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niko
07-03-2012, 01:18 PM
Damn canucks just had to **** things up didn't you. :lol Stein is reporting, will have terms soon.

Zackmorris
07-03-2012, 01:20 PM
So we are at offseason war with Raptors now

And the deal is for 3 years

It's A VC3!!!
07-03-2012, 01:22 PM
How come the Raptors aren't looking for a huge mega-star. They want to fill with great role players and older players but try going after mega-stars. Easier said then done obviously.

bluechox2
07-03-2012, 01:24 PM
**** , there goes our chances at nash

bluechox2
07-03-2012, 01:24 PM
did fields sign it?

Zackmorris
07-03-2012, 01:25 PM
How come the Raptors aren't looking for a huge mega-star. They want to fill with great role players and older players but try going after mega-stars. Easier said then done obviously.

They did this just to cockblock the potential sign and trade for Nash with the Knicks.

****ing Fields!


did fields sign it?

He agreed with the Raptors to do this.

niko
07-03-2012, 01:26 PM
3 yrs $20M. Haha.

**** him, let him go there.

bluechox2
07-03-2012, 01:27 PM
knicks should tell fields they will sign him to the same amount and trade him closer to california

Legends66NBA7
07-03-2012, 01:29 PM
I guess DeMar moves to the 3 spot.

bluechox2
07-03-2012, 01:30 PM
i dont understand the raptors fascination trying to contend for the 8th spot and a first round exit with these moves

go after dwight for **** sake and be better than average for once and then hit the lottery after diwght leaves after one season

niko
07-03-2012, 01:30 PM
What a terrible signing. I guess they were worried we'd sign Nash. I am sure he's thrilled the Raptors are removing options for him.

hawkfan
07-03-2012, 01:31 PM
So we are at offseason war with Raptors now

And the deal is for 3 years

He's not worth 3 years, 20 million. The Knicks should simply let him go and sign another player at minimum.

Sarcastic
07-03-2012, 01:32 PM
$20 million? For Landry Fields?

http://legacy-cdn.smosh.com/smosh-pit/012011/situation-omg.gif

bluechox2
07-03-2012, 01:32 PM
He's not worth 3 years, 20 million. The Knicks should simply let him go and sign another player at minimum.
its not about matching or keeping him, he was our major pawn for getting nash to ny

fields was one his way out the moment we spoke to nash

It's A VC3!!!
07-03-2012, 01:33 PM
Since we're on the Knicks, I find it very very shocking on why you don't hear them trying to better there team. They lost to the Heat in 5. Would have been 4 if it weren't for Melo. They obviously need to get better. They have assets too. They should salary dump or get complimentary peices.

Although I do feel they are a terrific team "when healthy".

Zackmorris
07-03-2012, 01:34 PM
He's not worth 3 years, 20 million. The Knicks should simply let him go and sign another player at minimum.

We all know he is not worth it. We was going to use him to try and get Nash.

I hope Knicks don't match him. Let him go away.

Legends66NBA7
07-03-2012, 01:34 PM
i dont understand the raptors fascination trying to contend for the 8th spot and a first round exit with these moves

The money that comes with selling playoff tickets, I guess.

Sarcastic
07-03-2012, 01:34 PM
Since we're on the Knicks, I find it very very shocking on why you don't hear them trying to better there team. They lost to the Heat in 5. Would have been 4 if it weren't for Melo. They obviously need to get better. They have assets too. They should salary dump or get complimentary peices.

Although I do feel they are a terrific team "when healthy".

You realize how many injuries they had in that series, no? Like 60% of the starting lineup was out for most of the time.

Bosnian Sajo
07-03-2012, 01:34 PM
thats not SO bad. I mean Asik is getting 23mil :oldlol:

niko
07-03-2012, 01:34 PM
Since we're on the Knicks, I find it very very shocking on why you don't hear them trying to better there team. They lost to the Heat in 5. Would have been 4 if it weren't for Melo. They obviously need to get better. They have assets too. They should salary dump or get complimentary peices.
Everyone is restricted. We needed to go after Nash first then fill in everyone else. That's why we are waiting. What you are saying is like me saying "Why isn't Deron signed yet?"

Lin can't leave and Novak can't leave unless we let them. JR Smith seems to want to stay. It's that extra piece.

I'd assume full Mini MLE to Kidd, 2/3 years soon.

wagexslave
07-03-2012, 01:35 PM
They did this just to cockblock the potential sign and trade for Nash with the Knicks.

That deal was never going to happen anyways. Nobody wants to do the Knicks a favor and eat their salary cap up so they can get Nash. I'd much rather the Suns get nothing at all out of losing Nash and simply use his capspace to sign free agents than take on the garbage that was supposedly offered... :facepalm

red1
07-03-2012, 01:35 PM
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Legends66NBA7
07-03-2012, 01:36 PM
go after dwight for **** sake and be better than average for once and then hit the lottery after diwght leaves after one season

:oldlol:

They have no chance at getting Howard. Dude wants no part of the franchise, the way it is right now... and I'm sure with how the off season is going, doesn't want to do a one and done.

It's A VC3!!!
07-03-2012, 01:36 PM
You realize how many injuries they had in that series, no? Like 60% of the starting lineup was out for most of the time.

Yes, why play a season hoping that if one of your players is out, you are out completely. Too many stars is never good. A role player being injured is difficult to overcome too, but it is true that the Knicks are a deadly team when healthy.

Hopefully the Knicks and Nets play in the playoffs.

All Net
07-03-2012, 01:37 PM
what happens with Nash?

bluechox2
07-03-2012, 01:38 PM
That deal was never going to happen anyways. Nobody wants to do the Knicks a favor and eat their salary cap up so they can get Nash. I'd much rather the Suns get nothing at all out of losing Nash and simply use his capspace to sign free agents than take on the garbage that was supposedly offered... :facepalm
the centerpiece of that garbage got 20 million

Raz
07-03-2012, 01:39 PM
So we are at offseason war with Raptors now

And the deal is for 3 years

Toronto is rocking it! Now to trade Bargnani and Derozan for a decent player

Legends66NBA7
07-03-2012, 01:40 PM
what happens with Nash?


RT @bruce_arthur: It's all about Nash. This is Bryan Colangelo throwing everything he's got to get one guy. All-in.

RT @bruce_arthur: And if it works, Nash basically costs $56M over three years, with Landry Fields thrown in. Hoo boy.

From Twitter sources.

Legends66NBA7
07-03-2012, 01:40 PM
Toronto is rocking it! Now to trade Bargnani and Derozan for a decent player

I doubt either guy is moving, let alone both.

Knicksfever2010
07-03-2012, 01:41 PM
Damn canucks just had to **** things up didn't you. :lol Stein is reporting, will have terms soon.

there was no guarantee nash was coming to the knicks. This post and OP is Shameful, JUST SHAMEFUL.

JtotheIzzo
07-03-2012, 01:42 PM
Stupid signing by a shit franchise. They could have gotten quality for that price.

Landry Fields?:roll:

DuMa
07-03-2012, 01:43 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZtFM198ZC78/T-B_P0ts0LI/AAAAAAAALPI/AOlu5OyGBIM/s1600/jackie-chan-wtf.png

niko
07-03-2012, 01:44 PM
there was no guarantee nash was coming to the knicks. This post and OP is Shameful, JUST SHAMEFUL.
I was clearly joking. Don't get butthurt because you always feel the need to make a new thread so people see your pointless opinions.

Have any new threads? WAHT IF TIGERS ATE AN ENTIRE NBA TEAM?

bagelred
07-03-2012, 01:45 PM
WTF? I leave the forum for one second........

Landry Fields!!!!:rant

Sarcastic
07-03-2012, 01:46 PM
That deal was never going to happen anyways. Nobody wants to do the Knicks a favor and eat their salary cap up so they can get Nash. I'd much rather the Suns get nothing at all out of losing Nash and simply use his capspace to sign free agents than take on the garbage that was supposedly offered... :facepalm

It wasn't about doing the Knicks a favor. It was about doing Steve Nash a favor. Jordan and Gadzuric have non guaranteed contracts and can be cut. It would have given the Suns a semi valuable player in Landry Fields, $3 million in cash, and Toney Douglas who is expiring and still has some value, all in exchange for Nash getting an extra $7 million per year. As it is, the Knicks can still get Nash, but he would only make $3 million.

bluechox2
07-03-2012, 01:49 PM
its a verbal agreement anyway, anything can happen in next few days to chang fields mind

Skywalker
07-03-2012, 01:50 PM
Landry Fields is horrible what am I missing? LMFAO

8/4/horrible FT shooter. It takes 7 mil per year to sign a defensive wingman these days?

niko
07-03-2012, 01:50 PM
Landry Fields is horrible what am I missing? LMFAO

8/4/horrible FT shooter. It takes 7 mil per year to sign a defensive wingman these days?
i'm not sure why they didn't just offer Nash the extra money instead.

bluechox2
07-03-2012, 01:52 PM
i'm not sure why they didn't just offer Nash the extra money instead.
:lol true

FireDavidKahn
07-03-2012, 01:52 PM
Bill Simmons summed it up perfectly.


Bill Simmons ‏@sportsguy33
Kudos to Toronto: Any time you can spend $20 mill on an 11th man to pave the way to spend $36 mill on a 39 year old PG, you have to do it.
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Rab
07-03-2012, 01:53 PM
i'm not sure why they didn't just offer Nash the extra money instead.
:oldlol:

bluechox2
07-03-2012, 01:53 PM
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
RT @chadfordinsider: Knicks could offer Shumpert, Douglas, Gadzuric, Harrellson & Jordan to Suns to get Nash four years, $42M. Trumps Raps?

i dont like it

Legends66NBA7
07-03-2012, 01:54 PM
Bill Simmons summed it up perfectly.

Sounds like our team management, alright...

Kingwillball
07-03-2012, 01:54 PM
Didnt read through whole thread so in a nutsheel Ratros offered Fields so Knicks cant do a sign and trade with Suns ? Honestly Let Nash go to Toronto and be irrelevant if he isnt ASKING to go to NY than Take care.

bagelred
07-03-2012, 01:55 PM
i'm not sure why they didn't just offer Nash the extra money instead.

Because I think that Raps think that Nash truly wants Knicks, even for some less money. But Nash won't go there for $ 3 million.

Wow. I never ever saw this coming.

And actually, if my math is correct, the Raptors do NOT have cap space to sign Fields AND make Nash $12 million offer. They'll have to amnesty someone, probably Calderon, to make it happen.

FireDavidKahn
07-03-2012, 01:56 PM
Sounds like our team management, alright...
Hey don't feel too bad. Kahn is probably almost as bad. I know how you feel.:oldlol:

Rab
07-03-2012, 01:56 PM
i dont like it
As a Suns fan, neither do I. Shumpert I'd take. The rest? Blah.

bluechox2
07-03-2012, 01:57 PM
Because I think that Raps think that Nash truly wants Knicks, even for some less money. But Nash won't go there for $ 3 million.

Wow. I never ever saw this coming.

And actually, if my math is correct, the Raptors do NOT have cap space to sign Fields AND make Nash $12 million offer. They'll have to amnesty someone, probably Calderon, to make it happen.
we should go get calderon or do a sign and trade for him if nash elects to the raps offer

Sarcastic
07-03-2012, 01:57 PM
No way the Knicks give up Shumpert for S/T for Nash. Would be the dumbest move of all time.

Zackmorris
07-03-2012, 01:58 PM
Knicks can still S&T for Nash but it would come at the expense of losing Shumpert.

I don't know if I could get behind that.

bluechox2
07-03-2012, 01:58 PM
bye bye nash, id rather put my full support behind lin rather lose shumpert

niko
07-03-2012, 01:59 PM
There was no guarantee we would get Nash anyway. I don't understand how it's all of a sudden like we lost him. When was the chance we were getting him anything but tiny?

Rab
07-03-2012, 02:00 PM
I don't think Nash decides anything until D-Will signs somewhere anyway. If he goes to the Nets, I think Dallas jumps right to the top of the list.

bagelred
07-03-2012, 02:00 PM
Listen, what can you say. I would liked to see Nash a Knick and I wanted Fields to remain a Knick. But if Raptors want to spend $56 million combined for 3 years on an old Steve Nash and a role player, let them do it......

Jason Kidd baby!!!! $3 million. I bet he takes it. :cheers:

This f-cks up alot for the Knicks...no Fields, no Nash and no MLE which could have went to Camby instead of backup PG.

bluechox2
07-03-2012, 02:00 PM
There was no guarantee we would get Nash anyway. I don't understand how it's all of a sudden like we lost him. When was the chance we were getting him anything but tiny?
i was 100% behind that tiny chance, not its all gone

bluechox2
07-03-2012, 02:02 PM
Listen, what can you say. I would liked to see Nash a Knick and I wanted Fields to remain a Knick. But if Raptors want to spend $56 million combined for 3 years on an old Steve Nash and a role player, let them do it......

Jason Kidd baby!!!! $3 million. I bet he takes it. :cheers:

This f-cks up alot for the Knicks...no Fields, no Nash and no MLE which could have went to Camby instead of backup PG.
minus fields, we can offer kidd 3 mill with a s&t with dallas featuring tony :lol

niko
07-03-2012, 02:02 PM
i was 100% behind that tiny chance, not its all gone
It might have been gone anyway. Nash was more than likely not going to sign with us for $15M less in total, with Toronto willing to go more years and money. It was not a viable option, it was people in media deciding it was because Knicks lost out and we always need to bash them.

bagelred
07-03-2012, 02:04 PM
minus fields, we can offer kidd 3 mill with a s&t with dallas featuring tony :lol

Haha....hey you never know!!! Maybe Dallas does it for some reason. Knicks can throw in cash to make Mavericks whole. :cheers: Maybe throw back that European prospect they gave up to us.

RaininThrees
07-03-2012, 02:05 PM
I love Bryan Colangelo.

I also love vanilla, the colour beige, sensible shoes and first round playoff exits.

bluechox2
07-03-2012, 02:08 PM
most likely though, knicks will now go hard after felton

wagexslave
07-03-2012, 02:09 PM
the centerpiece of that garbage got 20 million
20 million I'm glad the Suns didn't waste.

All Net
07-03-2012, 02:09 PM
What can they offer Nash now?

bluechox2
07-03-2012, 02:12 PM
What can they offer Nash now?
not sure if we have anything else to offer

MeLO MvP 15
07-03-2012, 02:12 PM
To all those saying Shumpert would need to be included in a Nash sign and trade, um not really. Phoenix doesn't really need much value back and it's not like Shump's contract would help add much more to Nash's new contract.

Rekindled
07-03-2012, 02:14 PM
To all those saying Shumpert would need to be included in a Nash sign and trade, um not really. Phoenix doesn't really need much value back and it's not like Shump's contract would help add much more to Nash's new contract.

right now, not including shump knicks can offer nash 7 m, with shump roughly 10m

Freedom Kid7
07-03-2012, 02:15 PM
Going for a guy that's a decent role player at best instead of a proven top PG?
http://static.fjcdn.com/comments/+_94ce405201b93479f41a206ffdb33fcd.jpg

Scoooter
07-03-2012, 02:16 PM
No way the Knicks give up Shumpert for S/T for Nash. Would be the dumbest move of all time.
Unless his injury means he isn't the same player anymore. A shredded knee can really mess with your lateral quickness, and it's not like he has spot-up shooting or playmaking to fall back on. I think the smart move is to get value for him now before we're stuck paying a gimp.

If he gets back to 100% somewhere else than so be it.

bluechox2
07-03-2012, 02:18 PM
johnhollinger John Hollinger
RT @bearfights: @johnhollinger thank god this new CBA is preventing owners from handing out absurd contracts to marginal players

:lol

T-Low
07-03-2012, 02:18 PM
The contract is worth 18.7....

niko
07-03-2012, 02:19 PM
an unnamed Knick front office guy on Fields leaving. "Nice Guy, Can't Play".

niko
07-03-2012, 02:20 PM
The contract is worth 18.7....
Well that's ok, because he's worth $6MM a year, just not $6.2MM. :lol

It's A VC3!!!
07-03-2012, 02:20 PM
The Raptors prove yet again that there interest is to remain mediocre. After this 20 million dollar contract for an alright player, the Raptors will continue to be bad.

bagelred
07-03-2012, 02:21 PM
an unnamed Knick front office guy on Fields leaving. "Nice Guy, Can't Play".

Where did you read that?

DTreats
07-03-2012, 02:21 PM
Landry Fields is worth around 2 years, 5 million maybe.

T-Low
07-03-2012, 02:21 PM
Well that's ok, because he's worth $6MM a year, just not $6.2MM. :lol

I will take the extra.....since they are just handing the contracts out, I will definitely play as a bench player...best bench player there is!

niko
07-03-2012, 02:22 PM
Where did you read that?
Ian O-Connor.

Sarcastic
07-03-2012, 02:23 PM
Unless his injury means he isn't the same player anymore. A shredded knee can really mess with your lateral quickness, and it's not like he has spot-up shooting or playmaking to fall back on. I think the smart move is to get value for him now before we're stuck paying a gimp.

If he gets back to 100% somewhere else than so be it.

He'll be fine, and back to normal.

http://knicksnow.com/videos/1543/shump-s-return-home-rehab

Meticode
07-03-2012, 02:23 PM
thats not SO bad. I mean Asik is getting 23mil :oldlol:
I thought it was $25 million? :oldlol:

Scoooter
07-03-2012, 02:23 PM
He's not worth the contract, but he'll do better away from Melo and Woodson.

More step-backs for JR though! :banana:

niko
07-03-2012, 02:25 PM
He's not worth the contract, but he'll do better away from Melo and Woodson.

More step-backs for JR though! :banana:
Fields shot much worse than JR did. No one shot as bad as Fields did. It was ridiculous.

DTreats
07-03-2012, 02:25 PM
Guess who Jeremy Lin's best friend is on the Knicks? Landry Fields, I wouldn't be surprised if Lin follows Fields to Toronto.

Scoooter
07-03-2012, 02:27 PM
He'll be fine, and back to normal.

http://knicksnow.com/videos/1543/shump-s-return-home-rehab
Michael Redd used to say the same thing. The difference is, Shump's game is based entirely on how athletic he is.

The Knicks would be smart (lol) to get a good measure of any interest in Shumpert.

Sarcastic
07-03-2012, 02:28 PM
He's not worth the contract, but he'll do better away from Melo and Woodson.

More step-backs for JR though! :banana:

Fields is one of the only players that shoots worse next to Melo. Even Iverson shot better with Melo on his team.

http://www.538host.com/carmelo.png

Scoooter
07-03-2012, 02:28 PM
Fields shot much worse than JR did. No one shot as bad as Fields did. It was ridiculous.
I did the banana.

NuggetsFan
07-03-2012, 02:28 PM
Fields shot much worse than JR did. No one shot as bad as Fields did. It was ridiculous.

Didn't J.R shoot like 31% and 17% from deep in the playoffs? :lol

niko
07-03-2012, 02:29 PM
Guess who Jeremy Lin's best friend is on the Knicks? Landry Fields, I wouldn't be surprised if Lin follows Fields to Toronto.
Nice post, except that it's all really stupid and not based on anything real.

Asiantastic
07-03-2012, 02:29 PM
Wow... The Raps could be using this money for a quality player instead of Fields. What a waste. This contract is about as bad as the one they gave Turkoglu.

Punpun
07-03-2012, 02:30 PM
Acting as if 36M over 3 years for Steve "Still one of the best PG" Nash is stupid, is actually preposterous.

:yaohappy:

niko
07-03-2012, 02:30 PM
Didn't J.R shoot like 31% and 17% from deep in the playoffs? :lol
We are going to pick 5 game samples over the full season? Ok then. I'll take JR over Fields, thanks. I'd take player to be named later over Fields.

Scoooter
07-03-2012, 02:30 PM
Fields is one of the only players that shoots worse next to Melo. Even Iverson shot better with Melo on his team.

http://www.538host.com/carmelo.png
Don't forget Stoudemire. His game really took a nosedive.

I just think Fields do much better next year. Not 7 million a year better, Woodson didn't like him from day one, and that can wear on a player.

Maniak
07-03-2012, 02:31 PM
Nice post, except that it's all really stupid and not based on anything real.
Friendship is real.

niko
07-03-2012, 02:32 PM
Friendship is real.
Sigh. I surrender.

chazzy
07-03-2012, 02:33 PM
This is hilarious

NuggetsFan
07-03-2012, 02:33 PM
We are going to pick 5 game samples over the full season? Ok then. I'll take JR over Fields, thanks. I'd take player to be named later over Fields.

Didn't J.R shoot like 40% during the regular season and Fields 48%? :lol

bluechox2
07-03-2012, 02:33 PM
Royce Young ‏@dailythunder
If Landry Fields got $20 million for three years, James Harden has to be headed for something like four years, $500 million:lol

Ballin416
07-03-2012, 02:33 PM
I only have one thing to say as a casual raptors fan,



Who the hell is Landry Fields and what has he done to warrant 20 million over three years

Scoooter
07-03-2012, 02:34 PM
JR isn't really a problem on his own (although he isn't much of a help either). It's JR + Woodson that kills the Knicks.

Eric Cartman
07-03-2012, 02:35 PM
I only have one thing to say as a casual raptors fan,



Who the hell is Landry Fields and what has he done to warrant 20 million over three years

He is a scrub on the Knicks. Mediocrity at it's finest if you ask me.

NuggetsFan
07-03-2012, 02:36 PM
JR isn't really a problem on his own (although he isn't much of a help either). It's JR + Woodson that kills the Knicks.

J.R is an awesome wildcard. I'd prefer him over Fields anyday. Just find it funny complaining about Fields not making a shot. J.R can go on some nasty streaks both good and bad.

Killbot
07-03-2012, 02:36 PM
:roll: Bryan Colangelo is one stupid fck.

niko
07-03-2012, 02:37 PM
Didn't J.R shoot like 40% during the regular season and Fields 48%? :lol
Fields was awful. He didn't shoot as much, dissappeared all the time, played terrible defense and too many of his shots were 3 pt shots, which he sucked at. He was awful. Didn't rebound like he did prior either. So other than him not playing defense or offense well, he shined.

If you want to play the troll who wants to pretend Fields was great to needle the Knicks, go ahead. JR was so much better for us it wasn't funny. And this was with him shooting poorly.

alenleomessi
07-03-2012, 02:37 PM
Fields has no potential, he already reached his peak and that was his rookie season

niko
07-03-2012, 02:38 PM
Fields has no potential, he already reached his peak and that was his rookie season
He needs to run to really be effective. He also (for reasons i cannot understand) changed his jumpshot to this really flat shot that seemingly never goes in.

tomtucker
07-03-2012, 02:39 PM
I only have one thing to say as a casual raptors fan,



Who the hell is Landry Fields and what has he done to warrant 20 million over three years

this is him :

.
http://blogimages.thescore.com/tbj/files/2012/03/spike-lee-jersey.jpg

NuggetsFan
07-03-2012, 02:40 PM
Fields was awful. He didn't shoot as much, dissappeared all the time, played terrible defense and too many of his shots were 3 pt shots, which he sucked at. He was awful. Didn't rebound like he did prior either. So other than him not playing defense or offense well, he shined.

If you want to play the troll who wants to pretend Fields was great to needle the Knicks, go ahead. JR was so much better for us it wasn't funny. And this was with him shooting poorly.

Are you f*cking dense? Read a few posts up. Just thought it was funny saying you'd rather J.R throw shots up considering how inefficient J.R can be. Only area where Fields stands out. I'd take J.R anyday as I said :confusedshrug:

BuffaloBill
07-03-2012, 02:46 PM
The Raptors are perfect for Fields. He will have the breakout season that everyone was expecting after his freshman year. I'll put money on it.

Clutch
07-03-2012, 02:47 PM
Don't forget Stoudemire. His game really took a nosedive.

I just think Fields do much better next year. Not 7 million a year better, Woodson didn't like him from day one, and that can wear on a player.
Fields played like shit under D'Antoni too. He was great in the 1st half of his rookie season when he still could have shot the ball. Other than that he wasn't any good and in some occasions he was really bad.

I don't like J.R.Smith either,at least not in a role Woodson gave him. Smith should get 20-25 minutes per game and take no more than 10 shots.
Him playing 30+ minutes and taking 15+ shots isn't a recipe for success. I would much rather have Amare take more shots.

Well,we need to find a shooting guard and we need to do it fast. Fields will be gone,J.R. maybe too and Shump is out for a while.

Scoooter
07-03-2012, 02:49 PM
Fields played like shit under D'Antoni too. He was great in the 1st half of his rookie season when he still could have shot the ball. Other than that he wasn't any good and in some occasions he was really bad.

I don't like J.R.Smith either,at least not in a role Woodson gave him. Smith should get 20-25 minutes per game and take no more than 10 shots.
Him playing 30+ minutes and taking 15+ shots isn't a recipe for success. I would much rather have Amare take more shots.

Well,we need to find a shooting guard and we need to do it fast. Fields will be gone,J.R. maybe too and Shump is out for a while.
True, once Melo got there. That's why I said getting away from Melo and Woodson will be good for his game.

Keep up.

niko
07-03-2012, 02:50 PM
True, once Melo got there. That's why I said getting away from Melo and Woodson will be good for his game.

Keep up.
Good luck to him then. He's not worth close to $7M a year. That's just silly. For that much you can get a proven commodity that produces what he does when playing his best.

lilgodfather1
07-03-2012, 02:50 PM
Two shitty franchiss battling it out!!!!

Qwyjibo
07-03-2012, 02:51 PM
Colangelo is looking to lock down a 6-8 seed for the next few years! Ambition!

Scoooter
07-03-2012, 02:53 PM
Good luck to him then. He's not worth close to $7M a year. That's just silly. For that much you can get a proven commodity that produces what he does when playing his best.
Awesome. I never said he was.

We can always count on niko to attack arguments that aren't be made and make Knicks fans look like a bunch of insecure, reactionary nitwits.

Kind of like our franchise, actually.

:lol :lol

Clutch
07-03-2012, 02:54 PM
True, once Melo got there. That's why I said getting away from Melo and Woodson will be good for his game.

Keep up.
He had some nice stretches under Melo too. Fields thrives in a run and gun game. Once Melo and Billups got here our pace slowed down and ball movement was worse. Once Billups left it only got worse.
Still you can't blame Melo for screwing up Landry's jumpshot.

Fields is a solid player but surely not worth $19 mil. over 3 years.

Kiddlovesnets
07-03-2012, 02:55 PM
Two shitty franchiss battling it out!!!!

lol this...
:roll:

Scoooter
07-03-2012, 02:56 PM
He had some nice stretches under Melo too. Fields thrives in a run and gun game. Once Melo and Billups got here our pace slowed down and ball movement was worse. Once Billups left it only got worse.
Still you can't blame Melo for screwing up Landry's jumpshot.

Fields is a solid player but surely not worth $19 mil. over 3 years.
I can find a way to blame Melo for anything. Don't challenge me. :lol

Clutch
07-03-2012, 02:57 PM
I can find a way to blame Melo for anything. Don't challenge me. :lol
Then find it. How is Melo responsible for Landry screwing up his jumper ? I really want to see what you got :lol

Legends66NBA7
07-03-2012, 02:57 PM
:roll: Bryan Colangelo is one stupid fck.

Nothing new, really

niko
07-03-2012, 02:58 PM
Awesome. I never said he was.

We can always count on niko to attack arguments that aren't be made and make Knicks fans look like a bunch of insecure, reactionary nitwits.

Kind of like our franchise, actually.

:lol :lol
You can't look at the move independent of the salary. It's a signing. How does that work?

Scoooter
07-03-2012, 03:03 PM
Then find it. How is Melo responsible for Landry screwing up his jumper ? I really want to see what you got :lol
It's simple. Carmelo's heinous rolls of belly and titty fat - and the additional mass that cause them - created a subtle yet impactful change in the gravity fields on the court. Because Fields shoots with a relatively low arc - a less forgiving shot - his jumper was more noticeably affected by the gravitational pull of Carmelo's poor conditioning.

If you watch the film closely, all of Fields' misses bounced towards Carmelo. Which might also help explain Anthony's prowess as a rebounder.

:wtf:

Scoooter
07-03-2012, 03:05 PM
You can't look at the move independent of the salary. It's a signing. How does that work?
I already said he wasn't worth that money. You're like the Don Quixote of ISH.

Draz
07-03-2012, 03:06 PM
Nash wants money not rings.

Clutch
07-03-2012, 03:07 PM
It's simple. Carmelo's heinous rolls of belly and titty fat - and the additional mass that cause them - created a subtle yet impactful change in the gravity fields on the court. Because Fields shoots with a relatively low arc - a less forgiving shot - his jumper was more noticeably affected by the gravitational pull of Carmelo's poor conditioning.

If you watch the film closely, all of Fields' misses bounced towards Carmelo. Which might also help explain Anthony's prowess as a rebounder.

:wtf:
Interesting,but to be honest I expected more from you.

Scoooter
07-03-2012, 03:09 PM
Interesting,but to be honest I expected more from you.
Also I think he might somehow be a Nazi sleeper agent biding his time until they can get the Hitler clone working.

Qwyjibo
07-03-2012, 03:14 PM
Normally I don't pay too much mind to Simmons but he summarizes this fairly well:


Bill Simmons @sportsguy33 2h
Kudos to Toronto: Any time you can spend $20 mill on an 11th man to pave the way to spend $36 mill on a 39 year old PG, you have to do it.

A perfect example of a desperate GM.

Sarcastic
07-03-2012, 03:17 PM
True, once Melo got there. That's why I said getting away from Melo and Woodson will be good for his game.

Keep up.

I'm not sure where you are getting that from. Every one of his best games was a game in which Melo played too.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/fieldla01/gamelog/2012/

Scoooter
07-03-2012, 03:18 PM
I'm not sure where you are getting that from. Every one of his best games was a game in which Melo played too.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/fieldla01/gamelog/2012/
I imagine that would be true of all of his worst games too.

I get my information by actually watching the Knicks.

Rekindled
07-03-2012, 03:21 PM
Nash wants money not rings.

if that's true, why hasnt he signed with tornoto already, then toronto wouldnt have to overpay fields to screw the knicks

Sarcastic
07-03-2012, 03:22 PM
I imagine that would be true of all of his worst games too.

I get my information by actually watching the Knicks.

Too many to count.

bagelred
07-03-2012, 03:31 PM
Landry Fields' first born son's name?


Nash Fields

Pablooo5
07-03-2012, 03:48 PM
Come on...For who are those deals.Neither Nash,nor Fields won't came to the Raptors.Canadian teams were average,are average and will be average.

GoRapz
07-03-2012, 03:51 PM
Damn as a Raptor fan I don't like this move at all but DAMN Colangelo stay trollin the knicks :roll: :roll:

ClutchOver9000
07-03-2012, 04:51 PM
nice knowing ya Landry...

hope Canada does wonders for you.

BTW...smh at Raptors...is it possible for them to look any more desperate?

IGotACoolStory
07-03-2012, 04:54 PM
Landry Fields' first born son's name?


Nash Fields


Steve Nash's grandfather's (who raised him) name?


Landry Nash.


:lebronamazed:

Dagouch
07-03-2012, 04:57 PM
I wonder if that Model is going to move to Toronto with Him? hahahaha. NOPE.

Himan12
07-03-2012, 05:15 PM
Cant wait for BC to leave the raptors, the guy is special. He "sees" things in the draft and FA that no one else can.

:applause:

blacknapalm
07-03-2012, 05:24 PM
for all the talk about overpaid, this one is most egregious imo. imagine what harden gets if fields is going to get $20 million. $450 million ?

AMISTILLILL
07-03-2012, 05:24 PM
nice knowing ya Landry...

hope Canada does wonders for you.

BTW...smh at Raptors...is it possible for them to look any more desperate?

It's a smart move. Call it desperation if you want, but it effectively removes one of Nash's biggest enticing offers. Landry's contract is back-loaded... at worst, they eat his contract for 2 manageable seasons and dish his expirier in his final year, when he's owed the most. It's hardly the terrible idea some people are pretending it is.

The Ownage
07-03-2012, 05:25 PM
Fields' stats will inflate in Toronto, thus looking like he may deserve the contract.

But have fun in Toronto Landry. No way will the Knicks match this.

Celtic_Pride
07-03-2012, 05:27 PM
Good

Don't like Nash joining the Knicks!

Sarcastic
07-03-2012, 05:31 PM
It's a smart move. Call it desperation if you want, but it effectively removes one of Nash's biggest enticing offers. Landry's contract is back-loaded... at worst, they eat his contract for 2 manageable seasons and dish his expirier in his final year, when he's owed the most. It's hardly the terrible idea some people are pretending it is.

It's paying him about an additional $3 million the first 2 year over what he is really worth. So couple that with $12 million they are offering Nash, it really comes to $15 million a year they are paying to get Nash in Toronto. That's a lot for a 39 year old PG, and it's not like they are a contender with Nash putting them over the top. It's to bring Canada's son home to retire.

BlackVVaves
07-03-2012, 05:43 PM
It's paying him about an additional $3 million the first 2 year over what he is really worth. So couple that with $12 million they are offering Nash, it really comes to $15 million a year they are paying to get Nash in Toronto. That's a lot for a 39 year old PG, and it's not like they are a contender with Nash putting them over the top. It's to bring Canada's son home to retire.

Like the Raptors front office cares. Clearly, Colangelo is all about filling seats at this point. Not like they were signing any other worthwhile free agents with all that cap space anyway.

His main objective is to **** the Knicks. When you're a losing franchise compilled of bad management and low-quality players with a future as dim as an gaping asshole, you find pleasure in the side-stories that somehow keep you relevant for 15 seconds.

Kujo
07-03-2012, 05:59 PM
I just heard about this on the radio on the way home from work. Pure comedy. This is what the Raptors off-season has been so far. BC is insane. :banghead: :hammerhead: :wtf:

No chance in hell the Knicks match right? I'm guessing unless the Knicks are able to work out some sign & trade deal, Fields will be a Raptor for the next 3 years.

Blue&Orange
07-03-2012, 06:02 PM
[QUOTE]It

Blue&Orange
07-03-2012, 07:36 PM
Fields Girlfriend,

http://perlbal.hi-pi.com/blog-images/255368/gd/1271516215/Elaine-Alden-Sunshine-State-Stunner.jpg


http://www.thewindyapple.com/2012/06/10/spotted-landry-fields-and-elaine-alden/


:bowdown:

niko
07-03-2012, 09:25 PM
It's a smart move. Call it desperation if you want, but it effectively removes one of Nash's biggest enticing offers. Landry's contract is back-loaded... at worst, they eat his contract for 2 manageable seasons and dish his expirier in his final year, when he's owed the most. It's hardly the terrible idea some people are pretending it is.
Except Nash is going to sign in Dallas or LA. They could have offered Nash the money and only needed to pay him if he signed.

Toronto just paid Landy field $20M over three years to sit on their bench. Nice work.

dgaras
07-03-2012, 09:27 PM
hahahahahahahahahahaha

so damn funny.

boozehound
07-03-2012, 09:29 PM
Fields' stats will inflate in Toronto, thus looking like he may deserve the contract.

But have fun in Toronto Landry. No way will the Knicks match this.
toronto is an awesome town. small minded provincial douches like you dont seem to realize.

boozehound
07-03-2012, 09:31 PM
Except Nash is going to sign in Dallas or LA. They could have offered Nash the money and only needed to pay him if he signed.

Toronto just paid Landy field $20M over three years to sit on their bench. Nice work.
nah, I dont see it. hes not going to turn 12 mil per down.

RaininTwos
07-03-2012, 09:49 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-pSsDGBC3RtY/T6IiTiYlIDI/AAAAAAAABDU/ljXb7fTDYG8/s1600/jackie-chan-wtf.png

The Ownage
07-04-2012, 06:25 AM
toronto is an awesome town. small minded provincial douches like you dont seem to realize.
Yeah it is. I wasn't trying to bring down Toronto itself. Maybe using "Raptors" would have been more suitable.

jbot
07-04-2012, 06:37 AM
yet another year of mediocrity.

el gringos
07-04-2012, 07:47 AM
the stars are aligning for the trade of the century

Amare + j Lin
for
Bargnani + Calderon + kleiza + amir Johnson

then Nash comes to toronto, fields and Amir go to phoenix and Fry goes to NY


ok maybe thats too much to give NY a dynasty and toronto and phoenix happy
Calderon/foye
JR Smith/Kleiza
Carmelo/Novak
Bargnani/j jeff
Chandler/Krstic

the heat couldnt handle that

Pablooo5
07-04-2012, 08:13 AM
the stars are aligning for the trade of the century

Amare + j Lin
for
Bargnani + Calderon + kleiza + amir Johnson

then Nash comes to toronto, fields and Amir go to phoenix and Fry goes to NY


ok maybe thats too much to give NY a dynasty and toronto and phoenix happy
Calderon/foye
JR Smith/Kleiza
Carmelo/Novak
Bargnani/j jeff
Chandler/Krstic

the heat couldnt handle that
:wtf:
RAPTORS:hammerhead:
LEBRON - :coleman:

Pablooo5
07-04-2012, 08:30 AM
We'll see in the next days how rapacious is Landry Fields or not at all?
Big money in the average/weak team,or normal (little bit less) money in the legendary franchise,which has a promising team that may be once on top.
I'm veeeery big fan of the Knicks and I much hope that Landry will choose NYK.

bagelred
07-04-2012, 09:20 AM
We'll see in the next days how rapacious is Landry Fields or not at all?
Big money in the average/weak team,or normal (little bit less) money in the legendary franchise,which has a promising team that may be once on top.
I'm veeeery big fan of the Knicks and I much hope that Landry will choose NYK.

He already chose the Raptors. You're not paying attention?

You think its greedy for Landry to turn down a 3 year, $20 million offer? When Knicks probably would not offer half that? Are you serious? Do the Knicks even want Landry Fields or just want him to sign and trade him?

I'm a veeeery big fan of the Knicks and I hoped that landry would choose NYK, but its over, he didn't, and he shouldn't have. I would take that Raptors offer too.

knickballer
07-04-2012, 09:34 AM
He already chose the Raptors. You're not paying attention?

You think its greedy for Landry to turn down a 3 year, $20 million offer? When Knicks probably would not offer half that? Are you serious? Do the Knicks even want Landry Fields or just want him to sign and trade him?

I'm a veeeery big fan of the Knicks and I hoped that landry would choose NYK, but its over, he didn't, and he shouldn't have. I would take that Raptors offer too.

Unfortunately Knick fans can be huge idiots.. I think it's a easy choice even if the salaries are the same. In NY he has to deal with the malcontent wannabe superstars where he'll have to defer to them and play out of position while Melo/Amare both proceed to chuck 20 shots a game. Atleast in Toronto he has a chance to develop..