Steve Novak re-signing with Knicks for 4 years, $15 million

[LamarOdom]

Looool Knicks overpaying for Novak

15 for four years

[DuMa]

Ken Berger: Novak's deal with the Knicks is for $15 million over four years with no options. 1 minute ago

who wants a dose of Novakaine?

[christian1923]

Best 3 Point shooter in the league.

[TMT]

Best 3 Point shooter in the league.

Hardly in the top 10, imo. But get's alot of publicity because of being in NY. Was garbage the year prior for San Antonio.

[Rekindled]

id rather have shawne williams for the min tbh. shawne was bette rthan novak

[chazzy]

Hardly in the top 10, imo. But get's alot of publicity because of being in NY. Was garbage the year prior for San Antonio.
He shot 55% from 3 in the limited minutes/touches he got there :oldlol:

[niko]

Hardly in the top 10, imo. But get's alot of publicity because of being in NY. Was garbage the year prior for San Antonio.
That's just not true. There's a lot you can criticize but he shot 55% with a lot of attempts.

[LBJDW305]

Complete one dimensional player that can only hit completely wide open threes making 4 million a year....white to top it off.

[TMT]

He shot 55% from 3 in the limited minutes/touches he got there :oldlol:

I'll shoot myself in the foot if he does it again next season.

[LJJ]

Dude can only hit wide open spot up shots, how in the world can he be one of the best shooters?

He's good at one single aspect of shooting.

[niko]

I'll shoot myself in the foot if he does it again next season.
I don't know dude, he was money. Not streaky at all either.

[DuMa]

thought maybe he shouldnt have gotten 4 guaranteed years. but its the Knicks, they love spending the cash

[TMT]

I don't know dude, he was money. Not streaky at all either.

I just don't buy it. He had opportunities the year before on a primarily three point shooting team, and the guy just didn't have it. He had a great shooting year with the Knicks, but I don't think he'll repeat that to be honest.

[PJR]

Heat get Ray Allen 9.5 Million over 3, Knicks resign Novak for 14. :oldlol:

[niko]

I just don't buy it. He had opportunities the year before on a primarily three point shooting team, and the guy just didn't have it. He had a great shooting year with the Knicks, but I don't think he'll repeat that to be honest.
His movement off the ball is better in NY that it was in Houston or SA. He looked lost trying to get open there. His footwork too, he's set in transition.

I just think he figured some things out.

[LJJ]

His movement off the ball is so good, he hit four shots on 95 minutes of play during the playoffs!

[wang4three]

Hardly in the top 10, imo. But get's alot of publicity because of being in NY. Was garbage the year prior for San Antonio.
Cause shooting well with the Spurs = Top 10 shooting.

[DuMa]

Heat get Ray Allen 9.5 Million over 3, Knicks resign Novak for 14. :oldlol:

dream matchup for Ray Allen.

[PJR]

BTW who is Steve Novak? I don't remember him, did he play in the playoffs?

[LBJDW305]

His movement off the ball is so good, he hit four shots on 95 minutes of play during the playoffs!

With melo on his team and only one basketball...id say he was lucky to even take 4 shots

[niko]

His movement off the ball is so good, he hit four shots on 95 minutes of play during the playoffs!
He played poorly against Miami. So did James Harden. OMG, Harden sucks. Add him as a throw in for the Nets in the Magic trade.

[TMT]

His movement off the ball is better in NY that it was in Houston or SA. He looked lost trying to get open there. His footwork too, he's set in transition.

I just think he figured some things out.

I suppose New York has the better defensive assets behind him so he isn't as much as a liability as he was in Texas. Either way, it's good to see him find a good fit for himself in New York. All Knicks fans love them some Novakaine. :lol

[Dwade305]

Expected this from the Raptors, overpaying a one dimensional shooter. Guess he'll get dumped there in a couple of years anyway.

[christian1923]

I suppose New York has the better defensive assets behind him so he isn't as much as a liability as he was in Texas. Either way, it's good to see him find a good fit for himself in New York. All Knicks fans love them some Novakaine. :lol

Oh yes easily the fan favorite at the garden!:rockon: :rockon:

[DuMa]

Nate Taylor: Tyson Chandler likes the move the Knicks made to bring back Steve Novak: "He's the best shooter in the league. I love it.

[CelticBaller]

@ niko so Knicks won early bird rights for novak? damn I though it was only for lin :lol

[Rowe]

He played poorly against Miami. So did James Harden. OMG, Harden sucks. Add him as a throw in for the Nets in the Magic trade.
Respect your opinions bro.

But this time you really need to put the homer glasses down and see this for what it is as a terrible deal by the Knicks.

[MeLO MvP 15]

Love it. It's a fair deal when you consider shooters get paid (Kapono got big bucks a while ago, Korver got money) and the market this off-season (I prefer Novak over Landry). I'm just scared about JR, he's worth more than Landry and Novak but we can only offer $2.8 mil.

[PJR]

You can literally sign Jason Kapono off the street for the minimum to do what Novak does. This is such a bad deal for such a one dimensional catch and shoot player. :oldlol: :facepalm

[DaSeba5]

Wow he's being overpaid! What does he do outside of 3 point shooting? He's a terrific 3 point shooter, but how hard is that to find? Miami got Ray Allen for cheap. I'm not saying everyone can convince Allen to play for less money, but you get my point.

[niko]

Respect your opinions bro.

But this time you really need to put the homer glasses down and see this for what it is as a terrible deal by the Knicks.
Why? It doesn't hurt our flexibility (the last year he is an expirer and we all know expirer's can be flipped). It is not stopping any other deals. Is it too much for him? I said yes already. But should we lose him?

Losing Novak would not help us acquire more players, would not give us flexibility to do anything additional. It would only save MSG money. I could give a **** if MSG saves money, they should spend up the ass, most of the money we pay them in those ridiculous ticket prices is pure profit.

Spend, overpay everyone, i could not give a **** because we are over the cap. Just keep them. If we were under the cap, my opinion would 100% be different.

It's like the Nets. Same situation. Any salary they lose is lost, they cannot replace it.

[christian1923]

Wow he's being overpaid! What does he do outside of 3 point shooting? He's a terrific 3 point shooter, but how hard is that to find? Miami got Ray Allen for cheap. I'm not saying everyone can convince Allen to play for less money, but you get my point.

You act like money is a problem for the knicks. Who cares how much Dolan pays for novak, were going to be over the cap regardless.

[Sarcastic]

You guys comparing his salary to Ray Allen's salary are fcking idiots. Ray Allen took less money to ring chase with the Heat. His market rate was actually higher, but he turned down the money.

[DaSeba5]

You act like money is a problem for the knicks. Who cares how much Dolan pays for novak, were going to be over the cap regardless.

It's not, but that doesn't mean you have to overspend. I like Novak, but what does he do outside of 3 point shooting to warrant that kind of money?

I'm not trolling in anyway.

[PJR]

You guys comparing his salary to Ray Allen's salary are fcking idiots. Ray Allen took less money to ring chase with the Heat. His market rate was actually higher, but he turned down the money.

Regardless, it's still funny.

And it still doesn't change the fact that this deal is bad. 15 million guranteed over 4 from a guy who got cut by the Spurs. :oldlol:

[LJJ]

He played poorly against Miami. So did James Harden. OMG, Harden sucks. Add him as a throw in for the Nets in the Magic trade.

The thing is, the reason Novak didn't perform against Miami is the same reason why 4 NBA teams directly and 25 NBA teams indirectly decided Novak isn't worth a spot on their roster at even a minimum salary.

You can give Novak infinite chances in the playoffs, he'll never be more than an utter liability on a consistent basis.

[christian1923]

It's not, but that doesn't mean you have to overspend. I like Novak, but what does he do outside of 3 point shooting to warrant that kind of money?

I'm not trolling in anyway.

Nothing Great, but hes not a total liability. He'll get a couple boards and try on defense.

He didnt even get that much money, ISH thinks everybody in the league is Overpaid.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

Dont listen to these hating idiots, they watched 4 Knick games the whole season and think thats a statistically significant amount of data on which to judge a player.

Novak was instrumental in many of our wins, wed bring him out to make a lead insurmountable...and it worked. 3s pile up the points much quicker than 2s

[roffie]

lol yeah... life must be good for novak right about now..

[franchise#3]

He'll end up like Jason Kapono.

[gtfomyface]

he shot extremely well last year, absolutely useless in any other area of the game, but 15/4 doesn't seem too bad to me, not that overpaid, like batum getting a near max =/.

[DTreats]

He's the best 3 point shooter in the game, 15/4 isn't bad at all.

[Clutch]

Why? It doesn't hurt our flexibility (the last year he is an expirer and we all know expirer's can be flipped). It is not stopping any other deals. Is it too much for him? I said yes already. But should we lose him?

Losing Novak would not help us acquire more players, would not give us flexibility to do anything additional. It would only save MSG money. I could give a **** if MSG saves money, they should spend up the ass, most of the money we pay them in those ridiculous ticket prices is pure profit.

Spend, overpay everyone, i could not give a **** because we are over the cap. Just keep them. If we were under the cap, my opinion would 100% be different.

It's like the Nets. Same situation. Any salary they lose is lost, they cannot replace it.
That's why I don't have anything against re-signing him. He's probably worth less but we wouldn't have gained anything with letting him walk. Also $15 mil. over 4 years isn't such a bad deal. That's $3.75 mil per year on average.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Not a bad deal at all

[DTreats]

Knicks needed to keep him, no doubt about it. Best 3pt shooter in the league.

[bagelred]

that's more than i thought...i was hoping Knicks could do 5/$10 million

[Blue&Orange]

You can literally sign Jason Kapono off the street for the minimum to do what Novak does.
Hun?


:biggums:

[iguana]

:biggums:

[bagelred]

He's good at one single aspect of shooting.

exactly. he's only good at making every single open shot he ever takes. who needs that?

[bagelred]

Respect your opinions bro.

But this time you really need to put the homer glasses down and see this for what it is as a terrible deal by the Knicks.

how is this a terrible deal? check out the +/- when Novak was on he floor.

http://i46.tinypic.com/23tgi38.png

Novak was unbelievable in the regular season. I've never seen a shooter that good.

[DStebb716]

Steve Novak on this deal is the equivalent of the vet's min for the Knicks. They'll be over the tax line throughout the deal, so this deal does nothing to hurt them. Could've given him a max deal for all I care.

[DStebb716]

Why does it matter how much he got? They are way over the cap and will be throughout the deal. This is basically just the vet's min as far as the meaning of the deal.

All this means is that the Knicks are virtually married to whatever roster they assemble this offseason for a while which is good as far as chemistry goes.

[LJJ]

exactly. he's only good at making every single open shot he ever takes. who needs that?

Great skill to have, but not at any cost. At that is quite literally what Novak brings to the table, the ability to hit wide open shots while being a complete liability at every other facet of basketball.

[Rowe]

Great skill to have, but not at any cost. At that is quite literally what Novak brings to the table, the ability to hit wide open shots while being a complete liability at every other facet of basketball.

My whole problem with even bringing him back is that not only is he a 1 dimensional player, but its obvious he had an amazing season that you just can't duplicate. What happens when his shot isn't falling consistently? Its the same thing that brought down guys like Jason Kapono & more recently Eddie House who ended up out the league. You can't justify putting him in the game if he's on a cold streak and you can't justify leaving him on the floor if he misses his 3PT opportunities. Novak is far more of a liability than any of the other "3PT specialists" in the NBA because he has nothing else he can do on the floor on either end.

He's great for a 2nd unit, but with the way the Knicks are building I dont see Mike Woodson utilizing any sort of bench. Unlike D'Antoni, Mike Woodson has never cared for having a 2nd unit during his time in the NBA.

[Celtic_Pride]

I can understand this deal financially because Knicks are capped out for the next few years

But Novak is overrated on this board. His movement without the ball is questionable and I think he will get exposed once again in the playoffs when defenses doesn't cheat on him. He will be good in the regular season though!

[Rowe]

Why? It doesn't hurt our flexibility (the last year he is an expirer and we all know expirer's can be flipped). It is not stopping any other deals. Is it too much for him? I said yes already. But should we lose him?

Losing Novak would not help us acquire more players, would not give us flexibility to do anything additional. It would only save MSG money. I could give a **** if MSG saves money, they should spend up the ass, most of the money we pay them in those ridiculous ticket prices is pure profit.

Spend, overpay everyone, i could not give a **** because we are over the cap. Just keep them. If we were under the cap, my opinion would 100% be different.

It's like the Nets. Same situation. Any salary they lose is lost, they cannot replace it.
Thats fair enough.

I fully understand Dolan has no care of his checkbook unlike other owners in the league, but a lot of the reasons why I didn't want Novak back was I don't see how he fits moving forward in a non-D'Antoni system.

He had a great season shooting the ball and everybody needs a spot shooter, just in case. But I'd prefer adding a guy at an interchangeable position like PG/SG to fill that role instead of a player like Novak who has to substitute in for 1 of our 2 best players in Melo/Stat. I'd rather have some guys who can play both ends of the floor backing up our Forwards for when they do need to get some rest. Novak was great for D'Antoni and his deep bench, but under Woodson? I'm just not sure. Just dont want to see Novak sitting on the end of the bench making close to $4 Million and not playing.

[NumberSix]

Seems reasonable.

[Real Men Wear Green]

You guys are acting like he's getting 15 mil per year instead of 15 for 4.

[hawkfan]

Novak will play if Lin is healthy, because they do form a good duo on the offensive end.

But it wouldn't hurt if Novak would do something besides shoot outside shots. Get a hook shot. Rebound once in a while.

[Beatlezz]

15 years / $4 million is a great deal. :banana:

[Smoke117]

He's the best 3 point shooter in the game, 15/4 isn't bad at all.

Ray Allen is the best 3pt shooter in the game and they shot nearly the same percentage with Allen taking a much higher degree of difficulty of 3pt attempts. All this nonsense about Novak will be erased when Ray Allen gets the same looks that Novak did this upcoming season with the Heat.

[LT Ice Cream]

It wouldn't seem bad if that's what he was getting paid last season, but I GUARANTEE you guys that he's gonna get shut the fk down this season and everyones gonna start laughing about the 15/4.

[GOBB]

So you can a guy nearly $4mil per over the next 4yrs just to shoot 3's for 18-20mpg. And thats not the equivalent of being overpaid. Oh wait its not, let me further explain. Thats all he virtually does is shoot 3's. Thats his game. 3pt specialist. Guess someone else was bidding for Novak services and NYK pushed up the ante.

[bagelred]

So you can a guy nearly $4mil per over the next 4yrs just to shoot 3's for 18-20mpg. And thats not the equivalent of being overpaid. Oh wait its not, let me further explain. Thats all he virtually does is shoot 3's. Thats his game. 3pt specialist. Guess someone else was bidding for Novak services and NYK pushed up the ante.

It's hilarious how you guys don't realize how good Knicks played when Novak was on the floor. He's the BEST 3 point shooter in the entire league. Can't tell you how many games he got us back into with his shot.

How much did you think he was going to make? vets minimum?

[Droid101]

Hardly in the top 10, imo. But get's alot of publicity because of being in NY. Was garbage the year prior for San Antonio.
LOL mad Spurs fan.

He's the best, period. Best stroke, best and highest release. Don't be so mad.

[NUPE_1911]

This is a perfectly fine and reasonable contract.

The reality is that no matter the situation or issue people always find ways to criticize anything the Knick's do. Here is a run down of the ridiculous criticism Knick's have gotten over the years:

1. Knicks are terrible and have no assets to get Melo.

2. Knicks traded all their great assets for Melo and are terrible.

3. Knicks are an awful franchise and none of the big FA, including Amare, will sign with them.

4. Knicks are awful and signing Amare is laughable and Amare sucks.

5. Knicks are terrible and have no inside presence...

6. Tyson Chandler sucks and signing him is terrible. Knicks suck!

7. HAHA, Knicks will lose Novak and possibly Lin.

8. Knicks are horrible and are overpaying Novak and Lin!!


You see, haters gonna hate no matter what. $3.5 million a year for any NBA player is probably okay if that player excels at anything.

[phoenix_bladen]

like others said it doesn't matter since the knicks are over teh cap anyways they won't be able to replace him with any equivalent salary anyways... the only thing it does is hurt dolan's wallet because of the luxuary tax.

also he earns a little less than 4 million and is scheduled to come off 1 year after all the big names of the knicks come off the books he would be easy to trade off.

it's not like he was pay 4 million for 20 years!

in this case the knicks should MATCH landry fields contract as well since they won't be able to replace him with another player since they can only sign vet min after that! and fields contract is only 3 which expires EXACTLY the time when the 3 big do ...... so why not ?

[ClutchOver9000]

This is a perfectly fine and reasonable contract.

The reality is that no matter the situation or issue people always find ways to criticize anything the Knick's do. Here is a run down of the ridiculous criticism Knick's have gotten over the years:

1. Knicks are terrible and have no assets to get Melo.

2. Knicks traded all their great assets for Melo and are terrible.

3. Knicks are an awful franchise and none of the big FA, including Amare, will sign with them.

4. Knicks are awful and signing Amare is laughable and Amare sucks.

5. Knicks are terrible and have no inside presence...

6. Tyson Chandler sucks and signing him is terrible. Knicks suck!

7. HAHA, Knicks will lose Novak and possibly Lin.

8. Knicks are horrible and are overpaying Novak and Lin!!


You see, haters gonna hate no matter what. $3.5 million a year for any NBA player is probably okay if that player excels at anything.

:applause:

[It's A VC3!!!]

Pretty good on the Knicks part especially since the chemistry is maintained and they don't have to find another 3 point specialist. He built a good relationship with fans too.

[GOBB]

It's hilarious how you guys don't realize how good Knicks played when Novak was on the floor. He's the BEST 3 point shooter in the entire league. Can't tell you how many games he got us back into with his shot.

How much did you think he was going to make? vets minimum?

How does that show he isnt overpaid? Oh it doesnt. Someone I think Rowe made an excellant point. Novak duplicating the season he had last year will be tough. Highly unlikely. You can type "BEST" in caps all you want. He was the BEST last season. He isnt the BEST 3pt shooter in the NBA.

Novak prior to last season played like nothing more than a vets minimum played outside of that 1 season he was productive.

4yr $8mil is the most he's realistically worth. He has no upside, potential to do anything more than what he did last season. Which was shoot the 3 ball. And you're hoping the next 4yrs he is more productive vs unproductive as he's been for most of his career. Teams overpay, as is the case here. :confusedshrug:

Sixers overpaid Lavoy Allen with a 3yr $9mil deal. He didnt play like a $3mil player. But I understand they did so for potential/upside to be better and play up to the contract. It is what it is.

[bagelred]

Steve Novak $3,750,000
Ersan Ilyasova $9,000,000* (reported)
Stephen Curry $3,958,742 (rookie scale)
Ray Allen $3,000,000 (ring chasing)
Mike Miller $5,800,000
Brandon Rush $4,089,000** Qualifying Offer
Willie Green ???
Jordan Farmar $4,250,000
Daniel Green ??? restricted
Kyle Korver $5,000,000
Ben Gordon $12,400,000
Jerryd Bayless ???
Chris Duhon $3,680,000
Richard Jefferson $10,164,000
Matt Bonner $3,630,000
Gary Neal $854,389 (rookie scale)
JJ Redick $6,000,000
Klay Thompson $2,286,000 (rookie scale)
Manu Ginobli $14,107,492
James Jones $3,350,000

There, that's the Top 20 qualifying 3 point shooters. Novak is a bargain. And he's at the top of the list.

"Duh, but he's one dimensional". I know, every single other player on that list is so amazingly well rounded.

I thought maybe Knicks could get him cheaper, but it wasn't going to be much less than what he got.

[GOBB]

$4mil per playing 19mpg is a bargain. :roll: NYK fans dont know the meaning of overpaid. Its become so normal for that franchise. Carry on.

Sidenote: You laughed and clowned Toronto for the deal they gave Landry Fields. But Novak is a bargain. Mmmmkay

[PJR]

Knicks fan will attempt to rationalize any and every signing, I swear.

This is a bad deal. Period.

Jason Kapono had a season in Miami where he hit more than half of his 3s. Won three point contests, the whole nine. Everyone said he was the 'best shooter in the world', and we all know how that turned out when people started expecting steady production from him. Toronto signed him a to 4 year 24 MILLION dollar deal, and he went into the absolute tank.

Shooters that can't shoot and catch on the move, create a shot off the dribble and bring nothing else to the table (2.0 rbs, 0.2 asts, 0.2 blks and 0.2 stls, 72 free throw attempts in 7 seasons ) are vet min guys/Bi-annual exception guys. PERIOD. And that's exactly what Steve Novak is.



He's not the "best shooter in the league" STFU. :oldlol: He's not even in Kyle Korver's league. Korver can run thru screens and shoot immediately on the catch with a hand in his face from any angle. Novak cannot sniff that ability.

Bad deal, for a very one dimesional player. Bet you he never duplicates the season he had last year. He's screams of one hit wonder ala Jason Kapono.

[rawimpact]

Best 3 Point shooter in the league.

:roll:

For someone who does nothing but stick around the perimeter hes barely top 20.

[TheBigVeto]

Best 3 Point shooter in the league.

This.
Good signing by the Knicks.

[wally_world]

That kinda money is okay, but 4 years is pretty long. Shooters are all around the league as well, so it was not like he's some rare gem.

[bagelred]

:roll:

For someone who does nothing but stick around the perimeter hes barely top 20.

:biggums:

[ZenMaster]

Knicks fan will attempt to rationalize any and every signing, I swear.

This is a bad deal. Period.

Jason Kapono had a season in Miami where he hit more than half of his 3s. Won three point contests, the whole nine. Everyone said he was the 'best shooter in the world', and we all know how that turned out when people started expecting steady production from him. Toronto signed him a to 4 year 24 MILLION dollar deal, and he went into the absolute tank.

Shooters that can't shoot and catch on the move, create a shot off the dribble and bring nothing else to the table (2.0 rbs, 0.2 asts, 0.2 blks and 0.2 stls, 72 free throw attempts in 7 seasons ) are vet min guys/Bi-annual exception guys. PERIOD. And that's exactly what Steve Novak is.



He's not the "best shooter in the league" STFU. :oldlol: He's not even in Kyle Korver's league. Korver can run thru screens and shoot immediately on the catch with a hand in his face from any angle. Novak cannot sniff that ability.

Bad deal, for a very one dimesional player. Bet you he never duplicates the season he had last year. He's screams of one hit wonder ala Jason Kapono.

Novak can definitely shoot it under pressure, look at this guy.

He's the best offensive player in the league to have in the corner or slot on a pick'n roll which the knicks run a lot of.

[brantonli]

Hardly in the top 10, imo. But get's alot of publicity because of being in NY. Was garbage the year prior for San Antonio.

I disagree, as a spot up shooter (with somebody feeding him of course) he's one of the best in the league. When he came in as a rookie at training camp, McGrady already said Novak was the best shooter he had ever seen. I'd imagine Novak's spacing, off the ball movements have improved over the years so that his shot can actually be used.

At the same time, Kapono was thought to be the best shooter in the league and then completely fell off the map :lol

[G-train]

I don't care about the contract, we know the knicks just pay anything.
I do want to point out this guy was useless in the playoffs, and has been a bum most of his career.
However there was a game against Boston where he had 8 treys I believe, and if he can give them an enormous game or 2 in a playoff series he is almost worth that per season.
Probably would have tried to squeeze down to 3 years but meh it NY, they have a money tree.

[bluechox2]

we will trade these guys at traded deadline for another star :lol

[ihoopallday]

Novak was one of my favorite players to watch last year. This is probably the highest paying contract he'll ever get. Why hate on a guy who was cut by numerous teams and never gave up?

[knickswin]

great signing.

he is EASILY the best shooter in the league. sorry, it's not even close.

if knicks can sort out their offense (and if pigs can learn how to fly ...) then he will be deadly

[ClutchOver9000]

great signing.

he is the best 3 pt shooter in the league. sorry, it's not even close.

if knicks can sort out their offense (and if pigs can learn how to fly ...) then he will be deadly

fixed. :cheers:

[bluechox2]

novak started to shoot off screens at the end of the season...hes improving

[knickswin]

fixed. :cheers:

i can't think of anyone who gives him competition.

maybe, like, drazen petrovic

[knickswin]

That kinda money is okay, but 4 years is pretty long. Shooters are all around the league as well, so it was not like he's some rare gem.

he's head and shoulders above all other shooters though. not as a player because he's not that mobile, but as a shooter he is in a class by himself.

[ClutchOver9000]

i can't think of anyone who gives him competition.

maybe, like, drazen petrovic

bold statement

but yea Novak is awesome

[bluechox2]

guess what, we wont have to see davis or bibby dribbling next season :party:

[knickswin]

bold statement

but yea Novak is awesome

i think novak is a better shooter than drazen petrovic. not by that much, but i think he is. drazen was obviously a much better player.

[bluechox2]

Zach Lowe: NYK after today's deals, plus assuming Lin match, will have about $82M committed to 7 players--in 2015. Twitter

[jbot]

i like how he's found a home in NY, but i just don't think he's worth the money or the length of the contract. he's a fantastic shooter, no doubt, but i'd like to see him do more than catch and shoot.

[LamarOdom]

Alright I understand now why they did it make sense, but as Niko said if they were under the cap this would've been a very stupid signing, ah well now Chandler gotta work extra hard on D when Novakine is on tha floor.

[jbryan1984]

Overpaid imo. I would have offered 2 years, 5 or 6 million. I loved him last year but that is literally all he can do, shoot. JR Smith shoots also but he is not just a shooter, he is a scorer.

[LamarOdom]

Overpaid imo. I would have offered 2 years, 5 or 6 million. I loved him last year but that is literally all he can do, shoot. JR Smith shoots also but he is not just a shooter, he is a scorer.

Not too bad of a defender (JR)

[coin24]

Seeing as it doesn't effect there cap etc, and Dolan is happy to pay, what's the problem??

The fans at MSG love novakaine! I couldn't believe how excited they got when he gets the ball:oldlol:

[bagelred]

The two signature Novak games:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIw1o04InPA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWSejxxNldY


And the game with the big shot to tie the game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY1X8EAHX1w

[sportsfan76]

Novak needs to expand his game like kyle korver in order to stay in the NBA. Because when the 3 stops falling he will become USELESS. Korver was the same type of player but Cheeks helpes him expand his game and now he defends, rebounds, can be the wingman on the break, post up and score down low, and take other shots besides three-pointers


It's up to the Knicks coach to help Novak develop more as a player

[Draz]

Honestly he didn't do shit in the post season.

[bluechox2]

Honestly he didn't do shit in the post season.
davis was running on one leg, amare had a date with a fire exstinguisher, and melo was by himself easily to be double teamed and left stationary in iso mode.

hard to set novak up when there is no ball movement. hard to get ball moving your star is constantly doubled and has to kick it back out to someone who cant create.

[sportsfan76]

davis was running on one leg, amare had a date with a fire exstinguisher, and melo was by himself easily to be double teamed and left stationary in iso mode.

hard to set novak up when there is no ball movement. hard to get ball moving your star is constantly doubled and has to kick it back out to someone who cant create.


Whatever, he still missed WIDE OPEN SHOTS

[knickballer]

Honestly he didn't do shit in the post season.

like anyone on the knicks did :rolleyes:


When you have Amare, Melo and Chandler nearing the max I think offering Novak $4mil/yr is no big deal.

[sportsfan76]

like anyone on the knicks did :rolleyes:


When you have Amare, Melo and Chandler nearing the max I think offering Novak $4mil/yr is no big deal.


I believe it's $3.75 million dollars per year

[bluechox2]

he can shoot, and if we can get a pg to stay healthy in the playoffs, we will be good

[Y2Gezee]

Novak was going to command more than the minimum from somewhere. I honestly thought he'd get 4 mil somewhere. But, the guy has consistently been hitting 3s at a consistent rate. When you have an inconsistent 3pt shooting team and trying to win now, you don't let him go because you can't get him for 2 mil.

I mean the guy has value. People talk about his production in the playoffs, but the team wouldn't leave him open and that is value in itself....but with some of the other components struggling it didn't mean much.

[Shepseskaf]

This signing is an obvious mistake for so limited a player. Its ridiculous to pay too much money, then expect Novak to "expand his game".

Ain't gonna happen in my book, and he'll continue to be a huge defensive liability needing wide open looks to score.

Good luck with that NY.

[Clutch]

This signing is an obvious mistake for so limited a player. Its ridiculous to pay too much money, then expect Novak to "expand his game".

Ain't gonna happen in my book, and he'll continue to be a huge defensive liability needing wide open looks to score.

Good luck with that NY.
But we wouldn't have gained any room if we didn't sign him. This move doesn't harm the Knicks,it only harms Dolan's bank account.

[Shepseskaf]

But we wouldn't have gained any room if we didn't sign him. This move doesn't harm the Knicks,it only harms Dolan's bank account.
Understood, but regardless you want to see your team making sound moves and paying players at close to real value.

If Dolan wants to just give cash away, he can send me some.

[bagelred]

This signing is an obvious mistake for so limited a player. Its ridiculous to pay too much money, then expect Novak to "expand his game".

Ain't gonna happen in my book, and he'll continue to be a huge defensive liability needing wide open looks to score.

Good luck with that NY.

You guys are such hypocrites. If another team signed him for the same money, you would be applauding "stealing" him from the Knicks.

Steve Novak was AWESOME last year. I can't tell you how many games Novak came in and just cut a lead, or changed the game. He has an absolute elite skill. He might be the best pure shooter I've ever seen. If he's open for a shot, he just doesn't miss.

Well rounded? Yeah, let's look at all these "well rounded" players who get paid and can't do anything.......

And by the way, Novak's defense is actually pretty decent, and he also has a high basketball IQ on the floor. He's not the liability you guys make him out to be.