I bet on my LIFE, the Cavs have the best backcourt in the NBA

[PleezeBelieve]

Yea MODS, go ahead and delete this thread just you like you did last when I predicted Kyrie Irving's rookie numbers EXACTLY (18 ppg 4.5 apg 3.5 rpg 46/40/90) and you deleted it for NO REASON.

Anyway, watch this clip and realize D-Wait will just as good as this young man:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgpXwCiRxgg&feature=youtube_gdata_player


Yea, go ahead and laugh. I can't imagine a more explosive backcourt in the last 25 years. Unbelievable the possibilities that are open for these two playing with each other.

[Wavy Crockett]

What should I kill you with?

[RoundMoundOfReb]

D will > Irving (right now at least)
JJ > Waiters (right now at least)

[Eric Cartman]

He hasn't played yet so you can't say they are the best simply because it hasn't been proved yet. He could be an epic bust for all we know.

[bmulls]

Does Westbrook/Harden count?

[PleezeBelieve]

What should I kill you with?
I support my case with facts. You do the opposite.

And you people wonder why I'm a prophet.

[PJR]

Name me the last guy who came off the bench in college and
became an all star in the NBA. :oldlol:

Waiters ceiling is Rodney Stuckey. If he becomes as good as him, Cavs fans should be fortunate.

[SacJB Shady]

the only thing that matters is if your winning. :confusedshrug:

[Wavy Crockett]

I support my case with facts. You do the opposite.

And you people wonder why I'm a prophet.

Where did you prove that Waiters will be good at?

:biggums:

[PleezeBelieve]

D will > Irving (right now at least)
JJ > Waiters (right now at least)
Only on 2k13.

Kyrie is already better than DWill and D-Wait is equal to JJ even as a rookie.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Don't ever call Dion that again.
RIP OP who will write the obituary?

[AlonzoGOAT]

You know what I see cavs improving this season as well. 22 wins with clear improve just 6 more years of lottery and I see .500

[PleezeBelieve]

Name me the last guy who came off the bench in college and
became an all star in the NBA. :oldlol:

Waiters ceiling is Rodney Stuckey. If he becomes as good as him, Cavs fans should be fortunate.
By February 2013, you'll be acting like this thread was never made.

[Meticode]

Dear InsideHoops Users,

Please disregard PleezeBelieve as a Cavaliers fan. None of our fanbase considers him a Cavaliers and more above anything he is a troll.

Sincerely,

Wayne Jorgensen

[Rainwound]

Only on 2k13.

Kyrie is already better than DWill and D-Wait is equal to JJ even as a rookie.
Care to back that up with the "facts" you mentioned?

[Deuce Bigalow]

Name me the last guy who came off the bench in college and
became an all star in the NBA. :oldlol:

Waiters ceiling is Rodney Stuckey. If he becomes as good as him, Cavs fans should be fortunate.

A bench player was drafted #4???

:biggums:

[Meticode]

A bench player was drafted #4???

:biggums:
Correct. Dion Waiters started the games on the bench, but he finished the games towards the end. He averaged 24 minutes per game. No one on Syracuse's roster averaged over 26 minutes per game. It's a ballsy move. We'll see how it goes.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Dear InsideHoops Users,

Please disregard PleezeBelieve as a Cavaliers fan. None of our fanbase considers him a Cavaliers and more above anything he is a troll.

Sincerely,

Wayne Jorgensen

Agreed.

I also watched more Dion than anyone else on this board I'm sure and he was the best player on our team. You wouldn't say James Harden is a "bench player" but he's not a starter. Same as Manu but Dion plays nothing like either of them. Just their roles are similar.

[PleezeBelieve]

2013 averages:

Kyrie: 21/7/4 47% 41% 91%

D-Wait: 16/3/4 44% 35% 75%

Best backcourt in the league.

[thelucifer69]

By February 2013, you'll be acting like this thread was never made.

By February 2013, you'll be acting like this thread was never made.:roll:

[Meticode]

2013 averages:

Kyrie: 21/7/4 47% 41% 91%

D-Wait: 16/3/4 44% 35% 75%

Best backcourt in the league.
Deron Williams + Joe Johnson

Tony Parker + Manu Ginobili

...just a couple that are considered better by me. I would proabbly add Paul + Billups to that if Billups resigns. They played awesome together before Billups got injured.

In any case I'm a realest when it comes to this. Most people consider you a troll and idiot.

[hangintheair]

Dear InsideHoops Users,

Please disregard PleezeBelieve as a Cavaliers fan. None of our fanbase considers him a Cavaliers and more above anything he is a troll.

Sincerely,

Wayne Jorgensen


:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Meticode]

By February 2013, you'll be acting like this thread was never made.:roll:
He already does this with a number of threads. He either trolls super hard, or he has a mental disorder. Either way it's sad. :(

[hangintheair]

2013 averages:

Kyrie: 21/7/4 47% 41% 91%

D-Wait: 16/3/4 44% 35% 75%

Best backcourt in the league.


Kobe +any PG says HI!!

[coin24]

:milton

Best backcourt?:lol

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Only on 2k13.

Kyrie is already better than DWill and D-Wait is equal to JJ even as a rookie.
Okay, obviously this is a troll.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Stop giving my team a bad name.

[EveryManALion]

I want to write off Pleeze but the magic he pulled in the Miguel Pietrus post is just too good...:cheers:

[CLTHornets4eva]

Only on 2k13.

Kyrie is already better than DWill and D-Wait is equal to JJ even as a rookie.

:facepalm No wonder nobody likes you.

[Meticode]

Stop giving my team a bad name.
Most posters know he's ridiculous anyway. Nothing to really worry about.

[Meticode]

I want to write off Pleeze but the magic he pulled in the Miguel Pietrus post is just too good...:cheers:
No it wasn't. He's a f*cking idiot. Plain and simple.

[Fudge]

Kyrie is already better than DWill and D-Wait is equal to JJ even as a rookie.
:roll:

[KG215]

PleezeBelieve is the type of poster you want to meet in real life to see if this how he really is, or if he's just trolling. Because you know if this who he really is, and he's making these ridiculous predictions to his "friends" they more than likely just laugh at him or ignore him.

Wasn't he saying Cleveland would regret taking Irving over Derrick Williams last year? And now he knows they're gonna have the best backcourt in the league with an unproven rookie and second year PG? K.

[boozehound]

Yea MODS, go ahead and delete this thread just you like you did last when I predicted Kyrie Irving's rookie numbers EXACTLY (18 ppg 4.5 apg 3.5 rpg 46/40/90) and you deleted it for NO REASON.

Anyway, watch this clip and realize D-Wait will just as good as this young man:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgpXwCiRxgg&feature=youtube_gdata_player


Yea, go ahead and laugh. I can't imagine a more explosive backcourt in the last 25 years. Unbelievable the possibilities that are open for these two playing with each other.
too bad your life aint worth much.

[devin112]

By February 2013, you'll be acting like this thread was never made.

By then, we'll be acting like you never posted here.

[Real Men Wear Green]

too bad your life aint worth much.
Approximately two shits. (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=216885)

[RIP CITY]

I bet on my LIFE, the Cavs have the best backcourt in the NBA....

You must not value your life that much...

[Rainwound]

Approximately two shits. (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=216885)
:roll: :roll:

[Meticode]

If people don't already know, here is PleezeBeleive April of 2011...

His thread title: How overrated is Kyrie Irving???


Off the top of my head, the Cavs and Raps fanbases have convinced themselves that this guy is Jesus in a point guard jersey. They actually want to tank and trade established NBA players just for the best opportunity to draft this dude.

Don't ask me how, but its a fact.

Now moving on... when's the last time a prospect received so much hype for basically doing nothing?? Duke won the championship with the same team he re-joined and basically stymied ball movement in the loss against Arizona.

The guy is a 6'1 attacking, scoring guard that many have convinced themsleves is the best point guard prospect since Jason Kidd.

What the hell are people smoking, man???
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=216885

[LBJMVP]

i sure hope we have the best backcourt, but i wouldn't bet my life on it.

it a possibility in a couple years though.

we might have the best frontcourt with the

GOAT tyler zeller!!!! :D

[Silenttristo]

If people don't already know, here is PleezeBeleive April of 2011...

His thread title: How overrated is Kyrie Irving???


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=216885

Meticode FTW!

Also, if we're just making up what backcourts will average next year, here you go -

Deron Williams - 24ppg 13apg 3rpg 50% 43% 103%
Joe Johnson - 39ppg 6apg 9rpg 52% 40% 96%.

That's right. Deron Williams will make more free throws than he attempts. Trust me, I'm never wrong about this stuff.

[stallionaire]

Best backcourts in NBA

Rockets
Bucks
Spurs
Thunder

[inclinerator]

r.i.p pleezebelive

[d.bball.guy]

http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/wtf/grand/wtf-eccbc87e4b5ce2fe28308fd9f2a7baf3-1325.gif

[Real Men Wear Green]

r.i.p pleezebelive
He can't be shamed off the board if he doesn't have any sense of shame.

[raprap]

Wall and Beal are better :coleman:

[Mach_3]

Only on 2k13.

Kyrie is already better than DWill and D-Wait is equal to JJ even as a rookie.

http://up-ship.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/maximum-trolling.jpg

[PleezeBelieve]

This thread has received 1000+ views in two hours, on a Monday, in the offseason, two days before the 4th of July.

I have posters creating their names in respect to me. Everyone nicknames themselves 'PB'.

What I say matters.

Deal with it.

[Droid101]

Six red bars.

[KyrieTheFuture]

This is just hilarious. I'll admit I bit earlier but this is just such an obvious troll job now. Quit buyin it people.

[I LUV KOBE]

Kobe +any PG says HI!!
This Kobe + any PG in the league is the best backcourt in the league and not even close..

[UtahJazzFan88]

Yea MODS, go ahead and delete this thread just you like you did last when I predicted Kyrie Irving's rookie numbers EXACTLY (18 ppg 4.5 apg 3.5 rpg 46/40/90) and you deleted it for NO REASON.

Anyway, watch this clip and realize D-Wait will just as good as this young man:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgpXwCiRxgg&feature=youtube_gdata_player


Yea, go ahead and laugh. I can't imagine a more explosive backcourt in the last 25 years. Unbelievable the possibilities that are open for these two playing with each other.

Future negged for last years stupidity about Kyrie.

[B-Easy8]

I would take Wall and Beal over the Cavs backcourt.

[ralph_i_el]

John Wall >irving
Beal > waiters

if we are talking long term imo

[DurantFor40]

Rest in Peace.

[SilkkTheShocker]

John Wall >irving
Beal > waiters

if we are talking long term imo


LOL

You're a Wizard fan, right? Sorry, but Irving shits over Wall.

[ralph_i_el]

LOL

You're a Wizard fan, right? Sorry, but Irving shits over Wall.

the team composition dragged him down the last 2 years. If he had any shooters his efficiency and assists would probably be increased noticeably. Look at how often he gets to the line already! That's a fuction of teams stacking the paint because there's no threat of shooters...and he's still dishing out 8 a game.

The only thing Irving has on wall is shooting. Wall is more athletic, a better defender, better at getting to the rim, and has better court vision

[Apogee]

This thread has received 1000+ views in two hours, on a Monday, in the offseason, two days before the 4th of July.

I have posters creating their names in respect to me. Everyone nicknames themselves 'PB'.

What I say matters.

Deal with it.

Woah you must be a tough guy with all these posters creating names for you..whatever that means. I don't care how many views your thread has, you got shown up by meticode and thats that. Explain why you flip flop on players and then we'll talk. if you post after this and not address it your obviously just ****ed in the head

[SilkkTheShocker]

the team composition dragged him down the last 2 years. If he had any shooters his efficiency and assists would probably be increased noticeably. Look at how often he gets to the line already! That's a fuction of teams stacking the paint because there's no threat of shooters...and he's still dishing out 8 a game.

The only thing Irving has on wall is shooting. Wall is more athletic, a better defender, better at getting to the rim, and has better court vision


I not denying that Wall can dish it out and take it to the hole. He going to be better now with a shooter in Beal. But Irving didn't have much to work with either. But the guy can shoot, drive, and facillitate. He needs to work on his defense, but he is pretty close to the total package for a PG imo. As for Waiters/Beal, aside from height, they really have nothing in common. Beal, is a much better shooter and underrated rebounder. Waiters is a more explosive scorer, especially when going to the rack. So im going to reserve my judgement until I see those two play.

[Arroyo8]

no

[SilkkTheShocker]

the team composition dragged him down the last 2 years. If he had any shooters his efficiency and assists would probably be increased noticeably. Look at how often he gets to the line already! That's a fuction of teams stacking the paint because there's no threat of shooters...and he's still dishing out 8 a game.

The only thing Irving has on wall is shooting. Wall is more athletic, a better defender, better at getting to the rim, and has better court vision


Irving is much easier to build around. He really has no major holes in his game. One of the best shooters in the league, underrated slasher, better ball-handler, and a much better clutch player. Irving single-handedly willed Cleveland to wins in some 4th quarters (Boston, Denver, Sacramento). And he was working with less talent than Wall. His best pick n roll parter (Varejao) got injured early in the season. And he was splitting time with ramon Sessions for awhile. And he still won ROY. Thats impressive

[ralph_i_el]

Irving is much easier to build around. He really has no major holes in his game. One of the best shooters in the league, underrated slasher, better ball-handler, and a much better clutch player. Irving single-handedly willed Cleveland to wins in some 4th quarters (Boston, Denver, Sacramento). And he was working with less talent than Wall. His best pick n roll parter (Varejao) got injured early in the season. And he was splitting time with ramon Sessions for awhile. And he still won ROY. Thats impressive

he was splitting time because his bad D kept him off the floor

[Meticode]

This thread has received 1000+ views in two hours, on a Monday, in the offseason, two days before the 4th of July.

I have posters creating their names in respect to me. Everyone nicknames themselves 'PB'.

What I say matters.

Deal with it.
800 of the views is you refreshing the page constantly. Loser: You.

Dealt with.

[SilkkTheShocker]

he was splitting time because his bad D kept him off the floor


He played bad d, for sure. But you think Sessions is going to rot on the bench when Cleveland is trying to move him at the deadline? There is a reason they got a 1st round pick for him at the deadline. He could be starting for another team, Cleveland couldn't just give him 15 mpg no matter what.

With Wall, all you ever hear is about his athelticism or potential. When the guy still isn't a great finisher, can't shoot, and has questionable bball IQ. I have my doubts he can ever be the best player on a high-seeded playoff team. And he still played with more talent than Irving did in Cleveland. Alonzo Gee, Ryan Hollins, Anthony Parker, etc. Not that easy to generate points with that offense. Wall has no excuses now though. Nene, Beal, Ariza, etc. Thats plenty to get in the playoffs in the east.

[Meticode]

he was splitting time because his bad D kept him off the floor
This is false.

He was splitting time because Byron Scott wanted him to be acclimated to the NBA game. Please understand that Irving just came off a freshman year where he played 11 games where he has rest in-between those games. He didn't want Irving to get a major injury or get gassed by suddenly starting and playing 36 a game in a compressed scheduled...I think it's safe to say we saw a ton of players fall with injury because of that.

If you watch and track his minutes he ends up getting more minutes in the second half of the season because he Scott felt Irving was getting better conditioned for the NBA game. Before the all-star game I believe Irving was averaging about 25 minutes per game..

[chips93]

This is false.

He was splitting time because Byron Scott wanted him to be acclimated to the NBA game. Please understand that Irving just came off a freshman year where he played 11 games where he has rest in-between those games. He didn't want Irving to get a major injury or get gassed by suddenly starting and playing 36 a game in a compressed scheduled...I think it's safe to say we saw a ton of players fall with injury because of that.

If you watch and track his minutes he ends up getting more minutes in the second half of the season because he Scott felt Irving was getting better conditioned for the NBA game. Before the all-star game I believe Irving was averaging about 25 minutes per game..

im not sure i agree with this

i remember hearing coach scott say that irving would have to earn his minutes, meaning the reason he wasnt gettin more minutes wasnt, as you say, to get acclimated, or avoiding injury, etc., it was because his play didnt merit any more minutes than he was getting

[wally_world]

DJ Augustin and Gerald Henderson says hi

[Mr Exlax]

Did you say that Kyrie Irving was better than Dwill?

[Real Men Wear Green]

Did you say that Kyrie Irving was better than Dwill?
What he says doesn't even matter. Trade them and he'll switch positions instantly.

[Mr Exlax]

What he says doesn't even matter. Trade them and he'll switch positions instantly.

He's a die hard Cavs fan like that?

[chips93]

He's a die hard Cavs fan like that?

PB's sole aim in life is to garner attention

thats all that matters to him

if he has to look like to a fool to do it, he doesnt seem to mind

dude is downright pathetic

[Mr Exlax]

PB's sole aim in life is to garner attention

thats all that matters to him

if he has to look like to a fool to do it, he doesnt seem to mind

dude is downright pathetic


Ahhh ok. I stopped reading everything once i made it to that part though. I was like wtf this guy can't be serious.

[Rnbizzle]

Someone put OP out of his misery..

[Hittin_Shots]

Rondo/ AB gonna break out