 PM
The one true victim of today's deal :cry:
Dont worry. Brooks will be gone in the Howard trade, so Green will have enough playing time backing up JJ and Crash at SG and SF

niko
07-02-2012, 06:12 PM
To those complaining Deron wont be able to win championships.. where else is he going to win them? Dallas? With 40 year old Dirk? They have like a negative 2 year championship window. His best bet is to start up new in Brooklyn with a solid team around him. Joe Johnson is an extremely good second option and if B-lo can put in some work this year and stay healthy along with their good role players(Crash, Marshon, Green) theyll be a top 5 team in the East for the next few years.
People wanted the nets to wait for Dwight even though dude is insane. SMH. You are right.

niko
07-02-2012, 06:13 PM
No, I think you guys don't know about Russian Billionaires & Sport.
You're either 12 years old or just stupid. :lol

simcjt
07-02-2012, 06:13 PM
Dont worry. Brooks will be gone in the Howard trade, so Green will have enough playing time backing up JJ and Crash at SG and SF
Well if the trade ever happens

Punpun
07-02-2012, 06:14 PM
Believe what you want.

One Billion Euro by the way. Which is 1,26 Billion dollars or something like that.

Punpun
07-02-2012, 06:14 PM
You're either 12 years old or just stupid. :lol

Stop projecting. Dwight signing can happen. It may not happen. But the Nets can still sign him.

:yaohappy:

KG215
07-02-2012, 06:15 PM
What you want to happen CANNOT happen under nba rules. Note i wrote cannot, not will not. It's not possible. Do you think you understand the rules and all the rest of us do not?

I'm pretty sure that's EXACTLY what he thinks. This is the same guy who believes Roger Goodell suspended the Saints head coach for an entire season along with other players for all, 1/2 or 1/4 of a season because the $1K-$5K being thrown into bounty pots as a way to "circumvent the NFL salary cap."

D12"Magic"
07-02-2012, 06:16 PM
People wanted the nets to wait for Dwight even though dude is insane. SMH. You are right.
Whats your opinion on the trade? Nets could be a top 5 team next year if healthy

Kingwillball
07-02-2012, 06:16 PM
Will the Nets turn around and try to entice Orlando with a Johnson + Lopez + Brooks package for Dwight? :confusedshrug:

Nah need Brooks to Start.. How about JJ, Lopez and a #1 pick..

KeyNote
07-02-2012, 06:16 PM
Man...Dwight is so stupid LOL

coming out with that statement over the weekend, not even realizing the team he prefers doesn't even have his back or want anything to do with him

Should've kept his mouth shut last season, played the season out, and opted out

he can always go to brooklyn next season for the mini-MLE :lol :lol :lol

Punpun
07-02-2012, 06:16 PM
n entire season along with other players for all, 1/2 or 1/4 of a season because the $1K-$5K being thrown into bounty pots as a way to "circumvent the NFL salary cap."

>Thinking the pot was of 5k
>Still being butthurt over that

Dude, grow up. You lost an argument. No need to still think about it hours after the fact. It's just petty.

niko
07-02-2012, 06:17 PM
Stop projecting.

:yaohappy:
Dude, you cannot break rules in paying players. I wish you could. Because you love the Howard to nets idea does not change the rules, nor does how rich an owner is.

Again, is everyone here, on twitter, all the nba guys wrong and you are right?

k0kakw0rld
07-02-2012, 06:17 PM
NETS are gonna be awesome in NBA2K13 , in fact il try the team out now
You mean Live 13? Current Nets roster in 2k13 is the best in the game lol Morrow is a god.

fefe
07-02-2012, 06:18 PM
What you want to happen CANNOT happen under nba rules. Note i wrote cannot, not will not. It's not possible. Do you think you understand the rules and all the rest of us do not?
S&T Lopez, Brooks and 2 1st rd picks can happen under NBA rules.
Nets can even s&t humphries for turkoglu. they jave bird rights to humphries.

Its actually just as good as the Lakers offer of Bynum plus whoever...
The difference is that Dwight only wants Brooklyn.

simcjt
07-02-2012, 06:18 PM
You're either 12 years old or just stupid. :lol


One Billion Euro by the way. Which is 1,26 Billion dollars or something like that.

Are you two even arguing the same thing right now? All i saw punpun say is that the owner wouldn't go broke trying to pay a hardcap penalty.

Nike, are you saying the Nets can not S&T for dwight because of the cap? The last 2 pages just seem to be a back and forth of naming calling.

We are not talking about the talent in the trade just that it is legally possible to to lets say acquire D12 tomorrow if they can make the numbers match in a trade.

Punpun
07-02-2012, 06:18 PM
Dude, Broussard said the window is closed. Because he thinks like you. Doesn't mean the window is closed for the Nets. They can still sign Dwight. Without breaking the rules by the way. They will go way over the cap but they can still do that.

It's A VC3!!!
07-02-2012, 06:18 PM
I am upset beyond words. This acquisition means that the earliest we can get Dwight is December. The Magic are shooing down every offer the Nets are making and I can assure you that we will head into Brooklyn with brook Lopez as our starting center.

BlackVVaves
07-02-2012, 06:19 PM
Seriously, I don't think you guys understand how Russians billionaires approach sport. Money isn't a problem when you are as rich as them. And Hard Cap as yet to be put in place.

I don't know if anyone has told you yet but, this isn't the wild wild west. There are actually, you know, rules, that prohibit teams' front offices, rich or not, from doing whatever the **** they wanna do. Net's owner can't write a $10 Million check to the Magic and say "thanks for Dwight, enjoy Lopez."

Maybe you should check out the regulations of the new CBA, cause all of your posts in this thread suggest you have no idea what a CBA is :confusedshrug:

simcjt
07-02-2012, 06:20 PM
I'm pretty sure that's EXACTLY what he thinks. This is the same guy who believes Roger Goodell suspended the Saints head coach for an entire season along with other players for all, 1/2 or 1/4 of a season because the $1K-$5K being thrown into bounty pots as a way to "circumvent the NFL salary cap."
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Can't even breath right now

niko
07-02-2012, 06:21 PM
Whats your opinion on the trade? Nets could be a top 5 team next year if healthy
Agree on that 100 percent. Mixed. I'd like brooks to get more PT, I think this cockblocks him. But agree with nets, Wallace trade was dumb BUT they did it. They did not have enough to get Howard, Deron said clearly he did not want to wait. So in that sense, that it keeps Deron, how can you argue?

I can't kill the trade, I get it, and I agree Nets should be in top few teams in East.

Btw, Deron is staying. BUT for that tiny pct, if he does not he is the biggest dick of all to me. But he staying.....

BlackVVaves
07-02-2012, 06:21 PM
Ok since you are having trouble understanding how the salary cap works, let me explain this

With Deron, Johnson, Wallace and Lopez signed, Nets cannot sign Dwight outright next summer when he becomes a free agent since they are very close to the salary cap limit!

Now the only way Dwight can be a Net is if Orlando is willing to do a Sign and Trade for Lopez, Brooks and filler in exchange for Dwight. There are reports that Orlando isn't interested in Nets package and are considering Bynum from Lakers or Rockets package to be more valuable.

So the chances of Dwight becoming a Net is very very low right now specially after this Joe Johnson deal

Thank you. The guy is either trolling hard, or typing while intoxicated.

Or, simply clueless :facepalm

Meticode
07-02-2012, 06:22 PM
I am upset beyond words. This acquisition means that the earliest we can get Dwight is December. The Magic are shooing down every offer the Nets are making and I can assure you that we will head into Brooklyn with brook Lopez as our starting center.
How in hell do they pay for that though? How can you pay for Deron Williams, Gerald Wallace Joe Johnson and Dwight Howard unless Howard takes a major major pay cut?

R.I.P.
07-02-2012, 06:22 PM
To those complaining Deron wont be able to win championships.. where else is he going to win them? Dallas? With 40 year old Dirk? They have like a negative 2 year championship window. His best bet is to start up new in Brooklyn with a solid team around him. Joe Johnson is an extremely good second option and if B-lo can put in some work this year and stay healthy along with their good role players(Crash, Marshon, Green) theyll be a top 5 team in the East for the next few years.

In two year Dirk will re-sign for 6-7 million a year. He

Punpun
07-02-2012, 06:23 PM
@Black, All that post you quoted said is that the Nets can still sign Dwight. Can. Not Will. It's pretty embarassing when a foreigner is schooling you guys on the use of verbs. As long as there still is a possibility of Dwight signing, I can use "can".

Kingwillball
07-02-2012, 06:24 PM
Doubr it can even happen how about Dealing JJ and Sign and Trade Lopez plus #1 for D12.. Nets than Sign Scola as FA

Nets new Starting Lineup, Dwill,Brooks,Wallace, Scola, D12

It's A VC3!!!
07-02-2012, 06:24 PM
To clear it up for everyone- the nets can s&t for Dwight but it cannot include brook Lopez until decemer. Nonetheless brook lopez will be the nets center for the start of the 2012-2013 NBA season.

flipogb
07-02-2012, 06:25 PM
the Nets only have to worry about the rules of cap and all that, I dont know
why we are worrying if they can "afford" Dwight.

KG215
07-02-2012, 06:25 PM
>Thinking the pot was of 5k
>Still being butthurt over that

Dude, grow up. You lost an argument. No need to still think about it hours after the fact. It's just petty.

I'm not sure what the > in your posts means, but here goes...

>You still have no proof they were throwing 10s and 100s of thousands of dollars (or even millions) into the bounty pots. The biggest the pot ever got was $50,000 and that's after it carried over for awhile since no one got the bounty from the game before or whatever.

>I lost that argument? Who decided or voted on that? No one told me about it.

simcjt
07-02-2012, 06:25 PM
[QUOTE=R.I.P.]In two year Dirk will re-sign for 6-7 million a year. He

guy
07-02-2012, 06:26 PM
Has Deron even made a decision?

2LeTTeRS
07-02-2012, 06:26 PM
Dude, Broussard said the window is closed. Because he thinks like you. Doesn't mean the window is closed for the Nets. They can still sign Dwight. Without breaking the rules by the way. They will go way over the cap but they can still do that.

The rules don't allow a team to go over the cap to sign a player. If the Nets do this deal the only option to get Dwight to Brooklyn would be to trade for him, unless you believe Dwight's signing for $5 mil a year.

MisterAmazing
07-02-2012, 06:28 PM
Worst contract in history is that of Joe Johnson.
Rashard Lewis's contract says hi

Kingwillball
07-02-2012, 06:28 PM
To clear it up for everyone- the nets can s&t for Dwight but it cannot include brook Lopez until decemer. Nonetheless brook lopez will be the nets center for the start of the 2012-2013 NBA season.


So Dwight should sit tight til December and nets can Send Lopez ,Wallace and future #1 in Dec for D12. Which serves him right for signing that extension in first place.

It's A VC3!!!
07-02-2012, 06:28 PM
How in hell do they pay for that though? How can you pay for Deron Williams, Gerald Wallace Joe Johnson and Dwight Howard unless Howard takes a major major pay cut?
Lopez will earn atleast 10-12 million. Howard will earn a few million more. The disparity is small enough that the nets can pay it off. The numbers were already done an hour ago on a netsdaily forum post and I I wasn't on my iPad I would link them to you.

simcjt
07-02-2012, 06:28 PM
To clear it up for everyone- the nets can s&t for Dwight but it cannot include brook Lopez until decemer. Nonetheless brook lopez will be the nets center for the start of the 2012-2013 NBA season.
Thank you.

Now, an even bigger question. Since Wallace has not officially signed his offer what exactly changes if they part ways on the deal in an attempt to now get a blindsided Dwight?

StateOfMind12
07-02-2012, 06:29 PM
Could Dwight Howard still be a Net if Deron Williams signs somewhere else (Dallas)?

I'm really not sure if Dwight only wants to play in Brooklyn because of Deron or if he wants to play in Brooklyn because he is just interested in that city so I'm kind of curious if he could still be a Net in this case.

simcjt
07-02-2012, 06:29 PM
Rashard Lewis's contract says hi
:oldlol: True but at least Lewis got past the 2nd round and into a finals

Punpun
07-02-2012, 06:29 PM
No one told me about it.

I just told you. And you should have understood from the conversation. Now go away with your out-of-topic stuff.

--

@Crown, and that's where I raised the point that Prokhorov is a Russian Billionaire and seeing how much they spend in soccer, (1 billion) 40 million of Luxury Tax and a payroll of 80/90 millions isn't exactly scary for him.

hawkfan
07-02-2012, 06:30 PM
WOW. This is a major salary dump. They took all the Nets garbage just to get rid of JJ. This is a little shocking.

Morrow and a first round pick and Stevenson.

Plus the Hawks can turn those expirers into another player down the line.

hawkfan
07-02-2012, 06:31 PM
Lopez will earn atleast 10-12 million. Howard will earn a few million more. The disparity is small enough that the nets can pay it off. The numbers were already done an hour ago on a netsdaily forum post and I I wasn't on my iPad I would link them to you.

Some team should offer Lopez a max deal.
The Hawks could, now with the cap space we have (and could get more if we trade Marvin Williams to the Cavs).

R.I.P.
07-02-2012, 06:32 PM
So going to the always fierce west to deal with the Thunder for 2 years and hope 1) Dirk stays healthy and 2) Someone worth a max contract wants to be in Dallas is a better deal?

That

R.I.P.
07-02-2012, 06:32 PM
I just told you. And you should have understood from the conversation. Now go away with your out-of-topic stuff.

--

@Crown, and that's where I raised the point that Prokhorov is a Russian Billionaire and seeing how much they spend in soccer, (1 billion) 40 million of Luxury Tax and a payroll of 80/90 millions isn't exactly scary for him.

Somebody ban the ****in troll already. :facepalm :facepalm

Punpun
07-02-2012, 06:32 PM
Cuban spends a lot on his team. Prokhorov is the next level.

2LeTTeRS
07-02-2012, 06:33 PM
Rashard Lewis's contract says hi

Rashard Lewis was mercifully bought out a few days ago, so that contract is no more. Kind of amazing that the Hornets had to cut that check to him even though he never played a second for them.

Punpun
07-02-2012, 06:34 PM
Somebody ban the ****in troll already. :facepalm :facepalm

How am I trolling ? How is anything I said on this topic about the Nets being able to sign Dwight and Prokhorov caring about spending money untrue ?

I truly don't understand why you and some other users are so angry over me just pointing out the truth.

niko
07-02-2012, 06:34 PM
Orlando does not want Lopez, Howard will be traded soon, he will decide he is much more flexible with no leverage. Dwight will NOT be a Net. Can he? Yes, but why does any of those scenarios make sense?

You are just as delusional as knick fans. Is it the water in NY?

Crown&Coke
07-02-2012, 06:35 PM
Cuban spends a lot on his team. Prokhorov is the next level.

and he was willing to suffer of years of sucking major NBA floor.

Im sure he got no issues with spending loot, or paying the tax, or dealing future draft picks to become good.

he already said his focus is on winning

Crown&Coke
07-02-2012, 06:35 PM
Rashard Lewis was mercifully bought out a few days ago, so that contract is no more. Kind of amazing that the Hornets had to cut that check to him even though he never played a second for them.

and it was an 8 figure check, amazing

niko
07-02-2012, 06:36 PM
How am I trolling ? How is anything I said on this topic about the Nets being able to sign Dwight and Prokhorov caring about spending money untrue ?

I truly don't understand why you and some other users are so angry over me just pointing out the truth.
No ones angry. But arguing something with wrong made up facts when everyone is correcting you is trolling, nothing else.

hawkfan
07-02-2012, 06:36 PM
Rashard Lewis's contract says hi

JJ made the Olympic team, 6 All-Star teams, the playoffs the last 5 seasons.
He's a legitimate star player.
Overpaid, definitely by about 5 million, but he's a star player.

Williams-Johnson-Brooks will be A level at the wings.
If the Nets do get Howard, then as a third option, JJ would be an excellent fit.

Dasher
07-02-2012, 06:36 PM
Max money a team can send in a trade is 3mil per year

(i.e. Lakers sent 500K to Dallas for Johnson-Odom's rights, they can only send 2.5Mil the balance of the year)
The Mavericks have 3 million to spend. The draft is the last day that money from 2011-12 season can be used. The money available goes back up to 3 million after draft night as it is the beginning of the next season.

All Net
07-02-2012, 06:36 PM
How am I trolling ? How is anything I said on this topic about the Nets being able to sign Dwight and Prokhorov caring about spending money untrue ?

I truly don't understand why you and some other users are so angry over me just pointing out the truth.

You aren't being realistic.

Punpun
07-02-2012, 06:39 PM
No ones angry. But arguing something with wrong made up facts when everyone is correcting you is trolling, nothing else.

Please, I'm not the only who pointed out that Dwight can still be traded to the Nets. Or are you somehow trying to say that I'm inventing that 1B number from the CHelsea owner ?

Those two things are fact by the way.

--

@All Nets, It's still in the realm of possibility for your team to sign D12. And I'm not inventing Chelsea's owner investing 1 Billion euro and counting over his time as the owner.

bleedinpurpleTwo
07-02-2012, 06:40 PM
I don't know if anyone has told you yet but, this isn't the wild wild west. There are actually, you know, rules, that prohibit teams' front offices, rich or not, from doing whatever the **** they wanna do. Net's owner can't write a $10 Million check to the Magic and say "thanks for Dwight, enjoy Lopez."

Maybe you should check out the regulations of the new CBA, cause all of your posts in this thread suggest you have no idea what a CBA is :confusedshrug:
He is implying that the Russian billionaires don't care about the pending super-cap penalties...unlike the Buss family.
He may be right.

OG LeeTSkeeT
07-02-2012, 06:40 PM
D-Will
Joe Johnson
Crash
Mirza Teletovic
Brook Lopez

http://i48.tinypic.com/od1e9.png

It's A VC3!!!
07-02-2012, 06:41 PM
Thank you.

Now, an even bigger question. Since Wallace has not officially signed his offer what exactly changes if they part ways on the deal in an attempt to now get a blindsided Dwight?

I'll be quite honest and in this case my opinion saddens me to no extent. After the acquisition of JJ,the nets will not attempt to obtain Howard this year.
I do believe they might try next year but brook Lopez will be the nets starting center next season.

tpols
07-02-2012, 06:42 PM
[QUOTE=R.I.P.]In two year Dirk will re-sign for 6-7 million a year. He

simcjt
07-02-2012, 06:42 PM
He is implying that the Russian billionaires don't care about the pending super-cap penalties...unlike the Buss family.
He may be right.
That's the only thing I ever saw him post to be honest. Not sure where the "No its impossible" came from. :confusedshrug:

The bounty stuff is funny but off topic even for personal ish bullshit

ProfessorMurder
07-02-2012, 06:43 PM
A. How f*cking stupid is Brooklyn?
B. How f*cking lucky is Atlanta?

C. How could Atlanta not grab Marshon?

simcjt
07-02-2012, 06:44 PM
I'll be quite honest and in this case my opinion saddens me to no extent. After the acquisition of JJ,the nets will not attempt to obtain Howard this year.
I do believe they might try next year but brook Lopez will be the nets starting center next season.
My question was more about possibility and less about what will actually go down. What could possible change with the 10 mil off the books?

simcjt
07-02-2012, 06:45 PM
A. How f*cking stupid is Brooklyn?
You are under estimating how sad it would have been to have Gerald Wallace be the main attraction in Brooklyn

B. How f*cking lucky is Atlanta?
Very

C. How could Atlanta not grab Marshon?
Nets are desperate not stupid. Example: What they gave away just to get Wallace

KG215
07-02-2012, 06:45 PM
Please, I'm not the only who pointed out that Dwight can still be traded to the Nets. Or are you somehow trying to say that I'm inventing that 1B number from the CHelsea owner ?

Those two things are fact by the way.

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@All Nets, It's still in the realm of possibility for your team to sign D12. And I'm not inventing Chelsea's owner investing 1 Billion euro and counting over his time as the owner.

You keep bringing up the Chelsea owner and $1B but why? The EPL and NBA aren't the same thing and don't work the same way.

R.I.P.
07-02-2012, 06:46 PM
Like Deron is going to wait another two years to free up cap space.. again. And of course that will mean the major attraction, Dirk, will be declining. Doesnt make sense.

Next year Deron, Dirk and Marion is worse than Deron, Joe Johnson, Wallace and Brook Lopez? Please. 18/4/4 is what Joe Johnson does in the play-offs every year. Dirk won a ****ing championship with that last year. It

Dasher
07-02-2012, 06:46 PM
The Prohkorov Plan:

Step 1. Sign Gerald Wallace for 10 mil a year.
Step 2. Trade for Joe Johnson's contract.
Step 3. Profit.

Bosnian Sajo
07-02-2012, 06:47 PM
Yall are forgetting about the Bosnian diamond, Teletovic! He will be the starting pf! :party:

Punpun
07-02-2012, 06:48 PM
You keep bringing up the Chelsea owner and $1B but why? The EPL and NBA aren't the same thing and don't work the same way.

It's to illustrate the "Russian Billionaire don't care about spending an awful amounts of money in their team" point.

tpols
07-02-2012, 06:48 PM
[QUOTE=R.I.P.]Next year Deron, Dirk and Marion is worse than Deron, Joe Johnson, Wallace and Brook Lopez? Please. 18/4/4 is what Joe Johnson does in the play-offs every year. Dirk won a ****ing championship with that last year. It

It's A VC3!!!
07-02-2012, 06:48 PM
My question was more about possibility and less about what will actually go down. What could possible change with the 10 mil off the books?

The biggest issue is not the money for the nets. The nets have absolutely nothing the Orlando magic want. If the nets retained their 6th pick a trade could go down easier. With 10 mill of the books the nets could soak hedos contract too but now that is completely out the realm of possibility. Well 99% unlikely.

R.I.P.
07-02-2012, 06:51 PM
It's to illustrate the "Russian Billionaire don't care about spending an awful amounts of money in their team" point.

Okay for the last time. The NBA has a salary cap that limits the possibilities to sign players. European football doesn

simcjt
07-02-2012, 06:51 PM
The biggest issue is not the money for the nets. The nets have absolutely nothing the Orlando magic want. If the nets retained their 6th pick a trade could go down easier. With 10 mill of the books the nets could soak hedos contract too but now that is completely out the realm of possibility. Well 99% unlikely.
Yeah, I know talent wise the only way it could possibly work is getting another team involved.

DirtySanchez
07-02-2012, 06:51 PM
Ok with the decision making the Nets franchise has done why does Dwight want to go there??? Johnson 83mill for three years. Are u kidding me?

DirtySanchez
07-02-2012, 06:52 PM
Maybe the Nets know Derin is gone???

Punpun
07-02-2012, 06:52 PM
[QUOTE=R.I.P.]Okay for the last time. The NBA has a salary cap that limits the possibilities to sign players. European football doesn

2LeTTeRS
07-02-2012, 06:54 PM
Not sure if this has been posted, but the last thing I've read is that the Nets won't be including a 1st rounder.


Adrian Wojnarowski: As teams finalize framework of Joe Johnson deal contingent on DWill commitment, Nets won't be sending future 1st to Atlanta, source tells Y! Twitter

R.I.P.
07-02-2012, 06:55 PM
That's where you're mistaken, they still can. I'm not even the only one saying it if you doubt what I write. You are just confused about what my "Prokhorov doesn't care about spending a ****loads" entailed.

Whatever dude. Keep trolling. You got five more posts out of me than the usual troll. Chalk it up on your screen as a win. :cheers:

Punpun
07-02-2012, 06:55 PM
That trade got a lil bit sweeter for the Nets if Woj is right. And he surely is.

OG LeeTSkeeT
07-02-2012, 06:55 PM
Can D-Will walk then the Nets somehow trade for Dwight?

Punpun
07-02-2012, 06:56 PM
Whatever dude. Keep trolling. You got five more posts out of me than the usual troll. Chalk it up on your screen as a win. :cheers:

We will agree to disagree then. To each his own.

LA_Showtime
07-02-2012, 07:00 PM
And now they traded Marvin Williams to Utah. The East is quickly becoming a joke.

oh the horror
07-02-2012, 07:02 PM
And now they traded Marvin Williams to Utah. The East is quickly becoming a joke.


For what?

NBA2k-Monster23
07-02-2012, 07:02 PM
The Nets had to do what they had to do and that was to get Joe Johnson. If the Nets had enough assets, Dwight would of been a Net a while ago. Dwight gave up his rights to become a free agent and be a Net in March. If he really wanted to hit the free agency market he would of screwed the Lakers over for 3 months and today he would already be a Brooklyn Net.

The Nets can still do a sign and trade but Brook Lopez can't be included. But if the Magic wait into December to trade Dwight he probably can still become a Net. As for right now, Dwight will not be able to go to Brooklyn and he could be traded by next week.

I still believe the Nets will have a good team, they just wont have Dwight. The Nets also play in the east so that's a huge plus. If I was the Nets GM right now I would be looking for some good role players to pair with Deron and Joe Johnson.

R.I.P.
07-02-2012, 07:02 PM
And now they traded Marvin Williams to Utah. The East is quickly becoming a joke.

For picks I assume? These Hawks are so going to make a run at some big players, probably Dwight and be better than the Nets. Hey maybe they

Droid101
07-02-2012, 07:03 PM
[QUOTE=R.I.P.]For picks I assume? These Hawks are so going to make a run at some big players, probably Dwight and be better than the Nets. Hey maybe they

LA_Showtime
07-02-2012, 07:03 PM
For what?

Devin Harris.

Droid101
07-02-2012, 07:04 PM
Devin Harris.
WTF??

LA_Showtime
07-02-2012, 07:05 PM
[QUOTE=R.I.P.]For picks I assume? These Hawks are so going to make a run at some big players, probably Dwight and be better than the Nets. Hey maybe they

blacknapalm
07-02-2012, 07:05 PM
LA is going to intensify their talks. dwight doesn't have many other options and a trade to LA means lakers own his bird rights. nets and warriors are out of the dwight sweeptakes now