Vote - #10 Playoff Run of All-Time by a FMVP

[Deuce Bigalow]

1. 1995 Hakeem Olajuwon
2. 1991 Michael Jordan
3. 2000 Shaquille O'Neal
4. 1993 Michael Jordan
5. 1992 Michael Jordan
6. 2001 Shaquille O'Neal
7. 2003 Tim Duncan
8. 1994 Hakeem Olajuwon
9. 1984 Larry Bird


NBA Finals MVP - Postseason stats

YEAR PLAYER FG% PPG RPG APG BLKPG

2012 LeBron James .500 30.3 9.7 5.6 0.7
2011 Dirk Nowitzki .485 27.7 8.1 2.5 0.6
2010 Kobe Bryant .458 29.2 6.0 5.5 0.7
2009 Kobe Bryant .457 30.2 5.3 5.5 0.9
2008 Paul Pierce .441 19.7 5.0 4.6 0.3
2007 Tony Parker .480 20.8 3.4 5.8 0.0
2006 Dwyane Wade .497 28.4 5.9 5.7 1.1
2005 Tim Duncan .464 23.6 12.4 2.7 2.3
2004 Chauncey Billups .385 16.4 3.0 5.9 0.1
2003 Tim Duncan .529 24.7 15.4 5.3 3.3
2002 Shaquille O'Neal .529 28.5 12.6 2.8 2.5
2001 Shaquille O'Neal .555 30.4 15.4 3.2 2.4
2000 Shaquille O'Neal .566 30.7 15.4 3.1 2.4
1999 Tim Duncan .511 23.2 11.5 2.8 2.6
1998 Michael Jordan .462 32.4 5.1 3.5 0.6
1997 Michael Jordan .456 31.1 7.9 4.8 0.9
1996 Michael Jordan .459 30.7 4.9 4.1 0.3
1995 Hakeem Olajuwon .531 33.0 10.3 4.5 2.8
1994 Hakeem Olajuwon .519 28.9 11.0 4.3 4.0
1993 Michael Jordan .475 35.1 6.7 6.0 0.9
1992 Michael Jordan .499 34.5 6.2 5.8 0.7
1991 Michael Jordan .524 31.1 6.4 8.4 1.4
1990 Isiah Thomas .463 20.5 5.5 8.2 0.4
1989 Joe Dumars .455 17.6 2.6 5.6 0.1
1988 James Worthy .523 21.1 5.8 4.4 0.8
1987 Magic Johnson .539 21.8 7.7 12.2 0.4
1986 Larry Bird .517 25.9 9.3 8.2 0.6
1985 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.560 21.9 8.1 4.0 1.9
1984 Larry Bird .524 27.5 11.0 5.9 1.2
1983 Moses Malone .536 26.0 15.8 1.5 1.9
1982 Magic Johnson .529 17.4 11.3 9.3 0.2
1981 Cedric Maxwell .580 16.1 7.4 2.7 0.9
1980 Magic Johnson .518 18.3 10.5 9.4 0.4
1979 Dennis Johnson .450 20.9 6.1 4.1 1.5
1978 Westley Unseld .530 9.4 12.0 4.4 0.4
1977 Bill Walton .507 18.2 15.2 5.5 3.4
1976 Joe White .445 22.7 3.9 5.4 0.1
1975 Rick Barry .444 28.2 5.5 6.1 0.9
1974 John Havlicek .484 27.1 6.4 6.0 0.3
1973 Willis Reed .466 12.5 7.6 1.8
1972 Wilt Chamberlain .563 14.7 21.0 3.3
1971 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.515 26.6 17.0 2.5
1970 Willis Reed .471 23.7 13.8 2.8
1969 Jerry West .463 30.9 3.9 7.5

Voting Results

2009 Kobe Bryant - 18
1986 Larry Bird - 11
2012 Lebron James - 7
1971 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - 3
1983 Moses Malone - 2
2011 Dirk Nowitzki - 2
1987 Magic Johnson - 2
1998 Michael Jordan - 1

[RaininTwos]

*waits to vote for whoever has the best chance of beating lebron*

:roll:

[EnoughSaid]

Gotta show some love to the GOAT Center. I vote for Kareem in 1971.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

'12 lbj

[1987_Lakers]

It has to be between '86 Bird & '12 LeBron. Bird in my opinion is the better offensive player being the better shooter, post player, and passer, while LeBron has a comfortable edge on Bird on the defensive end. Lets look at the postseason numbers...

'86 Bird (2.6 TO per game)
1st round- 28/8/8, 1.7 spg, 1.3 bpg, 53 FG%, 40 3P%, 83 FT%,
semifinals- 27/10/7, 1.8 spg, 53 FG%, 33 3P%, 96 FT%
conference finals- 25/10/8, 1.8 spg, 55 FG%, 50 3P%, 95 FT%
finals- 24/10/10, 2.7 spg, 48 FG%, 35 3P%, 94 FT%

'12 LeBron (3.5 TO per game)
1st round- 28/6/6, 2.2 spg, 48 FG%, 35 3P%, 81 FT%
semifinals- 30/11/6, 2.7 spg, 50 FG%, 17 3P%, 73 FT%
conference finals- 34/11/4, 1.1 spg, 1.3 bpg, 53 FG%, 29 ft%, 65 FT%
finals- 29/10/7, 1.6 spg, 47 FG%, 19 3P%, 83 FT%

It seems to me that LeBron has the edge on Bird in terms of scoring and defense, while Bird has him beat on offensive efficiency (Bird committed less turnovers), passing & shooting. I think the fact that Bird put up similar stats to LeBron despite being less ball-dominant is more impressive to me. Bird easily could of averaged 30+ points in that playoff run, but he didn't have to because he had McHale who was an offensive machine (25 PPG on 58% shooting), 5 Boston players averaged 15+ PPG during the '86 postseason, they obviously had more offensive weapons than Miami. Miami needed LeBron to score 30 points on some nights in order to win.

Because of the fact that Bird was the best player & leader of in my opinion the greatest team in NBA history, I'm gonna have to vote for him. Bird was the reason why the Celtics ball-movement was probably the best in NBA History.

1986 Larry Bird.

[scandisk_]

http://www.exgeeinteractive.com/dump/kobe-2009.jpg

:bowdown:

09 Kobe :rockon:

[Notitlesince73]

I just joined so i don't know if i'm allowed to vote, but i'd go with 83 moses

[magnax1]

86 Bird.

[I LUV KOBE]

I'm tired of voting.. Too many people here just like to look at stats but never really watch the game.. Kobe 2009 should already been in the top 10 easily..

[Deuce Bigalow]

I'm tired of voting.. Too many people here just like to look at stats but never really watch the game.. Kobe 2009 should already been in the top 10 easily..
09 Kobe was great, but so were the others. No big deal.
You going with 09 Bean?

[I LUV KOBE]

09 Kobe was great, but so were the others. No big deal.
You going with 09 Bean?
yup vote 2009 Kobe.. eventhough I know that he will not going to win here coz of many Lebrontard voting here.. :(

[fpliii]

09 Kobe

West first round: 27.4/5.0/5.6/2.4/0.4 on 57.0 TS% against the Jazz (4-1 win) #10 defense

West semis: 27.4/5.0/3.7/2.0/1.3 on 53.5 TS% against the Rockets (4-3 win) #4 defense

WCF: 34.0/5.8/5.8/0.8/0.5 on 62.7 TS% against the Nuggets (4-2 win) #8 defense

NBA Finals: 32.4/5.6/7.4/1.4/1.4 on 52.5 TS% against the Magic (4-1 win) #1 defense

seriously...has anyone else in recent memory done this much damage to great defenses? hell, have any of the other Finals MVPs even FACED four top 10 defenses in their respective runs?

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[1987_Lakers]

LeBron wasn't the only player to close the Finals with a triple double.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3i9gt3UE0Q

[I LUV KOBE]

09 Kobe

West first round: 27.4/5.0/5.6/2.4/0.4 on 57.0 TS% against the Jazz (4-1 win) #10 defense

West semis: 27.4/5.0/3.7/2.0/1.3 on 53.5 TS% against the Rockets (4-3 win) #4 defense

WCF: 34.0/5.8/5.8/0.8/0.5 on 62.7 TS% against the Nuggets (4-2 win) #8 defense

NBA Finals: 32.4/5.6/7.4/1.4/1.4 on 52.5 TS% against the Magic (4-1 win) #1 defense

seriously...has anyone else in recent memory done this much damage to great defenses? hell, have any of the other Finals MVPs even FACED four top 10 defenses in their respective runs?

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
^this.. Is not all about the stats but if you watch the game you know Kobe's run is one of the best.. Easily top ten.. :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Deuce Bigalow]

09 Kobe

West first round: 27.4/5.0/5.6/2.4/0.4 on 57.0 TS% against the Jazz (4-1 win) #10 defense

West semis: 27.4/5.0/3.7/2.0/1.3 on 53.5 TS% against the Rockets (4-3 win) #4 defense

WCF: 34.0/5.8/5.8/0.8/0.5 on 62.7 TS% against the Nuggets (4-2 win) #8 defense

NBA Finals: 32.4/5.6/7.4/1.4/1.4 on 52.5 TS% against the Magic (4-1 win) #1 defense

seriously...has anyone else in recent memory done this much damage to great defenses? hell, have any of the other Finals MVPs even FACED four top 10 defenses in their respective runs?

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
DA GAWD :bowdown: :bowdown:

The Kobe face http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpkYF0A6hg4

[28renyoy]

09 Kobe no question

[fpliii]

86 Bird no question

it's close...I'd like to say 86 Bird, but he faced some shaft D's compared to Kobe

East first round: 28.3/8.0/8.0/1.7/1.3 on 64.2 TS% against the Bulls (3-0 win) #23 defense

East semis: 27.2/9.6/7.0/1.8/0.8 on 59.9 TS% against the Hawks (4-1 win) #6 defense

ECF: 25.3/9.5/8.0/1.8/0.3 on 67.1 TS% against the Bucks (4-0 win) #2 defense

NBA Finals: 24.0/9.7/9.5/2.7/0.3 on 57.8 TS% against the Rockets (4-2 win) #14 defense

great no doubt and I'm voting for him @11 but Kobe did damage against 4 top 10 defenses

[fpliii]

DA GAWD :bowdown: :bowdown:

The Kobe face http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpkYF0A6hg4

that ish cray

should be outlawed :cheers:

[1987_Lakers]

it's close...I'd like to say 86 Bird, but he faced some shaft D's compared to Kobe

East first round: 28.3/8.0/8.0/1.7/1.3 on 64.2 TS% against the Bulls (3-0 win) #23 defense

East semis: 27.2/9.6/7.0/1.8/0.8 on 59.9 TS% against the Hawks (4-1 win) #19 defense

ECF: 25.3/9.5/8.0/1.8/0.3 on 67.1 TS% against the Bucks (4-0 win) #2 defense

NBA Finals: 24.0/9.7/9.5/2.7/0.3 on 57.8 TS% against the Rockets (4-2 win) #14 defense

great no doubt and I'm voting for him @11 but Kobe did damage against 4 top 10 defenses

Atlanta had the #6 defense and Houston had a very good defender Rodney McCray guarding Bird.

[fpliii]

Atlanta had the #6 defense and Houston had a very good defender Rodney McCray guarding Bird.

thanks, fixed it (I was looking at attendance instead of DRtg for Atlanta on the BBR team page)

I'm not trying to slight him really, I think he was amazing that year, just have Kobe ahead

[chazzy]

86 Bird again

[EnoughSaid]

IMO Wade's 06 run is better than Kobe's 09 run. More efficient, more clutch etc...

[LEFT4DEAD]

Last round Lebron got about 30+ votes and was 20+ votes ahead of third, and now he will not get even 10 votes. This threads are all about finding the new playoff run to put it ahead of Lebron's, even though clearly undeservedly.

So message for all the posters who wanted to vote for Lebron: DONT DO IT!
Lets just satisfy Kobe fans' wishes. Last 2 years were hard for them, watching Lebron going into the straight finals, and winning this year in big fashion, and it will repeat next 3 years at least. They are simply desperate right now.

IM VOTING FOR 09' KOBE! :lol

[BlackVVaves]

Magic has to have #10 in the bag.

1987, averaged 22, 8, and 12 in the Playoffs, and more impressively, 26, 8, and 13 in the Finals against none other than his rival and nemesis, Larry Bird and the Celtics. Shot 55% from the field as a POINT GUARD in that Finals.

Game winning baby-sky-hook-shot in Game 4, a game that, if the Lakers lost, would have sent them back to Boston for Game 5 tied, and with homecourt advantage for the remainder of the series.

After the series, Bird proclaimed Magic the best he'd ever seen play basketball, ever.

If Magic isn't #10, something is wrong with ISH.

The ONLY reason Magic isn't #9 ahead of Bird is, he had much more help that year than Bird in 84. Worthy was beginning to dominate, and Kareem was still dropping 30 points in the Finals. Bird's supporting class had not yet grown into HoFers in 84. That is the only reason I can give him the nod over Magic.

:rockon: [1987 Magic]

[Flea]

Nowitzki in 2011...


He was a difference maker. Without him, Dallas would have been eliminated in first round, or second at best. He was so clutch, that the opposing team needed 20+ point lead in 4th quarter to win the game... and sometimes, even that wasnt enough.

[TheeBeast]

09 Kobe

West first round: 27.4/5.0/5.6/2.4/0.4 on 57.0 TS% against the Jazz (4-1 win) #10 defense

West semis: 27.4/5.0/3.7/2.0/1.3 on 53.5 TS% against the Rockets (4-3 win) #4 defense

WCF: 34.0/5.8/5.8/0.8/0.5 on 62.7 TS% against the Nuggets (4-2 win) #8 defense

NBA Finals: 32.4/5.6/7.4/1.4/1.4 on 52.5 TS% against the Magic (4-1 win) #1 defense

seriously...has anyone else in recent memory done this much damage to great defenses? hell, have any of the other Finals MVPs even FACED four top 10 defenses in their respective runs?

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Kobe had 5 rings. Out of those 5, this was his best run.

09 Kobe has my vote

[blablabla]

09bean

[Kblaze8855]

Having watched all but I think 8 or 9 televised playoff games since the mid 80s....I really dont see how Kobe was even getting votes this early.

Hes on a higher level in general than some people who have had better finals runs but still....ive never been left thinking "That guy is just dominant as hell" watching him win a title. Hes never had one of those runs.

As I said...hes arguably as good as or better than some people who have. But fact remains...Kobe has never really had to play his best to win a ring. Especially in the finals.

Kobe has never had a finals that just stands out in my memory as a great series by the standards of people on his level. Hes had some great conference finals and he ate the suns up more than once. But on the biggest stage? His shot so often seems to be off. They won in 09 but in the last 3 games he went 11/25, 11/31, and 10/23 and its not like the Magic had any outstanding guards he needed to shut down.

And im not saying he somehow chokes in the finals or anything. I dont think Kobe really lets the situaiton get to him. But for whatever reason....he never has that "Ok...this is why hes a big deal" finals.

You could argue that with 5 rings he has not had to have one. But whatever the reason....hes never left me in awe after the finals. Hes never had to do what Wade did to win in 06 and it doesnt seem anyone even cares about that.

He might be better than Wade...hes never really played better on that stage than Wade did. he might be better than Dirk...hes never really been more dominant than Dirk was in the west playoffs and both have had worse finals than they played on the way to them.

Kobe has never played better than Shaq in the 02 playoffs either. Shaq would go have games in the finals that makes you feel like an idiot for even questioning if the other team could win a game. Shaq played spirit crushing "Do we even need to play game 4?" basketball in the finals.

Kobe has played on an all time elite level plenty of times. Just so happens it isnt usually on the stage people are gonna remember.

[Rysio]

biggest robbery in ish history if 09 kobe aint in the top 10.

[Sakkreth]

LeBron...

[Rnbizzle]

I'm done with this.

[Vienceslav]

It

[I LUV KOBE]

biggest robbery in ish history if 09 kobe aint in the top 10.
^this

[creepingdeath]

2011 Dirk

[PickernRoller]

So Most of the Jordans, Shaqs, and Hakeens are out + the Ducan....

Gotta go with 09 JellyBean.

[Punpun]

09 Kobe.

[Rekindled]

86 bird

[Heavincent]

I'm gonna roll with 09 Kobe. Just for shits and giggles.

[pauk]

Lebron doesnt deserve to be ranked under LESSER playoff runs due to the actions of Lebron haters voting against him for the "shits and giggles and to piss Pauk of"... it has turned into a Lebron vs Lebron haters thread....

I am gona try one last time then i can not take this thread seriously, sorry Deuce, it was a great idea tho, maybe we should keep Lebron out of this completely to keep those kids happy...

Last try: 2012 LEBRON....

[RRR3]

Shouldn't a thread like this at least be taken seriously? Kind of lame to make this just to piss Pauk off. :rolleyes:
Oh and LeBron 2012. I at least was around for Kobe 2009 run. **** out here at that being better than LBJ 2012 :facepalm
@ Pauk,
Calm down you're just going to make them keep trolling you. LBJ might have actually been on the list by now if you hadn't got so mad (sorry but it's true)

[LikeABosh]

All the Lebron haters clearly can't handle this. They are just voting for whoever has the best chance of beating Lebron. Last round Lebron got way more votes than Kobe 09' and now everyone is voting Kobe 09'. It is clear that everyones agenda is to just boycott Lebron. These ranking have become a joke

[Heavincent]

Lebron doesnt deserve to be ranked under LESSER playoff runs due to the actions of Lebron haters voting against him for the "shits and giggles"... it has turned into a Lebron vs Lebron haters thread....

I am gona try one last time then i can not take this thread seriously, sorry Deuce, it was a great idea tho, maybe we should keep Lebron out of this completely to keep those kids happy...

Last try: 2012 LEBRON

:roll:

[pauk]

:roll:

Whats funny? Am i lying? Try me.... Maybe if you pulled Kobes genital of your scrotum you would be able to take this thread seriously... this was a great idea by Deuce, it shouldnt be destroyed by you...

[Heavincent]

Whats funny? Am i lying? Try me....

:roll:

[RRR3]

Whats funny? Am i lying? Try me....
Calm down, dude. It doesn't change LBJ's success if some dumb ranking on the interwebz is against him :oldlol:
That said, this poll is just pathetic at this point

[PickernRoller]

Pauk and RRR3

http://i46.tinypic.com/2zsqkj7.gifhttp://i50.tinypic.com/22cc51.jpg

[Segatti]

71 Kareem

[RRR3]

Clever

[Segatti]

Lebron doesnt deserve to be ranked under LESSER playoff runs due to the actions of Lebron haters voting against him for the "shits and giggles and to piss Pauk of"... it has turned into a Lebron vs Lebron haters thread....

I am gona try one last time then i can not take this thread seriously, sorry Deuce, it was a great idea tho, maybe we should keep Lebron out of this completely to keep those kids happy...

Last try: 2012 LEBRON....

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-BrVpklR1-MY/TrPkS7LEwyI/AAAAAAAAAvU/JNS3yfy2EaE/s1600/tumblr_lj582uYDTj1qga4wf.jpg

[pauk]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-BrVpklR1-MY/TrPkS7LEwyI/AAAAAAAAAvU/JNS3yfy2EaE/s1600/tumblr_lj582uYDTj1qga4wf.jpg

Describing a person when you actually are describing yourself is called "concealed self-projection" (in this case exposed self-projection) and its not healthy for you from a psychological point of view...

Its you who is immature enough to care about and do your best to vote against Lebron due to your loathing for him afterall (including in this case create alternate accounts to succeed with your deed)... am i right?

The only one who is bitter about this is you and this image projects yourself.... wipe those tears and keep jerking of to your hero "Segatti (https://www.google.se/search?num=10&hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&q=segatti&oq=segatti&gs_l=img.3..0i5j0i5i24l7.304.1284.0.2153.7.7.0.0.0 .0.84.428.7.7.0...0.0.OORvfogKK24&biw=1920&bih=934&sei=u2L0T-mIHazb4QSevY31Bg)".

[Odinn]

1984 Bird over 1986 Bird?:oldlol: :roll:

[Heavincent]

Lettuce reminisce over Kobe's 09 playoff run.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f42xjUtR39c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqX_zr9kzk0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ug-5iOVGHs0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aEOzjUr7IM&feature=related

:bowdown:

[Derrick]

Gotta go with LBJ

[Rysio]

Lettuce reminisce over Kobe's 09 playoff run.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f42xjUtR39c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqX_zr9kzk0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ug-5iOVGHs0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aEOzjUr7IM&feature=related

:bowdown:
close the thread op. :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[ShaqAttack3234]

'86 Bird, just like my last vote.

He was playing flawless basketball. Averaging 26/9/8 on 52/41/93 shooting.

And more importantly, '86 Bird passes the eye test. The Atlanta series in particular sums up Bird's playing style and what makes him so great. He was playing in that unmistakable style, and it's Larry Legend at his best. One of my favorite series and Bird at his best like that is as enjoyable to watch as anyone. Not to mention Bird's 24/10/10 finals.

Thought about '77 Walton and '87 Magic as well.

[I LUV KOBE]

Lettuce reminisce over Kobe's 09 playoff run.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f42xjUtR39c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqX_zr9kzk0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ug-5iOVGHs0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aEOzjUr7IM&feature=related

:bowdown:
GAWDBe :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Poochymama]

09 Kobe

[DatAsh]

This is getting comical. I didn't believe the conspiriacy theories at first, but it's starting to look like there may be some unfortunate truth there. It's a shame, this thread really could have been something great, but I digress.

**** it,

09 Kobe

[Nash]

Chauncey Billups 2006

Might as well.

[LikeABosh]

Lebron

[Notitlesince73]

Voting for 09 kobe just to not vote for Lebron is absurd. We all were alive for both runs, you can't tell me that 09 Kobe's run was better. I would vote for 83 moses, 86 bird, 71 Kareem before i got to 2012 LEbron, but 09 Kobe? Really?

[ripthekik]

Pauk and RRR3

http://i46.tinypic.com/2zsqkj7.gifhttp://i50.tinypic.com/22cc51.jpg
:applause: Watching these 2 guys pat each other on the back is just too much :oldlol:

Come on.. it didn't went according to your opinion so you think there's a conspiracy against Lebron? How about people just recognize the truth? How about everyone just think Bird 84 was right for the top 9th spot?

Are you really going to sit here and tell me Lebron 12 was better than Bird 84 with no contest at all? Bird had a great run, you gotta accept that. The rest is up to people's opinion.

This ain't like Billups and Lebron. Of course we'll accept Lebron over Billup because he was just head and shoulder above and better. But Bird, he was not. What can you do :confusedshrug:

[PickernRoller]

Voting for 09 kobe just to not vote for Lebron is absurd. We all were alive for both runs, you can't tell me that 09 Kobe's run was better. I would vote for 83 moses, 86 bird, 71 Kareem before i got to 2012 LEbron, but 09 Kobe? Really?

Sock poppet created just 2 days ago to fuel a bandwagon his master account already tried in the previous pages, adds Kareem, Moses to look legit, wash doubts........pre-kinder, let me know when you get to elementary......:facepalm

[pegasus]

Voting for 09 kobe just to not vote for Lebron is absurd. We all were alive for both runs, you can't tell me that 09 Kobe's run was better. I would vote for 83 moses, 86 bird, 71 Kareem before i got to 2012 LEbron, but 09 Kobe? Really?
Yes, I can, and I'm dead serious.

Both Kobe 09 and Dirk were better. My vote: Kobe 09.

[BallsOut]

Looks like all the people who are split on 86 Bird and 09 Kobe are going to end up allowing 12 Lebron to win. :facepalm

86 Bird or 09 Kobe. Pick one and stick with it dudes.

[Heavincent]

Voting for 09 kobe just to not vote for Lebron is absurd.

That's not why I voted for Kobe.

[Notitlesince73]

Sock poppet created just 2 days ago to fuel a bandwagon his master account already tried in the previous pages, adds Kareem, Moses to look legit, wash doubts........pre-kinder, let me know when you get to elementary......:facepalm

I voted for 83 Moses. The mods can check my IP if you don't believe me that i'm not that idiot Pauk. I've been waiting about a year to get my account activated, everytime they sent out the invite, i would forget to check my email in time. I'm not a bron stan. But while i never saw 83 Moses, 71 Kareem, i did see 09 Kobe and 12 Lebron, and you just can't make the claim that 09 Kobe > 12 Lebron. The stats don't back it up, the eye test doesn't back it up.

[Nash]

Looks like all the people who are split on 86 Bird and 09 Kobe are going to end up allowing 12 Lebron to win. :facepalm

86 Bird or 09 Kobe. Pick one and stick with it dudes.
So you don't care about actually voting for the best performance? Just no Lebron?

Wow, I knew this forum had some trolls, but this right here is just pathetic.

[OldSchoolBBall]

lmao @ anyone voting for '09 Kobe above the likes of '87 Magic, '86 Bird, '12 Lebron, '80 KAJ or '98 Jordan. Sad. :oldlol:

I think I'll go with '86 Bird here. The above four will be my next 4 votes in some order. Hard to choose among them.

[Odinn]

1971 Kareem, 1983 Moses, 1986 Bird, 1987 Magic, 2012 LeBron > 2009 Kobe

[Odinn]

lmao @ anyone voting for '09 Kobe above the likes of '87 Magic, '86 Bird, '12 Lebron, '80 KAJ or '98 Jordan. Sad. :oldlol:
Kareem's 1980 title run actually one of top 10 ever. But he wasn't 1980 FMVP. That's why he can't be voted for. Thread title says "by a FMVP". It's disgrace Kareem didn't get the FMVP in 1980...:facepalm

[OldSchoolBBall]

Kareem's 1980 title run actually one of top 10 ever. But he wasn't 1980 FMVP. That's why he can't be voted for. Thread title says "by a FMVP". It's disgrace Kareem didn't get the FMVP in 1980...:facepalm

Oh, that's right - I forgot that the criteria was FMVP. Just thought it was championship run. Still, my point stands.

[nnn123]

87 magic

[Freedom Kid7]

I did it before, and I'll do it again
86 Bird

[po3try]

Didnt Lebron win before? I thought he had the most votes. Anyways yea i will vote for 2012 Lebron again.

[IGotACoolStory]

1998 Mj

[AK47DR91]

1983 Moses Malone

[tmacattack33]

I'm voting for the "Anti Lebron" player.

I guess that is 86 Bird.

So 86 Bird is my vote.

[illmaticone]

'09 kobe.

[red1]

Chauncey Billups

[chazzy]

Lebron stans are either disrespectful to the past or just plain ignorant if they think it's a travesty that these 10 GREAT runs don't have a case over Lebron's. Seriously, look at the list and tell me what stands out.

[BallsOut]

I'm voting for the "Anti Lebron" player.

I guess that is 86 Bird.

So 86 Bird is my vote.

Recorded so you can't later change votes.

[pauk]

Lebron stans are either disrespectful to the past or just plain ignorant if they think it's a travesty that these 10 GREAT runs don't have a case over Lebron's. Seriously, look at the list and tell me what stands out.

Non Lebron stans are either disrepectful to the future or just plain ignorant if they think its a travesty that Lebron doesnt have a case whatsoever over at least 84 Bird or 86 Bird.... two can play that game...

All of those #8 runs have a very good case over Lebron, but 84 Bird or 86 Bird or any playoff run by a FMVP after that have weak cases in comparasant....

Like i said before:

1. Lebron was more impressive than Larry Bird in 84 Playoffs, he averaged 30/10/6 @ 50% FG, as somewhat evident of his stats rating (PER) that playoff run at an all-time high 30.3... which is the #3 highest PER of all these contestants playoff runs... on top of that he played MUCH better defense than Larry Bird ever did in his life (may i remind you is a very important facit of the game)... then he never had a bad game and always stepped up in historic fashion when his team needed him the most (45-15-5 Game 6 vs Celtics is one example)... which all in all hypothetically immediately should stop any debate about who performed better between 12 Lebron & 84 Bird....

2. Lebron had less productive teammates than Larry Bird in 84 Playoffs, he "carried" more than what Larry Bird "carried"... the facts to that statement go something like this:

This is what Lebrons & Birds supporting cast produced in 1984/2012 Playoffs:

Birds supporting cast.................Lebrons supporting cast.....
83.0 PPG............................................... 64.9 PPG
33.1 RPG............................................... 30.4 RPG
17.1 APG............................................... 11.7 APG
6.3 SPG............................................... ...5.4 SPG
4.2 BPG............................................... ...3.9 BPG

source (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/BOS/1984.html)

Celtics double-figure players (excluding Larry Bird) 1984 Playoffs stats:
Dennis Johnson - 17 / 4 / 4
Robert Parish - 15 / 11 / 2
Kevin McHale - 15 / 6 / 2
Gerald Henderson - 13 / 2 / 4
Cedric Maxwell - 12 / 5 / 2

Heat double-figure players (excluding Lebron James) 2012 Playoffs stats:
Dwyane Wade - 23 / 5 / 4
Chris Bosh - 14 / 8 / 1
Mario Chalmers - 11 / 4 / 4

3. Competition? Larry Bird had better competition in the Finals... Lebron had better competition in the 1st, 2nd round and ECF especially when considering what he had to work with around him (as seen above, where in ECF he even played without Bosh practically)....



What this means is that Lebron performed better than Bird while carrying a LESSER team.... so what is the debate here really? ZERO.... only Lebron pessimism... thats all it is...

Larry Bird has a case but Lebron James case is much stronger....

...and go to hell if you think i disrespect Larry Bird, he is my 2nd favorite player of all time behind Reggie Miller, i have over 150 vcr/dvd/xvid/mpg/divx etc. games of him, many from that 84 Playoff run.... Bird did NOT have a better playoff run than 12 Lebron, close, but not better...




PS: Deuce, scratch my vote... or wait, i vote for the popular anti-Lebron votes right now, which in this case is what? 86 Bird or? Yea lets go with 86 Bird...

[chazzy]

Non Lebron stans are either disrepectful to the future
:biggums:

[Deuce Bigalow]

Didnt Lebron win before? I thought he had the most votes. Anyways yea i will vote for 2012 Lebron again.
84 Bird won 37-31.

[BallsOut]

PS: Deuce, scratch my vote... or wait, i vote for the popular anti-Lebron votes right now, which in this case is what? 86 Bird or? Yea lets go with 86 Bird...

pauk's vote for 86 Bird has been recorded. May not be changed in the future.

[Deuce Bigalow]

This thread shook a lot of people it seems.

[fpliii]

This thread shook a lot of people it seems.

I don't see the problem :confusedshrug:

if they stick by their guy LeBron probably wins #10, since there's a fair split between 09 Kobe and 86 Bird

[DTreats]

09 Kobe shits on 12 LeBron.

Give me 09 Kobe

[Deuce Bigalow]

I don't see the problem :confusedshrug:

if they stick by their guy LeBron probably wins #10, since there's a fair split between 09 Kobe and 86 Bird
They're shaken. Emotionally disturbed over last night. It was like Game 2 of the 2011 Finals all over again, a big lead destroyed in minutes and their boy didn't win.

[Derrick]

They're shaken. Emotionally disturbed over last night. It was like Game 2 of the 2011 Finals all over again, a big lead destroyed in minutes and their boy didn't win.
Is that what happeneD? I coulda sword lbj won last night. :lol

[pauk]

09 Kobe shits on 12 LeBron.

Give me 09 Kobe

Lebron performed better on both ends of the floor, had better competition AND his supporting cast was less productive....

The only one Kobe shits on here is on himself...

[Redoks]

This is like trying to argue to creationists. Why do you guys spend your energy writting huge posts? They won't listen to reason anyway. Let them realize that lebron just won a ring:lebronamazed:.

[RRR3]

So now 2009 Kobe is better than 2002 Shaq:lol

[Duncan21formvp]

Kareem 1971

[Deuce Bigalow]

Chauncey Billups 2006

Might as well.

Chauncey Billups
Butthurt?

[inclinerator]

mikan '33

[RRR3]

Joe Fulks 1947 :bowdown:

[Deuce Bigalow]

mikan '33
lol

[TerranOP]

lbj '12

[pauk]

So now 2009 Kobe is better than 12 Lebron, 2002 Shaq, 86 Bird, 87 Magic, 03 Shaq, Jordan 97, Jordan 98, Jordan 96, 99 Duncan, 06 Wade, 11 Nowitzki, 71 Kareem, 05 Duncan, 83 Moses, 81-82 Magic, Rick Barry 75, Havlicek 74, Willis 70, West 69 :lol

fixed

[1987_Lakers]

This project has gone to hell.

[BlackVVaves]

So Pauk, you're just going to stuff you tail inbetween your p u s s y and run out the last thread hoping no one would notice your incompetence?

NOPE.




You know Pauk, I typically just ignore you and your posts. Mostly because you're rather insignificant to me, and I almost pity you; anyone that is forced to gargle Lebron's semen in their mouth and simultaneously use a keyboard most certaintly lives a poor quality life.

However, since you've managed to eclipse even your own standards of complete and utter idiocy and Lebron obsess, I'd love to slap you around a bit, if not for my own entertainment, before I hop on this plane in a couple of hours.

Also, to show all the little Lebron kiddie accounts in this thread (at least the ones that aren't puppet mastered by you) why it's not wise to follow a ****** down a yellow brick road.


This was your exact post earlier today:


Quote:
Originally Posted by pauk

" 1st Round - New York Knicks 2012 vs Washington Bullets 1984
(.546% team vs .424% team)

2nd Round - Indiana Pacers 2012 vs New York Knicks 1984
(.636% team vs .570% team)

Conference Finals - Boston Celtics 2012 vs Milwaukee Bucks 1984
(.590% team vs .609%)

Finals - Oklahoma City Thunder 2012 vs Los Angeles Lakers 1984
(.710% team vs .659% team)

The only place Bird might have faced better competition was in Finals, where he also had HCA unlike Lebron..... the other ones? No... also while you gloat over what player averaged best numbers in those opposing teams Bird faced you could also try compare that to what those Lebrons opposing teams best players averaged...."



For those of you at home, allow me to highlight Pauk's point of emphasis:



Quote:
Originally Posted by pauk

"2nd Round - Indiana Pacers 2012 vs New York Knicks 1984
(.636% team vs .570% team)

Conference Finals - Boston Celtics 2012 vs Milwaukee Bucks 1984
(.590% team vs .609%) "


He also said:

Quote:
Originally Posted by pauk

"The only place Bird might have faced better competition was in Finals, "


Implying that it still isn't a forgone conclusion that the 84 Lakers were better than the Thunder. Why? Why, because of their winning percentage of course!

Quote:
Originally Posted by pauk

"Finals - Oklahoma City Thunder 2012 vs Los Angeles Lakers 1984
(.710% team vs .659% team) "




So, Pauk, you piece of withered Lebron shit you, the winning percentage in a lockout shortened season is suffice enough to determine a team's superiority...that is he foundation of what you so shamelessly stepped to me with.


OK. Cool! :cheers:


So answer these questions for us, you sad, sad, excuse for a virtual lifeform.

Were the 2012 Pacers a better team than the 2010 Celtics?
Pacers - .636% team vs. Celtics - .610% team

Well?

Were the 2012 Thunder a better team than the 2001 Lakers?
Thunder - .710% team vs. Lakers - .683% team

What's that? Sorry, I don't speak flaming homo. Hold up, let me find that translation app.

Were the 1994 Nets a better team than the 2012 Knicks?
Nets - .549% team vs. Knicks - .546% team

Go ahead, tell me how much better Coleman and Kenny Anderson are than Melo and Amare.



Yea, shut the **** up. And hey, take Lebron's scrotum out your mouth next time you address me. I don't like pubic hair spewing on my vvaves, so not classy.


TRY WATCHING A BASKETBALL GAME SOMETIME, AND STOP JERKING OFF TO STATISTICS ALL DAY LONG. ONCE YOU GIVE YOUR HAND A REST, YOU'LL FIND THAT PLAYER'S ARE NOT ROBOTS, AND THAT THERE IS MORE THAN MERE NUMBERS THAT DEFINE A PLAYER, OR IN THIS CASE, TEAM.



Tell us again how much harder Lebron's competition was this year than Bird's competition in 1984.

wait.

Let me guess!! You're going to say Bird had more help from his teammates than Lebron did! Good thing I minored in mind-reading, let me help you out with that, courtesy of OldSchoolBBall:




As I said earlier in the thread with no response, here's the production using your precious "PER" for their next 5 highest mpg players in the playoffs:

'12 Heat:

22.0
19.7
13.2
12.0
10.6

'84 Celts:

16.3
15.6
14.5
13.3
12.9

Try again, kid. :oldlol: Just like how I dismantled your bullshit post in the other thread regarding MJ's 1998 team and Lebron's Heat and you tucked tail and ran like a beaten dog. :oldlol:



That's an average PER of 15.5 for the next 5 highest mpg players in the playoffs outside of Lebron on the Heat, and an average PER of 14.5 for the next 5 highest mpg players in the playoffs on Bird's Celtics, excluding Bird as well.

Now I'm going to go back to my regular, laid back disposition. Try not to disturb me with your ignorance again, I don't like clowning people, it takes too much energy.

[Segatti]

Describing a person when you actually are describing yourself is called "concealed self-projection" (in this case exposed self-projection) and its not healthy for you from a psychological point of view...

Its you who is immature enough to care about and do your best to vote against Lebron due to your loathing for him afterall (including in this case create alternate accounts to succeed with your deed)... am i right?

The only one who is bitter about this is you and this image projects yourself.... wipe those tears and keep jerking of to your hero "Segatti (https://www.google.se/search?num=10&hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&q=segatti&oq=segatti&gs_l=img.3..0i5j0i5i24l7.304.1284.0.2153.7.7.0.0.0 .0.84.428.7.7.0...0.0.OORvfogKK24&biw=1920&bih=934&sei=u2L0T-mIHazb4QSevY31Bg)".

I don't care about Kobe or Lebron, I just think it's pathetic a grown up guy crying because his favorite player is not getting voted in a internet forum and saying that everybody else is a "hater" just because they don't agree with you.

[BlackVVaves]

Bump. Where you at pauk, you can make threads trying to stir trouble but can't answer a couple questions? :oldlol:

[Doctor Rivers]

bird

[ripthekik]

Bump. Where you at pauk, you can make threads trying to stir trouble but can't answer a couple questions? :oldlol:
Told you he was gonna disappear. It's his go-to move. I stated this in the last thread :lol
Lebron fans: talk crap, when they get owned, time to run! Learned from their idol, Lebron Jymes.

[BallsOut]

09 kobe

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

15 votes for Kobe yet only ONE for #9. Meanwhile, Lebron had 30+.

Seems legit lol.

[ripthekik]

15 votes for Kobe yet only ONE for #9. Meanwhile, Lebron had 30+.

Seems legit lol.
Wonder where all the lebron fans went :confusedshrug:
Pauk still missing as well.

[pauk]

Wonder where all the lebron fans went :confusedshrug:
Pauk still missing as well.

Many other fans went aswell... It was a good idea of a thread and it went good while it lasted, but the agenda of the posters here (not all, but you know, those like you ripthedick) has been exposed by this thread later (especially thread #9).. Kuniva_Damighty the post above you gave another addition to that agenda / exposing...

I am not "missing".. i just think its useless to vote if the correct Player doesnt earn his rightful place due to the infestation of other posters (with probable multiple accounts) with an agenda / bias... and i think most posters and Lebron fans are wise enough to realise that... hence not wasting time with this...

[TheWINdyCity]

no way kobe is above bird...

86 Bird

[I LUV KOBE]

GAWDBe finally winning this time..:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[OldSchoolBBall]

Kobe's '09 getting votes over Bird's '86, Magic's '87, Lebron's '12, and Jordan's '98 is a DISGRACE, and shows the complete lack of knowledge and incredible bias of the "fans" on this board. Kobe's '09 isn't within a stone's throw of any of those.

[OldSchoolBBall]

I vote '86 Bird here.

[TheWINdyCity]

Kobe's '09 getting votes over Bird's '86, Magic's '87, Lebron's '12, and Jordan's '98 is a DISGRACE, and shows the complete lack of knowledge and incredible bias of the "fans" on this board. Kobe's '09 isn't within a stone's throw of any of those.


welcome to ish my friend....
the sad part is i have only posted 48 times and i know this fact all too well..

[cteach111]

15 votes for 2009 Kobe?

:biggums:

this project is losing its integrity

[The Rock Bottom]

09 Kobe.

[BlackVVaves]

Many other fans went aswell... It was a good idea of a thread and it went good while it lasted, but the agenda of the posters here (not all, but you know, those like you ripthedick) has been exposed by this thread later (especially thread #9).. Kuniva_Damighty the post above you gave another addition to that agenda / exposing...

I am not "missing".. i just think its useless to vote if the correct Player doesnt earn his rightful place due to the infestation of other posters (with probable multiple accounts) with an agenda / bias... and i think most posters and Lebron fans are wise enough to realise that... hence not wasting time with this...

Shut up Pauk and answer my questions.

Not that I ever respected you anyway, but the fact that you continue to dance around the information I presented you proves that you truly are incapable of being a competent poster.

[Rysio]

if mamba aint top 10 im done with these rigged as threads.

[OldSchoolBBall]

if mamba aint top 10 im done with these rigged as threads.

He's not even close to top 10. In no way, shape, or form does any of his playoff runs as FMVP compare to Magic's '87, Bird's '86, Jordan's '98, or Lebron's '12.

[pauk]

He's not even close to top 10. In no way, shape, or form does any of his playoff runs as FMVP compare to Magic's '87, Bird's '86, Jordan's '98, or Lebron's '12.

This... and i would add also:

Kareem's '71
Moses '83
Nowitzki '11
Shaq's '02
West's '69

[ripthekik]

This... and i would add also:

Kareem's '71
Moses '83
Nowitzki '11
Shaq's '02
West's '69
Why you dodging the other guy's questions?
Oh wait, you did this to me too, everytime I revealed your ass
pauk = puts it between his legs and run

[RRR3]

Why you dodging the other guy's questions?
Oh wait, you did this to me too, everytime I revealed your ass
pauk = puts it between his legs and run
Bladers too cowardly to post on his main account :roll:
Probably had a nervous breakdown when lbj won

[pauk]

Bladers too cowardly to post on his main account :roll:
Probably had a nervous breakdown when lbj won

Could be Phong to or NBAcarddotnet

[BuffaloBill]

2009 Kobe

[ripthekik]

Could be Phong to or NBAcarddotnet
the guy's waiting.
You could at least type a courtesy "I suck I'm sorry I'm stupid"
:oldlol:

[RRR3]

the guy's waiting.
You could at least type a courtesy "I suck I'm sorry I'm stupid"
:oldlol:
Bladers

[Punpun]

09 Kobe not getting it ? What a joke.

[Chief Keef]

09 Kobe

West first round: 27.4/5.0/5.6/2.4/0.4 on 57.0 TS% against the Jazz (4-1 win) #10 defense

West semis: 27.4/5.0/3.7/2.0/1.3 on 53.5 TS% against the Rockets (4-3 win) #4 defense

WCF: 34.0/5.8/5.8/0.8/0.5 on 62.7 TS% against the Nuggets (4-2 win) #8 defense

NBA Finals: 32.4/5.6/7.4/1.4/1.4 on 52.5 TS% against the Magic (4-1 win) #1 defense

seriously...has anyone else in recent memory done this much damage to great defenses? hell, have any of the other Finals MVPs even FACED four top 10 defenses in their respective runs?

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:


Oh wow. That's pretty impressive. I'm going with 09 Bean.

[ripthekik]

Bladers
I have no idea who that is, but not like I really care :confusedshrug:
I think the more interesting question is, among you, Lebron23, and Pauk, how many accounts do you have combined? :oldlol:
Or are you all just one?! the intelligence matches..
:biggums:

[RRR3]

I have no idea who that is, but not like I really care :confusedshrug:
I think the more interesting question is, among you, Lebron23, and Pauk, how many accounts do you have combined? :oldlol:
Or are you all just one?! the intelligence matches..
:biggums:
Bladers

[ripthekik]

Bladers
Seems like you're very obsessed with alternate accounts. I don't understand the fatuation though.. other then using them to vote for Lebron like you guys have :oldlol: , what use is it?:confusedshrug:
This is my account, I could give less a damn who you think I am.
Hello there Lebron23 btw:cheers:

[Duncan21formvp]

What was soo special about Kobe in 2009 in the playoffs? He played the most playoffs games and still didn't even have the highest win share in the playoffs and only had a 26.8 PER. Also his teammate was right with him in total win shares. Let's not forget in a game 7 as well he shot 33% FG and only scored 14 pts.

[Heavincent]

What was soo special about Kobe in 2009 in the playoffs? He played the most playoffs games and still didn't even have the highest win share in the playoffs and only had a 26.8 PER. Also his teammate was right with him in total win shares. Let's not forget in a game 7 as well he shot 33% FG and only scored 14 pts.

That might be meaningful if PER and win shares were actually useful and significant stats...but they aren't.

[RRR3]

Seems like you're very obsessed with alternate accounts. I don't understand the fatuation though.. other then using them to vote for Lebron like you guys have :oldlol: , what use is it?:confusedshrug:
This is my account, I could give less a damn who you think I am.
Hello there Lebron23 btw:cheers:
Fatuation roflmao. You're dumb as a rock :oldlol:

[TheMan]

2009 Kobe is leading in this forum when 91 Jordan beats all his stats:facepalm

That's what you call homerism.

[ripthekik]

Fatuation roflmao. You're dumb as a rock :oldlol:
I like the fact that the only things Lebron fantards attack me for is for my typos :roll: Yeah, I didn't type the "in".. but that's all you got on me?

Lebron fantards.. ahhhh the intelligence :oldlol:
hey, here's a participation ribbon, go sit down in the corner

[BuffaloBill]

2009 Kobe is leading in this forum when 91 Jordan beats all his stats:facepalm

That's what you call homerism.


91 Jordan is #2 in the top 10.



Learn 2 read? :biggums:

[RRR3]

I like the fact that the only things Lebron fantards attack me for is for my typos :roll: Yeah, I didn't type the "in".. but that's all you got on me?

Lebron fantards.. ahhhh the intelligence :oldlol:
hey, here's a participation ribbon, go sit down in the corner
Yup. You hella mad.








Next.

[ripthekik]

Yup. You hella mad.

Next.
http://www.matthaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/partrib.jpg
:applause:
RRR3, Good Job, Good Effort!

[TheMan]

91 Jordan is #2 in the top 10.



Learn 2 read? :biggums:
Well, I see Kobe has 15 votes in the bottom of the OP's post, leading all, or am I reading it wrong?

[RRR3]

http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/funny-gifs-have-ever-been-so-mad-that-you.gif
He Furious. :roll:

[BuffaloBill]

Well, I see Kobe has 15 votes in the bottom of the OP's post, leading all, or am I reading it wrong?


Well 91 Jordan already won, you can't vote for him anymore. Unless you're talking about 98 Jordan?

[ripthekik]

He Furious. :roll:
:applause:
Good Job, RRR3! You took your time to find a gif for me, that's very Good Effort! Good Job!

[RRR3]

http://gifs.gifbin.com/012012/1336500563_angry_man_karma.gif
:roll:

[ripthekik]

:roll:
Appreciate the love, can't believe you took your precious time to find another gif for me! This one is better than the other too! Good Job, RRR3! Good Effort! I like this one!


:roll: