Sofoklis Schortsanitis - 442 Pound Bench Press

[Euroleague]

After signing a 2 year contract with Panathinaikos Athens, Big Sofo was tested by the Panionios team's trainer.

He weighed in at 354 pounds.

He bench pressed 442 pounds.

http://www.sport24.gr/Basket/OmadesBasket/A1Panathinaikos/o_sofoklhs_aperripse_1_5_ekatommurio_gia_ton_panat hhnaiko.1842132.html

http://www.sport24.gr/incoming/article1841522.ece/ALTERNATES/w620/sofoklis.jpg

http://www.sport24.gr/incoming/article1841519.ece/BINARY/w460/sofo.jpg


Big Sofo training video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4d1fR4Q4LQ

[Heavincent]

Wrong forum

[Euroleague]

Wrong forum

Piss off.

[inclinerator]

its not hard to bench 442 when u weigh 442 lbs

[Heavincent]

Piss off.

Explain to me how this is NBA news.

[Euroleague]

its not hard to bench 442 when u weigh 442 lbs

He was weighed at 354.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Piss off.

No seriously though, you got the wrong forum. This is an NBA messageboard.

[Euroleague]

Explain to me how this is NBA news.

He is an NBA draft pick and the Clippers own his draft rights.

Now PISS OFF.

[Euroleague]

No seriously though, you got the wrong forum. This is an NBA messageboard.

No seriously, PISS OFF.

[WillyJakk]

Now was this 442lbs in cheeseburgers or hot wings?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jV1zjDzWtWk/SrS0B1sfU3I/AAAAAAAAAlo/FlEez3a_w8s/s400/Greek_Baby_Shaq_Sofoklis_Schortsanitis.jpg

And btw, nobody gives a sh*t bout this dude no more.

His 15 mins were up every since he never made it over to the L after catchin' rec in the World Games years ago.

[Euroleague]

Now was this 442lbs in cheeseburgers or hot wings?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jV1zjDzWtWk/SrS0B1sfU3I/AAAAAAAAAlo/FlEez3a_w8s/s400/Greek_Baby_Shaq_Sofoklis_Schortsanitis.jpg

And btw, nobody gives a sh*t bout this dude no more.

His 15 mins were up every since he never made it over to the L after catchin' rec in the World Games years ago.

You are a freaking idiot.

[tpols]

Now was this 442lbs in cheeseburgers or hot wings?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jV1zjDzWtWk/SrS0B1sfU3I/AAAAAAAAAlo/FlEez3a_w8s/s400/Greek_Baby_Shaq_Sofoklis_Schortsanitis.jpg

And btw, nobody gives a sh*t bout this dude no more.

His 15 mins were up every since he never made it over to the L after catchin' rec in the World Games years ago.
:biggums: :roll:

Can he even make it down a basketball court?

[JBrizzy]

What exactly did you want to discuss about this guy in this forum? He doesn't play in the NBA. Did you just want to talk about strong and sexy he is?

:roll:

[Wheatmeal]

After signing a 2 year contract with Panathinaikos Athens, Big Sofo was tested by the team's trainer.

He weighed in at 354 pounds.

He bench pressed 442 pounds.

http://www.sport24.gr/Basket/OmadesBasket/A1Panathinaikos/o_sofoklhs_aperripse_1_5_ekatommurio_gia_ton_panat hhnaiko.1842132.html


for real though,

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=6

[Remix]

OP is a ph4gg0t

[ProfessorMurder]

Piss off, he'll never play in the NBA.

[Heavincent]

He is an NBA draft pick and the Clippers own his draft rights.

Now PISS OFF.

He doesn't play in the NBA, thus it is not NBA related.

Why don't you go jerk it to the Spanoulis poster you have hanging in your Arkansas trailer home.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Please. Wilt could do 500

[Wheatmeal]

Please. Wilt could do 500
while at the same time fending off mountain lions


442 = move along

[DatAsh]

Please. Wilt could do 500

Do people actually believe Wilt could bench more than this guy?

[Fiasco]

He was only pressing the bench because it was in the way of the buffet table.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Do people actually believe Wilt could bench more than this guy?
jlauber does, he's told me multiple times Wilt benched 500 lbs. He also thinks Wilt had a 50" vertical.

[Ass Dan]

homeless man's Eddy Curry.

[martycrane]

homeless man's Eddy Curry.


eddy curry, sofolkis schortsinitis and a homeless man walk into a bar.

the bartender shoots them all with a shotgun and everyone at the bar says :cheers:

[stallionaire]

He was only pressing the bench because it was in the way of the buffet table.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

guy looks fat as hell. He'll never play in the NBA. He needs to slim down in the Euroleague AKA the NBA's OTHER D-League.

[WillyJakk]

He was only pressing the bench because it was in the way of the buffet table.

:oldlol:

But for real op beat it, scram, hit the bricks w/ this sh*t.

Nobody gives a sh*t about a guy who was drafted by the Clippers and NEVER MADE IT TO THE LEAGUE.

Really, he played well in 2006 FIBA or whatever and then washed out.

[CavaliersFTW]

Dude got murdered in the post all last season by Adam Morrisn
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=270134

[MeLO MvP 15]

Kevin Durant proved how important bench pressing is for an NBA player.

[qrich]

With his weight, he damn better.

Too bad he wouldn't even make the cut over Trey Thompkins for the Clips though. Ike Diogu =/= Sofo,

[Euroleague]

Do people actually believe Wilt could bench more than this guy?

http://elsextohombre.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/sofo.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3287/5704945623_b4198d05fe.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_WeYn9j4zx58/SqbOSTthUJI/AAAAAAAAB-0/y5FlpMNdhQA/s400/Sofoklis+Schortsanitis.jpg

http://chasing23.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/wilt.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Wilt_Chamberlain3.jpg/474px-Wilt_Chamberlain3.jpg


Wait, you mean someone doubts that Wilt could bench 500? REALLY?

:roll:

[mobbdeep]

who is this guy lol? He is HUGE. Video was only 54 secs long but he is agile

[Euroleague]

who is this guy lol? He is HUGE. Video was only 54 secs long but he is agile

He's a Clippers draft pick.

[WillyJakk]

He's a Clippers draft pick that was too chick'n sh*t to come to the NBA.

Fixed.

[CavaliersFTW]

He's a Clippers draft pick.
Lol, hes a euroscrub stop acting like this guy is nba worthy just so u can push your agenda :lol

[Euroleague]

Lol, hes a euroscrub stop acting like this guy is nba worthy just so u can push your agenda :lol

You are an idiot.

[magic chiongson]

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-GaxYT56Bpb8/T1R4dERJYRI/AAAAAAAADMQ/4dBb6RDj6Jc/s800/AP%2520statue.jpg

[BuffaloBill]

This has nothing to do with the NBA.

[jlauber]

Regarding the Wilt comments...

Chamberlain was in better shape in his last dying days, at age 62...

http://www.oread.ku.edu/Oread98/OreadJan23/page4/wilt.GIF

[DatAsh]

Regarding the Wilt comments...

Chamberlain was in better shape in his last dying days, at age 62...

http://www.oread.ku.edu/Oread98/OreadJan23/page4/wilt.GIF


Wilt would have to be considerably stronger than this man to put up the same bench press numbers, let alone more.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Regarding the Wilt comments...

Chamberlain was in better shape in his last dying days, at age 62...

http://www.oread.ku.edu/Oread98/OreadJan23/page4/wilt.GIF
He was benching 500 pounds at that age. I've read it in an art book.

[jlauber]

Wilt would have to be considerably stronger than this man to put up the same bench press numbers, let alone more.

Well, whether you choose to believe this, or not, this is a supposed eye-witness comment about Wilt's bench press at age 59...

http://wiltfan.tripod.com/chat.htm


This is the transcript from Wilt's online interview from MSNBC

Subject:
From:
Host:
Date: NBA legend Wilt Chamberlain 4-18-97
Chris Donohue (MSNBC)
MSNBC
Mon Nov 24 11:58

Host Chris_MSNBC2 says:
M3 says:
Question for Wilt...watched you bench press about 465 lbs like it was a match stick at the Stanford gym when you were working out there for some reason...how much can you still push up?

Host Wilt_Chamberlain says:
Well, probably I can push up a little more than that right now, because I was bench pressing some great weights. I was a shot-putter and lifting weights was a great joy to me. I liked to show off, I don't do that anymore, but I could probably bench press more than 465 pounds now.

[Fiasco]

He was only pressing the bench because it was in the way of the buffet table.
---

[Punpun]

Wilt could do a 500 lbs. At age 50. Try again.

:kobe:

[Punpun]

HOLY **** JLAUBER ACTUALLY IS POSTING ABOUT IT

:biggums:

[Ketchup]

440 is impressive for anyone, though with his build, mass and size, it really is just standard.

It's 1.25 times his bodyweight. At 210lbs currently I can put up anywhere between 315-335lbs for a one rep max. That's 1.6 times my bodyweight.

[Wavy Crockett]

What exactly did you want to discuss about this guy in this forum? He doesn't play in the NBA. Did you just want to talk about strong and sexy he is?

:roll:

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :roll:

[jlauber]

BTW,

In Robert Cherry's autobiography on Chamberlain, he interviewed a 6-5, 250 lb. Fluke Flucker, who worked out with Wilt at the Mid-Valley Racquetball Club in the 90's (Wilt's mid-50's). Fluker claimed that he, himself, could bench 500 lbs. Even Fluker was amazed at Wilt's strength. "The man could curl a 100 lb. dumbbell as easy as I can lift a telephone receiver."

[jlip]

Sofo vs Shaq '09 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft0fBZwRvy8&feature=related)

[Ketchup]

BTW,

In Robert Cherry's autobiography on Chamberlain, he interviewed a 6-5, 250 lb. Fluke Flucker, who worked out with Wilt at the Mid-Valley Racquetball Club in the 90's (Wilt's mid-50's). Fluker claimed that he, himself, could bench 500 lbs. Even Fluker was amazed at Wilt's strength. "The man could curl a 100 lb. dumbbell as easy as I can lift a telephone receiver."

Yeah... you're an idiot if you think Wilt could curl 100lbs. :oldlol:

[Fiasco]

So Homoleague wants to talk about how sexy Sofacalypse is and jlauber saves the day by sucking Wilt's moldy and undead dick.

Just another day at ISH.

[CelticBaller]

Now was this 442lbs in cheeseburgers or hot wings?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jV1zjDzWtWk/SrS0B1sfU3I/AAAAAAAAAlo/FlEez3a_w8s/s400/Greek_Baby_Shaq_Sofoklis_Schortsanitis.jpg

And btw, nobody gives a sh*t bout this dude no more.

His 15 mins were up every since he never made it over to the L after catchin' rec in the World Games years ago.
the guy plays the wrong sport, should be playing football :lol

[Noof]

the guy plays the wrong sport, should be playing football :lol
Or Major League Eating.

[Fiasco]

the guy plays the wrong sport, should be playing football :lol

Do you know he once benched a retard from Arkansas? I saw it with my own eyes.

[StroShow4]

Crazy that he was drafted way back in 2003. It's been almost 10 years.

[Fiasco]

Crazy that he was drafted way back in 2003. It's been almost 10 years.

10 years and 1000 pounds later, here we are.

[CelticBaller]

Do you know he once benched a retard from Arkansas? I saw it with my own eyes.
I heard he ate one once :eek:

[DatAsh]

BTW,

In Robert Cherry's autobiography on Chamberlain, he interviewed a 6-5, 250 lb. Fluke Flucker, who worked out with Wilt at the Mid-Valley Racquetball Club in the 90's (Wilt's mid-50's). Fluker claimed that he, himself, could bench 500 lbs. Even Fluker was amazed at Wilt's strength. "The man could curl a 100 lb. dumbbell as easy as I can lift a telephone receiver."

I actually am of the opinion that Chamberlain was the strongest man to ever play the game. I think the Arnold comment when they worked together for Conan is really a testament to just how strong he really was. Even still, I've been bodybuilding/around bodybuilding long enough to know that a 500lb bench for a 7'1-2" Chamberlain is absurd. All you have to do is look at the top powerlifters/worlds strongest men even close to his size(there aren't any at his size because tall people are generally awful on bench) to see how absurd it really is. Off the top of my head, the closest comparison I can think of is Nathan Jones who at 6'10" probably would have been the worlds strongest man if it weren't for an injury.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDrijM0H_Uc

I'm not sure Nathan Jones can even bench press 500lbs. He claims to have one reped 500lbs, but the highest recorded figure I've seen for him is 485. It's just a fact/undeniable truth of the bodybuilding/competitive strong man game, that tall men(especially those with long limbs) are generally less competitive at the pushing events. Now, I'd be willing to believe some pretty incredible curl/deadlift figures from Chamberlain, but that's an entirely different argument.

[StateOfMind12]

I just looked this guy up and he has zero Euroleague MVPs.

Why is anyone suppose to be impressed with this guy? Anthony Parker got 2 Euroleague MVPs and he was just an average player in the NBA. This guy has none so why am I suppose to believe this guy will do anything?




















Next.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Here are the Wilt tall tales. http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=253480
The last one is true though lol

[dgaras]

bench is worthless

real strength is squats and deadlifts

[Ketchup]

Here are the Wilt tall tales. http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=253480
The last one is true though lol

The clean and jerk of 435lbs is absolutely laughable.

Hadn't heard that one before. Hilarious. Anyone with any experience lifting weights would laugh hysterically if you told them that about someone like Wilt.

[WillyJakk]

Ok, normally I don't do this but...

I gotta stand up for Wilt.

Just because a guy may appear to be rangy doesn't mean he isn't strong as an ox, and we're talking young Wilt, but once he was w/ LA you could clearly see the guy has some size and I don't doubt for a second he could bench close to 500lbs if not 500lbs.

Flip side of that is just because some guys are huge and appear to be strong, it doesn't equate to truth cause I know plenty of guys who look strong but aren't strong at all, I see it in the gym EVERYDAY.

Further proof just look at the NFL combine, the guys who typically lift the most/ higher tier in strength are the DB's etc, not strictly the D or O linesmen.

Lastly, strength/ explosiveness comes from tendon/ fast twitch muscle fibers, not necessarily just having "big looking muscles" so if your tendons can explode quickly enough it'll be no problem lifting heavier weights.

[Lebron23]

Is Sofo good enough to play in the NBA right now? A Past his prime Shaq outplayed him in 2009.

[qrich]

Is Sofo good enough to play in the NBA right now? A Past his prime Shaq outplayed him in 2009.

He couldn't get interest from the Clippers a few years back...so no.

[Lebron23]

He couldn't get interest from the Clippers a few years back...so no.

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[BoutPractice]

Sofo's a pretty good player off the bench.

If you put him on the court for a few minutes, he will find ways to score. He's almost impossible to stop down low.

He will also commit charges, pick up stupid fouls, and quickly get tired, so you can't have him for more than 3-4 minutes at a time.

Based on what he brings to the table, he definitely has a place on an NBA rotation somewhere. The problem is whether he can stay in shape.

[Clippersfan86]

Is Sofo good enough to play in the NBA right now? A Past his prime Shaq outplayed him in 2009.

Clippers gave him two chances in the summer league and both time he failed miserably. He couldn't even shine vs undrafted scrubs. Short answer... fu** no.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I'd hate to fight him but he makes Perk look like KJ.

[Fiasco]

I'd hate to fight him but he makes Perk look like KJ.

lol if you want to beat him in a fight, all you need to do is dress up like a loose ball

he can't catch grab those

[Raz]

Now was this 442lbs in cheeseburgers or hot wings?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jV1zjDzWtWk/SrS0B1sfU3I/AAAAAAAAAlo/FlEez3a_w8s/s400/Greek_Baby_Shaq_Sofoklis_Schortsanitis.jpg

And btw, nobody gives a sh*t bout this dude no more.

His 15 mins were up every since he never made it over to the L after catchin' rec in the World Games years ago.

Guy is so fat, he should be wearing a moo-moo.
http://hippiefairy.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/115682310513_moomoo.jpg

[Raz]

Clippers gave him two chances in the summer league and both time he failed miserably. He couldn't even shine vs undrafted scrubs. Short answer... fu** no.

This. He doesn't have the fitness, athleticism or skill level to be effective at the NBA level. Like a less skilled Tractor Traylor (RIP).

Also, can anyone actually pronounce his name?

[LA_Showtime]

Those aren't very good numbers if he weighs around 350.

[ILLsmak]

http://elsextohombre.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/sofo.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3287/5704945623_b4198d05fe.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_WeYn9j4zx58/SqbOSTthUJI/AAAAAAAAB-0/y5FlpMNdhQA/s400/Sofoklis+Schortsanitis.jpg

http://chasing23.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/wilt.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Wilt_Chamberlain3.jpg/474px-Wilt_Chamberlain3.jpg


Wait, you mean someone doubts that Wilt could bench 500? REALLY?

:roll:

Funny thing is Shaq would still beast his ass.

Bench press matters, but not as much as you'd think in the NBA.

-Smak

[bmulls]

Those are European weights, in America he actually benches much less

[ILLsmak]

Those are European weights, in America he actually benches much less

cuz europe is on the moon.

-Smak

[NumberSix]

Who? :confusedshrug:

[Rake2204]

440 is impressive for anyone, though with his build, mass and size, it really is just standard.

It's 1.25 times his bodyweight. At 210lbs currently I can put up anywhere between 315-335lbs for a one rep max. That's 1.6 times my bodyweight.
I can bench press 1.33928571 times my body weight. I'll have to check my sources, but I think that makes me stronger than Schortsanitis.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I can bench press 1.33928571 times my body weight. I'll have to check my sources, but I think that makes me stronger than Schortsanitis.
You don't have a seven-footer's wingspan. The longer your arms are the further you have to push the weight and the stronger you have to be to match the bench of someone with sorter arms. Avery Johnson could bench 400 but he still wasn't near the strength of Shaq in any way except the lb-for-lb stuff that doesn't matter at all in head-to-head competition.

[Rake2204]

You don't have a seven-footer's wingspan. The longer your arms are the further you have to push the weight and the stronger you have to be to match the bench of someone with sorter arms. Avery Johnson could bench 400 but he still wasn't near the strength of Shaq in any way except the lb-for-lb stuff that doesn't matter at all in head-to-head competition.
Yeah, I wasn't being serious. Chalk another one up for me being unable to accurately portray sarcasm over the information super highway.

[Nash]

DUde is so black, how is he half black half white and Austin Rivers is half black half white too?

[Rooster]

Sofo's a pretty good player off the bench.

If you put him on the court for a few minutes, he will find ways to score. He's almost impossible to stop down low.

He will also commit charges, pick up stupid fouls, and quickly get tired, so you can't have him for more than 3-4 minutes at a time.

Based on what he brings to the table, he definitely has a place on an NBA rotation somewhere. The problem is whether he can stay in shape.


Sofo averaged 2.5 points, 3.8 rebounds, 2.8 fouls and 2.3 turnovers per game in summer league, shooting 33% from the field and 46% from the line. Just because he looks like a pretty good player in Euroleague means he can be like that in NBA. Krstic is now a scrub but still dominated that league.

[niko]

That is a big fat man.

[knickballer]

LMAO what a gold greek this Sofoklis fella is! I'm sure Archimedes would be proud!

[CavaliersFTW]

http://elsextohombre.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/sofo.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3287/5704945623_b4198d05fe.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_WeYn9j4zx58/SqbOSTthUJI/AAAAAAAAB-0/y5FlpMNdhQA/s400/Sofoklis+Schortsanitis.jpg

http://chasing23.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/wilt.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Wilt_Chamberlain3.jpg/474px-Wilt_Chamberlain3.jpg


Wait, you mean someone doubts that Wilt could bench 500? REALLY?

:roll:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jV1zjDzWtWk/SrS0B1sfU3I/AAAAAAAAAlo/FlEez3a_w8s/s400/Greek_Baby_Shaq_Sofoklis_Schortsanitis.jpg

Euroleague, biggest troller on ISH NBA forum :roll: ... u post pics of Wilt as a sinewy 258lb Globetrotter and a 280lb 76er as if it represents him when he allegedly could push up ~500lbs... highest bench press claim for Wilt from the era of the pic you posted is 350lbs when he was young and 400lbs when he was in his 76er years. The ~500lb bench press Wilt was 327lbs and working out with Arnold Schwartzenegger for the film Conan the Destroyer in his 40's dumbass. And I have zero trouble believing that Wilt could bench press the eyewitness 465lbs especially if a marshmellow like sofatassklis (whos weight includes a great deal of blubber) is pushing up 442lbs... U see, since he played in the NBA, Wilt was an actual athlete. This is just a massive fail thread :oldlol:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-r8Jra4iv334/T2aaFy76TmI/AAAAAAAADPs/CS9mtSJGG_c/s800/Shaq%2520Wilt%2520Scale.jpg

Same logic applies for the people who think Shaq should have benched more than Wilt... If I scaled your 6-10 fat friend to this pic instead of Shaq his physical inadequacies would look even sadder. Banish yourself from the NBA forum please, you sad strange little troll

[Horde of Temujin]

DUde is so black, how is he half black half white and Austin Rivers is half black half white too?

Genetics is a motha*****. Greeks are olive not white. Maybe that helps.

[Linspired]

you idiots. 442lb bench isn't a lot for a guy that big.

i've seen plenty of 225lb under dudes benching 400lb.

[Linspired]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jV1zjDzWtWk/SrS0B1sfU3I/AAAAAAAAAlo/FlEez3a_w8s/s400/Greek_Baby_Shaq_Sofoklis_Schortsanitis.jpg

Euroleague, biggest troller on ISH NBA forum :roll: ... u post pics of Wilt as a sinewy 258lb Globetrotter and a 280lb 76er as if it represents him when he allegedly could push up ~500lbs... highest bench press claim for Wilt from the era of the pic you posted is 350lbs when he was young and 400lbs when he was in his 76er years. The ~500lb bench press Wilt was 327lbs and working out with Arnold Schwartzenegger for the film Conan the Destroyer in his 40's dumbass. And I have zero trouble believing that Wilt could bench press the eyewitness 465lbs especially if a marshmellow like sofatassklis (whos weight includes a great deal of blubber) is pushing up 442lbs... U see, since he played in the NBA, Wilt was an actual athlete. This is just a massive fail thread :oldlol:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-r8Jra4iv334/T2aaFy76TmI/AAAAAAAADPs/CS9mtSJGG_c/s800/Shaq%2520Wilt%2520Scale.jpg

Same logic applies for the people who think Shaq should have benched more than Wilt... If I scaled your 6-10 fat friend to this pic instead of Shaq his physical inadequacies would look even sadder. Banish yourself from the NBA forum please, you sad strange little troll


sorry dude, that's kinda weak argument. obviously wilt is FLEXING, shaq isn't. and have you seen those powerlifters?

http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/103/6457443163a24014a655a705ea0ef089/l.jpg
http://johnbarban.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Powerlifter.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Et5CYyLnGxc/Tcv9eQOk6fI/AAAAAAAAAFI/XFEtawu1gAs/s1600/power+lifter.jpg


being leaner = / = better at bench press


and this is recent shaq.
http://iamflashdance.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/shirt-off-charkes-shaq.jpeg
http://cdn.cosbysweaters.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/shaq.png

and shaq in the past
http://newspaper.li/static/62573d63ad139df910457b27e798b151.jpg

shaq is considerably bigger in his upperbody. thicker waist, arms, chest and etc. and IMO having more fat actually helps because most of the strong man competitors not named mariuz Pudz have alot of body fat%.

wilt maybe strong as hell, but i don't believe he was as strong as shaq as far as functional NBA strength goes. shaq looks visibly more violent/stronger in his moves. wilt could easily bench press more than shaq if wilt consistently trained and shaq didn't. hell, shaq may never benched more than 400lb if he never trained for it. but from the looks of wilt's physique, he seems like he isn't much of a big bench presser either. his chest muscle is kinda weak.

[CavaliersFTW]

sorry dude, that's kinda weak argument. obviously wilt is FLEXING, shaq isn't. and have you seen those powerlifters?

being leaner = / = better at bench press
:facepalm @ posting pics of 6-0 dudes who have skeletal measurements not even in the same ballpark as pro basketball centers who are 6-9+ with large wingspans. And my logic sailed way over your head, like, you didn't even begin to address it. At least stick to the comparable athletes i don't give a flippidy **** about power lifters who walk around with stocky neanderthal skeletons and t-rex wingspans and live to increase their bench. They aren't skeletally similar to any of the players in question.

and all else equal, being leaner in fat while having similar total mass does = more functional muscle and therefore strength.... how did you not make that connection?

and this is recent shaq.
http://iamflashdance.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/shirt-off-charkes-shaq.jpeg
http://cdn.cosbysweaters.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/shaq.png

and shaq in the past
http://newspaper.li/static/62573d63ad139df910457b27e798b151.jpg

Shaq is considerably bigger in his upperbody. thicker waist, arms, chest and etc. and IMO having more fat actually helps because most of the dudes not named mariuz Pudz have alot of body fat%.

Shaq's 450lb bench-press claim dates as far back as ~2001, when he was roughly 325lbs which is when my example pic comes from. I don't care whether he's flexing or not, clearly he has more body fat than Wilt - yet he DOESN'T weigh more, meaning he has less muscle mass. (and :roll: @ you posting a pic of him flaunting spray-painted abs from the weight contest with Barkley). Your going to tell me that Shaq weighing 325 (15+%> minimum of body fat) vs Wilt weighing 327 (<10% equaling body fat) and Shaq isn't at a disadvantage due to their differences in body fat? :biggums: :roll: :lol They both weigh the same and one's weight is comprised more of fat? You don't think that matters at all? Fo Real!? And no, Shaq's weight is exactly the polar opposite of what you tried to say - relative to Wilt his weight is NOT concentrated in his upper body it is in fact more concentrated in his legs (and belly) and anyone who has seen a pic of Wilt's exposed leg's would know this. Wilt had pencil legs, no matter how much mass he added too his upper body his legs were always like stilts. So where are you suggesting Wilt's muscle mass lies since it clearly can't be his skinny ass legs? Wilt's upper body strength @ 327lbs > Shaq's at 325lbs >>>>>> Sefolofatass @ 350lbs

If you disagree good for you, but so far you've done a terrible job trying to find holes in the point I made.

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wilt probably has denser bones than shaq

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wilt was a great physical specimen for sure. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ByNwwMkv_jQ/TI0FgVPMSsI/AAAAAAAAAHs/HSkzTKryLu4/s1600/wilt+lakers+crouching.jpeg
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http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/1973/0219_large.jpg

but IMO, shaq was even better physical specimen because shaq he carried so much more weight and still ran like a deer.

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:facepalm @ posting pics of 6-0 dudes who have skeletal measurements not even in the same ballpark as pro basketball centers who are 6-9+ with large wingspans. And my logic sailed way over your head, like, you didn't even begin to address it. At least stick to the comparable athletes i don't give a flippidy **** about power lifters who walk around with stocky neanderthal skeletons and t-rex wingspans and live to increase their bench. They aren't skeletally similar to any of the players in question.

and all else equal, being leaner in fat while having similar total mass does = more functional muscle and therefore strength.... how did you not make that connection?


Shaq's 450lb bench-press claim dates as far back as ~2001, when he was roughly 325lbs which is when my example pic comes from. I don't care whether he's flexing or not, clearly he has more body fat than Wilt - yet he DOESN'T weigh more, meaning he has less muscle mass. (and :roll: @ you posting a pic of him flaunting spray-painted abs from the weight contest with Barkley). Your going to tell me that Shaq weighing 325 (15+%> minimum of body fat) vs Wilt weighing 327 (<10% equaling body fat) and Shaq isn't at a disadvantage due to their differences in body fat? :biggums: :roll: :lol They both weigh the same and one's weight is comprised more of fat? You don't think that matters at all? Fo Real!? And no, Shaq's weight is exactly the polar opposite of what you tried to say - relative to Wilt his weight is NOT concentrated in his upper body it is in fact more concentrated in his legs (and belly) and anyone who has seen a pic of Wilt's exposed leg's would know this. Wilt had pencil legs, no matter how much mass he added too his upper body his legs were always like stilts. So where are you suggesting Wilt's muscle mass lies since it clearly can't be his skinny ass legs? Wilt's upper body strength @ 327lbs > Shaq's at 325lbs >>>>>> Sefolofatass @ 350lbs

If you disagree good for you, but so far you've done a terrible job trying to find holes in the point I made.



you are crazy if you think wilt weighed as much as prime laker shaq. i mean seriously? :biggums:

if Wilt was 327lb on the pictures i've posted, then shaq would easily be 350lb. sorry dude, prime shaq had easily 20+lb on heaviest wilt. and no i don't need any proof for that. it's called an eye test.


6ft 8 brian shaw.
http://strengthrules.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/brian-shaw-strongman.jpg

every damn powerlifters in this planet usually carry sh!!tload of fat. i wonder why is that? lol

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wilt probably has denser bones than shaq

i heard Wilt's bone weighed 3.5 x more than a typical bone. :bowdown:

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wilt was a great physical specimen for sure. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ByNwwMkv_jQ/TI0FgVPMSsI/AAAAAAAAAHs/HSkzTKryLu4/s1600/wilt+lakers+crouching.jpeg
http://www.rankopedia.com/CandidatePix/92210.gif
http://www.headlinesports.net/catalog/0372ml.jpg
http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/1973/0219_large.jpg

but IMO, shaq was even better physical specimen because shaq he carried so much more weight and still ran like a deer.
Shaq got timed on the show Shaq-Vs, he ran a 5.8 40 in shoes (~350lbs mind you, yes, it's impressive).

Wilt also got timed in the 40, he was about 290lbs at the time, and he was timed barefoot. He clocked 4.6...Shaq weighs more but he hardly "runs like a deer" in comparison. Wilt pushes 20.5% reduced body mass 26% faster than Shaq. Meaning he's not only ultimately quicker, but also relatively quicker pound for pound. Even in his bare feet. Seriously dude your comparing an accomplished track athlete to a guy who was well known for letting his physical fitness slide.

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oh by the way, any Wilt pictures from Conan the Barbarian doesn't really count. Wilt was removed from basketball for 9 years!! who knows all he ever did was train with Arnie? if Wilt ever benched 500lb then it must be after he retired. Wilt does look like he carried more muscle in his biceps in 1984 than 1973.

regardless lakers shaq is considerably bigger than any wilt in his playing days.

[CavaliersFTW]

you are crazy if you think wilt weighed as much as prime laker shaq. i mean seriously? :biggums:

if Wilt was 327lb on the pictures i've posted, then shaq would easily be 350lb. sorry dude, prime shaq had easily 20+lb on heaviest wilt. and no i don't need any proof for that. it's called an eye test.


6ft 8 brian shaw.
http://strengthrules.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/brian-shaw-strongman.jpg

every damn powerlifters in this planet usually carry sh!!tload of fat. i wonder why is that? lol
Wilt isn't 327lb in the pics you posted, stop jumping to conclusions. He was 327lbs in the pic I posted at 40+ years old when he was working out with Arnie, which is where the 500lb bench figures started coming from. As an LA Laker in the pics you posted he is 285-305lbs depending on if they are pre or post-knee surgery. And Shaq weighed 325-350 in his prime (303lbs as a rookie) but 325 is his weight when the 450lb bench press claim surfaced for himself. Thus, I compared apples to apples. Their weights and their bench figures. From the specific time and physical condition of the players when the information began to occur. U follow?

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Shaq got timed on the show Shaq-Vs, he ran a 5.8 40 in shoes (~350lbs mind you, yes, it's impressive).

Wilt also got timed in the 40, he was about 290lbs at the time, and he was timed barefoot. He clocked 4.6...Shaq weighs more but he hardly "runs like a deer" in comparison. Wilt pushes 20.5% reduced body mass 26% faster than Shaq. Meaning he's not only ultimately quicker, but also relatively quicker pound for pound. Even in his bare feet. Seriously dude your comparing an accomplished track athlete to a guy who was well known for letting his physical fitness slide.


dude, we all know after shaq's prime, he was just a shell of his monster self. i can easily buy 44 year old wilt doing movies, boning 20k women was fitter, faster, and stronger than 35-36 year old shaq.

but i'm talking about 26-30 year old shaq here. that's the beast shaq i'm talking about. and that shaq ran like a deer.

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Wilt isn't 327lb in the pics you posted dumbass, stop jumping to conclusions. He was 327lbs in the pic I posted at 40+ years old when he was working out with Arnie, which is where the 500lb bench figures started coming from. As an LA Laker in the pics you posted he is 285-305lbs depending on if they are pre or post-knee surgery. And Shaq weighed 325-350 in his prime (303lbs as a rookie) but 325 is his weight when the 450lb bench press claim surfaced for himself. Thus, I compared apples to apples. Their weights and their bench figures. From the specific time and physical condition of the players when the information began to occur. U follow?


you are the one who posted 44 year old wilt next to prime laker shaq. honestly i don't believe 500lb even if wilt trained like a maniac. his arm is too long and his chest muscle looks so ordinary.

this 6ft 1/2 inch dude who bench pressed all his life, a known juicer with much shorter arm and 3 times more muscle in his chest couldn't bench legit raw 500lb. many speculate arnie's max was around 490-495lb
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Some of you believe anything you read, stories about Wilt are notoriously exaggerated, or do you think he counted 20,000 women, etc?

How gullible are some people..

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dude, we all know after shaq's prime, he was just a shell of his monster self. i can easily buy 44 year old wilt doing movies, boning 20k women was fitter, faster, and stronger than 35-36 year old shaq.

but i'm talking about 26-30 year old shaq here. that's the beast shaq i'm talking about. and that shaq ran like a deer.
He did run well, I still don't think he ran like Wilt though, I feel that's what seperates them is the running and leaping. Running (especially endurance) would be where I feel Shaq doesn't compare to Wilt in, but physical brute strength and even agility is where I feel they are comparable. I have both of their detailed measurements and they are freakishly similar - Wilt always being leaner and having about an inch of wingspan, 2 inches of reach, and a smidge of height over Shaq - while Shaq always has about 50lbs on Wilt and as I said, it's concentrated lower, meaning he might have more effective strength (it's harder to move a lower center of gravity) in the low-post.

[CavaliersFTW]

Some of you believe anything you read, stories about Wilt are notoriously exaggerated, or do you think he counted 20,000 women, etc?

How gullible are some people..
Spoken like a true Wilt Chamberlain historian :applause:

How about you let the people who have actually done research do the talking please. My BS meter works just fine, we're not talking about killing a mountain lion here and Wilt himself never talked about his bench press figures, they came from other people.

[CavaliersFTW]

oh by the way, any Wilt pictures from Conan the Barbarian doesn't really count. Wilt was removed from basketball for 9 years!! who knows all he ever did was train with Arnie? if Wilt ever benched 500lb then it must be after he retired. Wilt does look like he carried more muscle in his biceps in 1984 than 1973.

regardless lakers shaq is considerably bigger than any wilt in his playing days.
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Doesn't count? Your lost man, totally lost in the discussion. All I did was point when such feats of Wilt's strength were occuring and demonstrating with the same cheap eyeball test tactic, that it is indeed plausible that a man of that mass (327lbs at the time) was able to bench those figures.. And I posted it because Eurotroll thought posting pics of a 258lb skinny ass Harlem Globetrotter Wilt was a comical indiciation of Wilt's maximum physical prowess and "proof" that Wilt never benched the figures often cited. :facepalm

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He did run well, I still don't think he ran like Wilt though, I feel that's what seperates them is the running and leaping. Running (especially endurance) would be where I feel Shaq doesn't compare to Wilt in, but physical brute strength and even agility is where I feel they are comparable. I have both of their detailed measurements and they are freakishly similar - Wilt always being leaner and having about an inch of wingspan, 2 inches of reach, and a smidge of height over Shaq - while Shaq always has about 50lbs on Wilt and as I said, it's concentrated lower, meaning he might have more effective strength (it's harder to move a lower center of gravity) in the low-post.

young wilt clearly had better vertical than shaq for sure. wilt also had straight line speed advantage, but they are centers, so it's rarely utilized in the game. endurance too. shaq never had a great endurance because he just carried so much weight.

regardless, shaq to me was a physical phenomenon. a guy that big who carries so much weight shouldn't be so agile and fast. his nba strength is not matched by any other players in the history of NBA IMO. and you are right his bun buns are probably twice more meaty than wilt's. strong dudes always had that beef buns. charles for ex.

i laugh at those who think bron is the #1 freak of nature of all time.

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Doesn't count? Your lost man, totally lost in the discussion. All I did was point when such feats of Wilt's strength were occuring and demonstrating with the same cheap eyeball test tactic, that it is indeed plausible that a man of that mass (327lbs at the time) was able to bench those figures.. And I posted it because Eurotroll thought posting pics of a 258lb skinny ass Harlem Globetrotter Wilt was a comical indiciation of Wilt's maximum physical prowess and "proof" that Wilt never benched the figures often cited. :facepalm


no i wasn't. i read your post and your ridiculous shaq/wilt side by side picture which is a weak argument. i still don't buy 500lb for 44 year old 327lb wilt. his arm is too long, chest is kinda ordinary.

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no i wasn't. i read your post and your ridiculous shaq/wilt side by side picture which is a weak argument. i still don't buy 500lb for 44 year old 327lb wilt. his arm is too long, chest is kinda ordinary.
Regardless of how fit he appears that pic of Shaq is when he was allegedly benching 450, and that fatass sefolfatty is doing 442. If you think Wilt, one of the greatest physical marvels in sports history particularly noted for strength, is not capable of putting up that kind of weight in his condition in the picture I posted despite the insistance of other eyewitnesses (note, his bench press figures never came from Wilt's own mouth) than I don't know what to tell you. You'll believe 325lb Shaq (not even in perfect fitness) benched 450 despite carrying more body fat and relatively more weight in his lower body, and you'll believe 350lb fat Europlayer benched 442, but a lean 327lb Wilt (note. Same total mass as Shaq when Shaq benched 450, and the weight isn't comprised of fat, or shifted to his lower body) can't. Got it.