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ripthekik
07-05-2012, 11:43 AM
Let's team up the best NBA player of the league
with another top 3 player that season
and add another star and see what we get :cheers:

Around 1990
Top 1= Michael Jordan
Top 3= Magic Johnson
Star = Patrick Ewing

Around 1995
Top 1= Hakeem Olajuwon
Top 3= David Robinson
Star = Grant Hill

Around 2000
Top 1= Shaquille O'neal
Top 3= Tim Duncan
Star = Kobe Bryant

Around 2005
Top 1= Tim Duncan
Top 3 = Kevin Garnett
Star = Tracy Mcgrady

I didn't really give a lot of thought about who was Top 1, Top 3, so no need for arguments there. Feel free to create your own, for any season!

Do you guys think most, if not all, of those team will win rings if they were together for a few seasons?

EnoughSaid
07-05-2012, 11:47 AM
:facepalm Did all of those guys have to spent 7 seasons for a team that wasn't trying to acquire good players around their stars? :facepalm The Cavaliers made it extremely hard for LeBron to stay there. All the players you posted nearly always were on contenders for most of their careers.

Nash
07-05-2012, 11:50 AM
Yo ripthekik, how does it feel that people are talking about Lebron's greatness after his first championship instead of talking about him joining up with Wade and Bosh?

Admit it, you be burnin'.

AK47DR91
07-05-2012, 11:51 AM
All of those would win a ring. :lol
Duncan won in 2005 with T-Mac or Shaq. Shaq won in 2000 without Duncan. Hakeem won in 1995 without Robinson or Hill.

Put up players from the same two-three seasons that didn't win a title would be a lot better.

Example:
2002- #1a McGrady / #1b Webber / third guy Kidd
How would they do against the 2002 Western teams or Eastern? Or in the Finals as ECF champs going against the Lakers.

1996- #1 Shaq / #2 Payton / #3 Glen Rice
How would that team against the Bulls?

ripthekik
07-05-2012, 11:52 AM
:facepalm Did all of those guys have to spent 7 seasons for a team that wasn't trying to acquire good players around their stars? :facepalm The Cavaliers made it extremely hard for LeBron to stay there. All the players you posted nearly always were on contenders for most of their careers.
It's got nothing about how many years spend where or where the city is, it's how crazy a team looks when2 of the top 3 nba players play together with another star!

Just chill! Make some teams, think about how crazy it would be, and relax!:cheers:

chips93
07-05-2012, 11:53 AM
is op really comparing chris bosh to patrick ewing, grant hill, tracy mcgrady, and young kobe!?

http://gifmashup.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Mitt-Romney-Laughing.gif

AK47DR91
07-05-2012, 11:54 AM
LOL....I was the only LeBron supporter who didn't get defensive over the thread.

:oldlol:

Cali Syndicate
07-05-2012, 11:54 AM
is op really comparing chris bosh to patrick ewing, grant hill, tracy mcgrady, and young kobe!?

http://gifmashup.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Mitt-Romney-Laughing.gif

This.

ripthekik
07-05-2012, 11:56 AM
is op really comparing chris bosh to patrick ewing, grant hill, tracy mcgrady, and young kobe!?

Well, I was just trying to add another all-star into the team that played a different position. Those guys were stars during those years, and they weren't top 3. Feel free to disagree with my list, but do make your own teams too!

I've always wanted to see what Iverson at his prime would look like with a good team=

Around 2001
Top 1= Iverson
Top 3= Shaquille O'neal
Star = Ray Allen

Fudge
07-05-2012, 11:58 AM
Insecure? :roll: Heat fans overthink too much.

Lebron23
07-05-2012, 11:58 AM
Op is a phagot.

AK47DR91
07-05-2012, 12:00 PM
Well, I was just trying to add another all-star into the team that played a different position. Those guys were stars during those years, and they weren't top 3. Feel free to disagree with my list, but do make your own teams too!

I've always wanted to see what Iverson at his prime would look like with a good team=

Around 2001
Top 1= Iverson
Top 3= Shaquille O'neal
Star = Ray Allen
Replace Shaq with Webber or Sheed as we all already know prime Shaq could take anybody to a championship.

Iverson/Sheed/Allen...would that be a championship trio?
AI/Webber/Allen....what about this trio?

When you put Prime Shaq or Prime Jordan....is there even question to if those teams would fail?

ripthekik
07-05-2012, 12:00 PM
Op is a phagot.
Come on man, what'd I do to you? :lol
Just trying to spark some conversion here.
It's really interesting to imagine if these teams ever form.. :eek:

Guys, feel free to add your own players. I picked those players off the top of my head, and of course people will have their own opinions.
But Top 1 and 3 should not be so hard :cheers:

ripthekik
07-05-2012, 12:03 PM
Iverson/Sheed/Allen...would that be a championship trio?
AI/Webber/Allen....what about this trio?

Well I'm actually hesitant because it's hard to see how AI would fit with the other stars (no diss to him, I love him, but it's just his game)
So I think for AI, we'd have to pick more carefully the players that he can fit with. Those teams definitely look great, but I wouldn't dare say they are sure-fire champions like the other teams

AK47DR91
07-05-2012, 12:04 PM
#1 Payton #2 Ewing #3 Mullin on a team in he 90's....championship against Jordan's Bulls? :confusedshrug:

Redoks
07-05-2012, 12:13 PM
http://lh5.ggpht.com/carlos57775/SCobc6EL_hI/AAAAAAAABys/RG0y66Z3ZDY/s288/Don't%20feed%20the%20troll.jpg

The Iron Fist
07-05-2012, 12:13 PM
Replace Shaq with Webber or Sheed as we all already know prime Shaq could take anybody to a championship.

Iverson/Sheed/Allen...would that be a championship trio?
AI/Webber/Allen....what about this trio?

When you put Prime Shaq or Prime Jordan....is there even question to if those teams would fail?
So where are Shaqs rings prior to 2000?_

Poetry
07-05-2012, 12:15 PM
is op really comparing chris bosh to patrick ewing, grant hill, tracy mcgrady, and young kobe!?

I think he's looking at it from a numbers stand point. Bosh averaged 24 and 11 before joining the Heat. Ewing averaged 24 and 11 in 91-92.

But clearly they're on different planets. The bigs are just weaker in this era.

If you listed all of today's top big men, Bosh is near the top. But he doesn't compare to Ewing on the all-time list.

Young Larry Johnson is probably a better fit, but even then i'd take Larry Johnson over Bosh.

Or actually maybe Cliff Robinson is a closer fit.

Raz
07-05-2012, 12:23 PM
Around 1990
Star = Patrick Ewing

Around 1995
Star = Grant Hill

Around 2000
Star = Kobe Bryant

Around 2005
Star = Tracy Mcgrady


You're giving Chris Bosh far too much credit.
I have picked mine based on MVP votes

1989-90
MVP: Magic Johnson
5th: Patrick Ewing
All-star: Tom Chambers

1994-95
MVP: David Robinson
5th: Hakeem Olajuwon
All-star: Mitch Richmond

1999-00
MVP: Shaquille O'Neal
5th: Tim Duncan
All-star: Michael Finley

2004-05
MVP: Steve Nash
5th: Tim Duncan (Iverson doesn't count)
All-star: Paul Pierce

ripthekik
07-05-2012, 12:35 PM
You're giving Chris Bosh far too much credit.
I have picked mine based on MVP votes

1989-90
MVP: Magic Johnson
5th: Patrick Ewing
All-star: Tom Chambers

1994-95
MVP: David Robinson
5th: Hakeem Olajuwon
All-star: Mitch Richmond

1999-00
MVP: Shaquille O'Neal
5th: Tim Duncan
All-star: Michael Finley

2004-05
MVP: Steve Nash
5th: Tim Duncan (Iverson doesn't count)
All-star: Paul Pierce
:eek: A lot of these teams look straight dominant.
Nash passing to Pierce and Duncan?

Well Bosh did lead his own team for 7 seasons, multiple times all-star.
Maybe Amare this season would be comparable?

Let's try this current season then

Top 1: Lebron James
Top 3: Kevin Durant
Star: Amare Stoudamire
:eek:

gasolina
07-05-2012, 12:36 PM
Some very sensitive fans out there

I LUV KOBE
07-05-2012, 12:38 PM
Compared to this era the BIG 3 in Miami is comparable to 1991 Jordan, Magic and Ewing.. But doesnt mean they're equal players.. Jordan, Magic and Ewing are far superior but if we compared by era, they are the equivalent..

ShaqAttack3234
07-05-2012, 12:43 PM
Well, I was just trying to add another all-star into the team that played a different position. Those guys were stars during those years, and they weren't top 3. Feel free to disagree with my list, but do make your own teams too!

I've always wanted to see what Iverson at his prime would look like with a good team=

Around 2001
Top 1= Iverson
Top 3= Shaquille O'neal
Star = Ray Allen

:oldlol: at Iverson being better than Shaq in '01. the top 3 were Shaq, Duncan and Kobe.



So where are Shaqs rings prior to 2000?_

The "Shaq could win with anyone" thing is stupid. Nobody can win with anyone. But Shaq also happened to take his game to another level in 2000. And it's funny but his most talented teams came prior to '00. His '00 team was his least talented from '95-'06. '98 was the most talented.

ripthekik
07-05-2012, 01:01 PM
:oldlol: at Iverson being better than Shaq in '01. the top 3 were Shaq, Duncan and Kobe.
.
Why you mad? 2001 Was the year AI took his team to the finals weren't it. He's definitely be top 3 in my book. MVP that year as well.

Again, this is very subjective, feel free to make your own teams if you aren't satisfied with others. Why hate? :confusedshrug:


Some very sensitive fans out there
:oldlol:

gasolina
07-05-2012, 01:08 PM
Let's be real here - we all know what we're talking about and the best comparison would be 1991-92

Jordan
Drexler
Ewing (I was actually surprised by this)

Right about the same age. Almost same records on their teams from the past year.

Of course, the talent level was so different. A lot of Lebronytes like to compare him to Jordan so let's leave it like that. Drexler might be a good comparison for Wade too. Dominant, yet slightly older. A lot of people forget that the Heat won close to 50 games with just Wade, JO's corpse, and Beasley's smoking ass.

Ewing... I don't know, was the East really that good that in 1990 that he couldn't get them to a better record? I dunno I was 10. Are we severely underrating Bosh that he can't take it to the next level like Ewing did. Are we forgetting that Bosh's best Raptor team had the likes of Calderon, Anthony Parker, and Jorge Garbajosa?

If not Ewing, maybe Chris Mullin? IDK about Tom Chambers... too old then

RRR3
07-05-2012, 01:10 PM
Let's be real here - we all know what we're talking about and the best comparison would be 1991-92

Jordan
Drexler
Ewing (I was actually surprised by this)

Right about the same age. Almost same records on their teams from the past year.

Of course, the talent level was so different. A lot of Lebronytes like to compare him to Jordan so let's leave it like that. Drexler might be a good comparison for Wade too. Dominant, yet slightly older. A lot of people forget that the Heat won close to 50 games with just Wade, JO's corpse, and Beasley's smoking ass.

Ewing... I don't know, was the East really that good that in 1990 that he couldn't get them to a better record? I dunno I was 10. Are we severely underrating Bosh that he can't take it to the next level like Ewing did. Are we forgetting that Bosh's best Raptor team had the likes of Calderon, Anthony Parker, and Jorge Garbajosa?
Lol wrong account reigny

ShaqAttack3234
07-05-2012, 01:39 PM
Why you mad? 2001 Was the year AI took his team to the finals weren't it.

"Why you mad?" Showing your age, just like when you called Iverson the best player in '01. I'm not mad, I actually thought that post was funny.

Yeah, Iverson took his team to the finals in a weak East. Shaq won the finals, and went 15-1 in the playoffs. Averaged 33/16/5/3, 57 FG% vs DPOY Dikembe Mutombo and a top 5 defensive team.

CelticBaller
07-05-2012, 01:40 PM
:facepalm Did all of those guys have to spent 7 seasons for a team that wasn't trying to acquire good players around their stars? :facepalm The Cavaliers made it extremely hard for LeBron to stay there. All the players you posted nearly always were on contenders for most of their careers.
and the cavaliers weren't? :oldlol:

ripthekik
07-05-2012, 01:44 PM
"Why you mad?" Showing your age, just like when you called Iverson the best player in '01. I'm not mad, I actually thought that post was funny.

Yeah, Iverson took his team to the finals in a weak East. Shaq won the finals, and went 15-1 in the playoffs. Averaged 33/16/5/3, 57 FG% vs DPOY Dikembe Mutombo and a top 5 defensive team.
And if you check my first post, I already put Shaq on top. If you read the post where I put Iverson as #1, it says I just wanted to see how Iverson would look like in a good team. Is this so hard to comprehend for you?
Especially when I mentioned that players don't really matter in my first post as well.

Are you so butt-hurt when Shaq's not mentioned? Come on man.:facepalm

ripthekik
07-05-2012, 07:53 PM
Seems like anytime we do a pairing of such a team, we get an easy and obvious ring.. oh well :confusedshrug:

dont know why people so impress by this bron guy then :oldlol:

LelBron
07-05-2012, 08:05 PM
the BIG 3 in Miami is comparable to 1991 Jordan, Magic and Ewing

http://i.imgur.com/Ckwu6.jpg

WockaVodka
07-05-2012, 08:11 PM
The only time Wade was a top 2 player was in 2006. Every other season, he was either 3rd or worse.

ripthekik
07-05-2012, 08:20 PM
The only time Wade was a top 2 player was in 2006. Every other season, he was either 3rd or worse.
Top 3 counts. I didn't mean Top 1 and 2 of the league, just Top 1 and a Top 2 or 3 player would work.

He was definitely top 3 in 2009 as well.

pauk
07-05-2012, 08:25 PM
http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac188/Ronnita/Gifs/Fandom/tumblr_lk76paO9iN1qh1u66.jpg

pauk
07-05-2012, 08:27 PM
Compared to this era the BIG 3 in Miami is comparable to 1991 Jordan, Magic and Ewing.. But doesnt mean they're equal players.. Jordan, Magic and Ewing are far superior but if we compared by era, they are the equivalent..

Thats a hellava compliment fella.... :roll:

Wade right now, the way he has been playing/producing is more comparable to a 30 year old Clyde Drexler at best...

Bosh right now, the way he has been playing/producing is more comparable to a prime Horace Grant (minus the defense) or a Brad Daugherty at best....

Lebron is the only guy in the league with good enough individual talent/skill to deserve a comparasant to Jordan/Magic...

ripthekik
07-05-2012, 08:35 PM
Hey pauk,
just wanted to bring something to your attention :cheers:


So in one week, Pauk has stated:

- The 2012 Pacers were better than the 1984 Bernard King-led NY Knicks.

- The 2012 Celtics were better than the #2 seed, Don Nelson
coached, only team to sweep Bird in the playoffs, 1984 Milkwaukee Bucks.

- The 2012 Thunder were better than the Showtime, Magic and Kareem-led, 1984 Lakers.

- The current roster of:

Bynum/Jordan Hill
Gasol/McRoberts
Artest/Devin Ebanks
Kobe/Goudelock
Nash/Steve Blake

is the "most stacked team" of all time. :roll:


Please Pauk, please continue to bless us with your basketball wisdom :roll:

You are officially the dumbest person I've ever met. And I've never even met you :oldlol:

All just to prop Lebron up upon the All Time list, and elevate his status in the court of public opinion. And to simultaneously undermine Kobe's past and future status as an Top 10 Player of All Time, because you can't stand that the majority of America, and likely the WORLD, views Kobe as the current bar for greatness, with 5 rings and 7 Finals appearances.

If I could slap you, I probably wouldn't. I hear ignorance is a disease, and I'd hate to get contaminated by your consistent idiocy. I'll just sit here and laugh instead :roll:

Are you telling me your opinion still counts for anything?
:biggums:

Wavy Crockett
07-05-2012, 08:37 PM
Compared to this era the BIG 3 in Miami is comparable to 1991 Jordan, Magic and Ewing..

:durantunimpressed:

Simple Jack
07-05-2012, 08:37 PM
Hey pauk,
just wanted to bring something to your attention :cheers:



Are you telling me your opinion still counts for anything?
:biggums:

Like a person with schizophrenia calling someone else paranoid. Or a retard, if you will...calling a fellow retard, retarded.

What part of your brain makes it ok for you to post 99% of the shit you do, then talk about other people's opinions being taken seriously? I don't get it. Probably never will.

ripthekik
07-05-2012, 08:40 PM
Like a person with schizophrenia calling someone else paranoid. Or a retard, if you will...calling a fellow retard, retarded.

What part of your brain makes it ok for you to post 99% of the shit you do, then talk about other people's opinions being taken seriously? I don't get it. Probably never will.
And you are? Another one of the lebron fans? :oldlol:
Line up buddy, I don't have time for ya.

Simple Jack
07-05-2012, 08:43 PM
And you are? Another one of the lebron fans? :oldlol:
Line up buddy, I don't have time for ya.

A bystander who's impressed with your ability to troll.

ripthekik
07-06-2012, 02:49 AM
Just saw the other thread:
The Best Players in the NBA: A Year-by-Year Analysis
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=102569

Perfect for this thread :applause:
It's hard to come up with the 3rd star though. I think as long as the third star is an all-star and not in the top 5, it'll be fine.

Let's try a few random years..

1998
Top 1: Michael Jordan
Top 3: Karl Malone
Star: Tim Hardaway

2003
Top 1: Tim Duncan
Top 3: Kobe Bryant
Star: Ben Wallace

2006
Top 1: Kobe Bryant
Top 3: Dirk Nowitzki
Star: Jermaine O'Neal

:applause: :applause:
This formula is impeccable.. No matter how you do it.. seems like you'll always end up with a championship ring :cheers:

Eric Cartman
07-06-2012, 03:27 AM
Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson and James Worthy. How do you like them apples?

mrbuckets
07-06-2012, 03:29 AM
lol,i don't post much but this is a really great thread. rep to OP

blablabla
07-06-2012, 03:37 AM
2006
Top 1: Kobe Bryant
Top 3: Dirk Nowitzki
Star: Jermaine O'Neal

:applause: :applause:
This formula is impeccable.. No matter how you do it.. seems like you'll always end up with a championship ring :cheers:
this team is comparable to the current heat(or last years heat when wade was still a top 3/top 5 player

Lebron23
07-06-2012, 04:03 AM
All of the Kobetards are butthurt. I love to see your faces after LeBron wins his 2nd Finals MVP.

"Never go full Kobetard."

:pimp: :pimp: :pimp:

ripthekik
07-06-2012, 10:27 PM
Why these Lebron fans in here so mad? :oldlol:
Sensitive much? I didn't even criticize him in this thread.. never mentioned his name except put him in a top1 player spot...

:confusedshrug:

Rubio2Gasol
03-30-2013, 01:00 PM
Just saw the other thread:
The Best Players in the NBA: A Year-by-Year Analysis
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=102569

Perfect for this thread :applause:
It's hard to come up with the 3rd star though. I think as long as the third star is an all-star and not in the top 5, it'll be fine.

Let's try a few random years..

1998
Top 1: Michael Jordan
Top 3: Karl Malone
Star: Tim Hardaway

2003
Top 1: Tim Duncan
Top 3: Kobe Bryant
Star: Ben Wallace

2006
Top 1: Kobe Bryant
Top 3: Dirk Nowitzki
Star: Jermaine O'Neal

:applause: :applause:
This formula is impeccable.. No matter how you do it.. seems like you'll always end up with a championship ring :cheers:



That knowledge and understanding of the game, that skill, that instinct, that defense




:bowdown:

arifgokcen
03-30-2013, 01:07 PM
is op really comparing chris bosh to patrick ewing, grant hill, tracy mcgrady, and young kobe!?

http://gifmashup.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Mitt-Romney-Laughing.gif


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: apparently so :roll: :roll: :roll:

Rubio2Gasol
03-30-2013, 01:10 PM
What about this one though.

2002.

Top 1 : Shaq
Top 3 : Kobe
Star : Peja Stojakovic

Unstoppable on offense.

TheMarkMadsen
03-30-2013, 01:15 PM
What about this one though.

2002.

Top 1 : Shaq
Top 3 : Kobe
Star : Peja Stojakovic

Unstoppable on offense.


Nah there's no way Shaq & Kobe win a ring in 02, Kobe da chucker would chuck them out of game, replaces Kobe with somebody like dough christie and that team is 10x better

Lebron23
03-30-2013, 01:18 PM
LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Tony Parker

Rubio2Gasol
03-30-2013, 01:26 PM
Nah there's no way Shaq & Kobe win a ring in 02, Kobe da chucker would chuck them out of game, replaces Kobe with somebody like dough christie and that team is 10x better
:coleman: