Minnesota pulling out all stops to get Pau Gasol.

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The Minnesota Timberwolves are pulling out all the stops in an effort to land Pau Gasol.
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7:03 PM - 3 Jul 12 via Twitter for Mac

I don't know what offer they might make us but if it helps us get Dwight to then this could be great. I think Derrick Williams would be included in any proposed deals.

[IGOTGAME]

Nobody wants Derrick Williams.

[fpliii]

I don't know about that...you're ditching both bigs then, and getting one premier player back in return

doesn't seem like it's worth it if Williams is going to be coupled with Bynum to get Dwight (who may be a rental)

[longtime lurker]

Nobody wants Derrick Williams.

Lol cosign. I have a feeling all the stops doesn't include Rubio or Kevin Love.

[BallsOut]

No thanks. They don't have enough to give up for Pau. A third team must be involved. The only player that the Lakers want from them that they're willing to give up is Beasley.

[rhythmic]

I'd rather keep Pau then get a package centered around Derrick Williams.
He is too unproven.

[Rowe]

It would have to involve Williams, Webster, + Sign & Trades of Beasley, Randolph.

Lakers should jump on that.

4 Forwards for a declining PF.

[BallsOut]

It would have to involve Williams, Webster, + Sign & Trades of Beasley, Randolph.

Lakers should jump on that.

4 Forwards for a declining PF.

Once upon a time, Rowe said it was ridiculous for Minnesota to give up their 2nd round draft pick PF, Beasley and others in a trade that helps the Lakers.

Today Rowe eats crow.

[Rekindled]

It would have to involve Williams, Webster, + Sign & Trades of Beasley, Randolph.

Lakers should jump on that.

4 Forwards for a declining PF.

you cant play all 4 them at the same time can u

quality > quanitity . who the fck starts at 4 for the lakers? randolPH? rofl

[NBA2k-Monster23]

In any trade scenarios I don't see the Lakers taking on Derrick Williams. I see Derrick Williams going to a 3 team in a 3 way trade. Maybe something like this.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=c25xyaw

Now correct me if I'm wrong but everybody gets better in this deal. Atlanta would get a expiring contract in Webster, last year #2 overall pick in derrick Wlliams, and a 2013 first round pick from Minnesota . If it doesn't work out they could always flip Derrick Williams for others pieces. Minnesota gets Pau and the Lakers get Smith. I don't know if Atlanta wouldn't mind doing this deal but it's just a scenario.

[Rowe]

Once upon a time, Rowe said it was ridiculous for Minnesota to give up their 2nd round draft pick PF, Beasley and others in a trade that helps the Lakers.

Today Rowe eats crow.
Not really.

I can't prevent stupid from occurring.

You know and I know Minnesota pursuing Gasol is ridiculous.

[Rowe]

you cant play all 4 them at the same time can u

quality > quanitity . who the fck starts at 4 for the lakers? randolPH? rofl

I'd start Beasley at PF.

He's a better fit for the High-Low with Bynum + has the ability to create his shot from the perimeter. Only problem is both he and Bynum are still young and somewhat immature for their own young age.

[Rekindled]

I'd start Beasley at PF.

He's a better fit for the High-Low with Bynum + has the ability to create his shot from the perimeter. Only problem is both he and Bynum are still young and somewhat immature for their own young age.

any team with beasley starting at the 4 isnt going past the 2nd round

[BallsOut]

Not really.

I can't prevent stupid from occurring.

You know and I know Minnesota pursuing Gasol is ridiculous.

No I don't. It's not ridiculous at all. Gasol is way better than Williams/Beasley/scrub fillers. This guy already single-handedly lead Memphis to good playoff runs and is a career 18/10 guy.

Williams doesn't have enough upside to warrant any trade involving Gasol coming back to the Wolves unless a 3rd team is involved where the main piece wouldn't even be Williams. He'd be like a throw in.

[04mzwach]

Pek + Williams is the deal, I thought. Anyway, hopefully the Batum trade goes down if this happens.

[YAWN]

Lakers send out Bynum & Gasol
Receive Dwight Howard, J Rich, JJ Barea

Magic send out Dwight & J Rich
Receive Bynum, Derrick Williams, Wesley Johnson, Chase Budinger

Wolves send out Derrick Williams, Wesley Johnson, Chase Budinger, JJ Barea
Receive Pau Gasol

Then Lakers use TPE for Varejao!

:D

[FireDavidKahn]

A Batum and Gasol off season would vault MN into a top 4 team in the Western Conference.

[Rowe]

any team with beasley starting at the 4 isnt going past the 2nd round
Same can be said about Gasol right now.

The difference is 1 guy is 22 and hasn't consistently played up to his potential and the other guy is 32 and is gradually getting worse due to unknown reasons.

I'd take the gamble that all 3 of Cool Beas, Williams, & Randolph "pan out" as they enter their prime years.

[Rowe]

A Batum and Gasol off season would vault MN into a top 4 team in the Western Conference.
You really think so?

[FireMcFailPlease]

A Batum and Gasol off season would vault MN into a top 4 team in the Western Conference.
if we can do this while keeping pek, best front court in the west.

[04mzwach]

if we can do this while keeping pek, best front court in the west.
Yeah. It wouldn't matter what seed we get, we'd be the scariest team in the playoffs.

[SevereUpInHere]

if we can do this while keeping pek, best front court in the west.

Don't see any reason for Lakers to do this if they're not getting Pek back. Don't see any reason for Wolves to make Pek and Gasol split time at the 5 either really.

[FireMcFailPlease]

Don't see any reason for Lakers to do this if they're not getting Pek back. Don't see any reason for Wolves to make Pek and Gasol split time at the 5 either really.
yea its all probably a pipe dream anyways. cbn sports doesnt even have anything about this.

[FireDavidKahn]

You really think so?
I wouldn't think it's out of the question if/when Rubio returns at 100%.

[Maniak]

Hypothetically if they do get Pau, what does Minny's depth chart look like?

Does Love or Gasol take a majority of minutes at C?

[04mzwach]

Don't see any reason for Lakers to do this if they're not getting Pek back. Don't see any reason for Wolves to make Pek and Gasol split time at the 5 either really.
Yes, it would be too much of a good thing. We'll have to give the other teams a chance. :lol

[04mzwach]

Hypothetically if they do get Pau, what does Minny's depth chart look like?
Does Love or Gasol take a majority of minutes at C?
We're after Hill and Steisma. One of those would do if we have to get rid of Pek in the deal. Darko is still on the Wolves.

[hawksdogsbraves]

No way this happens. They wouldn't do Gasol for Josh Smith, so what makes you think they'd do Gasol for a bunch of garbage?

[Maniak]

We're after Hill and Steisma. One of those would do if we have to get rid of Pek in the deal. Darko is still on the Wolves.
That's true.

But how does Gasol fit in? Who starts? I'm kind of confused why the T'Wolves are looking at him aside from the fact that he's white.

[FireMcFailPlease]

Hypothetically if they do get Pau, what does Minny's depth chart look like?

Does Love or Gasol take a majority of minutes at C?
rubio/ridnour/barea
ridnour/ellington/lee?
bundiger/wes johnson
love/gasol/
gasol/pekovic

who knows whatll happen with batum/roy/whoever we're chasing...need a true SG badly.

[PickernRoller]

Wasn't Khan the one to offer Love for Pau a long time ago? You wanna pull out all the stops. Lets start with that one....

[FireMcFailPlease]

Wasn't Khan the one to offer Love for Pau a long time ago? You wanna pull out all the stops. Lets start with that one....
:roll: :roll: sounds good bro!!!1

[04mzwach]

That's true.

But how does Gasol fit in? Who starts? I'm kind of confused why the T'Wolves are looking at him aside from the fact that he's white.
Gasol plays as C. Love plays at PF. Rubio and Gasol are on the same Olympic team. Imagine Rubio, Love and Gasol on the same team. Imagine the ball distribution and scoring. Not to mention Minnesota needs more length as it is up front. Gasol fits in perfectly.

[RazorBaLade]

gotta give up pek, ******s

[PickernRoller]

:roll: :roll: sounds good bro!!!1

Sweet as honey :roll: :roll: :roll:

[04mzwach]

Wasn't Khan the one to offer Love for Pau a long time ago? You wanna pull out all the stops. Lets start with that one....
Yeah, we'll give you a guy going into his prime while we take a guy getting closer to retirement. How many picks does Minnesota get for this? Four 1st rounders?

[Maniak]

Sounds good.

It's weird to me, but I guess I need to get used to guys who are more of PFs(although Gasol is really a PF/C) can fit into the C spot much easier these days due to how weak centers are.

[PickernRoller]

Yeah, we'll give you a guy going into his prime while we take a guy getting closer to retirement. How many picks does Minnesota get for this? Four 1st rounders?

I am just saying Khan's obsession with Gasol knows no bounds. He has a thing for Spaniards and white boys....weird I know.

[longtime lurker]

They'd be better off dealing with Houston.

[RazorBaLade]

The only question is what angle are the lakers playing here? Bynum and pekovic is retarded. Pekovic and howard is retarded. Its all completely retarded.

[PyrrhusX]

A Batum and Gasol off season would vault MN into a top 4 team in the Western Conference.

Settle down there.

[04mzwach]

The only question is what angle are the lakers playing here? Bynum and pekovic is retarded. Pekovic and howard is retarded. Its all completely retarded.
Everything will be clearer for you when we unleash the "Mana from heaven" into your laps. :roll:

[Raz]

It would have to involve Williams, Webster, + Sign & Trades of Beasley, Randolph.

Lakers should jump on that.

4 Forwards for a declining PF.

I would jump all over that if I'm the Lakers, but I would want to re-direct one of those guys for a point guard that can play defense and hit a 3.

[NumberSix]

Lakers with Kobe+Dwight+Love+Nash


:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[MJ(Mean John)]

I don't know about that...you're ditching both bigs then, and getting one premier player back in return

doesn't seem like it's worth it if Williams is going to be coupled with Bynum to get Dwight (who may be a rental)

Go back far enough, 3 bigs.

[blablabla]

maybe the rockets are involved
something like lowry and williams to la martin and gasol to the wolves and pek to houston

[Pablooo5]

If the Wolves really want Gasol they have to trade Love (Lakers won't take nobody else).

[NumberSix]

If the Wolves really want Gasol they have to trade Love (Lakers won't take nobody else).
It would be fun for LAL to get K-Love, but let's be realistic here. They're not gonna trade their young all-star, franchise player for an older, less valuable player with a higher price tag.

[KeyNote]

unless there's a 3rd team involved that has an attractive piece that the lakers want, I just don't see it

Not with the Wolves...quite sure Love & Rubio are off limits...so that means they just don't have enough..maybe call up a team like memphis that has Z-Bo..

I don't know

[Pablooo5]

It would be fun for LAL to get K-Love, but let's be realistic here. They're not gonna trade their young all-star, franchise player for an older, less valuable player with a higher price tag.

I think so,so I wonder.

[PickernRoller]

Khan is not trading K.Love for Pau...last season we tried and he denied. I think it was in 2011 (before the season started) that he wanted a Pau for Love trade. After Pau's abyssmal playoff run and K-Love's amazing year he quickly forgot his stupidity.

Khan is still trying to acquire Gasol by pushing D_Williams as the centerpiece of the trade to which I say fvck you Khan.

[NBA2k-Monster23]

The only way I see this trade going down is Minnesota must bring in a 3 team.

[HeddaGambler]

How about something like this?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=87q2oo3

Minny gets Gasol.

Lakers get Al Jefferson, Brad Miller and Luke Ridnour.

Jazz get Derrick Williams and Wesley Johnson.

The Jazz have some extra assets to give if needed, but Johnson is basically a bust and Minny seem to be ready to give up on DWill2 after just one season.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Lakers send out Bynum & Gasol
Receive Dwight Howard, J Rich, JJ Barea

Magic send out Dwight & J Rich
Receive Bynum, Derrick Williams, Wesley Johnson, Chase Budinger

Wolves send out Derrick Williams, Wesley Johnson, Chase Budinger, JJ Barea
Receive Pau Gasol

Then Lakers use TPE for Varejao!

:D

Lol so we are basically trading Gasol for JJ Barea?...

[D-Rose]

I think so,so I wonder.
There's absolutely no way Gasol for Love is happening, get over it.

[It's A VC3!!!]

Khan is not trading K.Love for Pau...last season we tried and he denied. I think it was in 2011 (before the season started) that he wanted a Pau for Love trade. After Pau's abyssmal playoff run and K-Love's amazing year he quickly forgot his stupidity.

Khan is still trying to acquire Gasol by pushing D_Williams as the centerpiece of the trade to which I say fvck you Khan.

Did Khan really attempt to give up a 22 year old Kevin Love for a player nearly 10 years old? WTF was going through his mind. The Lakers have thrived off of making trades that make no sense. They won two rings with the absurd Pau Gasol trade which should have never ever happened. Kevin Love is better then Gasol and will have a better career then him.

[ZenMaster]

Did Khan really attempt to give up a 22 year old Kevin Love for a player nearly 10 years old? WTF was going through his mind. The Lakers have thrived off of making trades that make no sense. They won two rings with the absurd Pau Gasol trade which should have never ever happened. Kevin Love is better then Gasol and will have a better career then him.

It was the other way around.

[It's A VC3!!!]

It was the other way around.

Oh, that makes sense. I was about to say...

[PickernRoller]

It was the other way around.

Didn't the talks originate the off-season right after the 10' Championship run? I bet it was Khan then....to which the Lakers prob said no in the search of a 3-peat with Pau. After the abyssmal playoff sweep talks resumed again in the following off-season to which Khan then said no after Love's breakout....I need to get my story straight.....it's been some time since then.

[ZenMaster]

Didn't the talks originate the off-season right after the 10' Championship run? I bet it was Khan then....to which the Lakers prob said no in the search of a 3-peat with Pau. After the abyssmal playoff sweep talks resumed again in the following off-season to which Khan then said no after Love's breakout....I need to get my story straight.....it's been some time since then.

I've never heard anything except Kahn turned them down.

"I bet it was Kahn then" = Pure speculation that takes root in you thinking every move Kahn has made has been bad.

I could be wrong, but I've never ready anything about LA rejecting Love for Pau, never ever.

[Rowe]

How about something like this?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=87q2oo3

Minny gets Gasol.

Lakers get Al Jefferson, Brad Miller and Luke Ridnour.

Jazz get Derrick Williams and Wesley Johnson.

The Jazz have some extra assets to give if needed, but Johnson is basically a bust and Minny seem to be ready to give up on DWill2 after just one season.
Jefferson is strictly a Center.

He wouldn't fit next to Bynum unless they want 2 big men struggling to get down the floor on offense or back on defense.

[PickernRoller]

I've never heard anything except Kahn turned them down.

"I bet it was Kahn then" = Pure speculation that takes root in you thinking every move Kahn has made has been bad.

I could be wrong, but I've never ready anything about LA rejecting Love for Pau, never ever.

Following 10' would have been a great decision imo, which is why it seems likely to me. I just really can't recall the rumors back then exactly although there were sources to back up the talks regardless...

A proven 2-time champion putting great, solid, consistent numbers in both runs against a young Love who wasn't yet an all-star caliber player nor had a big breakout year following the 2010 season....plz, Gasol was hotter than jalape

[LA_Showtime]

Jefferson is strictly a Center.

He wouldn't fit next to Bynum unless they want 2 big men struggling to get down the floor on offense or back on defense.

Yeah, I don't see why we'd break up the Gasol/Bynum tandem and replace it with Jefferson/Bynum, especially when Jefferson is injury prone, doesn't play defense, and is less versatile than Gasol. :oldlol:

[stallionaire]

Love for Kobe+Gasol+Bynum

(kidding, this is a knock at the Laker retards saying Love for Pau)

[PickernRoller]

Love for Kobe+Gasol+Bynum

(kidding, this is a knock at the Laker retards saying Love for Pau)

Way to troll and not troll at the same time....

Pau for Love only seems right....in my eyes. Love strictly a PF, Gasol a combo C/PF...

[stallionaire]

Way to troll and not troll at the same time....

Pau for Love only seems right....in my eyes. Love strictly a PF, Gasol a combo C/PF...

Never happening. Love is untouchable. I don't want any of your players for Love, period. He's the greatest PF in the game right now and he's 23. Who's the one trolling? :facepalm

[PickernRoller]

Never happening. Love is untouchable. I don't want any of your players for Love, period. He's the greatest PF in the game right now and he's 23. Who's the one trolling? :facepalm

As long as Khan wants them I am cool. You forgot you got no say.....Gasol is the best combo C/PF in the game....yes I am trolling.

[TheFan]

Lakers expecting too much... Gasol is a declining player on a bad contract... what do you want? Gasol for Kevin Love? get your shit straight...

Id jump on any deal that brings young players(forwards) and easy contracts.

[04mzwach]

JJ Barea, Webster, Williams is a fair trade for Gasol. It gives LA a lot in return.

[PJR]

You get Gasol for Kwame Brown, and four years later you think you're going to flip him for a 23 year superstar. :oldlol:

[The Choken One]

Never happening. Love is untouchable. I don't want any of your players for Love, period. He's the greatest PF in the game right now and he's 23. Who's the one trolling? :facepalm
Stat padding chucker.

and lol'd at the "I" comment...love kids who type like that. :roll:

[LakersForlife]

milicic for glass knee bynum and declining gasol

[HeddaGambler]

Yeah, I don't see why we'd break up the Gasol/Bynum tandem and replace it with Jefferson/Bynum, especially when Jefferson is injury prone, doesn't play defense, and is less versatile than Gasol. :oldlol:

Injury prone? He`s missed something like 4-5 games over the last two years in Utah, and two of those were because he attended a funeral.

Al says himself that he is a PF, but has to play center.