why are we acting like ray allen is gods gift?

[Knicksfever2010]

he almost needed a wheelchair in the playoffs to get around. Very confusing why people are all of a sudden acting like he is the ray allen of old. Same can be said for the knicks getting jason kidd. If either team needs to rely on these guys for major minutes they're both in trouble.

[Nash]

Why? Because here is a guy who averaged 15 ppg while being injured. Also he's the best shooter in the history of the game and they don't expect him to handle the ball in Miami. He will be a monster for them. Both shooting the ball but also keeping the opposing defense to stop double teaming Lebron and Wade(nobody is stupid to leave Ray Allen completely open) which could open up the game for them as well.

[TylerOO]

Best shooter ever+Wide open threes= amazing

[IGotACoolStory]

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i211/ijiwaru_sensei/Screen%20Captures/HeGotGame1.jpg

[Knicksfever2010]

Why? Because here is a guy who averaged 15 ppg while being injured. Also he's the best shooter in the history of the game and they don't expect him to handle the ball in Miami. He will be a monster for them. Both shooting the ball but also keeping the opposing defense to stop double teaming Lebron and Wade(nobody is stupid to leave Ray Allen completely open) which could open up the game for them as well.

but he no longer is 'the best shooter in the game'... dont get me wrong, he will make the open 3 pointer, but in boston he made his living at running around and coming off picks. I just dont see him at his advanced age (nba wise) keeping up, especially in the playoffs.

[DurantFor40]

Because he doesn't need to do near as much on Miami... he could literally sit the whole regular season and watch them get the 1 seed, and walk into the playoffs 100% healthy and drain his wide open 3 pointers. Heat got a lot better with Ray Ray

[Cherry Picker]

Ray went to South Beach for the wide open looks but I am not talking about 3 pointers

[chips93]

but he no longer is 'the best shooter in the game'... dont get me wrong, he will make the open 3 pointer, but in boston he made his living at running around and coming off picks. I just dont see him at his advanced age (nba wise) keeping up, especially in the playoffs.

but he doesnt need picks, he just needs to move to the open spots, when the defense closes in on james or wade

he hit 45% from 3, last year, a career high, and he will have to work even less to get open in miami

[Nash]

but he no longer is 'the best shooter in the game'... dont get me wrong, he will make the open 3 pointer, but in boston he made his living at running around and coming off picks. I just dont see him at his advanced age (nba wise) keeping up, especially in the playoffs.
He's still the best shooter in the game. But the opponents always knew about him and marked him because his shooting was one of Bostons main threats. In Miami it won't be and the opponents have guys like Lebron, Bosh and Wade to think about before thinking of Allen. That will give him more space.

And lets not forget he played with injuries last season and still averaged 15ppg. With a healthy ankle he will be in much better shape.

[Haymaker]

Ray is a very positive influence in the locker room. Lebron could learn a lot from him when it comes to his spartan-like discipline and preparation. He will be like what Billups is to the Clippers.

[swi7ch]

He broke the 3 point shooting record while having to work so hard by going through multiple screens in a single possession. Now, he's going to shoot UNCONTESTED 3s all game long.

Just think about that for a minute.

[swi7ch]

but in boston he made his living at running around and coming off picks. I just dont see him at his advanced age (nba wise) keeping up, especially in the playoffs.
That's the whole point! He doesn't need to do any of that wiht MIA! He just needs to stand in the corner and shoot open threes while LBJ and Wade do the damage with their driving/slashing game.

:bowdown:

You remember how many 3s Battier, Miller, Bibby last year, etc. all missed while they were wide open? Now imagine RayRay in the same situation... but we all know he's not missing a lot since he's the freakin' 3 pt king of all time!

[Living Being]

I think Miami is taking a major risk with this guy. They might have to rely on the big 3 when it's all said and done. Not a good thing.

[Godzuki]

he's a perfect complement to what the Heat could use.. dead eye 3pt shooter playing with 3 superstars, and adds veterans presence.

[Fiasco]

Why is his real name Jesus Shuttlesworth?

[boozehound]

no doubt. people seem to forget that he followed up his record setting finals performance with several absolute clunkers of a game. dude is still a decent player, but the overreaction to his signing is pretty funny.

[noosaman]

He will be rejuvenated once he gets some Cubana snatch on 8th street

[It's A VC3!!!]

they won the finals 4-1. It's not like they are asking him to get them over the hump. If he can use a screen set by d-wade, or bosh or whomever, and hit an open shot, he is worth the investment. great pickup by miami.

[KyrieTheFuture]

I think Miami is taking a major risk with this guy. They might have to rely on the big 3 when it's all said and done. Not a good thing.

And that's different from this year how? Also they have like 4 million committed to him. Hardly a huge risk.

[LakersReign]

he almost needed a wheelchair in the playoffs to get around. Very confusing why people are all of a sudden acting like he is the ray allen of old. Same can be said for the knicks getting jason kidd. If either team needs to rely on these guys for major minutes they're both in trouble.

Ray should've gone elsewhere to play if he no longer wanted to play in Boston. In Miami now, he'll be the "hero" when they're winning, but the "goat" when they're losing. This is just yet another example of how pathetically two-faced Lebron fans are. They try to lie and say that Lakers fans were supposedly talking championship when we signed Sessions last year, and made a huge deal out of it when the Lakers were eliminated. Now cuz the Heat signed Ray, it's championship cruise Part 2? Sheer hypocrisy.:facepalm

[TheCorporation]

Why is his real name Jesus Shuttlesworth?

Because he got game, bro

[Smoke117]

no doubt. people seem to forget that he followed up his record setting finals performance with several absolute clunkers of a game. dude is still a decent player, but the overreaction to his signing is pretty funny.

No, what people seem to forget is Ron Artest Kneed him in the thigh in game 3 giving him a deep bone bruise in said thigh. You go out and play professionally and try to get the right lift on your shots when you can't even jump right.

[RaininTwos]

I'm kinda saddened by how jaded people are here. We get it, you hate the Heat, but the reaction that some people are claiming to be "over the top" is very appropiate. Ray Allen, one of, if not the greatest shooter of all time will be playing with Lebron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh. He will no longer need to run through a million screens in order to receive multiple open looks due to his teammates ability to break defenses down to the point where double teams and excessive help are imminent.

Like I said before in another Ray thread, I honestly have no clue how people are going to guard this team anymore. You can't leave Ray open, regardless of how hot and cold he is but then again you've got three all-stars who can pass the ball to the open shooter pretty damn well. This is a recipe for disaster. Allen shot 45% last year and if he is getting the same shots that Chalmers, James Jones, Mike Miller and Battier have been receiving, dude will shoot over 50% from three and I wouldn't be surprised if his scoring actually increased this year.

This is a huge signing. People have forgotten that Miami was shooting like shit from the perimeter during most of their playoff run. Battier and Miller came on really late and Chalmers had his moments here and there. Ray does have times where he can't hit the side of a barn during his major slumps like Boozehound pointed out, but those times are few and far between. I can see Ray killing some teams next year with red hot shooting from the outside already.

[Dwade305]

Been saying this from the beggining. There is no Kg on the Heat that will get his back when he misses a rotation or lets a man breeze by him. As soon as Spo sees him getting abused when he is on D, he is getting off the court. Same reason why JJ doesnt play as much, he simply is not good enough defensively, and if their shot is not falling, o boy, they are practically useless. No real big expectations from Ray in my book other than playing 10-20 min per game, closer to 30 min if he gets hot and whoever is covering him is not torching him.

[All Net]

but he no longer is 'the best shooter in the game'... dont get me wrong, he will make the open 3 pointer, but in boston he made his living at running around and coming off picks. I just dont see him at his advanced age (nba wise) keeping up, especially in the playoffs.

He shot 45% from three even with bone spurs... The looks he will get he should be up there again

Comparing him to Jason Kidd is a complete insult to ray at this point of their careers.

This was a great signing for Miami in so many ways and gives wade the chance to rest more and vis versa

[Cali Syndicate]

Because when a duo of Lebron and Wade can create so many open shots for their teammates, a player like Ray Allen becomes the ultimate weapon.

Remember Miller and Battier consistently knocking down open 3 after open 3 after open 3 in the finals? Imagine that consistently happening game after game after game with Ray Allen.

[fos]

He's God's gift to moviegoers... I still jerk off to him and Rosario Dawson. ****, she ain't even got to be in it for all I care.

[WeGetRing2012]

He wasn't that great during the last 3 playoff runs for the Cs. Remember his 0/13 game (?) and his bad Game 7 vs the Lakers in 2010

[Kingwillball]

Because when a duo of Lebron and Wade can create so many open shots for their teammates, a player like Ray Allen becomes the ultimate weapon.

Remember Miller and Battier consistently knocking down open 3 after open 3 after open 3 in the finals? Imagine that consistently happening game after game after game with Ray Allen.


This.. Anybody who doesnt think a HEalthy Ray Allen will be aHuge Weapon off bench on HEat is surely mistaken. He will Keep Defenses from Doubling Wade and Lebron and if they do or overcompensate when One of them drives or Posts up he will make the defense pay.

[28renyoy]

Overreaction. He's not going to be much better than Miller or Jones were, who both shot above 40% from 3.

Mike Miller shot 45.3% from 3 last year and is a career 40.5% 3 point shooter.
He's one of the greatest 3 point shooter in history as well

[SIRI1]

Overreaction. He's not going to be much better than Miller or Jones were, who both shot above 40% from 3.

Mike Miller shot 45.3% from 3 last year and is a career 40.5% 3 point shooter.
He's one of the greatest 3 point shooter in history as well
Difference is that Mike and James Jones cant do anything but catch and shoot while with Ray, you can run him off screens and the defense has to respect him and make sure they arent late on rotations with him. Its a whole new dimension of offense that will be added.

[Dwade305]

Difference is that Mike and James Jones cant do anything but catch and shoot while with Ray, you can run him off screens and the defense has to respect him and make sure they arent late on rotations with him. Its a whole new dimension of offense that will be added.
I'll love to see James, or Wade, set double screens for a Ray 3, but that shit is not going to happen:oldlol: It will when the bench is on the floor, or an occasional "out of a time out" play where they throw the defense off(Which they do with JJ btw, idk where you get that he doesnt run off screens:oldlol: ) This aint the Celtics, Miami is ISO ball and the shooters can roam around. If bron or Wade find you, and feel like passing, Ray will get his buckets.

[BoutPractice]

Still, even disregarding off-the-ball screens his ability to move without the ball makes him a far more dangerous threat than Miller and Jones. He's the ideal decoy.

[Blue&Orange]

Because he doesn't need to do near as much on Miami... he could literally sit the whole regular season and watch them get the 1 seed, and walk into the playoffs 100% healthy and drain his wide open 3 pointers. Heat got a lot better with Ray Ray
This is funny because in other thread when i pointed out the obvious, outside of Lebron and Wade, it's nearly impossible to improve Miami 3 point shooting during the last Finals, heats fans all talk about how he could be important during the regular season... :rolleyes:

[SIRI1]

I'll love to see James, or Wade, set double screens for a Ray 3, but that shit is not going to happen:oldlol: It will when the bench is on the floor, or an occasional "out of a time out" play where they throw the defense off(Which they do with JJ btw, idk where you get that he doesnt run off screens:oldlol: ) This aint the Celtics, Miami is ISO ball and the shooters can roam around. If bron or Wade find you, and feel like passing, Ray will get his buckets.
Slow ass James Jones runs around and off screens like Ray Allen? You cant be serious :oldlol:

It would make zero sense for the Heat to not add this to their offense and I doubt Ray would have signed with them had Spo and Riley not shown him just how they planned on using him.

[Smoke117]

Throw a bunch of a morons, crunch that shit up, and throw it in the garbage and you well...you have this thread. I've seen a bunch of a clowns and morons post mostly. You can have it. There is no overtaking stupidity...it is too much of a powerful force. Eat shit and enjoy your the ridicule.

[LakersReign]

The truth really does hurt....doesn't it?:lol

[SilkkTheShocker]

The OP is scared :oldlol:

[Rnbizzle]

Clearly OP and the other haters are mad. Ray Allen is the GOAT 3 point shooter and Lebron is one of the best playermakers/passers in the game. Wade is also an elite playmaker. Bosh is a very capable passer. If Mike Miller can make the difference in a finals game when he's basically unable to walk, imagine what Ray Ray can done on a consistent basis.

[RRR3]

The truth really does hurt....doesn't it?:lol
Holy shit at your new titles :roll: :roll: :roll:

[stickfigure87]

allen is the perfect player to pair alongside james. this will be scary.

[FireDavidKahn]

he almost needed a wheelchair in the playoffs to get around. Very confusing why people are all of a sudden acting like he is the ray allen of old. Same can be said for the knicks getting jason kidd. If either team needs to rely on these guys for major minutes they're both in trouble.
No, this guy is God'sgift
http://boston.barstoolsports.com/files/2011/12/godsgift.jpg

[pegasus]

This is funny because in other thread when i pointed out the obvious, outside of Lebron and Wade, it's nearly impossible to improve Miami 3 point shooting during the last Finals, heats fans all talk about how he could be important during the regular season... :rolleyes:

That's true, but the signing of Ray increases their chances of shooting like that again. It was a once-in-a-blue-moon type shooting, like the Mavs displayed last year against the Lakers in the playoffs, and it shouldn't happen that often. But adding Ray onto their already long list of sharp shooters, will definetely help them one way or another.

I still believe that they would have lost to the inexperienced OKC despite making a ridiculous amount of threes, had it not been for the refs. If Stern is satisfied with Lebron winning one ring, and moves on to helping others win, like Durant, Howard, etc., then Miami will be in trouble, because Wade and Lebron are still redundant and not that dominant without the calls they get.

[comerb]

but he no longer is 'the best shooter in the game'... dont get me wrong, he will make the open 3 pointer, but in boston he made his living at running around and coming off picks. I just dont see him at his advanced age (nba wise) keeping up, especially in the playoffs.

He won't even need to run off picks in Miami. He can just stand in a spot like Chalmers, Miller, and Battier do and get open looks.

[RRR3]

That's true, but the signing of Ray increases their chances of shooting like that again. It was a once-in-a-blue-moon type shooting, like the Mavs displayed last year against the Lakers in the playoffs, and it shouldn't happen that often. But adding Ray onto their already long list of sharp shooters, will definetely help them one way or another.

I still believe that they would have lost to the inexperienced OKC while making a ridiculous amount of threes, had it not been for the refs. If Stern is satisfied with Lebron winning one ring, and moves on to helping others win, like Durant, Howard, etc., then Miami will be in trouble, because Wade and Lebron are still redundant and not that dominant without the calls they get.
You're never gonna stop crying over LeBron winning, are yoU? :roll: :roll: :roll:

[RRR3]

He won't even need to run off picks in Miami. He can just stand in a spot like Chalmers, Miller, and Battier do and get open looks.
Chalmers can penetrate though, Miller and Battier can't. And Chalmers moves more than maybe any other Heat player w/o the ball

[CelticBaller]

he isn't? :confusedshrug:

[comerb]

Ray should've gone elsewhere to play if he no longer wanted to play in Boston. In Miami now, he'll be the "hero" when they're winning, but the "goat" when they're losing. This is just yet another example of how pathetically two-faced Lebron fans are. They try to lie and say that Lakers fans were supposedly talking championship when we signed Sessions last year, and made a huge deal out of it when the Lakers were eliminated. Now cuz the Heat signed Ray, it's championship cruise Part 2? Sheer hypocrisy.:facepalm

Still asshurt as all hell about Miami's ring, aren't ya?

[comerb]

Chalmers can penetrate though, Miller and Battier can't. And Chalmers moves more than maybe any other Heat player w/o the ball

They both have a little pump fake into a mid-range 2. Doesn't really matter, the point is Ray won't have to work for open looks as hard as he did in Boston.

[pegasus]

You're never gonna stop crying over LeBron winning, are yoU? :roll: :roll: :roll:

:lol :lol at your attempt to change the meaning of your user name:roll: :roll:

"Randy Rhoads Rules":oldlol: :oldlol: It's "Triple Retard", just deal with it.:lol

[Mr. Incredible]

That's true, but the signing of Ray increases their chances of shooting like that again. It was a once-in-a-blue-moon type shooting, like the Mavs displayed last year against the Lakers in the playoffs, and it shouldn't happen that often. But adding Ray onto their already long list of sharp shooters, will definetely help them one way or another.

I still believe that they would have lost to the inexperienced OKC despite making a ridiculous amount of threes, had it not been for the refs. If Stern is satisfied with Lebron winning one ring, and moves on to helping others win, like Durant, Howard, etc., then Miami will be in trouble, because Wade and Lebron are still redundant and not that dominant without the calls they get.LeBron will always be more dominant than Rose, I can tell you that much.

[pegasus]

LeBron will always be more dominant than Rose, I can tell you that much.

Give Rose two years, and he will be as good as anyone in the league.

[PJR]

He shot 45% from 3 on 5 attempts per game. Still a pretty darn good player. Still the best floor spacer in the league.

[RRR3]

Give Rose two years, and he will be as good as anyone in the league.
He'll never be as good as LeBron. LeBron is one of the greatest players of all time, and it's a shame you're too busy hating to enjoy a once in a lifetime talent.

[pegasus]

He'll never be as good as LeBron. LeBron is one of the greatest players of all time, and it's a shame you're too busy hating to enjoy a once in a lifetime talent.

I truly enjoyed him in game 4 against the Pacers and game 6 against the Celtics. He played his game without relying on the refs, flopping, etc. He resorted back to all that in the finals, hence my lack of respect. Plus, if he were once in a lifetime talent, he wouldn't have been on the most stacked team in the league, and still trying to recruit more talent.

Heart is a big part of the equation, whether you like it or not.

[Pointguard]

I won't say he's God's gift, but he certainly is Lebron's gift from the 3 point line.