Marcus Camby has reached agreement on a deal with the Knicks

[Faptastrophe]

Free-agent center Marcus Camby has agreed to join the New York Knicks in a sign-and-trade deal with the Houston Rockets, league sources told Yahoo! Sports. Yahoo

The Rockets will receive guard Toney Douglas, forward Josh Harrellson, center Jerome Jordan, second-round picks in 2014 and '15 and cash used to pay Douglas' salary from the Knicks. Camby will get a three-year, $13.2 million contract that contains a partial guarantee in the third season, sources said. Yahoo

The Knicks also intend to retain point guard Jeremy Lin by matching the $29 million offer sheet the Rockets made to him. Yahoo

Read more: http://www.insidehoops.com/nba_rumors.shtml#ixzz20Arcxst2


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[illmaticone]

It's official!

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

Marcus Camby has reached agreement on a deal with the Knicks, league sources tell Y! Sports.

[bagelred]

:rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

[illmaticone]

The knicks bench is looking really solid, I'm liking their rotation.

[longtime lurker]

The east just got real!!

[Derka]

In before butthurt Heat bandwagoners.

[CelticBaller]

now we( the celtics) need to get Courtney Lee :D

[bagelred]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

Houston and New York agreed on a sign-and-trade deal sending Douglas, Harrelson, Jordan to Rockets for picks, sources said.

That's confusing.


Nooooooooooooooooo JORTS:cry:

[SevereUpInHere]

This is good, we were thin up front last year, especially when Chandler went down for a bit. Be nice having another big guy off the bench. Did he have much last year, don't know if i even remember seeing him play...

[chazzy]

Really solid pickup.

[DuMa]

Toney Douglas. you are now the starting point guard for the Houston Rockets!

[bagelred]

Wait....we give up Jorts, Jordan and Douglas AND TWO SECOND ROUNDERS? :facepalm

[rhythmic]

Sweet, Miami didn't get him. :banana:

[White Mamba]

Wait....we give up Jorts, Jordan and Douglas AND TWO SECOND ROUNDERS? :facepalm

great move u dump the garbage.

[illmaticone]

The Knicks rotation is looking really good right now. Let's how they mesh together next year.

[GOBB]

Wait....we give up Jorts, Jordan and Douglas AND TWO SECOND ROUNDERS? :facepalm

Reality kicked in. :roll:

[bagelred]

Reality kicked in. :roll:

Honestly, this is all garbage anyway. Douglas needed to go, Jordan is a doubtful NBA player, and Jorts needs some more experience.

But still.......I bet Dallas would have been easier to deal with on an SnT for Kidd than Morey for Camby.

Kidd's getting the mini-MLE now.

[longtime lurker]

Knicks need to figure out their shooting guard situation? If Jr Smith doesn't resign who could they realistically land?

[DuMa]

Adrian Wojnarowski: Camby has agreed to a three year, $13.2 million deal with the Knicks, source tells Y! The final year includes a partial guarantee

[PJR]

The Knicks have like 2 draft picks over the next 10 years. :oldlol:

[Blue&Orange]

I would have prefer a deal with the Mavs, Jorts probably is going to get no chances in a team with 10 PF's... and it's a shame, he was really good with the Knicks, really underrated.

[LJJ]

Hahaha, nice catch.




:rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

2 minutes later:


Wait....we give up Jorts, Jordan and Douglas AND TWO SECOND ROUNDERS? :facepalm

:applause:

[G-train]

In before butthurt Heat bandwagoners.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Suck on it knicks fans, have your 7 boards and 1 block from a prone 5000 year old man that you TRADED for.

:roll: :roll:

Sure we'd take him for the vet min. Not for this though.

:roll: :roll:

[It's A VC3!!!]

Why would the Knicks secure him till 41 years old. Still, he is a tremendous back-up center and i wish he would have ended up with the Nets. This guy averaged 8 recounts at 38! Amazing and he is still very serviceable. Knicks-Nets will amass huge ratings.

[EnoughSaid]

Nice get for the Knicks. Sucks that we weren't able to land him but hey, you can't get everything you want. :cry:

[Blue&Orange]

Knicks can buy second rounders, i don't why they didn't this year, teams were selling.

[chazzy]

Suck on it knicks fans, have your 7 boards and 1 block from a prone 5000 year old man that you TRADED for.

And yet, he would easily be the best center on the Heat

[NuggetsFan]

The Knicks have like 2 draft picks over the next 10 years. :oldlol:

Where are all their picks? Denver has '14 and right to swap in '16.

Good pickup for NY. Good move for Houston too, decent load for a guy who was leaving anyways. Don't even have to pay for Douglas either.

[bagelred]

Adrian Wojnarowski: Camby has agreed to a three year, $13.2 million deal with the Knicks, source tells Y! The final year includes a partial guarantee


WOW:eek: EVERYBODY is getting paid.

Knicks payroll in 2014 is going to OUTRAGEOUS. I'll do an analysis later to show you guys. Knicks might end up paying like $50 million in luxury tax or more that year.

[bagelred]

Knicks can buy second rounders, i don't why they didn't this year, teams were selling.

They weren't allowed to. They used their $3 million in another trade. Can only $3 million a year for trades.

[G-train]

And yet, he would easily be the best center on the Heat

False actually, as Bosh is basically the centre.

[NUPE_1911]

Wait....we give up Jorts, Jordan and Douglas AND TWO SECOND ROUNDERS? :facepalm

Who really cares about second rounders. Most second rounders end up being bad. Knicks need to win now and Camby makes them more competitive immediately. Also, Jordan and Douglas suck. I will miss Jorts though.

[ClutchOver9000]

no point in even watching the draft anymore w/ the way the Knicks throw away draft picks...lol.

But, this is a great depth signing, Camby brings top-notch shot-blocking, and provides another legit interior presence to spell Chandler when he needs it. Roster is already better.

[SevereUpInHere]

Anyone know where this leaves us with salary and how many roster spots we need to fill. Us paying Douglas, does that mean we pay him and he counts to Houston's cap, yeah?

Bagel?

[PJR]

Houston adding more ammo for a Dwight trade?

[Nash]

What the hell did New York just give up for a 38 year old reserve center?!! Is this for real? :eek:

[chazzy]

Houston adding more ammo for a Dwight trade?
Meh, 2nd round picks can be bought usually

[G-train]

Where are all their picks? Denver has '14 and right to swap in '16.

Good pickup for NY. Good move for Houston too, decent load for a guy who was leaving anyways. Don't even have to pay for Douglas either.

Did you read what they gave up to get an old backup centre? It's a terrible pickup. He would be a non-factor against Brooklyn and a liability against the heat.
He was a great pickup at a certain price. This is a terrible transaction for NY.

[Faptastrophe]

If reports are correct, Knicks keep Gadzuric and could do another s/t for ~$2 mil.

[LJJ]

Why would the Knicks secure him till 41 years old.

To meet the NBAs trade rules.

They can't give Camby 13/2 and have enough filler guys to make the salaries match in a sign and trade. But they can give Camby 13/3 realizing that last year is a token year where he'll probably not contribute.

[chazzy]

Did you read what they gave up to get an old backup centre? It's a terrible pickup. He would be a non-factor against Brooklyn and a liability against the heat.
He was a great pickup at a certain price. This is a terrible transaction for NY.
They gave up 2nd round picks and a couple filler players :confusedshrug: they really needed a backup for Chandler

[NuggetsFan]

Did you read what they gave up to get an old backup centre? It's a terrible pickup. He would be a non-factor against Brooklyn and a liability against the heat.
He was a great pickup at a certain price. This is a terrible transaction for NY.

Probably gave up too much. Camby is still a good piece tho. Good move by NY IMO.

[Blue&Orange]

They weren't allowed to. They used their $3 million in another trade. Can only $3 million a year for trades.
Good god, Knicks trade away everything, even exceptions.:oldlol:

[DuMa]

basically knicks and nuggets just swapped rosters from 3-4 years ago

[bagelred]

Anyone know where this leaves us with salary and how many roster spots we need to fill. Us paying Douglas, does that mean we pay him and he counts to Houston's cap, yeah?

Bagel?

Douglas was traded, so he counts against Houston's cap. Knicks are simply giving money to Houston to pay his salary.

Well we have no cap space. Kidd is getting the mini-MLE. So really its going to be alot of minimum salary guys.

Melo
Amare
Chandler
Lin (Knicks will match)
Shumpert
Novak (just signed)
Camby
Kidd
JR Smith (probably.....)
James White (minimum contract....)
Jeffries (probably.....)

That would be 11 spots taken so far, unless I missed someone. They'll add at least 2 more, maybe 3.

[chazzy]

3rd year non-guaranteed

[HEAT111]

[QUOTE=rhythmic

[chazzy]

They don't need him and glad he didn't come :banana:
dem sour grapes

[bagelred]

I just realized Rockets just traded for our WHOLE summer league team. :oldlol:

Allan Houston just called me. Gotta get my sneakers and shorts. Flying to Vegas baby!!!:rockon: Wish me luck. I'm the next Jeremy Lin.

[bagelred]

Marcus Camby ‏@MarcusCamby23

NY

He has a way with words.

[Derka]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Suck on it knicks fans, have your 7 boards and 1 block from a prone 5000 year old man that you TRADED for.

:roll: :roll:

Sure we'd take him for the vet min. Not for this though.

:roll: :roll:

Oh pleeease. Had Pat tossed him the mini-MLE, y'all would have nutted yourselves and begun overrating him to bejesus and back.

[CelticBaller]

What the hell did New York just give up for a 38 year old reserve center?!! Is this for real? :eek:
who used avg 9 rebounds and 2 blocks in less than 25 minutes

[hawkfan]

More bigs for the Rockets.
If Howard doesn't work out, it will be an interesting roster (to say the least).

[Blue&Orange]

Chris Broussard ‏@ChrisBroussard

Multiple sources confirm, Camby to Knicks talks gaining momentum, sign and trade with Dallas will send Fields to the Mavs.

[G-train]

Its true that the Heat didn't need him, but he would be handy at the right price.

[Nash]

I have to agree though, would be a good signing for Miami. For the Knicks its decentto, obviously not as important but decent. The least it would do is help them in potential foul troubles on Chandler.

[G-train]

Oh pleeease. Had Pat tossed him the mini-MLE, y'all would have nutted yourselves and begun overrating him to bejesus and back.

You don't know me nor have you read my posts concerning the matter.

He would have been a 10-12 mpg player for Miami, and handy if we needed a 5 min boost on the boards against a bigger lineup.

But I know exactly what Camby is and what he provides at this age, I have watched him all through college and the NBA.

[SevereUpInHere]

Douglas was traded, so he counts against Houston's cap. Knicks are simply giving money to Houston to pay his salary.

Well we have no cap space. Kidd is getting the mini-MLE. So really its going to be alot of minimum salary guys.

Melo
Amare
Chandler
Lin (Knicks will match)
Shumpert
Novak (just signed)
Camby
Kidd
JR Smith (probably.....)
James White (minimum contract....)
Jeffries (probably.....)

That would be 11 spots taken so far, unless I missed someone. They'll add at least 2 more, maybe 3.


Ok nice one, cheers. Does that put us at that $74m (?) hard cap that makes trades difficult down the road? Oh and the dude we drafted, he won't come over this year, is that right?

[Faptastrophe]

Chris Broussard ‏@ChrisBroussard

Multiple sources confirm, Camby to Knicks talks gaining momentum, sign and trade with Dallas will send Fields to the Mavs.
Why would a Knicks fan lie about this? :D

[hawkfan]

Knicks are now the third best team in the East behind the Heat and Celtics. And if the Celtics have injuries, they could be the second best team.

[G-train]

who used avg 9 rebounds and 2 blocks in less than 25 minutes

9 boards and 1.4 blocks in 23 mpg to be exact on average teams.
An average overall defender now, and a below average offensive player.
And turning 39 halfway thru this season.

[longtime lurker]

On a scale of 1 to 10 how butt hurt are Heat fans? Their team just won a championship and they stay hating on every move other teams make. They're not content with be championship favourties they want the path of least resistance too....

[SilkkTheShocker]

Camby is a loser. This guy doesnt give two shits about winning basketball games

[bagelred]

Probable Knicks depth chart right now.

Lin/Kidd
Shumpert/Smith
Melo/Novak/White
Amare/Jeffries
Chandler/Camby

[Nash]

On a scale of 1 to 10 how butt hurt are Heat fans? Their team just won a championship and they stay hating on every move other teams make. They're not content with be championship favourties they want the path of least resistance too....
Nobody hated on anything, whats wrong with you? Its a good pickup, Miami could have used him more and he could have started for Miami but the money just wasn't there.

And Miami just got Ray feckin' Allen, I think they'll be fine without Camby who to be frank would have less of a role in Miami's small ball game in the playoffs.

Good pickup Knicks, good pickup.

[G-train]

On a scale of 1 to 10 how butt hurt are Heat fans? Their team just won a championship and they stay hating on every move other teams make. They're not content with be championship favourties they want the path of least resistance too....

I'd say a 1.
I hoped he signed as a vet presence, but you cant match absurd contracts/trades like this. Have the guy.
I'm only commenting in this thread as a life long Camby fan.

[bagelred]

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[Knicks101]

Ugh, why Jorts? :(

[Droid101]

http://i46.tinypic.com/2d9bq0.png
Yep. He's been my 2nd favorite player for 10 years (2nd to Ron Artest) for just that reason. Dude just gets rebounds.

[christian1923]

Championship

[Nash]

Championship
Before you think about championship, start concentrating on being the best team in New York.

[PJR]

Championship

:roll:

[BlackVVaves]

Its true that the Heat didn't need him, but he would be handy at the right price.

So Camby is only a valuable asset if he goes to the Heat, otherwise he's "garbage player to a garbage team."

Nevermind the fact that what they heat lacked at the center position, rebounding and blocking, is what Camby has made a career off of.


Camby is a loser. This guy doesnt give two shits about winning basketball games

Don't be so mad.

[christian1923]

Before you think about championship, start concentrating on being the best team in New York.
Oh I was talking about the NY Giants.

Can camby still knock down a Jumper?

[TheCorporation]

Reality kicked in. :roll:

:lol

[pegasus]

http://i46.tinypic.com/2d9bq0.png
Damn, three of those players are Turkish.:eek:

[Replay32]

Great pick up for the knicks.

[Jax]

Knicks can't trade Fields...

[bluechox2]

Knicks can't trade Fields...
It's not July 11 yet and fields didn't sign anything so the knicks can look to trade fields if fields agree to it and also he can sign the offer with raps if he chooses

I bet raps called Knicks FO and begged to trade fields somewhere else before he gets a chance to sign offer sheet

[Kujo]

Is their a better defensive center rotation in the league now? I don't think so. Camby is still an elite rebounder & shot blocker at 38. I hope he can stay healthy.

Kudos to Marcus for not drinking the Miami Heat koolaid.

[NOHCP3]

:applause: to the Cambyman for getting that kind of money in his late 30s. Speaks to how good he is still. Good signing for NY. 2nd round is coming!

[G-train]

So Camby is only a valuable asset if he goes to the Heat, otherwise he's "garbage player to a garbage team."

Nevermind the fact that what they heat lacked at the center position, rebounding and blocking, is what Camby has made a career off of.



Don't be so mad.

Why are you quoting me then within the quote, quoting again "garbage player to a garbage team" - when I never said such a quote.

I talk in facts. Look up my posts. I wanted a 3/4, not a 5.
I was happy to take a 5 like Camby, for a small price.
The contract he has signed, and the assets traded for him make me laugh. Its poor management, but thats not surprising from this organisation.
On an elite team, Camby is a 10mpg player, and I would snap him up in a heartbeat for the vet min.
The heat don't need Camby. Havent they shown that? What's changed?
Brooklyn gets Howard? Camby can't stop him.
As I said, he would be a nice pinch hitter on a good team like Miami, and will probably do fine for the knicks. But I wouldn't have given up what they did, for a guy turning 39.
But I am bias, as Camby is a fave of mine and would have loved him at a good price for the Heat, to play minimally.

[bluechox2]

Why are you quoting me then within the quote, quoting again "garbage player to a garbage team" - when I never said such a quote.

I talk in facts. Look up my posts. I wanted a 3/4, not a 5.
I was happy to take a 5 like Camby, for a small price.
The contract he has signed, and the assets traded for him make me laugh. Its poor management, but thats not surprising from this organisation.
On an elite team, Camby is a 10mpg player, and I would snap him up in a heartbeat for the vet min.
The heat don't need Camby. Havent they shown that? What's changed?
Brooklyn gets Howard? Camby can't stop him.
As I said, he would be a nice pinch hitter on a good team like Miami, and will probably do fine for the knicks. But I wouldn't have given up what they did, for a guy turning 39.
But I am bias, as Camby is a fave of mine and would have loved him at a good price for the Heat, to play minimally.

camby over ray would have solidified one of your biggest liabilities, with the way teams are making moves, your front line will get crushed next season, though you still got lebron so it evens out

just saying camby would have made the heat harder to beat

[G-train]

camby over ray would have solidified one of your biggest liabilities, with the way teams are making moves, your front line will get crushed next season, though you still got lebron so it evens out

just saying camby would have made the heat harder to beat

Ok which team has made moves to crush the front line?
The Heat have beaten all the front lines.
They rely on elite defensive IQ and quickness to win games on the defensive end. That doesnt change.
Would Camby improve that? Only slightly. But it doesnt need improvement.

Noobs dont realise, the Heat employ defensive strategies where the 4 and 5 are required to rotate right out to 3 PT line and switch on to smaller players. Camby cannot do this.

Would I like to have him? yes at the veteran min as he would be good for 10-15 mpg to throw a different look out there, and strenghen rebounding if its becoming an issue in a particular game.

With Allen, now they have a dead eye shooter to play 20-25 mpg off bench and stand on perimeter eating open shots.
Importantly, he is an outstanding professional.
Allen is much more important than Camby.
Especially if Miller retires.

[spiegel]

I like this as a Rockets fan, 2 picks, Harrelson who has a ton of potential, Jordan and Douglas who when he gets hot can score in spades. Douglas will come to Houston motivated an ready to prove a point.

[G-train]

I like this as a Rockets fan, 2 picks, Harrelson who has a ton of potential, Jordan and Douglas who when he gets hot can score in spades. Douglas will come to Houston motivated an ready to prove a point.

Agreed, great for Houston.

[Patrick Chewing]

Knicks can buy second rounders, i don't why they didn't this year, teams were selling.

Money issues

[bluechox2]

we gave up 3 million in the camby deal, so i guess we cant buy anymore

[MiseryCityTexas]

Toney Douglas. you are now the starting point guard for the Houston Rockets!


Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rake2204]

Back to where young buck made his name.

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/0702/ny_g_camby_cr_300.jpg

[G-train]

Back to where young buck made his name.

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/0702/ny_g_camby_cr_300.jpg

I remember he got them tattoos on his arm, and everyone was like "who is this crazy guy with 3 tattoos on the one arm?"
rebel.

[Jasper]

camby "I'll never play for anyone else except Houston"

translation - I will never get a ring , but I'll be the oldest man to play pro ball :coleman:

[fatboy11]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We have to hope for the best.

He played some good ball in NY, but did play himself of minutes as well. We'll just have to hope he's motivated by a contract year and a new team.

And hope we sign someone else to be the starting PG.

[el gringos]

j lin for camby and motiejunas and its a great deal- why cant that trade and amare for kidd and Cunningham happen

Kidd/cunningham/(shumpert)
JR smith
Carmelo/novak
Motiejunas/j jeffries
Chandler/Camby

gerald green and krstic and foye and thats the best offseason ever

[The Ownage]

Miami fans are so salty :oldlol: you can't acquire EVERY player now can you? Selfish assholes! Only one being reasonable here is the poster Nash.

And although Camby is being slightly overpaid, it is a very good signing. The Knicks flow changes completely when Chandler goes out of the game and we negated a lot of the rebounding/defense because of it. Camby playing off the bench is going to help those two weaknesses.

[SevereUpInHere]

j lin for camby and motiejunas and its a great deal- why cant that trade and amare for kidd and Cunningham happen

Kidd/cunningham/(shumpert)
JR smith
Carmelo/novak
Motiejunas/j jeffries
Chandler/Camby

gerald green and krstic and foye and thats the best offseason ever


:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: This f*cking guy...

[WhySoInsecure?]

Can the Knicks still match the offer for fields and then flip him for Amir Johnson or Kleiza in a S&T? (or even better, get Bayless)

[bagelred]

Can the Knicks still match the offer for fields and then flip him for Amir Johnson or Kleiza in a S&T? (or even better, get Bayless)

Why would Toronto do that?

[WhySoInsecure?]

Why would Toronto do that?
For the same reason that we gave up the farm for Camby. To conserve their cap space and get rid of a bad contract. From what I understand they are around 6.5 mil under cap and could use that money on another FA.

[Crown&Coke]

Wait....we give up Jorts, Jordan and Douglas AND TWO SECOND ROUNDERS? :facepalm

thats what I first thought

i initially read, that Houston would not get all those assets for Camby. Guess twitter is wrong once in a blue moon, huh

[jbot]

seems like quite a bit to trade off but i've always liked camby and it's cool that's he's back in NY.

[NYK_Stan]

Free-agent center Marcus Camby has agreed to join the New York Knicks in a sign-and-trade deal with the Houston Rockets, league sources told Yahoo! Sports. Yahoo
Yes! :applause:


The Rockets will receive guard Toney Douglas
YEA BABY! :rockon:


second-round picks in 2014 and '15 and cash used to pay Douglas' salary
:banana:


... and forward Josh Harrellson
$#!%

[Y2Gezee]

seems like quite a bit to trade off but i've always liked camby and it's cool that's he's back in NY.

They gave up the last 3 guys off the bench and harrelson isnt a difference maker now
Or ever. Im sure they would prefer to keep him, but add jeffries and harrelson doesn't matter. The knicks guard position was one of the worst in basketball and their primary problem last year (until lin, and that only lasted for a sec), and douglass still couldn't really crack rotation with 2 different coaches. The 2nd round picks are all houston wanted, and really all that was traded. but in a win now situation, you trade second rounders.

[G-train]

The thrusting storm trooper has returned.